Keeping Our Republic with Dr. Ron Paul

we face to this country. The more centralized we get, the further way we are from a free country. You threw on top the damage that's been done to the rule of law and an effort to try to indict and to get Donald Trump. So we're going to turn to someone who has been a fighter of liberty more than anyone else in this country, and that's doctor Ron Paul. Of course, you know that he ran for president. He was a member of Congress for quite some time as well.

He's also the host of the Liberty Report. You can find it on Rumble. But we're going to turned to him. I mean, he's been warning about all of this stuff for so long, So who better to turn to to try to get some wisdom and where we are, how we got here, and where we're going. Stay tuned for doctor Ron Paul. Doctor Ron Paul, it's always an honor to have you on the show. I appreciate you making

the time today. Good to be with you, Elsa. You know, sir, we've got a lot going on in the country right now. We are awaiting a potential Trump indictment from the Manhattan DA's office. What do you make of it? And if it happens, what do you think it means for the country. Not much good, But you know, it's fascinating because so far the threat of indictments doing Trump a lot of good. Because people are smarter than I guess they ever anticipated that.

People who hey Trump, thought well, we'll destroy this man, but they've been doing that for five years or so. And now, of course an indictment never done before, we'll him forever. It remains to be seen. People are unpredictable, I think, because it's all based on lies, innuendos, and political shenanigans. Uh. You know, I don't think it's uh it's going to hurt Trump like the Democrats think. It may just totally backfire on him and h But in

a way, this is very democratically decided. It's going to be the will of people. The impression that people have that makes all the difference. But so far it hasn't been hurting it. But it's total nonsense. But if you look at long term stability in our judicial system, it's a disaster. I mean, this whole thing going on, you know, whether this indictment and all the nonsense that went on with January sixth and h and also Russia Gay it's built with a just a mountain of lies and innuendos,

so that I think it's very dangerous. I don't think we have rule law at all, but the immediate political impact it might be a little bit different, but that'll also be you know, temporary, because what really should bother all of us is what's happening to our system of the rule of law? And it really, it really doesn't exist. And I think that is one of our greatest dangers that we're facing today. I agree with you, sir, the danger to the rule of law. I mean, it does

seem like we've lost it in America. Is it possible to get it back or once it's gone, or are we just veering down a dangerous road. That's the key question right now. I'm trying to sort all this out by writing a little bit on it, you know. And I it's very easy to come up with all the disasters. But then deep down in my soul, I want to be and there's a reason to say, well, the world's not coming to an end. Then I tell myself, you know, I was born during the depression. I remember the conversations

about our depression. I remember the World War Two. I remember people dying, friends and neighbors and relatives in World War two, Vietnam career, in all these places, and I think, you know, uh, that's a that's a huge thing to go through. So sometimes things, uh you know, work out

better than you anticipate. But I still think that fundamentally and structurally, whether it's the rule of law or moral fiber or people telling the truth, I'll tell you what, I think we're worse off those fund with those fundamentals than we were when we were suffering through the depressions and world wars. So whether or not we can recover, I would say, yes, we can, we can. But but

the big bud is we have to do the right thing. Uh, I you know, have spoken to a lot of college campuses during campaigns, and I would spend you know, if I spoke hour, it's spend fifteen minutes or so trying to get young people alerted to the fact is spending money and debt is bad and bankruptcies are bad and destruction of money is very, very dangerous. And then in the last ten minutes, I say, but the answers are here.

We know what to do. The founders gave us good guidance, and what we need to do is just follow the rules and things we get better rather quickly. Even though

I predict that's not going to happen, it's available. So if there's a few of us around that believe that understand it, and you don't want to just go hide in the mountains someplace, then the most important thing we do is try to understand it to the best of our ability, and then try to convert other people to doing it, and then finally get people to do the

right thing. An incident that occurred here in the last couple of years I think should be a positive thing in that is, think of the horrible, horrible things that we're having and as an excuse of COVID. We're all going to die from COVID, and they and they had the lockdowns and all these things. But then the people started waking up. You know. A couple of years ago, I said, it's going to continue, it will never be thought. Uh And it's still uh, you know, out there, and

it's still a danger. But when people wake up, that makes a difference. So in my lifetime, I've been in politics and medicine other things, but right now my whole goal is trying to reach as many people as possible to say there are answers, but we have to be motivated, you know, to find a way to spread that message. And what you do, Lisa, is part of that. And you probably don't even have any idea how many people you've influenced. So I think that is the positive things.

