Life, Laughs, and Taking on the Left with Dave Rubin

forward to this conversation. We're gonna have fun talk about life, but also get into a lot of these serious issues as well. Uh. Dave's got a book out that coming out right now called Don't Burn This Country, Surviving and Thriving and Our Woke Dystopia, where he goes through some of the antics of the left and what we on the right should do about it. He's a former leftist, but he has seen the light. He has come around, uh, and now he's trying to preach the gospel to to

people who don't get it yet. He's also on tour, Don't Burn This Country Tour. He's had some amazing guests, people like Don Jr. He's got Governor de Santis coming up as well. He also started Locals, which merged with Rumble if he didn't have enough on his plate, and everyone's always like, oh, you know, go out and build your own thing, do this conservatives. Well, he did it, and he did it successfully. So I'm really looking forward to this conversation. He's an awesome dude. I've been fortunate

to get to know him here in Miami. So I really hope you enjoyed the conversation, and I hope you enjoyed the show. So I am so stoked about this guest because he's my friend and he's awesome. Dave Reuben, nice to have you on the show, my friend. I like that intro. He's my friend and he's awesome. People always say he needs no introduction, that's the thing I keep getting lately. But I like he's my friend and

he's awesome. That's that's sort of capsuletes all things. We'll see the beauty of this show as we do the intro before, because I don't want to, like, you know, go through all the things with the so so it's like I do that for you guys, so you don't have to sit through hearing, uh, you know, the different stuff. So I do this simple short start and then we do like the longer later. But I was telling you we went to the tennis to SUSA for a two

thousand mules last night and I overserved myself. So my apologies to you and the audience. I'm it's self inflicted. But I have a little on the struggle bus. Today. We get through this thing at mar Lago, which is in West Palm here in Florida, and you know, we're at the beginning of May in Florida. This is my first spring and into summer here in Florida, and I'm told it's going to get very hot and very humid.

So I got there and I just assumed this thing was going to be a c indoors, you know, nice and chili and all these fancy people in their tuxedos. And we get out there and it's blair ring hot. It's outdoors. The bars are like baked in the sun. Everyone is dripping. And Lisa, were you there for the guy who fell in the pool? Did you see that? So I didn't see it, but I saw the aftermath, and I I'm just glad it wasn't me. But because there's nothing worse than like being wet and you're you know,

like it's just a terrible feeling. So I feel bad for that guy. I've got I've got sympathy for him. But but fortunately I was you know, I stayed away from the pool area, so I was good. I can I can confirm to the audience it was not you. It was a rather portly fella. And but he came out. He had a big smile on his face. Everyone gave him a round of applause, and it's all good. But we've been fortunate because I've gotten to know you more since now we're both Floridians. And what's hilarious is you

as a good friend. We were trying to set me up with someone, which is a sign of a good friend because you want to you want to take care of me. You don't want me to be old and alone and have like thirty cats at some point. So it's like it's a sign of friendship, you know. But hilarious is you're like telling about this guy and then I'm like, oh my god, I did it didn't work out? That's very kind of you. Well, so so you know, look,

you're you're awesome. I just think you're great. You're obviously gonna find a great guy with the time is right. But you know, a few months ago you said that you were single, and you're kind of you know, you're looking. So I happened to be out one night with my friend Douglas Murray, who you may know. He's a great British conservative author, and he introduced me to this other guy and we're out having drinks and the guy's he's very handsome, he's a he's a model, and he seems

to get it politically. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, this guy is pretty bright, he's on the ball. Young guy seems about Lisa's age. I think they'd really hit it off. So I text you before I even say anything. Oh, I asked the guy if he single. He says he's single. And then I text you. I said, Lisa, send me the hottest shot that you got right now, and I think this is the one. And you sent me. You know, you're off. You're on a balcony somewhere and the wind

is blowing in the air is blowing. You look rather stunning. And I show it to the guy. I said, I think I got the girl for you. I show him the picture and he's like, you're not going to believe that I dated her. I know, but it was so continued to try. But you know what I said to myself, I said that Dave Ruben, he's a friend, and so I appreciate. I was looking out, I was looking up. But you're gonna You're gonna find a great guy. You know, it's just obvious, you know, I know, it's it's a

little harder. I mean, that really is true. You know, girls, generally, I've found UM girls usually in there sort of let's say, mid twenties into their thirties and even beyond that better single usually have their stuff together way more than the guys do. We definitely are in this weird thing in America right now where guys are in like a more

