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The Red Wave with Ned Ryun

Oct 27, 202240 minSeason 2Ep. 53
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The media finally admits a red wave is coming, but it has always been there. So why did it take so long for the media to acknowledge it? Ned Ryun, the founder, and CEO of American Majority, joins Lisa to discuss. Also, what do the midterm elections mean for the realignment of the Republican Party as working-class voters continue to change parties? And is it time for Mitch McConnell to go?

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We've seen a lot of changes in American politics over the years, particularly with President Trump, the America First Movement really reshaping the Republican Party. The Republican Party is now the party of the working class, of working class voters, Democrats the party of coastal leads. And we've seen recently even AOC who purported to be on the side of the working class now getting shut down, shouted down at some of the events that she's been she's been holding.

People are now aware that she's a fraud, that the Left are frauds on a lot of these issues. So what is this November November eight, this election, these mid terms? What does it mean for that? What does it mean for this realignment? And what does it mean for the current Republican leadership. Is it time for Mitch McConnell to go? I think so? Will it be his time to go? And and some of these critical races we have liber

Terryan candidates on the ballot. Will they be spoilers? We're gonna ask all these questions to my friend ned Ryan. You've probably seen him on Fox. He's on Tucker a lot with Laura Ingram as well. He is the founder and CEO of American Majority, a nonpartisan political training institute whose mission is to identify and mold the next wave of liberty minded candidates, grassroot activists, and community leaders. Since its founding in January of two thousand eight, American Majority

has trained over fifty thou candidates and activists. He's a really smart guy. He's a friend of mine. So we'll hear what he has to say and what does he think is going to happen on November eighth, What are his predictions? All of that and more. Stay with us, Ned, Ryan. That Ryan, It's good to have you on the podcast, my friend. Yeah, absolutely, good to be with you. Lisa. Last time I saw you was at a Buck's engagement party. That was a lot of fun. That was a total blast.

I was telling my wife later, it was just fun. For everybody that you've either interacted with on TV, that you've known of seen, and we were all in the same room together, it was It was awesome. It was an awesome evening. And I typically do not stay until they shut us down, but we stayed until I shut us down and went to the after party at the local pub. So it was it was an awesome night. I did not get home till a lot later than

I normally stay out. Ditto, ditto. But it was so much fun to see you and meet your lovely wife, So that was it was a lot of fun. But you know, and we had a great night, and things are starting to look brighter politically in the country. You know, we've got the light at the end of the tunnel coming up here in November eight. How are you feeling about things, Well, I've always felt bullish about Republican chances pretty much the entire time. I think I think we

threw some people off. Which frustrated me a little bit was the attempt by the corporate propagandists and Democrats to somehow really sell a false narrative that Democrats had a legitimate chance in the mid terms of somehow holding onto the House. You know, I think it's a false narrative that they're going to hold onto the Senate, that they weren't going to get absolutely crushed in these mid terms.

At least part of it was just basically, you cannot escape the gravitational pull of history and a lot of trends that has shown along the way that the first mid term for a president is usually pretty pretty brutal, especially if that presidents below and approval rating. And I've joked in op eds and on Twitter when a president is under on average he loses thirty seven seats in

the House in his first mid term. I don't know how bad it gets when you have a president that's under forty in approval rating, where Biden is in some of these these national polls. But to give people perspective, you know, Bill Clinton was at I think in approval. I believe he lost fifty three seats in the House that year. Fast forward to Barack Obama was forty five and approval rating and lost sixty three seats in the House.

