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Episode 11: A One-on-One with Jon Voight

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For this podcast, Jon Voight tells all to Lisa Boothe. From his upbringing in Yonkers, New York to his faith in God and his takes on what’s happening in today’s political arena, Lisa’s in-depth interview takes you on a journey through Jon Voight’s life and what shaped him into the Academy Award-winning actor he is today.

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Up next, The Truth with Lisa Booth at the America is losing its way, not because of the people who just want what's best for their country, they just want what's best for their families, but because of the radical leftist overtaking our culture and the cowardly leads wielding too much power that are trying to drive this country apart. Simply put, America needs to recover its values, recover a traditional way of life. This is the Truth with Lisa Booth.

Welcome back to the Truth with Lisa Booth. I've got a tremendous show for you guys this week. I am so so excited about it because my guest is the one and only John Voight, Academy Award winning actor, all around amazing guy, great patriot as well. He's been an outspoken conservative, unafraid to buck the far left Hollywood establishment.

He's a wonderful storyteller. It's always entertaining, always insightful, and today I asked him about his upbringing, his career, how we got into acting, and of course the state of our country. With that, I want to welcome the great John Voight to the Truth with Lisa Booth. Mr boy, it is my honor. It is my pleasure to speak with you, well, at least it's a pleasure to be

speaking with you. I've been impressed with you, you know, down through the years, even so you don't want to set and you know, expressed my appreciation of what you're doing, and it's it's good to talk to you. Thank you, and just so for everyone to note, So I met Mr Boy on set when I was guest co hosting on Fox and Friends, and you were so kind and so humble and just exceptionally kind. That was something that really stood out to me after meeting you, just how

nice you were to everyone and including myself. And then well that good for me, yes, good for me too, me too. It's much it's much better than the alternative, right you bet, you bet us. And it's not nice to be on the Fox channel when I am, and I pay attention to it, and I've watched your you know work over the years now a couple of years, and it's you just terrific. So it's always nice to see your face and your presence and the various shows that you do. Well, Thank you, sir. That's a huge

honor and huge compliment coming from you. So I really appreciate it, you know, And so I think sometimes, I mean, look, you're a huge Hollywood star. You have had an incredibly long career, an incredibly successful career, and so I think sometimes when someone has been out in the public so so long, they kind of forget you. Who is John Voyett? Like, what was your what was your childhood like? Growing up? Tell us a little bit about your upbringing. I will.

I was just gonna say, you know, life is very short. People say that all the time to the little kids, and then little kids are thinking, oh my god, it's going to be so long before I get to be eighteen or so. It wants so much to advance and grow in all of that, and life is very short, and a career is very short. And at one point somebody asked me, some young lady asked me who was

Carrie Grant? And I couldn't believe that I was listening to this, because in my lifetime he was, you know, such a splendid part of our lives, watching his great movies. And I couldn't believe that the kids didn't know him, you know. And I'm like that now I'm getting older, and so the new ones are coming forth and and uh, it's it's just interesting to look back on different things. Anyway, I I've forgotten the question, what was your childhood like?

Growing up? You know what, what were your parents like? Yeah? So what my child I grew up in Yonkers Younger's, New York, and I had two brothers. We were we were threesome. We were only a year apart, and I was in the middle. And uh, from the earliest time we you know, we were all a rambunctious, very give three kids and my and each one of us went

our different ways. My my younger brother became enamored of music and uh and went on to be a singer songwriter, and he wrote A Wild Thing, an Angel of the Morning, and many many great hits. And he's still writing today and he's a wonderful and he's in the you know, uh, Songwriters Hall of Fame and and stuff. And my older brother, Barry was always when he was a young fellow, was out with his uncle who would come back from the service. This was in the forties, and he would go on

camping trips and stuff. And he was very interested in nature and he would take photographsive of the natural world and different animals and stuff, and and he became a geologist and a a well known volcanologist of volcano expert, and he's he's been faded in put into entered a major society in the scientific society, very elite society and

all of that. You know. So the kid we each of us in our childhood gave evidence of what we wanted to be, and we were given encouragement as kids to follow, you know, whatever wherever our loves took us. And I as a kid was very playful. I was kind of the glue in the family in a certain sense for the children because I I kind of negotiated between my two brothers, who both are fierce energies and

