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Exposing Jan. 6th Lies with Julie Kelly

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Speaker Kevin McCarthy released over 40,000 hours of footage from Jan. 6th to Fox News’s Tucker Carlson. The newly released footage exposes many lies about that day. What do you need to know about the new footage? And why was it kept from the public for so long? Julie Kelly, a senior writer for American Greatness and the author of January 6: How Democrats Used the Capitol Protest to Launch a War on Terror Against the Political Right, joins the show to break it all down. Plus, does this new development change the legal landscape for the defendants? 

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Joe Biden called January six the worst attack on democracy since the Civil War. The Department of Justice opened a new unit specifically to focus on domestic terrorism on the anniversary of January six, leading into the midterm elections. This was the big narrative, the threats to democracy January six, attacking his political opponents, labeling almost seventy five million Americans as domestic terrorists. This is what Joe Biden did heading

into the midterm elections. It was all a lie. The narrative was carefully crafted from select footage that was released by the media without questions asked. New footage released by Tucker Carlson given to him by Speaker Kevin McCarthy, over forty thousand hours of footage, shows that that narrative was a lie. We were lied to about January six. Yes, there were bad actors, but by and large it was

rather peaceful. We were lied to about the qNaN Shaman, Jake and Chancelly, who through footage, was actually escorted throughout the capital by police. We were lied to about Officer Brian Sicknik, and we also know that Ray Epps lied to Congress about how long he was at the Capitol. Why were we lied to and what do these lies mean?

Do they change the legal landscape for the people who have been charged, the people who have been sent to jail over what happened on January six I mean, if you really think about it, this false narrative has dramatically changed the landscape of our country, the fabric of our country. It's appended the rule of law. It has allowed the Department of Justice to use tools to target political opponents.

It's changed the political narrative. It's shaped a narrative or half of the country view the other half as domestic terrorists. We'll talk to Julie Kelly about what all of this means, what you need to know about the footage, why it matters, and how the Department of Justice has used selective footage to target their political opponents. With Julie Kelly, she's a senior writer for American Greatness. She's the author of January six How Democrats used the Capital Protest to launch a

war on terror against the political right. She's joined the show a couple of times before, and she has fought so hard to try to get to the truth of what really happened on January sixth, and she joins us next, Well, Julie, thanks so much for joining the show, and thanks for really staying on this January stuff more than anyone. You've just been audit reporting and trying to get to the truth.

So thank you for doing that. Well, thank you, Lisa, and thanks for helping to cover my work get it out to your listeners and your followers on social media. I think you know it's been very helpful to get my work and coverage out to your audience. So thank you well. And it's always important to get to the truth.

But you know, even more importantly than that, I mean, we're saying the world of wall I'll be appended because of this, So I mean it's changing our country substantially, and so you know, that's why it's so important to get the truth out there to talk about all this. You know, Julie, we know that speaker Kevin McCarthy released over forty thousand hours of footage from January six. He gave it to Tucker Carlson. From what you've seen so far, what do people need to know about what that new

footage shows? Well, I just want to back up a little bit first. I know there was a lot of I wouldn't say outrage, but disappointment that this video was first going to be not accessed by Tucker and his team. I supported that. I think for the very reason why we see the outcomes of what happened. It really had to be a surgical strike. It was imperative that the zone was not flooded with a bunch of different clips from different areas, maybe from people who really don't understand

how it unfolded that day were to look. So what Tucker's team did very effectively is get a few clips that contradicted the narrative that created sort of this very

sympathetic figure Jacob Chanceley, who he has been. I've covered Jacob's tragic case since the spring of twenty twenty one, and so what people realized, number one, is there were a lot of different things happening at different times on January sixth, But more importantly, Lisa, that the government, this DOJ, with the help of the media, shockingly has concealed so

much footage from the American people. To your point, that is really changing the country that we live in because they have launched this war on domestic terror against Americans on the right. They're using their unfettered, unaccountable authority to conceal evidence, manipulate evidence, distort things even in court rooms,

to criminalize political dissent. So I think there's a bigger interest now, Lisa, and hunger from the American people, Lisa ones who won an honest country and an honest government, to get all of the evidence available as quickly as possible. Well, and for instance, you mentioned Jacob Chancey. He was kind of known by the media called the Qunan Shaman. So basically what we see in the footage is him really being escorted around the Capitol. Yet this man was sentenced

