The World Economic Forum with Ezra Levant

leader's fee to the fire, to hold people accountable. He was able to get interviews with people like Gretta Thunberg more or less was able to pin them down and ask them questions. But Greta Thunberg, he asked her questions about her role and really pushing pain and suffering on so many people around the world with her climate policies. He was able to interview Fighter CEO Albert Borla about misleading the public about the efficacy of Fiser's COVID vaccine.

So we're going to talk to Ezra about what really goes on, what really happens behind the scenes, and how much control these people have over our lives. I hope you enjoyed this conversation with isra Levant, founder and owner of Rebel News, as our Thanks so much for coming on the show. You guys do really great work at Rebel News, so I appreciate what you do. And you're the founder and owner, so I appreciate you creating such a great news organization. Well thanks for saying that. I mean,

we we have a contrarian style. Our motto is telling the other side of the story, and on some things like the World Economic Forum, it's really rare to have skeptics because the media party, as I call it, the mainstream media or the regime media, they don't seem to have any skeptical questions for the World Economic Forum, but there's a lot of questions that should be asked to that way. What's really strange is that there's this alignment, at least in America. You know, it's not really just

Republican or Democrat. They're sort of we call the uniparty now because they share a lot of the similar viewpoints, especially when it comes to you know, sort of this global viewpoint of the world. And then also the media lines with them. So we're really in this place, to your point, where it's the citizens voice that isn't represented anymore in the public sphere. Yeah. Well, I mean, let me say this, there were hundreds of journalists at the

World Economic Form in Davos. In fact, they had beautiful pavilions CNN, CNBC, UH New York Times. They all were there in force and had pride of place. But understand they had to pay for that status. They were there as insiders. They were there as sponsors, so by definition they were not going to ask any accountability questions. They were not going to ask any skeptical questions. They were there more too, I don't know, to to synchronize their

narrative with the other oligarchs there. So it was. It was sort of ironic because Albert Borla, the CEO of Fiser, who we managed to bump into on the street and ask some prickly questions to, he had actually just come from another media interview. So if you were to ask Albert Bula, why don't you do any media, he'd say, you, Kenny, I do media all day long, and it's true, but

he would do regime media, softball media. He wasn't ready for unscripted, unvetted questions that came from peasant citizen journalists like us. Well, and I want to play a clip from that because we do have it. Let's play that real question, students stop transmission? How long did you know that without saying it publicly? Answer that question? I mean, we we now know that the vaccines didn't stop transmission,

but why did you keep it secret? You said it was a hundred percent effective, then nine percent, but we now know that the vaccines do not trans transmission? Why did you keep that secret? And for the footes at home, that's Ezra asking the Fiser CEO, Albert Borela, about the fact that they lied to us as there was no remorse. I mean he was baffled that it looked at you kind of like, how you know, how dare you even question me? There's been absolutely you know, no remorse, no

no course correction from Fiser at all on any of this. Yeah, myself and my colleague Abby Amini peppered him with twenty nine questions in a three minute span, and some of them, I admit, were a little bit rhetorical or a little snippy. I said, what do you think about on your yacht? That was one of my questions. That's obviously just a rhetorical question. But we had a lot of real questions that I think you should have answered. Like we asked about product liability, I mean the fact that a lot

of people are getting terrible side effects, including dying. UM. I asked about the efficacy of the of the acts. I mean there was a point in time they said it was a percent effective. Well, we know that's not true. UM. I asked him about the fact that Fightser once paid the largest fun in American history two point three billion dollars for deceptive marketing, And I asked him about that kind of misconduct here. Now, I'm not saying those are

easy questions. I think they're all legitimate questions. Given the public nature of Viser, it really has big farmer and big government merged during the pandemic. So I think he owes us questions as any other public figure would. But why didn't he just give me his corporate bladder, Like why didn't he even just read? Like, surely he has

something to say about those questions. But the fact that he chose not to say a single word, even his talking points that he would use with other journalists showed I think a contempt for citizens who weren't part of his approved jet set, and you know, part of me thought, well, why am I still asking him questions if he's not answering them. We we sort of walked with him through

the streets until he finally ducked into a hotel. And I think in the end it showed that we asked real questions that the regime media really hasn't asked him in two years. So it was it was Albert Borla on trial, but in a way it was also other media on trial. Like I said, he had just come from an official UH interview at Davos, but of course they never asked him questions like that. So I think Albert Borla has a lot of answering to do. Fiser

has a lot of answering to do. But the media, who gave him nothing but softballs for two years, they have a lot of answering to do. Also, well you know what they do. And of course, I mean they've made so much money off of this. I mean, their

company's profits triple. He was making something he makes, you know, tens of millions of dollars in salary, and he you know, a lot of people ended up getting the vaccine because they were told these things, you know, they were told about its efficacy, they were told that it was hunder percent effective. They were told these things that ended up not being true, and they're shielded from liability in so many of these instances. You know, they are here in America.

