A Conversation with Monica Crowley

forward to this episode. One just reconnecting with a friend, and then two just turned from her about everything that's going on in the country. We've got the FBI raid, we've got election coming up. You know, everything seems to be going wrong in the country right now. So I'm just really looking to her to get her insight on all of this, to sort of, you know, let us know what we need to be looking at, what's ahead.

Getting her insight. You know her from Fox News. She was on Fox for a number of years, still still is on Fox. She left to go serve the Trump administration. Served the country as a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury. She has her own podcast. She's the host of the Monica Crowley Podcast. You're gonna want to go check that out as well. She is an author. I mean, she used to be on the Council on Foreign Relations. I mean, you can go down the list of all the things

that Monica Crowley has done. She is brilliant, she is smart, and she's an awesome person. So I really hope you enjoyed this interview with Monica Crowley. So I am so excited about this guy. So we have Monica Crowley. Monica, I've been suing you and so long. I miss you. I know I miss you too, Lisa. I can't wait to see you in person again and give you big squeeze. Yeah, we'll have to u connect in Florida. So I think you're in West Palm and I'm in Miami, so we

need to connect soon. I can't wait. I mean, Monica, it's just I think we're all just looking at the events of the past week and really just the past few months, and are asking ourselves, you know, what's going on in America, what's going on in the country right now? You know, Lisa, there's so many days I wake up and I literally want this all to be a bad dream, like I wanted to be that I slept through a nightmare that Joe Biden was president and deliberately torpedoing the

United States of America. And when I really come to Donald Trump will still be president, We'll have a thriving economy and world peace. But unfortunately, sadly, that's not the case. So look, I think what the American people need to really understand is what actually is happening here. And you and I we work in news, we do our podcasts, we appure on Fox News, we're on radio. It. You know, it's very easy to get lost in the trees and loose sight of the forest because we're constantly battling back

that the daily horror. Right So, whether it's the FBI rating mar Lago, or the astrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan one year ago, or whatever it might be, raging inflation, sky high gas prisis, we tend to get lost in the day to day because it's also horrific. But I really think that the American people need to take a step back with us and understand what's really going on. We are in the midst right now of a Neo Marxist revolution.

And I don't use that phrase lightly, Lisa. I don't just throw around this stuff like, oh, you know, it's it's also crazy. Yeah, it is so crazy, but there is a method to their madness. The modern Democratic Party is not the Democratic Party of JFK or Bill Clinton. This is now a Marxist revolutionary party. And the key two words there are Marxist, so you need to know what the ideology is, but also revolutionary. They are literally

revolutionaries working around the clock too. In Obama's words, fundamentally transformed the nation. When a Bama said that in Lisa, I remember going on Fox News with like Bill O'Reilly and John Imus and they were all like, oh, come on, Crowley communism, and I need if you use the word communism or Marxism at the time, I used the softer socialism. They were like, Crowley socialism, You're crazy, Like, come on, Barack Obama socialists and I was like yeah, yeah, and

we need to understand where this is going. So Obama had eight years to begin that transformation of the country, and unfortunately, like there were very few of us. It was like you and me and a couple of other people who actually had the courage to to tease it out to the next step, which is, well, what what exactly does Obama mean by the fundamental transformation of the nation.

So many people wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt and say, well, you know, he he just means, you know, kind of restore restore America's power after the war in Iraq, and this and that. No, that this is the fundamental transformation of the nation as the Democrats today mean. It is away from the very pillars that made us great individual liberty, economic freedom, strong, national defense, um and and all of the things that that gave

this country to pushed toward greatness. In a very short amount of time, they intend to strip the country of free market capitalism and individual freedom and take this country in a more collectivist, neo Marxist or neo communist kind of model. Donald Trump was not supposed to be elected in sixteen. It was supposed to be eight years of Obama than eight years of Hillary where they could really lock all of this in. So when Trump got elected, he threw a monkey wrench in their whole great reset

here at home, this whole grand project. And so what you're seeing now, Lisa, to answer your question about what is going on that they are making up for lost time they lost four years under Trump, where Trump actually was solving all of America's problems and delivering a thriving economy and world peace. They lost those four years. So now what you're seeing is this great reset here at home on steroids. They're moving with all deliberate speed to

make up for that lost time. But make no mistake about it, this is a neo Communist, a Marxist revolution that we are living through right now. What's your point. I mean, they're they're destroying every institution, They're destroying the things that's even just stabilize the country. I mean, the