And the other thing is, uh, you know there the remnant out there is you can't measure it, and ideas do have consequences. And I think we're winning some battles there. When we think about some of our libertarian Austrian school think, thanks, I think we've made some real progress. Well I appreciate that, sir. You know, I think I mentioned to you before that, you know, COVID was an awakening for me of just

seeing the loss of liberty so quickly. It was just hard to not miss and hard to not see, and then disturbing as well. When did we lose the rule of law? Has it just been a steady erosion or are there key moments that you could point to and say, aha,

you know, that's when it happened. The big picture is what I'm trying to put down and think about and all over, and that is I believe there's been a coup, a coup of the American system, the American Republic of the Constitution, and a group came in and they took it over, and they're in charge. So you don't go to war with declaration. You go to war when a president rise an executive order. And I date the real

in the number one day I came up with. I had there a lot of incidents that have occurred, But the day did I come up with is when it became very obviously there has been a coup of our government and our system. And that was November twenty second, nineteen sixty three. And I remember that clearly, and that of course was when Kennedy was shot by the CIA, and then Robert Kennedy was shot and Martin Luther King was shot, and then a hundred other people that were

related were shot. And the odds are most Americans now believe it was probably we ourselves that did it to us. The Russians didn't come and do it to us. So I think that's when it happened, and that exists. But that's just trying to understand it. But when you when you look at what they did, that the bad stuff they did under COVID, you know that atmosphere is there. So it's an attitude, the prevailing attitude. It's it's the sorosis of the world to take over our universities, taking

over medicine. So they have been winning these battles. But once again, the only thing that we have left is trying to use the freedoms that we have to persuade other people to change their minds. And of course that's where I see bits and pieces of hope. Well, and of course we've seen this broader centralization of power since COVID. You know, the government has grown bigger, big businesses have

grown bigger, and big banks as well. I mean, we're facing this global banking crisis right now, and you've had the government step in as well as other big banks getting bigger. You know, talk a little bit about how we got here and where you think that's heading. Well, we got here. There's very specific dates how we went from you know what the founders said, you know, you're going to have only gold and silver as legal tender.

There was nobody there a lot of amid deals of credit or paper money, and that would be the restraining way, not allowing people to spend too much money on undeclared wars or developing a welfare state. So the big date on that, of course is nineteen thirteen because of the educational progressive system that was occurring. Uh, it was a

philosophic change. And that's when we got the little Reserve and the and the income tax and then the and that's when Woodrow Wilson, when you know, to globalism and making the world safe for democracy. It's more or less being downhill for that until you know some dates. But when when when it comes to money, we had the futtle reserve and then uh, they still had their whole goal. The people who believe the liberty, the ones that were composed to delivery, had to get rid of an independent

voluntary system and honest money. So they they probably they probably didn't sit down and say let's have a depression, but their policies were stupid enough to give a depression. And then the first thing that Roosevelt did was taking the gold, and that meant that we were a bankrupt country. The American people weren't a lot of own gold. And and then and that lasted for forty years, that we

weren't a lot of own gold. And we were trying to keep it together amazingly well with guaranteeing our dollar overseas at thirty five dollars announced with the Brton Woods Agreement, but that was doomed to fail. Henry has said it wouldn't work even when it was started in nineteen forty five. So it collapses, and that is when we have the next stage of bankruptcy. That means we defaulted on our promise to pay and nobody was reimbursed by gold anymore.

So that was a major, major event, was August fifteenth of seventy one. And it's just skyrocket and so everything has been happening in these last twenty or thirty years, really very predictive. Will Austrian economists understand it and they know where the problems are and they work hard at trying to convince people. But the obstacles are pretty great. Universities are controlled by people who are more attuned to George Soros than they are to uh, you know, on

miss so that that is that is a problem. But it's uh if if if everybody said, well, it's not doable, you can't ever change people's mind. You must you see, it's an always you're joining the gang. Because the people who are our enemies don't believe in truth. They're nihilists. So if we give up and say well we can't do it, we become you know, endorser of nihilists will say we can't do it as a failure and it's beyond our control. Uh And and we don't know that

ricles can happen. But everybody, my my advice is everybody that finally discovers, you know that there is a problem, and they know basically what the answer is that can be found in personal liberty and honest money, a judicial

