Intentional Chaos with Liz Wheeler

what's behind this chaos, this intentional chaos? What's driving it? What's the motive of the left. We're gonna get my friends take Liz Wheeler, hosted The Liz Wheeler Show on all of it. Also get into the fact that Joe Biden mishandled classified information. What does that mean for him and what does that mean for this investigation into former President Trump. Also, as a new mom, what does she

think of that Chicago report? What does she think on this attack that is happening on children, this grooming of children? But more importantly, what does all of this mean? That conversation with Liz Wheeler, my friend, the host of the Liz Wheeler Show, Stay with us Liz Wheeler. I've had the pleasure of getting to know you better over really over the past few months. It's so great to have you on the show, and it's nice to be able to call you a friend. Thank you, Thank you for

having me in ditto. It's it's been You are a delightful in person. Your audience doesn't need you to say this, but you're a delightful in person off camera as you are on camera. Well, I feel the same way about you. And and Liz, I was thinking about, you know, what should we talk about today? Because there's so much going on in the country and it's sad, you know. I mean, you've got everything from the border to the f A grounding planes, to a nationwide egg shortage to the grooming

of children. I mean, the list goes on and on and on. What worries you the most about where we are as a society today? Oh my goodness, this is like the most depressing question in kind of a sorry, I love you. Um, you know what worries me the most is what's happening to our children. For a couple of reasons. As a mom, it scares me to think of allowing my daughter, who turns to next week to be exposed to almost anything that exists outside of our home.

And I know that sounds over protectionist, but think about all the queer theory stuff, all the critical race theory stuff, all the your parents are domestic terrorists stuff. I mean,

this is this is really nasty, insiduous stuff. It's the first time, I think, at least in my lifetime I'm thirty three, that I can say without hesitation that the radical left, or the progressives, or the Marxists, whatever you want to call them, it's all the same thing that they are assaulting children on per this in order to try to topple the civil institution of the family. They've already come for marriage itself, They've already come for gender and for sex, and their their sites are now set

on children. And that really terrifies me, not only as a mom protecting my individual child, but because that really is a way to It's a strategy from the left, and it's an effective strategy to co opt the next generation, to transform these children into ideological minions of their of their of their Marxism. And that's not something I like to see in this country. And I think that that's the most important thing that we fight back again. Well,

and I also worry. You know, obviously there's the internal threat about what the left is doing to children here in the United States, but I also worry externally when you look at things like TikTok and China's hand in that if you know, with intention, they're indoctrinating an entire generation of young people and what that means for for

future generations and what it means for our country. Oh yeah, So this is funny that you brought this up because is my youngest sister is thirteen years younger than me, So I'm thirty three, she's twenty. She's a junior in college, and she has TikTok. She has TikTok because all the gen z ears have TikTok. And I kind of jokingly harassed her about this because I may be one of

the only millennials even that doesn't have TikTok. But I did an episode on my show about the It was actually about a Reddit post from an engineer who had reverse engineered the code behind behind TikTok. What what is written into the algorithm of TikTok, what's the intent? And what this engineer found is that it's an influence operation. It is it's not just propaganda, it's not just garbage.

It is those things, but it also tracks everybody's um key strokes, not because they're just trying to collect a data on you, but because they're trying to get to know each and every user so that they can feed you things on um On TikTok whatever the homepage is

called on TikTok. I'm gonna date myself as a millennial by not even knowing what it's called the four You part um and so that they can get to know you and serve you things that interest you, but also know exactly how to drop certain content that will slowly trickle by trickle change your mind on pivotal cultural issues. It is actually an operation to change the entire mindset of this young generation of Americans, and it's being run

by the Chinese Communist Party. This is not a conspiracy theory. It's a conspiracy. It's happening, and you can see the effects of this. I told my sister, I was like, listen, I know that you think that um that politics is for mint per boomers and a certain extent, But I was like, you don't have to listen to my episode if you don't want, but you've got to get off the tick that well, don't feel old because well, I guess you know, I'm a I'm a millennial technically about

to be thirty eight. So it's like I I always add the caveat of like young ish because it's like I'm not really I'm leaving the young category and you know, getting old their here. But I'm not on TikTok either, for the reasons you just stated, and knowing that it's a Chinese up and and you know, and and also just not needing to be involved in any of that stuff. But you know, to your point, these young people are

easily being braidwashed with it. And we we look at the gen Z turnout for Democrats in the mid term elections, and yeah, I don't know how we rate that ship as a country and try to change these minds that have already been poisoned. I think it's a Congressman Mike Gallagher and Senator Marco Rubio introduced to build a band TikTok in the United States, and I'm completely on board

with us. I think that we absolutely should ban TikTok if it's owned So the parent company of TikTok is called Byte Dance b y t e Bite Dance, and that company is based in China. They have ties to the Chinese Communist Party, as all companies in China do it. It's essentially just a tool of the Chinese Communist Party.

