Disrupting Congress with Blake Masters

a disruptor. I mean, he's raised a ton of campaign cash off of things like n f T s and so I want to ask him and really get to the heart of how do you want to disrupt Congress? What do you want to do? This is also someone who's really made waves with a lot of the things he said, like this, add the Second Amendment is not about duck hunting. It's about protecting your family and your country. What's the first thing the Taliban did when Joe Biden

handed an Afghanistan? They took away people's guns. That's how it works. Isn't it weird to hear someone actually just speak the truth? Is that the whole point of the Second Amendment to protect us from tyranny and look at authoritarian regimes. You look at when communism takes over, what do they do? They shut down the press, they shut down free speech, and they take away your guns. So honesty is refreshing, and that's what Blake Masters does. He's

really honest. He recently came under attack for saying that the gender pay gap was a left wing narrative. Also true, but so many Republicans are afraid to say things like that. Why It's a really fascinating interview with someone who has already done a lot in his life. He's an author as well, who's already accomplished a lot and wants to do more, possibly as a United States Senator. I think you're really going to enjoy this conversation with a fascinating person.

So stay tuned for my interview with Blake Masters. Blake Masters, thanks so much for joining the show. My pleasure. Thank you for having me so Blake, you are through? Do you five years old? You're the president of the Peter Teel Foundation, CEO of Teal Capital. I assume you were making bank and crushing it. Why run for Senate? It's a good question. A lot of my friends ask that, they're like, dude, what's wrong with you? But you know what it. It just seems like the most important thing

I could be doing. You know, I don't mean that to sound cliche. I literally think we are losing this country. Um I just said yesterday. Uh. It pains me to say it. But at this rate, America is on track to become a third world country by the time my boys, who were eight and six and two years old and heart high school. And that's not okay with me. You know, Arizona is not a purple state, it's not a blue state.

But somehow we have two Democrats editors. And uh, I just thought, let me let me hit pause on this business career because I can go in. I can beat Mark Kelly. Uh and I can make a change. I can I can actually show the kind of new leadership that we need. So it feels important. I thought I'd be good at it. I think I'm showing I'm the guy who could beat Mark Kelly. And uh and here I am. You know. And so you got involved in Peter Chiel's world. Well, obviously everyone knows he's been involved

in politics. He's a billionaire, co founded PayPal. When you were attending class and he was teaching about startups and you were a student at Stanford, and you started posting these detailed notes on the line, which ended up leading the groundwork for a book that you co authored with Peter TiO called zero to One Notes on Startup or How to Build the Future. What was he saying that you found so interesting in terms of, you know, posting it online and sharing it with everyone else. Honestly, it

was just fresh and original content. You know, I've been to a lot of classes up until that point, all of high school, all of undergrad most of law school, and you know, the professors, they're smart people, but mainly they're just telling you about what's in some book, you know, and it's very formulaic, and all of a sudden, here's Peter Kiel. You know, this was I guessleven when when I met him, when he first saught a class, and you know, all I knew was he was successful. He

founded PayPal, you know, billionaire. Congratulations. That's great. But he wasn't just like telling wars stories from PayPal. There was some of that. But you know, one class we're talking about peak oil and what the future of energy was

going to look like. Uh, and then the next class session we'd be doing some you know, textual exegesis from obscure Abraham Lincoln's speech, you know, and then the next section we're talking about nuclear energy and and and this is just he was kind of all over the place. But after three or four class sessions, I realized, no,

it wasn't all over the place. He had formulated you know, these different cuts, these different angles uh of looking at the world, and all this stuff was tying together, and it was fascinating to see sort of fresh and original content uh from somebody. It stuck out and I knew, man, this guy, he's he's thinking about things, uh in a different way, in the next level way. This is exciting. I better take notes. I mean, I'm not gonna lie Blake.

I wouldn't mind being a billionaire. But but you know, so, you know, if you look at Congress, it's it's mostly you know, old and and boring people. And you're sort of talking about how you know, Peter was disruptive and that sort of intrigued you. I mean, you're kind of running as this disruptive force running for Senate. I mean you've fundraised off of n f T S, which is entirely different than you know, most people running for Senate.

