The Woke Military with Rob O'Neill

whatever the theory is. UM. But I do think it's important actually for those of us in uniform to be open minded and be widely read. And the United States Military Academy is a university, uh, and it is important that we train and we understand UH. And I want to understand white rage. And I'm white and I want to understand it. So what is it that caused thousands of people to assault this building and try to overturn the constitution of the United States of America? What caused that?

I want to find that out. I want to main in an open mind here, and I do want to analyze it. It's important that we understand that because our soul is sailors, airmond marines, and guardians. They come from the American people. So it is important that the leaders now and in the future do understand it. I've read Miles Tongue, I've read I've read call Marks, I've read Lenin.

That doesn't make me a communist, So what is wrong with understanding having some situational understanding about the country for which we are here to defend. Although given some of the things he has said in the past, you might want to retract that statement about not subscribing the Communism and the fact that he was trying to, you know, work with the Chinese as uh President Trump was leaving office during the transition might raise some eyebrows as well.

But you know, I digress. But what he was doing there was he was defending critical race theory because it's being taught in the United States Military Service academies. They've introduced some sort of form of critical race theory or anti racism training. In addition to that, the U. S. Army is putting its soldiers through training on gender pronouns and coaching officers on when to offer soldiers gender transition surgery. This has all been reported. So maybe that's why we're

having recruiting challenge. Maybe that's why you think, and what does that recruiting challenge mean for the country. More broadly, what does that mean for fighting future wars? What kind of people are recruiting, what kind of people are choosing to sign up in today's military. So I wanted to do a segment about all of this, and I thought to myself, who better than to have the guy who killed Osama bin Laden, Rob O'Neil, Seal Team six, American badass,

American hero. So we're gonna talk to him about his take all of this, also get into Ukraine a little bit as well, and really ask him the question, would you join today's military in this environment? Would you join it? So we're gonna talk to him about that, and also just some of the missions that he's been on as well. We're gonna talk to him about that morning a little after midnight when he took out a Sama bin Laden. We're gonna talk about his rescue of Captain Richard Phillips

from Somali pirates in two thousand nine. We're gonna talk about being on the team leading the team that rescued Marcus Latrelle. So we're gonna talk to him a little bit about that as well. So it's gonna be a really interesting conference. I've met Rob too, He's an awesome guy, So stay tuned for Rob O'Neill. So I've been wanting to do a segment about the state of the military, and I thought to myself, who better than the guy who killed a Sama. So Rob O'Neill, thanks for the

notorious badass American hero. Thanks for coming on the show. Thank you so much for happy. I'm glad we finally got to make this happen. Great to be here. I know I've been wanting to get you off and so I'm so glad to happen. We were we were exchanging Twitter messages I think back and forth, and we're gonna We're gonna make this happen because I think the two of us together we can make a lot of sense

of nonsensical issues. So already, and Rob, if you've been paying attention, which I know you have, there's a lot of nonsense, right It's all nonsense. That's what keeps us both in business. Nonsense is just it's it's in no short terms right now, it's just it's madness. But we'll try to make some sense of it and bring some

common sense. Yeah, well, we'll do our best. Uh, you know, but before we get into kind of the state of the military and how we got here, I I wanted to talk to you about that morning, a little after midnight on May second, two thousand eleven, when you took out a SAMBI laden. It was an honor for me to be invited to be part of a team. It was the right place at the right time. I was a Seal Team six and I'm a big believer in

the butterfly effect that I got there on accident. I made it to se in a long time before that to join the Navy because I tried to join the Marine Corps and the Marine recruiter was not in the office, and had he not been to lunch, I would not have joined the Navy. And you know, if you fast forward, I would not have done the mission. I would have my daughters. Um. But I got to a spot joining the Navy, a guy from Montana who didn't know how

to swim. But um, I had a seal instructor tell me that I know you've read the books, I know you've seen the movies. Regardless of what you've been told, this course is not impossible. People graduate so I will never ask you to do anything impossible, but I will make you do something very hard followed by something very hard. Fallowed was something very hard, day after day after day for for ninth straight months. And that sounds like a lot to get from now to nine months or now.

