Deep State on Notice with Rep. Dan Bishop

We have a government that has become too centralized. You know, far gone is the vision of decentralization of our founding fathers, of the Founding generation. And so we need more and more people in Washington, d C. Or in government, whether it's the federal government or local and state government, who are actually fighting for us, who care about us, who see the challenges ahead, see the problems that we face, and want to make change, and are willing to fight

for change. One of those people's Congressman Dan Bishop from North Carolina. I want you to listen to something that he recently said on the House floor. We aw would to the American people to reveal the rock within our federal government and out it out so that it can no longer harm everyday Americans. Mr Speaker, today we're putting the deep state on notice, We're coming for you on behalf of everyday Americans. There you have it. Today, we're putting the deep state on notice. We are coming for

you on behalf of everyday Americans. He is fighting for us. He is standing up against the government, against the deep state, serving or needs the American people, if you're in North Carolina,

serving your needs as you're a congressman. And we're fortunate that he will likely serve on this new House committee that's going to investigate the federal government, to investigate the weaponization of government against us, much like the Church Committee did back in the day, and we need that and he will likely be on that committee, so we're thankful

for that. He was also part of that small group of Republicans, the twenty Republicans who stood against Kevin McCarthy, and not just because of Kevin McCarthy, but to try to force change in Washington, d c. To try to make changes to House rules to make government more transparent, to try to place checks and balances against the Speaker of the House, and also to fight for things like this House committee that is ultimately going to investigate and

stand up against the federal government. So we're very fortunate to have him in Congress. He's a good man and I'm so thankful for him to be a guest on this show on this episode. So we'll talk to him about all of that, why he started up to make changes and make changes to the process and not voting for Kevin McCarthy, who also talk to him about these revelations about Joe Biden. Again, a person who's in a

position of power, who's not there to serve us. He's there to serve his own needs, his own interests, to enrich himself and his family. So we'll talk about this discovery of the classified documents, what that means, what you need to know, and so much more. So I hope you enjoyed this interview with Congressman Dan Bishop of North Carolina Congress and m Bishop. I just wanted to thank you, sir. You were one of the small group of Republicans who fought to make changes to the House rules in the

way that Congress conducts business. So thank you for doing that. Than we really had a remarkable outcome, and looking back on it, it was very much the right thing to do. Thought so at the time, a lot of criticism from conservatives even that we were that we didn't just coordinate the speaker to be and do the same thing and the same way we've always done it. But we actually saw democracy, real genuine democracy breakout in Washington, the place

where the endless omnibus and it never stops. But we've we've gotten major reforms, We've got commitments to very important and specific legislative policy strategy. We got one thing that's very important to me was the Select Committees as a subcommittee actually in the June a sure Uh committee under Jim Jordan's on the weaponization of the federal government against the against American citizens. And so there were some really great wins there, and I think overall the Republican Conference

is stronger for it. It's a and I'm glad to have been part of it. Why was that an important fight for you? I think most Americans I've said this to some of my colleagues there showed me the people who say that Congress as an institution is working well for the American people. Nobody says that. Everybody admits that it is dysfunctional and broken. I got a huge kick out of mainstream media talking about chaos and dysfunction on the floor on January three, last week. Chaos and dysfunction,

or at least dysfunction is what is. What better describes the fact that two weeks earlier they put out a one point seven trillion dollar obvious to govern spending over the next nine months and all sorts of trash in it. Four thousand dollar bill drops out in the middle of the night on one day and then basically at the end of the next day we're voting for it. Nobody knows what's in it. It's designed by a handful of people. That is not what was supposed to happen when Congress

was set up. And this problem is perpetual. And the leadership class, I mean, Kevin McCarthy has considerable talents in certain aspects of leadership, but he's been in leadership for fourteen years in Congress, and we needed to know that whoever the speaker was, was going to go to the map for Americans, for UH fiscal discipline, for some key policies that have been waiting for a House in which

people have more participation. Members who were elected by seven thousand Americans of Peace that we were voices are being heard. We have conservatives on a widespread variety of committees. All of those things were necessary, and a lot of members of the Republican Conference now are touting the rules changes, the legislative policy we've we've had committed to, but not one single change would have occurred but for the twenty who were prepared to stand up for it. Well, and