rule of law. I mean, you look at how lawless these cities are across America, where you know, these people who are murdered, you know, it's just revolving door of crime, of letting these people out and not punishing them and treating uh, you know, in the instance of Jose Jose Alba, you know, treating uh, you know, the victim as the criminal and the criminal as the victim. It's just this

totally warped perspect active we're in. But to your point, you know that they are essentially waging this war on Donald Trump. You can go through the list of investigations that they've launched his way. Uh, impeachment. The list goes on. He's facing civil investigation in New York, You've got the FBI rating his home. He's also facing another probe out of Georgia. I mean, how far do you think Democrats will take all of this? I think they want to take it as far as they can can take it,

which is ultimately they want Donald Trump in prison. I remember going on Sean Hannity's show on Fox News March of twenties seventeen, so Donald Trump had been president for only two months, and I remember saying on the air to Sean and to America that they don't just want to undermine Trump's presidency or destroy his presidency, although they certainly wanted to do that. They want the man in prison.

And I remember, you know, you and I both know Sean it takes a lot to like render him speechless leave but he was like like, I was like, you, You've got to understand they want the man in prison.

And I wrote a New York Post article about it at the time because I had worked for President Nixon during the last years of his life, and President Nixon, after he resigned, gave a series of very famous interviews to David Frost, and in those interviews he said, look, I should have known that I was surrounded by enemies. And he said, I should have known that there was a standard for Democrats, a standard for Republicans, and then there was a standard for me. And unfortunately I gave

my enemies the sword. It was a very famous quote and very famous, and I wrote an article warning Donald Trump very early in his presidency, do not give your enemies the sword, because your enemies are Richard Nixon's enemies. That they're all the same enemies. And yes, people die and faces changed, but I'm talking about the institutional enemies of the deep state, the permanent bureaucracy, the media, the international community, the left, the Democrats. Institutionally, they're all the

same enemies. Why Because both Richard Nixon and Donald Trump were the ultimate outsiders. They came from the outside, not from the ruling class, and therefore they were not behold into the ruling class and not tied up with towing the ruling classes corrupt line and delivering the corrupt status

quo and protecting each other. No, Richard Nixon and uh Donald Trump both were genuinely elected because they wanted to deliver for the American people, and they did, and therefore they had to be destroyed because they were not there

to tow the corrupt ruling classes party line. So you know, Donald Trump is facing the exact same institutional enemies, and that's why, you know, Lisa, they're not going to stop, because he represents an existential threat to all of them, and they're absolute grip on power in this country to

control everything, including the UNI Party. So because he represents such an existential threat, and he has not cried Uncle once Richard Nixon, you know, the pressure ultimately became too much for him to bear, and he he decided to resign when Barry Goldwater, the head of the Republicans in the Senate, came to the White House and told him that his Republican support in the Senate had collapsed. So if he were facing impeachment, he would probably be convicted

in the Senate trial. And it was at that moment that Nixon said that said, I'm done. It became too much. Donald Trump has not cave to that pressure at all yet, and I don't think he's going to, which means the other side is never gonna stop targeting him and and trying to stop him. Um from from actually delivering for America. Again,

it's not really about Donald Trump. Donald Trump is us right, He's like a stand in for the average American who just wants, you know, good economy, feed their family, live their life according to their own free will. Donald Trump was allowing that, and therefore he needs to be stopped. Well, that's the irony hairs. We just want to be left alone.

It's like they just leave us alone and let us live our lives freely and independently, and uh, you know, give us a little individual liberty, and that's what we want, as you know, patriotic Americans. You know, what, what do you think people get wrong about Nixon? It's such a great question, Lisa. Nobody has asked me that in a really long time, so I appreciate the question. I always loved talking about him because he was such a great man who got who made a series of mistakes, and

nobody's excusing that, including Richard Nixon. He took full responsibility for intervening in the Watergate scandal and making a series of really bad mistakes based on bad information that people, including the deep state, we're feeding him. Um. But I think when people get wrong about Nixon. We've all been taught and this probably holds true for most, if not all, Republican presidents, the modern ones anyway, that they're somehow dark

and evil, um, somehow corrupt, um somehow stupid. Right, you're either like stupid or evil or corrupt or something that that's how the press and the left paints them. Richard Nixon was the exact opposite of that. And I was so blessed to spend four years working for him, during the last four years of his life. UM, and I found him to be first of all, brilliant, which even his detractors will concede. He was absolutely brilliant. And you know what else, Lisa and I say this all the

