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Taking on the Establishment with Kelly Tshibaka

Nov 07, 202226 minSeason 2Ep. 56
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Alaskans have the opportunity to elect a Republican to the Senate. Not a Lisa Murkowski Republican, but an actual one. Because of a 2020 ballot measure, Alaska now has a ranked-choice voting system which led two Republicans, Kelly Tshibaka and Lisa Murkowski, to square off in the general election. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has spent millions in the red state to boost Murkowski. So why is the establishment gunning for Kelly Tshibaka? She joins Lisa to talk about this and the importance of sending strong conservatives to the Senate. 

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So we've been talking on this show. We've done some interviews as of late about the midterm elections, vitally important midterm elections coming up on November eight. But you know that I don't have to tell you. You understand what is at stake as a nation, or values at stake, who we are as a country. Uh, protecting us from the weaponization of government and economy. I mean, Joe Biden killed the economy and we witnessed the murder. We're all witnesses,

so we all know what's at stake. We know that it's bad, we know that it needs to change. We know that we need to make our voices heard. You will know this. But if you're in Alaska, you also have a choice between two Republicans and that changes things too. I mean, we need to change the balance of power in the Senate. We need Republicans to win the majority, but we also need people who are going to go there and and aren't just Republican in name only right,

they're actually standing up for us. They share our value, they're willing to fight for us. And we know that's not Lisa Maurkowski. She says she's a Republican, but she voted to convict former President Trump and his second impeachment trial. She has voted with Joe Biden. She has endorsed the Democrat candidate who is running for Alaska's only House seat, the Democrat there in that race, She's voted for that individual. She has sold us out. She's not a Republican. She's

as much of a Republican as Liz Cheney. But if you're in Alaska, you have a choice. But if you're in Alaska, you have a choice. There's also Kelly Chebacca, and so you have a choice on November eight to send a Republican who's actually going to stand up for you, who actually is going to share your values. Kelly was the first person in her family to go to college and then to law school. Her parents were working class, They worked hard to provide a living for her, and

throughout her career she's worked a whole government accountable. She's worked in the Office of the Inspector General for the Department of Justice. She has worked as an advisor to the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community and various jobs

like that. So she's worked in these positions where she has witnessed how government does us wrong, how government fails us, and how we need to hold government accountable, which is kind of important if you look at what's been going on in the country when you look at that we have a Department of Justice that is targeting pro life Americans, as we've covered on this podcast, as we look at a Department of Justice that has targeted parents, a Department

of Justice, and an FBI that has targeted, for the first time ever, a former president basically over and overdue library book. So if there's ever a time to elect people that want the whole government accountable, now is that time. And so the reason why there are two Republicans running against each other in Alaska is because of this funky ballot measure to which was approved during the Alaska elections.

And so this is actually the first time that a state election and Alaska is going to be held under this new election process. And basically what it means is all candidates ran and a non partisan blanket taught for primary and that was on August six, two thousand twenty two, and then the top four candidates advance to the general election and voters will be using a ranked choice voting process during the general election. One of the other Republicans

who had emerged. Buzz Kelly had also advantaged the general election, but he suspended his campaign and actually endorsed Kelly Chebaca. Who are we gonna be talking to today? And we know Kelly is good because the people we hate hate her, or the people that we don't think are doing a good job hate her. Like Mitch McConnell, his Senate Leadership Fund is actually spent millions of dollars in attack ads against Kelly. He's been trying to boost Lee to Murkowski.

Why do we think that is because Lisa Murkowski is a reliable vote for Mitch McConnell, but also sadly, a reliable vote for Democrats as well. Yes, we have a choice this election cycle. We have a duty to win back the Senate as Republicans, to get a Senate majority again, get a House majority again, to get Republican governors in office, and Republicans around the country from the top of the ticket down. We have to do this. We need to

change the direction of the country. But if you're in Alaska, you have the opportunity to send a real Republican to Washington, d C. Not another list Cheney. So that's who we're going to talk to today, Kelly Chebaka running for Senate in the great state of Alaska. We've got Kelly Chebaka here running for se that in Alaska. You know, Kelly, the beautiful thing about your race is that we're going to have a Republican but with you, we'll get a

real Republican. Yeah, that's absolutely right. So in Alaska, Murkowski is such a bad Republican votes with Biden eighty percent of the time that our Alaska Republican Party censured her and removed her from membership before I ever announced my race. They said Murkowski is not our candidate. We're just looking for somebody else. And so the race has now come down to a head to head between me and Murkowski. Because the election system in Alaska is a little bit different.