Do how do you think someone as young as you was sort of this smart, this startup mentality, how do you plan on disrupting Congress? Well, it's really interesting because I think the same old playbook just so obviously doesn't work anymore. Right, It's like you, you have some good people in Congress, but not most of them, and I just it's so it's so borring. It's just follow the process. Follow the process. Nobody wants to debate substance anymore, nobody

wants to try anything new. Um and And you know, on the one hand, I'm very conservative. I believe in the timeless principles that this country was founded on. I believe in our original design, in our in our constitution, um and so there's something very old about that obviously. But we've got to get back to that. And I don't think you get back to that just by following where politics has been going, as if on autopilot. You know,

I'm tired of zombie Republicans. They just want to get in line and listen to whatever ship, whatever leadership says, and who don't want to innovate. I think we need fresh thinking. I think we need new thinking. And so I'm just trying to run a bold campaign. UM, trying to be as bold as possible, say the truth as I see it. Methodologically, we're trying to innovate, right. I had to get creative with fund grazing UM and so yeah, we sold some n f T s and you know,

I offered some some dinners just right on Twitter. I said, Hey, if you want to donate the maximum MOP to my campaign, you can come have dinner with me and Peter Tiele, you know, And that got a good uptake. We've had some fantastic dinner conversations UM as an innovative way to raise money, and so I'm just trying to do new things. Uh. And I think once I get there, you know, I'm going to continue. That's when the real work begins. I don't think to sort of go along to get along

Republicanism makes sense anymore. I'm tired of Republicans who just want to play defense while they left the left set the agenda. Well, I totally agree with you, and that's why I wanted to have you on this podcast and why I'm interested in your candidacy. I mean, we're sort of we're entering into this post truth world. Where boys can be girls, girls can be boy boys. Were you know, nothing is truth anymore, right, And so what I appreciate about what you're doing is you say the truth, which

is almost sadly controversial these days. You know, for instance, you just came under attack for talking about the gender pay gap and saying it's a left wing narrative, it's not real. Were you surprised by the reaction that those comments got. I mean, not really. I guess I'm surprised that, you know, they acted like it was this gotcha. This was a public forum that we had all the Senate candidates except Bard of it. She doesn't show up to

these things, but most of us are there. And uh, you know, we got asked this question about the Equal Rights Amendment. UM sort of idiots incredit question. It's not like I'm going out and campaigning on the gender pay gap myth every day. But you know, when I'm asked a question, I don't just hipot too safe talking points. I just again, I say the truth as I see it.

And so I got asked this question and back in February, and it was the public form, right, I knew it was being recorded, and it's in front of hundreds of people. But I just said the truth, which is that in this country, men and women they're not paid different amounts for equal work. If you actually know how to measure this stuff and you can get it, you can get

the statistics from you know, the government's website. UM, women are paid about the same as men when you control, uh, for for choices, When you control for um, you know who's doing the jobs and what their relative skill levels are. And so it's just a myth. And I said that, And so what happened clearly was this is the week where all the left wing media just started to attack me. And so this was in some Democrat Operats AFO file.

They fed it to MSNBC. MSNBC published the video. They thought it would be this huge gotcha, and it turns out everybody, you know, in the in the Twitter comments, everybody on social media is just like, actually, Blake sort of write about that. You know, they haven't updated their talking points from fifteen months ago, and so I think the fifteen years ago, and so I think this whole

thing was actually net positive for me. They're giving me attention, pretending like the truth that I'm saying is is, you know, some horrible thing. Actually it's just true. Well and it was hilarious because I can't remember which article was, but they're trying to dispute you, and they're like, well some say this, but like there's also you know, like it

wasn't really outright disputing you. I mean, they're almost proving your point that you know it's not an apples to apples or you know there's other variants involved, which is essentially what you're saying is when you look at all variants, it's not a true narrative. But it was funny because they didn't really dispute your case, but you know, and you sort of made waves. I mean, you had a campaign at about the Second Amendment, which I played in

the intro for our audience. And what you're saying is that you said the Second Amendment is not about duck hunting. It's about preventing or protecting your family and country. You know, what's the first thing the Taoiband did when Joe Biden handed them Afghanistan? They took away people's guns. I mean, you're right about the Second Amendment is a defense against tyranny. Do you think more people unders and that now having gone through yeah. Absolutely. It's like, you know, the Republicans

already had guns. I think conservatives, especially in Arizona, we already had guns if you look at who bought guns for the first time during the COVID pandemic. You know, when people are tuning into CNN and CNN is saying, hey, these protests are mostly peaceful. Meanwhile, you know, in the back of the reporter there's just like police precincts being lit on fire. I think a lot of independence and even a lot of Democrats are like, oh, the police

are coming under attack. Doesn't feel so good. Maybe I'll go out and buy a gun. And so I think the gun control thing is is completely dead. Um. Obviously the left still wants to disarm normal, law abiding American citizens, but I don't think that's gonna happen anymore. And then we can't let up. We have to prosecute the case. But the Second Amendment, it's not about hunting, you know.