I appreciate that. And I said on Fox you know, Congress is approval rating, but we're but we're beating up the guys trying to change the process, like you know, like that doesn't make sense to me. And you know, and we're at such a critical juncture as a country with just a government that's broken, a government that is really being weaponized against us. So you know, the time to fight is now. So I appreciate what you did, sir, and and and you know, we look at that broken

government part. And there's these revelations this week that Joe Biden mishandled classified information. Despite his criticism of the former president Donald Trump, he has been in businession of classified information for years now, and we're just now fighting out about it, just now finding out about it, and we don't know precisely with the time line of the discoveries

was but we're as soon. We'll find out in the due course, But it would appear to me that somebody in the federal bureaucracy understood this, knew that the that these documents were there, and they knew that before this midterm election. And we have another, probably another situation in which information was cultivated and suppressed and concealed until after the election, so the American people couldn't take it into consideration. But with respect to Donald Trump, you're seeing stuff you've

never seen in American history. Is that another case of a of the FBI, of the Department of Justice being politicized and used selectively for political advantage? You know, I'm trying to be responsible and my rhetoric about this as we undertake this committee that I made reference to, But those were exactly the kinds of events that keep coming

time and time and time again. And yes, Joe Biden, you know, they've they've tried to do everything they can to make Donald Trump pariah, and yet they're doing the same thing all the time. Well, you know, and and they're telling us that he takes classified information seriously, but he's had these documents for years, So that's kind of hard to believe and in multiple uh you know, in multiple places, multiple locations. Um, you know it is garage, but it's next to US corvette, sir, so we know

that much. Yeah, it's uh, it's a remarkable, remarkable development. And I look forward to seeing how I mean, they put themselves in a box. So let's see how they deal with it. Well, you know, and it was reported that these documents were discovered on November two, six days before the midterm elections. How can we have any faith or trust that this is being uh, this is being handled in an objective way when it's been withheld from the public for so long. Aspects of even that report

are implausible. Lisa the second of November discovered by lawyers in the course of closing up his Penn Biden Center office in d C. Maybe, uh, it stands to reason to me that if someone discovered it probably was not lawyers going through everything. But you know, maybe that'll that'll

hold up. I think we will. I understand Oversight Committee Jamie Cohmer, folks are already reaching out to see what that information was, to get a look at it in Congress, and we'll look behind what we're being told but lots of times when you go back and look, the initial story turns out to be incomplete or misleading in some way.

I will be willing to Well, I won't bet because I don't have enough information, but I won't be surprised if it turns out that information the mishandling of classified documents by Biden was known well in advance of the election, and they left that story out there as an asymmetrical way of damaging the prospects for Republicans in the election. Well, I also wonder if the discovery had anything to do

with this investigation into Hunter Biden. You know, is that what sort of spurred this discovery and this admission that he had these documents? You know, is that something that was going to be uncovered or was uncovered and the Hunter Biden investigation? You know, I wonder, you know, if the timing has to do with that, and if this has to do with Hunter Biden. Right, And it is often the case again that there is some sort of

pressure that has developed. They anticipate things are coming, therefore the revelation gets made. I don't know whether if there were nothing else happening, we would ever have heard this, But well, you know, we'll have to see what else he felt. I would say, as far as your listeners are concerned, and I'm sure they all know this, don't make all your conclusions tentative, because I believe there will be other additional shoes to drop. I agree as well.

