A Year in Review

the past year. I mean, there's been so many. We've had so many interesting conversations with so many truth tellers, so many fearless and brave people who aren't afraid of ruffle feathers, who aren't afraid of think, say things that are contradictory to the group think and what you're hearing elsewhere.

Over the course of the next hour, you're getting here from Governor to Santa so I got the opportunity to sit down with him in an over forty minute conversation in person and talk about some of the most important issues facing our country. We talked about how he handled and navigated COVID to his governing style. We also talked about the threat that puberty blockers face to two teenagers and the impact of that and the importance of protecting kids.

We were able to talk to Fox News is Laura Ingraham after the FBI had just rated Donald Trump's home in an unprecedented move. We talked to her about what that means for the future of the country and we heard her insight. You'll hear that as well. Also got the chance to talk to Matt Walsh after his film came out, What Is a Woman, about the impact of this movement towards encouraging young people to, you know, cut

their generals off in the name of transgenderism. What's the impact of all that on the country at young people. And then we hear from country music star John Ridge.

We had a great conversation with him. He's a smart man, he's a brave man about what it's like being inside the country music industry, about the politics involved in that, and why he refuses to be a cog in the wheel there, and why he stands up on his own, he releases his music on his own, why that's important to him, and get his take on the direction the

country is heading. I hope you'll continue to listen for future conversations in the year two thousand and twenty three, But in the meantime, I hope you enjoyed this review of two thousand and twenty two. He's the most talked about governor in America and he's also my governor. Governor run to Santis. He led Florida through COVID by rejecting Anthony Fauchery, rejecting the CDC, showing the rest of the

country that lockdowns don't work. And I don't want to know what this country would look like if it wasn't for Florida and Governor Ron de Santa's leading the way for freedom, standing against the totalitarians, and now he's taking on culture. He's fighting the left, fighting the media, and protecting children from indoctrination. And for this episode, I wanted to get into all those issues, and we do, but I also wanted to get into the governor's thought process.

How does he make decisions? Who is Governor Ron de Santis. We talked about his family and his upbringing as well, and if you haven't checked out his bio, it's insane. The guy's a complete stud He went to Yale University, where he graduated with honors for the captain of the varsity baseball team. He graduated with honors from Harvard Law School. There, he earned a commission of the U. S. Navy as

a JAG officer. Then, during active duty service, he deployed to Iraq as an advisor to YOS Navy commander, and his military decorations include the Bronze Star Medal for Meritorious service in the Iraq Campaign Medal. This was also my first in person interview, and I went to a press conference he gave about the Stock Woke Act. We're going to get into that and so much more. I hope you love this interview. I know I do. Here's my conversation with Governor Ron De Santis. Governor, it's such an

honor to have you on the show. Well thanks for having me, and I think you how long have you been in Florida? However a year? It's like a year and a half. You should put me on the board of tourism. There we go. I'm constantly selling the state. So most people who have moved, in fact, everyone that talks to me, none of them regretted. And I know you really enjoyed. It. So means a lot to us. It's like living in paradise. It's well, actually, if you're conservative,

come here. If you're not at state. Well, I think that's what's happening. I mean, I think we really because of what we've done. People are so sensitive, particularly with COVID, about the type of state government they live under, and they know it can affect everything from their kids education to even being able to work and doing all these things. Like we saw the crazy policies, and so they are voting with their feet and we have seen a huge

shift towards Republicans since I've been governor. Well and speaking of crazy policies, So you just held a press conference for the Stop Woke Act? What is it? Why was it needed to tell the audience about it? Woke in this context stands first, Stop Wrongs against our Kids and Employees Act, And so part of it is giving parents the ability to hold school district's accountable who do critical

race theory, which is not allowed in Florida schools. Part of it also is to give employees, particularly from these big companies of civil rights protection against having this oppressive woke ideology imposed on them. For job trainings, people are having to be told that they have to confess their white privilege and all this other stuff. And honestly, it's assinine and so we really, with this bill are doing more to battle wokeness and CRT than any state is

done in the country. And stop, Well, did you come up with that on your own? That's that's good, that was my idea. That's good. I like it. So I wanted to sincerely thank you for providing me safe refuge, because if it wasn't for you keeping Florida free, I might be in a gulag somewhere for the unvaccinated. And like I say that in jest, but also in sincerity. I don't know if you saw that Rasmussen pull from

not too long ago, where you looked at Biden. Supporters of m favored the government putting the unvaccinated, and designated facilities of Democrats more broadly supported taking children away from parents who weren't vaccinated. How far were we and how far are we from those kinds of scenarios taking fold Well, I think if Florida had not stood up against that and many other bad policies, I think that those would have taken hold of the whole country. We'd look more

like Canada right now. We were the first state over a year ago we banned vaccine passports and when we did it, the left had a connection. But even some of these quote libertarians like, oh, you're banning passports with a private business, and I'm like, yeah, I am, because your rights should not be circumscribed in terms of just participating in society based on this COVID shot. It's a private matter, and if one business does it, and then people are gonna say, Florida has passports and we don't

allow them. The result of that was we had the biggest domestic tourism yere in then we had in the history of the state, and we had more foreign visitors to Florida than New York City did. New York City has led for like the last twenty years. They wouldn't be coming here if they had to show paperwork to go get a hamburger. What we did was good for the individual, but it was also good for our state.

And I think if you look at what we did to ban school districts from forcing the kids to get the COVID vacs very very early on, that gave so many parents a good peace of mind. We have had families moved to Flora or just because of that issue. I don't know how it went from make it available to people, particularly senior citizens, to all of a sudden being you know, you're not gonna even be able to

leave your home. Some people have said, if you don't get this COVID shot, I know, by the way, the COVID say what you want about it, it does not prevent you from spreading it or getting infected anyways. And so I thought it was a huge, huge threat to freedom. I think we held the line, and I think because we held the line, I think other states in fallow.