And I'm tired of Republicans just making ads, you know TV commercials where they put on the camouflage and the and the orange safety vests and they're going out and shooting, you know, uh, some some trap or something I'm fine with hunting, I'm fine for sporting use of firearms obviously, But the real point of the Second Amendment is political. It's to defend yourself against threats ultimately against government maurity and pitches the left off when you say that to them,

it's like nails on a chalkboard. But again, it's simply true. It's bold, it is provocative, and I think that's the sweet spot. That's where Republican messaging needs to be well. And I think that's what a lot of Republicans don't understand is and what you know, you've understood, what President Trump understood, what Governor to Santa's understands, is that when you go on offense, Republicans can win on a lot

of these issues. But for far too long, Republicans kind of coward to the media and you know, bought into these fake premises and we're so afraid of their own shadows. And I think Republicans are finally starting to get it. But we need more people like you. We need more people like Governor to Santas and Trump who are are fighting back and you know, going on off and ultimately,

I think that's the path forward for Republicans agree. And you know, I always like to contrast the presidential election with the election, you know, Mitt Romney, I think when he lost in twelve, one reason was because he was too damned nice, you know. And I'm not saying you should go out of your way to be mean to people for no reason, but you can't. Can't be so nice, so obsessed with your own niceness that you crave the attention and the adoration and the respect of the media.

Because most of the corporate media at this point it's just really bad, most of his left wing um you could best think of these people as like extensions of the modern Democratic Party. And so when Mitt Romney was terrified inelve about being called a racist, right and he

was running gast Obama, he was just so nice. It was like, oh, Mr Obama is a good man, and I'm a good man, and we have some good faith policy disagreements, and that was just he misread what was happening that was to save the country election, and and so he lost, and you and they called him racist anyway, by the way, right like they call him literally hitler, and and he just he just caved. And then four years later along comes President Trump. Right then candidate Trump.

He came down the escalator and he knew that they were going to hit him with everything, and he didn't care. I don't think Romney's racist, to be clear, I know Trump's not racist, but Trump knew that they were going to call him that, and he let it beat off him like water, right, because they're gonna say this. You just gotta go forward. You gotta go right through it. You've got to prosecute that bold agenda. You can't care

about seeking the adoration of the modern media. And when you play offense, not only do voters reward you, but then you can actually get stuff done, and that is

just so important. Well, and to your point, I think that the difference between Mitt Romney and President Trump is you know when Mitt Romney and he was also accused of being sexist, and his response was, well, I had binders full of women, which then kind of makes you feel like, well maybe you are so like I don't know, you're sort of buying you know, yeah, yeah, it's you're playing defense. No. Actually, I have lots of black friends.

You know, it's weird, you know, it's you can't can't accept the left wing friend, you can't be caught on your heels well, and like Trump I remember, I think it was like one of his first interviews after he had won, when he was president, and it was with a crap I'm blanking on the dude's name from I can see his face ABC David Muir and um, I'm glad I got that because I would have bothered me

if I can't remember. And he was asking Trump about the Women's March, and then President Trump's response was like, yeah, well March for Life is coming up, but you never cover that, and his face like dropped because they're not used to that kind of response where you're just like blatantly not buying into this BS narrative that they're pushing. So, you know, that was a game changer, and I'm glad to see. You know, Republicans have have sort of changed that.

