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0345 » The Fall of Númenor Pt 20 » SA1200 » Sauron Seduces The Eldar (But Not Gil-galad Or Elrond)

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In this chapter, we find rumors of Sauron beginning to unveil his plot. In fact, it’s even debatable what Sauron’s “plot” was from the beginning!
Even so, Gil-galad and Elrond refuse to treat with him, though the Elven-smiths of Eregion are won over. All the while, the Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens in Middle-earth (and that's a bad thing).
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in this chapter we find rumors of Sauron in this chapter we find rumors of Sauron beginning<00:01:45.840> to<00:01:46.140> unveil<00:01:46.500> his<00:01:46.680> plot<00:01:46.979> in<00:01:47.579> fact beginning to unveil his plot in fact beginning to unveil his plot in fact it's<00:01:48.479> even<00:01:48.659> debatable<00:01:49.200> what<00:01:49.619> sauron's<00:01:50.340> exact it's even debatable what sauron's exact

it's even debatable what sauron's exact plot<00:01:51.240> is<00:01:51.659> at<00:01:52.079> this<00:01:52.259> point plot is at this point plot is at this point we'll<00:01:54.119> maybe<00:01:54.299> talk<00:01:54.540> about<00:01:54.720> that<00:01:54.960> some<00:01:55.140> and we'll maybe talk about that some and

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over the course of the next several chapters chapters chapters the<00:02:00.600> original<00:02:00.659> source<00:02:01.200> for<00:02:01.320> this<00:02:01.500> chapter<00:02:01.880> is the original source for this chapter is the original source for this chapter is primarily<00:02:03.600> two<00:02:04.020> sources<00:02:04.560> the<00:02:05.040> history<00:02:05.219> of primarily two sources the history of

primarily two sources the history of Middle<00:02:05.579> Earth<00:02:05.759> part<00:02:06.000> 12<00:02:06.180> the<00:02:06.540> peoples<00:02:06.840> of Middle Earth part 12 the peoples of Middle Earth part 12 the peoples of Middle<00:02:07.140> Earth<00:02:07.380> as<00:02:08.160> well<00:02:08.280> as<00:02:08.520> unfinished<00:02:09.239> Tales Middle Earth as well as unfinished Tales

Middle Earth as well as unfinished Tales all<00:02:11.280> right<00:02:11.520> so<00:02:11.879> year<00:02:12.300> 1200<00:02:12.840> we<00:02:13.080> are<00:02:13.200> 1200<00:02:13.620> years all right so year 1200 we are 1200 years all right so year 1200 we are 1200 years into<00:02:14.280> the<00:02:14.640> second<00:02:14.760> age into the second age

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a mouthful but it really lays out the a mouthful but it really lays out the four<00:02:24.959> key<00:02:25.140> things<00:02:25.379> that<00:02:25.620> we<00:02:25.739> want<00:02:25.860> to<00:02:25.980> consider four key things that we want to consider four key things that we want to consider here here here first<00:02:27.720> Sauron<00:02:28.560> Endeavors<00:02:29.040> to<00:02:29.280> seduce<00:02:29.580> the

first Sauron Endeavors to seduce the first Sauron Endeavors to seduce the Eldar Eldar Eldar so<00:02:31.260> Sauron<00:02:31.800> is<00:02:32.099> not<00:02:32.220> attacking<00:02:32.640> the<00:02:32.819> Eldar<00:02:33.180> he so Sauron is not attacking the Eldar he so Sauron is not attacking the Eldar he is<00:02:33.900> attempting<00:02:34.319> to<00:02:34.560> seduce<00:02:34.920> them<00:02:35.099> he's

is attempting to seduce them he's is attempting to seduce them he's attempting<00:02:35.700> to<00:02:35.819> bring<00:02:36.000> them<00:02:36.180> over<00:02:36.360> to<00:02:36.720> his attempting to bring them over to his attempting to bring them over to his side side side get<00:02:38.879> him<00:02:39.060> to<00:02:39.239> cooperate<00:02:39.660> get<00:02:39.900> them<00:02:40.080> to

get him to cooperate get them to get him to cooperate get them to cooperate<00:02:40.560> with<00:02:40.739> him cooperate with him cooperate with him next<00:02:42.420> we<00:02:42.599> learn<00:02:42.720> that<00:02:42.900> gilgallad<00:02:43.500> refuses<00:02:44.040> to next we learn that gilgallad refuses to

next we learn that gilgallad refuses to treat<00:02:44.400> with<00:02:44.640> him<00:02:44.760> we'll<00:02:45.420> talk<00:02:45.720> a<00:02:45.900> little<00:02:45.959> bit treat with him we'll talk a little bit treat with him we'll talk a little bit more<00:02:46.200> about<00:02:46.379> that<00:02:46.620> in<00:02:46.860> just<00:02:47.040> a<00:02:47.220> moment<00:02:47.459> but

more about that in just a moment but more about that in just a moment but gilgalod<00:02:49.019> he<00:02:49.680> doesn't<00:02:49.860> trust<00:02:50.280> this<00:02:50.640> fella gilgalod he doesn't trust this fella gilgalod he doesn't trust this fella whoever<00:02:51.720> he<00:02:52.019> is whoever he is

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Smiths of region these are the elf the Smiths of region these are the elf the elf<00:02:59.280> Smiths<00:02:59.840> that<00:03:00.840> are<00:03:01.560> uh<00:03:02.340> that<00:03:02.640> are<00:03:02.760> working elf Smiths that are uh that are working elf Smiths that are uh that are working in<00:03:03.360> this<00:03:03.540> area<00:03:03.720> of<00:03:03.959> Aragon in this area of Aragon

in this area of Aragon take<00:03:05.580> a<00:03:05.700> quick<00:03:05.819> look<00:03:06.060> at<00:03:06.239> that<00:03:06.360> on<00:03:06.660> the<00:03:06.900> old<00:03:07.080> map take a quick look at that on the old map

take a quick look at that on the old map right<00:03:07.800> here<00:03:07.980> so<00:03:08.420> region<00:03:09.420> is<00:03:10.080> the<00:03:10.500> region<00:03:10.920> here right here so region is the region here

right here so region is the region here um<00:03:13.319> is<00:03:13.800> the<00:03:13.980> region<00:03:14.280> here<00:03:14.580> to<00:03:15.060> the<00:03:15.540> west<00:03:16.260> of<00:03:16.680> the um is the region here to the west of the

um is the region here to the west of the Misty<00:03:17.159> Mountains<00:03:17.640> so<00:03:17.940> if<00:03:18.060> you<00:03:18.180> kind<00:03:18.300> of<00:03:18.420> think Misty Mountains so if you kind of think Misty Mountains so if you kind of think of<00:03:18.659> the<00:03:18.780> Misty<00:03:19.319> Mountains<00:03:19.739> on<00:03:19.980> our<00:03:20.099> map<00:03:20.280> of

of the Misty Mountains on our map of of the Misty Mountains on our map of Middle<00:03:20.580> Earth<00:03:20.760> as<00:03:21.360> being<00:03:21.659> the<00:03:21.900> spine<00:03:22.200> that Middle Earth as being the spine that Middle Earth as being the spine that runs<00:03:22.680> down<00:03:22.920> the<00:03:23.400> center<00:03:23.640> of<00:03:24.180> the<00:03:24.420> map<00:03:24.540> here

runs down the center of the map here runs down the center of the map here this<00:03:25.379> the<00:03:25.680> spine<00:03:26.040> of<00:03:26.220> mountains<00:03:27.060> that<00:03:27.180> run this the spine of mountains that run

this the spine of mountains that run down<00:03:27.540> to<00:03:27.659> the<00:03:27.780> center<00:03:27.900> of<00:03:28.080> the<00:03:28.200> map<00:03:28.260> here<00:03:28.500> well down to the center of the map here well down to the center of the map here well region<00:03:30.480> is<00:03:31.019> this<00:03:31.379> region<00:03:31.739> in<00:03:32.340> here<00:03:32.459> which<00:03:32.760> is

region is this region in here which is region is this region in here which is just<00:03:33.480> outside<00:03:34.140> of<00:03:34.739> Moria<00:03:35.340> and<00:03:35.640> this<00:03:35.760> is<00:03:35.819> where just outside of Moria and this is where

just outside of Moria and this is where many<00:03:36.300> of<00:03:36.480> the<00:03:36.659> elves<00:03:37.099> uh<00:03:38.099> are<00:03:38.340> dwelling<00:03:38.700> in<00:03:38.879> the many of the elves uh are dwelling in the

many of the elves uh are dwelling in the second<00:03:39.120> age<00:03:39.360> and<00:03:40.140> many<00:03:40.319> of<00:03:40.440> the<00:03:40.560> elves<00:03:40.799> that second age and many of the elves that second age and many of the elves that are<00:03:41.159> that<00:03:41.400> are<00:03:41.640> very<00:03:41.760> creative<00:03:42.180> right<00:03:42.659> that are that are very creative right that