I see no reason why we shouldn't declare that to be a national security risk when the there've been employees of byte Dance and TikTok in China that admit that all of this data, all of this data that's being collected on Americans who use the up here in this country can be accessed by employees of TikTok at any time, which means the Chinese coming as parties obviously using it. I mean, the the Chinese know that TikTok is dangerous because the version of TikTok in China, which has a

different name but it's the same app. They don't allow twerking and queer theory to go viral on TikTok all the time like they do here in the United States. I mean, they promote like mathematics and engineering and respect for your elders in China because they and they limit it to certain ages of people in certain amount of hours of day that children in China are allowed to be on this app because they fully understand the destructive

for us. So, I mean, I don't think we have to sit here and just bemoaned that young people are addicted to this. We should we should ban it. I agree with you. I do think it needs to be banned as well. You know, you look at like, there's the recent report that you know, the Chicago Board of Educations Office of Inspector General and Annual report found hundreds of Chicago Public school teachers were accused of adult to students sexual misconduct from two thousand twenty two school year.

I think they opened something like four cases investigating teachers for grooming, sexual assaulting, or raping students. You know, I always ask myself sometimes when we cover these things, has this been going on and we're just now paying attention

to it, or or all these things getting worse? Yeah, I think that's a valid question because my inclination to answer this, on my speculation, I guess, would be that to a certain extent, it's always happened because this has always been part of this has always been sins, has always been evil. That's always existed. I think that it's gotten worse because of the culture that we've allowed to take root in our country. Right, We've allowed perverted sex

to become not just normalized, but celebrated. We've allowed this idea that public school teachers are not just there to teach reading, writing, and arithmetic, but are there to ideologically groom children into neo Marxist sexual identities. I mean that's of course, that's going to lead to more crimes being

committed in more creeps wanting to enter that field. So I might, like said, I don't have the day, I don't have the data in front of me, but my speculation would be that it's always existed, but it's escalating. Quick commercial break more with Liz Wheeler. I'm not a mom yet, I guarantee you're an amazing momb um. How do we protect children in this environment? You know how scary is it to be a mom in today's society. Well, my daughter hasn't turned two yet, so I may not

be the expert in answering this question. Yes, maybe you should check back with me in like twenty years to see if she turned out well. But I can tell you what I'm doing we'll do it, but we'll put it on the calendar list exactly. Checkup, checkup. Gosh, that's so much pressure for me. Um, what I'm doing is I'm just I'm I'm treating my husband and I. It's not just me, of course, I'm I'm treating our home

as shelter from evil. That the environment in our home, our nuclear family, is the place where my daughter can feel safe, the place where my daughter learns right from wrong, the place where my daughter is grounded in faith, the place where my daughter learns to trust adults that should be trusted. To create this bond between she and you know, her father and I, and my hope is to equip her so that when she does go out into the world, she already has an understanding of what is right and

what is wrong. So when she encounters wrong, when she encounters evil, even if that evil is targeting her, even if somebody is trying to groom her and evil, she recognizes that something is not right, and she is then able to come to her dad and me and say, hey, mom, Dad, something is not right, and we are then able to explain it to her. Because it's unrealistic to think that you're not going to be able or that you're going to be able to shelter your child from everything you

You simply can't. But what you can do is you can give them shelter from evil while you form them into the moral beings that you want. And so that's the philosophical part of it. The practical part of it is, at least I'm on a homeschooler, I am not. There is over my dead body will she ever set foot in a public school in in this culture? And I think I I mean I was homeschooled, so I'm already familiar with that, comfortable with it, confident in it, and

biased towards it. But particularly given what's happening in public schools that you walk in too, I mean even primary grade classrooms and you see Black Lives Matter flags on the wall, you see Ukraine flags on the wall, you see you know, pronoun friendly posters and and Pride Pride UH stickers and all this kind of stuff that's supposed to signal the students that it's a LGBTQ friendly zone.