But you've also made waves on you know, a lot of other issues as well. We've seen recently with this Roverse Wade fight. Uh, you would say that you actually don't believe states should have the right to permit abortions, you know, talk about that, stay on a little bit

more in depth for for the audience. Yeah, well, you hear so many Republicans saying, I think just the bare minimum on this issue because it can be controversial and they want to play it safe, and so I think the safe course what political consultants would encourage people to say is like, you know, let's help the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, which obviously it should, and and then let's return the issue to the states. You know, they use this sort of federalist language, federalism, uh, to

try to just get off the hook. And to be clear, I hope that the Supreme Court case Um in Jobs. I hope it comes down like that League opinion suggested it what. I hope they reverse her every way. But I don't think you can simply return the issue to the states, because I don't think that California or Oregon should allow planned parenthood to go in at seven or eight months in euro and you know, kill babies several

spinal cords and dismember babies. Um. And that's what the left really does want to do, to be clear, right just with it. Two days ago, every single Democrat senator except Joe Manson, but all the rest of them voted to legalize abortion. They said they were codifying Roby Wade, right, but that's not what it did. It when so much further than that, that bill would have legalized abortion nationwide up until the moment of birth, which is just something

that eight Americans. No, it's horrible, it's murderous. It is basically like you know, delivery room execution. And so they're just radical on this issue, and I think at some point the federal government's got to step in and protect life. I know there's going to be debate in Congress about worship that worshould that be um, but let's have that debate, because the Fortune Amendment to the Constitution, like it says, you know, all Americans have the right to life and

liberty and you can't deprive them of that without due process. Well, to me, it's harder to imagine a greater deprivation of due process than basically being dismembered before you have the chance to take your first breath. And so at least when we're talking about like late term and partial birth abortion, no, I think the several government needs to step in and band that. They have these bogus talking points like my body, my choice, but that doesn't apply when you're talking about

another life that is involved in this situation. Like when I didn't get the vaccine, that is truly my body, my choice. When you're talking about another child being involved, that that just that's not a true narrative. I mean, that's just a blatant lie. But you know, we we look at this league, this unprecedented league out of the Supreme Court, we see in the left really just try to take down institutions, really burned these pillars that hold a civilized society up to the ground. What does that

mean for the Supreme Court moving forward? I believe this has never ever happened before, right, Like, this is truly unprecedented, and you know, you look at public polling, the Supreme Court is more trusted than almost any other institution in the country. And so the left is just chipping away at all the institutions. Now they're they're really hacking away

at the legitimacy of the Supreme Court itself. Um, this is really an attempt to intimidate the more conservative justices on the Supreme Court, and we have to pray that it doesn't work. But then again, Jen Psaki is inviting people to break federal law and go protest outside of these judges homes to intimidate them, trying get them to to cow and you know, retract that that reversal of

grow and so this is really dangerous. I mean, we are r out on the precipice of all out sort of mob rule and it's two tier justice system, right, This erosion of the rule of law that we see under democratic rule, it's really dangerous. Like how crazy is it that in the summer of if you were a DLM or Antifa activist in Minneapolis, you could burn down buildings, you could burn down a police precinct and nothing bad

would happen to you. And if you did happen to get handcuffed, Kamala Harris's bail fund would bail you out, you know, And can contrast that to uh, I mean, obviously if any conservative did it did that, if anybody protested that side of Sonya Soda Mayor's house wearing a Maga hat, you know, they'd be prosecuted by this Biden DJ they wouldn't see the the sun for twenty years, they'd be thrown in a federal prison. And so this erosion of the rule law is really dangerous. But again

Biden doesn't care. They wanted that to leak. For all I know they had a hand in it. You know, this is just really crazy, uncharted waters. I mean, for all we know, a Supreme Court justice you know how to hand in it, or at least knew about. I mean, it would I mean, I think it would be somewhat hard to imagine that there wasn't some sort of tacit approval in the lead gang. That would be so bad. I mean, that would be grounds for for impeaching the justice.

I even have a hard time believing that a justice would sign off on that, even one of the hyper liberal ones. But but I think the Supreme Court clerk at a minimum, right like the the best theory is that a super liberal, super super pro abortion Supreme Court clerk who had access to this you know, draft opinion, leaked it in order to intimidate and change the results. Um Man, I hope a justice wasn't involved. If so, that would just be a really really bad sign to

this country. Quick commercial break more with Blake Masters, who's running for Senate in Arizona. Well, you know, when we're talking about the rule of law and you mentioned Kamala Harris, I mean, this is someone as you pointed out, encouraging, you know, bailing out rioters. But on top of that, she told Jacob Blake she was proud of him. This is a guy who pulled a knife on a police officer, resisted arrest, showed up at the house of a of a woman he had previously sexually assaulted. Uh, and she