Now there's different dynamics obviously between those years and redistricting, some of the lines have gotten hardened, all of those things. I have no trouble believing that the low end of pickups for Republicans in the Houses you will be thirty seven seats according to historical averages. But I'm starting to suspect it will be in the forties, if if not higher. Yeah, no, I agree I think that this race is or obviously we can't get up, give up. We need a uh

in a full force ahead until November eight. But you're right, I I do. We live in this era where the media isn't interested in reporting the facts, they're interested in persuading. But what we've come to realize with as well, posters do too. Oh this is the thing I've been you know,

the psy ops, the operation on polls. And I remind people again in the infamous ABC Washington post in Wisconsin that showed Biden winning by seventeen points the week before the elections, he ends up winning by twenty thousand votes, and I have serious questions about whether he actually won that state based off some stuff, but still seventeen points and barely ekes out a win by I don't even

think it was a full point. And they were attempting to do the same thing this year, Lisa, this is the thing that frustrated me a little bit with some on the right and conservatives starting to panic when they actually believe some of these rigged and manipulated polls. And I've been highlighting over the last few weeks registered voter

polls are trash. They mean nothing, garbage, Their garbage coming down the home stretches the likely voter polls, and the likely voter polls have typically always shown Republicans winning the generic by anywhere from to three upwards of six points, And now what you're seeing is even these registered voter polls are showing Republicans up five six points. So you know, I just moving forward, and again, I'm extremely optimistic about pickups in the House. I think we're gonna take the Senates.

I think we're gonna have a thirty twenty, if not greater, Republican gubernatorial split. I think we're gonna pick up state legislative seats, secretary of state, attorney generals. I think it's going to be pretty definitive. But in the future, Republicans and Conservatives need to look at polls with a very skeptical eye and ask themselves are these properly weighted? Are

these registered voter versus likely voter? And don't fall for these games again, because the corporate propagandists are driving a certain narrative and in many ways trying to suppress the vote by really trying to say, well, it's you know, you don't have as good a chance of winning this election, You're not going to have a definitive a win. Just ignore them. It's not the truth. Well, and that's what it is. It's to suppress the vote and also donors

as well. Ned. I mean that's that We've seen Mitch McConnell pull out of Arizona, a race where Blake Masters is going to win, and he pulled out. He canceled almost ten million dollars in television ads. Uh, closer to eighteen million actually by the time it's all said and done, which is a crying shame. Which to make matters even worse, Lisa, he's dropped I believe, seven million into the Alaska race,

which is essentially two Republicans running against each other. It's just he wants Murkowski to win, who I think is a complete and utter disaster. But but to highlight how bad it is, again pulls out eighteen million dollars worth of ads from Arizona on behalf of Blake Masters. Quite frankly, Lisa, of because he's made it known he hates Blake and has spent seven million in a race that a Republican

is going to win. Regardless. It's absolutely insane. But but I would you know, since we're talking about Mitch McConnell, I would remind people Mitch is far more concerned with twenty six votes than he is with fifty one, And by that I mean he wants to have control of the Senate GOP Caucus no matter what happens on November eight. And it's a shame because I would hope that he would have a much bigger, larger view of what's actually taking place in this country. But he can't get past himself.

Do you think he will be in a leadership position when Republicans take back the edit? Or is this time up? If I'm being completely honest, I sincerely hope his time is up. But but I've been involved in leadership election, but that was in the House for ten years. First of all, you've got to get a horse to ride, right.

It's one thing to say we despise Mitch McConnell, and I'll be the first to tell you I loathe and despise miss McConnell, But in you have a horse to ride in that majority leader race, it's you're basically, for all intents and purposes, howling at the moment. My hope

is that Rick Scott will step up. And Rick Scott out of Florida is the NRSC, the nash Republican Senatorial Committee Chair this year, I think Republicans are probably gonna got seven, but even six, and if he has a really successful cycle, I think Rick Scott has the ability to stand up and say I can be I'm a legitimate option as majority leader to Mitch McConnell. But but the real question is will he actually stand up and

throws happening ring? Yeah. I mean they've they've been fighting a little bit publicly, so maybe I don't I want to say. I mean, you know, as Mitch McConnell has been really truly bagging on Blake masters, what's probably not as well known as that, Rick Scott went out of his way to help outside entities raise money to kind of fill the gap uh in some of the outside

spending in Arizona on the half of Blake. So Rick is committed uh to these races and actually making sure Republicans get the majority, which I would argue I'm not fully convinced Mitch mcconnelly's well. And what's important is, you know, Mitch McConnell just doesn't fit in with today's Republican party. It has left him behind. He's a he's a relic. He is part of the past and the party's changing. No, I mean he's he's a complete relic of the Republican