In fact, it's been reported in some of these liberal publications that Fauci and some of these people in Biden's White House wanted him to do more draconian restrictions, particularly with interstate travel and vax passes, and some of his political guys said, you know, if you do that, Governor

de Santis is going to light you up. And I would have, and good for you for that, I mean, you know, I think that's why conservatives are just loving hearing what you're doing, seeing what you're doing here in Florida,

really holding the line and going on the offense. And right now we're sort of seeing these diverging viewpoints in the republic Bomparty, like particularly when you look at what's going on with Disney, and there's one school of thought where you know, Republicans were based to sort of see those numbers that I mentioned with res Musin and understand that there's some of the left that would put you away or take your kids away for your beliefs, right,

And then there's this other side of the Republican Party who thinks you can reason with people who hold those thoughts, you know, for instance, on Disney Charles Cook with the National Review, so that there was no need for you in the Florida legislature dessult the earth, take revenge, or make Florida's policies worse. You know, how should we approach

today's left? Well, look, all I would say is if you think one California based company having their own government and having separate rules from everybody else in Florida is good policy, I'd like to know how you're coming to that conclusion. I mean, the fact of the matter is this was an aberration when it was done in the sixties to draw them in, and maybe it was the right thing then, I don't know, but now, uh, it

is just not justifiable at all. And so the question is not that, oh, you're doing it to or quote revenge. The issue is is Disney really damaged his political standing in Florida. The legislature would never have considered doing this even six months ago. But because Disney is coming out and supporting transgender ideology and young kids, kids education. You saw the zoom calls where these higher ups in Disney are talking about, we have this agenda to really get

in the kids programming. There's not a lot of defenders of Disney right now, so you're able to look at this with a fresh set of eyes and say, you know, what, is this really the partnership that the state of Florida once and I didn't think it was. I would have I would have signed this bill if they had passed it two years ago, just on on substance, but particularly now when their corporate culture is dedicated to that. And they also came out saying they're going to make an

admission to repeal parents rights in Florida. So yes, we signed the bill. We quote quote one politically whatever that means, but they said they're coming to really do damage in Florida, and so we've got to take that seriously. Why would corporations need to be involved in the first place in Florida politics or politics of a state. Well, I think what I've always said is these businesses have every right. It's a free country. You ever right, But if you

get into the political thicket, then just understand. You know, we're gonna tussle, we're gonna fight back, and we're gonna expose what you do. When Disney criticizes Florida, they don't say a word about the Communist Party of China. In China,

they don't say a word about the weakers. They don't say a word about a lot of the places they do business and who will actually execute homosexuals, and so saying that there's somehow this big l v G T quh not when it affects their bottom line, They're willing to do business in a lot of very bad places. And so to single Florida out just by saying that you shouldn't have this transgender ideology and young kids classrooms

was was really weird. But I think that what's happening in corporate America is some of the executives are woke and they think that they have this UM. I think most of it, though, is there's cabals of employees who are very radical, and I don't think they represent the kind of the overall viewpoint of the employees. But I think most of these other employees are scared to speak out because if you speak out against this stuff, people

will attack you. They'll come after me. For example, with the women's sports, you know, we were very strong and saying what they did in that five hundred yard freestyle to have a mail swimmer who swam for three years on the men's team then switched to women, and you say that's the women's champion. You're depriving these other women of fair opportunities and wanted the second place finisher, quote unquote should have won the championhip. She was from Florida.

So we put out a proclamation and people would tell me, governor, thanks for standing up for this. We're too scared to speak out because we're worried about the consequences. So I think what's happening in these companies is they just have a lot of momentum. There's really nobody that's pushing back against them, and so they end up having an outsized influence. But I do not think that woke impulse represents a majority of of employees, even in Disney in California, certainly

not Disney in Orlando. I mean they when they did the big day of protests, they had one employee protests in Orlando. I think most of those employees. Yeah, I think most of those employees either supported the bill or just didn't think Disney should get involved with it. And so but but I do think this is gonna increasingly be an issue. And so what do we do as conservatives?

Do we allow massive corporate power to get behind a very pernicious ideology and impose that on society and what we just say free market and don't do anything while everything is getting steamrolled. I don't think you can do that. So I think you get in the arena and you fight back, and that's what we're doing. Do you think corporations will think twice before weighing and on some of the stuff now, I think they will In Florida? Yeah,

I think so too. You know, wanted to ask you so that the Florida Department of Health has issued guidelines for treating gender dysmore iphia, recommending against gender transition, purity blockers, and hormones. But would you support a state law banning any of those medical interventions for children. I would ban the Yeah, I would ban the sex shade the operations. I think that it's something that you can't get a

tattoo if you're up, you're twelve years old. When they say gender firm and care of me, what they mean a lot of times is you are really you're castrating a young boy, you're sterilizing a young girl, You're you're

doing missectomies for these are young girls. And here's the thing, what our guidance pointed to in the search in general, did a great job for these young kids of the cases resolve themselves as they grow up, and so you're doing things that are permanently altering them and then they're not going to be able to reverse that. And so

I don't think it's appropriate for kids at all. I think the guidance is right, but I think that there should be additional protections because you know, when you're growing up, there are things that you know, it's an awkward time, and it seems like there there's a concerted effort in society to push these kids in to do some type of medical intervention. In our judgment, that's not healthy. It's gonna ask you, why do you think the left is digging their heels in so hard on some of these issues.

I mean, there's literally a Netflix series right now called He's Expecting, which you know, I wasn't aware that's possible, but you know, and obviously they have attacked to you for the parental rights bill. You know, they've stood behind men playing in women's sports. So why why are they digging their heels in on this? I can't explain it. I just think they're they have a very militon left this ideology. I think their view is, you know, they want to assault the earth of society and upend all

these different conventions. I mean, you know, the House of Representatives under Pelosi the beginning of this current Congress, they voted to band using the words on the house floor, mother, sister, daughter, things like that. They said it was not inclusive enough. And I think most people see that and they're like, this is nuts. When they see that picture of the swim, you know, champion versus and then you have the other

three girls hugging off to the side. They're looking at that, They're like, come on, when you tell me that a man can get pregnant, I'm not down with that. I know that that's not true. So I think it's been very damaging to them politically because the more the left is i mean fairly tagged with those views, I think it's abhorrent to a lot of folks, and I think that's part of the reason why you see so many particularly working class constituencies fleeing the left and gonna probably

vote Republican this year. Quick commercial break back with a great lor Ingraham. On the other side, we have a very very special guest for this episode, none other than the Great Laura Ingram. You know Laura Ingram from The Angram Angle on Fox News, always speaking the truth, fearless, independent minded, which I deeply respect. I love people like that. I love people like her, so I gotta tell you it's an honor to to have her guest as a

guest on the show. You know her from TV. She previously was a nationally syndicated radio show, The Laura Ingram Show, and also before her media days, she worked as a speechwriter in the Reagan administration in the late nineteen eighties. You know, she went on to get her law degree. She worked as a judicial clerk in the Second Court of Appeals in New York then for the United States

