Parenting in a Crazy World with Karol Markowicz

She's so smart. You have to read her columns in the New York Post. She also writes for Fox News as well. You see her on TV quite a bit. And she really stood so strong during COVID because she's a mother of three and she saw what was happening to her kids in New York City schools, and she said, you know what, I've had enough. I'm tired of the masking. I'm tired of the treatment of kids, you know, not

allowing kids to be able to go into schools. And so she really spoke out a lot about it, wrote a lot of columns when on TV talking about really trying to draw attention to the fact that what was happening to kids there and so many other places around the country is wrong. That was really why she ended up moving her family, her and her husband and her three kids to Florida, of seeking normalcy for her kids, just seeking a different environment. So she she writes a

lot about that as well. So we're going to get into a whole host of issues talking about that move, sort of what seems like this war and children that's happening in the country, why the left seems to hate the idea of marriage so much, the idea of having children so much. She she recently wrote a column about these climate zealots that are encouraging people not to have kids. So we're going to get into that. Also some of

the cultural rot that is happening in the country. She immigrated here, her family immigrated here from the Soviet Union, So also talking about from her perspective, are we still free as a country. So much to get into, and also just fun for me to have a friend, a friend I deeply respect and love on the show as well, So tune in Carol mark Witz Co marc O. Wits

awesome to have you on. We're friends and You're awesome and one of the beautiful things about living in Florida is the fact that we become friends and that we've met high Lisa, thank you so much for having me. And yes, I'm becoming friends with Lisa Booth right up there for like the top things to happen to me in the last year. Oh, that wouldn't that be hilarious? If I was like, we're friends? Are wet? I would be really sad. I'm like, yeah, we're such good friends

and You're like, no, we are legitimately friends. You are one of my favorite people and really a highlight of the last year. Seriously, Well, I feel the same about you, and we are so lucky to be Floridians. But I know the move here was a big one for you because you grew up in Brooklyn, so you are like a New York or through and through. Talk a little bit about the decision making behind that and why you decided to pull the trigger. Yeah, so it's really for

my kids. We have three kids, and I think all the time that like, if we didn't have kids, maybe we would have just struggled through living in New York. We thought that New York was in a really bad state because of COVID because of quote restrictions, not because of COVID the virus, because of the stupid ways that they reacted to the virus. And it was a really hard place to live. Um, I didn't see that my kids lives were going to become more normal in the future.

And I feel like, even though, for example, they dropped masking in schools, it's still the case. I still hear from people all the time in New York whose I haven't been inside my child's classroom. Meanwhile, we got here in January, and I was in my kids classroom like a few weeks later, and it was such a shock to my system because I had forgotten that this is normal life is like you go to your kids classroom,

you read the Kids with the Kids of book. Um, that's unheard of in so many places around the country still, and in places like New York. So we got out to save our kids childhoods and to give them a normal life. I'm glad you differentiated between saying no, it wasn't COVID, it was the policies, because you've got all these people, you really, Carol, You've got all these people in charge, and they're like, oh yeah, COVID did this to you, and it's like, no, you did you know?

It's like no, no, it was you. And I think there's also a distinction in New York um between like the people who stayed in twenty like the people who got out like March, who were afraid of the virus. That wasn't us. We were not the people that got out in because we were afraid of virus. We got out. You know, it took until two to make a permanent move, but we actually did. Like a Florida testeron in one where we lived in an area called Palm Beach Gardens,

which I had never even heard of before. We literally looked up like best public schools in Florida that were open at the time and the New York schools were not, and moved her kids down for five months to give them again some sense of normalcy. Um. So, you know, we were the ones who got out because the restrictions did not end, not because of the sirens at night, or because we were afraid, or because we lived in a small space or any of those reasons that people

left early on in the pandemic. What kind of impact has moving to Florida had on your kids. Oh yeah, they're like blossoming. I mean, it's really amazing to watch. And it was hard, you know. I don't like to give people the illusion that, oh, it was so super easy. We just moved and everybody was thrilled. No, my older two really struggled with it because they were, you know,

already had kind of their lives established in Brooklyn. My older one, my daughter, she was already like leaving the house and going to the Prospect Park and like getting dumplings with her friends and like just living like a preteen existence where she had a lot of freedom and she had a group of friends. And my middle son also had made you know, he ever had close friends and he didn't want to leave them. Um. My youngest was like Florida man since day one he got here.