of a slow maturation process. I think that might be changing a little bit, and it probably definitely is changing when it comes to more of like a conservative set of guys. UM. But I know a lot of great girls that are having trouble just finding guys who kind of have their stuff together, who maybe do a little bit of the Jordan's Peterson stand up straight with your shoulders back and you know, get yourself into the world

in a sensible way. So I know a lot of cool girls and that, and then that that makes it obviously tougher because the pool then becomes a little bit thinner if you're in the market for a dude. Well, I feel like it's harder when you get older because you're looking for different things in life, right, Like it's not you're not just looking to like go on dates and have fun whatever, like You're you're looking for, Okay, is this Could this person be a husband? Could this

person be a father? You know, like you just don't have as much time to like waste with someone, so you just become like a little more judicious in the process. But that's probably because I didn't do those things earlier, is probably what I'm saying. Seven. So I wish I wish I had gone to that, you know, conclusion. But you know, it's it's all good in life. I appreciate that. And we've we've been fortunate because we live in the state of Florida. I mean, how much do you love

being a Floridian? I freaking all love it. I mean, like beyond love it. I know how much you love it. I know how much everyone here that now has trans planted, and I know an awful lot of refugees how much they love it. But I don't know that there's anyone that has loved every minute of living in Florida more

than me. I got here about now, it's about five months ago or so, and I wake up every morning and the sun is shining, and the frogs are croaking, and the lizards are climbing around, and my dog's going

crazy to these, hunting all of them. And you know, the spirit of freedom here, I mean the smiling faces after living in Los Angeles, especially for the last two years of COVID, where you never saw people everyone, and when you rarely did, they were just so depressed and anti social and there was such a depression in terms of the economic activity, and everything was closed and dirty and homelessness and all of the broken windows, all the stuff.

And you come here and you and I both live in the Miami area and it's clean and it's nice and even like just the trees and the leaves, everything feels so good. And then the fact that you know, for for people like you and me, Lesa like to live, to do what we do for a living, where we talk about politics and you know, to live in a

place that is in line with our politics. I really forgot, having lived lived in California, how when you live in a place that's so disconnected from how you actually believe and want to live, it does great on you over time. And I was at a one eighty opposite with basically everyone at a public level in California, whether it was my mayor Eric Arsetti or the crazy psycho governor Gavin Newsom. And I did everything I could to get the guy recalled,

and then I campaigned with Larry Elder. It obviously didn't work, and then that was the last straw. I got audited by the state three days later, and I said, that's it. I'm out of here. And it was the best decision I ever made. Well, and then that was I mean, that was kind of crazy for them to But we're saying this all the time though, I mean, like the government just politically going after uh, you know, people who don't subscribe to their leftist bus and it's it's but

it's only it seemingly only goes one way. You know, these people are, They're exactly what they all purported Trump to be. They all thought Trump was going to use the levers of the state to punish his opponents and people down and blah blah blah. And meanwhile it's like, you know what, it was actually the I R S under Obama Lowis Learner that was hunting down the Tea Party groups because they didn't like what they were doing.

In this case, it was me campaigning obviously to get Gavin Newsom recalled with Larry Elder, who was a great, great man. And then I get audited. So this is what they do. And that's just like, that's just one oh one for what the left is up to these days. They accuse you of doing exactly what they're doing, but it's so much more overt now. I mean, they quite literally have a ministry of truth and you know, just

but the wheel, the wielding of the guard. I just feel like a lot of times before there was at least some effort to conceal like this totalitarianism, communism, authoritary and now they're just overt with it. They don't even care anymore. There's no attempt to hide like the abuse of power and their their hatred for us. Isn't there something kind of refreshing about that? O Like it really is out in the open right now. There's you know,

I do it on my show all the time. It's like, man, I wish I could count the remaining good liberals, the remaining sort of somewhat sane moderate Democrats, and you know, I can usually do it all on one hand because you've got Tulsi who's completely on the outs from her own party because she is a moderate. And then you know, maybe you've got half a bill Mare depending on what day it is, and you know, okay, there's sort of Barry Wise every now and again. But the point is

there are no moderates left. They've let the inmates run the asylum. But I think in some ways it's making our job easier because you know, whether you're a libertarian or conservative or you're just an ex liberal or something like that, it's like, man, we're happier. I think we have a better sense of really what reality is and what the world is. And that's been an interesting thing

for me. You know, we have a we have a fun crew here of you know, like internet personalities that we've gone to dinners with and hung out with and stuff, and it's like these people are happy, and it doesn't we have some political difference is but nobody cares. It's just it's just irrelevant to to us all trying to live happy lives and do good work and you know, make Florida the best part and that it can be well.