And so I appreciate you guys trying to hold his feet to the fire. You know, he deserves to beyond the receiving end of that after you know, essentially forcing this vaccine upon so many people, being dishonest about it, and then now we're saying that it's harming so many people. Remember the rationale for the vaccine mandates, and they were particularly punitive up here in Canada. They weren't quite as bad in the States, although a lot of public sector workers, military, police,

fire teachers had vaccine mandates. Airlines in Canada, private citizens were not even allowed on domestic flights if you weren't vaxed. So the second largest country in the world, Canada, you were not allowed to fly even within your own country as a citizen if you weren't vacced. So these vaccine passports, these vaccine mandates, many people losing their jobs, are being banned from public places. They were all premised on the idea that the vaccine stopped you from transmitting the disease.

As in, if you said, well, I'm willing to risk my own health by not having the vaccine, that's a libertarian choice, that's a personal choice. The answer by the state was always, well, you'll harm other people. You must take the vaccine to stop transmission. And that's why that was such an important question for me to ask Albert Brula because he knew that the vaccine didn't stop transmission. He didn't say that, and you know, for a year

because he loved these vaccine mandates. What better way to sell a product than to have it forced on people on pain of them losing their jobs. But he knew the entire premise was false, but he didn't care because he's got that because he's got that private chet and he's a salesman. He's not he's not even a medical doctor, by the way. He's a veterinarian, which is odd. But

he became extremely wealthy personally. Feiser became an incredibly profitable company based on the fact that no one asked him tough questions and how many people out there were forced to take the job to keep their jobs or lost their jobs because they stood on principle, this guy has a lot of answering to do that. I did not get it and made that very publicly known. And the only reason I had ever contemplated getting it, because I was never at risk, was because of that whole Oh

you want to protect the people you love. And then when I started seeing all these quote unquote breakthrough cases happening, I was sort of, you know, put two and two together and realized that it wasn't stopping the spread, you know, and then ultimately said, you know, I you too, you know, Joe Biden and all these people trying to force it on me. Take a quick commercial break more with Ezra Levant.

Did you watch I don't know if you saw the Project Veritas video recently with the fiser's director of research and development talking about how their thought process is potentially mutating the vire has. Let's play that. I want to get your thoughts, and then we'll move on to Greta Fightser ultimately is thinking about mutating COVID. Well, that is not at least say to the public, know that was only one building. You have a public have publish talk

about we're exploring like no, you know, the virus chose commutating. Yeah, well, one of the things we're exploring it is like why don't we just mutating art so we could work only development vaccines, right, So we have to do that and we're going to do that, though there's a risk, like as you could imagine, no one wants to be having a pharmer company dings. It could be like very controlled to make sure that those virus and you you take

it create something like itsells everywhere, something crazy. Just the way that the virus started moving on to be honest, like it would be no sense of because I was talked out of nowhere, like yeah, I charch director of Research and Development, Strategic Operations and the m R and Day Scientific Planner talking about a potential desire to mutate the virus. I mean, we're sort of in this weird realm now where there's just such a loss of faith

in government, in public health and all of it. And why can we trust them when you have people like him saying this when he thinks he's behind the scenes, he thinks he's in private. Yeah, I saw that it. I think it's the most stunning revelation that Project Veritas has done in years, and I deeply admire Project very Tasks and James O'Keeffe, and they certainly look like they've done their homework here. But I have to say, it's such an insane thing to say, such an such a

doctor evil like Bond villain thing to say that. Part of me is thinking, surely that guy was just was just talking like a fabulous Surely he was indulging in in some fiction. Because I, although I completely trust James O'Keefe and Project VeriTest, that is so insane, part of me thinks I just can't believe it. It's too crazy. I don't know. Maybe maybe I uh, I just can't even believe how insane that is. If that's true, we