Everybody plays all the sports. He plays all the sports. You couldn't be happier. But it took a while for the older two to adjust. And so it really was a few months in that we started to see a real change in them and how happy they are and how normal their lives aren't, how how much less I have to worry about so many things. I mean, I

still worry, like don't get me wrong. I don't think like Florida has no wokeness in their schools, but they have so much less And it's like so many things that you know, Governor de Santis has implemented in schools has helped so much where I don't have to be concerned that my first raider is going to have gender ideology pushed on him. And so small better changes have

made such a difference. And I was losing sleep. I really was in New York about what kind of childhood my friends my kids were going to have and moving them to Florida. I sleep so much better well, And it's like we're so lucky because Florida just it still seems normal, right, like in a time where like the rest of the country seems to be on fire and there's chaos and you know, crazy way of thinking. It's

just like it's just a place of normalcy. Yeah. The normalcy is like something it's impossible to describe to people who just have not had it. And I was one of those people who had really never had normal life before, Like I mean something silly, but like we moved, um, so we got the Florida and we rented and then we bought um and then we finally moved in in August, and like neighbors on both sides of us have brought us over food. I mean, that has never happened to

me in New York City. I mean, you know, I always said New Yorkers were great and they were really good people, and it wasn't like I you know, I I never thought New Yorkers were bad. But it's kind of a complete different thing here where your neighbors will greet you with, you know, muffins when you move into

the neighborhood that that has never happened before. And you look at what's happened to children during all this, particularly COVID children are really bad, brunt of a lot of it in terms of being not able to go to schools, having to force mass, missing those development milestones, falling behind in school, like forcing vaccines on them. And then you know, I know you've recently written about some climate zealas who are encouraging people not to have children. It almost seems

like kids are under attack in America. Why is that? That's absolutely right, and I think we need to be so on guard for that because that is what's happening. Um, and I don't say this lightly. I really I've looked into this so much and it's it really is a targeting of children and family that is unprecedented in this country. And I think we need to take a really seriously. I mean the climate column that you mentioned, these climate zealots are saying, don't have too many kids because they're

bad for the environment. And meanwhile, you know they're taking vacations on airplanes. You know that they're air conditioning in their house. You know they're probably flying private for all we know. Um And then they're being their lives and they're saying to us, you know, don't have kids. Well, you know, why don't you limit the way that you're living instead of limiting how many people we make? And when when they say that, it's always they always have children.

It's always like they themselves have one child and they've decided that's the right amount and you shouldn't have anymore. UM. So I see all of this as one thing, as an attack on just the idea of family and on American children. I know you had recently tweeted about your son wanting to do a YouTube channel teaching other kids

about history, which is so sweet. And innocent, um. But like, we do live in this weird social media age, so how hard is it to navigate that as a parent and you have just this this age that we live in. So it's funny because my my daughter, I'm much less worried about her, even though she's the pre teen um and she's the one that I think, you know, I should be worried about with social media, but she's got such a good head on her shoulders, and I really

just don't see. She's not that interested in social media. She kind sees it as something like us old stud um, So so right right there, she's not that interested. But the middle son um, the one that you mentioned, he's

really into history and he's nine years old. He doesn't have an outlet for it, so he hasn't met other kids who are like I want to talk about Napoleon, and I feel for him, and he's like the Internet it's right there, and I can meet all these people and I could, I could have these conversations with other kids. And it's scary because I want it for him. I want to give him this outlet, but I know I know the damage this causes. So it has been a point of you know, contention in our house where we

haven't let him do it. We haven't let him start this YouTube channel. He keeps saying like, oh, it'll just be my voice, it won't be you know, a no video or anything like that, not his real name or anything like that. Um. But still I haven't been able to let him pull the trigger on it because I know what's out there, right, I know the kind of hateful comments that um I get or other people get, and I don't want my nine year old exposed to that.