are that are very creative right that are<00:03:43.200> Smith's are Smith's are Smith's and<00:03:46.379> then<00:03:46.500> Lastly<00:03:46.860> lastly<00:03:47.400> we<00:03:47.640> learned<00:03:47.879> the and then Lastly lastly we learned the and then Lastly lastly we learned the numenoreans<00:03:48.599> begin<00:03:48.840> to<00:03:49.140> make<00:03:49.319> permanent numenoreans begin to make permanent

numenoreans begin to make permanent Havens<00:03:50.159> we'll<00:03:50.400> talk<00:03:50.580> a<00:03:50.640> little<00:03:50.700> bit<00:03:50.819> more Havens we'll talk a little bit more Havens we'll talk a little bit more about<00:03:51.060> that<00:03:51.299> in<00:03:51.540> just<00:03:51.780> a<00:03:51.900> moment<00:03:52.080> as<00:03:52.440> we<00:03:52.799> talk

about that in just a moment as we talk about that in just a moment as we talk about<00:03:53.159> Taran<00:03:53.879> kalime<00:03:54.360> who<00:03:55.200> is<00:03:55.260> in<00:03:55.440> the<00:03:55.640> 125th about Taran kalime who is in the 125th

about Taran kalime who is in the 125th year<00:03:56.819> of<00:03:57.060> her<00:03:57.180> Reign<00:03:57.480> we<00:03:57.659> talked<00:03:57.900> a<00:03:57.959> bit<00:03:58.080> about year of her Reign we talked a bit about year of her Reign we talked a bit about Taran<00:03:58.739> kalime<00:03:59.099> in<00:03:59.340> the<00:03:59.459> last<00:03:59.580> episode Taran kalime in the last episode

Taran kalime in the last episode made<00:04:01.920> the<00:04:02.099> first<00:04:02.280> ruling<00:04:02.700> queen<00:04:02.879> of<00:04:03.120> numenor made the first ruling queen of numenor made the first ruling queen of numenor but<00:04:04.980> she<00:04:05.220> comes<00:04:05.519> from<00:04:05.760> a<00:04:06.000> situation<00:04:06.480> of but she comes from a situation of

but she comes from a situation of familial<00:04:07.260> Strife<00:04:07.680> you'll<00:04:08.099> recall<00:04:08.519> we<00:04:08.940> spent<00:04:09.120> a familial Strife you'll recall we spent a familial Strife you'll recall we spent a good<00:04:09.420> deal<00:04:09.540> of<00:04:09.720> time<00:04:09.959> on<00:04:10.260> the<00:04:10.379> story<00:04:10.620> of<00:04:10.920> her

good deal of time on the story of her good deal of time on the story of her father<00:04:11.400> tar<00:04:12.060> aldarion<00:04:12.720> and<00:04:13.459> uh<00:04:14.459> and<00:04:14.939> her father tar aldarion and uh and her father tar aldarion and uh and her mother<00:04:15.299> erindus<00:04:16.519> and<00:04:17.519> their<00:04:18.000> marriage<00:04:18.299> which mother erindus and their marriage which

mother erindus and their marriage which was<00:04:18.780> not<00:04:18.959> a<00:04:19.139> happy<00:04:19.260> one<00:04:19.560> right<00:04:20.040> it<00:04:20.639> should<00:04:20.940> have was not a happy one right it should have

was not a happy one right it should have been<00:04:21.180> happy<00:04:21.359> it<00:04:21.660> could<00:04:21.780> have<00:04:21.900> been<00:04:22.079> happy<00:04:22.260> they been happy it could have been happy they been happy it could have been happy they were<00:04:22.800> very<00:04:23.100> apparently<00:04:23.820> fond<00:04:24.120> of<00:04:24.240> each<00:04:24.419> other

were very apparently fond of each other were very apparently fond of each other at<00:04:24.720> the<00:04:24.840> beginning<00:04:24.960> but<00:04:25.860> because<00:04:26.220> of<00:04:27.060> uh<00:04:27.840> their at the beginning but because of uh their at the beginning but because of uh their different different

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was drawn to the Sea and orindus hated the<00:04:35.759> sea<00:04:36.060> and<00:04:36.900> this<00:04:37.020> really<00:04:37.199> pulled<00:04:37.500> him<00:04:37.560> apart the sea and this really pulled him apart the sea and this really pulled him apart and<00:04:37.979> caused<00:04:38.280> a<00:04:38.340> lot<00:04:38.400> of<00:04:38.520> strife<00:04:38.759> in<00:04:38.940> their

and caused a lot of strife in their and caused a lot of strife in their marriage<00:04:39.360> and<00:04:40.020> on<00:04:40.199> Kali<00:04:40.620> Mae<00:04:40.860> really<00:04:41.040> suffered marriage and on Kali Mae really suffered marriage and on Kali Mae really suffered a<00:04:41.639> lot<00:04:41.699> from<00:04:41.940> that<00:04:42.060> and<00:04:42.360> she<00:04:42.540> grew<00:04:42.840> up

a lot from that and she grew up a lot from that and she grew up apparently<00:04:43.380> bitter<00:04:43.800> and<00:04:44.460> became<00:04:44.880> a<00:04:45.000> bitter apparently bitter and became a bitter apparently bitter and became a bitter ruling<00:04:45.840> Monarch<00:04:46.500> the<00:04:47.280> first<00:04:47.520> queen<00:04:47.880> and<00:04:48.840> also ruling Monarch the first queen and also

ruling Monarch the first queen and also a<00:04:49.259> bitter<00:04:49.620> Queen a bitter Queen a bitter Queen she<00:04:51.540> but<00:04:51.780> we<00:04:51.960> learned<00:04:52.139> she<00:04:52.320> has<00:04:52.440> neglected<00:04:52.919> the she but we learned she has neglected the

she but we learned she has neglected the policies<00:04:53.460> of<00:04:53.639> her<00:04:53.820> father<00:04:54.000> with<00:04:54.240> respect<00:04:54.540> to policies of her father with respect to policies of her father with respect to Middle<00:04:54.840> Earth Middle Earth

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isolationist stance because you know it says<00:05:00.600> that<00:05:00.720> basically<00:05:01.020> what<00:05:01.259> what<00:05:01.440> it<00:05:01.620> means says that basically what what it means says that basically what what it means by<00:05:01.919> that<00:05:02.100> is<00:05:02.280> that<00:05:02.580> she<00:05:03.300> turned<00:05:03.660> her<00:05:03.720> back<00:05:03.900> on

by that is that she turned her back on by that is that she turned her back on this<00:05:04.500> alliance<00:05:04.979> with<00:05:05.220> gilgallad<00:05:05.940> and<00:05:06.120> the this alliance with gilgallad and the this alliance with gilgallad and the elves<00:05:06.479> have<00:05:06.600> leaned<00:05:07.020> on<00:05:07.160> and<00:05:08.160> really<00:05:08.400> didn't elves have leaned on and really didn't

elves have leaned on and really didn't respect<00:05:09.060> it<00:05:09.240> didn't<00:05:09.600> attend<00:05:10.020> to<00:05:10.139> it respect it didn't attend to it respect it didn't attend to it and and and um<00:05:13.020> but<00:05:13.199> really<00:05:13.380> it's<00:05:13.680> not<00:05:13.860> isolationist<00:05:14.699> it's um but really it's not isolationist it's

um but really it's not isolationist it's not<00:05:15.120> so<00:05:15.300> much<00:05:15.419> isolationist<00:05:16.080> as<00:05:16.320> it<00:05:16.500> is not so much isolationist as it is not so much isolationist as it is unilateral<00:05:17.160> because<00:05:17.340> we<00:05:17.580> learned<00:05:17.820> that unilateral because we learned that

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the new minorians began to make permanent<00:05:21.660> Havens<00:05:22.139> in<00:05:22.440> Middle<00:05:22.620> Earth<00:05:22.860> so<00:05:23.280> they permanent Havens in Middle Earth so they permanent Havens in Middle Earth so they made<00:05:23.759> their<00:05:24.300> own<00:05:24.479> permanent<00:05:25.259> Havens<00:05:25.740> in made their own permanent Havens in

made their own permanent Havens in different<00:05:26.220> parts<00:05:26.580> of<00:05:27.060> Middle<00:05:27.360> Earth different parts of Middle Earth different parts of Middle Earth so<00:05:28.919> that's<00:05:29.160> not<00:05:29.340> necessarily<00:05:29.639> the<00:05:29.820> same<00:05:29.940> thing so that's not necessarily the same thing

so that's not necessarily the same thing as<00:05:30.240> isolationism<00:05:30.900> that's<00:05:31.680> more<00:05:31.979> like<00:05:32.220> Hey as isolationism that's more like Hey as isolationism that's more like Hey we're<00:05:32.940> not<00:05:33.120> going<00:05:33.240> to<00:05:33.360> work<00:05:33.419> in<00:05:33.600> these we're not going to work in these

we're not going to work in these alliances<00:05:34.139> we're<00:05:34.440> going<00:05:34.560> to<00:05:34.620> do<00:05:34.740> kind<00:05:34.979> of alliances we're going to do kind of alliances we're going to do kind of we're<00:05:35.220> going<00:05:35.340> to<00:05:35.400> do<00:05:35.580> things<00:05:35.759> essentially<00:05:36.240> our we're going to do things essentially our

we're going to do things essentially our own<00:05:36.660> way<00:05:36.900> we're<00:05:37.259> going<00:05:37.380> to<00:05:37.500> do<00:05:37.620> it<00:05:37.800> you<00:05:38.460> know own way we're going to do it you know own way we're going to do it you know all<00:05:38.940> on<00:05:39.180> our<00:05:39.360> own all on our own all on our own um um