I'm not going to put her in that environment because it is unrealistic to think that you could send a child to be indoctrinated in that environment and that they won't turn out to be a leftist that I am

going to keep her away from. You know, I probably wouldn't have thought about homeschooling, uh, you know before until everything we've learned about the school systems as of late in recent years and really just seeing the direction in the country is heading, and now it would definitely be something that I would consider for my hypothetical children that

don't exist. You uh, but you know, it does seem like, you know, naming all those things that you just did, that there's this intentional chaos that's happening in society, both from a cultural front and then just really on all this other stuff, whether it's the border, whether it's you know, it's supply chain crisis, whether it's what's happening with gas prices and energy. I mean, it's all just this intentional

chaos that they seem to be creating. I agree, And this is a one of the things that I try to do on my show because there's I feel like there's so it's it's so obvious to so many of us that things are going wrong. Right. It's not like you and I need to sit here and be like, dang, this is the environment here is terrible. Our children under assault,

and we can all see that that's happening. And so one of the things that I've tried to do in the last year on my show, it's take a step back or zoom out and be like, Okay, we acknowledge that what it is is of what's happening. Now let's look at the why it's happening, the who is behind this, what is the agenda, what what is this ideology that's causing this intentional chaos, because we can we can sit here and we can say, well, it's really bad that

the borders are open. It's really bad that, you know, these civil institutions like the education system and a family are under assault. But I have found it very helpful in ordering my response to these things to understand um

the ideology behind it. So, for example, when I'm talking about assault on children or assault on the family, it was very It's been very helpful for me to read this old Marxist from the nineteen thirties named Antonio Grumsey, who probably your listeners are very familiar with his name, but he was the one who essentially morphed twentieth century communism or Marxism into twenty one century Marxism, meaning he shifted Karl Marx's original vision for a worker led revelueation

where the working class um stages of revolution and overthrows this this ruling class based on economic dissatisfaction. Drum See said, Okay, well, we can see for a fact that that's not going to happen anymore, right, that we're not going to have a working class based on economic discomfort that are going

to overthrow these these these horrible villains of capitalists. And he said, the way to actually overthrow these Western capitalist government institutions is actually to come for the cultural institutions first, the civil institutions, the education system, and marriage and women and men and their traditional roles and um religion and faith and all of these things that are not of the government, but they underpin our society in a way

that props up our American version of government. And what I mean by that is this idea that we have a government with enumerating powers that has that is a limited government it's supposed to infringe on our lives as little as possible. That actually can't work unless you have these strong cultural institutions on which people rely because if you don't have people relying on their own families, their spouses, their parents, their children, even their communities, their churches, then

they what do they rely on? Then they need to rely on the government. And you cannot have a limited government when people are relying and maths on the government. So it's this, it's this new this this modern Marxism that we're seeing right now being on leash in our country. And it's been very helpful for me in properly ordering my response to I like your phrase that intentional chaosks to understand exactly what's behind it. I totally agree with you.

You know, they're trying to remove the anchors that hold us down as human beings and give us independence from the government, because you know, the attended purposes obviously to

drive us oh to the government. And you know, we talk about the grooming of children, but there's almost but there's also this larger grooming of society that's happened ato and we saw that during COVID it was more pronounced than perhaps ever or with just this you know, shutting out of businesses, this force of vaccinations, this paying people to stay home, and become reliant upon the government. And I there's been this reshaping of I think society's viewpoint

on the role of government. And that's concerning to me as well, of that sort of grooming that's happened totally. I call it conditioning society because they're they're that's exactly what it is. They're grooming, And the definition of grooming is conditioning somebody to do something. In this case, they're conditioning society to accept a more Marxist form of government. And I mean this has been a long time coming,

even towards even aimed at adults in our society. It accelerated during COVID, when all of a sudden in the past two three or four years, we see all these d e I programs, the diversity equity and inclusion programs um emerge, not just in schools but in the workplace. These phrases became very common to people. Most people are like, oh, yeah, we do have a diversity equity and inclusion officer at you know, my job, or we had this diversity training

or whatever it might be. That's conditioned society to to view the world in actually what the Marxist qualities is critical thought to view the world through this lens of the critical theories that emerged from the Marxist Frankfurt School in Germany a hundred years ago, almost a hundred years ago, and the d e I programs that are just about

universal right now, are are anchored in these institutions. You and I as consumers, whether we send our children to schools, or whether you know we went to colleges where this existed, whether this is in our workplace wherever it might be. We can't just use our money or our voices and say,

waitch a second, we're protesting against this. We don't want to shop here if you have this, If you have this policy, we don't want to set our kids here, if your school teaching this, we don't want to work here.