time about him. We have had just a few, um, actual visionaries as president, and by visionary, I mean presidents who could see what the world was gonna look like forty years down the road and as president make American policy while they were in office to anticipate that world. So Richard Nixon was one of our rare visionaries um in doing that. And also, you know, he was very generous, He was kind, he was very funny, which I think you know, if you're asking me a point of question

about what people get wrong. They think he was very serious, and he was. He was an intellectual, so yeah, he was very serious, but he also and he was a loner for the most part. Um, but he was very funny, and I think people you didn't really show that to the American people, which is unfortunate because I think when you show a sense of humor some self effacement, that can go a long way, especially in politics when the crap hits the fan, which is always inevitable for any leader.

And I'm not saying that a sense of humor could have saved him in Watergate, but I think it could have blunted a lot of the negativity about him. He was very, very funny, loved his family, was a great father, a very good grandfather. I was around his grandkids at the time when they were young, and it was just it was such a blessing to be around him because he really saw how the real world worked. Um, and I love just watching how his mind work. He was

absolutely brilliant. Well, and it's funny because you mentioned how a sense of humor goes a long way, and in my mind, the first thing that popped up, and I love Megan Kelly, I've I've always thought she was. She's incredible and she's incredibly talented. Uh, but the first thing that came into my mind was president or ben candidate only.

Rosie o'donald response. Yeah, probably one of the best. You know, Donald Trump is the ultimate showman, right, I mean he sort of came out of real estate but also the entertainment world, and nobody can match him. He's just authentically funny, Like even in his rallies, even now, like six years in, Lisa, you watched these rallies, he does like an hour and a half of standout only Rosie o'donald, Right, I mean,

he's incredible. He's got the whole country laughing, except the ones who really hate him, and they one of the many reasons they hate him is because he's doing this out of pure love for the country, but also he's having fun, and they're like, oh, no, no fun allowed in American politics. Don't you know we're in the middle of a communist revolution. There's no fun here. He is out there having fun and making the American people laugh, even all these years in It's extraordinary, but isn't an

intentional tactic of the left though. I think they want Americans beaten down. They don't want fun, they don't want the ability to engage in conversation, they don't want the ability to engage in laugh or. They want everyone to owe nothing, be depressed, being their home all day long. You know, disconnected from family, disconnected. Isn't that the objective of the left? I think they're intentionally trying to be

the great point at least you're totally right. You know, the old line about communism is that it's sold as that they glorify the sense of equality under communism, But the only thing that communism actually delivers is an equal share of poverty and misery. And that misery word is critical because if you're sitting atop a miserable, dispirited, depressed population, those people are more easily controllable. That's the point. Quick commercial break, more with Monica Crowley. So, you know, Monica,

very familiar with the Knicks and administration. You've worked for the Trump administration as well, so you've seen the deep state. You understand the deep state in a very real way. How do you tackle the deep state. It's a really good question and a very difficult one because the deep state really manifested after World War Two in America, um, when the country was booming. But we really did have a massive infiltration of actual communists into the United States government.

You know, Senator McCarthy gets a bad rap with the have you no decency sir, because he was trying to lead the charge to expose the communist infiltration in the US in the government, and it was real and it was happening, and he was smeared by the press and others for being a commun as hunter when oh, there

was no communism here. There was, and it was very real, and he knew it um and he was out there trying to expose it the way Donald Trump all these years later is trying to expose the depth of their corruption and the the rot in our institutions. People forget that the deep state actually began as a KGB operation.

The KGB in the nineteen thirties said we've got to defeat the United States, and they came at us at the time in like a full frontal way, and then they realized, wait a minute, their constitution is really durable, and these people really love their country and the liberties that they have, so that's gonna be too tough. Then World War Two came, we're basically on the same side

to defeat Nazi Germany. But after World War Two, when the Iron Curtain came down, the KGB changed their tactics and they said, Okay, we're not going to be able to destroy the United States from without, so we're going to destroy them from within. And so they began this infiltration, especially in the government, which I talked about, but also set their sights on the major pillars of American life

and culture, the things that really uphold this nation. So they went after and grabbed control over the news media, academia, and our culture movies, television, music. So once they were infiltrated, in addition to the government being infiltrated, they created like and not just the deep state like you think, oh, the CIA, the FBI, that kind of deep state, which is incredibly powerful and dangerous, but also they created a deep state outside of the government by grabbing control of