But don't think about it that way. That's not how you achieve a long term goal. Do it like this. Wake up in the morning on time, make your bed the right way, and brush your teeth. You just started the day with three victories. Make it to the foam workout on time. As I'm beating you, don't think about the pain concentrated your next goal of life, which is making it to breakfast after breakfast. Your net to go in life is making it to lunch after lunch, make

it to dinner after dinner. Do everything you need to do to get back inside that perfectly made been. And because you took the time in the morning to make your bed the right way, regardless of how bad today was and it will be bad, tomorrow is a clean slate. Tomorrow is a fresh start. And when you feel like quitting, which you will do, not quit right now. That's not how you achieve a want to go quick tomorrow. If you can keep quitting tomorrow, you can do anything in life.

And that's how I became a Navy seal. That's how I got to seal Come six and then I was invited to be a part of that team twenty three of the best people I've ever met. UM got on the ground and I've been asked, how do you how do you? How do you clear a compound that big? And the way we did it was by a mastering the basics. UM, it's the guy in front of yours left, you go right. And I happened to be there. I had a front row seat to the greatest mission of

modern history. And I just followed my guys, watching some of the coolest guys in the world. UM go from Florida floor and I ended up being the guy went at the last of the stairs, and because the guy in front of me went left, I went right, and there was a sawn and been lud and I shot him. And it was it was simply because we we went there. We didn't go there for the fame. We went there for the first Americans who actually fought Al Qaeda. Tote of toe Um on flight ninete and the reason they

fought al Qaeda, um was to save the Capitol. And the coolest thing about them is that before they thought to the death, they voted. And that to me give me goose bumps right now as I tell you that. Sorry. And I just happened to be the right guy at the right place, at the right time, with the with the perfect team, the best pilots and the best air crew. And I just did what the nation asked. And that's as simple as it gets. What was that like to take out a guy who has killed so many Americans,

has done so much harm to our country? It was, it was. It was almost surreal when when when the guy in front of me went up the stairs, I was right behind him. I remember, I can still close my eyes and see it. It wasn't um. It was more of a we're gonna blow up now, let's get it over with. And I squeezed him. We went up the stairs and when I saw him, he was taller than I said I thought, skinnier than I thought. Um. This the nation deserves it. It It was, it was, it was.

It was so surreal after I shot him as a good guy, as an American, when I shot because he was he had his hands on a Maldon Lawton's shoulders. He was pushing her towards me and I shot him. My first reaction was to move her out of the way because other Navy seals will be coming in the room.

And then I saw his two year old son staring at me, and as a father, I remember that the humanity thinking this poor kid's got nothing to do with this, and I moved him aside, put him on the bed, and another guy came in the room and I was standing over ben Lawn's body. I can hear him taking his last breath. And one of my guys came in. He looked at me. I was standing there and he said are you okay? And I said no, Um, what do we do now? And he said, well, now we

find a computer. We do this every night. Hundreds of times we've done this. And said, yeah, you're right, I'm back. Oh my god, and said, yeah, you just killed a sombit lot of your life just changed. Is it just training that kicks in during that, because how do you I think clearly under that kind of I mean, is it just all of the training that just kicks in? Like I don't think at least it was it was

the training. It was more of the missions we've been on before, because the I think the average guy there had done about three fifty four in a combat missions. We were experienced, so we knew what we were getting into. And it wasn't there wasn't even fear anymore. It was more of acceptance of what we're going to do. But we've done us so many times. It was just he was just a bigger threat, of bigger target. Even Bill mccraven,

Admiral sorry, Admiral Bill mccraven. Before we left on the mission, he pulled us aside right before we left, and we're into all of that Afghanistan. We're gonna launch across the border, and he said, uh, he said, hey, you know what, guys, last night, I watched my favorite movie. Uh. It's called Hoosiers and it's about a basketball team in Hickory, Indiana, and they went to play the national or the state

championship in Indianapolis. And there's seven guys on the team and they've never really been out of that gym, but they went to this huge arena and they're looking around, they're all star struck. And he recognized how his team was starstruck, and he grabbed a tape measure and said, okay, what's the measurement from the back of the rim to the feet of line? It's coach, Okay, they he got

a short guy on the tall guys shoulders. What's what's the measurement from the hoop to the floor ten feet coach And he said, you'll find these are the exact same measurements as you're as you're gym and Hickory. It's just a bigger audience. And he looked at us Bill mc craven and said, gentlemen, you do this every night. It's just a bigger audience. And as we're leaving to