Supreme Court for Justice Clarence Thomas. So she's lived an interesting life, obviously accomplished a great deal, but I think most importantly, she's fearless and she's brave. I originally wanted to have her on to talk about life and to talk about some of that, you know, really interesting work experience she had and how she got into media and

all those sorts of things. And then the FBI decided to raid Trump, right, and the country got turned upside down, and my plans got turned upside down for the things I wanted to discuss. So now we're going to talk about that the impact it has on the country. We'll get into other things too, but you know, primarily just sort of talk about the direction this nation is heading in. So I hope you enjoyed this conversation. I know it's an honor for me. Big fan of Laura Ingram, I'm

sure you are too. So here she is Laura Ingram. So we've got a big show today, a big week obviously, a lot happening in the country. The great Laura Ingram is joining us. You know, Laura, I originally wanted to talk about life because you're a badass, and I admire and respect you. But then the but then the but then the you know I do, but but then the FBI rated Trump. So you know, now we're here, Laura, and it feels like the country is forever changed and

we have uncertain times ahead. I think, Lisa, we have arrived at the at the proverbial rubicon. And you know, if people know their history, uh, that wasn't good. People think, oh, we're at the Rubicon. It's a new frontier. Now. This I think does so much to undermine what Americans need to believe about their government, namely, that the government exists to make their lives better. It doesn't exist to turn them into enemies. It doesn't exist to vanquish political opponents.

It actually is supposed to work for us. And if we begin to lose faith in our law enforcement and our federal investigative services to the extent that I think so many people are losing it now, you know, to quote new Gingrich on the angerm Angle, uh, this week, he said we're at the precipice. I mean, it's not an exaggeration to say we're at the precipice now, because we know already Lisa that these forces on the left, I don't like the Constitution. They're not interested in the Framers.

They think the Framers are a bunch of racists, And everything about America that has kind of held us together for two or in fifty years, they think is inherently corrupt. Uh. And so they don't care if people don't believe the FBI is operating in good faith. They don't. They don't care if people think the Justice Department is essentially the praetorian guard for failing administration. I don't care about any of that, because they think the system itself is fatally flawed.

They would much prefer and I say they sort of the elites who have helped build up China all these years and let our military deteriorate over all these years. They would far prefer America to be run under a global understanding where where all the big decisions are made elsewhere by people we don't vote for, and by people who don't really have much respect for what the American

experiment was really all about. So so it doesn't surprise me that they would go this low and degrade our system to the to the extent that they are because the people who are really pulling the levers of power now. They don't like our system. They think it's corrupt, and they think it's itself needs to be smashed and reformed and remade into something that's much less accountable to the

people who they believe are also corrupt and racist. Um. So I think that's really the conundrum that we're facing, is a is a ruling class that has no respect for our found national documents or our our entire framework of existence and liberty for the people and securing liberty for the people. They don't like that, and that that that kind of system gave us Donald Trump in and you know, it's propelled Rhonda Santists to embarrass all these

other governors who kept their states closed. So I think I think Americans overwhelmingly want things to get better that I think they overwhelmingly want things to go back to quote normal. Um, the new normal that we see we see playing out since the pandemic, and we all now see the truth about that. I mean some of us though it early on, but you know that's right, better

later later than never. But people want to return to normalcy of a government they can they don't necessarily will trust, but they think is not purely existing to make their lives miserable. Uh. And I think that's what we're gonna we're gonna see play out in these election cycles coming out.

And how does a nation survive in in the environment that you laid out when you have half of the country, the people on the left undermining or institutions, not believing in our institutions, you know, not believing in the documents that created this nation and created the framework for the nation.

How does the nation survive in that environment? Well, I think the only way we can the only way we've ever gotten through every incredibly difficult situation, whether it was a Great Depression or civil rights struggle or you know, the Civil War. I mean, we have to as a people decide that we aren't going to tolerate a certain type of leader, that we're gonna we're going to encourage and support those leaders who actually respect the people. And

I think you see signs of that happening. I mean there, I think there are too many conservatives out there, and not just conservatives, but other people who say, oh, we're going to hellid a handbasket, there's no turning back. It's all all hope is lost. I mean, nobody wants to follow that. That mindset. Reagan came in in nineteen eighty

in an environment that was so broken for America. I mean, we had our embassy held hostage, we had we had Iran erupting, we had to the Soviet Union still threatening us. We had a massive economic disaster on our hands, and we had we had a complete decline and patriotism and a lack of respect for our military. I mean across

the board. In nineteen seventy nine, seventy nine, going into nine eight, America was in a huge mass We had terrible crime, cities were a mess, and we had someone to say no, no, no no, it's going to be morning in America. There's that we don't have to live this way. So I believe this comes from the people to finally people get fed up and they propelled someone like Reagan.

But remember Reagan lost in nineteen seventy six. He lost the nomination in seventy six out by a lot, but he began to put together his framework all the way back in sixty four when they're really all hope was lost for the conservative movement. Talk about depressing in the sixty four and so we have to understand that things didn't get screwed up overnight, and they're not gonna get fixed overnight. This is going to take an enormous amount

of work, but I think it's possible. I mean, I just think there's so many amazing young leaders out there, from whether it's Josh Holly or Tom Cotton or De Santis obviously, people like Christine Nome and um, you know all the great political leadership we've seen in Texas, Greg Abbott. So I think there's a lot of hope and I think I think we're seeing this kind of begin to bubble up in the younger people winning these primaries. Some

of them won't win, some of them will win. But these are people who are you know, these are Hispanics, these are African Americans, these are these are moms, young business people who have just decided, you know something, I'm not gonna sit on the sidelines. I'm gonna get involved.

And I think that's surprising the Democrats right now. I think that's shocking them of how Republicans have really thrown off the cloak of the old establishment that failed us for decades and it begun to really embrace this more populist conservatism that that Trump smartly grabbed onto and rode all the way to the presidency in sixteen. So I think there's a lot of hope, but it's going to take a lot of work. Well you, of course, we're

a speech rader during the Reagan administration. But to your point, I believe that's why they're they're cracking down, because you are sort of seeing this upraising really not just in the United States but around the world, the people standing up to their government saying this is enough. COVID really accelerated the rise of authoritarianism in the West, and I think it's open some eyes. I was interested to see, Laura.