I think Tucker recently said that the left is now the party of weak men and unhappy women, which I think pretty much. But they really do just seem miserable. And you know, you used to be a progressive. You obviously aren't miserable, You're amazing, But what was that turning point for you when you're just like, you know what, this just doesn't drive with me anywhere. I don't subscribe to this, Like what what was it for you? That's sort of just kind of set that that light bulb

off in your head. I mean, there were a lot of things it was sort of it was I think what happens to a lot of people. It's similar to what happened to me, which is there's a bunch of slow motion things and then suddenly something that completely tips you over and you're like, holy cow, that really just happened. That's why that's why they call it the red pill,

because you have like these hints that something is up. Uh, sort of like Neo had before the moment, and then you take the red them then you go, wow, I really was seeing things backwards. Uh. There's a few moments for me. Most famously was this moment where I was still on the left and I had Larry Elder on.

This is now seven years ago or so, and we we were talking about systemic racism and he just beat me senseless with facts and I wasn't armed to fight back because I was a lefty and what lefties do is you just say something and you think because you say it, it's true. So you say systemic racism, and then you think, oh, I said it, so it must be true. Everyone says it's systemic racism, it's systemically racist.

And he really went after me with stacks and statistics and figures, and instead of doing what the knee jerk lefty thing is, which is yelling at him and calling him a racist whatever, I just kind of listened and this all happened live on camera, and from that moment I started just being willing to talk to some of the people that I thought were my opponents. So you know, soon after that, I had the scary Glenn back on, and I had the scary Dennis Praeger and the very

very scary five ft seven Ben Shapiro. And what I realized was, well, I had some political different disagreements with them, but they were nice people, and I actually thought that they were quite thoughtful and um and in many ways generous of spirit. Now that I've become friends with all of them, I find them to be great people. So you just need one moment that kind of tips you over.

And I think the challenge for us always is getting people to that moment, you know, if you can just leave them long enough and then they have to just kind of get that last moment themselves well. And there's people like that that are on the cost, Like you look at people like Baumert. I know you've talked about this on your show. You know, you've got people like bou Mar who you know makes a lot of sense a lot of the time, but he just can't seem

to completely come around. You know, It's like, why why do you think he can't completely what? What's blocking? Is it just you know, for publicity, worried about losing street credit or why can't some of these people just fully like they're they're at the cost, right? I think they're right there, but they just can't get there complete. He's

kind of the most interesting case. And that's why I talk about him so much, because, you know, he's been the standard bearer for liberalism in America for thirty years at least, it's actually more than thirty years, and now at this point between politically and correct and real time and doing stand up. Before that, he was the sort of most outspoken political comedian. We had George Carlin before him, but in terms of like cultural irrelevance, and obviously George

Carlin passed away ten years ago or whatever. Um, Bill mart you know what he seems to do now is he gets everything two years too late. So, you know, in the last couple of months, he's suddenly speaking out against the gender stuff, but we've all been talking about it for a couple of years. He's talking out against critical race theory in schools, but we've all been talking about it for a couple of years. In the last few weeks he started talking out against blockdowns and masks. Again,

we've all been talking about it for two years. Um. You know, he's been consistently good on free speech, so i'll give him that one. Um, But at the same time. You know, this is a guy who said in the middle of the Trump presidency that he wanted or session because it would take out Trump. And it's like, well, you ended up supporting by it, and then congratulations, we basically have a recession. I think for Bill Maher and

for a lot of the liberals, there's two. I think there's three things, really, but I think there's two that become almost intractable and that's why they don't get to the end. I think the first one is often they don't think through the issues, so they so one issue that keeps getting them is the welfare state. They think that they're good just because they think taxes should go

to help poor people. I would say in that one, all they have to do is read the Thomas Soul book or just basically any libertarian economics economists to understand why that doesn't work. So I think I think we can probably move them past that, and I do see some movement there. The two that I think of the real issue, and one is very unique to build one is the one is the issue that's hot right now, which is abortion. Um, they've really the less has really

fetishized abortion in such a twisted way. And I say this as someone that's begrudgingly pro choice at least for a few weeks. Um they're they're so obsessed with abortion and they think that there were publicans just want to control women or something like that. That that's one, that's the big one. And then for Bill, I think there's another one, which is that he's gone so in the atheist thing for so long and so mocked religion and