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to when a country you know a country to when a country you know a country were<00:05:46.139> to<00:05:46.320> say<00:05:46.440> like<00:05:46.740> oh<00:05:47.280> we<00:05:47.520> need<00:05:47.699> to<00:05:48.000> uh<00:05:48.840> you were to say like oh we need to uh you

were to say like oh we need to uh you know<00:05:49.080> pursue<00:05:49.440> this<00:05:49.680> foreign<00:05:50.039> policy<00:05:50.460> goal know pursue this foreign policy goal know pursue this foreign policy goal maybe<00:05:51.060> you<00:05:51.660> know<00:05:51.720> we<00:05:51.900> need<00:05:52.080> to<00:05:52.380> uh<00:05:52.979> you<00:05:53.160> know maybe you know we need to uh you know

maybe you know we need to uh you know fight<00:05:53.580> this<00:05:53.820> war<00:05:54.120> and<00:05:54.840> we're<00:05:54.960> going<00:05:55.080> to<00:05:55.199> do<00:05:55.320> it fight this war and we're going to do it fight this war and we're going to do it with<00:05:55.560> by<00:05:55.800> ourselves<00:05:56.220> instead<00:05:56.639> of<00:05:56.699> saying<00:05:57.060> like

with by ourselves instead of saying like with by ourselves instead of saying like well<00:05:57.539> we're<00:05:57.780> going<00:05:57.900> to<00:05:57.900> get<00:05:58.080> this<00:05:58.199> big well we're going to get this big well we're going to get this big Alliance<00:05:58.860> together<00:05:59.039> all<00:05:59.580> right<00:05:59.820> so<00:06:00.120> that Alliance together all right so that

Alliance together all right so that would<00:06:00.780> be<00:06:00.900> multilateralism<00:06:01.740> so<00:06:02.100> unilateral would be multilateralism so unilateral would be multilateralism so unilateral foreign<00:06:03.360> policy<00:06:03.720> that's<00:06:03.840> really<00:06:04.080> what foreign policy that's really what

foreign policy that's really what numenor<00:06:04.800> seems<00:06:05.340> to<00:06:05.400> be<00:06:05.520> pursuing<00:06:06.060> at<00:06:06.240> this numenor seems to be pursuing at this numenor seems to be pursuing at this point point point you<00:06:07.620> know<00:06:07.680> just<00:06:07.800> the<00:06:07.979> fact<00:06:08.100> that<00:06:08.220> numenor you know just the fact that numenor

you know just the fact that numenor um<00:06:09.479> and<00:06:10.080> I<00:06:10.199> think<00:06:10.740> let<00:06:11.100> me<00:06:11.220> say<00:06:11.340> this<00:06:11.520> I<00:06:11.699> think um and I think let me say this I think

um and I think let me say this I think this<00:06:12.060> is<00:06:12.180> a<00:06:12.360> you<00:06:12.600> know<00:06:12.720> this<00:06:12.900> is<00:06:13.020> a<00:06:13.320> portent<00:06:13.740> of this is a you know this is a portent of this is a you know this is a portent of bad<00:06:14.280> things<00:06:14.460> to<00:06:14.699> come<00:06:14.880> because<00:06:15.780> at<00:06:16.740> least

bad things to come because at least bad things to come because at least before<00:06:17.220> when<00:06:17.820> they<00:06:17.880> were<00:06:18.000> getting<00:06:18.120> involved before when they were getting involved before when they were getting involved in<00:06:18.660> Middle<00:06:18.780> Earth<00:06:19.020> again in Middle Earth again

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Middle Earth it was to essentially use Middle Earth it was to essentially use their<00:06:26.580> position<00:06:26.819> in<00:06:27.479> the<00:06:27.660> world<00:06:27.900> being<00:06:28.800> this their position in the world being this their position in the world being this really<00:06:29.539> uh<00:06:30.539> island<00:06:30.780> nation<00:06:31.319> that<00:06:31.680> wasn't really uh island nation that wasn't

really uh island nation that wasn't under<00:06:32.100> threat<00:06:32.520> from<00:06:32.699> anyone<00:06:33.060> else<00:06:33.300> uh<00:06:34.080> in<00:06:34.259> any under threat from anyone else uh in any under threat from anyone else uh in any kind<00:06:34.919> of<00:06:35.039> direct<00:06:35.160> fashion<00:06:35.780> it<00:06:36.780> was<00:06:36.900> saying kind of direct fashion it was saying

kind of direct fashion it was saying like<00:06:37.319> hey<00:06:37.500> maybe<00:06:37.740> we<00:06:38.039> should<00:06:38.280> use<00:06:38.720> uh<00:06:39.720> you<00:06:39.900> know like hey maybe we should use uh you know

like hey maybe we should use uh you know we<00:06:40.380> maybe<00:06:40.680> we<00:06:40.860> should<00:06:40.979> help<00:06:41.160> the<00:06:41.340> others<00:06:41.639> right we maybe we should help the others right we maybe we should help the others right maybe<00:06:41.940> we<00:06:42.180> shouldn't<00:06:42.419> just<00:06:42.539> kind<00:06:42.660> of<00:06:42.780> keep<00:06:42.900> to

maybe we shouldn't just kind of keep to maybe we shouldn't just kind of keep to ourselves<00:06:43.440> all<00:06:43.620> the<00:06:43.680> time<00:06:43.800> but<00:06:43.919> maybe<00:06:44.100> we ourselves all the time but maybe we

ourselves all the time but maybe we should<00:06:44.340> go<00:06:44.580> out<00:06:44.699> of<00:06:44.819> our<00:06:44.880> way<00:06:45.120> to<00:06:45.419> help<00:06:45.479> the should go out of our way to help the should go out of our way to help the others<00:06:45.960> you<00:06:46.319> know<00:06:46.380> we<00:06:46.620> can<00:06:46.740> debate<00:06:46.979> whether

others you know we can debate whether others you know we can debate whether that<00:06:47.340> was<00:06:47.520> a<00:06:47.580> good<00:06:47.699> idea<00:06:47.940> or<00:06:48.060> not<00:06:48.300> but that was a good idea or not but that was a good idea or not but you<00:06:49.919> know<00:06:50.039> we<00:06:50.460> know<00:06:50.639> that<00:06:51.000> something<00:06:51.479> is<00:06:51.780> going

you know we know that something is going you know we know that something is going on<00:06:52.139> that's<00:06:52.380> bad<00:06:52.620> in<00:06:52.740> Middle<00:06:52.919> Earth<00:06:53.160> and<00:06:53.880> we on that's bad in Middle Earth and we

on that's bad in Middle Earth and we know<00:06:54.180> that<00:06:54.960> um<00:06:54.960> if<00:06:55.199> we<00:06:55.319> go<00:06:55.500> back<00:06:55.620> to<00:06:55.800> Tarman know that um if we go back to Tarman know that um if we go back to Tarman Eldor<00:06:56.580> he<00:06:57.120> resigned<00:06:57.660> earlier<00:06:58.500> than<00:06:58.740> he<00:06:59.160> was

Eldor he resigned earlier than he was Eldor he resigned earlier than he was planning<00:06:59.699> to<00:06:59.819> because<00:07:00.240> he<00:07:01.199> knew<00:07:01.440> his<00:07:01.740> son<00:07:01.919> tar planning to because he knew his son tar planning to because he knew his son tar he<00:07:02.580> knew<00:07:02.880> his<00:07:03.000> son<00:07:03.120> aldarayan<00:07:03.780> who<00:07:03.900> became

he knew his son aldarayan who became he knew his son aldarayan who became Taral<00:07:04.500> Darian<00:07:04.919> was<00:07:05.819> more<00:07:06.240> of<00:07:06.419> the<00:07:06.539> mindset<00:07:06.960> and Taral Darian was more of the mindset and

Taral Darian was more of the mindset and more<00:07:07.319> equipped<00:07:07.860> more<00:07:08.639> experience<00:07:09.000> to<00:07:09.240> be<00:07:09.419> able more equipped more experience to be able more equipped more experience to be able to<00:07:09.660> handle<00:07:10.080> whatever<00:07:10.560> this<00:07:10.919> growing<00:07:11.280> threat to handle whatever this growing threat

to handle whatever this growing threat was<00:07:12.060> in<00:07:12.300> Middle<00:07:12.539> Earth was in Middle Earth was in Middle Earth but but but um um um but<00:07:16.680> yeah<00:07:16.919> unfortunately<00:07:17.780> uh<00:07:18.780> unfortunately but yeah unfortunately uh unfortunately