said she was proud of him. I mean, if that doesn't really tell you everything about today's left, I don't really know what does. Yeah, exactly right, it's always it's always um the left against the average law abiding American and and the left in favor of anything that's going to disrupt public order, whether it's uh, you know, criminals in Chicago. They don't want to do anything about people shooting each other in Chicago, but they do want to

just arm you and me. You know, they don't want to do anything about the lawlessness at our southern border. You can cross that line with impunity. But if you step over the line and become a mere trespasser in Washington, d C. At the Capitol in January six, non know, the FBI is going to hunt you down and treat you as a domestic terrorist. Right, you can't get any breast milk, or you can't get excuse me, you can't get any formula baby formula in this country. The shelves

are bare and most grocery stores. But about the only people who do have access to baby formula are illegal aliens at these well stocked facilities along the southern border. It's always just Americans last, and people are sick of it, you know. But we don't have a right to defender borders, but Ukraine does. And you said this recently about the forty billion dollars an aid that Congress is trying to provide Ukraine. You said, no cease fire. It means another

foreign war where we are paying for everything. Why do you think our do your leaders want this to continue in Ukraine? And if so, why I think they do? You know, I think it's you know, a lot of it is just lazy deference to the foreign policy blob, which never saw a word, and like, you know, a lot of it. Um. You know, maybe if you can focus on problems abroad that have no chance of getting solved, and it's just distracts from all the problems at home

that they're actually responsible for. I don't know, but I think a lot of the people in charge. Of course, are are more of a globalist orientation, that they have this internationalist view. They want to run the world. They're not content to just you know, try to make America a better place. And so to them it's very logical.

Forty billions of Ukraine, why not? Um? But I think to normal people, people who see that we've got our own problems to deal with in America, people who have become rightfully very skeptical of US involvement in foreign worse after the Iraq experience, after the Afghanistanic year, it's going and on after Libya, right. Um. I think Washington, d C. Is just so out of step with what normal people want here and everybody, you know, nobody thinks the invasion was good. I think Putin is a thug. Um. I

think the invasion is murderous. And Dad and I don't progress to the Ukrainian people for wanting to fight back, it's like good for them. Um. Any intervention we make should be narrowly tailored to get to a ceasefire. Right, we want that war to stop. The risk is if we just fund of proxy war, it's gonna escalate into a possible all out war between nuclear powers, but they call you a pro putin stooge. You know, if you say, hey, maybe we shouldn't just rush into World War three. Um,

but now just on the raw financial contributional loan. And this isn't the first time. Right back in March, Congress already gave thirteen point six billion dollars to Ukraine, and now it's just forty billion dollars more. But then they wanted to say that eight billion for a border wall to secure our own border with Mexico. No, no no, no, that was too expensive. And so again it's just America last, and I think people are getting tired of it. Do

you think Republicans need changes in leadership? I do. I think we need new leadership. Uh, basically across the board. I mean, it's one huge reason why I'm running for office. Um. Obviously I can't run for majority leader my first term in the Senate. You know, you've got to know how the place works before you can do that. But people say, Blake, we vote for miss McConnell. I'm honest with people. I

say he might get another term. He probably will, if I had to guess, I'm not sure anyone's gonna run against him. But I hope to be able to vote for a viable alternative. UM. I'd love to see majority Leader Josh Holly, majority Leader Tom Cotton. UM. You know, I do think we need new leadership. I don't think Miss McConnell's bad at everything. He's good at judges, he's good at blocking Democrats occasionally. UM, but that's not enough,

you know. I when we inaugurated President Trump January, it's like, boom, okay, this guy was elected as a change agent. Now it's time to implement that awesome MAGA America First agenda. And we mostly couldn't do it right because you had Paul Ryan in the House, you had Mitch McConnell in the Senate, and they didn't want to implement that agenda. That's so what did we get? We got a tax cut. Now. I like the tax cut. I'm happy we got the

tax cut. I like low taxes. But while we should be the party of low taxes, we can't just be the party of low taxes. You know. If that's all we have to offer, well, the progressive left is just gonna crush us and they're gonna take over and pretty soon, not only will we not have low taxes because they're gonna just raise the sky high. We're not even gonna have a country, and so we need new leadership. I

only want to vote for a majority leader. This series about implementing in America first Agenda, and I don't mind saying that straight to Mitch McConnell. Well, it's ultra Maga. Now. I don't know if you saw. There is a report in the Washington Post apparently reappropriating Maga to Ultra Maga was the result of a six month research effort by liberal groups. Uh, that's what they came up with after six months. Evidently they're just doing our favors, right, And