uh and we had a lot of fun. And I was playful, and I would make up games to play and I would When television came along in the fifties, I started watching uh uh Saturday night show hour and a half show called The Show of Show was your Show of Shows? And it started Sid Caesar and Imagene Coca and Carl Reiner and Howard Marks, those four and it was written. This show was very popular at that time, and it was written by mel Brooks Woody Allen Neil Simon,

all of the great comedy writers. Uh, we're part of that show. And so I had a very I didn't know it at the time, but I was being influenced by really brilliant people in the entertainment world. And I used to imitate this fellow, said Caesar a lot from for the entertainment of my classmates. And and and that became as I looked back, I said, wait a minute, I think I probably got more out of that. And I did you know, on the other years, I've certainly

learned from many, many people on the way up. And but but that initial signature was stay with me. So because he was a character comedy actor, right, and I would,

and I became a character actor. I was interested in different kinds of characters and different accents and different behaviors, and that examination into those those areas of acting as to oppose to leading the leading man kind of actor who I have great appreciation for, guys who are pretty much the same in every film, and I just know how to how to do that kind of work and

are very charismatic. And I just I went off into this other world of character acting and was influenced by many people growing into it, you know, and working with great people with Dustin Houton and this, you know. And so how did you get into it, because you know, acting in Hollywood's obviously an incredibly hard career to sort of get your foot in the door. How did you do it? Well, it was a long process for me. No one in my family had any connection to to

you know, zoo acting or you know, entertainment. My band was a golf professional, and he was and I have to say, just take a word about my father was a He was he loved golf. He was a great golf professional. And he had a terrible accident when he's

eighteen years old. Uh, and he wasn't able to pursue it created spin the accident that was happening coming from a golf tournament in Chicago, and and the result of the injury that he had created calcium depotits and a spy and he wasn't able to be flexible, and he wasn't able to play play golf on the tour. So he lost the great love of his life. Really, but he became a great teacher of golf and he and we as his children, gained a father at home. He

wasn't away in the golf tournaments. And with the lures of all of that, he was a great father, and he was a great storyteller. And I don't know to this day how he became so such a good storyteller because he came from immigrant parents. His grand his father couldn't speak very good English, never did pick up a language too well, but was really really charming and funny, a good fellow. But my dad, Uh, with the help

I think of the members of the club. It was a German Jewish country club that people couldn't get into other country clubs because they were Jewish, so they built their own club and my dad was the beneficiary of that and our family and h and I think he probably learned storytelling from those members as he was caddying when he was a very young boy, and the stories he told us at bedtime for several years in our growing up were very key to UH, to us growing

properly and to enjoyment of things and insights into things, because he would always put little messages into the stories and stuff. And whenever you get into that phase of it, he's he gave well, you know, boys, you've got to you know, know that you won't be able to run as fast always, and you will be able to and and and so you have to we'd say, tell the story, to get back to the story, get back to the story. We were very impatient. We didn't why did they tell us?

But the messages head home, I think. And uh. And because of that, man, you know, a lot, a lot I have to give my my father and mother great credit for for whatever good I have in my personality today. But anyway, so we we grew up in in that in that kind of an atmosphere when I was young, and I got caught, as I say, with this imitating and being playful and all of that stuff, and I thought I would go into it. I never you know,

it was a very interesting journey that I took. But at the end of my college career, my my junior year of college, right before I went into my senior college. Uh. And I was at College of Catholic University in Washington, d C. Which had a very good drama department, but I was in the art department because I thought I could get more more attention to other things. I was very active in the in the let's say, the politics, but also just a social life of the university. And

that was very good training for me. I must say I enjoyed that and I grew from it. But I kept asking people what I should do? What do you think I should do? You know, who should I be? A lawyer? Should I? And I thought about, you know, maybe a politician may be a teacher. Teacher, I'd be a good teacher, and things like that, And and then I was walking around campus with a book and I looked at at one point I saw this book, and