So it's been it's been a balancing act. Do you want to let them use the internet that that let them kind of like discover a whole new world, but also want to tap them from it? You know. Part of it is like, oh that's so sweet, you know, it's it's challenging. Uh, you know. But what's weird though, is there really is you know, we kind of talked about the war on on kids, but really like this war on marriage, this war on family. Why do you why is the left so opposed to marriage and and

and children and having a family. I really think it's a it's a sense of control. So you know, I was born in the Soviet Union, and one of the things you weren't allowed to have obviously in the Soviet Union was religion. And it's it's because if you have something else that you turn to, if you have your family that you turn to, this it can't be first. And I know it sounds crazy, but it's not crazy

like that. There is an authoritarian streak through the left where they want you to focus on the state and they want you to belong to the state. So I really do think that the family and children and shoul appear with that because you know, a good you know subject will not have anything above the state. And that's what you know to talitarianism mean nothing above state. And you can't be that if you're a mother, and you can't be that if you're married, because you put other

people first. So I really believe that's why I think that the people who have um you know, families or relationships are harder to control, and all of that is a way of limiting how many people we associate with outside of the prescribed state, you know, apparatus and Carol, I don't want to have kids and I'm not married. I'm very hard to control, so you can you imagine me with children and got oh, I know, got to help us all, you know. But also I you know,

I am. I am on the lookout for a good match for Lisa Booth because I think you're phenomenal all and I would love to see married with children. I think you're going to be an incredible wife and an amazing mother. I need to find a very patient man. So you know, we're taking application guys. So you know, you talked about you know, I know your your family. You guys celebrate when you immigrated here to the United States. You're a mirror versity where we're trying to find ever

ever written down. What's the date, Oh, July July, America, very yeah, julyne that's right. And looking at sort of where we are now with what happened during COVID. Also what we're learning with the Twitter files about this sort of collusion between government and big tech to silence UH speech in America, Like how you know, having your perspective of having come here, how free are we as a country?

So remem for a few years ago where that story broke, how the i r S was, you know, how the government was using the I r S to target conservative groups that they don't like, that was such a moment in my Russian community, and I see Russian, but it's actually just it's all the ex Soviet republics, I know, you they just Russian anymore, Like you know, most my community were probably from Ukraine or Belarus or you know,

Kazakhstan or any of the ex Soviet republics. Um. So my community heard that story and they were like, well, obviously, obviously they're using the i rs to target people they don't like. That makes so much sense. That's clearly what's happening here. And so it seems so um obvious to them. And yet like Americans are, you know, very upset about it, the obviously conservative Americans more so than anybody else. And they were shocked at that kind of behavior. And it's like,

how much less shocked are we today? How much less shocked are we that the FBI was paying Twitter to be able to kind of operate however they wanted to. And it's sad and it's really scary to watch America go down this path. I still think we are the greatest hope for the world. I really do. I think there's nowhere else even comparable. And whenever I think about whenever anybody says America's over or America's you know, just forget it, it's done. I always think, like, there's nowhere

else to go. So we have to fight these people here. We have to fight for this country here, and we have to win, because again, there's no Plan B. There's no other country where we can be like, oh, there, they will treat us fairly, and they will you know, be somewhere that we can live. There's nowhere else for us to go. List so we gotta fight for it here, Carol.

I was reading this story and we covered it when I was on Fox over the weekend of the students at this private university who are occupying a campus building demanding that they're given all a's, And it just kind of speaks to this broader, you know, cultural rot that we're facing in the country, like this lack of consequences, this desire to have everything for free, just you know, just this broader cultural rod that I think we're all feeling as Americans right now. How do we fix that?