these pillars. So when we talk about how we defeat it, it is a huge uphill battle because they're in every

nook and cranny of American society and life. So if you're talking about the government aspect of this, this is going to require a president, whether it's Trump or De Santis or whomever, and and maybe multiple presidents because the project is so big to really take it on, be willing to take this on, have the political will to do it, and in a first term, really in the first year of a new presidency, you've got to smash

the entire uh deep state. And by that, I mean you've got to take control of firing entire classes of people in the US government careers, political appointees, everybody needs to go. You've got to shrink these institutions. And there's some argument that you don't even need like an FBI, or you've got to raise it to the ground and start from scratch. I'm among those people who believes that

the FBI in particular is beyond redemption. So you've got to raise it to the ground and start from scratch with a brand new institution, hiring individuals that are fully vetted and that that is, that are easily watchable um and monitored for their behavior, because right now we have none of at So you've got institutions that wholesale needs to be rooted, up root and branch, Lisa, but you've got to have a president who's got nerves of steel

in order to do this. And there are only two that I can see on the landscape, Donald Trump and Ron Santis. And and Donald Trump has been through this um and he's certainly in their cross hairs and remain so, but Ron and Santis as well. I mean, he is fully aware of what the internal enemies are in the United States. So I think those two men are really the only two with the fortitude to take on this.

And as far as government goes, you've got to upproach, uproot all of it, fire everybody, remove the rot from all the way down to the ground. And then in terms of the culture, that's a much more long range project.

But that's why you know, when we've got conservative authors, conservative television, conservative movies, documentaries, we need to go and support that to the helps go buy movie to gets for Christian movies and so on, because you've got to start sending these signals that we're not going to tolerate the rot that's going on everywhere else. Besides the government. This has to be a wholesale change of the US culture.

And again, Lisa, they have been at this for decades, so this isn't something that I think one president can do alone, and he and they um have to have the support of all of us. We cannot go wobbly. We've got to give them total back up here on the ground. Well, and I'm a De Santis or Trump too. I think those are the only two. And De Santis is incredibly methodical and very disciplined, uh and his execution as well. So those are my two guys that uh,

you know, I i'd vote for. I don't think anyone else has the stomach for what needs to get done. And it really needs to happen on day one because even when President Trump fired Comy, there's just too much time, you know, then it looked they try to make it look like, oh he was covering up, you know. So you've got to do it day one, get rid of at as many people as you possibly can, just anthel government from within as much as you possibly can on

day one. I think that's the first step of action in my opinion, that the next Republican president, if we can get one end, that's what they gotta do. Yes, absolutely, and I think both both men now understand that no matter whom the Republicans nominated for president in twenty four the left is going to burn down the country again. So you know a lot of people say, oh, well, Donald Trump, with the drama and all of this, understand

that the left is at war. There. It were with the Constitution, there were with individual liberty, there were with free market capitalism. They're at war. So it doesn't matter if you nominate Donald Trump or Rhonda Santis or Christie nom or whomever. It doesn't matter. They're going to burn down the country again. So my view is you better go with the guy that you believe has been through the fire before and has the guts the stones to push forward with this, because that's what it's going to

take to see of this country. Well, and they smear everyone too, you know. I mean they called even Romney it was a sexist, McCain was a ratio. I'm an anthem, exactly exactly. This is what they do. Yeah, It's like they just smear everyone and anyone that is in their path,

you know. So we're it's been a year since that disastrous withdraw from Afghanistan, which was a real turning point, I believe in the public perception of this administration, just saying a president stand there and turn his back to questions, turn his back to the Americans that were left behind Afghanistan. There's still in Afghanistan. Um. Wait, you know what's going through your mind in reflecting a year after that disastrous withdrawal.

You know, it's hard to believe that a year has gone by, because we all remember it's so crystal clear and we could not believe our eyes. It's really hard to overstate the catastrophic nature of what he what he did. Now, Donald Trump ran in t you know, getting the US out of all foreign wars, and he kept his word when it came from Afghanistan. The Trump administration had a very clear plan on how to withdraw fully in a

very responsible way with conditions based. Um, he was going to leave a remnant force, a very small remnant force, as a deterrent to the resurgence of the Taliban and terrorist forces there. He was going to carry it out in a very responsible way in a second term. That second term name never happened. But they handed off the plan to the Biden administration. Now at the time, Joe Biden, and he continues to be this way Orange Man bad.