I said, what am I doing in this book? And of course I knew when I was in the book. But it was a book of criticisms of stage work in the Golden Age of the British theater, with Laurence Olivier and Ralph Richardson and John Gielden, those saws. And it was by Kenneth Tynan, the leading critic at that time, and he was very gave very elaborate descriptions of the different performances in their effects. And I underlined and made

notes on all of Laurence Olivier's performances. The rest of it I wasn't so interested in, but in his performances I saw something about how he approached the character that he was playing, and how he his choices in building a character made a difference in the impact of the of the play. I somehow understood that maybe I got it from my you know, my father and the way he told stories, because because I ingested all of that understanding, and and then maybe just there was a talent there

for me. I saw something. I saw how you affect a story. So you so you grabbed the attention of the people, and you moved them to this kind of thing, and and and once and I looked at that and I said, actually, I think I even verbally said as out loud. It was a load on campus looking at this book. And I said, I know what I want to do. I want to be him. I pointed to, you know, something of Olivier's you know, so that's and once I that moment, that epiphany that happened right there,

that was it. I knew I was going to graduate after this senior year, and I was going to go on to New York and I was going to study. And I knew in my mind at that time these are the things that I remember very visit, you know, I said, I and I know I'm not going to give up. I'm going to do it. I'm gonna be a success. In other words, I knew it was going to be challenging. I know what he's going to go up to death, but I knew I would. I know

it's stick with it. I knew would be okay. But nobody else if certainly your parents don't when you're going going towards such a shaky career, you know, you you don't know if your child is going to be able to make a living. Sur just one moment, we have to take a quick break and then we'll get right back to it. You know, you hear about the Hollywood industry. I mean you're out at castings and it's really it's hard to get in the door, and you read stories

about people getting your story. But that's exactly well, I have family, I have family, I have family in the industry, but I've also you know, you like you read about different people's stories, like Sylvester Stallone stories always stood out to me as well, and sort of his hustle and getting you know, Rocky started. But how did you persevere? Like what what what was that just trying to get

your foot your feet in the door. What was that like for you of just trying to get that that first gig, that that that first opportunity, that first ability to show what you had to offer. What was that like for you? Well, you don't you when you start out, you certainly don't have a lot of experience to tell you who you are and what you do to see, so you have to gain some experience, and you have to And I looked for a teacher right away in New York, got a little apartment in New York with

two other guys. Thankfully they went almost never there, so I had the place to myself. It was a little bear apartment and there was a great Greek restaurant cafeteria downstairs, which was very reasonable and kept me alive. And uh, but I tried to go to I went to classes, I talked to actors, I took a try out for everything. All of that stuff, right, didn't have much success in the beginning and long periods of drought, And if I finally got I got into an acting coach and he

wasn't good. I turned out to be very bad. I wasn't I wasn't learning anything. I was actually going backward. And then finally I got a teacher who was one of the one of the great teachers at that time, Sanford Meisner. Sanford Meisner and Stella Adler and Lee Strasburg were the three great teachers at that time that that you were fortunate enough to you were fortunate if you had any contact with And so I learned a basic,

kind of basic for the for the craft. And of course I had I had something in me that was an I knew about entertainment. I could entertain people. I did have abilities that I knew, but how they applied in the real world I didn't know. So so I worked very hard. And then when I got through that, and I had a little jobs too. Always I got a little job, and I got a little job on Broadway actually with the very early on playing the Telegraph Boy and sound of Music, Ralph the fellow who turns

the family in, and and the and anyway. So I had some success. I knew that I knew I had something, and that kept me going. Uh. And then finally, after I finished a couple of years with Mr. Meisner, I was looking to get a job that would show off these talents that I had, and I finally got a view from the bridge which is an Arthur Miller play. It was the first production of the long the long version of that play. And it's a very great play,

I have to say. And and I was and I got that role, and I worked with Robert Daval Bobby Duval, and it just happened that Bobby Duvall was good friends with Dustin Hoffman and was asked and Dusty was also connected to this director role of gross part and he showed up to help out with with the directing of the piece. So I met Dustin Hoffman, you know, in that in that time, and he saw me do some very good work. That was the first time that I realized that I had achieved something in the class work

and that I had found some ground, you know. And it was like it was like a base to fly from in a way. I experienced a lot of a lot of things in that particular time period where I learned about myself. I was very entertaining in the character I think I was, and I was very moving and powerful as well. So it was a great role and the role that was fit to me, and I made a mark and therefore I had, you know, a step up. Now people were going to be looking at me, and