to forty one months in prison. How do you square those two things? Well, I mean you can't. And let's talk a little bit about Jacob's case, Lisa. The events of obviously, a January sixth was on a Wednesday, the government convened a grand jury on Friday, January eighth. Jacob Chancey was indicted by a grand jury on Monday the eleventh,

five days later. You're telling me the government had all of it, all of its evidence, presented it to a grand jury, They delivered it, deliberated it, and considered it carefully before charging him with serious Saloni's like civil disorder and obstruction of an official proceeding. It's almost like Lisa. The DOJ was ready to go with these charges after January sixth. You'll recall the DCUs attorney, Michael Sherwin, the acting DCUs attorney. The next day, on the twelfth, gave

this big press conference. You know, we're going to hunt you down. You know. The FBI Director Washington Field Office, Stephen d'antouano said, We're going to use every resource we have. This is going to be a twenty four seven non stock crusade to arrest people and hold them accountable. I mean, it was insane and crazy, and Jacob Chancey was really the face of what happened that day, but we weren't

told the truth and even more shockingly, Lisa. He was held in solitary confinement conditions for over three hundred days under pre trial detention orders. Federal Judge Royce Lamberth, a Reagan appointee, refused to release Jacob even though he is

no criminal history. He's a Navy veteran, he suffers from mental health issues, with Judge Lamberth knowledged in the summer of twenty twenty one, nonetheless allowed him to be tormented as a political prisoner into finally accepting a plea deal for obstruction of an official proceeding for which the government wanted Jacob forty one to fifty one months in jail. Judge Lamberth cruelly heartlessly sentenced him to forty one months in prison. He's been in jail now for twenty six

months and is expected to be released. I think later this year. We'll take a quick commercial break more with Julie Kelly on January sixth. Does this new footage change the legal landscape? Can people appeal their cases now that the footage shows things like Jacob chance Ley being escorted around by police officers hardly looks like a threat when they're you know, walking with him and showing him being peaceful as well as the majority of the individuals who

were there on that day. Does this new footage does it change the legal landscape at all? Well, it does, because you already have attorneys who are filing motions to delay trials or say release from custody based on the fact that the government did not produce all of the discovery obviously exculpatory evidence that could show different angles about what their client did, as we saw in the Chance Lee case. And so I don't believe any of the judges on the CDC District Court who've acted as nothing

more than a rubber stamp for DJ. We see this playing out in the Proud Boys trial even today. We can get to that in a minute. But they are filing motions. But you already had a judge, the new incoming chief judge, by the way, who denied an emergency motion by a woman who was going on trial for numerous offenses and said, we want to see all the tapes that Tucker's team has access to that Congress has

withheld from defendants and their attorneys for two years. And that judge denied her motion, and after a three day trial, in about two hours of deliberation by DC jury, she was found guilty on all accounts. That's the sort of thing that's been happening in this DC District Courthouse for the past year. I mean, that is just terrifying to hear. You know, the truth doesn't matter to this judge, The

truth doesn't matter to the Department of Justice. In fact, it you know, seems like they've intentionally distorted the facts to try to you know, target their political opponents. You know, Before we get into that a little bit more, I also wanted to you know, the Brian Signik story also, you know, sort of changes that anamics of that, because you've had the left the media of trying to say that, you know, essentially he died as a redult result of

the January sixth attack. But you know, there's footage showing him, you know, walking around after the mob you know, attacked him, and he seems to you know, being doing fine, and it sort of contradicts some of the narrative on him as well. Oh it totally does. I mean, and again you have men who were swept up in that unfair portrayal of what happened to Brian Sicknick. You know, let's go back to Brian Sicknick. The New York Times reported on January eighth that he had been murdered lugend to

death by Trump supporters using a fire extinguisher. That was the narrative that was promoted by Democrats, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, obviously the news media for weeks. This resulted in a very rare memorial service for Brian Sicknick in the Capitol Rotunda, where even Joe Biden and Joe Biden attended that ceremony. He was eulogized by Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, all under the guys that he had been murdered by Trump supporters on January six. His remains were then transported to