So it has to start at home. I I can't imagine my children demanding an A for something that the ay didn't deserve. I cannot picture that at all, UM, but you know it is again back to Florida. I have seen a difference in the way kids are treated in Florida in schools, and they are saying New York UM.

Like something simple like my daughter was chosen last year to take algebra in seventh grade, which is rare, and she was presented with this invitation in the middle of class, her and a couple of other kids, and I just feel like in New York it would have been like, well, it would be sent quietly to the parents, so nobody's feelings got hurt and you kind of have to start that that feeling of like not succeeding and that being

okay early. I think kids need to understand that if you work hard, you will succeed at these things, and if you don't, then you won't UM, and that not everybody wins, and not everybody wins all the time at everything. So I love the idea, and maybe this exists in

other places. I only have Florida, New York to compare it to UM, but I love the idea of kids kind of seeing who UM win a prize in class, or who has succeeded in you know, math or in science or something like that, and and wins kind of recognition for that, because that will lead to understanding and being accepting of the fact that not everybody wins in this participation trophy era that we are going through needs to end and we need to move on to um

rewarding actual success by stormber. Like when I was learning to ride a bike, my grandfather who has now passed, taught me. And he's like a World War two guy, like navy, you know, toughest nails, grew up poor, pulled himself up from the bootstraps type type guy. And I fell off and was like profusely bleeding, and he like made me get on the bike and continue to learn.

How do you know he was just like suck it up, like or what I mean, Like, I feel like we need a little bit more of that of just you know, suck it up. Butter Cup, Yeah, you don't have to get over it and you have to move on. Resiliency is so important. Um I think that, you know, kids are not taught how to be resilient or how to receive bad news or bad information. I just feel like they collapse when they do, and that is so damaging. It's just we're raising a generation that can't handle anything

negative happening to them. And it's just there's so many memes and jokes about this, where you know, a Generation Z person will say that they like took to their bed after they got criticized at work, like a little bit. We can't live like that. We can't let this go on. Like resiliency is so important and teaching kids resilience has

to be at a top priority for us as a culture. Well, you know what, I worry we're gonna end up with surgeons who don't really know how to perform surgery or you know, and like pilots that don't know how to fly and eat, you know what I mean? Because yeah, but the but they fit like the hiring standards right, like they needed a woman, so they got a woman and now you know, hopefully she knows what she's doing,

but maybe she doesn't. Why should have really cashed in when being a woman was like all the rage, you know what I mean? Well, now it's like we can't even define it. So you know, like now that that should kind of sale, but they way like during the meat too stuff, I should have just really been like I am a woman hearing me or give me an opportunity, you know what I mean, Like that was the time to strike. And yeahs Now, women are the worst, like

if we even defined them. Right now, we're in this like chaotic place where they can't even tell us what a woman is or what a man is. It's very bizarre. It's amazing. I mean, since woman obviously the rock bottom wars, everybody else is like second wars to that. Yeah, so I'm definitely on the bottom, you know, of no no respect. First of all, how awesome as governor to Santa Yeah, he's pretty good, that guy. Huh, Like, I've never lived anywhere that I was proud of my leadership before. Um. Yeah,

it's been amazing watch in him in action. Um, it's I'm proud of my governor. I'm proud of the state that he has steered and the work that he has done. And I you know, I feel very thankful, very very

thankful to live in such a sane place because of him. Well, he's also just brave and bold, which at a time of cowardice, you know, like why you know, we look at Republicans, especially on Capitol Hill, constantly selling out their base, selling out conservative why do you think Republicans, even more than the left sometimes seems to be, you know, full

of a lot of cowards. What a good question. Um So, I think there's a lot of things going on, But one of the main things is that the corporate media is mostly on the left, and they love seeing their name in print and they want to be liked, and it's just it's the kind of person that gets into politics tends to like flattery, and the media will give it to you if you do what they want, and they won't give it to you if you don't. So