Everything Orange Man did bad. Therefore we're going to do the exact opposite of what Orange Man did, even though Orange Man delivered a thriving economy and world peace. So as part of that absolutely absurd, childish and dangerous strategy, Lisa, they decided to say, well, Biden said, I'm getting out now, and I'm not going to use the Trump plant forget it.

So we're just going to do a precipitous withdrawal. That meant taking the military out first, which even a three year old, if you described it to them, would tell you if you're going to be a huge mistake, take the military outlast. But no, Biden took out the military first,

stranding thousands of American citizens in a terrorist war zone. UM, imperiling the Afghan people that had come to trust us and our word, sending women in Afghanistan once again back to the Stone Age, veiled, no education, and so on, everybody there under threat, and created a power vacuum in Afghanistan which has obviously and predictably been filled by al Qaeda. I mean, we just took out um also were here

he who was hanging out where in Afghanistan? So al Qaida's back the Taliban, but also the Chinese, the Russians, and the Iranians. They're all over Afghanistan, controlling it, running it, having a field day, and using the country as a base of operation for all kinds of nefarious plans against

the United States and our interests around the world. You know what I just went through my mind when it kind of made me laugh a little bit in a in a sad way, because you're talking about, you know, Orange Man bad Biden coming in wanting to do with a complete opposite of what President Trump did. Well. President Trump was probably one of the best presidents we had and and to your point, really he Biden has done the opposite which has led us to this dumpster fire

that we're in today. Whether it's the economy, whether it's immigration and it open borders, or Afghanistan. I mean, he really, you know, has done the opposite which has put us in, uh you know, this sad and uh you know, terrible

place that we are in in American history. Yeah. Absolutely, And I talk a lot about this on my podcast because it's critical that the American people understand where we are here and keep in mind, when he withdrew in that catastrophic way from Afghanistan, America's biggest enemies, we're watching ching very closely, including the Kremlin and including Beijing, and they saw that we have a weak, senile commander in chief who really doesn't really care about America's interests or

the interest of freedom around the world, or in defending those interests. So what do you think Vladimir Putin did? He immediately began planning the invasion of Ukraine. Beijing. Now President She, they are also eyeing up Taiwan because they all realize Li said that they've got a very small wind of opportunity to act in their nation's interests. Look, I don't blame She or Putin for doing what they're doing.

They would be politically negligent if they didn't try to advance their country's interests at this period of time with a very weak United States and a very weak American president. So of course they're going to take advantage of this moment, as they should, but it's going to be a very heavy lift for the next president to try to re establish peace and stability and advanced freedom in the wake of all of this. Well, and President Trump was probably

the best foreign policy president we've ever had. I know, he really got me. I've talked about this in my podcast, quite a quite a deal that he has. Really, he really got me to re examine the way I view foreign policy because you know, previously I thought that you needed to engage more to sort of show might and to you know, assert your stature in the world. And President Trump relay showed that you don't have to send troops, right.

You can send Mother of All bombs to Afghanistan. You can send Tomahawk missiles to Syria while you're having you know, chocolate cake. You can do all these different things to flect your might, take out constant ceremony. And so he really, you know, was one of the best foreign policy presidents we've had, and I think got a lot of people to open their eyes and and sort of reimagine how

foreign policy should look and how it should look moving forward. Yes, And like you, I was kind of raised on American interventionism, you know, and you know, sort of the Reagan years, in the George W. Bush years and so on. It was like American interventionism around the world. You know, you US, uh foreign policy is all about being world police. Um. And then we saw you know, Afghanistan obviously, um. And then we saw you know, Iraq obviously and these things

imploded over time. Well, Donald Trump comes in and he's like, wait a minute, Yes, we are the most powerful nation on Earth, but we don't need to flex necessarily in such a huge way, leaving such a huge footprint. We can actually impress upon our enemies that we are the world's superpower. We are going to stand up for our interests and our allies interests, but we're gonna do it with a much smaller footprint, and we're gonna do it

in a much more precise, targeted way. And one of the things that people really overlook with Donald Trump is that in lieu of sending hundreds of thousands of US troops abroad, he used the scalpel of economic sanctions. So Trump really expanded the nature of economic war against our enemies rather than you know, the blunt force of sending American troops overseas, and that that really precise kind of

strategy worked a lot. I mean, you think about the um the sanctions on various entities out of Russia that he used to keep the Russians at bay, but also you think about the terrorists that were leveled against and it exactly yeah, and the threat of terroiffs against like, for example, Japan and South Korea that are real strong and allies of the United States, Lisa. But he was saying, look, if you're not going to come to the table on trade, I'm going to have to pull the trigger on this.