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of like well we'll do our own thing in of like well we'll do our own thing in Middle<00:07:23.759> Earth<00:07:24.000> and<00:07:24.900> we'll<00:07:25.080> establish<00:07:25.500> these Middle Earth and we'll establish these Middle Earth and we'll establish these permanent<00:07:25.979> Havens<00:07:26.460> and<00:07:27.419> what's<00:07:27.720> the<00:07:27.960> point<00:07:28.080> of

permanent Havens and what's the point of permanent Havens and what's the point of those<00:07:28.319> permanent<00:07:28.680> Havens<00:07:29.099> well<00:07:29.400> could<00:07:30.060> it<00:07:30.240> be those permanent Havens well could it be those permanent Havens well could it be anything<00:07:30.599> but<00:07:31.080> their<00:07:31.500> own<00:07:31.680> the<00:07:31.979> enrichment<00:07:32.340> of

anything but their own the enrichment of anything but their own the enrichment of numenor<00:07:32.940> right<00:07:33.180> the<00:07:33.419> the<00:07:33.539> power<00:07:33.780> of<00:07:33.960> numenor numenor right the the power of numenor numenor right the the power of numenor and<00:07:35.520> you<00:07:35.639> know<00:07:35.699> furthermore<00:07:36.060> they're and you know furthermore they're

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curious statement here no rumor of this portent<00:08:10.860> reached<00:08:11.280> the<00:08:11.400> distant<00:08:11.699> North<00:08:11.960> so<00:08:12.960> I portent reached the distant North so I portent reached the distant North so I was<00:08:13.319> curious<00:08:13.620> about<00:08:13.860> you<00:08:14.340> know<00:08:14.400> the<00:08:14.880> and<00:08:15.360> and was curious about you know the and and

was curious about you know the and and what<00:08:15.780> this<00:08:15.840> is<00:08:15.960> in<00:08:16.080> reference<00:08:16.380> to<00:08:16.500> is<00:08:16.680> the what this is in reference to is the what this is in reference to is the coming<00:08:16.919> of<00:08:17.099> the<00:08:17.160> numenoreans<00:08:17.699> in<00:08:17.880> the<00:08:17.940> year coming of the numenoreans in the year

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distance north so I was like well who are<00:08:29.520> we<00:08:29.639> talking<00:08:29.759> about<00:08:30.000> in<00:08:30.240> the<00:08:30.360> distance are we talking about in the distance are we talking about in the distance north<00:08:30.780> so<00:08:30.960> I<00:08:31.080> looked<00:08:31.319> up<00:08:31.319> this<00:08:31.560> reference<00:08:31.919> in north so I looked up this reference in

north so I looked up this reference in volume<00:08:32.640> 12<00:08:32.940> of<00:08:33.180> the<00:08:33.300> P<00:08:33.419> of<00:08:33.719> the<00:08:33.779> history<00:08:33.839> of volume 12 of the P of the history of volume 12 of the P of the history of Middle<00:08:34.200> Earth<00:08:34.320> the<00:08:34.560> people's<00:08:34.800> of<00:08:34.919> Middle Middle Earth the people's of Middle

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north has to do with the source of this north has to do with the source of this passage<00:08:39.060> the<00:08:39.659> chapter<00:08:39.839> titled<00:08:40.200> of<00:08:40.380> dwarves passage the chapter titled of dwarves passage the chapter titled of dwarves and<00:08:40.860> Men<00:08:40.979> which<00:08:41.219> goes<00:08:41.459> into<00:08:41.580> much<00:08:41.820> more<00:08:42.000> detail

and Men which goes into much more detail and Men which goes into much more detail about<00:08:42.479> the<00:08:42.719> long<00:08:42.839> relationship<00:08:43.380> of<00:08:43.860> these<00:08:44.099> two about the long relationship of these two about the long relationship of these two people<00:08:44.399> groups<00:08:45.420> it's<00:08:46.020> kind<00:08:46.260> of<00:08:46.320> insignificant

people groups it's kind of insignificant people groups it's kind of insignificant outside<00:08:47.220> the<00:08:47.519> original<00:08:47.640> context<00:08:48.240> which<00:08:49.019> is outside the original context which is outside the original context which is interesting<00:08:49.620> and<00:08:50.160> it's<00:08:50.399> very<00:08:50.700> worth<00:08:50.940> reading interesting and it's very worth reading

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I'll just say that that reference has a I'll just say that that reference has a specific<00:09:14.220> reference<00:09:14.580> within<00:09:15.000> the<00:09:15.120> chapter specific reference within the chapter specific reference within the chapter that<00:09:16.500> you<00:09:16.620> might<00:09:16.740> find<00:09:16.920> interesting<00:09:17.279> if<00:09:17.459> you that you might find interesting if you

that you might find interesting if you want<00:09:17.700> to<00:09:17.760> look<00:09:17.880> it<00:09:18.000> up want to look it up want to look it up so<00:09:19.380> that's<00:09:19.500> why<00:09:19.680> it<00:09:19.860> says<00:09:20.040> the<00:09:20.220> no<00:09:20.459> none<00:09:21.060> of so that's why it says the no none of

so that's why it says the no none of this<00:09:21.240> news<00:09:21.360> reached<00:09:21.779> the<00:09:21.899> distant<00:09:22.140> North<00:09:22.320> and this news reached the distant North and this news reached the distant North and it<00:09:22.680> kind<00:09:22.800> of<00:09:22.860> seems<00:09:23.100> out<00:09:23.220> of<00:09:23.399> place<00:09:23.580> right<00:09:23.940> here

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Sauron has a presents himself in this Sauron has a presents himself in this kind<00:09:30.839> of<00:09:31.019> uh<00:09:31.920> Fair<00:09:32.160> form<00:09:32.459> and<00:09:32.760> he<00:09:32.940> endeavored kind of uh Fair form and he endeavored

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the Eldar are still really the most the Eldar are still really the most powerful<00:09:49.920> of<00:09:50.399> all<00:09:50.700> of<00:09:50.940> the<00:09:51.180> peoples<00:09:51.540> even powerful of all of the peoples even powerful of all of the peoples even though<00:09:52.260> they<00:09:52.440> maybe<00:09:52.620> are<00:09:52.800> a<00:09:52.980> little<00:09:53.040> bit though they maybe are a little bit

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to resist him right and by the time they would<00:10:17.220> realize<00:10:17.519> they<00:10:17.700> need<00:10:17.820> to<00:10:17.940> resist<00:10:18.240> him<00:10:18.420> it would realize they need to resist him it would realize they need to resist him it would<00:10:19.019> almost<00:10:19.200> be<00:10:19.440> too<00:10:19.620> late would almost be too late

would almost be too late and<00:10:22.200> slowly<00:10:22.560> he<00:10:22.740> reverted<00:10:23.160> again<00:10:23.339> to<00:10:23.580> the and slowly he reverted again to the and slowly he reverted again to the allegiance<00:10:24.060> of<00:10:24.180> morgoth<00:10:24.720> and<00:10:24.779> I<00:10:24.899> found<00:10:25.019> this allegiance of morgoth and I found this

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was is this indicating that Sauron was truly<00:10:29.399> repentant<00:10:29.880> at<00:10:30.060> first<00:10:30.180> you<00:10:30.420> know<00:10:30.480> there truly repentant at first you know there truly repentant at first you know there is<00:10:30.839> some<00:10:31.080> discussion<00:10:31.560> about<00:10:31.740> that<00:10:32.100> at<00:10:32.580> the is some discussion about that at the

is some discussion about that at the beginning<00:10:32.760> of<00:10:33.000> the<00:10:33.120> second<00:10:33.240> age<00:10:33.540> you<00:10:34.200> know<00:10:34.260> if beginning of the second age you know if beginning of the second age you know if we<00:10:34.860> read<00:10:35.040> out<00:10:35.220> calabath<00:10:35.700> I<00:10:35.940> believe<00:10:36.000> it<00:10:36.180> makes

we read out calabath I believe it makes we read out calabath I believe it makes reference<00:10:36.779> to<00:10:36.959> that<00:10:37.860> possibility<00:10:38.279> that<00:10:38.640> some reference to that possibility that some reference to that possibility that some held<00:10:39.180> that<00:10:39.360> he<00:10:39.480> was<00:10:39.660> truly<00:10:40.019> repentant<00:10:40.500> at held that he was truly repentant at