believers were so long. I think it would be a real weird moment for a guy like him to fully admit that actually the people that are defending all of the things that he has fought for, who are defending all his liberal beliefs about free speech and rationality and all that, well, guess what it turned out to be

those crazy religious people. So I think he's got a big comment that And then I would throw in one more with him, which is that he's he's a product of Hollywood and he wants to go he likes Hollywood parties. He throws a lot of Hollywood parties. I've seen him at Hollywood parties like he likes that thing. And if you want to stay in that thing. And the guy's single,

he's a lifelong bachelor and never had kids. You know, it's like, if he wants that thing, if that thing is his life, well they're not going to tolerate the other part of that. Trust me, I know, I mean, you know, I'm on me out for that thing, and it's it's fine with me. Quick commercial break back with my friend Dave Reuben. On the other side, when you had mentioned, you know, Bill Maher wanting a recession to

try to get rid of Trump. But this, that's sort of that's sort of the embodiment of the left right, like they always subscribe to this notion that the ends always justify the means. And we just saw, you know, you also talked about abortion. We just saw, you know, someone leaked the reverse Wade draft opinion, obviously with intention to try to put pressure on the justices, to put pressure, just like they did with Kavanaugh when you had senators

needing security because their lives were at risk. Why why is that so specific to the left, where they're they're just so unafraid to push for violence or or to blow up norms, blow up institutions to try to get their way. Why why do why do you think that's more specific to them or why do they do that. I actually think it's a very very clear and honest reason for it that if you if you ask people on the right, what are they believed, what is the

purpose of America? Like, what's what's actually going on here? Most people on the right, and I'm talking about people who really understand the issues, they believe in individual rights, Like that's like the fundamental building block of what the West is, It's fundamental building block of our founding documents that you, as a free person in a free society, you're the root of the thing. It starts with you. And then that you should have very little government control

over what you do beyond that. And unfortunately both parties Republicans are just as guilty as Democrats have have etched away at that over the years. But broadly speaking, people on the right believe in the individual. They believe that you are unique and you have value. What has happened with the left, unfortunately, and this is a product of the last twenty or thirty years, because this is not a product of say the sixties. Less h is that

collectivism has taken over. So once you once you are obsessed with collectivism and that your your skin color and your gender into sexuality and all that stuff that that is the the main important thing about you. Well, then you're just a cog in the system. And if you're just a cognist system, everyone else is just a cognist system.

And then the system is more important than us. And then if you throw what really has been the gasoline on the fire, you know, all of this really horrific stuff like the sixteen nineteen project and this this idea that America is founded on racism, and that's really the driving factor of everything. These people don't believe in our institutions.

They don't believe this experiment is good. And it's such a shame because not only is this the greatest, this is the greatest human experiment that has ever been done, and it's done it for two d fifty years. That we may be getting close to the end. Maybe we are, maybe we really are. UM. But you know the thing is, I think in their hearts and hearts they know it's not true. Uh, they don't leave, right, Nobody leaves America. Everybody always wants to come stay in America. People still

want to come to America. UM. And the race hucksters, you know, all of the e Bram Candy's and the Jamal Hills of the s and all of these people. They've made millions and millions of dollars living in a suppressed state, telling you all how oppressed they are, and they seem to be doing quite okay at the same time. Well, and and you're talking about you know, democrats obviously want to you know, trying to burn our country to the ground.

Which sets me up perfectly to talk about your new book, which is called Don't Burn this Country Surviving and Thriving, And yeah, it's perfect. E's ev up perfectly, my friend, you know, Surviving and Thriving and or woke just to obviously and woke dystopia. Obviously they haven't gotten the message because they're still trying to, you know, burn our country

to the ground. But talk a little bit about your book, why you wanted to write it, you know what message you were really trying to convey, uh in the book? To talk about it a little bit for for the audience. Yeah, the man driver of the book is we've all been complaining about this stuff for a long time, and we've all been trying to expose it, and we can make fun of it and we can mock it, and we

can show them their hypocrisy. We can do all of those things, and those things are worthy of doing, and these people need to be exposed and all of that m but at some point that's not enough. At some point it's like you need to take a proactive message and say, well, okay, so now what is it that I want to do. I don't want to wake up every day and just have to react to a bunch of crazy people. What is it that I can do that will empower my life? And that really is what

this book is about. And I think the the main point of the book is, Look, you have to acknowledge these people have done an incredible amount of destruction. You don't have to like what they've done, but you do have to kind of tip your cap to them and go, boy, you guys really did it. It's it's evil what you did, but you really did do it. So you can't just sit around and go, oh, they're just inept, you know, morons and buffoons, because if they are, then what does