Arlington National Cemetery. I mean, he got a hero's burial. Now. Look, it's tragic that Brian Sicknick, by all accounts, a really good guy, died of a stroke at the age of forty two. There were witnessed reports that said they saw him kind of sick later that night. He wasn't getting

in the medical attention apparently that he needed. But what we did see in what Tucker released is that after the alleged spraying, and keep in mind, the cops were dousing people and they were actually getting maced themselves because the winds were kicking all of their pepper spray back in their faces. And Brian Sicknik probably was also a victim of that as well. But then you saw him

walking around the Capitol, he looked fine. There's other body worn cambridge footage, Lisa, that showed Brian Sicknik on the upper terrace. He's using water to pour out the pepper spray in his eyes, like a lot of officers were doing, and so you know, they delayed his autopsy results. Finally, the New York Times admitted that the fire extinguisher story was not true. No one got fired, no one apologized for lying about it. But then they shifted to he

might have suffered an allergic reaction to pepper spray. For that. Two men were arrested in March of twenty twenty one for attacking Brian Sicknic. They also were denied release from custody. A man named Julian cater One was released because actually his detention was overturned, but one man was held in the DC Bulag for eighteen months. A man named Julian cater accused of pepper spraying Brian Sicknic. There's video showing

him using a small pepper spray. You shouldn't pepper spray police officers, right, even if they're attacking and assaulting you. I guess you're not supposed to defend yourself. That's a whole other question. He was detained for eighteen months, finally pleading guilty to attacking Brian Sicknic. And he was sentenced to seventy one months in prison. Brian Sicknic's family an ex girlfriend showed up at the sentencing hearing to give

victim impact statements. The idea that Julian Cater was responsible for Brian Sicknik's death. I mean, this is like kasca est stuff going on. You know, we're worried about Vladimir Putin being some authoritari and thug, like, we have worse things happening in our own nation's capital. The idea that someone could sit in solitary confinement for eighteen months or at least the DC Boulot not all of it in solitary. I'll correct that denied bail because he allegedly spread an officer.

When we saw what happened throughout twenty twenty. We see it happen in cities every night, Lisa, where violent criminals attack police officers. They're not denied bail and then sentenced to seventy one months in prison. We have an unequal, very dangerous, destructive system of justice. And when Mary Garland says, oh, we don't have one standard for Democrats and one for Republicans,

it's flagrant. Lot. So the Bryan signic story was also a falsehood, and I think that that in itself brought attention to the whole manufactured narrative about Officer sicknic Well. And then you also have an unequal application of the individuals who the law being applied to the individuals that were there that day. I mean, you have someone like Ray Ups. The footage also shows that you know, Ray Ups lied about how long he was at the Capitol. You know, why, why is he seemingly unscathed from all

of this? We don't know, Lisa. And what I've said is Jacob Chanzley is to the J six political prisoners what Ray Epps is to suspected agitators or paid provocateurs. Right, people need sort of a face, they need a name, they need you know, the backstory to what's happening. The fact that Ray Ups lied, and and the fact that he was on restricted grounds for over an hour and a half. He also was at the very first physical the breach of the exterior light, so police basically designated

the entire Capital lawn is restricted area. Ray Epps was in the very first group of people who knocked over bike racks or metal raps and ran up the stairs on the west side. He was right there. He actually whispered in the ear of a man named Ryan Samsell, the guy in the backwards facing maga hat as Ray up or excuse me, Ryan Samsel knocked over the bike x and a police officer. Rays whispered in his ear

right before that. We still don't know what ray App said, and so his activity is very suspicious on its face. But the fact that he's not charged twenty six months later, and that the Juniary sixth Committee came out in his defense when people were raising these questions like Darren Bati at Revolver News and of course Tucker Carlson, they still have no explanation for it. And his transcript that was released really doesn't make any sense either. He said he

was not employed by any federal agency. Okay, fine, but there are a lot of other political interests that could have hired ray Apps to do what he was doing. There's still no good explanation why he does not face at the very least misdemeanors like parading at the capitol or trespassing on restricted grounds like so many authors have

faced those charges. Well, and what's interesting is the narrative against Tucker Carlson releasing the footage and being given the footage, is that somehow it's going to make the capital vulnerable to attacks. But my understanding is that Nancy Pelosi's filmmaker daughter was given access to footage to make a documentary. She was also there that day filming. I believe Nancy Pelosi was miked up. What can you give us a little bit of insight into that? Is that all accurate?