Party that no longer exists. That he's far more concerned. He's very myopic on what goes on. He wants to be in charge of the GOP Caucus, inside of the U. S. Senate, everything else, in my my estimation having observed him, his details. But the thing that concerns me, Lisa is we all know that if Mitch McConnell is not leader, and nobody else steps up, you're stuck with a John Cornan or a John Thune, who I would argue, aren't a whole

lot better, maybe even worse than Mitch McConnell. I think John Corner would be worst because at least Mitch McConnell doesn't believe in today's Republican Party, but he at least can fight, whereas John Cornan, as we saw, sell us out with this an amendment. Yeah, so I agree, I don't trust. I think he's a nice guy, but he's

just not right. And that's the point is we've seen, you know, you've been witnessed, you've been part of it, this massive realignment in American politics or the Republican Party is now the party of the working class, you know, the leftists, the coastal elite. What do you think this election means for that continued evolution of the parties in

realignment I have. This has been one of my arguments, you know, coming into obviously in the primaries, which so s Lisa, when I do American Majority trainings, which is an entity I started roun. I always remind people a couple of things. Politics is policy, but a party is what people say it is. And the people who say what it is are those that show up and win

in primaries and show but conventions. And I think this thing Donald Trump did this year, which I wholeheartedly applauded, is that he went into primaries and made sure that he endorsed the strongest America First candidate and heavily contested races to make sure that candidate won. And so if America First candidates are winning Republican primaries, you begin to

change the complexion of the Republican Party. It will still say Republican on the storefront, but the essence will completely change. And I think you started to really see something change this year, in which obviously Donald Trump was the beginning of it. But he's continued in in which the Republican Party's essence is is truly changing to more of America First.

It's not gonna happen just because of one election, though I would remind people this will take multiple elections, multiple primaries, but even more so, and I've told Trump this, it's one thing for America First candidates to win primaries. Now you've got to seal the deal. They've got to win the general. And when they win the general, then they become the standard bears for the Republican Party as America First candidates quick commercial break more than ned Ryan Well.

And of course we were told that they weren't going to win the general election. But now Carry Lake looks dynamite. In Arizona, Blake Masters looks like he's gonna he's gonna pull it off. Oz looks like he's going to pull it off. I talked to my former boss we just had on, Chris Wilson of w p A Intelligence. He thinks Masterrano is going to pull it off. In Pennsylvania's you've got a lot of these guys. The media said, Hey,

bad Or J. D Vance is looking really good. He's gonna win Ohio and so you have all these candidates to the media, was like, Oh, they're too far to the right, they're not gonna win. They look like they're gonna win. Then yeah, And I would also remind people, you know, we've been focused a lot on the federal races. Obviously it's hugely important House and Senate. The goubernort Toil races, to me are really fascinating. Lisa, you mentioned carry Lake.

I do think she's going to win. You know, in Arizona, the dynamic is I think we could sweep all the statewides, not only the goodnatorial but Secretary State Attorney General sleep Blake in the Senate. I think we could pick up three state House seats and three state Senate seats in Arizona. But then you moved to Nevada, you moved to Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.

These are some really key battleground states for the presidential and a lot of these states, like Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, you have Republican majorities in the state legislature. What you've been lacking is a Republican governors who actually signed into law election reform. For example, in Michigan, Wittmer Vito thirty

nine election integrity bills just this last year. If you had a Tutor Dixon winning and you pass those thirty nine election bills, I think you're going to clean up a lot of the questions that we have post well. And also like maybe let's just try to get the elections done night of you know, so people can actually

have faith in what's going on. This to me is an utter shame that the American election system is so wildly dysfunctional that we have done things, We are doing things in this country that many countries and other parts of the world left behind long ago. I continue to remind people France in nineteen seventy five banned mail in ballots, why because of the massive amount of fraud that was taking place with mail in ballots. Most of the world

does not use electronic voting machines. I mean, there's a lot of different things that we should be doing. The thing that I love about Florida, where I know you're at Leasta, are their election laws in which they start counting if I'm if I remember correctly, all mail in ballots three days before election day and then on election day are counting election day votes, so that the third largest state in the Union can actually announce the results by call it ten or eleven o'clock on election day.