that's what happened. And you've been in a ton of successful films, you know, starting with you know, Midnight Cowboy. That was a big break for you too, even more recently winning a Golden Globe for the television series Raid Donovan, Why do you think you've been able to have such a long and sustained career when so many haven't been able to do that? First of all, a good fortune, I think, you know, I was lucky. But also there's a little bit of a mystery to me, and it's

a spiritual aspect. Uh the I was in bad behavior. As I look back, and things happened to me where I changed my perspective on things and I was lifted from that. I was able to get it, get away from that, and I became very connected. Although I grew up a Catholic, and when I hit New York kind of lost that, you know, I kind of left that behind and got in trouble with it, you know, got away from this understanding of God and and the and the rules of life and stuff, and even the examples

of my parents, who were admirable people. I lost my way a little bit, and then I came back around and Because of that, I turned into and you know, a person who was devoted to God and did a lot of meditation and I was able to change and in that change many things happened that it was quite I have some stories to tell about the mysteries of that, But I would I would say that's the mark that kept me going, uh, you know, giving me a lift when I was very down. I said prayers, and the

prayers were answered and then ways. So so I'd say, there's a spiritual aspect and you talk about God a lot. And you know, right now in the country, we're saying at the klient in religious affiliation over the past few years. Do you think that's why we're having so many problems as a country right now. Well, I would say yes, I would say yes. I would say we've lost our moorings. You know, the stuff that they're feeding our children right

now is very disturbing. Uh. You know, there used to be Remember there's a book everything that you need to know you were learned in kindergarten, you know, and that was a good book because it showed you how much morality and and real basics for life we're taught in kindergarten. Taking responsibility for yourself and all sorts of things. And we've gotten and now the children are being given poison, uh from all of these woke teachings have to say.

And we've let our guard slip and we have to recapture that ground otherwise we're we're doomed society and uh. And I feel that we're starting to understand that too. And that's why I you know, the last video that I that I released was very strong, and I have helped to get these videos done, you know, to do these videos. But I perhaps i'd read it to you and we can talk about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you you know what what concerns you right now the most?

In taking a look at the country? You know you're you're talking about. I watched the videos that you do. I know that you you tweet them out as well, sir, and you're a very vocal conservative. What taking a look at where we are right now is a nation? What concerns you the most? What concerns me the most is that we've we've lost our moorings and and we're being overtaken by really it's it's a it's an evil that is trying to overtake this country and all the greatness

of this country. Why is it that people want to come to this country? Why is it that people are breaking down, you know, our borders to get to us, And and why is it that the people who are most concerned about us are people from who have lived under this this tyranny of of socialism, of communism, you know, across the world, people from Poland, people from Russia, people from Cuba. We're turning into a venezuela. And they see it. They can see it clearly because it happened to them.

They went through all of this, this horror and said no and lost their countries. And they see the same thing happened to the United States, and this was the place that they came to because they needed to say to get to a safe shore, they needed to get to freedom, they needed to get the opportunity. And and now they see that this country, too, is is falling under under this evil influence. And and so that's that's my concern at this time. I think we all have

to be very, very concerned. And and therefore I I do everything I can because I've gone through a lot of this myself from the sixties, and I see how it's happened, and I know that the people must be courageous and learned and fight this battle for our future generations. We have to start. We have to stand up here. This is it at such an interesting point. Mr Boye, hold that thought right there. We have to take a break. I just I have a fundamental respect for people that

go their own way. You know, it's it's so easy to follow the crowd. It's so easy to follow a group. It's much harder to stand alone and your convictions and in your strength and what you believe, and that is what you do. You're exceptionally brave, particularly in an industry that doesn't really care for, you know, different diversity and ideology. How how has it been like for you as a conservative in an industry that typically seems to all be on one side of the aisle? Has that been hard?