get the helicopters, I pulled him aside. I said, Admiral, you're so busy selling this to the administration, right and I have really doubt you watched Hoosier's last night, but you were born to give us that speech right now. Yeah, talk about a you know, a pep talk. It was really good. Well, like I said, I try to claim we were professionals. We didn't need that. But it's your health. I'm sure you know. I played sport which does not

even comparable with obviously what you guys did. But you know, those things do help because it gets you in the headspace and and you know what, it gets you ready to go out and get in the game, so to speak. So I don't playing team sports as a child is important for life. Um, I'm a big believer in it. I talked to professional football team NFL all the time, and I tell them it doesn't matter why it's second and fifteen, it just is. It's time's ticket, let's go,

come on. That's it. Well, I was actually captain of the lacrosse team, but I didn't know that by the way too, so I probably should have. But you led the rescue teams for Captain Richard Phillips from the Smalley Pirates in two thousand nine, and also the team to rescue Marcus Littrell. So you have seen some things in your life. Yeah again, um. One of my favorite quotes, I don't know where to give credit, um, but something I heard was wherever you are, be there, and if

you apply yourself, you can you can. You can find yourself in situation. So I I was. I was on the mission to find Margot's trail. I was a lead jumper. I actually left Virginia Beach on Good Friday, April tenth, three thousand nine, on my birthday for my daughter's preschool tea party, and fifteen hours and forty six minutes later, we jumped into the Indian Ocean, rescued uh Captain Phillis

from Smally Pirates. So it's just it's just apply yourself, the realization that doesn't matter what you look like where you're from, you can do anything you want. You can find yourself in situations, but apply yourself and that's it. And it just I happened to be there a couple of different times, but my brother actually was messing with me today. I was talking to me, he said, I reminded Beforest. Gump, only I didn't have a shrimp boast. So so you're basically just at your daughter's tea party.

And then they're like, yeah, so get ready, we've got something big for you. I had. I had a pink plate in my hand, and she was four years old, and I was giving I was putting smiley face cookies and cupcakes on on a plate and I walked over and I got a text message and said a guy by the name of Captain Richard Phillips has been captured by some of the pirates and your team is going to go get him now. And what's so cool about

that is So that was two thousand nine. I was at Seal Team six, which is the count of Terror Team We. Seal Team six was designed to rescue American hostages at sea. It had never been done, says twenty nine years. It had never been done. And we jumped in there and and and if you're not familiar with the story, it was a Navy destroyer towing a light bulb with Captain Phillips on it. We didn't go there to kill those guys. We jumped in to rescue the hostage.

We simply put snipers on the back of that boat to watch them to make sure nothing unsafe happened as we're preparing for the rescue. As we were preparing for the rescue, something very unsafe happened of a sniper shot. And the coolest thing about that those three snipers four days prior were in their own beds in Virginia on a long weekend. We've never done this. They're guns that not need to be sited in for the most difficult

shots of their lives. But their guns were sited in for the most difficult shots of their lives because they were prepared. And one of the lessons I tell my guys is um complacency kills. Don't get complacent, don't rest on your world. The worst thing you can say is this is the way we've always done it. And I would tell my guys before mission, guys, don't die because you got bored. Do everything like you do everything well.

And I know it's cited in it means now because I am an out officially gun owner and have been shot shooting guns over the past couple of guns, so I so I'm worth familiar. Do you have a shotgun at home? That's the best I tell my wife all the time. That's the best deterrent is a shotgun because as you're walking down the stairs if someone breaks in, yeah, if you could hear a shotgun cock, nothing else sounds like that, that's the best thing you can do for yourself.

So Rob, we're doing baby steps. I just got a six hour three, so we're going to start with like a concealed carry. All'll start there. And no six six hours of my six hours of my favorite too. They don't they don't sponsor me. Yet they should. I've I've fired a six hour P six probably a million times in my life. I love that gun. I know how work. They should absolutely sponsor. But yeah, it's my favorite so far.