And then also you know, I'm sure you guys are looking into it and would be interested in learning more about the penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement. We know that University of Pennsylvania they took tens of millions of dollars in gifts and contracts from China between

two thousand four two twenty. And then we know that the Washington Free Beacon noted that foreign donations to the university tripled in the two years following the Biden Centers opening in which is also even more suspicious just given the Biden's family connection to China and business developments in China, you know, along with business leaders in China. So you know that is suspicious as well. Right, Mike Pompeo gives a very compelling speech about the way in which Chinese

money and Chinese influence have been spread. Of course, we've heard a lot of even recent stories about essentially a Chinese police station in New York and so forth to kind of keep tabs on Chinese citizens here in the United States. But but particularly the university h channel for the fund things and Confucius centers, they have been relentless

and aggressive about doing that. I think we should see we should see some additional scrutiny on what the nature and source of that funding has been and and what it is, what kind of effects it is producing at that university. Quick commercial break and the more with Congressman Dan Bishop, what do you hope that this new committee, you know, this Church Committee looking into government, looking into the weaponization of government, what do you hope is accomplished there?

You know, in Frank Church, Senator Democratic senator from Idaho back in the undertook that chair that select committee in the Senate. People had a disquieting feeling that the intelligence community had gotten out of control. Um, I think we see that phenomenon again, maybe in a bigger way. Who was ever seen at the time If you remember some of the things they were concerned about then it was foreign covert operations that had less than clear authorization from

the president, particularly assassination policy. But they also had the FBI infiltrating frankly mostly left wing groups, but not entirely. And uh and and a lot of just a lot of very disturbing things that were going on. Now I have this, you know, if you look at the Twitter file story or the various pieces of it, it seems to me that the FBI this foreign and foreign influenced

task force. I don't know how big it is, but Elvis Chan San Francisco off to the FBI engaging with the old raw that that Twitter, and you know what's happening with other social media outlets as well. They are curating the public square. They're deciding what Americans can hear and say. I don't know how the FBI ever got the idea that that's their job or their prerogative. They say.

Then then when it happens, they put this extraordinarily contemptuous statement out that says they deplore the conspiracy theories, as they say, and they say, we're just engaging with our community partners. As far as I know, the FBI is responsible for investigating and and reporting to the Department of Justice the violations of federal laws, criminal law. I don't think they're here to engage with community partners to the point that they're uh curating the public debate. And that's

so dangerous. And I think it's one example, but I believe we see at proliferating everywhere, and and it jeopardizes the very fabric of our society to have the federal bureaucracy deciding to manage the population that's not supposed to happen in the United States. Well, I interviewed Ron Paul recently because I believe it was back in who is warning that the FBI's purpose is really des by on Americans, despy on us? And you know, I had asked him,

you know, how does it feel to be vindicated? You know, because he was criticized so much for you know, saying these sorts of things, and it turns out that he was very very right. Had I've been involved at the time, I might have been one of his critics, because I am one who has been rather converted. I have always been and continue to be a supporter of law enforcement.

I think that that we see too much demonizing of the cop on the street, and even though maybe the line FBI agent, but these high level executive functions and uh sort of the imposing of personal will and the American people from the position of the bureaucracy, whether it

be FBI or other agencies, is damaging and dangerous. And I think Ron Paul Ron Paul has proven, as you say, is being vindicated and and and what I intend to do in this committee, and I anticip I expect to be on it, Jim Jordan to run it is We're gonna make a major effort. We're gonna dig in hard, We're gonna face stonewalling. So I don't those folks who get up there and say, well, I'll you know, believe

it when you show me what you can do. We I'm not sure the United States Congress has the capacity to fix everything about this, but we darnwell kinnocks can work hard to expose it and make great progress in that direction, and then the American people will make their choices. But I don't think we want to live in the kind of world or in the kind of United States where the deep State decides what you can here, think

and say. And I think to one thing that would be really important or one thing I would love to see from you guys, is also putting forth, how can we make changes and really making it about the American because you know, I think sometimes these committees and you know, these hearings and it's explosive, and it could end up looking very like a show, you know, and produced. And I think the American people would love to know that this is in their interests. And also, how can we