That's how every state should be doing it. Start counting your mail in ballots three days before so that by late on election day you can actually announced results. However, we all know the Left doesn't want to do that. They want to have upwards of ten days after election day to make sure they get enough votes to get the results they want. Well, and to your point, I mean, what's going on in your state, your governor, secretary, state

of change. That's probably way more important than these federal elections, to be honest. One, to your point, to prevent the tom foolery that we saw in elections, but also just to stand up to this over aggressive federal government that just continues to grow and corporations, to actually make federalism

a real thing again. Yeah, how about that? That is actually a real part of what the founders envisioned for our constitutional republic that all powers not granted and they were very limited powers granted to the national government were to be given to the state government. And all we've been doing over the last hundred years has been consolidating power into d C but you need guys like Ron De Santis and others who are gonna say, Nope, that's not your right to do that. We're not going to

give you that power. In fact, we're going to clause that power back. But I love it even more, Lisa. I mean, just even with this ridiculous c d C, all the kids are going to get as part of their school immunization schedule, the COVID, which isn't really even a vaccine by the way, the COVID vaccine shot. I mean the fact that every I think every Republican governor needs to make it very clear, if they haven't already, we will not let this happen inside of our state.

And that's another way to stand up and say no, we're not going to let d C or these I think corrupt institutions dictate to us. It's not your right, it's all right, and we're not gonna let it happen. But it also seems like Republicans are growing a spy.

You know, obviously I'm a huge fan of my governor, Governor De Santis here one you know what or Secretary of Health did by or the surgeon general here putting out a study actually looking at the vaccine saying you know what, actually there's a lot of real concerns for young men and what it does to their heart and cardia. But just really standing up to the media, standing up for what is right, standing up for freedom, and it's worked.

I mean, he probably could win by double digits here in Florida, which would be heard of, so you can have a spine and still went over the middle, went over the middle well. And I think the other thing too, that's going to play into this year. I do think

the Santists is going to win by double digits. I think it's going to remove Florida from battleground status for I don't think Democrats are going to be able to consider Florida a battleground state, not only because of what Ron will do this year in a couple of weeks, but now he's put a lot of time and effort

into boosting Republican registration. I now I think instead of being down whatever it was a hundred and fifty or whatever it was in two or something like that, there's been a massive switch like that was even like a month ago, I haven't or there like a couple of weeks ago or something. So it's got to be. I'd have to check in with my friends over there, but

uh yeah, it's significant to your point. But think about the fact that Trump won Florida by three and a half points in when when Democrats held a six figure advantage in registration. So this all leads into I just don't think Florida is going to be a battleground states, which frees up our resources to play in other states. Do you worry about any of these libertarian candidates on the ballot and some of these critical races, I think like Arizona has one, Georgia, you know, will they be spoilers?

My concern is there is the potential maybe in some of these statewides that are close, for them to be

potential spoilers. I have to tell you, you you know, it's not one of the things I've really hammered on, but it is a complete and utter failure by the RNC to have not made sure that there's a Green Party candidate on the ballot and a lot of these states, And knowing how the R and T used to operate back in the day, I can tell you they put a time, a lot of time and money and resources into actually making sure that a Green Party candidate made the ballot, and if you look now, I would argue

in most states there's there's not a Green Party candidates on the ballot, which is a shame. And we all know that the Libertarians will for the most part, not always, but for the most part takeaway Republican votes. So I would blame the r and C for not doing what they should have done, um, you know, coming into which is also frustrating because you know, you look at what happened heading into and they weren't really prepared for any of that either. So it's like, what are you guys