So we're we're starting small and then maybe we'll but I have shot in a R fifteen and it's very easy to shoot, so and like, oh, it's it's amazing, it's amazingly uh friendly, it's a great gun. I love that. And then, by the way, it doesn't stand for assault rifle. It's it's not that. That's not even though the liberals say that to us, it's not, but it stands now. But I do. I do like it. So maybe if I was to get one, I would and it would also just make people go crazy, which I would appreciate.

So but I think it'd be awesome. We we should actually you should get one, and you and I can. We we we should we should do that regardless. I would like that would be a lot of fun. I would love to do that quick commercial break back with American

badass Rob O'Neil. You're talking about sort of this, you know, camaraderie with your team and working together as a cohesive unit and what we're saying in the military right now is you know a lot of this woke stuff like critical race theory and and all these things that actually

drives division. What kind of impact do you think that has now on the military and moving forward, Well, it's it's a huge impact because you gotta figure put yourself in the in the shoes of a young man or woman that potentially wants to join the military, but they're seeing the negative repercussions of joining. They're saying, that's it's white supremacy. It's it's a negative and the same thing as trying to be a cop. They're saying, all this bad, Why would you want to do that? And it it

really impacts them. When when when we have the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Millie saying he doesn't understand white supremacy, but it's got to be there, it's that's nonsense. And the way that I h the way that I've seen it before is you know, you know, I think we're all in agreement that there shouldn't be you shouldn't be racist, you shouldn't be a pessimistic or anti anything. But that's as that's the conversation you need to have

with them. And here's the thing that's bad. You're an asshole, don't do it. But they're spending all this money, wasting their time training people on what they should already know, because it's when when when When I first joined the Navy, the first thing they do is they put you in the same uniform. They cut your hair because there are no individuals and that's it. You're not you're not there too to show, to to to to represent yourself. That's it.

One team, one fight. And I realized the first day that we're all from different places, but we're all scared. And it doesn't matter if you're the CEO of a company or the guy that went and ben Lan's bedroom. We're all we've all had our first day and we're afraid.

And that's okay, that's fine, and it's one team. But they're just bringing this negative political nonsense that doesn't need to be there when we should be concerned about determines forward defense and alliance solidarity, and they're taking away from it. And you're saying that the Army, I think was below fifteen thousand recruits this year and the only the only branch of service that's staying up is the Marine Corps

because moneys are just awesome, and that's it. But they're they're they're they're they're they're taking away from what we should have in the military. And it's and and these these politicians don't really care because all all a politicians cares about, especially a congressman, is uh the next election, so that they'll spend eighteen months out of a two year term um on the campaign trail. That's it. And then they'll say this nonsense to get someone else to

to whatever. And it's it's really affecting, um, what we have in the world, our our deterrence, our ford defense, like I said, our alliance solidarity is dwindling just because of these politicians. It's nonsense. Well, and it's also like, okay, so the I was reading that the U. S. Army is putting its soldiers through training on gender pronouns and coaching officers on wind to offer soldiers gender trans transition surgery.

And it's just like, the way I look at that is if you're a bad guy, right, like, if you're a Roan, you're terrorists, your isis your whatever I mean, are aren't you like looking at that as weak? That this is the focus of our military. The Vladimir Putin is laughing at us right now. You said that, he said, look at these idiot Americans. They can't even decide what gender they are. And and he he really is. And I'm a big believer in in in personal freedom. You

you know, whatever you want to do doing yourself. You don't affect someone else. Fine, But we've made such a big deal out of it, especially the media. And I'm not even sure what the media has to but they're gaining out of this nonsense. But Voltomer buds watching, Jesu Ping is watching, and and it's it's like it or not.

It's making us weak and they're taking advantage. Um, look look at Voltomer Putin getting Ukraine's inde Ukraine right now, I know so many parts and Jesus Biggs going bade Taiwan probably for the end of the year, and there's nothing we can do about it. We're begging Saudi Arabia for oil because they know we're weak, because they look at the way we're talking to each other, and it's

complete weakness. If you were young Rob O'Neil today, would you still join the military, Would you join today's military. What I would, Um, I've thought about this a lot. I could ask that, of course, quite a bit. If I had, I thought it was unique. No, no, it's no, it's good. I think I probably if uh, maybe a freshman high school, I would tell Rob O'Neil to get straight a's and get into the Naval Academy and learn

how to fly jets. Um, I would definitely join. But the best advice I had for myself, and and I'm just breaking it down simplicity, master the basics. If I could give fifteen year old Rob O'Neil any advice, that advice is this simple, ask her out. Take the shot.