What do people need to know about that? And why is it okay for her to be showing the capital but not Tucker Carlson? That's right, I mean, she was showing the Capitol. It's weird that she would show up on January six if we are to believe that nothing was supposed to happen that day, right, I mean, we were told law enforcement was caught off guard. That's why the capital was unprotected. Donald Trump incited his followers that day after his speech to storm the capital. Well, why

was her filmmaker daughter there? So she recorded every basically every movement of Nancy Pelosi, including underground when the house

was being evacuated. How did Nancy Pelosi's daughter get access or authorization to go to a secure location at Fort McNair where congressional leaders were evacuated to We don't have answers to any of that, but Lesa, of course, she's not the only documentarian, filmmaker, photographer who was there January sixth, the police was crawling with filmmakers and documentarians from around

the world. There were photographers planted in certain areas, including the Senate chambers, including Nancy Pelosi's office, where they urged Richard Barnett, the guy who put his feet up on one of her desks, not her desks, urged him to put his feet up on the desk so they could take a picture. That picture went viral that afternoon, even by Nancy Pelosi's other daughter, Christina. So that's why all of this looks more and more coordinated behind the scenes.

And so, yes, her daughter was there. Her daughter has been contacting JA six defendants for almost two years trying to get their story so she can create this documentary. I assume make a lot of money and leverage her mother's position of power and fame to do so so. But again, there were a lot of filmmakers and photographers there.

Just happened to be there. Lisa, Well, you know, and this all raises suspicions obviously that they knew, you know, something was incoming and failed to protect the capital from it. But even further, I mean, there have been confirmed reports that the FBI was involved in some of the planning or you know, the intricacies of what happened on January sixth. That's been confirmed, obviously, suspicions Raps was a fed But what specifically do we know as a matter of fact

about the FBI's involvement and all of this. We know for a fact, Lisa, that FB informants were run into groups like the Oathkeepers and Proud Boys months before January six That has been established in court filings and at trial. We also know that the FBI DOJ had elite FBI forces stationed at Quantico the weekend before January sixth. This included informants or excuse me, probably undercover agents, who were then deployed to Washington, DC early that day. We don't

really know what they were doing. We have new bodycam footage, and in fact, there is a motion pending in court right now, new bodycam footage that shows at least five undercover agents who are walking plate and close agents who were armed walking to the capital on January sixth, confronted by a DC Metro police officer said Hey, are you guys carrying firearms? Yeah? We are, well why and they

all showed their badges, so what were they doing? Few of them were then seen behind Ashley Babbitt as she was entering the capital and one of them reportedly can be heard urging people to go inside the building. As Tucker said last week, his crew, his team of researchers saw very suspicious people inside the building, opening doors, showing people who are to go, encouraging to go into certain rooms.

But because they couldn't identify them, of course, you don't want to instantly assign blame that they were undercover or undercover agents or informants. But Lord Christopher Ray refuses to answer this question over and over. He was not interviewed by the January sixth Select Committee. By the way, Lisa, imagine that the FBI director of the man in charge of the most powerful law enforcement agency in the country,

was not interviewed by the January sixth committee. There's a reason why because if they had omitted questions about informants, which we know is true, then it would have revealed to cover up. But the fact that he wasn't interviewed at all also indicates a coverup of deep FBI involvement.

And one has to look no further, Lisa than the Whitmer fed Napping hoax that was engineered and executed by not only the FBI to make it look like Trump supporters, militiaman white supremacists tried to abduct an assassinate Gretchen Whitmer. The guy who was in charge of the Michigan FBI Field office who oversaw that fed Napping hoax, was promoted to the Washington Field office in October of twenty twenty.

He oversaw all the intelligence collection of January six would have known about informants or other assets that were used, deployed before and on January sixth, a man named Stephen d'antoino. He also was not interviewed by the January sixth committee. Well, and of course what's scary about all this is this has been used to target political opponents, to expand the power of the Department of Justice going after American citizens.

And you know, we know the first anniversary of January six the FBI opened a new unit to combat quote unquote domestic terrorism. You wrote the book on it January six, How democrats use the capital protests to launch a war on terror against the political right. Get into some of the details and what people need to know about how the Department of Justice has leveraged this day to target

political opponents. Oh geez, where do I start. Let's see? Well, first of all, using the FBI to investigate and interrogate and round up hundreds of Americans charged with low level misdemeanors like parading in the capital. At least do you know this? People are entitled to demonstrate on behalf of a political cause in the nation's capital. They're allowed to

go into public buildings to do so. We have recent examples of hundreds of protesters in twenty eighteen storming Senate office buildings, coming face to face with US senators, screaming at them, following them down the street, as we saw with Lindsey Graham, confronting them in elevators, like we saw with Senator Jeff flat Those women were told to leave. They did basically a sit in in the Senate. They were removed. They were charged with the usual thing, fifty

dollars fine. You're allowed to lead. You know, you're let go. You're not sent to a DC gulag where language and solitary convironment for months or a few years. So that