are in deep trouble, pretty dark these days. Was just watching uh you know, the way that these people behave. And then also just from the fact that you know COVID is obviously COVID from gain of function having been released from Wuhan. Obviously you know they were working on bat coronavirus is it escapes, So it's sort of how this all originated to begin with. So you would think it's ill advised to continue trying to play god with

these things. Particularly if it's for profit. You know, you had also had time, You guys were able to find Greta Thunberg as well. Let's play this clip and then I want to talk to you about the exchange and what you learned from it afterwards. Kind of would you say you're a child actor? Are you a child actor or expert? How would you describe yourself? How can we never protest Saudi Arabia or Russia? You only protest Western energy? Why have you never criticized bloatom and Putin or OPEC? Yeah,

I've never done that. Never will you do so? Now? Will you condemn OPEC energy? Sorry? Why doesn't she, you know, condemn Saudi Arabia or Russia? Why is it always these the Western nations? Yeah? I mean, if you take progressives at face value, the reason they care about the way energy is made is because of their liberal values. They they're worried about environmental responsibility. They're worried that oil profits

will be used for violence, either war or terrorism. They say they care about workers, are they being well paid? And finally they say they care about human rights? Civil rights? How do you treat minorities? How do you treat women and gay people and indigenous people. So if those are your progressive values, environmental responsibility, peace, the treatment of workers, and civil liberties, you would naturally favor oil made in ethical jurisdictions like the United States and Canada and the

North Sea and places like that. You would favor ethical oil over conflict oil from places like Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Venezuela, Nigeria, etcetera. So, until we don't need oil anymore, and by the way, we're gonna need it for the foreseeable future. But until that happy day comes where we don't need oil anymore, you're gonna have to get it from somewhere. And they don't make oil in Switzerland or Belgium or the chocolate

making superpowers, you know. I mean, those are wonderful little countries. But I don't know what God was thinking when he gave out oil, But he gave it to all the world's bastards. Why does Greta only condemn energy in the West, in the free democracies? Why does she never not even rhetorically criticized conflict oil? And I asked her another question, Um, I mean, there are so many questions that we put

almost a hundred to her. I mean, really, how would what she say be any different of what Vladimir Putin would say? Actually asked that of another protester, like if if Vladimir Putin had his way, Greta would only criticize ethical oil and never criticize Russian oil, because that's really Putin's weapon, it's the oil weapon. That's how he can inform his invasion of Ukraine is oil and gas. So it just seems odd to me that Greta only criticizes our oil. And that's why I asked her, are you

an expert? Are you just a child actor? Let me say one more thing least, this is very important to know. Greta Tundberg looks like a little girl, but she's twenty. She's twenty years old now she I think she's maybe developmentally arrested or something, because she really is extremely short and she looks like a twelve year old. And I think it's been the source of her power. She looks like a an old Testament prophet, like a child prophet,

you know, condemning us and warning us. I really actually, in the course of our twenty minute interview with her, she giggled probably thirty times instead of answering. She gave sarcastic answers. I don't think she gave one serious answer. I came away from my time with Greta thinking she's either completely ignorant, which you might expect from a high school dropout. That was her whole thing, striking in high school. Don't go to school kids, let's go on a school strike,

or she's just a puppet for some other force. I asked her who her pr agency was. She didn't give me a straight answer. She said, I wish I had one. Well, we sort of know she does have one, So I in conclusion, I think that Greta Tunberg is sort of an empty vessel, like an actor who reads lines given to her by someone who wrote the script. She's twenty years old, so she's not a baby, but she's not

a scholar. She's not that well informed. She just reached her lines, and for that twenty minutes we were with her, she didn't have her lines handy exchange and the questions that were asked to her. And I got the same impression as you did in the sense of and what's sad, though, is that this is someone who is treated as a serious person. I mean this is someone who has access to world leaders. This is someone who is purported to

be an expert by the media. And when you watch the exchange with her, which is probably why she doesn't ever do any oppositional interviews, there was no substance there. She she knew nothing to your point, she was an empty vessel. But she's shaping world policy. It's like you know, and that's the thing. She's got to pick a lane. Uh. I mean, either she is an authoritative source of information and argument who must be listened to by the United Nations,

by presidents and even by royalty. Either she is that authoritative and we must hang on her every word, or she's just a young person, as she said to us with giggles, saying, oh ha, I don't take anything seriously, So you can't keep switching from one foot to the other, depending on if you want to be serious or not. Um And there was an amazing thing that happened. It

wasn't just rebel news reporters. We had three reporters on our team rotating asking her questions, but there were a couple of reporters from the regime media who were along too, and they had a few questions which I thought were very weak. One of them was, Greta, how's your trip to Dabos going so far? Okay, that's not exactly an accountability question. Another one said, hey, are you going to

have any protests while year? Okay, that's sort of interesting, but you've got Greta Tunberg and and that's what you're gonna ask her. Like it was so weak, And after a while, these other regime journalists, they were irritated by our accountability style questions. They started answering our questions for Greta. One of my colleagues said, Greta, who are your advisors?