That's it. Take the shot in life. And then, I don't mean you know either him or her manner woman asked her out, ask him out, but take the shot, because because I mean, the worst thing happens is she says no, and you're right back where you started, or she says yes. When whenever people say well why is that? Why is that good looking girl dating that ugly guy? You know why? Because he took the chance, he asked take the shot. But the point I'm getting at is,

in life, take the shot. You mentioned the recruiting challenges. Uh, So the armed forces is facing it's the biggest recruiting challenge since the military very draft ended in July of nineteen seventy three. As you mentioned, ERMI missed recruiting goal of about fifteen thousand soldiers, coming up short of its goal. Recruitment challenges sort of all around. You know what, how do we reshape that? You know what? What do you think behind that? Why aren't people wanting to join the

military right now? I think it's the wocus. I think it's the um uh. I think the masculinity is being shown as weakness and and you know you shouldn't try to be a part of this more I don't. I think it's um. The two oceans on our left and right, Atlantic specific and have given us too much freedom, and we don't realize the bad stuff. And there's bad people in the world, uh, and they want to do us

harm and we need good people to defend us. And the the unfortunate thing is when it comes to I mean we I have nothing but faith in this country, and I know that good men and women are joining and I think right now is kind of being cast over because of stuff like Minecraft or TikTok or or what China is doing sending spies into our schools at n y U. I don't know how many spies are

in New York. Um. And it's just the bad thing is that once the day comes where we need to defend ourselves, we do have the men and women there. But if I don't want it to take it something to shake us up, and I think it might that that's it. But but you know, I have faith. I'm gonna I'm an eternal optimist. Um. But but you know we're we're closer that day and it's gonna be. I mean you look at look how many uh on both sides of the eye. Look how many Congressmen, how many senators?

The President talking about nuclear holocaust when they don't quite realize what that means. What what the collapsing of the ozone layer? When d nuclear weapons are detonated in Russia, China, the West, and the United States. It's it's a very real thing. But I I do have faith on a lot of our people. I just think one of my favorite quotes is from Babe Ruth. He said, the loudest

booze come from the eat of seats. So we're hearing the loud mouths on the left and the right, but I think most of us in the middle, and I consider you and you and I in the middle. Um, I think that the reality will set it. It just it's gonna be a hard price to pay. Do you think the standard should be if you are not willing to send your own son or daughter to that specific war,

then we shouldn't go. Yeah, I think so too. It's I mean, it's a tough one too, because I has some as someone who's been to war as a young Navy seal when we invaded Iraq, I was so excited to go to war because I will kill anybody. But now, you know, pushing fifty years old, I kind of look back and realize that a lot of people are making decisions based on politics. I think the war is uh. I think war is nasty. War's violent, war is fast, and it's permanent, and I don't wish it on anybody there.

I've seen so many people in combat zones that a lot of people don't realize that most people are just trying to get on with their lives. Most people are good people. Some of the most welcoming people I've ever met when Ramadi Iraq when I was in the house, Um getting mud on their floor and looking at them thinking, I understand why they hate us, but we should most

of us shouldn't be doing that stuff. But you know, when it comes down to it, um, yeah, we will need those people that you know in the parents too, that will send their kids to do that. There were no consequences for our military leaders with the botched Afghanistan pull out or lying to us about that drone strike that ended up taking out a were an AID worker and his kids. What happens when there are no consequences

for failed actions like that. The only officer that was funnished for that was the lieutenant colonel and I forget his name, sorry, but he came out on Facebook and said that they shouldn't be doing or YouTube and said they shouldn't be doing this. Somebod needs to be held accountable and he was used fired. The only person speaks up against the system. Um, everyone else is scott free.