Biden is calling President Trump the Great Maga King. They're coming up with some pretty good branding ideas. Yeah, it sounds like some sort of delicious beer or something very cool that you like, Ultra Maga. I mean I think there should be hats, and I mean it sounds like it's it's a you know, something interesting you want to be a part of. We'll take it. We'll take it. And Biden said, Biden said one correct thing recently, one

correct thing only. He said, this is not your father's Republican Party anymore, and it's like, yeah, dude, it's not. You know, you can call us whatever you want to call us, ultra maga. Well, where it is a badge of pride, but we're serious about putting America first and where we acknowledge I think the progressive left drives the dysfunction.

To be clear, I mostly blame them, but I'm also happy to blame establishment Republicans who have lost touch with the people who are no longer delivering for everyday Americans. And so if you want to call that ultra maga, if you want to call that populist, like, call it whatever you want. But we're serious and we are remaking the Republican Party and this more uh pro Trump, pro

America first direction. Well, we also can't use old school tactics when we're dealing with the radical left that we're saying now that is perfectly willing to burn things to the ground like we're seeing them outside of Supreme Court Justices House. I mean, we're just dealing with a different

it's a different fight, you know, so it has to change. Yeah, I'm sure you saw MSNBC host Are Milburgh was talking about Elon Musk taking over Twitter, and he was talking about how Musk could secretly banned people are turned down the reach of a major's party or major major parties candidate, which is completely ironic because that's exactly what happened heading into and what they did to President Trump and Republicans.

You know, I know, taking on big tech has been one of your signature issues beyond just what we saw with the Hunter Biden story. You know, talk about what big tech does to manipulate what we see and read, and you know what needs to be done well, the amount of control that these companies have, these huge uh and they're all left wing, networked monopolies. The amount of control that they have over the flow of information in

our society is staggering, right. I think just with the Hunter Biden laptop story alone, with that corporate censorship, that probably swung the election from President Trump to President Biden. That was just one of many ways I think in

which we had an unfree and unfair election. Um, you know, but they banned President Trump, they banned Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green from Twitter, and of course she's in the House, so she's a public official, but she's always running for re election because the terms are just two years and so that's election interference. And how have we gotten to this point where we're gonna let a handful of left wing multinational corporations put their thumb on the scale and

decide who are elected representatives are going to be. If you let that happen, you can fix every other problem we had. You could imagine securing the border and tightening up inflation, getting it back under control. You can fix everything. But if you don't have free and fair elections, if if Google is just going to choose who the next president is going to be, if you don't have a free country, and so I think we need to restrain

these companies. You hear a lot about Section two thirty, you know, and people ask me, should we uh, should we radically reform it or or eliminate those protections? And the answers, yes, absolutely right. If you are putting your thumb on the scale and censoring conservatives, you're acting like a publisher. Congratulations, We're gonna treat you like a publisher. We're not going to give you platform immunity from lawsuits. The problem is, I don't think that goes nearly far enough.

I think that solves like five percent of the problem. I think you've got to treat companies like Facebook and Twitter as common carriers. You know, Um, you basically just banned them from discriminating based on politics. I think we should treat them more like the phone company. That phone company would probably love to listen in to you and I having this conversation right now and say, oh, this is too conservative. Uh, we don't like it. Let's shut

them down. They'd probably love to do that, but we don't allow them to do that. We ban that kind of political discrimination by law. And so why on earth would we not hold Facebook and Twitter to the same standard that we hold the phone company. Right, So that's what playing offense looks like. I also think we need to embed software engineers. Are Com needs to convene an

investigative team and I can personally oversee it. And we need to embed software engineers in Google weeks before an election to make sure that the Google engineers aren't tweaking their search engine algorithms in ways that are going to bring the election for the for the Democrats. I think if you don't do this kind of stuff, um, you're just gonna let these left wing multinational big tech companies