If you're going to force this on us in the workplace, we've lost our power negotiating power because of the E s G stuff, because of the Environmental, Social and Governance metrics, which is essentially a so show credit score system that rewards all of these different types of institutions, schools and workplaces and businesses rewards them with a higher rating on this on this metric. If they push d e I, if they push diversity, equity, and inclusion, and the punishment

if they don't. It's not just this positive reinforcement with high rating, the punishment if they don't, if they lose access to capital in the market. They're not able to run their business if they don't obtain this higher E. S G score rating. So it really is deeply infiltrated

into our society right now. And so we're I mean, yes, it's it's conditioning the American population to accept, at some point in the nearer and nearer future, the fact that the left does not like the American system of government. The Left is not like our country. They want to fundamentally transform it. And when we ask the question, well, transform it into what the answer is a nation that is not free. Well, and we're seeing some of that

play out even within the Biden administration. I mean, you have various people and positions of power, whether it's Kamala Harris, Pete Buddha Judge who had been put there for you know, checking box sake, and that's not worked out because these people are not competent enough to hold their positions. And we even just look at what happened recently with the first you know, the f A ordering all flights grounded for the first time since nine eleven. Uh, in the

incompetency at the Department of Transportation. So, I mean we can see in real time, even just looking at the Biden administration, how when you get away from a merit based system, Uh, it leads to to failure and incompetency. Yeah, I mean, it's terrible what happened with the The worst example of this actually, or maybe maybe not the worst from a policy standpoint, but the most egregious pr example of this is Sam Brenton, right, the luggage thief that

was formerly employed by Biden's Department of Education. That's that's weird o, creepo, sicko who cross stressed constantly called himself a pop handler, which is some weird bondage term for liking to walk other men around with leathered chains around their necks. Some some really sick, sexual, twisted fantasy that he had in this That was hired obviously because he was non binary, because he was um, because he checked

those lgbt Q privilege points boxes. But look at what happened, ended up stealing people's luggage at the airport like a derange, like the deranged individual that he was. That's the outcome of it. Um, Like I said, maybe that's maybe that's not Maybe didn't didn't have the biggest effect on policy. Maybe Pete Buddha Judge has had the worst effect on policy. But it actually scares me as a frequent traveler. You

travel a lot, Lisa, I travel a lot. It scares me to think that our f a it's computer system is so outdated there's been no updates, very little maintenance on it that Pete Buddah Judge is supposed to be overseeing, Like what happens when this actually impacts flights when they're

in the air. That terrifies me. Well. And also to worry about the vulnerability with potential cyber attacks, right because we don't know what the root cause of this actually it was, and so you know, I think it's fair to also be concerned about potential cyber but just the vulnerability and just the failure on so many parts with Pete Boodha Judge, whether it was the you know, the rail strike or supply global supply chain issues, the Southwest chaos,

and you know, the list goes on. Uh. You know, Liz, I wanted to to get your take on this new development with Joe Biden having classified documents. Let's take a listen to an interview that he did with Scott Kelly from sixty minutes, and then I want to get your take on all of this. On the other side, when you saw the photograph of the top secret documents laid out on the floor of mar Lago, what did you think to yourself looking at that image, how that could

possibly happen? How want anyone could be that a response of all? And I thought, what data was in there that may compromise sources and methods. By that, I mean names of people who helped there, et cetera. And it just totally irresponsible. And you don't know what was in those documents. I have not asked for the specifics of those documents because I don't want to get myself in the middle of whether or not the Just Department should move or not move on certain actions they can take.

I agreed, I would not tell them what to do, and not in fact engage in telling them how to prosecute or not. So, Liz, point being is that you know Joe Biden sat there criticizing President Trump for holding classified information. Turns out that he had classified information still hanging on from his time being a vice president, included briefing materials about Ukraine, Iran, and the United Kingdom, along

with some other documents as well. What are your thoughts and uh, you know, hearing this news, I think, well, first of all, it's so funny, like what kind of doddering idiot of a president sits in the National Interview and goes, no, I know nothing about the biggest story that's happening in the United States right now. Like, come on, man, at least at least pretend that you know what's going on here. It's just showmanship, Lisa. I mean, he said he hadn't been brief in these documents, so how does

he know exactly what these documents are. President Trump claims that this is just a dispute over ownership um of documents that he claimed where his personal documents, and the National Archives said nope, this belongs to the government. It's it's Here's the thing. A lot of people are saying, oh, Joe Biden is a hypocrite because now that he's been found to have mishandled clots fight information, they are just painting it as an accident and they did the right thing,

and they cooperated with the National Archives. But it's not actually hypocrisy, because the hypocrite is someone who thinks that if they break the rules, they will just get away with it. That's not what Joe Biden believes. Joe Biden is an elitist. He believes that he deserves to play by a different set of rules than President Trump, or than you or me. That's a very very different thing. And that's what we're seeing pervasively on the left right now.