There's no no repercussions at all because nobody gets held accountable because again our news cycle and then there's trying to get you know, the politicians trying to get re elect two months he or six months there for senators, and it's just it's nonsense and and and uh, it's you know, how much money can we make from the military industrial complex to get re elected, to get to make sure that a lot of these places make more

money based on the wars were funding. It's it's a it's a vicious cycle because a lot of the money that we make, you gotta figure DC doesn't produce anything, but they make a lot of money and then they pay the contractors. The only thing more expensive than war is preparation for war, which we're doing right now, sending billions to Ukraine, and the only people suffering in that are the civilians in Ukraine. But no one knows where the money is going. We spent billions and maybe four

land canvas made it there. No nobody knows where it's going. No one's seeing No one knows what Zelinski is doing. He's an actor in a green room and Hollywood if he's so under durest, but he's got Hollywood actors going over there taking picture. Nobody knows what's happening. And this

is this is the self licking ice cream cone. And it's a shame that they're using war to make money to to keep funding themsel we're also just being told nonsense like Russia sabotaged their own pipelines, Like why they already control the supply right, Like we've already seen them shut lord Stream off. We've already seen them shut other pipelines off, turn them back, like they already control it. To why would you sabotage your leverage over Europe? It

just makes no sense. You can't can't even get an answer out of them. Because something happened with nord Stream. No one knows what it was, and they're asking you if it's the United States, they're asking if it's Russia. Um, No, nobody knows what's happening because nobody tells anyone the truth. They tell you what you want to hear, and then we forget about it. Um. The energy energy is the

end all deal. The reason that the reason that the gas prices so high, the reason that how woween treats are are so expensive, the reason it's so expensive to send your kids back to college, all comes back to being energy independent. And the only thing you know, I mean,

the only person we ever had. They went to d C to try to get the Goddess Energy Independent filled our strategic loyal reserves of Donald Trump, and and he realized the hard way that if you go against the swamp, swamp has fangs and it will come at you non stop. And that's all that happened. You have one guy in there, the only president, by the way, that hasn't started the war,

and he got ostracized. That's it's it's it's crazy if you if you just stop and look at what is happening, you can see like the Lindsay Graham's, the the the uh Ms, McConnell's, the Hillary Clinton's. It's not the person that's in the White House for four years that's the problem. It's the person that's in the capital for fifty years that's the problem. And for some reason we just keep buying their nonsense, like we like Nancy Pelosia. There are

people in California. They don't even realize she's their representative. Trump. Well, Trump totally reshaped my thinking on all of this stuff because he really showed us that you can legitimately have peace through strength, you know, like sending those tom Hawk missiles to Syria or the Mother of All bombs. And so he absolutely reshaped my thinking on all the foreign policy. Well, look what he did with the that Iranian general when he killed him right outside of the bag that an

national airport. That was a That was a ballsy move to kill him right outside to show them I'm not messing around with you guys. And that's what we need, peace through strength. We need the Ronald Reagan that said, uh to Michail Gorber that not only is a nuclear war unwinnable, it should never be fought. The realization and not the transgender pronoun bathroom bullshit? Who who was telling you the truth and legitimately cares about you, me and

our families. That's it, And it's not that hard. Once they start spinning this nonsense. You start to get these politicians to talk up both sides of their mouth all they're trying to get reelected, and it's I I just I really wish for people would because I think most people are are centrists. I really did like I'm more liberal than people would realize as far as socially, um fisically I'm conservative, but most of us are like that.

But you get these nonsensical nonsense, which even sounds ridiculous to say it all they're trying to do is personal power, get re elected and make more money. Look how many uh like Paul Pelosi. Oh my god, he's you know, he better than Steve Forbes as far as trading stocks because oh this is coincidence. Nows wife has given him inside information. Quick commercial break. You're gonna want to stay

right there, trust me. Well, I think Trump might be the only guy that went to d C and came out worse, you know, like they all go to like he because he was already rich. Right, he didn't need the job. You have all these other people like Gear pointing out they go to get Ridge. Yeah, he didn't. He didn't need that. The last thing Donald Trump needed

it was to be in the White House. But he did it, and he did it for the right reasons because he, I mean, believe it or not, he cares about Americans and and and nowadays being America first is racist or something, which is nonsense because every country has a border. Martha's vineyard has a border, but we don't in the South. And all he wanted to do was a border security and freedom, freedom to prosper. That's all

he was wanting to do. But they started labeling in because that's that's what these politicians, that's what these um reporters do. For some reason, I can't figure it out. I'd love to figure it out, but I can't. Well, and to like they're all afraid of them, you know, like Putin didn't try this stuff under Trump. And then one of my friends, uh, well, when someone was telling me in the military about like Iran took out one of her drones and it made a bunch of news.