dominate everything and we know which way they swing. We won't have any free speech at all in this country if we don't get a handle on it now. Well, and the online censorship really started when President Trump won the election, because I can't remember the Facebook guy's name, but one of the exacts is basically attributing Trump's went to his use of Facebook and being able to use these tools effectively. And that was when the left got really interested in trying to shut those kinds of accounts

down and shutting down that reach. That's right. I think they got caught. They got caught sleeping, you know. They they thought they were just so smug, and so many of those liberals were smugged, right, They thought Hillary Clinton was gonna win. They made fun of Trump, they said Trump had no chance, and in boom he was. It

wasn't Russia, it wasn't any of that bs. But yeah, they knew how to effectively use Facebook ads, and they got their message out and it was a better message, and and Trump won in and then you saw the whole machine, right, the mainstream media, big tech, um, they all just went into hyper hyper drives and and it was this crazy sort of information warfare for many years they were screaming about Russia, Russia, Russia, screaming about collusion.

I think as late as Nancy Pelosi was saying that the election was rigged in favor of President Trump, I mean, completely delusional stuff. But I think that big tech didn't want to let that happen again. You know, the Google. I think they got caught asleep at the wheel in they didn't want it to happen again, in which is why I'm pretty sure they got involved with manipulating search results. Zuckerberg, right, he was very sensitive after the whole left was criticizing

Zuckerberg for allowing Trump to run those Facebook ats. They blamed Zuckerberg for Trump's win, And so I think he massively overcorrected, probably in very illegal ways. Right. He spent four and twenty million dollars of personal cash on so called neutral election administration, Right, but he basically went into this giant left wing get out to vote ballot harvesting operation run through these you know, fake nonprofits that we

need to investigate. And so they massively overcorrected. And I think that it was just kind of obvious what they did well. And you also saw how difficult it is when you look at some of these issues when he was asked point blank how he defines hate speech and when he was in front of Congress and he couldn't define it right. So it's like, how do you how do you try to you know, regulate or cracked on

on something that you can't even define yourself. So you know, their on lies the problem, which is why we should just go towards free speech and you know, just allow people to say, you know, more things without retribution. You know, I wanted to ask you, so you and your wife homeschool your children. I think a lot of parents now, especially saying how the d o J is quite literally targeting parents who are standing up for their kids. We're

seeing how schools are indoctrinating children. So I think a lot of parents agree with you know, you and your wife homeschooling children, sort of seeing how the public school systems work. You walk us through how you and your wife came to that decision and why you came to that decision. Well, we've always been super pro homeschooling. You know, I wrote my uh over the law school equivalent of a big thesis paper. I wrote that on homeschooling and

why I thought homeschooling. It was a constitutional right protected by our constitution, or certainly ought to be. And you know, we when you have kids, you know, you start looking around at this, at the world, and and uh, man, what's the what's happening in the schools? And it just got so bad so fast that we felt like, hey, we have to try this. You know, we look, we're you equally blessed. Um. I've had a successful business career,

so we could literally afford to homeschool the kids. My wife, you know, stays at home with the kids, and and we can afford to do that, which is something I'd wish. It's a choice that I wish for every single parent because we get to feel in charge right at. Homeschooling is not for everybody. Catherine was a preschool teacher before we had kids, so she feels well suited to it.

But whether you homeschool or whether you just find the right you know, charter school or or or parochial school, whatever it is, we just want parents to feel in charge because it's so easy. Right now. You look at this curriculum, the toxic left wing curriculum that you see. It's not in every single school, but man, it's in so many of them, and the pattern is clear. This woke ideology has inspected so many k through twelve institutions,

and it's metastasizing like cancer. You know, we don't we We found out that the public school near us doesn't even say the Pledge of Allegiance. And I just remember I went to public school until sixth grade, and man, we said the Pledge of allegiance every day, you know. And I remember it must have been in first or second grade. I was learning about MLK and it's supposed to be about the content of your character, not the color of your skin. Right, Well, fast forward thirty years later.

Apparently the left is teaching kids the opposite, right there, teaching uh, you know, various forms of critical race theory, and you know, sometimes they call it diversity, equity and inclusion, but whatever it is, they're teaching kids to identify with each other in racial terms. Right, you're a victim and and you're an oppressor based on the color of your skin.