I really think those two things are intertwined. The idea that, um, these Republican politicians are looking for approval from a media that largely despises them, um, and they just won't accept that. They have to keep fighting for that positive mention in the New York Times or on the Washington Post. And it's hard to watch because I think it betrays us in so many ways. And I would love to see more bravery. I mean, one of the main things for me with this new house is I really want to

see hearings about COVID nineteen response. But I feel like Republicans are just not going to go for it. They're not going to do it, and they're not going to hold people like Anthony Faucci accountable. And so when you talk about Ronda Santis is bravery. If he were in the house, you could see him confronting Faucci, right, You could see the kind of questions he would ask that would be smart and pointed and and really get to

the bottom of things. But we just we don't have that kind of leadership in a lot of Congress, and it's disappointing. It is this appointing. And you had mentioned the media, and you know, one of the pillars obviously to living in a free society, if the most important, which is why the First Amendment is first, is the ability to speak freely, the ability to you know, have

a free flow of information. And we have a media that is really a sort of engaging in a behavior that we see in like communist countries or authoritarian countries where there isn't this questioning of authority. They're you know, they're basically just propagandists. How what kind of impact do you think that's having on the country, and how concerned does that make you. It's one of my top concerns.

Um I just think that the way that conservatives deal with the media is all wrong, Like we we are conservative media because we are conservatives in the media, but then they're not the liberal media or they're not the leftist media. I actually like using liberal media, even though I know like when I when I use it, people say like, oh, they're not liberal. You know, liberalism is something else. It's like, okay, but people know what I'm

saying when I say liberal media. They're activists for the left, and I think that they need to be defined as such all the time. There was that piece recently in Semaphore about um Governor to Santis not sitting down with unfriendly press outlets so good, Why should he? Why should he sit down with the view Why should he sit down with any of these people who clearly hate him and want to destroy him and give them an interview

for what um so? I think the Republicans and you know, in specifically, but conservatives in general need to have a different outlook on this media and they need to not treat them maybe not need to not get so excited when when the media is on their side briefly about something or they know they need when they highlight the New York Times like agreed with something that people in

the right I've been saying all along. It's just it gives them more power, and it makes them seem like they're they're the you know, arbiters of truth, and there really really aren't. And they is a huge issue for our country that the media that it's supposed to be unbiased is not just biased, they're deeply biased. Their activists. They are the liberal media, and they have a perspective and they're trying to push an agenda. I we need

to stop listening to them. I mean, that's the thing is it's all, you know, agenda driven, and it's not rooted in the truth. And there's also like no interest in getting to the truth. As we saw during COVID, everyone was just pushing the same narrative without question. Uh So it is sort of a scary time that we're in. And then also you know, now they're they've also been trying to chip away at the Second Amendment, which is also concerning the Second Amendment. Though I feel like I

feel like things have shifted in the country. I think like the George Floyd rights were a major shift of this, But I think like I keep seeing and especially I see this a lot in my own Jewish community, UM, where I feel like gun ownership and gun rights have become such a mainstream for everybody issue, and I it has so much more support now than I ever did before.

So the media might be trying to dial it back, but it's too late that you know, the horse has left the barn and Americans have realized that gun ownership is a good thing for them. Why do you think, you know, I think a lot of us or I know I was you know, overly confident heading into the mid term elections. I like to joke around that I got out of the political prognosticating game after this last mid term elections. But was it the mail and ballot thing?

Was it messages? Why did uh we end up coming up short when it comes to the Senate? Um? So, and I know you know you and I are on a on a group chat where we talked about this so much. So. UM the races were really close. They could have gone either way. But I think that one of the things that I saw coming that I thought was a problem was that a lot of the candidates were running on biography, and if I could send a

message to all Republican politicals out there. Biography never wins, never wins, nobody cares who you are, Like fantastic, you have an amazing life story. Great, that's not gonna win you. An election that does not win, it's like, what are you gonna do? So like dr Oz, I mean, I actually thought he was not a bad candidate. Um. I