It's going to be difficult. It's costing new work, of course, because people will are afraid to um. It's the people who would would have common sense are afraid to be exposed for having common sense. Can you imagine what's going on? Yeah, it's really nuts. So I'm kind of a I'm a person that everyone Thank God that I've had some success in my life so that I can people know that when they hire me, I'm going to give a good representation of the work and and maybe make their peace

more successful and uh all of that. But people are are afraid to be exposed at this time for questioning this. This. I think this this this bad behavior that's going on all over the place. But uh, it's it's interesting. It's a battle, it's a bottle and and and it's in this industry. You see. Initially the KGB targeted the United States and and crusechev said, you know, we won't will overcome you, but we won't do it with guns. You know, we'll just you'll vote vote us into office. That's what

he said, you know. Uh, And that's pretty much what's happened. I mean, they know what they're doing. They targeted They targeted the film industry because of its influence. They targeted schools. Uh and because we're in a country of freedom, freedom of speech, they used it for there as a tool for themselves. They took advantage of it, and we were we didn't see it coming. So there's an awful lot to be said about this, of course, and they're better

they're smarter people than I do. Well, and I work in the media, sir, and you know, I see you. Unfortunately, I work for a network that really tries to get both sides of the aisle when you look at other networks that do not, like see Ann and MSNBC. But I see how you know, a lot of the mainstream media really pushes the left Propageau. What role do you think Hollywood plays and that as well? Well, I think it's a very big surprise that the media can be

so so captured, so overtaken. How could this be? Don't journalists have any sense of pride even you know, don't they? But you know they're they're they're low in the totem poles. So they keep the mouth shut and they just do their jobs. You see, they repeat the party line. This is just like rush. I mean, this is just like PROVDA. There's no difference. You read the New York Times, You're getting funny stuff. So so what what is it? What does the guy do? He wants to feed his family

and he needs to keep his job. It's those pressures that they keep it going. I think, So who's going to stop this? Well, there are many brave people that are stepping up and great brave teachers who are in our the industry, the entertainment austry, and in the you know, in the news industry that are stepping up and giving us a direction. So we have to find those people and stick with them and support them. What was it about conservatism? You know, when did you become a conservative?

And what convinced you? Know you talked about your journey with religion. What was your journey alike in politics? My journey in politics was that I was susceptible to being in the sixties. I was just learning to going to school to learn to act, wanting to be one of those actors that works all the time, you know, needing to have success and trying to find roles, trying to find all of this stuff. And I was available to all of the The politics of that time, which was anarchisms,

took place in the streets of the United States. You know, there was a lot of things going on, and I when I look back, I say, well, what happened was really from the trauma of losing John Kennedy. I was a big supporter of Kenny. I mean it was I was infatuated with Kennedy, was very it seemed like the answer to many things. He was very idealistic, and he had this nice way about him and I believed in it.

And then and the country did too, and suddenly he was murdered, and I think everyone was I think everyone was hurt by that. When we talk about trauma, I think everybody knew where they were when they heard that news. I think the fact is that nobody really could figure out what exactly happened to this day, and and after that things became We had no leadership in the top.

That's what I felt. That leadership we believed in, and that's my personal Everyone knows where they were at the time they heard that news, and so I would say that was a big blow, and in moved all of this leftism, some from from the people in the streets who were just advocating free love and this and you know all that stuff. But that was also planted by by very clever people from the left, which means the Communists and the Russian KGB, the German group, the Frankfurt

School came in. They were on the left, and so all of these distortions that took place were manipulated, and that was the beginning now since that time, we we had one break where we President Reagan and things were more clear and different and better, but it didn't last very long, and we took our eye especially when the Soviet Union collapsed. We felt we had no you know, no enemies anymore, and we took our eye off the ball.

And that's when they moved in. That's when the forces that they had started in the sixties moved into our schools or education. So they had been moving into the education system and took over our industry and and and took over the media. So and we can you can you can chart that out and see here as and villains in that process. But that's that's where we are now. We're really facing a takeover. Well, there's just such censorship.