I'm sure you you of Andrew Cuomo, the guy who killed elderly people, then covered it up saying that whoa, whoa, this is a bridge too far. It must be more than a search for inconsequential archives or will be viewed as a political tactic. So even seeing someone like him as corrupt as he is saying that this is corrupt. Yeah, I think that Democrats who have kind of been around politics for a long time should be very careful about what they're saying about this search warrant. I mean, I

thought Schumer didn't say anything. He didn't want to get dragged into it. Bernie Sanders didn't say anything that Maybe that's just a political tactic. I don't know, but I had to say, I mean to drop a warrant on a former president of the United States, that guy is probably gonna be the party's nominee. Man, you better you better have like espionage or something like that. That's just something we That's just something speaking of norms that they

supposedly are so worried about protecting. That is something we do not do. We do not do that as a country, and they decided to go there. I think at least, so you're right they're very worried about Trump winning again. Because I kind of joke and I say, I say Trump comes back, it's going to be no more Mr nice guy. I kind of joke about that. But because he now has he's learned. I would think that he's learned that you have to have great staff, which I

think he actually did have at the end. He might not, he might not agree with that, but actually think he really did have good stuff, especially at the end. You have to have great staff and you have to hit the round ground running because the the the swamp will eat you up. And the and this lionizing of the of the military leadership, which he did, and I talked about this a lot this week, the lionizing of the generals.

Just because someone's called a general doesn't doesn't it doesn't mean that this is someone who you have to think is right on every single issue. In fact, these generals have been brought up through the ranks of political correctness and diversity, equity inclusion, and most of them are just worried about the defense contractor board that they're gonna land

on in five years. So Trump, I think has had his eyes opened about the truth of the bureaucracy, the truth about the Pentagon, the failures there for decades and decades, we haven't won a war out right, Why is that? Why don't we ever ask for accountability on that? And so I think that Trump wins this time, Lisa. And he's not going to talk about draining the swamp. He's going to drain the swamp you talk about you talk

about terrifying for them, Yeah, that's gonna be terrifying. So I think I think they pulled out all the stops because Aviator sunglasses. Man ain't gonna beat him next time. Yeah, I mean he rolled the curtain back on how corrupt and broken or government truly is. I think it opened a lot of eyes. He opened my eyes for sure, really changed my thinking on a lot of things politically. But ultimately, isn't this about the criminalization of free speech and wrong think? Oh yeah, I think this is one

big intimidation play. And I think the way they handles January six, I said, I think the first week after the you know, after the riot at the Capitol, that this was going to be used as a way to surveil justification for more surveillance monitoring, intimidation. Uh, you saw what Justice Department did with this domestic Terror unit and

expanding what actually qualifies as domestic terror. So I think they want Americans to think twice before they show up at a rally, or before they post online, before they open up a Christian school, before they go to a gun safety class. I mean, I I honestly think they're Their goal here is to make the average American compliant, compliant and and and and worried and with good and

with good reason. I mean, when you know when you're trying to criminalize parents at school board meetings and call that and tackle a father who's daughter, who's whose daughter was raped in a bathroom. I mean, as you saw in that Loudon County video that I think changed the whole course of the gubernatorial race in Virginia. I mean,

this is gestapo stuff. This is this is stuff that you know when I lived in the Soviet Union, when I was a student back at Dharmouth, and I saw that stuff in the Soviet Union, we were we were scared about who we talked to, and we were there because we knew we were being watched. Without getting too conspiratorial, I mean, how how much farther down the road do

we have to get before we approach that territory? And I'm pretty fully convinced that we're probably a monitored to some degree, to be perfectly honest, but you know, I mean it's just if if you're you know, if we're being honest about it, Uh, they're they're probably tracking us, but you know, we're Republicans. Like Mitch mcco donald, I think he truly is stunned that the party has already left him. I honestly think he really can't believe that

the party is not his party anymore. It doesn't matter if he's called Senate Majority leader. The people aren't with him. And I think it took him a while to grudgingly admit it. Obviously, in the aftermath of this raid on Trump, I think he was thinking Trump was finished. Trump was murmuring about coming back. But come on, that's not gonna happen. Donald Trump, I mean, the old Guard knows what's best for the people on trade and immigration and government spending.

And I think he was truly shocked when, after he was outmaneuvered on that climate change bill, that the reaction to the Trump raid was unify the party around the guy who has the America First agenda, not around the guy who's allowed government to grow and who has never met a defense authorization that he doesn't like, which is

Mitch McConnell. So I think I think he truly was shocked about that, and he was shamed into coming out and making the most flaccid of statements about this raid about oh we expected jose was Robert has to be very transparent about this. Yeah, no kidding, no kidding, They have to be transparent about it. But it took him. You know full twenty four hours to make any statement that he was only he was shamed into making that statement about the raid. But again it was a weak statement.

So I think he's I think he's shocked. I think if they if you know, it's unlikely that they're going to win the Senate, at least if the races were held today, the Republicans shockingly might not win the Senate back. But if they did with the set it back, Mitch McConnell's, you know, position as a majority leader isn't a sure thing, that's for sure. Speaking of that, what what impact do you think this has on the electorate heading into the mid terms. Well, the rate I think unifies the party.

I think it has the danger of it has the danger of also stoking Democrat turn out because Trump's out there again and maybe he'll announce he's running for president again. And the concern is that they hate him so much that now they're people were going to turn out on Moss as well. But I'm not sure. I mean, I'm really torn on and I don't know if I'll have a great answer to this, Lisa, because it's a tricky situation,

given how precarious people's personal budgets are right now. I mean most people are digging into their savings at the middle income levels because their salaries aren't keeping up with inflation. I mean, somehow today they crode about how, oh inflation is only eight point were they're celebrating that? What were they celebrating pennies off of gas prices and everyone's paying double But it's like, oh, you saved twenty cents or whatever. Yeah,

it's a great point. So I think that the media will continue to try to resurrect I should say resuscitate um Biden Biden's performance. Look, he's got these winds at all because the change we got the we got the chip bill. But celebrating winds on their own because they were bills were past, that doesn't translate into a better life for the average American. So we'll see how this all plays out. I tend to believe that it's going to make energy more expensive and imports of various component

parts of solar panels, everything more more prevalent um. I don't think it's going to do much to certainly raise the standard of living of the average Americans. So I think their celebration or their attempt to burnish the Biden record or turn around his momentum. I think that's prem sure, but that's kind of all they have is spin. I don't think it necessarily means that people in November are gonna say, oh god, I want more of this. This