that say about us? Because they did it on our watch? Right, So if you accept that they've done some really bad stuff, well, what can you do to better your life. And I think there's actually a lot of things you can do. One of them, uh, we said, it's something that you and I both did, which is pick up and move to a better place. We still have fifty states in the United States, and they are very different, just like Founders intended, and we now live in a place that

is much more in line with our views. And that's one thing you can do. You can also not send your kids to college, as I say, to get a degree in eighteenth century lesbian poetry and a hundred thousand dollars into debt. Wait, that's not successful. That's not going to set you a set up. But it's not going to set you up for a success. We say, you are literally the only person I know who majored in a eighteen center lesbian poetry who has a job right now.

So I'm just saying master's. Actually, Dave, it was a master's from Harvard Um. But but you know, you you send your kids to school, you get them a hundred or a hundred fifty thou dollars or believe it, and they're not somethingle three hundred thousand dollars in debt. You know, to go to go to Syracuse Syracuse University, which is obviously a private school, but that was the number one communication school. That's where I wanted to go when I was when I was a kid, because I wanted to

be in broadcasting at some level. I wanted to be on ESPN or something, and that was where a lot of podcast this went there, and I think Marv Albert went there, a lot of those guys. UH. Syracuse University right now seventy thousand dollars a year. That means you would walk out of out of Syracuse after four years roughly two hundred eighty thousand dollars in debt, and now you might have learned something about broadcasting. But you know what,

I didn't go to Syracuse. I ended up going to State University of New York at Binghamton, which is a perfectly fine New York State school. Unfortunately, like everything else, it's gone pretty woke over the last couple of years. But you know what, then I got on YouTube and I became a broadcaster myself. So the point is, there are there are tools that you have access to. UH, if you want to learn about psychology, you don't have to go a hundred thousand dollars into debt to do it.

You know what you can do. You can watch Jordan Peterson lectures online. You can watch incredible UH lectures and talks about economics by Thomas Soul. There are so many things that you can do to give the power back to yourself instead of just being part of a system that in many ways it's just designed to punish and abuse you. Well, and what's interesting is you know you've

actually followed through on a lot of these things. I mean, you are part of independent media, right like you You started your show The Reuben Report, you built Locals, which merged with Rumble have been incredibly successful that, So talk about you know what you were saying when you started that and why you did it. I mean, first I went into you know, I had been on a series

of networks. I started my show on the Young Church Network when I was a leftie, and then I moved over to or A TV, which was one of the At one point there was a bunch of these digital independent networks um that were fledgling, and most of them all if not all of them, have somewhat crumbled. So I was on a couple of different networks and I never felt right to me. I felt wet, boy. I'm working real hard, and the people that I hire and my small team, we worked very hard. We're doing good work,

we're getting more views, we're being more successful. But the machinery doesn't feel right about this. It doesn't feel good that we don't own any of this, we don't make all the final disc Asians. I just felt the I felt the energy going towards independence. So over the years, I made a series of moves of leaving these networks to become independent, and then really the big thing that

I did was ultimately create locals. I just thought, well, hey, I'm you know, I'm on YouTube, on Patreon, I'm on Facebook, all the same things that everyone else is on. But I don't own any of this stuff. You know, you know this when you're on YouTube. So I have about two million subscribers on YouTube. I don't have any of their email addresses, and depending on the algorithm I can,

my people will either see my videos or not. It's irrelevant whether they subscribe, it's just whatever the algorithm chokes out. So I started realizing that there were such a series of problems. What would be some of the things that I would want? Well, I would want direct access to my audience. I would want to own the video and

audio and make sure I have their contact information. I would want, you know, a really cool app, and I'd be able to live stream from my phone and get push notifications out so if I got kicked off Twitter, I'd be able to communicate with people. And that did happen to me last summer um and that's what we built and the locals men. By building something that was good for me, it turned out to be good for an awful lot of other creators, which I'm really proud of.

And then about seven or eight months ago, we we merged with Rumble, which is really the main YouTube competitor and the main Amazon AWS. That's Amazon Web Services. That's like the sort of the ubiquitous under the belly of the Internet. That's what drives the Internet. It's the infrastructure of the Internet. Rumble's building a really robust cloud system to complete with that, and we're just building it. And I believe that if you build it, they will come.