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needed to take you<00:10:45.180> know<00:10:45.240> I<00:10:45.360> believe<00:10:45.480> we<00:10:45.720> covered<00:10:46.019> that<00:10:46.140> in<00:10:46.560> uh you know I believe we covered that in uh you know I believe we covered that in uh several<00:10:47.100> episodes<00:10:47.279> ago<00:10:47.760> but<00:10:48.480> he<00:10:48.600> didn't<00:10:48.779> take

several episodes ago but he didn't take several episodes ago but he didn't take the<00:10:49.140> action<00:10:49.380> of<00:10:49.680> actually<00:10:49.860> going<00:10:50.279> back<00:10:50.700> to the action of actually going back to the action of actually going back to um back<00:10:52.680> to<00:10:52.860> Amman<00:10:53.339> right<00:10:53.640> back<00:10:53.880> to<00:10:54.000> the

um back to Amman right back to the um back to Amman right back to the Blessed<00:10:54.480> realm<00:10:54.779> and<00:10:55.440> kind<00:10:55.620> of<00:10:55.740> seeking<00:10:56.279> the Blessed realm and kind of seeking the Blessed realm and kind of seeking the pardon<00:10:57.600> of<00:10:57.779> the<00:10:57.899> Valar<00:10:58.700> instead<00:10:59.700> he<00:10:59.880> stayed

pardon of the Valar instead he stayed pardon of the Valar instead he stayed here<00:11:00.480> in<00:11:00.779> Middle<00:11:01.019> Earth<00:11:01.339> and<00:11:02.339> he<00:11:02.579> lingered<00:11:03.060> and here in Middle Earth and he lingered and here in Middle Earth and he lingered and eventually<00:11:03.839> he<00:11:04.140> got<00:11:04.380> back<00:11:04.500> to<00:11:04.740> his<00:11:05.040> own

eventually he got back to his own eventually he got back to his own designs designs designs um<00:11:06.839> but<00:11:07.820> uh<00:11:08.820> you<00:11:09.000> know<00:11:09.060> it<00:11:09.300> also<00:11:09.480> says<00:11:09.720> he um but uh you know it also says he um but uh you know it also says he reverted<00:11:10.320> again<00:11:10.500> to<00:11:10.680> the<00:11:10.860> allegiance<00:11:11.279> of

reverted again to the allegiance of reverted again to the allegiance of morgoth<00:11:11.940> so<00:11:12.180> in<00:11:12.480> a<00:11:12.660> way<00:11:12.779> Sauron<00:11:13.200> is<00:11:13.440> not<00:11:13.620> simply morgoth so in a way Sauron is not simply

morgoth so in a way Sauron is not simply acting<00:11:14.339> on<00:11:14.579> his<00:11:14.700> own<00:11:14.880> in<00:11:15.120> the<00:11:15.300> second<00:11:15.420> age<00:11:15.740> he acting on his own in the second age he acting on his own in the second age he does<00:11:16.920> see<00:11:17.160> himself<00:11:17.640> as<00:11:18.600> being<00:11:18.959> an<00:11:19.320> ally<00:11:19.560> of

does see himself as being an ally of does see himself as being an ally of morgoth<00:11:20.220> who<00:11:20.339> you<00:11:20.519> know<00:11:20.579> we<00:11:20.760> might<00:11:20.880> think<00:11:21.060> how morgoth who you know we might think how

morgoth who you know we might think how is<00:11:21.420> morgoth<00:11:21.899> even<00:11:22.019> at<00:11:22.260> work<00:11:22.380> in<00:11:22.560> the<00:11:22.680> world is morgoth even at work in the world is morgoth even at work in the world interesting<00:11:24.839> things<00:11:25.140> will<00:11:25.440> happen<00:11:25.620> later<00:11:25.980> in interesting things will happen later in

interesting things will happen later in the<00:11:26.339> history<00:11:26.459> of<00:11:26.760> the<00:11:26.880> second<00:11:27.000> age<00:11:27.300> that<00:11:27.540> might the history of the second age that might the history of the second age that might indicate<00:11:28.260> to<00:11:28.440> us<00:11:28.560> that<00:11:28.860> though<00:11:29.279> morgoth<00:11:29.880> is

indicate to us that though morgoth is indicate to us that though morgoth is not<00:11:30.180> present<00:11:30.480> in<00:11:30.660> the<00:11:30.779> world<00:11:30.899> in<00:11:31.079> any<00:11:31.260> kind<00:11:31.440> of not present in the world in any kind of

not present in the world in any kind of bodily<00:11:31.980> fashion<00:11:32.339> in<00:11:32.940> any<00:11:33.120> kind<00:11:33.300> of<00:11:33.360> visible bodily fashion in any kind of visible bodily fashion in any kind of visible fashion<00:11:34.279> uh<00:11:35.279> he<00:11:35.700> is<00:11:36.200> still<00:11:37.200> an<00:11:37.440> actor<00:11:37.800> and<00:11:37.980> he

fashion uh he is still an actor and he fashion uh he is still an actor and he is<00:11:38.279> still<00:11:38.459> someone<00:11:38.700> that<00:11:39.060> Sauron<00:11:39.480> looks<00:11:39.899> to is still someone that Sauron looks to

is still someone that Sauron looks to uh<00:11:41.399> remember<00:11:41.519> more<00:11:41.940> goth<00:11:42.300> in<00:11:42.420> the<00:11:42.540> end<00:11:42.660> is<00:11:43.380> a uh remember more goth in the end is a uh remember more goth in the end is a spirit<00:11:43.740> right<00:11:44.160> he<00:11:44.399> is<00:11:44.579> a<00:11:44.760> spirit<00:11:45.019> that<00:11:46.019> embody

spirit right he is a spirit that embody spirit right he is a spirit that embody that<00:11:46.800> becomes<00:11:47.100> embodied<00:11:47.519> for<00:11:47.820> the<00:11:48.000> better that becomes embodied for the better that becomes embodied for the better part<00:11:48.420> of<00:11:49.019> the<00:11:49.380> early<00:11:49.620> history<00:11:49.920> of<00:11:50.279> Middle part of the early history of Middle

part of the early history of Middle Earth<00:11:51.079> but<00:11:52.079> at<00:11:53.040> this<00:11:53.220> point<00:11:53.339> he<00:11:53.640> is<00:11:53.820> banished Earth but at this point he is banished Earth but at this point he is banished beyond<00:11:54.899> the<00:11:55.680> walls<00:11:56.339> of<00:11:56.459> the<00:11:56.579> world<00:11:56.760> right beyond the walls of the world right

beyond the walls of the world right so<00:11:58.920> it's<00:11:59.220> possible<00:11:59.579> that<00:11:59.940> Sauron<00:12:00.300> was<00:12:00.540> truly so it's possible that Sauron was truly so it's possible that Sauron was truly repentant<00:12:01.140> at<00:12:01.320> first<00:12:01.440> but<00:12:01.680> he<00:12:01.920> is<00:12:02.160> uh repentant at first but he is uh

repentant at first but he is uh eventually<00:12:03.120> reverts<00:12:03.720> back<00:12:03.839> to<00:12:04.200> the eventually reverts back to the eventually reverts back to the allegiance<00:12:04.980> of<00:12:05.160> morgoth allegiance of morgoth allegiance of morgoth um<00:12:07.459> men<00:12:08.459> apparently<00:12:09.120> are<00:12:09.360> the<00:12:09.600> easiest<00:12:09.899> of

um men apparently are the easiest of um men apparently are the easiest of peoples<00:12:11.339> for<00:12:11.640> Sauron<00:12:12.120> to<00:12:12.360> sway<00:12:12.600> now<00:12:13.380> why<00:12:13.620> is peoples for Sauron to sway now why is

peoples for Sauron to sway now why is that<00:12:13.980> why<00:12:14.399> would<00:12:14.640> men<00:12:14.820> be<00:12:15.120> the<00:12:15.300> easiest<00:12:15.600> for that why would men be the easiest for that why would men be the easiest for Sauron<00:12:16.380> to<00:12:16.620> sway<00:12:16.800> well<00:12:17.700> I<00:12:18.060> think<00:12:18.260> we<00:12:19.260> can<00:12:19.500> you

Sauron to sway well I think we can you Sauron to sway well I think we can you know<00:12:20.279> simply<00:12:21.240> kind<00:12:21.660> of<00:12:21.720> get<00:12:21.899> to<00:12:22.079> the<00:12:22.260> idea<00:12:22.560> that know simply kind of get to the idea that

know simply kind of get to the idea that men<00:12:23.459> because<00:12:24.120> of<00:12:24.420> their<00:12:24.600> short<00:12:24.779> lifespan<00:12:25.380> with men because of their short lifespan with men because of their short lifespan with comparison<00:12:26.160> to<00:12:26.459> the<00:12:26.640> Eldar<00:12:27.120> and<00:12:27.660> to<00:12:27.779> the comparison to the Eldar and to the

comparison to the Eldar and to the dwarves dwarves dwarves um<00:12:29.880> men<00:12:30.540> are<00:12:30.779> the<00:12:30.899> most<00:12:31.019> willing<00:12:31.440> to<00:12:31.680> make um men are the most willing to make um men are the most willing to make deals<00:12:32.339> right<00:12:32.760> to<00:12:33.120> kind<00:12:33.480> of<00:12:33.600> make<00:12:33.720> the<00:12:33.839> deal

deals right to kind of make the deal deals right to kind of make the deal with<00:12:34.200> the<00:12:34.380> devil with the devil with the devil um<00:12:35.880> because<00:12:36.360> they<00:12:36.720> know<00:12:36.839> that<00:12:37.079> their<00:12:37.260> days<00:12:37.440> are um because they know that their days are

um because they know that their days are numbered<00:12:37.920> they<00:12:38.100> know<00:12:38.220> that<00:12:38.339> their<00:12:38.459> days<00:12:38.640> are numbered they know that their days are numbered they know that their days are Swift<00:12:39.240> are<00:12:39.540> coming<00:12:39.720> to<00:12:39.899> an<00:12:40.019> end<00:12:40.200> quickly Swift are coming to an end quickly