know that a lot of people didn't like him. He's sort of a more liberal Republican and then he had Trump endorsee and to other people who he Trump hated him, and it's so, you know whatever, But he was running so hard on who he is that I really didn't know what he was going to do. And that should have been a walk, like that should have been a race that was easily one. Um. Blake Masters I think is fantastic. I really think he's really great. But again, a lot of biography, a lot of like who he

is instead of what he will do. UM. So I saw a lot of this coming where I didn't like the way the campaigns were being run. And it's hard to criticize the candidates in the moment, but I did. I tweeted about this um at the time, saying, like I don't see I don't see not not is NEOs issues. They would talk about the issues, yes, but what are you going to do? Why should the person leave their house and go vote for you? So that's one thing. I think that the biography overwhelmed um a lot of

the action. But then the second thing is that their Democrats have become these expert ballot harvesters and places like Arizona, and unless Republicans want to keep losing, they have to catch up with that. There's no other option. Making it illegal would be fantastic. I think that ballot harvesting should

be illegal, um, but it's not. It's not illegal. So unless we're gonna unless Republicans are going to fight to make it illegal and and take that on and really do something about it and win, which is going to be a tough thing, they need to just get in on the game. Um. There's so many options for Republicans to do exactly the same kind of ballot harvesting that

the Democrats have been doing. And we need to get over the idea that elections only happen on one day, because they're not happening that way in so many places across the country where Republicans need to win. It's sad, but it's almost an acceptance of we don't have fair elections anywhere it in terms of like the system is rigged against us. When we saw what Democrats did in with mail ballots. We see the FBI, including with big tech, to try to silence conservatives in the sense or information

that the public sees before elections. So it's almost like we have no room for error. I mean like you're essentially fighting a fight with one arm tied behind your back.

You know, you've get the media against us. It's like we have to almost be perfect in our execution to win now, right, But I think Pulplicans need to internalize that and just go do it because they like the more the party complains about how things are stacked against them, and they are you're absolutely right, um, but that won't win, and so if the point is to win, they have to just jump in and behave the same way. It sucks,

it does, you know. It's like you want elections to be run fairly and and in a specific way the way that you know, showing I D and only the go on one day and etcetera, and not having all these ways like mail in ballot which is so easily corrupted. Um, but it's not that that. Again, that ship is sailed, and it's like Reblicans have to just accept that and and behave accordingly. They have to fight back accordingly, otherwise

they're gonna keep losing. And it's getting to where you don't want the Democrats that you have an even bigger advantage if you don't kind of get into this game now. Also worry about underestimating Joe Biden, because you know, we we are fighting a fight with one arm behind her back, and he was able to hide in the basement ahead

of election in a way that no Republican could ever do. So, you know, I I worry about you know, obviously it's a ship show and he's crazy and dumb and a liar and you know, all these different things, but you know, it's it's a tougher fight now. Yeah. Look, I've been unpopular at parties for the last two years where people are like, who do you think is gonna win in two And I say Joe Biden because I don't see, you know, I don't see what changes on the ground.

I don't see the changes the Republicans are making to make a Republican candidate possible. Um, you know, I would love to say that oh Ron de Santis will be able to overcome these deficiencies that the Republican Party has kind of forced in these states. But I don't know. I don't know that that's necessarily possible for the next election. I'd love to see the Republican Party get up, you know, off its ask because I know we're a lot of use asks here, um and and get to work and

get to work and go fight. No I said ship show, So but I the times I have first I hear it, right, I love don't do that that was your first mistake. I hope that we approached differently. And I know that you know her meet Dylan is running for our instituture woman, and uh, I think that you know they're they're do need to be some changes in the Republican Party in terms of leadership, in the way that our ground game

works and and just how we approach elections. Yeah, I think the ground game is number one priority for the party leadership to work on. And you know, so much of its personality like who's with who, Rona is with Trump, this one's with this one. It's just like it shouldn't be like that. It should be like who could get the job done, who could get the most votes into the box at the end of the election day. And that's really what we're looking for here. We're not like