doing over there? You know? I mean, I've got I know people over there who do go work, but it's just like, come on, you know, we need you know, you and I both have serious questions about how some of the resources are being used or not used at the r and C. But uh, you know, hopefully those things will change as we move forward and and maybe just maybe, you know, the RNC will be run by

a true America first person um in the next Republican administration. Well, and also I think people we all need to be paying as much attention to this stuff as we possibly can, because we We've seen what has taken place in this country over the past two years. I mean, they are hell bent on destroying this country, burning it to the ground, and throwing us all in jail. So it's like it's a little bit more important, you know that we are to talk about tax cuts or medicare or whatever else,

like this is really important. Yeah. No, this is the one thing that I you know, I see the Mike Pences of the world out there, and I'm thinking, you live in a world that doesn't exist anymore. I think he's stuck in two thousand six. And that's probably being generous. It feels like he's running on nighties zombie Reaganism, Like, bro, this world doesn't exist anymore, that party doesn't exist. We want people that will actually stand up inside of the

Republican Party. And first of all, Lisa, reject the premise. I think that's one of the things that more Republicans have to do, whether it's dealing with the corporate propagandists, whether it's dealing with maybe the CDC or all these No, you know what, I reject your premise. And until you prove without a doubt that somehow what you're saying to me is the truth. I don't believe you. Uh and and even more so, if you're gonna come at me,

I'm gonna go right back at you. And that's why you know Donald Trump run to Santa's, Blake Masters, JD, all these people that are coming and rising up through the America First Movement, It's about time we had more of this, and hopefully we're going to see a lot more of it moving forward. Well, I'm glad you said that because I actually had a question I wanted to

ask you in regard to that. And then, uh so Tucker last night did a segment about carry Lake, uh talking about how awesome she is because she is, but talking about how you know, she's really good at just dismissing these false premises. Trump was amazing at it to Santa's is really good. He you know, he's been incredibly successful doing the same thing as well. Do you think have have we been able to de legitimate delegitimize legacy media with us? I think that approached sinuing the trends.

I mean, if you saw that, I think it's even The Washington Post was asked asked the question, I don't think they expected this answer. What do you think is the greatest threat to democracy, and I think fifteen nine percent, if I'm remembering erectly said, the greatest threat to our democracy is is basically an illegitimate corporate media. So I think the American people are starting to realize more and mora,

although I don't think. First of all, let me be very clear, the corporate propagandists still have undue influence in so many different ways. Although I'm really starting to see the trends over the last six years of their own volition,

from their own behavior, they are delegitimizing theirselves. And then what Donald Trump and carry Lake and Rhonda Santis and others have been doing is just highlighting and pointing it out to the American people, to show the lies, to show the fake news, to show the false narratives that a lot of the corporate propagandists want to push. Because I don't think, Lisa, they have most of them do not have any desire and actually talking about the truth

and actually talking about facts. They're out there to drive and amplify a narrative that they find beneficial for themselves and their allies and the Democratic Party. Well, of course they're They're all liars, right, they slant or they smear, they lie, you know, they're all You've dealt with them.

I've dealt with them. I have noticed, and I think this is an end result of having what I call indoctrination centers of higher learning, in which a lot of those that have come out of you know, the university and college system have been taught what to think, not how to think. Critical plane isn't In short, supply, I would argue, and again this might sound harsh, but I'm gonna say it anyway, I would argue that the average i Q for the corporate propagandas has dropped considerably over

the last few years. Well, you're right, they don't critically think anymore at all. Like even on vaccines, they're just like, go out and get it. And I'm like, there's just no questions about, Oh, maybe we should have questions about why M or and A vaccines have been to the market like this before. Maybe we should raise the point that most vaccines have five to ten years like just

no no questions, just go out and get it. And if you don't get it, you're an anti vaxxer and you're evil and you want to kill Grandma or even or even more so, you know what the Steel dossier reads like basically the National Enquirer. Maybe maybe it's not true. Maybe we should actually ask questions, where did this come from? Is it legitimate? Does any of this actually make sense? Or is this just some basically fake dossier filled with sensational information that's meant to try and take down the