If they don't, they don't they don't think that we should play by the same rules. They think that we deserve to be prosecuted, we deserve to be silence, we deserve to be canceled because we either dare to support Trump or were conservatives or a Christian, or we simply dissent from the radical leftist ideology. Well, and it's also you know, President Trump, Presidents have the ultimate authority. It's

a classified documents. The vice president does not, So you know, him him being in possession or his team being a possession of these documents is you know, actually criminal compared to you know, President Trump, who can to classify whatever he wants. But it's also weird eat. I think we need to learn more about this. Uh. The penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement, which opened during the Trump administration. It's a Washington based think tank with the

University of Pennsylvania. But apparently Biden had an office at the center from mid two seventeen to the start of the presidential campaign, and they paid them more than nine hundred thousand dollars. There's just always these sketchy connections with Joe Biden on the foreign policy front, and either he's profiting or his family's profiting from it. Nobody for one second believes that Biden was in charge of a think tank.

I mean, come on, this is just one of those that all politicians do this, or many politicians do this, especially the highest level politicians. Between when they run for office, they create these organizations or think tanks, and uh portray themselves as being very productive and and and adding adding I don't know, thoughts and research to the ongoing conversation about whatever topic they pretend to be an expert in. But we all know that it's just them setting themselves

up for their next presidential run. There's no way that anything productive happened at this so called think tank of Joe Biden's. And here's the other. Here's the other difference between mar Lago and the Penn Biden Center Lisa. That is, mar Lago is the residence of a former president. It is locked down by Secret Service. So Trump's office, which is his office at mar Lago, was more or less secure.

There wasn't going to be people that were just wandering into this office the Secret Service in addition to to Trump's security, because Marlago is a is a club, a private club. This this is a relatively secure, if not very secure facility. The pen, the Penn Biden or the Biden Pen Center, uh is not secured. This was in a box, in a closet, in an unsecured location. What do you think this means for the investigation into former President Trump? Does it make it harder for them to

try to pursue charges against him? If they were honest people, yes, if they believed that we should all play by the same rules, then yes. But the Democrats are so desperate to stop Trump from running in any way possible that I don't think that it's going to make a difference. The other thing about this and I'm kind of sad to say this because I wish that it was a

bigger deal. But I think that for the vast majority of the American public, even even the voting electorate, I don't think the vast majority of people care about this. Is my just you care about this, and as much as I care about this, because we care about this, because we're we're obsessed with politics. This is what we do for a living. This is what we do for a hobby. This is this is our thing. But most people, that's not going to change the way that they cast

their vote. They're not going to clutch their pearls and be like, oh no, Trump and A handled classified information. But Biden did too. Therefore, the Democrats are hypocrites and I'm going to become Republican because of that. I wish that were the case, but I guess my cynical view is I don't think that it's going to change anything. And I think in this case, democrats realize that Democrats oftentimes gauge the temperature of the political environment better than

Republicans do. They realize that they can, in the eyes of voter, get away with some of this stuff, and they can in the eyes of the voter get away with still leveraging or levying this, this investigation against Trump, because the only people who are going to be really really annoyed about it, really angry and indignant about it, are going to be those of us who UH already

think of the left is dishonest and corrupt. Do you think it's that Democrats gauge it better or do you think it's just that they control the process because they controlled the media. Probably both. I think that they're just they're more sad, they're more savage fighters, right like they're they're based in their own way. They like what what happened? Let me give him a zoomed out example of this.