has been fun, that has been great. Let's go out and vote for that guy when they you know, we have didn't talked about the border, but I think the immigration is under underpolled as a concern for people. Um, but I think when the school year starts, we're going to have a we're gonna have We're gonna have a lot more concerned parents out there. Well, it is hilarious that you've got people like Eric Adams, You've got Democrats who are saying, oh, you know, diversity is or strength

for you to let them come in. We we need to take all of them. And then the second buses start showing up to New York City, they're like, oh, this is gonna overwhelm our schools, overwhelm our health care. And it's like, as Republicans were like, we've been saying this, like that's the whole point. Welcome to the club. I think you're right, and I think again, I think people people conflate Trump with with people's overall sense of happiness

in the country. I mean, you know, Donald Trump to spend a friend of mine for twenty five years, and I I'm always very open about this on my on my show. But you know, we'll see whether that's what the country wants. I mean with the country country, I think is so exhausted, they're exhausted by the battle, the constant battle that they they may believe that, well, maybe it's time to turn the page if we can get someone who has all Trump's policies who's not Trump, right.

So the other concern though, and I don't have a position on this one way or another, but the other problem is is that it's really not about Trump, right. This is about the views that Trump now brought to the fore for the Republican Party. They don't they don't

like his views. They don't like the fact that he called out the military for failures, that he wanted us to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan, that he wanted to treat China and our trade relationship with China in a in a much I mean, it was smarter but much different way than the global is preferred and they certainly didn't like the fact that he sent all those illegal immigrants back to Mexico, that Romain in Mexico. I

mean they don't. They think borders are immoral. They think, uh they owning, you know, owning big SUVs is immoral. They think eating too much beef is immoral, having air conditioning as immoral. These people think that the American way of life is immoral, and and it doesn't. It doesn't really matter in the end, whether it's Trump making the populous conservative points or whether it's the Santists or someone

like him. They're going to come full bar against any Republican, even an establishment when they saw what they did to Romney. Romney was a caricature of Thurston Howell the Third by the time they got done with him back in twenty twelve. So yeah, Trump is a is a is a placeholder right now for the ire and fury of the last. But anyone who steps into that breach is going to find the same find the same pain being thrust at him or her. Quick commercial break more with Matt Wall

She's incredibly smart, really funny guy as well. I'm really looking forward to this conversation. I'm big fan of him, big fan of the documentary, and I hope you're a big fan of this interview. So that I watched the documentary, I loved it. I thought it was so good. I mean, obviously you're a very intelligent person, but I also appreciated the sense of humor with it too, And I mean you got to laugh in the cloud world that we

live in today, So I appreciated that. Yeah, well, you know, that's that's what we wanted to kind of bring out, is that there's on the complayer this issue. I guess you could say there's a lot of absurdity, and absurdity is funny, so it's it's appropriate to laugh at it. But then when you want to go below the surface, you find that h some really sinister of things going on.

So if we could, our goal was to kind of get both of those things into the movie and then also, you know, make it like an actual piece of entertainment as well, even though it's dealing with a serious issues. So we're happy it's that part of it is resonating people. I mean I learned a laugh from it as well. So to your point, you know, it also gave across a lot of information that was important. What is a woman? Well,

that's I feel like that's a spoiler. But if I if I had to get spoilers away, then you know, as we discovered, a woman is an adult human female. It really is as as simple as that. I mean, you could get in more specifics about each individual woman and talk about, you know, the personality traits of women individually, but it comes to the definition of the term. That's that's pretty much it. But it was so complicated for so many people to answer. And you've also got a

book coming out its title What is a Woman? One Man's Journey to answer the question of a generation? But how did we get to this place in time where that that question such a simple question is the question of a generation? Yeah, I think it feels like this all was sort of sprung on us, maybe you know, seven, eight years ago, maybe ten years ago. That's the way it seems to most people. That just came out of nowhere and this became an issue, and this became a

question at that point. But really, as we get into in the film, that goes back even further than that, and you could trace it back almost as far as you want, but we, uh, we take it back to what I think is a is a kind of landmark moment in the mid twentieth century when the general idealogy

and its current form began to take take take shape. UM. And it's sort of started there and then made its way into our institutions, academia in particular, and that's where it lived, i think for the most part, for decades before it funneled down into the to the mainstream. UM. And at this point, it's just it's taken over all of our institutions, and through the institutions, taken over people's brains in a lot of ways. And even the people who still have their brains about them and their words

about them, they are they're afraid. They're scared to tell the truth about this topic because of the powerful institutions that they know can punish them for speaking the truth. Well, and to that point, let's play this clip real quick, and then I want to get you on the other side of it. So you're saying, if you're not a woman and you shouldn't have an opinion, where does a guy get it right to say what a woman is? Women only know what women are? Are you a cat? No?

Can you tell me what a cat is this is actually genuine mistake. I'm sorry if you look there so obviously walked right into that one. But to the point this person could obviously answer the question, they're they're choosing not to. So, you know, to what extent are we conditioning society this way? You know, talk about sort of

that social conditioning that's going on right now. Yeah, And that person in the clip there, that was just one of the many ways that people have the proponents of this ideology they have they have no way of answering the questions, but they do have different ways of getting around them, trying to get around them any way and

evade them. And one of the classic evasion tactics now is this thing that you heard from that person, which is, well, is the job only a woman is qualified even speak on this subject, And of course that doesn't make any sense.

And but even there are plenty of women who will say that a woman's on land dol human being palid according to gender audiologue, that's still not an acceptable answer you can come from a woman to the whole thing doesn't make any sense, um, And it has been it has been a process of conditioning, and I think you know there there's kind of two part. There's two different types of conditioning. There's the intimidation, the fear tactics conditioning

people that way. And these are especially adults, many adults who grew up in a basically same society, at least a society that the difference be men and women, but now are pretending they don't because they've been conditioned through fear to remain silent or to just take the party line. And then there's the other more insidious form of it, conditioning that happens to children who never had the opportunity

to grow up in the same society. They grew up in the society we have now, and for them, it's like the Left gets to them very very early, before they understand the differences between reality and fiction and all of that, and they live in a fantastical world already in their heads because their imagine it their children, and the Left gets to them very young and takes advantage of that and just warps their minds from a young age. And that's what we're seeing play out right now in society. Well,

and I think that's the saddest part of it. I mean, like, but it's parents too mean. J Lo took the stage