We have a ranked choice system. The polls are saying we're tied fifty fifty. It's a tight race. Alaskans are going to get to decide, and of course the determination that the voters make will affect the outcome of the nation because so many times Murkowski's vote is one that affects the outcome of the nation. The establishment is with her from Biden to McConnell. McConnell's flooding our state with millions of dollars outside dark money to try and pull

for Murkowski. But Alaskans are definitely on a movement to try and get her out of the seat because I think we don't want a senator who's bought and bullied by the establishment in DC. We want our Laska voice represented. I'm confident we're going to win on November eight, and it's going to mean a big difference for the country. Well, and McConnell's spending money against you is incredibly frustrating because

the balance of the Senate hags in power. Right we we he needs to be spending money helping Blake Masters get over the finish line, uh, you know, or getting Don Bulldock in New Hampshire across the finish line, not spending money against you a Republican. That's absolutely right, Lisa. We know that he actually pulled money from those other races to come up here and try and get his

friend Makowski across the finish line. That means that we could lose the majority in the Senate, so Mitch McConnell can make sure he preserves his role as Senate minority leader. He's more interested in maintaining a minority he can control than ensuring we have a majority that Mitch McConnell can't control, in one that he might not be the leader of.

That is not the best interests of Americans or of common sense Republican values, and it will come at the harm of all of us because of this decision he's made. And it's also a direct defiance of the will and determination of the Republicans here in Alaska. The Republican Party didn't start in Washington, d C. It started in grassroots America's people coming around common values. So this directly the five government of the people, by the people, for the people.

It's more of a result of these politicians and establishment people in d C. Biden, McConnell, Murkowski, all of them telling us people out here in America what's best for us. You know, their quality of life goes up, our cost of living goes up, and this is what we're tired of. We want to take our country and we want to lead it forward. Why do you think he's so invested in helping Lisa Murkowski, Because I know that. I think the reason is he knows he can control her vote.

The Exchange comments to the media when he said he was going to invest seven to nine million in this race, he said, Murkowski is a vote that we can depend on, a reliable vote. I think that means a reliable vote for McConnell as leader and reliable but when he needs her. She voted with McConnell and Biden on extreme gun control and red flag laws earlier this year. That goes against the values of Alaskans. Even Democrats carry guns up here.

But I also think that that he knows that I'm not one of those votes, is going to just do whatever McConnell wants. I have a long career of holding government insiders accountable and exposing waste, fraud, and abuse. I won't be bullied, silenced, or controlled by the DC insider establishment. But I think that's all McConnell is really concerned about. Lisa mccowski has become part of the DC establishment. She's

an insider through and through well. But she's also supported Democrats, and I mean she's voted for Biden's Interior Secretary, Deb Howland. She's also endorsed the Democrat candidate who's running for Alaska's only House seats, so you know it's not even like a vote for the establishment Republicans. I mean, she's working with Democrats, that's absolutely right. I'm not confidence that Mitch McConnell is sold out on a Republican agenda. I mean,

I've asked this question before. Can anyone tell me what Mitch McConnell and as leader of the Republicans, wants to accomplish in the next two years or four years. I saw him give the Democrats the grain light to raise the debt ceiling. It seems like we're the ones as Republicans in the Senate who are always bending over and giving the Democrats whatever they want. And so I'm not confident that Mitch McConnell is actually looking out for Republicans

and our platform and our interests. I think Mitch McConnell's looking out for himself. Remember, all these people are friends, and they love to go to their little social parties and Washington d C. Social circuits. But what are we actually advancing as a Republican party as platform values. It's time for Americans with courage and common sense to rise

together and leave this nation forward. I think that's a real direct threat to McConnell and what he's looking out for, which is me myself and I You know, you talked about a lot of the work you've done and holding government accountable. So you've done work in the Inspector General's Office for the Department of Justice, or the Inspector General's Office overlooking the intelligence community. Through that work that you've done, what did that teach you about government? What should people