system that is honest. If everybody that knows that, I believe they personally have a moral obligation to do whatever they can to spread that message for their own for their own benefit, their families benefit, and everybody else's benefit, because the world would be better off if we have more people agreeing with it, and then also more bold people. It gives cover to other people than to step up and to speak the truth and to be brave in the face of sort of this mob mentality that we're

living in now. You know, you'd mentioned George Soros a couple of times. How much damage has he done to the country. I guess if you wanted to name it and you had to vote, it would be a tough race between between George Soros and Fauci, you know, doing the home. But they're one and the same group in many ways. They believe in authoritarianism, they do not believe in a higher law, and they aren't moral as they don't believe in truth. They don't think it's possible to

know truth. So therefore, if you're a nihilist, you license yourself to decide who will determine the truth. And that, of course, is what it was always said about the Soviets. The party decided the truth, and they said that at a various philosophic manner. Well, you have to have order. You can't have people everybody deciding and they had no interest in something that some people who have come around to believing is a higher law and that there it's identifiable.

But if you look at an age and history from the very first book ever written, you know, thousands of years ago, there was a recognition that you shouldn't lie, cheat, and stilln't kill people. You know, there was a higher law that was determined outside you know, of the bureaucrats and the government, and we've they lost that. To your point, I do feel like when I was growing up that there were some just basic tenets that we all agreed in as Americans, and that seems to have been eroded.

And there's so much you know, gray area and that How close to an authoritarian nation are we right now? Oh? I think we're very authoritarian. There's not much you do. But one thing is is, including myself, we all march to the laws and the rules and the regulations because we're not quite ready to say you have a gun and say you can't make me do that, you know,

so it's very authoritarian. I mean, all you have to do is look at the Federal Register and look at the laws being passed and all the nonsense going on, and what's on our television and who runs social media. I think one big thing is much clearer now, although many of us would say this was the case coming along for many, many decades, and that is the collusion of big business and big government and uh. And you can see this especially with the lockdowns, uh and other things.

It was the It was the business people that were enforcing the lockdowns and governs. Well, we believe in a free speech and First Amendment, but it was always a connection. So that that is existent and that's all authoritarian is a very sophisticated and very tricky. And the one thing is since they don't even believe there is such a thing it's truth. And they also believe that you should use truth. You're they're a lying to their benefit. Uh. That it just continues forever. So that's why I think

that basically, and even the founders talked about it. You know, we've given you a constitution, but it's not going to work if you don't have a moral people. And right now I would say we're less moral people than we have been. Uh. You know, in the last one hundred, two hundred years, I think really one hundred years the progressive areas where we really started downhill. And now we're in a dilemma. We have to decide can we go deeper?

Can we give more authority to the government? And uh, it's it's uh they're out there, I mean the COVID and you discovered something going on with with COVID control of people. That's what that was all. They weren't caring about medicine. They want to destroy medicine, too much independence of doctors and patient and too much natural medicine. So they had to stop that. And that's why, that's why we had so much authoritarianism in medicine, education, the whole work.

So and it's it's ultimately a threat by government to punish us. I mean right now, in recent years it's been I could lose my job on this. You know, how am I going to feed my kids? So? Uh know, it's it's rampant, it's epidemic, and tourism has to be stopped or this is going to get a lot worse. I keep hoping and seeing cracks and in the savant there where where the authoritarians are losing a little bit of cloud and that we'll move in the other direction.

And I still work on that assumption, but some days I have a hard time convincing anybody else than working on myself. That's one of the reasons during COVID, I was like, I'm not getting vaccinated. This makes no sense, and I made it known to the public on TV and our EDS, letting everyone know why I wasn't getting it and why we shouldn't be forced to have to get it. I always love having you on the show. Is there anything you'd like to leave us with before

we go? I spend my time trying to get a message each day with my Liberty Report with his live stream Ron Paul Liberty Report at eleven Central Time, and we're always looking for new people who make comments. And you know, in the last few weeks we switched to Rumble, and Rumbo has been very, very courteous and kind us that it's been so much better than wherever we were, you know, YouTube, and so our numbers are improving and that's always encouraging. So I'm welcome more of viewers to

the Liberty Report. Awesome, well, everyone go check it out, Doctor Ron Paul, Thank you so much. For your time, but I really appreciate it's an honor to have you on the show. Thanks. That was Doctor Ron Paul. Always great having him on the show. Obviously, he's been warning about all of this stuff for the longest time, so it's just good to kind of hear his wisdom and hear what he has to say, so I appreciate him

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