duly elect the President United States. And not only were some not asking the question, I think many probably did realized it was fake and continue to push it and hope they take out Donald Trump. Well, and it matters and and one. And what they did to to Donald I mean, they robbed him of a lot of opportunities, and he still was able to be really successful. But you know that does take a lot out of you if you're pushing back and having to spend all this

time on that. Yeah. No, I remind people, for four years, even for longer than four years before he was even sworn in, Donald Trump was under NonStop, relentless attack meant to really take him out. What he was able to accomplish in those four years, though, is nothing short of incredible. Knowing the real dynamics of what he was having to deal with on a day to day basis. So just you know, absolutely incredibly what he was able to accomplish.

I have to tell you, if if he had not been under attack, if obviously this whole COVID lockdown ridiculousness hadn't happened, if the corporate propagandist hadn't gone at him as strongly as they did, I think you would have won re election Handling. I think we'd be in a much much different, much better place as the country. Absolutely, I mean we they basically try to burn down the country. I mean it really is if who knows how many

illegal immigrants have entered this nation since the beginning. But you know what's really said to me too, as you see the media lie on just really important things like one cheerleading us into a war with Russia or secondly telling us that there's no big deal if you change a child's gender, which obviously can't happen you are what

God made you. Or you know, there's no ramifications of cutting a little boy's pianist off, or giving a little girl a double homosectomy, or giving kids puberty blockers which is irreversible, Like just no critical thinking with that or just taking a moment and being like, what are we doing to an entire generation of kids? I I I think, well, first of all, I've called the transgender movement Luciferian, in which it is people standing up and saying, I shall be like God. I will turn a boy into a

girl and a girl into a boy. I will be as God and do as I please. It's very Luciferian and it's it's approach. But I will say this, I think that it is causing a massive backlash. So in Virginia last year, obviously Glenn Uncan wins in a state that Joe Biden, by the way, one by ten points. The year before, Glenn Yuncan wins by two twelve point swing.

A lot of that started at the school board level, the parents revolt against some of the transgenderism, the critical race theory, some of the awful, awful books that are being put into school curriculum. The interesting thing I've seen Li said, So, not only do I think that influence how Virginia went last year, I think we might be seeing some of this stuff happening in other places, like,

for example, Michigan in Dearborn, Michigan. In the last couple of weeks, Muslims and Christians have united to go after local school boards over their woke curriculum, and I think that could influence the gubernatorial race up there and help Tutor Dixon, and I would remind people, dearborn Michigan is

sev Democrat, So this isn't about parties. This is about concerned parents, whether they're Democrats, independent, Republicans of all faith, all creeds, saying we're not going to allow you to push this truly demented and sick worldview onto our children. We're gonna push back. And I think Republicans are absolutely right and should be doing more of its standing up and saying we will be working on your behalf. We will defend your rights as parents to decide what is

being taught schools. And the more Republicans do that, the more victories they're going to see. Well, at that point, Chris Wilson, who had interviewed with w p A Intelligence the poster there, he said that the biggest movement they've seen has been with independent women for the very reasons that you just laid out. And I think we could

see some really interesting things on No. EM eight with voters that like typically would be like, I can't deal with the Republican Party, who are like, all right, I'm just gonna you know, we're going to go for this this time considering the alternative. Yeah, I totally agree. I think this is how you went back suburban moms, especially on the transgender issue. I can tell you you know

where I'm out in Western Loudon County, Virginia. You know, there are a lot of parents that spent a lot of time and money and effort on their daughter's athletic careers, and I think a lot of them have started to realize, wait a minute, if this transgender movement continues to accelerate,

my daughter has absolutely no letic future. So I think I think it's been kind of a startling wake up call in which they realize, if I truly care about my daughter in her future, I've got to find somebody that's actually going to help me fight against this transgender movement and push back. Well, it's not the Democratic Party, I'll tell you that much there are. They have bought in their wholesale for it. It's the Republican Party that's standing up and saying, hey, we're not gonna let let

this happen. And that's why I think you can win back a lot of suburban families by standing up on the transgender issue. Yeah. I mean, I played phild hockey and lacrosse in high school in Virginia, and my parents would be up in arms if if because it's just totally unfairly like. But but like you said, probably would disagree with Republicans on at least half of the issues, maybe probably even more, especially up here in western Lavan County.