But they were telling me that if you understand flight patterns, you which you probably do, but I don't. This is just what the person told me who I trust. But they were saying that if you looked at the way the drone flies, it was clearly not man it was not man craft or what is it, it was an unmanned drone because of the flight patterns, and so when they took out or drone, they knew it wasn't manned. So it was like a way to like quote unquote

retaliate without actually instigating anything further. It was like more of a safe face a face saving operation. So like even with stuff like that, it's like they didn't want to really mess with Trump because they knew they'd be on the receiving end of a lot. No, Well then they understood what what no, but Donald Trump do and and that's what we need as a leader. And um, you know he he would do that. President Obama would

do that. Um. The two missions that we talked about, would we rescued um long survivor I'm sorry when we rescued Captain Phillips and killed Bin Laden. Obama was in charge. And because he understood, even though we disagree politically that southside politics, don't mess with me, or I will do this.

And that's called deterrence. And we just don't have that right now because everyone'sn't worried about like John Federman from Pennsylvania, what's called up, John Federwoman whatever nonsense he's saying in between his strokes to try to sound like someone that's just begging for votes. I think it's a shame. I mean, when when when we're a position like that where potentially gonna put someone in office, they can't even hear how

much of our recruiting challenges with the military. Do you think comes down to Joe Biden, Like just people young guys being like, you know what, I'm not fighting for this guy. You know, like he's destroying the country. He hates America. I'm not. I'm not doing this for him. Do you think that has anything to do with it? I think I think it's a lot because nobody wants to get involved with a lot of this. Uh uh.

It goes back to defund the police, It goes back to anyone trying to defend this country is a certain name, and I think a lot of it has to do with it with the borders. It's with it's all, you know, all that stuff where they're they're making the people who just want to do the right thing by us the bad guys, like when we're we're handing out xboxes to illegal aliens in New York, homeless veterans are a problem.

Nobody wants to be a part of that. It's just a shame, I mean, and at all, even though it's political talking points for a lot of these people, it comes it does come back to the individual making the decision, and you can see it, I mean, the results of the results of themselves. Nobody wants to be part of this. As someone who was quite literally willing to give his life for his country, how infuriating and frustrating is it

to see the deterioration that has taken place under Joe Biden. Well, the faith that I have is with the engineers, with the pilots, with the people that design the aircraft carriers and the submarines and missiles, the torpedoes. I know they're out there and I know they're doing the right thing. And again the noise gets the attention. So we do have good people out there, but we're just cutting it. We're cutting it short of more good people that could

be in there. Um And and it's it's everything from from you know, just just the way that for some reason, a lot of a lot of the media, a lot of social media, or making America the bad guy. And it shouldn't be that way. It is that way until they need us, um. But it's definitely an effect. Was a COVID vaccine mandate, an attempt to purge the military of certain people. I don't know what was going on

with that. I UM. I was a guy like I said, when when we invaded Iraq, they they did make us get vaccinated for smallpox, And I said, I don't know how many thirteen or fourteen shots of anthrax. And at the time, I was like I'm in the military and they they're telling me to do what I gotta do it. Um. Yeah, I think that I do think they were making a political stance again with the guys in the military, the men and women in the military that said they're not

going to do it for religious reasons. That's that's kind of on you. You are at a point where you're taking wordse so you kind of got to do it. Um. But I think that you know, now that they are admitting that the vaccine didn't work, I think they should reinstates you guys, because they wore definitely make political points

out of it. Yeah. Uh well, and then to like the Florida Surgeon General did some research and studies finding that for young men in particular, it increases the chance of cardiac arrest I think by like something like over eight percent, which is pretty wild figure people in that shape. They're pretty good shape. They don't really need it and

they're not not in the kill zone. Yeah, and like probably not good to increase her issues for guys who are going to be you know, writting like a billion miles and you know, doing some pretty crazy workout stuff. That stuff that I couldn't do, like Uh do you miss serving? I missed the camaraderie. And like I'm saying earlier, ID talk to three of my guys today and uh,