is the biggest disparity. So they're criminalizing political dissent, whether it's by this ridiculous class B misdemeanor parading in the capital, which is the most common charge by far by the way, or bastardizing something called obstruction of an official proceeding a post end ron law that has to do with tampering with evidence in a congressional investigation, not exercising your political

your constitutional rights to engage in a political protest. It's never been used this way before, Lisa, never was intended to be used this way. But this DOJ, as I explained with Jacob Chanceley, this DOJ has levy that fell any charge against roughly three hundred and twenty people. It has resulted in plea deals that has then resulted in years in prison. That was the charge that Matthew Parna

pleaded guilty too. He thought he would spend a few weeks, maybe a few months in jail when he found out that the government was going to come back and ask for years in prison for that non violent offense. That is when Matthew Parna could take no more and hanged himself in his garage at the end of February of twenty twenty two. And I know you're familiar with that story. These are just a few examples of what this Department of Justice is doing. And the Republicans, for the most part,

have not just been silent, they're complicit. Eighteen Republican senators, including Lindsay Graham and Tom Cotton, and I believe not Mitch McConnell, voted to give the Department of Justice a three point five billion dollar raise, partially so they could hire at least one hundred part time prosecutors to continue

this investigation and these trials implea deals. It's just it's heartbreaking for the defendants and their families because it's such a rigged judicial, political, and legal system they have no way out. Although I do want to give Kevin mccorthy credit for doing this and thank him for doing this, especially standing in direct opposition of Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, who has opposed what Kevin mccorthy just did in the

releasing of this footage. Isn't it just absolutely shameful, and I do want to commend Speaker McCarthy, And he also said this weekend on Fox I'm sure you saw, Lisa, that he intends to make this publicly available. So I

really want to commend him for that. This is a huge win for truth and transparency in the fact that Mitch McConnell and Mitt Romney and Senator Kevin Cramer and Senator Tom Tillis and Senator Lindsay Graham have come up to denounce Tucker Carlson's access to these tapes and releasing them. I mean, this is actual footage, right, Tucker Carlson didn't hire actors and go to the Capitol to reenact January six and make it look like something it wasn't. This

is legitimate security video. So for them to denounce this, whether it was national security or rewriting the events of January sixth, As I said in my piece last week, the data from the dog speaks for itself. No matter how much they're using this to destroy lives in with low level misdemeanor offenses, the fact is that the overwhelming

number of charges relate to misdemeanors. If you were going to name January sixth based on the charges DJ's coming up with, it would be called a parade because that's the biggest charge. So he's not rewriting history. Tucker is actually backing up DJ's own statistics on its prosecution. But look, I just don't know what we do with this Republican Senate. They are enemies of their own base, and I just don't know how we get rid of these people. But

we really need to. Well, you know, especially when someone like Mitch mccanno, it would be you know, almost impossible to try to get him to lose unless he you know, it's really just retirement is kind of the only way that you know to try to get him out. You know, I want to and you can tell to. The vehement responds to Tucker's releasing of this footage sort of tells

you everything you need to know. I mean, Majority Leader Chuck Schumer took to the Senate floor to talk about it, calling it one of the most shameful hours of television. You've got the view that we're calling on Merrick Garland to take action. I mean, I think that response from the media on the left really tells you everything you need to know about why they fought so hard to

keep this footage from the public. The idea that the most powerful, one of the most powerful politicians in the country can take to the Senate floor in demand basically the removal of arguably the most powerful journalist, influencer, commentator on the right, and no one condemns him. I mean, we are in Banana Republic territory, Lisa, as you can see. And the fact that I didn't see a lot of Republican senators, even people you consider on our side, come

out and condemn him for saying that. And then he went out afterwards talked to reporters where he repeated his demand the Tuckers should be taken off they are not allowed to air more footage, and reporters, instead of confronting him for obvious government interference in one a rights, went along with it. You know, they didn't say, hey, Chuckstion,

were your way out of line? You know, we don't agree with Tuck or we don't like him, whatever, but you shouldn't be on the Senate floor demanding he'd be taken off the air. But they didn't because of course they are fully invested in preserving the narrative about January six as well. They've helped create it as much as DJ or the January sixth Committee. Well, and you can also look at how important this narrative is to them. I mean you look at leading into the mid terms.