But on this issue, it's kind of like, what's what's more important my daughter's future or whatever other issue, and they're gonna say it's my daughter's future. That's why I think even though it might be you know, disagreement on the majority of issues, they're gonna probably back Republicans on this issue along. So I mean, I was telling Donald Trump in this is a great wedge issue in the suburban areas. Wish he had played it up a little

bit more. But I think Glenn Yuncan and others have really fully understood Yeah we should actually because of what we're normal saying human beings for starters, But there's a real opportunity here just to simply stand up and say we're not gonna let this happen quick break more with ned.

It was just so interesting too, because we saw people take COVID lying down not you know, not everyone right like there were you know, we were fighting it and calling attention to all the lies that we were being told. But a lot of people really just took it. They accepted, Okay, I can't I gotta close my business or and I you know, and I didn't get it, but like or I have to stay home, or I have to wear

a mask or have to do this or that. And then it was like the second they started realizing their kids were being negatively impacted, that was when people started making some noise, you know, absolutely right. I remember this was probably March. I didn't to be honestly, so I didn't mind the first two weeks because again a lot of us are like, what's going on? Is this you know, the second coming of the Black Death, you know, the

Black Plague. After two weeks, though, I mean, I really made this is how I came to the conclusion this is nowhere near what I think it is, what people think it is. I made the argument of somebody who was texting me, who probably people would recognize the name.

Very conservative said what's up with all your boomer tweets on COVID, and I responded to him and said, you know, I have come to the conclusion that as the d o J and the FBI had become heavily politicized and heavily weaponized, I believe that the CDC and the n i H, who are all part of the same administrative state, have also become heavily politicized and heavy weaponized, heavily weaponized. And I reject the premise. I don't think that they are actually really First of all, I don't think they

know what they're doing. And second of all, I don't trust them. And quite frankly, that was March of and I think everything else has been We've been proven right those of us that were standing up early he said, we don't believe you. We reject the premise. You know,

I think it's horrifying. I mean, as you were alluding to earlier, the Florida Surgeon General saying between what eighteen and thirty five for young men increases massively and staggering, staggering, and now fives are coming out and saying, yeah that that shot really doesn't stop transmission. I mean, it's horrifying the social experiment that took place of the last two

and a half years. And I wish more people had stood up and said, now, I'm a free born American, I don't believe you, so no, I'm not going to submit to this. Well, it's really twisted, as they originally at the very very beginning said they didn't test for stopping transmission, and that wasn't really the consideration, and then

along the way they changed their tune. And I don't I personally think it's because they realized that young and healthy people would not get it unless they could shame them into thinking of some sort of public good that they were doing. Yeah, absolutely insane. It almost felt like a dry run of something like, how how much, how many, how what center to the population can we just get to submit to this, even though we really haven't given

him a whole lot of justification for doing this. Then, I have to tell you a little disturbing how much of American society was like, oh, that's great, Yeah, let's just lock down, let's damage our kids future, let's destroy small businesses, let's put ourselves into an economic situation. All of this that took place in America's like, yeah, it's fine, sure, we believe you. Like again goes back to whatever happened to critical thinking, like you know what, I'm gonna look

at these facts. I'm gonna look at these statistics. I'm gonna have a conversation and use common sense. And then when you go through that process, you like, yeah, no, I don't believe you. Oh my god that I saw this video on Twitter. I don't remember who posted it, who did it, but it's this guy in a mask. It looked like they're in New York and people are entering a building and he has a lit roller and