it's just nice to reminisce. Some of the stuff that I miss is the skydive trips that we would go to Tucson, Arizona, do ten jumps a day and they go to the trident, burn grill, hang out with Nelson Miller of beers, and wake up the next day. Scott, I missed that part. Um the other stuff, Um, we we we can make a lot of things suck. We make scuba diving suck, we make sniper stuff suck. Uh. I don't necessarily miss that, but I tell you what,

the camaraderie. That the old adage that misery loves company is true because some of the worst times, some of the darkest times in my life, brought out the best humor. And I do miss that. Um and and again, to answer your question earlier, I would totally do it again. We're saying, you know, real concerns with suicide rates for veterans. Why do you think that is and what should we be doing differently to help our veterans postermatic stress disorder

is real. And a lot of the stuff that we were sent to do, they asked a lot of us and it's okay. And I tell veterans right now that if you're having a bad day, just call someone. But if you're having a good day, call someone because they might be having a bad day. And the isolation is um and just the realizing some of stuff we did

was bad and it was it's not normal. Um. You know, there're there are people that I think about every day that I killed, that I fought in Iraq, And the only reason I killed them was because they grabbed a gun. The only reason they grabbed a gun is because I was in their room. And had we met, you know, the only reason I shot this guy's because we were born on different parts of the planet. Had we met somewhere else, would would we have gotten along? Would he

have been a funny guy? And I figured about these people? Um, So you know a lot of people that a lot of that stuff. You're not alone, just um, you know, get out there talks, so get outside. You wake up in the morning, get outside, see the sun and and and call a friend. And you're not You're not alone. I see too many of my friends killed themselves and it's not it's definitely not worth it. Like I said earlier, the clock keeps tick and tank keeps going and and

it will heal everything. You'll be just finding I mean even if like even on Twitter, I'll tell people give me a call, I'll talk to you as here guys talk about you know, boots and suits. Do we need changes in terms of people like Mark Millie who's the chairman of the Joints Chief and Staff. Yeah, And that's an easy fix to the problem, is there. Uh, what what I always say about the military brass is when you get to a point where you're not carrying your

own luggage, you need to leave. So we we shouldn't have four star generals in charge. We should have majors for a lieutenant colonel in charge, people that that know the sergeant that met the startain major know the master chief to talk to the people that realize the pulse of the men and women on the ground. We they're promoting themselves out of work and they're just they're they're so these are people that when they go to the v a uh, they call a week before so the

VA spit shines everything. So they just see the best version. I want people that I want to I want people to see us that are worse because you don't learn from success, you learn from failure. And guys like Mark Miller just so out of touch and they're surrounded by yes men. They're surrounded by people that simply tell them what they want to hear so that they can get their job eventually. And that's a shame. That's that's just

typical with government bureaucracy everywhere. So I have the have the lower ranking manner woman immediately in charge and they'll handle the flight. Would we win a major war right now, yes, Um, we would, um, just because we have so many smart people that are controlling the satellites and the the ships

and the subs. China's got a bigger navy than we do right now, but um, we are designed to destroy big militaries, and so I think personally we can beat Russia and China at the same time and a matter of days. Um. And we're not going to announce that, but that's that's just the way it is. That's that's the way we're built. And like I said to the nuclear war is not even worth talking about. That that's well nobody wins in nuclear war. But yeah, we we can. We can win all the Yes, beer badass in an

actual American hero. Is there anything else you want to leave us with before we go? Um? No, at least I really appreciate having me. Definitely check out the Operator Podcast. I just did episode eleven, and I talked about stuff like this and and the way that I break it down. I called the Operator Podcast because I used to be

an operator. But everyone's an operator. The single mom raising her kids, the guy that takes up the trash at three am in New York City, the plumber that those are operators making light better, and I just break it down operator Operator, and I talked about stuff just like this. Appreciate you to check that out. That's awesome. Thanks for your service. Rob, you are a badass, and I really you're You're awesome. I've met you before. You're a great guy.

I really appreciate you taking the time to come on the show. You've made my day. Thank you so much for having I really appreciate it. So that was Robin Oleo still Team six Hero took out a Salma bid Ladden. I've met m be Or at Fox is a really good guy, a really great guy. So I appreciate in this time and I appreciate you guys listening to the show every Monday Thursday, but you can listen whenever you

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