And they all knew that he meant it, which means that they all came to the table. You know, they knew that he wasn't bssing anybody or you know, or or anything, and they did not want to call his blood. And so they all came to the table and negotiated much fairer trade deals with the United States that ended up protecting the American worker. It's gonna take a real quick break back with Monica. Alright, Monica, I know you said President Trump or just stantists are the two that

you think could do the job for Republicans. Obviously Biden. It would be shocking if Biden makes it to running and twenties deteriorating and unraveling, unraveling in real time every time he goes out and gives a speech, which is rare. Uh what do you think? Who who do Democrats run? What's going to happen on the other side? For so, Yeah, I talk a lot about this on my podcast too, at Lisa, because it's a huge question. Anybody with the brain understands that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are not

gonna be on the Democratic ticket. Uh come, they're just not. Joe Biden doesn't know what plenty is on and Kamala Harris's historically the most unpopular vice president u S history, so they're not going to run either one of them. The problem for the Democrats is not necessarily Joe Biden there, they'll find a way to get rid of him. Kamala Harris, on the other hand, might be a little bit more

of a challenge to get rid of her. That they're going to have to offer her a big job with a lot of money to ease her out of there, and even then she might put up a real fight, but if they make it sweet enough, she will depart

the scene. But the problem is that the most devoted constituency of the Democrats is black women, so she is clearly a woman of color, and so if they're gonna dump her, they've got a challenge there because they're the party of fire, circular, circular firing squad and identity politics, so they're gonna eat themselves alive if they did her for like a white guy like Davin Newsom or something,

that that's not gonna happen. So you've got to figure out and we've got to think ahead in terms of how do they square that circle, how do they solve the woman of color problem for themselves? And you know, I said the said seepack earlier this year, and the entire room of thousands of people gasped when I said it. But I think we need to deal in reality here, which is that the Democrats could solve that problem by

running Michelle Obama. And if they were to run Michelle um and again, I don't know how realistic this is, but the woman is very, very political, and she has a voting rights organization right now along with Stacy Abrams.

She has followed the exact path that her husband and and Bill Clinton followed to get to the presidency, which is write and autobiography, to try to preempt any kind of investigative journalism in your background, go on a big nationwide tour and the cycle before give the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention, which Michelle did las time,

and people forget that. So I think, you know, it does us no favors to put our heads in the sand and protect pretend like this worst case scenario is not going to happen. I don't know whether or not she's going to run, but I think we need to to deal in that reality right now and be prepared for it so that if they do run someone weaker, we're even more prepared. But Michelle Obama is She's an icon, she is very popular, and she is immune to criticism as a former First Lady and a woman of color.

So we better, we better be prepared. And I hope Donald Trump or Ron Santas any other Republican thinking about running, that they have that on their radar and they're drawing up real plans on how to counter her, because to me, she's the only one that could pose a very significant challenge to any Republican smart and soak. I mean, can you imagine the media coverage. Oh yeah, I mean they they'd be drooling over her. She'd have the entire Obama

machine behind her. Well, that's concerning. I know, I'm I'm sorry, Lisa. I want to bring better news to you, But look, I mean, we can't live in denial, right If they're going to run it. We got got to start getting prepared, figuring out strategies to counter this. Um. She may not run if she doesn't run. Look, Mrs Clinton is still on the scene. She's still you know, eating alive by the idea that she never became president. She could step in.