know about how government operates? Well, one thing that's exciting is government can be good. Government can be for us in there are ways to get the bureaucracy to work and vend it's me to the will of the people. And that's what I've developed expertise in. I will be the only one of the hundred senators who has worked from the bottom up to senior management, always in a

watchdog role, making government more efficient and effective. I've been able to return billions of dollars to taxpayers and streamline operations, make things work effectively. And when we walk in on day one, last skill have a senator has thousands of law enforcement officers and lawyers and auditors that will be able to use embedded in Biden's bureaucracy to start getting these agencies and departments to work for Alaska in America,

not against us. None of the other senators have that experience, knowledge and ability, and that will be a really great asset for us. The other thing I think I learned, and this is what got me to pursue this as a career and not just as a first job. If you don't have people like me making government work for us, it's not always for us, Lisa. One of my first cases was an allegation against FBI and Department of Justice officials that they abused Americans and violated their rights. In

the case have been closed. Allegations were not substantiated, they didn't do it, and I was assigned to just review the report and put it out. And I went to my boss and said, there's some loose threads here, and he said, well, you reinvestigate it, and I did. I got an agent to turn against the other agents. I found evidence that they tried to destroy, and the case went all the way to the US Supreme Court. It

turns out they did do it. And that's when I realized, if you don't have people in like me in here, it won't be bullied and won't be bought by the establishment, government can get away with everything. And that's why I decided to make it my career. I want to make sure government works for the people and not against us, and so I dedicated my career to this, and that's what I'm trying to do here for Alaska and the U. S.

Senate makes this work for us, not against us. Well, And Kellett's a real concern for so many Americans right now is I mean a lot of people we fear the government right and when we've seen them target parents the d o J and calling them domestic terrorist. We've seen former the president Trump for the first time in American history, uh, the FBI reading a former president's home. We've see what they're doing to Steve Bannon simply for not responding to a subpoena when air holder can do

whatever he wants and that's not a big deal. So we've really arrived at this point where Americans fear government. How do you think we got here? One part of it is I don't think Congress is really doing the job it could do in its oversight Authority. Article one section makes clear in the Constitution it's Congress's job to hold the executive branch accountable these inspector general offices that I worked in. They have a role to play as

internal affairs within the departments. However, fundamentally, um Congress is supposed to be the check and balance on the executive branch, and so many times it seems that they're distracted with other things. Hopefully it as gently as we can, and but they're not actually doing the job of budgeting in government and reigning in their authorities when there's an abusive authority.

For example, we have a senior position on the Appropriations Committee with Makowski right now, but in the last twelve years, they haven't only passed one appropriation still on time. They've now gotten in the habit of just passing continuing resolutions, budgeting same budget last year, same budget last year. It's like giving your teenager a fifty dollar bill for allowance every year for every week and saying I don't only care what you're doing, I don't really care what you

spend it. You're gonna have a runaway teenager and you have a runaway of bureaucracy. It's Congress's job to protect us. They're supposed to be the defense line for the Constitution and protecting the people, and I think it's times they get back to really focusing on doing the fundamental basics of the job. Quick break back with Kelly Chebaca running

for Senate in Alaska. So many Americans right now are feeling the financial pain of the Biden administration, Like the intentional decisions the Biden administration has made to horror Americans financially and the pain that their experienced. And I was reading about your background. So your parents were homeless for a little while, and they really fought their way to build a better life for for you guys and for your family. You were the first person in your family

to go to college and then law school. I think one of the biggest problems with d C right now, there's a lot of these guys and and you know women in instance of Murkowski, they're immune to the policies that they're implementing. But with your background, it seems like you would understand a lot of the suffering that's going onto the country right now. Talk a little bit about that, at least I think you put it well. Energy policy and economic policy, Um, this is all family policy and

worker policy for us right now. You're absolutely right, My parents story is very close to home, and for a lot of US Alaskans, you can't go from you know, place of poverty into the fighting in the working class under the economic um burden that the Biden administration is

placed on this and Murkowski's helps with that. They've added five trillion to the national debts since Biden has been president, and Murkowski has enabled that and voted for trillions of that in spending that really hurts our pocketbooks in Alaska. We're eating the food that we canned and caught and killed because we have to. And no other state in the nation has been targeted for shutdown like the Biden administration,

and Murkowski has enabled that. Like you said, she cast the tie breaking vote for the radical environmentalists in Biden's administration who has completely sabotaged our economy and killed our jobs. And we are feeling it. And when you don't understand the consequence of the votes that you're making, you don't

understand that politics is personal. Is personal for us out here and the real world living it on the ground, and we're not looking for politicians, We're looking for public servants, the people who understand that you're supposed to serve us and make things easier and better for us, and not just do what makes you popular in DC with your friend Joe Biden or your friend Mitch McConnell. And we're tired of paying the price for Murkowski's popularity in DC.