I mean, you talked about tyranny earlier. I mean we look at the fact that the president, the former president of United States was banned from so social media. We have big tech actively taking a role in silencing or suppressing information. I mean even today, if you try questioning election, despite the fact that Democrats whied about the election for years, if you try questioning an election where we had an unprecedented amount of mail in ballots in the middle of

a pandemic. Uh, you know, you get needed as some sort of conspiracy theorist. Why do you think that is? Why? Why can't we question the results of election? Well, this has been launching Donald Trump has been very interesting because Donald who is Donald Trump, Donald Trump as a fellow, is very very successful, has many gifts, obvious gifts prior to becoming president, right. Uh, certainly got to work with many different aspects of our society to put up the

beautiful buildings that he has, you know, gotten accomplished. It's changed the skyline of of you know, New York City and the world. Really many many different buildings across the world. And he's used to working with all sorts of different things, you know, in order to get permissions that you have to work with the different city councils and all sorts of stuff and and architects and building materials. You have

to budget stuff, and he had to. He has a tremendous arsenal of talents that he's uh that he's been creator, you know, calling over the years, and and then he becomes president United States. Now he becomes president United States, and people didn't know where he was going to go. If you remember, they didn't know whether he was going to be conservative or whether he was too much on the left, because he's been you know, he's been friends with Hillary Clinton for you know, put money into this that,

and then all of a sudden he starts. But but somebody knew because before he was, before he was actually sworn in, they said they're going to impeach him, didn't they? The left and the Democrat Party knew he was dangerous to them because why why he hadn't done anything yet. Part of it was because he didn't have any respect for the swamp, you know, the way things go. He wasn't You couldn't corrupt him, you couldn't buy him. Oh wow, that's that stuff, you see. But did how did they

see the power that he was? And it's very interesting they were They were went after him with everything they had right from the beginning, and he was very friendly to many of these people who were leadership in the Democrat Party. So something's way off, you see. They knew somehow that he was going to be dangerous to them, and in fact he was because he's because he's a good, god fearing man who has a great talent for leadership and he was going to go in and he said,

I'm going to clean this up a little bit. And he did everything he said he did. And perhaps it was the promises he made as he grew towards the election that he said he was going to do this close, you know, close for the war at the border, take you know, take on the challenge of of China, do all redo the trade, all of these things that he said he was going to do. He actually did the most amazing thing because no one has ever done so

much in such a short period of time. And and when you think that he was attacked every day that he was in office, it's unbelievable. But what do you think happened? Because you've said before, um, you know, you're disgusted with the lie that Biden has been chosen as if we all don't know the truth, what do you think the truth is about? Oh well, I mean I think you said it. I mean, there's so much evidence

that it was it was a stolen election. I take this back to the moment when Soros realized that Trump had been elected by the American people and he said, this is a disaster, and he meant it, and Soros is a very interesting character, and he represents all of the stuff that's going on. Ah, he's anti Trump in every way, and he was not. And he uses all his billions two infiltrate into the schools with all his foundations and all this is organizations all misnomer by the way,

because they all represent themselves on being patriotical. They're not like like looking at the Constitution. And then it really is an attack on the Constitution and that's given to the you know, kids in colleges. I mean, he's really a supporter of everything at the American So so anyway that when he said that, it was like saying, Okay, threw down the ground, but he's gonna he's never gonna

let this happen again. And it was he and the Democratic leadership and all of the people on the left who gathered together to stop this man and to make sure that this next election would not repeat itself. And of course they had a big problem because Donald Trump gave us the best economy we've ever had, and he was doing all all sorts of things you know that we dreamed would be accomplished. It needed so badly to

be done. We were seeing you know, the the country go down hill, and all of a sudden, this man comes up and has insights and almost every area of the problem and corrects it as he goes. Well, some quite something and and they were going to but they were going to bring him down. So they gathered every force they could and tried every deceitful, you know, method to attack him and slander him, and they still couldn't do it until COVID And so you have to question

that too. But then coming down to the election, they weren't going to do They weren't gonna let this happen. They just weren't happen. So that you get all of these things about, you know, well, just weakening all the ability for people to make a proper vote and be

properly counted. And that's what they did all across the country, And they used every method, and they encouraged every kind of bad behavior and uh and I and and those blackouts, you know, there's several hour blackouts in the main states, unbelievable, and that turned the tide. So yeah, I think I think we have to pay very close attention to it, and hopefully, you know, the truth will emerge and we'll catch these people who are this is real, This is

real criminal behavior of the highest order. Do you think President Trump should run again or who do you think? Who are you looking at as the future of the Republican Party. Well, I think we have many great people. Actually we should take heart that we have many great people in the Republican Party who have stepped up too, have gone through this, you know, standing standing tall. I can name you know, dozens and that, and that's a that's good. But right now I'm I'm watching President Trump