Gavin Knewsome obviously wants to run. Um. And there are others out there as well who are looking at this and and sort of drooling at the chance. And then Kamala, you know, is still a player. Um. I think if they run Kamala, you know, we could beat her by l twenty points. Um. But you know, the Democrats are very smart. Power is the only thing that matters to them so that they can leverage it to get this

neo communist revolution further down the road. So they will do anything, and they will they will reempt anybody, um in order to do that. Look, this is right now, this is Obama's third term. Biden is not really the president. Barack and Michelle or the president. They're running the whole thing through Susan Rice in the White House. So if you've got Obama's third term right now, obviously they're gonna want a fourth and a fifth and they're gonna do whatever it takes to get it. How do you take

on Michelle Obama. It's a big question. Yeah, I mean running She's a black woman running with the entire uh Democratic machine and Obama machine behind her. It would be a very difficult uphill battle. I think, Look, they can't run on policies, so we are side would absolutely have

to focus on policy. But remember, the Democrats are really good at basing their appeals in emotion, and if you've got a black woman at the top of the ticket in Michelle Obama appealing to emotion, it's like a triple whammy. So we would really have to focus on delivering for the American people. I think obviously, no Democrat is going to be able to run on the Biden record, which is such a disaster um, so they're gonna have to run on Democrats would have to run on nostalgia. I

said this is at Speck as well. They're gonna have to run on like an Obama restoration or if it's Mrs Clinton, you know, a Clinton restoration, Clinton Obama restoration. Whatever. They're gonna have to run on like a motion rather

than the truth about their disastrous policies. So our side is going to have to try to counter that with policy rather than try to get personal because and you know, Donald Trump is the master of the personal slam, you know, Lions Head and Little Marco and the rest of it. Um he or de Santis, if he runs and gets the nomination, they're not going to be able to do that to Michelle. Can you imagine the press coverage of that.

I mean, they're going to call them raging racist anyway, but if they attack Michelle in any way other than policy, it it's going to be a bonfire here. So I'm hoping that political strategists smarter than you and me, Lisa, and we're pretty good, but I'm hoping that they have their thinking caps on right now about how to go about this. Besides the last bit of news that it's no I love you, I love but love talking to you. Is there is there anything else, um, you'd like to

leave us with before we go? Um? I think just the American people are waking up to the reality of what we're facing here, which is the silver lining to all of this. People are awake, not woke, and they're seeing with their own eyes that that the left really has gone too far. You know, these people are revolutionaries, and revolutionaries always overreach because they never rest, they never

go on vacation, they never take a break. Revolutionaries are totally committed to their project and we'll do whatever it takes. And I think more and more Americans now understand that and they're awake to it, which is the good news. But I also want to leave anybody with what we all need to do personally to make sure that UM November works out the way we hope it will with a real red tsunami here, and that is that we all we've got to do our own due diligence in

taking care of our corner of America. So I mean heading into these elections in November, which we all know how they rigged the last election. They will stop at nothing, so they always come up with new and creative ways to rig elections. So I would just encourage everybody in your own community to volunteer your services or your resources to either volunteer to be an election observer, a poll worker on election day. Now we've got election month, so

to be a vote counter. If you're an attorney in your community, volunteer your legal services in case there are legal challenges. Really, I think we all need to step up here and and do this. You know, last week we saw the Arizona primaries. Lisa and I saw something on social media that I thought was great. All of these people across Arizona, everybody on our side that wants to see clean, fair elections, they created these dropbox watch

parties so they like surrounded these drop boxes. They brought their lawn chairs and coolers full of beer and wine and soda and food and chips and glawc and they took shifts just watching the drop boxes to make sure that vote trafficking wasn't happening, or ballot box stuffing and that kind of thing. That's what we need to do.

We need to regain that sense of community and really have each other's backs to make sure our races are clean, that we're supporting America First candidates and getting them over the finish line as President Trump is doing. But we all need to do our part. And then of course on the culture, as I say, by supporting movies, television, music that reinforce our values in order to send Hollywood and the tire Left a real message. So we can all do our part in our corner of America to

make sure that we are bringing America back. I love that everyone go check out Monica's podcast, The Monica Crowley Podcast. Monica, I miss you. It's been so nice to catch up. I really hope we see each other in person soon. I know me too, Lisa, I can't wait. Thank you so much for having me today. I really appreciate it, and I will have you on my podcast very soon. I would love that. You're awesome, so so good to catch up, and I hope to see you soon. You bet.

Thanks so much, Lisa. That was a great Monica Crowley. I don't know that common at the end about Michelle Obama got me so another thing to keep your eyes along with everything else. But it was so much fun to have her on the show. I love Monica, so I really appreciate her making the time. It's so smart. Choice has great insight, and you guys have great insight, and I appreciate you always tuning in listening to the show every Monday every Thursday, but you could listen throughout

the week. Leave us a review, rate US five stars and Apple Podcast. I always love hearing from you guys, and I'm wanna thank John Cassio, my producer, always works hard to put the show together. So until next time,