he and all these people walk up. If people haven't seen the video, so he's like basically pretending like he's security at the door entrance. The people come up, he gets them to open their arms and he lit rolls them and then he lets them walk and nobody asks a question that to me was like didn't you think it was kind of weird that somebody standing at the front door lent rolling you and nobody based off that video even bother to ask what are you doing? Why

are you doing this to me? And like what what role of authority do you have that gives you the right to actually do this. Nobody asked a question, they just submitted to it. This is we kind of created a We really have created a society of zombie sheep that they're just kind of going through the motions and it goes, it goes back to this hole. And again, this is a longer topic, we won't have to delve

too much into it. But we really have allowed our public education system to become indoctrination centers where it's you're taught what to think, not how to think, and you have to just just accept what you're being taught, but you're not really learning how to think critically on any level. And so it creates a zombie sheet mentality of well, this is a this is an authority, this is an educated elite, this is somebody who's an expert, and if they whatever they say must be true. So I could

completely shut off my mind. I do not even think about and examine what they've said. I just accepted because I've been told the experts are the oracles, they will tell us the truth, They're only there for our good, etcetera, etcetera, which is nothing but a lie. I wonder how much social media has played into all of that because I

believe it's the public shame that people have. I think with social media, becomes so accustomed to winning likes and to wanting to be accepted by like the larger population in a way that you didn't before because you had smaller sort of communities and you know, you're exposed to a smaller group of people, and so I think it's sort of created this like social contagion. Everyone's afraid of being shamed or called names. I have to be like everyone else in a way that maybe we didn't have

before in society. I would agree. I mean, first of all, I think it be better if most American people were simply unafraid of whatever they were being called. I've been called everything in the book. I mean, I've been called a racist, which is not even close to being the truth. But don't be afraid of what you're gonna be called. Speak to truth. So that's an important step. But on on big tech, I gotta tell you, I mean, I I love Twitter. Don't get me wrong, I'm kind of

addicted to it. If if you guys follow me on Twitter, I'm on Twitter way too much. It's not really a positive thing for our society that Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and TikTok and snap and all these other things have such a large role in our society and it's troubling, Lisa. And this is why I've I've argued for years we

need to break the monopolies up. I mean, if you if you believe in a free market mentality in which competition leads to the best products for individual people, you can't have that when monopolies dominate the marketplace like Google, like Amazon, like Apple even We've got to the thing that Republicans need to do moving full award is take a strong stance on on big tech and say we're not gonna We're not gonna let you continue in your current state, because I do think that they are an

existential threat to the future of the Republic for so many different reasons. And I think it's only above break up the monopolies, remove Section to thirty exemptions, all of these things. But if we allow big tech to remain as it is now and continue on the trajectory that it is, uh, it will not end well. I totally agree that I could talk to you forever. Unfortunately, have a flight to New York's. But we're only criminals are

allowed to have guns, so is there? Yeah? This has been so much fun, really smart conversation as always you always are ever every time I see you on it and talk to you. So I appreciate you joining. Anything else you want to leave us with before we go? Uh, you know what? You can follow me on Twitter, folks, it's any d r y u N. American Majority is is the entity I started will be fifteen years in January. We train people state in local POULI how to win

politics is policy? How do you actually win a seat so you can implement the right ideas? So American Majority dot org. Gosh what else? You can check on my books at Amazon Restoring Our Republic and the Adversaries. And I've got a new book coming out Lisa soon. It's called American Leviathan The Growth of the Administrative State and Rise of Progressive Authoritarianism. Awesome, I love it. Congrats my friend. Thanks so much for coming on. It was great to

catch up. Thanks Lisa, Okay, I have a great day you too. Than Brian, founder and CEO of American Majority, he was great. I wish I could keep talking to him, but I literally have to get to go get a flight to catch my flight to New York for Fox. Uh. I want to thank Drew Steele for stepping in for John Today and and producing this. Thank you for listening every Monday Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week and and please go to Apple Podcasts and leave us

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