So what happened with the Speaker of the House election this past week when we had these twenty Republican rebels who just held Kevin McCarthy hostage until he gave them what they demanded from the House of Rules package. It was. I found it so delightful and entertaining and funny and great to watch. I was so proud of them. Was the first time that I UH felt a positive feeling about a member in Congress in a really long time. That the way that they fought is the way that

Democrats usually fight. Democrats are usually the one. It's usually Nancy Pelosi and her her ilk who are holding Republicans hostage and refusing to bend me even when everyone else is pressuring them, people in their own party, people in the media, people even voters. But that kind of fighting from Republicans, that's the first time I can remember Republicans

fighting that way. Usually we see that from Democrats. So I think they do have a better understanding of how to play not play dirty, but play dirty in politics better than Republicans do. And then, of course they have the added advantage of they're not going to get the same kind of pushback because they controlled the media apparatus and the big text combody. Well, I do worry about the reaction to it, because I agree with you. I think what they did was noble and needed. I mean,

it wasn't really about McCarthy. Was a process fight, you know, in trying to change the way that the House does business, because Nancy Pelosi had really changed the rules to give the Speaker of the House more authority and you know, basically like a dictatorship, which is what the left does. But the but the response to it concerned me because to your point, you know, we need fighters, right, We've got a big but we saw what happened during COVID.

We we know what their objective is for the country. We know what direction the country is head egg and so we need people with a stomach for it for the fight ahead. And you know, we didn't see that as much as I think we we should have should have hoped for in terms of the response to to that small group of Republicans putting up a fight. No, there were a lot of Republicans who were opposed to that. And this is republicans in elected office, This is republicans

in in commentary, this is voters. And I view this. I view this in a positive way, not because it's not because it's a good thing, but I viewed this in a positive way because it's better that we know who are the fighters on our side. It's better that we know who has that fire in their belly to stand strong in their principles, and it's better that we

know who not to trust. I mean, there were there are actually some players even in the United States Congress, who portrayed themselves to be fighters and took the wrong side on this and it's good to know. It's good for us to know who we can trust and who we can count on and who we can't. So if that, if that's all part of the purifying process, and I say that as a Catholic meaning like the purgatory type process that I'm okay with us quick break more worthless.

What do you think it means for the fight ahead in the House? You know, I mean, look at the powers that Republicans in a small majority are going to have. It's essentially power of the purse and then also oversight an investigative authority. Uh, you know, what do you want to see from them and using those powers? I want to see investigations. I want to see committees, the committees

like the Subcommittee on the Weaponization of Government. And I was talking about this on I showed the other day because I said, there's something from this committee that I don't want to see. We have we have an experience even with Republicans in Congress, where they hold these people who we assume or accused of being corrupt in front of them, and they interviewed them. And sometimes these interviews

or even brutal, sometimes they get really viral. Good informative clips that show um that show the subject who was being interviewed to be a bad person, to be a liar, to to be corrupt, and that's oftentimes where they leave it. They leave it with a viral Twitter video. They leave it with oh, look I I did. I let me this incredible SmackDown against somebody. And I don't want to

see that from this Congress. I don't want them just to use this as an opportunity to to increase their own influence or to fundraise what I want to see as a mechanism of accountability. I want them to do again what the Democrats do. I want them to pursue these investigations with the goal in their mind of either referring for prosecution or finding that there wasn't anything to refer for prosecution. I don't want them just to be like, ha, we told you, and like pound their fist on the

table and be like that was a stupid answer. Democrats are idiots. No, No, I want people who have violated the law to be held accountable and to be prosecuted for it. The House of Representatives is controlled by Republicans. Now Republicans seat the seat who they want on committees right now, we should be mercilessly investigating everything from the FBI's um role in January six to the FBI's role in the Gretchen with Ore fed napping, to the raid

on maur A Longo. We should go back and zoom out on the Department of Justice, on the weaponization of the Department of Homeland Security against parents who opposed critical race theory and schools, the Department of Education and their

collusion with teachers unions who are corrupt entities themselves. We should lay there the corruption, the Fauci, corruption with Big Pharma, all of this stuff, and the goal should be referral for prosecution if we believe what we say, what we constantly say that these people don't just hold a different opinion. They're not just pushing different policies than we support, but

they've committed actual crimes against our country. I mean, the frustrating part is, you know, Merrick Garland's not going to do anything with you know, the referrals. But I totally agree with you and the fact that you know, we need to bring this information today and I hope to like I would, what I'd love to see from them is actually put forth some reforms, you know, to to to get to the wide to get to what happened. But then also you know, what should we do about it? Right?