trying to reinvent the wheel. It's like who can get the people to the polls? And um, I don't know. I think the idea is that anybody who hasn't been able to do it thus far probably can't do it going forward, So maybe time for somebody new. And it don't make it a personality thing. It doesn't mean you have to hate these people. It doesn't mean you have to align with these people versus those people. I find all that really ridiculous. I think we need to just

get somebody in who can win. Also, just like extremely discipline and execution, because the game has changed. I mean, you've were in politics like you used to be able to do with a candidate. You could change the momentum of an election, like for instance, that awful debate with John Fetterman where he said good night before the debate started,

would have in the past reshaped an election. However, at that point, more than half of the mail and ballots had already been sent in, so it's it's almost impossible to change. It's it's basically just trying to drive out ballots as early as you can, right. And also, I just feel like the party needs to be more nimble. Like one of the things that happened, um, you know

recently or like I think it happened right before the election. Um, but Chuck Schumer said that we need to legalize every single illegal immigrant that's in the country, not just like dreamers or something, but everybody who's here illegally. That should have been a seven, you know, add from the rn C. Okay, maybe you're out of money for TV. Put it on the internet, make it run on every you know page

that anybody comes across. I think people just need to hear, like, look, here's the Senate majority leader are saying that he wants to legalize every single person who's in the country illegally. John Futterman is a vote for this? Do you want this? And I think that it just they're not nimble enough. They cannot respond quickly enough to changes or news that happens.

And that was a big one for me where I thought this could have been something and the fact that they just didn't do anything on it, and the fact that like, again, what did doctor Oz stand for? What was his pitch? I follow politics very closely, and I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I think there was a lack of messaging for you know, a lot of Canada, and I think to like one thing that I do think that makes to Santa successful here in Florida is

that you know that he believes what he says. And I think the problem with a lot of candidates today and the Republican Party is like, I don't even know if they know what they believe, you know what I mean, right, They can't. They can't verbalize what it is they're going to do, and if they can't, then nobody believes them. Nobody believes somebody who can't like state specifically what they're

what they're for, and what they believe. It's just it's it's a you know, when we talk about like a problem of candidates, it's not just that it's like you can have a good candidate, you can have somebody that looks good or sounds good or whatever, but if they're not kind of true, if they don't really believe what they're saying, if they're just running for some you know, extra reason that isn't like they want to fight for

their beliefs. It's really hard to win. Um. I have never seen a candidate win who kind of wasn't like really true to themselves. And I had I've worked for candidates who were like I'd say, what's your education platform and they'd be like, I don't know, write me one. And those candidates do not win. They just don't well.

Even with TV. I met with Roger als like forever ago, and he told me that like authenticity is everything, and you know, and media like people every yeah, like people need to know that you are the same person in front of a microphone that you are behind it, you know, like or when you're off the mic. You know, it's like you just people need to know that you are

who you say you are exactly. And for candidates that goes just doubly so like people get really invested in politics and they you know, come to see this person that's running as you know, not even not a friend but close, and they need to believe that you are who you say you are. And again, voting it's getting easier now, obviously with all this ballot harvesting and Maile

at voting. But it's it's it's leaving your house, going somewhere, waiting on a line, like doing it, believing that it matters. And if it does matter, then then people will do it. But you need to you need to give them that that thing to hold on to, to show that it will matter. It does matter. I will do something with this vote that you're giving me, Carol. I love you, my friend. Anything else you want to leave us with before we go, Lisa Booth is the best. I'm taking

applications for very nice, young eligible men. Please send them my way. I will, I will, you know, stift through them and pass the good ones onto my Lisa. Well, I appreciate that you're a good friend. I appreciate you joined the show, love you, looking forward to seeing you soon too. So that was my friend, Carol marko Witz. You can find her work in the New York Post. There's a column there she writes about a bunch of smart things, politics, family, children. The list goes on in

that columns of the New York Post. Also writes for Fox News, and you can see her on TV quite a bit as well. I want to thank you guys at home for listening as always every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. I want to thank John Castle if I produced her, for putting the podcast together. Leave us a review, give us a rating on Apple Podcast. I love reading those. Until next time,