announced they was joining her. It was only her daughter, so one person, which is slightly confusing, Um, you know, and it's a fad right then New York posted an article recently with the transitioners and one person, a girl was named Chloe Cool, seventeen year olds to from California, and she talks about how like this really started her when she joined Instagram at eleven, and she says, I started being exposed to a lot of LGBT content activism, and what she liked about it was all the attention

that these people were getting, the praise that they were getting. She didn't really have a lot of friends at the time, you know, so talk about social media's role in sort of driving the spikes and transitions we're saying in her youth. Yeah, that's a huge part of it. And I think it's

it's there's a couple of different things going on. They as you point out that Jeffer Lopez with the non binary daughter or whatever it is, Um, that's you know, it's it's not a coincident that all of the celebrities now have a non binary and trans kids and for them it's just a fashion statement, I think, and they use their kids like um like that, like fashion accessories, and so there's a lot of that going on with parents, which is really really terrible that parents treat their kids

that way, but but they do, especially in Hollywood. Um. But then there's also you know, we we talk a little bit about rapid rapid onset gender dysphor you and that's the the child oftentimes not always, but but often most of the time, it's a girl, adolescent girl who was raised in a normal house and not certainly doing their parents are not on board with this at all, and everything is fine, and then and then they come up from school one day and they just announced, oh,

I'm a boy. And that has happens happening all all over the country and many parents are going through this. And where do the kids pick it up from? Well, they pick it up from you know, they're friends at school.

That's a big part of it, because they're they're in this environment physically every single day for like six or seven hours a day, five days a week, nine months a year, for twelve years where these ideas are being voice on them and there's always peer pressure and now it's trendy and cool to be you know, trands are not binary. It's like the worst thing you could be is just a normal quote unquote sist person as they

call it now. Um. And then there they have that at school, but then they leave school, but they don't really leave school. They don't really leave the peer culture, peer environment because they have their phones and they have social media, and so they end up in this kind of fog that's follows them around and surrounds them all day long. And that's where social media becomes a big

part of it. And I really think that it would be impossible to overstate just how much of a role social media plays in this, uh in getting these ideas directly into our kids minds. Well, I mean, I think with things like TikTok, it's intentional because obviously it's you know, China, right, trying to sort of infiltrate our country and destroyers from within. Uh. But you know, but the challenges that the tragedy of it is that, I mean, can you really de transition? Right?

Like the New York Post that same interview interviewed another individual. She at twelve years old, she decided that she was transgender. She came out to her parents when I'm puberty blockers was prescribed to stosterone. At fifteen, she underwent a double massectomy, and then less than a year later, at sixteen, she realized she made a mistake. So, I mean, how do you go back at that point when you know you've already given your of a double missect To me, I mean,

I think that that's the concern here, is it? Like can you detraining? How do you even do that? Yeah? I think that, well, you can be transition mentally, which is important, but to kind of bring your mind back to reality and learn to accept yourself or you who you actually are. But that's the great tragedy is that the physical part of it can't cannot be undone. And that that applies to the surgeries. Obviously, you get a double missect. To me, there's no way of going back

from that. You that body parts removed, obviously, But that also applies to the drugs to puberty blockers. There are there are permanent effects to puberty blockers, and the other side they just they just straight up lie about this and they lie to kids and they lie everybody, a lot of parents, and they say that this is it's temporary, reversible. It's not. I mean, there are permanent changes happening to the body. Um, starting with things like your your voice.

I mean, you start taking the stuff that changes your voice, and those that change is permanent, and that's not a small change like that's a that's that's a defining feature of you. Is your voice, and that's gone forever. And change um changes to your you know, your bone structure, bone density, all kinds of physiological changes of having and sterilization.

These drugs are also sterilizing kids permanently. And the question is whether a child under the age of consent can actually consent to having to undergoing these changes, whether they doesn't matter what they say, it doesn't matter if they verbally agree to take the drugs, can they actually consent?

Can they um assent to this change happening to the body And and the answer is no, because that's the whole point of the age of consent, is that no matter what a kid says, they can't really understand the quote unquote choice they're making, and so there can't be any consent. Well, and to that point, I mean, this

person was fifteen when she underwent a double mussectomy. I mean, if a parent went out and got their fifty year old breast implants, they would probably have their kids take it away, right, And that's or you could And there's so many other examples you can give, pressing plants, tattoo,

you know. Um, the age where you can get a tattoo varies, but I think almost everyone would agree that fifteen is too young to go get a tattoo, especially if you know what, if you had a fifteen year old kid who wanted to get a big tattoo right across her forehead, like who who? Who would agree that that a fifteen year old should be able to make

that choice? And if the fifteen year old went into the tattoo parlor and asked the tattoo guy for a tattoo across the forehead, and the tattoo artists actually did it, then we would blame that. We say he needs to put out of business for that. He needs to be fine, but I'll maybe arrested for doing that to a girl obviously to know what she was doing. Um, And you know who on the left thinks that fifteen year old should be able to buy guns or like do anything else. Right,

So it just it just doesn't make any sense. It's not consistent. But that's that's the story with the left and gender ideology in general. It just contradicts itself at every turn. I mean, they want to change the age

to buy a gun, to to do you one. And it's sick too because you've got these groups like the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, which you know, whatever, but they frequently recommended that hormones can start at fourteen, two years earlier than the previous advice, which you know, the right their advice is obviously BS. But and then

some surgeries can be done at fifteen or seventeen. It's like, I mean, what does it say about a society that doesn't look at that and say, no, you know, we have to protect the kids. Well, we're totally lost and broken, uh society to begin with. And I mean as as I think lots of people know, you can judge a civilization by how it treats its children. So what does that say about ours? And what you mentioned there? The world whatever it's called w PATH, the Transgender Health Organization. Um,

that's a very significant. The fact that they made that change and they lowered the age of the stuff is

extremely significant. And the reason it's significant is that this organization w PATH is considered wrongly, but is consider there to be you know, a prominent authority figure on when it comes to quote unquote transgender health, and whatever they decree, whatever they declare, is immediately accepted by every other medical organization, the American Academy Pediatrics, you know, the American Psychological Association, all these different all the all these other medical associations,

organizations that we that we think are valid and legitimate. UM consider w PATH to be itself valid and legitimate and to be the voice. Whatever they say is the gospel truth when it comes to gender and transgenderism. So yeah, if they say that fifteen is old, is old enough for surgery, then that's what it becomes. That's what the that's what the medical feeling general will adopt and accept, and that's what makes it so terrifying. Quick commercial break