How do you make government better? And you know, I mean even in the fight with Kevin McCarthy and you know, getting to the fifteenth ballot, Congress has approval rating. I actually think the American people would be receptive two Republicans putting forth changes. Right, you know, how do we how do we make Congress work better for the people? Answer to the people, more accountable? How do we make government

more accountable? So, you know, I hope they put forward some reforms and changes, even if they're not going to get implemented right now, but just putting it forward to the people to see. One of the things that I think the new Rules Package is going to give the Congress the opportunity to do. And this is something that I've long advocated that whenever Republicans are in charge of either the Senate or the House, that we should be doing this constantly is bringing every single issue in a

very simplistic form to a vote. And Republicans actually avoid this the same as Democrats do, which annoys me a lot um. But one of the things that even if you have like this Republican Congress has no opportunity to actually pass legislation, right, it's going to be immediately immediately, it's going to immediately die in the Senate. Even if it passed the Senate, it would be vetoed by by Biden. So the legislative power of this Congress is not it's

not great, it's very minimal. But what they have the opportunity to do is they have the opportunity to expose the Democrats for the radical positions that they hold. So it takes school choice for example, we all know that across the country, most parents support school choice. Most Democrat parents support school choice, Most Republican parents supports school choice. White parents, Black parents, Hispanic parents. The majority of people

support school choice. The only people that don't support school choice are the Democrats in Congress. These these white liberals for the most part, that run the Democratic Party and the Republican Party in the House. Right now is an incredible opportunity to get these Democrat members of Congress on the wreck heard saying that they oppose a policy that their constituents actually support. So it's an opportunity to create that wedge between Democrat constituents and Democrat members of Congress.

That's a hugely important role for this Congress to play since they do have a minimal legislative ability, given the fact that you know, they don't have the Senate or the House. There's any number of issues that they could put to a vote and see that the Democrats are out of step with the American people, and then use that to try to actually invite people who might not be the traditional Republican voter to vote for members, to vote for members of Congress, to vote for a politician

in the Republican party who better suits their interest. Totally agree on that. And then also, you know, we have seen some slight movement in terms of you know, you've got Joe Biden visiting the border, although it was you know, a fake visit, but he at least made the trip. Uh you know, yeah, totally fake, but you know, at least he went there, right, but not giving him any credit whatsoever, but he did this obviously as republic Cans take the helm of the House, knowing that he's going

to be investigated, as border policies are going to be investigated. Uh. And then we have the Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin formally

rescinding his August two thousand, twenty one vaccine mandate as well. Uh, you know, and this is because of basically Congress pushing him on it over the National Defense Authorization Act, So you know, a slight movement, right, And then you know, there's also caveats with that in the sense that everyone who's kicked out is not being reinstated, and and you know, it's still up to the discretion of people in the authority of you know, kind of giving these individuals assignments

and whatnot. But anyways, point bang is, there has been some you know movement, right at least some positioning and pushing the Biden administration a little bit in a better direction, definitely, and it's it's largely thanks to the Republicans who have that fire in their belly, who don't just say, well, shrug, I'm here in Congress, but since we're since we don't have any legislative power, I guess I'll just get coffee here and kind of trying to make friends with these

people that hate me on the other side. No, no, these are people that said, listen, minority, even if you're in a minority coalition. We still are a minority party. We still have some power, and we should use that to to the fullest extent. I mean, when I talk about what I want Congress, what I want McCarthy to bring to the floor to vote on, I'm talking about every issue like he should have. He should get all

the Democrats on the record on abortion. Will they will they all refuse to ban later an abortion because the majority of the American people opposed that. Will they all vote in favor of vaccine mandates because the majority of the American people opposed that. Will they all vote to send more of our money to Ukraine for endless wars, which I know they're doing in real life. It doesn't have to be hypothetical because the majority of American people

opposed that. I mean, there there's all kinds of things related to what these kitchen table economic issues as well as cultural or social issues. I mean, talk about queer theory and critical race theory. Parents again across the aisle don't want their children being indoctrinated in those neo Marxist

theory reason in school. And yet these Democrats in Congress want that support that push, that advocate for that and Republicans have an opportunity to reach out to these voters saying, hey, look, this is what your democrat wants your This democrat wants to groom your child in transgender ideology. You don't want that. Maybe something to think about for the next election. Well, and I agree where I think the American people need

to know where we stand. And and you look at where bold leadership has worked, whether it's Florida or even Brian Kempt getting reelected by you know, significant numbers, Greg Abbott, you know, com Renolds. The list goes on. When you lay a marker down and people know where your stand, uh, it works, right, And I think Republicans kind of failed to do that because we haven't had strong leadership at least in Congress on on the you know, the federal level,

not necessarily what's going on in the states. But before we go, I wanted to get your take on uh, you know, I know you stood strong against the vaccine mandates and and getting the vaccine as well. What do you think was behind that massive push to get shots and everyone's arms The push I think was was a couple of things. I mean, we know how influential Dr Fauci.