Who do you take your guidance from? That's a really good question, by the way, because she's only a twenty year old young woman, and she didn't have a good answer, so other journalists piped up and answered for her. There was a moment when other journalists told us to shut up, called us stupid or idiots, and by the way, maybe we are stupid and maybe we are idiots, but isn't that for Gretta to say? And by the way, she didn't say that. She thanked us at the end of

the interview, which was sort of courteous of her. But one of the most interesting things, and this relates to my point about Albert Burlap. No one ever asked that Albert Burla, the CEO of fies her a tough question in his life, and then we hit him with twenty nine and them and it had him. Really, I don't think Greta has ever had a adversarial interview in her life. She didn't really know what to do. But the other media, uh, they actually did know what to do. Their job was

run interference for Greta. They were not there as journalists. They were there as magnifiers and propagators and um narrative boosters for Greta. It was really revealing. Again, I learned as much about the media as I learned about Greta Economic Forum and what you're sort of underscoring and making these points is that they were part of this protected class.

And it doesn't that kind of get to the heart of the World Economic Forum, that it's this group of elites who believe that they know better than us, They believe they know better than the average citizen, and they want to be the ones dictating and controlling how we live our lives. Oh yeah, I mean I heard about the private jets, and so we actually went to a private jet airstrip UH called Alterheim, which is nothing but

private jets. No commercial jets fly there. Every ten minutes another private plane landed with a W E F delegate and then they went into a quickly went into a helicopter to take them the last UH leg of the journey, and then they got into a black suv with tinted windows to drive them where they were going. So private jet to alter him, helicopter to Davos, and then black tinted window suv. There were a few green vehicles. There were a few Tesla's there that Uber had as sort

of a promotional stick. Hey we're Uber, check out Uber Green. But it was just a fun thing, like a like a promotion. Every v I p at Davos was getting around in big black tinted window Mega SUVs and there were I heard there were one thousand private jet flights into alter Had. I believe it. When I was there, it was literally every ten minutes another jet came um.

And the reason I tell you this is not that I'm anti jet or that I'm anti prosperity, or that I don't think people should be able to get rich. I think all those things are fine, but these people are the ones who say to you, not only should you not fly, you should drive less. You should heat your house less. You shouldn't eat meat because it's too carbon intensive, you should eat synthetic meat, or even bugs. And as that famous W. E. F. Slogan goes, you'll

own nothing and you'll be happy. So how can you be a private jet center and then say, oh, you little people, you peasants, should eat bugs. By the way, one of our reporters bumped into John Kerry, the former Secretary State who is now Biden's Climate envoy, him and asked him how he could fly there on a private jet, and John Kerry looked him right in the eye and said, I fly exclusively commercial. Well, we know that's not true.

I mean, unless he just decided that that morning. We know that John Kerry has flown probably on more private jets than any and other than I supposed to President of the United States. But obviously he's sensitive to that charge of hypocrisy. You should never take advice from people who are doing the exact opposite. And this was a meeting of billionaires and oligarchs. Alex Soros was there um. Bill Gates was not there this time, but Larry Fink

of Black Rock was there. These are some of the richest, most powerful people in the world telling you to have a poorer life. They want you to have fuel poverty, energy poverty, food poverty. There's something really creepy about them. Look, anyone can have their own opinions, but these folks are trying to actually change world policy. They're actually trying to change the law under which people around the world lived. They have this concept called global citizenship. Well that sounds

sort of cool, but what does it mean. I know what being an American citizen or a Canadian citizen means. You have certain rights, you have the constitution protect you, you can kick out your leaders if every four years. There's a lot of things that being a citizen of

America or Canada or the United Kingdom give you. But the World Economic Form wants to replace that with what they call global citizenship, which means run by a group of technocratic you know, experts, them who you can never get rid of, never escape, never switched to another country because they run the world. And you don't have rights. You don't You are just a subject. You are a consumer. And that's their future, that's what they want from you.