and back with country music star John Redge. So we've got country music star in the house, John Ridge. On this episode. I'm sure you've seen. He's got a new song called Progress where calls out all this wote crap that's ruining the country, ruining America, ruining everything that this country stands for, our values, freedom, liberty and just utter destruction is what the left is trying to do. So

he's got a new song about that. And what's really cool is he released the song on Truth, Social and Rumble rather than going you know, the traditional route and guess what, it's sword to number one on the Apple iTunes chart within our So I love the fact he did that. He bypassed the machine and he beat the machine. Also, you know, it's really cool. So he he gives a percentage of all his proceeds from his Redneck Rivereria brand. He's got a bunch of things like, you know, barbecue, sauce, whiskey,

all these different things. He gives a percentage of that too. Folds of honor. How cool is that? I love that he does that. So he's a good dude. He's had, you know, tremendous success in his career in country music and a variety of other things. He's got a bar in Nashville as well, so he's done a ton of stuff. Cool guy. We're going to talk to him about his new song and so much more. Stay with us for John Reach Country music star John Rich. It's such an

honor to have you on the show. I wanted to tell you I really respect your bravery because we really do live in this society where you know, telling you the truth comes at a cost. Uh, So I appreciate the fact that you do that. Well, it's uh at this point, I don't know what what it serves anybody to keep your mouth shut and censor yourself. You know, we speak the truth, and if they want to sense

you what, that's on them. But self censorship, to me, is a real problem in our country that people are so afraid to even even try it because somebody's going to call him a bad name or kick him off of a platform or whatever. So that should not be enough of a reason for you to sacrifice your own freedom of speech. And that's kind of the attitude I have, and that that's why coming like I do, well, I love it. And then that's why I wanted to have

you on. You know. Dave Chappelle sa that recently and I love obviously he gets hit on the trans jokes he tells, and he said, the more you say I can't say something, the more urgent it is for me to say. And I feel like that's where we are right now, right and you get it obviously with the new song that we're going to get into of the fact that now is the time to speak out and now is the time to be bold. Well, can you

imagine if the founding fathers had not spoken out? Can you imagine if you go back and look at the Declaration of Independence and those people that signed that document, they all knew that if the British Empire ever found them, they were gonna hang them, shoot them, burn their houses down, enslave their families, erased them from the history of the yearth That's what they were up against. And they signed it anyway. Old John Hancock, I wish I could have

known that guy. He's like, give me that pen. I'm gonna sign a triple bid. Man, I'm gonna make sure they don't miss my name at all. That's the attitude that they had to found the country. Liberty or death was not a hashtag or a bumper sticker or a T shirt or a ball cap or a website. Liberty or death was the attitude that took to build the country, and they were willing to risk at all for future generations.

Well who's the future generation? Uh, the ones of us talking right now on this podcast, all the people listening to this podcast. It's us that they were doing that for. So who are we to sit here as the benefactors of all the risk that they took to only go You know what, I'm not gonna say it because I might get kicked off at Twitter. I'm not gonna say it because somebody give me a dirty look at work. I'm not gonna say it because it might hurt my

business a little bit. Really, that's what we're worried about. I think as Americans, we've got to remember whose shoulders were standing on that we need to act like it. I'm so glad you said that, because I mean, look, I've always loved this country. I've always been proud to

be American. But it really kind of took COVID it and some of the things that we've been dealing with as a society just to sort of revisit American history and realize what makes this country great, Realize how precious freedom is, liberty is, and how fleeting it is, because I, you know, really, before a lot of this stuff, I don't know, I I for whatever reason, thought somehow we were immune to some of this stuff because we are Americans. But but we're not. And we've really seen that, and

it's as sad to see. Yeah, and Americans, a lot of Americans anyway, lack perspective. You know, it's been a long long time since our freedom was actually threatened, which in my opinion was World War Two. After last time it was actually threatened. If we hadn't beat Hitler and Mussolini and Imperial Japan, if we would have lost that war, you'd have a very different America today, very different. But they did what they had to do and and and won a war on both sides of the earth simultaneously

to get us to the point we are today. But everybody that's alive today, nobody has any touchstone back to the World War two era. Nobody remembers that. I mean, all of our World War two bets now are in the late nineties hundred. Nobody's around that remembers that. And I think that the complacency has set in over these over these many decades, with Americans thinking, yeah, we're free, and we'll always be free and go America. But what we fail to realize is is there's all kinds of

factions of people. There's international factions, but there's internal factions inside of our country that would really like to see this country come under control. You know, they'd really like to see America have to be on its knee so it has to reach up for help so they can take full control of the most powerful country in the world. That's really the point here, and we've been blind and deaf to it, just rolling on about our business thinking, now,

that's not going on. Nobody would ever do that. Why would you want to mess up America? Nobody want to mess up America. We're the greatest, well we are the great it is, but there's a lot of people that to get what they want to see happen, come to fruition. America has got to be down on its knees for that to happen. And I believe that's where we found ourselves today. And instead of the great reset, I do

believe it is a great awakening. As scary as it is and as nasty as it is to go through, I think that Americans from both sides of the political aisle, from all different walks of life, are all experiencing the same pain at the same time. And I said this to the day on Twitter. I said, America is finding

unity in the pain right now. As bad as that is to say, if there's a silver lining to what's going on, Americans are finally waking up and going, hang on a minute, are these people trying to railroad our country because it's sure as hell looks like it and we're going to Yeah, I think that's what they're trying to do, and none of us want to see that happen.

So it's an interesting time, and even it's the most important time I think right now to be out spoken, to not let them scare you into submission, do not take the knee. Uh, they've built their machine. There are ways around their machine. We can still exist and succeed and thrive without using their machines. And as an artist and an entrepreneur, gut, that's kind of what I'm out to prove to everybody that it can be done well.