Swift are coming to an end quickly and<00:12:42.480> you<00:12:43.019> know<00:12:43.079> it's<00:12:43.200> interesting<00:12:43.560> when<00:12:43.740> we and you know it's interesting when we and you know it's interesting when we think<00:12:44.040> about<00:12:44.160> that<00:12:44.459> context<00:12:44.760> because<00:12:45.060> in<00:12:45.300> a think about that context because in a

think about that context because in a way<00:12:45.600> the<00:12:45.899> gift<00:12:46.079> of<00:12:46.260> long<00:12:46.440> life<00:12:46.680> that<00:12:46.920> was<00:12:47.100> given way the gift of long life that was given

way the gift of long life that was given to<00:12:47.399> the<00:12:47.519> numenoreans<00:12:48.120> we<00:12:48.720> may<00:12:48.899> be<00:12:49.019> able<00:12:49.139> to<00:12:49.260> see to the numenoreans we may be able to see

to the numenoreans we may be able to see that<00:12:49.620> as<00:12:49.860> a<00:12:50.040> way<00:12:50.100> to<00:12:50.279> make<00:12:50.459> them<00:12:50.639> strong<00:12:50.940> to that as a way to make them strong to that as a way to make them strong to resist<00:12:51.660> the<00:12:51.959> Temptations<00:12:52.440> of<00:12:53.040> evil<00:12:53.459> right resist the Temptations of evil right

resist the Temptations of evil right um but<00:12:56.220> especially<00:12:56.880> for<00:12:57.120> the<00:12:57.240> men<00:12:57.420> that um but especially for the men that um but especially for the men that remained<00:12:58.019> in<00:12:58.139> Middle<00:12:58.260> Earth<00:12:58.500> who<00:12:58.800> do<00:12:58.980> not<00:12:59.100> have remained in Middle Earth who do not have

remained in Middle Earth who do not have the<00:12:59.459> longer<00:12:59.880> life<00:13:00.420> spans<00:13:00.860> it's<00:13:01.860> easier<00:13:02.660> to the longer life spans it's easier to the longer life spans it's easier to sway<00:13:04.019> them<00:13:04.320> to<00:13:04.680> the<00:13:04.920> Deeds<00:13:05.160> of<00:13:05.339> Darkness<00:13:05.700> to sway them to the Deeds of Darkness to

sway them to the Deeds of Darkness to doing<00:13:06.600> the<00:13:06.899> Deeds<00:13:07.200> of<00:13:07.320> evil<00:13:07.560> because<00:13:08.279> you<00:13:08.820> can doing the Deeds of evil because you can doing the Deeds of evil because you can say<00:13:09.240> what<00:13:10.019> if<00:13:10.200> I<00:13:10.320> reward<00:13:10.620> you<00:13:10.800> with<00:13:10.980> long<00:13:11.220> life

say what if I reward you with long life say what if I reward you with long life right<00:13:11.940> what<00:13:12.240> if<00:13:12.420> I<00:13:12.540> what<00:13:12.779> if<00:13:12.959> I<00:13:13.079> reward<00:13:13.440> you right what if I what if I reward you

right what if I what if I reward you what<00:13:14.040> if<00:13:14.220> I<00:13:14.279> make<00:13:14.399> it<00:13:14.519> to<00:13:14.700> the<00:13:14.880> death<00:13:15.180> you<00:13:15.959> can what if I make it to the death you can

what if I make it to the death you can even<00:13:16.200> beat<00:13:16.440> Death<00:13:16.740> you<00:13:17.040> can<00:13:17.100> live<00:13:17.279> forever<00:13:17.639> you even beat Death you can live forever you even beat Death you can live forever you can<00:13:18.060> be<00:13:18.240> immortal<00:13:18.720> like<00:13:18.959> the<00:13:19.139> elves<00:13:19.440> right<00:13:20.480> so

can be immortal like the elves right so can be immortal like the elves right so that's<00:13:22.380> not<00:13:22.560> laid<00:13:22.800> out<00:13:22.920> directly<00:13:23.279> here<00:13:23.519> but that's not laid out directly here but that's not laid out directly here but that's<00:13:24.000> why<00:13:24.480> I<00:13:25.019> would<00:13:25.139> surmise<00:13:25.500> that<00:13:25.740> men<00:13:25.920> are

that's why I would surmise that men are that's why I would surmise that men are the<00:13:26.339> easiest<00:13:26.700> to<00:13:27.060> sway<00:13:27.240> I<00:13:27.540> mean<00:13:27.660> there's<00:13:27.779> all the easiest to sway I mean there's all the easiest to sway I mean there's all kinds<00:13:28.139> of<00:13:28.200> other<00:13:28.320> reasons<00:13:28.620> we<00:13:28.800> can<00:13:28.920> lift

kinds of other reasons we can lift kinds of other reasons we can lift because<00:13:29.279> you<00:13:29.700> know<00:13:29.760> we<00:13:29.880> can<00:13:30.000> list<00:13:30.120> because because you know we can list because because you know we can list because we're<00:13:30.660> all we're all

we're all we're<00:13:32.040> all<00:13:32.279> men<00:13:32.459> who<00:13:32.700> are<00:13:32.880> all<00:13:33.000> of<00:13:33.120> the<00:13:33.240> race<00:13:33.420> of we're all men who are all of the race of we're all men who are all of the race of men<00:13:33.839> so<00:13:34.320> we<00:13:34.500> can<00:13:34.620> understand<00:13:34.800> the<00:13:35.399> different

men so we can understand the different men so we can understand the different kinds<00:13:36.060> of<00:13:36.120> things<00:13:36.360> that<00:13:36.660> we<00:13:36.839> are<00:13:37.100> prone<00:13:38.100> to<00:13:38.660> but kinds of things that we are prone to but

kinds of things that we are prone to but uh<00:13:40.560> you<00:13:40.800> know<00:13:40.860> I<00:13:41.100> would<00:13:41.220> say<00:13:41.339> it<00:13:41.519> all<00:13:41.639> kind<00:13:41.820> of uh you know I would say it all kind of uh you know I would say it all kind of ties<00:13:42.240> back<00:13:42.420> to<00:13:42.660> the<00:13:42.839> shortness<00:13:43.200> of<00:13:43.500> our

ties back to the shortness of our ties back to the shortness of our lifespans lifespans lifespans um um um you<00:13:46.560> know<00:13:46.620> especially<00:13:46.920> when<00:13:47.279> men<00:13:47.519> would<00:13:47.700> look you know especially when men would look

you know especially when men would look out<00:13:48.000> and<00:13:48.180> they'd<00:13:48.420> see<00:13:48.600> like<00:13:48.839> elves<00:13:49.380> and out and they'd see like elves and out and they'd see like elves and dwarves<00:13:49.920> living<00:13:50.339> much<00:13:50.639> longer<00:13:50.940> than<00:13:51.120> them dwarves living much longer than them

dwarves living much longer than them and<00:13:53.040> he<00:13:53.220> labor<00:13:53.519> is<00:13:53.579> hard<00:13:53.760> to<00:13:53.940> persuade<00:13:54.240> the and he labor is hard to persuade the and he labor is hard to persuade the elves<00:13:54.720> meaning<00:13:54.899> Sauron<00:13:55.380> labor<00:13:55.740> is<00:13:55.860> hard<00:13:55.980> to elves meaning Sauron labor is hard to

elves meaning Sauron labor is hard to persuade<00:13:56.459> the<00:13:56.639> elves<00:13:56.940> again<00:13:57.420> I<00:13:57.660> think<00:13:57.779> we persuade the elves again I think we persuade the elves again I think we talked<00:13:58.079> about<00:13:58.200> this<00:13:58.380> already<00:13:58.620> but<00:13:59.100> you<00:13:59.760> know talked about this already but you know

talked about this already but you know the<00:14:00.420> elves<00:14:00.779> they<00:14:01.680> are<00:14:01.860> really<00:14:02.040> the<00:14:02.399> they're the elves they are really the they're the elves they are really the they're they're<00:14:03.000> really<00:14:03.240> still<00:14:03.420> in<00:14:03.600> charge<00:14:03.779> right they're really still in charge right