That's the opposite of what we should be teaching them, right, they're teaching them uh stak history, the sixteen nineteen history curriculum, which is trying to tell kids that this country is somehow ridingly evil or irridumably racist. Um and you can throw out the Declaration of Independence in the constitution, you know, because Thomas Jefferson own slaves or whatever. And if you teach a generation of young people to hate their country, like that's gonna take and it's gonna ruin that whole

generation is going to ruin the country. And now I think the final stroppers many parents is this perverse gender or sexual ideology that so many of these so called educators are pushing on our kids. You know, it's not an overstatement to say in the progressive left wants to teach your five year old that he or she can choose their gender and that indeed maybe they should choose to become transgender. I mean, this is ludicrous. They're coming

after our kids, and so yeah, we home school. You know, it's not an easy thing to do, but it's just such a blessing to make sure that our boys actually get educated and not indoctrinated. Quit commercial break more with Blake Masters. When you look at the fact like we're one of seven countries that allows abortion on demand after twenty weeks, we look at what happened during children with forcing them to wear masks when adults are taking pictures of them without it, of punishing kids to not be

able to go back to schools. Then you look at teachers teaching young children to hate themselves because of things that are outside of their control, like they you know, their their race or whatever, you know. And then and then you look at this where they're actively sort of grooming child. It's it's just sort of like, what does it say about a society that doesn't protect the most vulnerable and the most innocent? Exactly? It says it's the

sixth society. I think this is modern liberalism, right. The whole project is to tou to liberate every individual. Obviously, we believe in individual rights. Okay, it's conservatives, um, but but we also believe in families. We also believe in the nuclear family, and and and and what a special human arrangement that was, right. I literally think that's that's the divine design. Okay, uh uh. You know, husband and wife get together and they make children, they have this stamily,

and that's what a healthy society should support. But if you say that today and then the leftist comes after you because they want it's this divide and conquer strategy. I really believe the modern progressive left they want to upbend everything that we hold dear, starting with the nuclear family. Uh. That's why they make it hard to raise a family on one single income. It's it's why you know they criticize you if you have this normative ideal of the

strong family. They want to pull every individual apart because individuals are easier to control. If you can weaken the family, you can really make a population do whatever you want. And I think that's the left plan. We have to resist it. I totally agree. You know, I've really enjoyed this conversation. I appreciate. I think what you're doing is really important. You know, before we leave, and I've worked on campaign, so I know how busy are before before

we go. Is there anything you want to leave the audience with. Yeah, maybe just a note of optimism. I think so much optimistic language from politicians usually rings hollow. You know, I've got competitors that do the TV ads that have the electric guitars blaring, and they're like America's days You're you know, America's best days are right around the quarter, And I think that stuff fault hollow. I think, um, I think we have to acknowledge that we're in a

tough spot right now. Like truly, I think that we're living in a period of American decline. It's uncomfortable to admit. I think it's uncomfortable to admit how close we are to really losing this country. I think after decades of playing defense Republicans, you know, we've unfortunately kind of let the left take over and they they own almost every single institution in this country. But my optimistic note is now it's just clear what we have to do. Right

Our backs are against the wall. There's no more room to play defense. Yeah, that's terrifying, but you know that the stakes are high, and this is the best country that's ever existed in the history of the world. We have to fight for it. And and because we can't play defense anymore, there's only one option, and that's to put a smile on your face, be a happy worder and play offense. Let's just be bold. Let's play offense. Let's fight like. Hell, let's fight like the future of

this country depends on it. And uh, it does. And so that's what I'm doing in Arizona. That's why I know I'm on track to win this primary and to beat Mark Kelly in November. And I think if we all get together and and use our talents and just work really hard, and we can take back this country. I know we can. It's almost too late, but it's not too late, and I think that's the sweet spot. So let me leave you with that note. And uh, it's been a real pleasure chatting with you, Lisa. Blake

Masters running for Senate in Arizona. Go check them out, Blake, it's been an honor. I really appreciate your time, and keep up the good work. Good luck. Thank you, we'll do so. I found that interview fascinating. I hope you did as well. We need more Blake Masters out there. In my own personal opinion, I really enjoyed hearing his thoughts and I so appreciate you guys at home for listening to this podcast. If you enjoy it, tell your friends,

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