We're looking for someone who's going to make life easier and better for us and not send us backwards and make things harder. How much damage has Joe Biden done to Alaska's energy industry. I don't even think we could quantify it. I mean, it's it's devastating. I get these texts all the time. People can't pay for gas and groceries this week. We are terrified about how we're going to pay for our heating in our homes. And I'll

feed our kids this this winter. We I mean where I am right now, about on a two week road trip um doing Galt to Vote rallies and stopping in diners and knocking on doors in every community. I'm about to go knock on bars right now in a little town called Delta Junction. It's nine degrees and it's October. We haven't even hit the dead of winter yet, but we have had our industries completely shut down. Oil and

gas and mining and timber. We don't have fish running in our our rivers and streams, and we live off the fish to feed our families. Everything is shut down and and it's we're in a panic at this point, Lisa, that's how bad it is. But again, the decisions that are being made up here by the Biden administration are being made by these radical nominees that have been firmed by our senator. And that's what hurts is it was our senator and our leader who made these decisions. It

feels like a complete betrayal. And this affects all of America. You see in Alaska, our oil and gas it could power America, and our minerals that can advance America. And stead we're going over to China. Our our timber and our logs can build America. Our fish can feed America. Our national security posture, we're able to protect America. Of course,

our tourism inspires America. But we are not able to do any of that when the Biden administration has shut us down with twenty six direct executive actions leveled at us to harm us and sabotage our economy, crush our families, and you know, kill our jobs and workers. We can't do any of that without bold leadership in d C that won't be silenced and won't be bullied by this

Biden administration. This Senate seat affects every person in America because I believe Alaska is the foundation for a strong America. And that's the thing. I mean, Republicans we need to win back the Senate, but we also need Republicans who are going to hold the Biden administrations feed to a fire, because you know, what's the point of having a Republican in name only if they're if they're not getting the job done, or they're not going to stand up for

Alaskans or Republicans around the country as well. Yeah, that's absolutely right, and we've got to have a defense line. If you will this looking out for America first, and if your listeners want to help, I'm at Kelly for a k dot com. We need all the help we can get. Every little bit will help in these last couple of days because it's it's all boots on the ground at this point. We can win this Fennessy, And they're saying the sentence is going to be close to tide,

and this this seat is often the deciding vote. You know, she opposed Brett Kavanaugh, and she joined the Democrats and filibustering Amy Coney Barrett. But she was one of those key votes hit to get Biden's Kitangi Brown Jackson over the finish line. And these are just appalling votes for us. These are not in line with Alaska values. Definitely not helpful for America. First once she voted to impeach Donald

Trump as well. Uh, you know, Americans are also just saying our values attacked as a country and just the way of life change that what we believe in who we are as a society. I mean, we see Democrats cheering on the mutilation of children. Uh no longer is their stance on abortion safe, legal and rarer. They support abortion up until the moment of birth. Just the indoctrination of kids and a lot of these schools. So what are your thoughts and just where we stand as a

country from a value standpoint. I think there's uh, it seems to be like a value battle kind of raging. But it's it seems to be prompted by people who are just trying to divide us. When I'm out, you know, knocking doors and talking to real Alaskans. I don't actually see that much division in society, and in real society,

we actually agree on most things. It seems like there's a concerted effort by people who are given a lot of media attention and a lot of microphone in an attempt to divide us and split up into camps and teams. And then what I see is this um, this politics

of division. It then leads to so much um concerned and chaos and confusion that they then are able to swoop in with a large government solution, and it sort of then feeds into this momentum, this leading towards the socialist movement or this communist movement, And I don't think that's pro America at all. I think we are as a country united in our diversity. That's what the United