they're really still in charge right they're<00:14:04.380> still<00:14:04.500> in<00:14:04.620> charge<00:14:04.800> we're<00:14:05.040> not<00:14:05.160> quite they're still in charge we're not quite they're still in charge we're not quite to<00:14:05.459> the<00:14:05.639> to<00:14:05.880> the<00:14:06.180> time<00:14:06.360> when<00:14:06.660> men<00:14:06.959> are<00:14:07.620> truly<00:14:08.120> uh

to the to the time when men are truly uh to the to the time when men are truly uh you<00:14:09.300> know<00:14:09.360> it's<00:14:09.480> truly<00:14:09.839> the<00:14:09.959> age<00:14:10.139> of<00:14:10.320> men<00:14:10.560> just you know it's truly the age of men just

you know it's truly the age of men just yet<00:14:11.040> except<00:14:11.639> for<00:14:11.820> a<00:14:12.000> numenor<00:14:12.420> numenor<00:14:12.899> is<00:14:13.019> kind yet except for a numenor numenor is kind yet except for a numenor numenor is kind of<00:14:13.200> this<00:14:13.380> one<00:14:13.560> little<00:14:13.740> exception of this one little exception

of this one little exception but<00:14:15.180> the<00:14:15.240> elves<00:14:15.540> are<00:14:15.660> really<00:14:15.779> the<00:14:15.959> ones<00:14:16.139> who but the elves are really the ones who but the elves are really the ones who still<00:14:16.500> hold<00:14:16.680> the<00:14:16.860> power<00:14:17.040> you<00:14:17.339> know<00:14:17.399> they<00:14:17.579> don't

still hold the power you know they don't still hold the power you know they don't they<00:14:18.240> don't<00:14:18.420> really<00:14:18.720> wield<00:14:19.139> it<00:14:19.440> like<00:14:19.560> we<00:14:19.740> might they don't really wield it like we might

they don't really wield it like we might think<00:14:20.040> of<00:14:20.220> you<00:14:20.519> know<00:14:20.579> in<00:14:20.700> these<00:14:20.880> terms<00:14:21.120> of think of you know in these terms of think of you know in these terms of these<00:14:21.360> great<00:14:21.480> Empires<00:14:21.959> but<00:14:22.260> they<00:14:22.740> have<00:14:22.860> these these great Empires but they have these

these great Empires but they have these little<00:14:23.399> you<00:14:23.820> know<00:14:23.880> havens<00:14:24.360> of<00:14:24.540> Elvish little you know havens of Elvish little you know havens of Elvish civilization civilization civilization um<00:14:26.760> that<00:14:27.240> are<00:14:27.720> you<00:14:28.079> know<00:14:28.139> really<00:14:28.320> the<00:14:28.620> the um that are you know really the the

um that are you know really the the great<00:14:29.519> locations<00:14:30.480> the<00:14:30.779> great<00:14:31.019> uh<00:14:31.680> little great locations the great uh little great locations the great uh little kingdoms<00:14:32.399> of kingdoms of kingdoms of um<00:14:33.899> of<00:14:34.380> goodness<00:14:34.740> of<00:14:35.519> freedom<00:14:36.060> of<00:14:36.360> power<00:14:36.660> of

um of goodness of freedom of power of um of goodness of freedom of power of civilization<00:14:37.500> in<00:14:37.980> this<00:14:38.160> time<00:14:38.339> and<00:14:38.880> so<00:14:39.060> he civilization in this time and so he

civilization in this time and so he wants<00:14:39.480> to<00:14:39.600> get<00:14:39.779> the<00:14:39.959> the<00:14:40.139> elves<00:14:40.500> on<00:14:40.680> his<00:14:40.860> side wants to get the the elves on his side

wants to get the the elves on his side again<00:14:41.339> because<00:14:41.940> if<00:14:42.120> he<00:14:42.300> can<00:14:42.420> get<00:14:42.540> them<00:14:42.720> on<00:14:42.899> his again because if he can get them on his again because if he can get them on his side<00:14:43.260> then<00:14:43.740> he<00:14:43.920> can<00:14:43.980> do<00:14:44.160> whatever<00:14:44.279> he<00:14:44.639> wants

side then he can do whatever he wants side then he can do whatever he wants right<00:14:45.240> he<00:14:45.480> can<00:14:45.600> eventually<00:14:45.959> do<00:14:46.199> whatever<00:14:46.380> he right he can eventually do whatever he right he can eventually do whatever he wants

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interesting that his Hue sauron's Hue was<00:14:54.839> still<00:14:55.019> that<00:14:55.199> of<00:14:55.380> one<00:14:55.560> both<00:14:55.860> fair<00:14:56.100> and<00:14:56.339> wise was still that of one both fair and wise

was still that of one both fair and wise so<00:14:57.480> Sauron<00:14:58.019> does<00:14:58.320> not<00:14:58.500> appear<00:14:58.800> as<00:14:59.100> he<00:14:59.279> does<00:14:59.459> in so Sauron does not appear as he does in

so Sauron does not appear as he does in the<00:15:00.240> uh<00:15:00.779> you<00:15:01.019> know<00:15:01.079> films<00:15:01.440> as<00:15:01.620> the<00:15:01.860> dark<00:15:02.100> lord the uh you know films as the dark lord

the uh you know films as the dark lord right<00:15:02.699> you<00:15:02.940> know<00:15:03.000> like<00:15:03.180> kind<00:15:03.300> of<00:15:03.420> how<00:15:03.540> we<00:15:03.720> might right you know like kind of how we might right you know like kind of how we might think<00:15:04.019> of<00:15:04.139> like<00:15:04.380> this<00:15:04.500> like<00:15:04.680> sort<00:15:04.920> of<00:15:05.040> like

think of like this like sort of like think of like this like sort of like very<00:15:05.940> frightening<00:15:06.420> demonic<00:15:06.959> presence<00:15:07.380> uh<00:15:08.100> but very frightening demonic presence uh but very frightening demonic presence uh but he<00:15:08.459> appears<00:15:08.940> both<00:15:09.120> fair<00:15:09.420> and<00:15:09.720> wise he appears both fair and wise

he appears both fair and wise you<00:15:11.579> know<00:15:11.760> uh<00:15:12.720> Christopher<00:15:13.199> Tolkien<00:15:13.680> it you know uh Christopher Tolkien it you know uh Christopher Tolkien it actually<00:15:13.920> in<00:15:14.220> the<00:15:14.339> footnote<00:15:14.699> of<00:15:15.060> this<00:15:15.180> it actually in the footnote of this it

actually in the footnote of this it actually<00:15:15.600> says<00:15:15.779> the<00:15:15.899> Christopher<00:15:16.260> Tolkien actually says the Christopher Tolkien actually says the Christopher Tolkien said<00:15:17.279> that<00:15:17.459> in<00:15:17.639> this<00:15:17.760> time<00:15:17.940> he<00:15:18.180> appeared<00:15:18.540> more said that in this time he appeared more

said that in this time he appeared more like<00:15:18.959> the<00:15:19.199> later<00:15:19.320> estari<00:15:19.980> it<00:15:20.100> was<00:15:20.220> almost<00:15:20.339> like like the later estari it was almost like like the later estari it was almost like a<00:15:20.940> you<00:15:21.300> know<00:15:21.420> a<00:15:21.600> foreshadowing<00:15:22.500> of<00:15:22.680> the<00:15:22.740> astari

a you know a foreshadowing of the astari a you know a foreshadowing of the astari which<00:15:23.699> was<00:15:23.820> interesting<00:15:24.120> to<00:15:24.180> me<00:15:24.300> because<00:15:24.420> it which was interesting to me because it

which was interesting to me because it got<00:15:24.720> me<00:15:24.839> thinking<00:15:25.139> about<00:15:25.260> like<00:15:25.560> okay<00:15:25.940> you<00:15:26.940> know got me thinking about like okay you know got me thinking about like okay you know did<00:15:27.600> he<00:15:27.720> appear<00:15:27.959> then<00:15:28.199> more<00:15:28.620> like<00:15:28.860> you<00:15:29.220> know

did he appear then more like you know did he appear then more like you know kind<00:15:29.519> of<00:15:29.639> a<00:15:30.300> you<00:15:30.720> know<00:15:30.839> a<00:15:31.079> beautiful<00:15:31.199> old<00:15:31.620> man kind of a you know a beautiful old man

kind of a you know a beautiful old man right<00:15:32.160> so<00:15:32.459> you<00:15:32.699> know<00:15:32.760> kind<00:15:32.880> of<00:15:33.000> like<00:15:33.120> the right so you know kind of like the right so you know kind of like the beauty<00:15:33.420> of<00:15:33.660> wisdom<00:15:34.019> right<00:15:34.320> you<00:15:34.860> know<00:15:34.980> and<00:15:35.459> and

beauty of wisdom right you know and and beauty of wisdom right you know and and I<00:15:35.820> got<00:15:35.940> to<00:15:36.120> thinking<00:15:36.480> about<00:15:36.959> the<00:15:37.320> whole<00:15:37.440> how I got to thinking about the whole how