And that's so bar The proof has been in the pudding. No, you've absolutely crushed and I've been to your house, so I know you're you're killing it's okay, it's okay. I'm proud of you. Your you know, your your your crushing life and it's it's well deserved. So I wanted to ask you, So you went on tour with Jordan Peterson? What was that like? I mean, talk about that. It was incredible. You know, it was a year and a half of my life. We did about a hundred twenty

stops in twenty countries or so. And you know, Jordan's is you know, I believe he's the most important influential public thinker that is living on earth today. Um, And you know, it was magical to be part of because it wasn't like going on tour with a politician or someone that just talks politics or just talks current events.

I mean, he was talking about the most important existential things, about getting your life in order and healing old wounds and making mends with family members and getting off drugs and whatever addictions you have in all these things, and the people that were showing up to these theaters, and these were massive theaters. I mean we were doing four to eight, sometimes more eight thousand theaters. Jam packs sold

out every night. And the type of people that were coming there, these were people who had done the work or or were in the in the course of doing the work, so they were they looked better. You could tell they were taking care of themselves, maybe for the

first times in their time in their life. They were people that had just got jobs, or had just had kids, or whatever it might be, that they had started to set a little order instead of the chaos that Jordan talks about, and to bounce around the world with this guy and go wherever we went and see the way that he had affected people. It affected me. I mean it got into me. I started becoming a better person.

I started doing the things in my life that we're still a little a little chaotic and a little out of order. It doesn't mean that I'm perfect, obviously I'm not, but I I live with that thing in me now and um and I just saw it happened. So it was It was really interesting because it's you know, you can tour with the band, and you can tour with a comedian. You know, you can tour with you know, an author, but this really was like touring in some ways.

It sounds a little corny, but in somebody who was like touring with a modern Jesus This was like a guy who really was just out there trying to say to people, get get your ship in order, and if you do that, like who knows what can happen in your life? And then and then I saw all the transformations happening in front of me every night, and it was it was truly incredible. I think back on it seems like a dream. It's like, Wow, did I do that? It was pretty awesome. It sounds like such an obviously

an impactful experience in your life. I wish you know. I have such a fear of public speaking. I get like massive anxiety about it, which is so weird because obviously I work in tele I know, right, but like TV, it's so intimate you know everyone and like you don't see all the people watching. So it's not as I'll get nervous if I guest host or things like I

don't do as frequently. But for whatever reason, just saying all the people in the I get like massive anxiety, Like I'll have anxiety like for days building up to it. It's like the weirdest thing. I wish I didn't because you know, I envy people like you who can go out there and just like crush it in front of

an audience. But it just gives me like a funny you say that because I well, first off, I would have never thought that about you, and I'd be happy to like bring you on stage with me to some stand up stuff or some other stuff that I do. Probably my path. We can bring diapers, it's all good. Or if you do pee in your pants will get a good laugh, so that can work too. But you know,

there's there's different techniques that people use. Because actually one of the questions that Jordan would get a lot is how do you get over nervousness in front of you know, speaking in front of lots of people, And he and

I had a very different approach on that. He would often say that one thing that you can do if you're speaking in front of a lot of people is if you find one or two people in the crowd that you really can look at and focus on them, and then you'll feel like you're just talking to you know, one or two or three people, and then hopefully your nerve levels will go down. I actually find the reverse

for me. I find if I'm on stage, I can if I just look out into the sea, then it's almost as if you're talking to nobody, you're you're you can feel the energy of the room, and especially if you're getting laughs, you can work with that. But it doesn't have to be this hyper intimate thing. It can actually just be oh, I'm the person, I have the microphone, there's people here. But if you're just looking out into the sea a bit, it's actually not that intimate, and

I find that very disarming. So it's one of those things where it just depends how you're wired and how you want to do it. Although I feel like if you're only staring at like one person the whole time, they might be like, oh, Lisa's into me, you know, and then like maybe you are, but maybe you're not so sense that could also take some odd turns. It could you know, it could go to take a quick break for a little bit, and then we're back with Dave Reuben. And so you're on tour right now with

the with the Don't Burn This Country tour. You've had some incredible guests that have joined you, people like Governor de Santis I think is coming up, Don Jr. Has Don Junior? Happened? That's happened right? That was in last week it was awesome. Now very cool and so talk about like I assume that's just been so much fun to be on this tour, you know, talk about sort of your experiences, how it's going, where people can sign up,

and what other guests are are up ahead. Yeah, well, first off, it's just been great to be out there with people again. I mean everyone forgot it would like to sit in the room and laugh, so, you know, to just go out there and mess around with the crowd and do some politically politically incorrect stuff and make fun of the woke and all of that. It's like

people are having a freaking lass. So I tried to give a different you know, roughly different talk for about forty minutes each night, I have a different person open for me and then do the Q and A. So in West Palm I had Don Jr. So he came on. He did about five or ten up top. I do my thing, then we do a Q and A together again. I had Megan Kelly joined me. An upcoming in uh in Brea, California, I think on May eleventh, I've got