I mean, they had the January six Committee was aired in primetime. You know, the threat to democracy was the big narrative from the left. I mean Joe Biden said that this is like the biggest attacked or democracy since the Civil War or the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War. So I mean, so this narrative, I mean, this is imperative for them that they want this narrative heading into the presidential election, and this footage really threatens to deny them. What is a false narrative?

That's right? And look if there is an alternative J six Committee, which a few Republicans now we're calling for, I believe Representative Paul Gosar is one of them. They

need to hold the media accountable for this too. There was no need for these committee hearings to be televised on every single broadcast network whenever the January sixth Committee demanded it, cablenews, fine, but these networks, and of course we know you know they hired an ABC entertainment producer to put together all these shiny packages about what happened, dramatic packages where they overlaid audio on surveillance video that

has no recording. Audio recording, by the way, So they need to be held accountable too, and that needs to be part of any investigation into this committee or DOJ or any part of January sixth. But look the American people. We saw this in the Rasmus and pull eighty percent. It's like the only thing Americans agree on. Eighty percent

want all the surveillance video release. Sixty one percent, including almost a majority of Democrats, think that federal agents provoked the events of January six This is taken on a life of its own. The Biden regime, Democrats, Rhino Republicans, and of course the national news media are in full panic mode. That's why you see them scrambling to try to counter act what Tucker presented, what's happening in these

trials and what more is to come. But I think the ship is sailed on that, and Republicans are hearing this from their base. This is a top issue for Republican voters in base. And I'm sure that you know that too. There's no way Republicans, at least in the House can get away with ignoring this or not addressing it. Now quick commercial break more with Julie Kelly. Have you faced threats for reporting on all of this so extensively?

You know, no, except for weird people on Twitter, you know, bots who are paid to sort of malign my reporting. But no, I mean nothing, nothing serious that I would take seriously. I get that question a lot, and you just, I guess you can't live in fear, you know, you have to. Nothing that I'm reporting is a lie. If people want to dispute details my coverage, that's fine. But when I'm posting motions that are filed in court or what's happening in court, or evidence that's then presented, it's

kind of hard to dispute that. So no, no, I would say overall, No, not yet. Anyway, you know, before we go, you know, we've got this new Judiciary Committee, the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of Federal Government. You've got Speaker Kevin McCarthy releasing this footage. There does seem to be some desire to you know, exposed to get

to the bottom of some of this. What should Congress do, what would you like to see them do on all of this, look, I would ideally like to see them put their biggest bulldogs, pit bulls, whatever you want to call them, on a separate committee. Give them full authority, Give them access to all the video, all the documents that the January sixth Committee produced that are now hidden away, and over a hundred bankers boxes that no one's looked at.

Have them access all the witness testimony, have them show how the January sixth Committee manipulated things to deceive the American people. But more importantly, I think whole DOJ and these federal judges publicly accountable for what they've done and what they are doing to Trump's supporters in the nation's capital. That, in an ideal world, is what I would like, and I do think that there might be some momentum in

that direction. I also think it's just important for people to know, just as we've discussed during all of this, just how extensively the fabric of the country has changed because of a false narrative, you know, pending of the rule of law and the equal application of the law, the political process, the political dynamics of the country, the lies that were told heading into the election, the destruction of so many lives, as you discussed throughout this episode

as well. So I mean, so much has changed as a result of this, and so much damage has been done, which is why we appreciate you, Julie Kelly, for reporting on all of this, staying on top of it more than anyone else, and really just fighting to get to the truth, which the truth is the most important thing we have. Well, I want to thank you to Lisa. A lot of people with a big audience would not really cover my work or talk about what I was signing out early on, and you have from the beginning.

I think our first conversation was about the political prisoners, So I want to thank you is well for your courage because it certainly has not been very popular topic on the right over the last year and a half, but that is dramatically shifting. So I thank you for

being a fighter with me from the beginning. Well, I really appreciate that, And everyone go check out Julie's book January six, how Democrats use the Capitol Protest to launch a war and terror against the political right, would give you more insight into the conversation We just had Julie Kelly. Thanks so much for making the time. I really appreciate it. Thanks, Lisa,

hope to talk with you again soon. That was Julie Kelly talking about the new footage on January sixth, sort of exposing a lot of the lies that we've been told by the media, the political left and even some on the right. Sadly, you know, she's been reporting extensively about this, and you know we thank her for that, the bravery and just wanting to tell the truth. I want to thank you guys at home for listening to the show every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen

throughout the week. I want to thank John cast you and my producer for putting the show together as always. And you know, feel free to leave us a rating on Apple Podcasts or give us a review. Take care until next time.

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