make changes? You know, what are the recommendations, what are you know, what are tried and true things that we can do, and actual reforms in a real way to make government work for us, we the people. I agree with that totally, and I already have some ideas on the cable for my consideration as we work through this. For example, the you know, people saying some I think disturbing things in the January six prosecutions. I think the pre trial detention law needs to be re examined and

perhaps amended. I think the FBI's you know, since nine eleven, it has been centralized and work turned much more into an intelligence agency itself. Maybe the FBI needs to be split into some separate functions. The separate functions ought to be split into separate agencies. Maybe we ought to return to an FBI it was more decentralized that it depended for a decision making more on the field offices special agents in charge rather than the seventh floor in Washington.

I think there are a variety of reforms like that that ought to be considered. We need to be very judicious about whether we reauthorize FISA, because we know that the procedural protections that are designed to protect Americans rights have been violated time and time and time again. And it's not even in dispute. I mean, the Thighs a Chord itself has detailed how that has occurred. So has the Inspector General. So I agree with you. I don't

think now. I will say one other thing. Sometimes some of the reforms Congress is engaged in, including itself the creation of the Intel committees in Washington, I'm not sure that led a greater oversight and greater control of of intel. So we ought to approach it with a with a humble and u humble perspective, recognizing that many times government legislates more and protects people less despite their best efforts. That's a good point and a and a worthy point.

You know, and you talk about the need for decentralization, I mean you just look back on our founding fathers and our founding generation and how they saw the importance of decentralization. And you look at how centralized and vast and big our federal government is now, and it's boy where they right. You know, it's like we got to get back to, you know, somehow fighting a way to clar ourselves back to you know, a more decentralized government.

And and you know in any way that we can. Uh, you know, I wanted to get your take real quick before we go, because I know you're a busy guy. Um, what do you make of the evolutions that your colleague got him? Schiff had a role in the censorship of American citizens with with Twitter. Apparently his his staff, his team. They quite often went to Twitter and asked them to take down tweets they did not like. I can't say enough bad about Adam Schiff based on everything I've seen

before and since coming to Congress. Um, but I think what you know, the specific thing to which you refer in which he's uh talking about taking Paul Sperry, an investigative reporter, off off the Twitter. In fact, about six months later that happened to Paul. He eventually has been now under Elon Musk restored. Um it is look at that epitomizes I think, unfortunately the left today, at one point, at least much of my life, I always understood, you know,

war in court and everything. The liberals, the left of the country, we're the ones who wanted to disposedly open up and give him maximum for action individual rights. Understand that that time has passed. The left is authoritarian and they seek to use control or developed control by any means necessary. And Adam Ship is the worst of the worst. I'm glad that Kevin McCarthy said he is not going to be serving on INTEL because he has repeatedly used

that perch to lie to the American people. UM. I think we've got to be tough enough to face down enemies like that, uh and and and to not lett them continue to continue to roll over the American people. Yes, sir, before we go, is there anything you'd like to leave the audience with? You know, I would say that I think the American people are way ahead of Congress in many, many ways. My impression has been and surprisingly really at times,

that the American people fully know the score. Many of them have an impulse to say they just don't believe in anybody anymore. They don't anybody's gonna do anything. Don't give up hope. I'd say that above all, keep hope, keep faith in the Lord as your guide post, but continue to work hard for the improvement of the country, and to count on the fact that there are people trying to do that. You're one of them. And um, I appreciate what you do well. You were too, sir.

You're a good man, and I am so glad that we people like you in Washington, d C. Fighting for us and standing up for this country. So thank you so much for what you do, and thank you so much for giving us your time. I really appreciate it. Glad to be with you. That was Congressman Dan Bishop of North Carolina, fighting for you, fighting for a country. Truly a good man. We are very lucky to have him in Congress. I want to thank you guys at home for listening to the show every Monday and Thursday,

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