You know, if people listening like, oh, why should I care? You know, why should I? But you really just laid out why they should care and why this is all important and why we're having this discussion and why you guys were there covering it as well. You know, there are so many panels that they did, in conversations that were had. If you had to pick one, what disturbed you the post about what you saw or what you heard while being there. Well, I saw a lot of

high value politicians. I saw Mark Kearney, the former Bank of England governor, also former Bank of Canada governor, who's who people say we will likely run for prime minister of my country Canada. I saw Brian Camp the Republican governor. I saw a lot of powerful people. And then I saw Albert Boulla Fiser and John Kerry. And here's what I thought. Their meeting in secret. They have all these secret meeting rooms UM called bilateral meeting rooms where you

can book them. It's like a it's like a cabana on a beach or something, um and all these secret meetings going on. Why does that bother me? Because If they were meeting in Washington, d C. They would register with the Lobbyist Registry. People who come and go from the White House have to log in. All of that information is disclosable. Donations are recorded by uh, you know, the FEC. There are all sorts of checks and balances

on how government is done in a democracy. There's an opposition party, there's a media, there is the congressional record. There are all sorts of foreign uh you know, if you're a foreign agent, you have to register. None of that happens at the World Economic Form. It is a free for all with none of the accountability mechanisms, none of the checks and balances that exist in national legislatures. Your congress are parliament. So it's like what happens in

Davos stays in Davos. They can cut any deal, have any meeting, take any cash, and like I say, it's a pay to play place, um to get to get in on the inside. Depending on what position or status could be a quarter million dollars, four thousand dollars could be more than a million dollars to pay Klaus Schwab's private company to get in. And that's hears me when I see government officials at this sort of anything goes

we'll keep no records. Uh. I won't quite call him a secret society, but most of their work is done in secret. Quick break more with the founder and owner of Rebel News. People are waking up around the world and just realizing that so many of our leaders don't care about us and in factor or trying to make our lives more difficult, as you mentioned, make us poorer. We we don't own anything, trying to make the quality of life less than what our parents had. So I

do think that people are waking up. I hope they continue to wake up as well. Yeah, well, I hope So. I mean I enjoyed being there to do our contrarian thing. I mean, our motto at Rebel News is telling the other side of the story, and these days that's not even uh, that's not even universally accepted. I mean a generation ago, the idea of having more than one one of view was taken for granted, not just in journalism, but frankly in medicine. You know, can I get a

second opinion? Now? If you are not part of the official narrative, they'll try and cancel you. Even doctors I saw the other day in California they were trying to pass the rule that a doctor could not have a second opinion on matters like vaccines. And I'm not obsessed with vaccines. I'm just saying it was incredible how they

abridged our civil liberties to sell those jobs. And I'm worried that journalism has been so totally co opted and the censorship of you know, all these so called fact checkers, they're not fact checking powerful people. They're fact checking critics of powerful people. They're holding the opposition to account. I never see Reuters fact check or AP fact check going after the government. They're always going after critics of the government,

and that's not how it should be. I really feel like you're seeing a merger of big business media, big tech, and I think for ordinary people it means higher prices for things, more regulations, more social engineering like eat your bugs, and less free speech and diversity of opinion. That's why I'm worried about all right, you know, I I share your concerns, which is why I believe the work you're

doing at Rebel News is so important. So, as a relevant founder and owner of Rebel News, thank you so much. For taking the time and thank you for the work you do. I really do believe it's really important to actually hold or leaders accountable. A novel concept, right so, but people are doing it in the media and you are so thank you for that. Well my pleasure. And if folks want to see all our work from Davos, we we've put a special compilation page. We did about

forty little videos and news stories. It's just at w e F Reports dot com if you're interested. I thought it was a very interesting week. I had never been before. I'm sure I'm going to go back next year if I'm allowed into the country. So thanks for having me. I appreciate the opportunity that was Ezra Lavront, the founder and owner of Rebel News. I've been following their work for a while. We've had a couple of the Rebel

News guys on the podcast. They do really great work, and I appreciate what they do because they are actually interested in holding our leader's feet to the fire and holding them accountable, which is what the media doesn't really do anymore these days. I want to thank you guys at home for listening. I want to thank John Casting and my producer for putting the show together, leave us

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