to see what he's going to do. I think I think we have to just wait and see. There obviously are other people who can run, uh and be successful, and I think the country will show itself next November in a very strong way. But I'm watching President Trump. He still has enormous influence. People love this man for what he has done and for that way he handles himself how much. You know what you mentioned The next election, which I think is probably one of the most consequential

elections we've ever had an American history. Personally, I think it's going to determine if we become, you know, a communist, authoritarian type nation or a nation that is still a republic that still believes believes in the foundings of our country. How much of a referendum do you think it will be on the Biden administration. Well, of course it's going to be, But then again, it's gonna be You're gonna look to the polls to see if you have the ability.

And the Biden administration is changing everything. They're doing a lot of damage on a daily basis, and they're trying to and the Democrat Party is trying to overthrow all of the constitutional strengths of our country. Lenn can I can I just read? Let me read because a lot of people haven't seen that video. Let me read the words right now, Biden is these are the words. Biden has taken all Trump's works and switched to Obama's carefully

instructed instructions. This nation is in complete chaos. Let us pray for a moment. Let us bless this nation for a moment. My dear friends, my fellow Americans. Donald J. Trump was our savior. This new administration has turns us upside down with deceit and destruction. We're all in the same frame of mind, hoping, praying for God's miracle, a miracle that can cross us over like the parting of the See Jesus spoke, Moses spoke, Let God speak, Let

God heal all our suffering souls. And let President Trump feel this because he was truly following God's call, not the swamp that destroys. I want to get to the end of it, because it's very important. He President Trump had a gift for all people, all nations. He loved this country, and he did say it until the left wing distorted all his work and turned it into the

their deceit. We the people who have faith, We the people that love our country, the U s A. We all must focus on what is truly truths, what and who has our best interests. Be aware, my fellow Americans, the Biden administration has destroyed our nation. But my friends, God has a plan. He will show that truths will win. No man can lie, stale, or take away the one truth.

And that is the power of God, the power of righteousness, the power of Abraham Lincoln's work, the note he left for his nation that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from this earth. I really do think, you know, we talked about earlier about sort of looking at God and family, and I think that's part of the reason why the

left tends to de emphasized religion. They tend to de emphasized families, because if you're rooted in these things that are deeper and more important than government, you're not looking to government. I mean, they really want a population that is completely dependent on the government, that's dependent on them, that doesn't have you know that aren't that aren't rooted in core convictions like family and religion. It seems sense. You know, of the COVID stuff to stay in your house,

do do this? Do that? Where your mass? Where three mess do? What are you doing? They spend their time with that. They don't spend their time solving anything. They have no understanding of governance. Certainly they have no understanding of the economy. I mean, when listen, this is a

long story with communism. When Lenin took over in Russia the Bolsheviks, after four years, he killed four million people, starved more four million people than to death, and ten years later over five million people were starved by Joseph Stalin. I was there in the early nineties and I was witnessed to the misery that the people lived under. And this is what we're voting in now. We we we have we've got to stop this. We've got to know that we have a great country with a tremendous, you know,

set of principles and instructions. We have to get back to it, to our happiness. And we're suffering right now, and and we have to prevail. The truth has to prevail. Now. We have to stand up. Do you think that's why I'm You know, Martin Luther King said that he wanted his kids to grow up in a nation that they were judged on the content of their character versus the

color of their skin. But it seems like the left is pushing, uh, this idea that everyone views each other from a racial prism as a prisment versus just looking at each other as human beings or fellow Americans. You know, why do you think we've arrived at this point of such racial division? Yeah, well, it's it's been inserted into our country because of all of this stuff, the gender stuff that came with the private school. You know, we

we we've been invaded. We got to know where this came from and and you know, reveal it to folks, um the this this whole nonsense of you know, diversity training programs that are not about racial sensitivity there are about demonizing white people now and the constitutional order of individual freedom, equality and accountability that the American founders created.