And I love that you did that, because you did that with this song Progress and we're gonna play a clip here just in a minute. But what I love about how you released it is you released it on Truth, Social and Rumble and within hours it's soared to the number one Apple Tunes chart, So you're able to beat the machine and do it your own way. And I love that I love that you did that way. Yeah,

it was. It was a risky thing to do. I can promise you that had I run that idea by the people I work with, my managers and people, really smart guys, they would have said, yeah, that's not a good way to probably have the most success, John, because think of all the people you're cutting out by not going to Twitter, face Book or YouTube. But the song says one of the lines says, they shut down our voices,

they shut down our main street, they shut down our voices. Well, the voices who shut them down who I'm referring to are the liberal platforms YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and the like. And I thought, you know, it would be awful hypocritical of me to put a song out like this railing against those platforms no systems, but then use those same systems to go promote a song. I mean, to me, that just seemed like double talk, which I can't stand

people that double talk. I thought, well, I may not have as good a chance of this thing going to number one, but I'll do it the right way, and hey, you never know, maybe I'll be surprised. And within six hours of launching this song only on true social and rumble. Within six hours, it had displaced Lizzo and Billie Eilish out of the number one in two spots and progress. And this is with no record label, no marketing funds, nothing, no in diustry support whatsoever. In six hours, it's said

at number one. And I just looked at that and went, holy cow, look at that. It's possible. And it kind of speaks to where people are, right because obviously this struck a chord with people. People listen to the song and they said, I feel this, this is how I feel right now, which is why it was able to rise to number one. So I mean, I think a lot of Americans listen to it. I know I did and said, yeah, I agree, this is where we are. Like does the phrase ding ding ding come into play

when you hear that? It does. Also, it was funny when you're talking about how you know, if you ran the idea by your team, they you don't really strike me as the kind of guy, you know, even if they're like, hey, John, this isn't in your interest, you don't really strike me as the kind of guy to you know, say all right, we're not going to do it. Strike as the kind of guy who's going to do it. Anyways, if you think it's the right thing, you would be

correct in that assumption, especially now. I think listen, theer's a lot of a lot of songwriters, singers, movie users, all kinds are really talented people that have content that they know if they put it on the big platforms, it's gonna get it's gonna get cut down. They just know it, and then they're right about that. So this was like, Okay, I'm gonna be a Daniel Boone here for a minute. I'm gonna pioneer out here for a second.

And instead of taking advantage of all these platforms, let's just don't do it and see if we can see if we can compete at a really high level without using them. Is it even possible? And that that's a hell of a question. And we just proved yes, it's not only possible, you can you can thrive with that. And what I found is that the the outpouring of support is maybe even more at this point because they realized, man, he didn't go, he didn't go with those big machines.

He didn't yell at the machine and then use the machine. He yelled at the machine and then walked away from the machine and still one. And I think people appreciate that. I hope other content creators look at this and go, Okay, it's possible, because I can promise you true social rumble. Those platforms they are they are wanting to hit the gas pedal behind content creators that are putting out really, really excellent pieces. They want to get behind them and

blow them up. If we're in a culture war, which we are, how do you keep track if you're making any progress or not to play upon on that word, the real progress, Well, if you can take pieces away from them, take away their prize property. And in the world of music, the most prize property out there is the number one sales position. That's the big one, because there's no bigger vote of confidence than for somebody to hit that download button and they spend a buck twenty nine.

You know, it's not a free stream or something like that. They have to play a little bit of buck twenty nine, but they do it and they download it. That's the ultimate confirmation that you're having impact. That's the price property that the music industry has. So for us to be sitting there right now is a huge statement. I so respect you doing that. And I want to play a clip right now for the for the audience at home. Let's play clip. There's a whole in this country where

it's harder to be. No wole is divided on the barrens tree they see feeling back make America. If that's what we've loved, the future own gods say, stick your where the song keep. I love that line there's a hole in this country where the heart used to be. Because I think a lot of us Americans, you know, that's basically this conversation we've been having is how do

people not love this country? You know, we live in the greatest country in the world, and we're just sitting there watching all these people on the left have no respect for it and no respect for the people who have laid down their lives to preserve the freedoms that

we have now. And it's just like to your point, you know, there's a hole in this country where it's hard used to be as hell love it When they get arrested in Russia, don't they You find yourself in handcuffs in a in a socialist, communist country and you're begging your country to take you back. When you just got through trash in our flag on a national platform and talking smack about the red, white, and blue up

in front of God and everybody. But you get yourself in a bind in a communist country, and who are you calling daddy? You're calling your mama, Hey, come get me out. I can't be stuck here. Really, I think you're where you wanted to be. You know, you trash. You trash the country you live in. You don't respect that, you don't appreciate it. Now you're finding out what other countries are all about. Oh yeah, you don't have freedom over there, do you know you don't. You got to

due process? No, no, you don't. Uh that to me, that is such a poignant thing to see that athlete arrested in uh, in communist Russia, UH and watch her beg for America to come bail her out after she just got through trash in US. I said earlier Lisa that a lot of Americans lacked perspective. What I mean by that, they haven't been around the world. I've had the I've had the ability to travel all over the

planet and sing music everywhere. I've sang it in I've sing it in Central America, the Middle East of singing it in places in Europe, South America, Asia. I've been all over the place and you see people living in situations and you go, now, I can't wait to get back home. I mean, wow, I can't believe people dealing with this every single day of their life and you get back home. Go. Man. We're not perfect, but we are head and shoulders above everybody else. And that's why

everybody wants to live in America. That's why we got lines coming in and no lines going out, and we never will have lines going out ever in this country. And so they lacked perspective until they ultimately get it, which is what that athletes having right now, a big dose of perspective. Please conveil me out, America. I don't hate you anymore. I ain't. Okay, it's a little late for that, sister, but uh okay, yeah, it's a little

if that. And it also just shows these people have no idea what they're talking about, right, Like they want to hate on America at your point, they don't have that perspective, you know, they have no idea, They have no idea what the alternative looks like. And we certainly don't want to find out, John Rich, You're awesome. Anything you want to leave us with before we go, I just hope people keep their chin up. I hope people, uh,

they catch a big case of courage. I hope that they on their level wherever they are with their neighbors and people they talk to and hang around with. You need to be bold, you need to speak your mind, and you need to realize that there's a lot of people out there, um that will follow suit if they see you doing it first. Somebody's got to be the point of the spirit, even down to the down to

the very neighborhood and street that you live on. Remember that you're American, Remember whose shoulders you're standing on, and act like it. And if we do that, we'll get our country straightened out. That's awesome, and go check out his new song Progress, John Redg. I really respect you, respect what you're doing, and I respect your voice. So thank you for taking a stand and taking time to come on the show. I really appreciate it. Yes, ma'am,

I love your voice as well. You're you're a very important voice in our country, and I'm honored to be on your podcast all any time. How awesome, John, I think that's so cool. Everything he does for veterans. He's an awesome guy. And I appreciate him joining the show. And I appreciate you at home for listening every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week The Truth with Lisa Ruth. I want to thank my executive producer for all the work he puts into putting this together.

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