His name has been almost overused in this conversation. But because of the tremendous power that he had, he stood to profit both financially, but he also stood to profit in in power and this incredible amount of power that he has amassed. Um, the Big Farmer companies have completely corrupted our public health apparatus, whether that's the FDA, whether that's the CDC. The CDC and FDA are completely in

the pocket of Big Farman. Big Farmer had their most profitable year ever by orders of magnitude, because they convinced governments around the world, but primarily led by the U. S Government, to actually mandate these these vaccines. I mean back when the Ocean mandate was in effect, before that was overturned by the court. Every employee at every company was going to be forced to take this otherwise they were going to lose their jobs. My own husband lost

his job. He's a medical provider, and he declined to get the vaccine and he lost his job and in the health care system because because of that mandate. Um, it's it's truly truly awful. But when you have this toxic combination of of ideology, meaning these these these people. This ruling class, the Democrats, are the elitist and big farm They believe they know better than we know. They believe that we are stupid and they are smart. They believe that they should be um, they should be treated

as the experts. They believe in technocracy. They don't believe that we should have a choice about our own bodies and our own lives and our own medical decisions. They believe that if they recommend it, then we should just dothily say okay, yes sir, and do what they say. They don't believe that we should be equal partners in

our healthcare. So when you marry that toxic ideology to their Marxist political ideology, which again doesn't respect the rights, the individual rights of people, and marry that to profit motive and power motive, well you get this. You get exactly what we experienced during COVID nineteen. You get um polo titians that for profit and power are willing to to try to force people to take a dangerous, a an unsafe and ineffective vaccine that they didn't want to

take in the first place. And COVID just provided this opportunity. This this wasn't new. There have been battles over UM, vaccine mandates and medical freedom before UM. Any parent with a child sending a child to school can tell you about that UM. But COVID just accelerated it and brought it to light. And the people, the American people, unfortunately, were very easily conditioned into accepting this because of the

lies that they were told about COVID nineteen itself. They were told that this was going to just raise our population. It was going to cause millions of deaths children and your children and your parents and yourself, and this was the only thing to do, and people were were paralyzed by fear. I found it, honestly, at least that kind of eye opening because I didn't realize our population would be that easily manipulated. Well and scary because of that

as well. And in total respect for you, my friend, for for standing up against all of this, you know, I think omicron was probably the best thing that had happened, because you at all these people who are pushing lockdowns, pushing mandates, pushing all these things. It almost deprogrammed them to a certain degree because they thought they could outrun getting COVID, and then once everyone got it, they're like, okay, uh, you know, we got to move on to another topic,

you know, like it's sort of a deprogrammed them. But leetle Liz anything else. I've loved this conversation with you, host of the Liz Wheeler Show. Everyone go check out Liz's show. Is there anything you want to leave us with before we go? Listen? A lot of the stuff that we have talked about today, a lot of stuff that I talked about on my show too. It's heavy stuff,

it's deep stuff. It's not like this walk in the park butterflies and sunshine and I I I just want to share with everyone that's listening that I'm not cynical

and I'm not um I don't lack hope. I actually feel incredibly energized for the future fighting this fight, because at least if we have proved any thing in the last three years, we have proved that the American people, for all of what I just said, maybe this contradicts what I just said, that so much of the population was willing to succumb to the fear and the conditioning and um and and not push back against masks and

vaccines and lockdowns, etcetera. There's also an incredible number of the American people whose eyes have been opened to the true agenda of the radical left. And we have we have fought back against us. I mean, we've essentially won the critical race theory fight. We're on the verge of winning the fight against queer theory. We can do this. As long as we acknowledge the reality of the political enemy that we face, then we will be able to fight back well against it. And if we fight back well,

we will win. I'm confident of that. Yeah, I agree. My eyes have certainly been open. I I you know, I hope our fellow Americans eyes have as well. Uh. Liz wheel are glad to know you, my friend. Appreciate the work you do and I appreciate you taking the time to come on the show. Thank you so much. It was delightful to be here. I really appreciate it. Awesome. Go check out the Liz Wheeler Show. Thanks so much, Liz.

I hope to see you soon. Talk soon. M Yeah, So that was Liz Wheeler, host of The Liz Wheeler Show. I appreciate you guys taking the time to listen to the show every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. I want to thank John Cassio, my producer, for putting the show together. I'll feel free to leave us review, give us a rating on Apple Podcasts. Until next time, Thanks for listening.