Dressing up a racial attack, you know, like this and demand for conformity as racial sensitivity towards minorities is perhaps well, it's the only way such an anti democratic set of ideas could possibly be imposed on the American mind. But anyway, we're dealing with real bad stuff here, bad thinking. What's the path forward? Because you've you've been a student of this, You've paid a lot of attention over the years, which is obvious in my conversation with you. You know, what's

what's your hope for America? What's your hope for the future. I say, righteousness is done dead. God has not left his chair, you know. I say, it's this is It's not it's not just going to church. It's not understanding that we were here for what? What? What is a life worth? What is a life? We have to ask that question. Our lives are are given us an opportunity to grow, to learn lessons, to grow strong, to help to look to other people. What is the basic golden rule?

Do one too others? Well, all of that is missing. Now let's not do do onto others. Meet has another meaning. Now do it to your you know, the your enemy, do it. Do it to the masses, do it. But you know, it's this totalitarian thing that that the American founders put behind us, put behind the world. We were the you know, the Declaration of Independence. Uh, you know these words, and the Declaration of Independence changed three thousand years of tyranny. We've watch forth government by the people.

You know, in a very beautiful, very considered way, that these instructions that are in our constitution are golden. And we changed the world what we thought forever, but now we're being pulled back. So anyway, the answer is that God is real and we have to be we have to be our better selves, and we have to stand now for our children and the future children. And what's next for you? You've you've confort you've accomplished a tremendous amount in your life. What do you want to do?

What's next for you? Oh? Well, I'm you know, I'm eighty two years old and I'm still very very active and uh, you know, and pretty good health and you know, and I still love acting, so I'll still do my work as an actor, you know, the best I can. I probably never never somebody asked me if I would retire as No, I don't think I'm going to retire as long as I can still play something, you know, uh, the available. But the idea for me is I'm looking after this country the best I can. I feel so

much my citizenship to this country. I'm so proud to be an American patriot and to understand what was given to us and to find my myself allied with the great people of our history. Um. All those wonderful people who have been given memorials in d C. They're they're great, great people. All those words on the walls, I understand them. And so I'll carry on the best I can to see if I can do everything I can be or have to leave. Sir. I have a tremendous amount of

respect for you. You are an incredibly talented actor, You're a patriot, and hopefully now I can call you a friend. UM. And it's been in such an honor to have this conversation with you, and I I so appreciate your time. It means the world to me is my pleasure to be with you. I didn't find this in this conversation. As much as I'd like about you, What would you like to ask before we go? I'd really like to know what your parents were like, what you what your

siblings were like? How did you grow up? Because you, at a very early age have got so much clarity and so much drive. It's wonderful. I so appreciate that. Thank you, sir. You know, I grew up my parents are very religious. They're Christians. They believe in God. So they taught us belief in God, taught us to you know, respect others, to be kind to others, to you know, try to practice what you preach. I grew up, you know, similar to what you were talking about with your dad.

You know, my my parents have always been the people that, you know, no matter what you want to do in life, we support you. And there's even been times where you know, I've left jobs. I took a gamble, you know, I left a great job to take a gamble on TV to see if I could get a contract and make it work. And I you know, didn't really have a plan in place. It was sort of It was sort of something that just came up and it arised and

I had to make a decision. And my parents were fully supportive of it because they knew I loved television. They knew that was my dream. So I was very blessed, like you to have parents that were just very supportive, and you know, we're there, loved, unconditionally supportive no matter what, always there to pick you up. And which is why

I believe that family nucleus is everything in life. And I grew up with three brothers, so I had an older brother who you know, says that he made me tough, you know, practicing, you know, wrestling moves and you know, stuff like that. But yes, I grew up in an environment where family is everything, you know, and especially I'm sure you feel this way, you know, working in in

Hollywood and working and acting. You know, look media as a fickle beast, right, So it's you know, things are going great today and I'm fortunate for that, and I've worked hard. I blessed to have what I have for now, but it could go way tomorrow. And so if that happens, what are you left with and what really matters in life? And you know, it's friends, it's family, it's the people around you. It's the things that are so much more important than work or money or or any of this

other stuff. So I try to keep that in the back of my mind too. In an industry that I know so fickle, so up and down. Uh, and you never know where it's gonna end up. You know, even a week from now. Well, you're doing very very well. You're blessed to have great gifts, you know so, and you're using them wisely. So I'm i'm I'm excited about what's gonna happen to you. Thank you, sir, Okay, it's been an honor. You're the best. I appreciate your time. Bye.

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