Dennis Praeger. The next night Oxnard, I've got Larry Elder, who we talked about earlier and just a whole bunch of different people. So it has a different vibe every night, which is also fun because you know, some of the guests hosts are a little funnier, some of them are a little more serious, some of them are more personal, some of them are more political. And it's really just changed the vibe. And uh, you know there and see people. It's like we all forgot something. Man. You know, we

used to go out and see people. I know people have been doing it here in Florida. Uh, you know, pretty relenting le since all this began. But that's been really great and if people want to join, there's actually not many tickets left, but the big one is June second at the Plaza Live in Orlando with Governor DeSantis. Uh and that you can get tickets at Dave Reuben

dot com slash events. Well, and you talk about how good it is just to have you know, everyone together, and like, don't you think that's why everyone got so mussed up during I mean not us, because you know, we made the wise decision to come down to Florida and liveral life and not hiding her basements, you know, out of fear from a virus that wasn't going to kill us. But you know, isn't why everyone got so mussed up? Like we're wired as humans to have that

interpersonal connection to be around other people. And you know, you had some people who you know, basically hit in their basement, and I think that's why we've got so many crazy people now. Personally, Oh, I think that completely is it. Humans need to be around other humans. We're

social creature. And you took a bunch of social creatures and you told them to socially distant and then you basically said, hey, only talk to people on zoom and face time and just stay in your house and most likely you're going to drink more and you're probably gonna watch more porn or play video games all day or whatever it is that you do. And obviously, two years after all of that, it has had incredibly awful effects. I actually don't think we've even begun to see the

effects that this has had really on young people. I mean, we know about the rates of alcoholism, we know about the rates of depression, but in terms of prescription drugs and illicit drugs and just all the stuff, Um, I think there's gonna be far worse effects coming over the

next decade or so. And it's such a damn shame because we did not have to do this, and and I can't even say, even though you know, I grant everybody a leash for that first month, you know, when that when it all began in a lockdown there everything, we didn't know what the hell was going on. It was the first time something like this had happened. They really scared all of us. And I think every abody has about a month, you know, there were two weeks

to flatten the curve. They extended that and for a month it was like, Okay, something weird is going on here, let's let's behave or something. After that, I pretty quickly, even though I was in crazy l a, I was like, no, no, no, no, no no. This thing is is out of control. They're not going to stop. This is not human nature. Too many people are enjoying it, too many people are profiting off it. There's such a fetishization of COVID and lockdowns.

And and then of course it unmasked something about people that people really want to control other people. People want to you know, the people who say it's my body, my choice. Suddenly wanted to inject other people with things, and uh, and I just hope that those of us that care about freedom, I hope we never forget what happened. We really have to make sure that we never forget what they did to us, because otherwise we'll just do it again. And I suspect most likely a lot of

people will and they'll welcome it well. And I really don't like being told what to do, so it was a rough period for me. Tell me what to do or to put on a freaking mask, like I'm gonna lose it. But you know, one thing I didn't really when I was looking into like some of the questions I wanted to, you know, some of the things I want to talk to you about. I didn't realize you started your career as a stand up comedian, Lisa. I was funny a long time ago. You are funny, but

I didn't know. I didn't know that. Like that's so interesting. But what we're saying now is like comedians are under attack for speech, and if comedians can't be funny and test the boundaries of you know, some of these litmus tests for society and just sort of test the boundaries, then we're not a free society. We're seeing someone like Dave Chappelle really get attacked because he's made jokes about the trans community, which are honestly hilarious, like everyone should

go watch The Closer on Netflix. And my favorite joke from him as he said, someone told them they are after you about the trans community, and he said many days or singular day, but he was attacked Dave, and it's you know, why, why why are comedians under attack? And what does that say about society right now where we are on the issue of speech. Well, look, it's so consistent with everything that's going on here right I mean, these are the people that are telling you words are violence.