States is supposed to be about. We're allowed to have freedom of speech and freedom of ideas, and we're supposed to have diversity and even differences, but differences doesn't need to be division and discord and hatred, and so I don't really ascribe to any of that. I don't really ascribe to this um affinity that I'm seeing for discrimination and what they seem to be promoting that you know that we're going to protect some rights at the expense

of other people's rights. I don't really like any of that that we're seeing, and I don't see how here in every day America and every day Alaska, and so I really think it's time for us to have some leaders that stand up and really demonstrate and model that and push against it, even though I'm I see it

coming at a cost. It because coming at a cost in our campaign, but I'll also see that we have the momentum with us that there's more of us standing up and saying that one of the Democrats who is running on our ticket for U. S. Senate, he's come behind us and endorsed me for Senate and his campaigning

with us because of this. There are so many more things that we agree on than that we disagree on, and we don't have to be divided in order to maintain our differences, but also say there's common purposes that we all can actually unite towards. Similarly, people remember the infamous Murkowski right in campaign led by one of our rural Alaska natives. She's not a Republican and she's one

of the co chairs on our campaign. UM, I think that there's new ways that people can kind of boldly lead us forward in that that amazing tradition we started as America to say we are United States of America. We can be different but still united, and I think that's the direction I'd like to take us. But I do believe we need to be united and protecting children.

I mean, the cultural issues are deeply important to me because I believe that they are what defined us as a society and who we are as a nation, of what our values are as a country. And I think that the most important thing is to protect the most vulnerable, which our children. Yeah. Absolutely, As the mom of five kids, all school age, I totally agree with you. And our children are very impressionable. And the people who should have the most to say and what goes into our children's

formation is the parents. I would support creating a national bill of rights for parents that all parents are protected and what their kids are exposed to. And ideological indoctrination in schools, I don't really see a place on it. I think our school should really be focusing on the basics, reading, writing, arithmetic, and here in Alaska that's really critical right now. At least are Our current literacy rates are dropping below statewide for our children in Alaska, and our math proficient and

see rates are covering at that same level. We don't really have time for our teachers to be focusing on other things. We really need to get back to the basics so that our kids are competitive and at least have a fighting chance of successful life and adulthood. We want them to be fully functional and literate. I agree with that. And uh, you know, our school should be focused on teaching children, not trying to, you know, in doctrinate them and or try to get them to change

their gender. Uh, Kelly Travaka, anything else you want to leave us with before we go? I've I've been on the campaigner before. I know how busy you are and how crazy it is right now and the home stretch. Anything you'd like to leave us with. I believe that the choice in every ballot box this November it breaks downing this. You've got to decide who you stand with.

Are we going to stand with the American people and the families that are suffering and the workers that are being crushed that's one candidate, or are you're going to see in with Joe Biden and the radical environmentalists and the special interest that have ties to this White House. That's your other candidate. It's just that simple. In Alaska, I'm the candidates. It's out there knocking on the doors of these families and shaking hands with these workers and

funded by these grassroots Alaskans that are suffering. And Lisa Mankowski is the one who's been standing with Joe Biden, who confirmed these radical environmentalists, and who is funded by all this special interest dark money coming into our state. That's how our race is breaking down. But I'll tell you, Lisa, every voting booth across the nation has the exact same choice.

And I am just believing that Americans are going to make the right choice and that we're going to lead our country forward with people who care about America and our workers and our families. So November eight, there's going to be a strong statement from Americans and this is a country of the people, by the people, for the people. And I still believe that range No, I agree it's time to take the country back. Kelly, thanks so much for joining the show. Good luck to you. Thanks so much.

I meant Kelly Freak dot com if people want to learn more, I'll talk to again. Lisa. By bye. M h. That was Kelly to blacka running for the Alaska Sentence Week down to either her early summer counsel. So if you're an Alaska and you're listening, she was wise saying that it's up to you, but we need Republicans who are actually gonna fight for us and share our values. Thanks so much for listening to the show. I want to thank Drew Steele for stepping in and helping out today.

And I want to thank you at home for listening every Monday and Thursday. But you can listen throughout the week. And I always love reading reviews. If you don't mind going Apple podcasts and just letting us know what you think. Take care of guys,

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