If you miss gender someone, that's violence. And then they also tell you that violence is not violence. If you burn down a target in the name of social justice, that's not a violent act. But if you call he is she or she and he, then it's violence. I mean,

they they really flipped the meaning of everything. Um. You know, it's funny when I when I tour now because I did stand up for twelve years in New York and I had all the I had the struggles and successes of it, and I worked the road and I worked sometimes six nights a week, two shows a night, and I stood out on the street corners handing out tickets in you know, negative twenty in New York City, in

the middle of blizzards, all of that stuff. And now when I when I do these shows, one of the best things that people say to me after they go Dave, I had no idea you were so funny, because you know, on my daily show, I try to be funny, but I'm not really doing a scripted stand up show. When I go out and I do my tour show, now is like I'm telling stories and I'm talking about Paul Picks, and I'm kind of looking at what happened on Twitter five minutes before I went on stage. But now I

have all the tools of a comedian. I know how to play with the crowd. I know how to mess with them and get them going and all that stuff. So we need comedians, right, I mean, I think that I can tell you that after just the first leg of the tour, people are walking out of that thing and there's an exhale. There's like, oh, we're allowed to laugh.

We forgot about that. But if you're going to comedy clubs looking to be offended and then think you're allowed to jump on stage and mal Dave Chappelle like the idiot did uh? You probably have to have your head examined well. And also like as a conservative and also as a Trump supporter, I mean like I would go to like the comedy Seller in New York and basically every joke was directed towards me. So it's like whatever, you know, I mean most of the time. I mean

that stuff can be funny. It's funnier though when people open it up and just attack everyone and you know, and just but obviously now like all these people like Jimmy Fallon or whatever, they only go after the right, which is sort of boring. I mean they've sort of just become, you know, tiresome and lame. It's like society sort of has as well. Like people just don't seem to have I mean, we have fun, but like the left doesn't seem to have fun. No, they don't have fun,

and they wrecked comedy. I mean, who turns on? I mean, first off, I honestly don't know anyone that watches any of these late night shows anymore. I mean, Gut felt funny because he's the counter I mean he's yeah, he's he's crushing them in the ratings. Which I was on his first show, and he went to the nightly show. I was on the premier episode and I said, gut Felt, within three months, you're gonna be number one, I guarantee you. And I think it only took him about a month

and a half because he's doing something different. It's it's less scripted. It's obviously politically different, but it's a little loose, it's a little dirtier, and people enjoy it. They see him having fun. You see these Balon and uh Colbert and these cor bit or whatever his name is. These guys there, they're first up, they're miserable. They're giving me the same thing every night, and they're they're all they do is suck up to the machine. They just suck

up to the machine. Oh it's so edgy what you do, Republicans or ray sist. Congratulations, that's so brilliant. And you've alienated half of the country on each and every joke. But look at their ratings are showing it, and people aren't watching, and people are watching other things, you know, and in the old days, you know, I'm old enough to remember Johnny Carson Tonight Show, and Johnny Carson was so cool. I was only when he retired. I was only about twelve or so, and I just remember watching

him and thinking, man, this guy is so cool. He's so funny. He was like all he cared about was being funny. You didn't know necessarily what he thought, and if you did, it was okay. Versus these guys, they just want to beat you over the head with their politics and it's just so boring. It's so boring, and it's like there's only so many times you can call someone a racist, and like sex, it's like it's like no one even cares anymore. It doesn't land because it's

so overused and so tiresome and so boring. But you aren't, and you're fun and that is why we're friends. And I'm so glad we become friends. Are an awesome guy. Everyone should go to go out and get Don't Burn This Country. Look for tour tickets as well if they're available. Don't Burn This Country Tour, Dave Reuben, You're awesome. I really appreciate your time. Anything you want to leave us with before you go, Yes, Lisa, I'm going to do two things for you. Now, I'm gonna find you a

guy that fun. Okay, fine. At number two, I'm gonna I want to break this fear of speaking things with you. I cannot believe it. You are the one of the most confident, fun like president people I've ever met in my life. And the fact that you have something there. We can work through this thing. I think we can knock it out in like two or three weeks. I'm going to figure it out. It's a tall order, though, I don't You've got to be prepared for I think

we can do it. It might involve tequila, by the way, I was gonna say, might need I might need a shot or something. We're going on stage. Dave, You're the best. I'm so happy for your success. You're just killing it and it's great to see. So proud of you, happy for you, glad to know you appreciate your time. Likewise, Lisa, thanks so much for listening. I hope you enjoyed that. I had a ton of fun with it. I mean, he's just awesome, so much fun, such a good dude.

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