I got to thinking about the whole how um<00:15:38.639> how<00:15:39.180> he's<00:15:39.360> presented<00:15:39.899> in<00:15:40.380> the<00:15:40.560> rings<00:15:40.740> of um how he's presented in the rings of um how he's presented in the rings of power<00:15:41.100> so<00:15:41.820> spoiler<00:15:42.540> alert<00:15:42.779> pause<00:15:43.019> right<00:15:43.320> there power so spoiler alert pause right there

power so spoiler alert pause right there if<00:15:45.000> you<00:15:45.120> haven't<00:15:45.180> seen<00:15:45.360> the<00:15:45.480> rings<00:15:45.600> of<00:15:45.779> power<00:15:45.899> I if you haven't seen the rings of power I

if you haven't seen the rings of power I don't<00:15:46.139> want<00:15:46.260> to<00:15:46.320> spoil<00:15:46.560> it<00:15:46.680> for<00:15:46.800> you<00:15:46.980> uh<00:15:47.940> but<00:15:48.300> uh don't want to spoil it for you uh but uh

don't want to spoil it for you uh but uh I'm<00:15:49.079> going<00:15:49.260> to<00:15:49.440> talk<00:15:49.560> about<00:15:49.740> the<00:15:50.459> great<00:15:50.820> you I'm going to talk about the great you I'm going to talk about the great you know<00:15:51.240> some<00:15:51.420> of<00:15:51.540> the<00:15:51.600> big<00:15:51.720> revelations<00:15:52.260> in<00:15:52.980> uh

know some of the big revelations in uh know some of the big revelations in uh the<00:15:53.399> first<00:15:53.459> season<00:15:53.699> of<00:15:53.880> the<00:15:54.000> Rings<00:15:54.180> of<00:15:54.420> power the first season of the Rings of power

the first season of the Rings of power so<00:15:55.199> of<00:15:55.320> course<00:15:55.500> the<00:15:56.100> character<00:15:56.279> Hal<00:15:56.579> brand<00:15:57.079> uh so of course the character Hal brand uh so of course the character Hal brand uh halbrand<00:15:58.680> is<00:15:59.040> revealed<00:15:59.459> to<00:15:59.699> be<00:15:59.820> Sauron halbrand is revealed to be Sauron

halbrand is revealed to be Sauron himself himself himself um<00:16:01.980> and<00:16:02.279> Hal<00:16:02.519> brand<00:16:02.820> I<00:16:03.360> don't<00:16:03.480> think<00:16:03.600> he<00:16:03.779> really um and Hal brand I don't think he really

um and Hal brand I don't think he really adds<00:16:04.560> up<00:16:04.680> to<00:16:05.220> uh<00:16:06.120> the<00:16:06.660> presentate<00:16:07.199> to<00:16:07.440> what adds up to uh the presentate to what adds up to uh the presentate to what Christopher<00:16:08.160> says<00:16:08.459> here<00:16:08.579> you<00:16:09.180> know<00:16:09.300> halbrand Christopher says here you know halbrand

Christopher says here you know halbrand looks<00:16:10.139> much<00:16:10.260> more<00:16:10.440> like<00:16:10.680> kind<00:16:11.040> of<00:16:11.160> a<00:16:11.399> a<00:16:11.699> young looks much more like kind of a a young looks much more like kind of a a young version<00:16:12.120> of<00:16:12.360> Aragorn<00:16:12.779> right<00:16:13.079> he<00:16:13.320> looks<00:16:13.500> he

version of Aragorn right he looks he version of Aragorn right he looks he looks<00:16:13.860> like<00:16:14.040> uh<00:16:14.639> you<00:16:14.880> know<00:16:15.000> he<00:16:15.480> looks<00:16:15.720> like<00:16:15.779> he looks like uh you know he looks like he

looks like uh you know he looks like he could<00:16:16.079> just<00:16:16.199> be<00:16:16.440> an<00:16:16.920> ancestor<00:16:17.579> of<00:16:17.760> Aragorn could just be an ancestor of Aragorn could just be an ancestor of Aragorn right right right um um

um uh<00:16:20.880> as<00:16:21.000> as<00:16:21.240> we<00:16:21.420> see<00:16:21.540> Aragorn<00:16:22.079> in<00:16:22.320> the<00:16:22.380> in<00:16:22.620> the uh as as we see Aragorn in the in the uh as as we see Aragorn in the in the films<00:16:23.100> played<00:16:23.579> by<00:16:24.300> um films played by um

films played by um uh<00:16:26.399> played<00:16:26.820> by<00:16:27.120> oh<00:16:27.720> gosh<00:16:28.079> I<00:16:28.260> had<00:16:28.380> it<00:16:28.500> on<00:16:28.560> the<00:16:28.680> tip uh played by oh gosh I had it on the tip

uh played by oh gosh I had it on the tip of<00:16:28.860> my<00:16:28.980> tongue<00:16:29.220> too<00:16:29.339> Viggo<00:16:29.940> Mortensen<00:16:30.360> thank of my tongue too Viggo Mortensen thank of my tongue too Viggo Mortensen thank you<00:16:30.720> you<00:16:30.839> thought<00:16:31.019> I<00:16:31.079> was<00:16:31.199> going<00:16:31.320> to<00:16:31.380> get<00:16:31.500> it

you you thought I was going to get it you you thought I was going to get it wrong<00:16:31.740> you<00:16:32.519> were<00:16:32.639> wrong<00:16:32.820> all<00:16:33.300> right<00:16:33.480> so<00:16:34.260> Viggo wrong you were wrong all right so Viggo

wrong you were wrong all right so Viggo Mortensen<00:16:35.279> he<00:16:35.399> you<00:16:35.519> know<00:16:35.639> he<00:16:35.699> kind<00:16:35.820> of<00:16:35.880> looks Mortensen he you know he kind of looks Mortensen he you know he kind of looks he<00:16:36.180> has<00:16:36.300> that<00:16:36.480> Viggo<00:16:36.720> Mortensen<00:16:37.199> Aragorn<00:16:37.680> kind

he has that Viggo Mortensen Aragorn kind he has that Viggo Mortensen Aragorn kind of<00:16:37.980> Look<00:16:38.100> to<00:16:38.279> Him<00:16:38.399> Hal<00:16:38.579> brand<00:16:38.820> in<00:16:39.120> the<00:16:39.180> Rings of Look to Him Hal brand in the Rings

of Look to Him Hal brand in the Rings and<00:16:39.540> power<00:16:39.720> TV<00:16:40.079> show<00:16:40.259> but<00:16:41.100> in<00:16:41.639> the<00:16:42.000> uh<00:16:42.660> book and power TV show but in the uh book and power TV show but in the uh book here<00:16:43.139> Christopher<00:16:43.980> Tolkien<00:16:44.459> actually<00:16:44.579> said here Christopher Tolkien actually said

here Christopher Tolkien actually said that<00:16:44.880> he<00:16:45.000> appears<00:16:45.360> more<00:16:45.480> like<00:16:45.660> a<00:16:45.899> later<00:16:46.019> estari that he appears more like a later estari that he appears more like a later estari so<00:16:46.800> we<00:16:46.920> might<00:16:47.040> think<00:16:47.160> of<00:16:47.339> like<00:16:47.639> you<00:16:48.240> know

so we might think of like you know so we might think of like you know um<00:16:49.259> maybe<00:16:49.560> and<00:16:50.100> I<00:16:50.459> have<00:16:50.699> a<00:16:50.820> hard<00:16:50.940> time<00:16:51.060> thinking um maybe and I have a hard time thinking um maybe and I have a hard time thinking that<00:16:51.779> that<00:16:52.639> Sauron<00:16:53.639> would<00:16:54.120> guide<00:16:54.360> himself

that that Sauron would guide himself that that Sauron would guide himself like<00:16:55.380> we<00:16:55.740> think<00:16:55.860> of<00:16:56.579> um<00:16:56.639> like<00:16:57.060> we<00:16:57.240> think<00:16:57.360> of like we think of um like we think of like we think of um like we think of Gandalf<00:16:58.019> especially<00:16:58.440> Gandalf<00:16:58.920> the<00:16:58.980> Gray<00:16:59.160> now

Gandalf especially Gandalf the Gray now Gandalf especially Gandalf the Gray now maybe<00:16:59.880> more<00:17:00.120> like<00:17:00.240> Gandalf<00:17:00.779> the<00:17:00.899> White<00:17:01.040> uh maybe more like Gandalf the White uh maybe more like Gandalf the White uh maybe<00:17:02.220> more<00:17:02.519> like<00:17:02.759> uh<00:17:03.120> sauromon<00:17:03.660> like<00:17:03.839> you

maybe more like uh sauromon like you maybe more like uh sauromon like you know<00:17:04.020> with<00:17:04.199> the<00:17:04.380> with<00:17:04.559> the<00:17:04.740> robes<00:17:05.100> the<00:17:05.579> Rope know with the with the robes the Rope

know with the with the robes the Rope the<00:17:06.059> flowing<00:17:06.299> Robes<00:17:06.660> of<00:17:06.839> white<00:17:07.020> and<00:17:07.319> like<00:17:07.559> you the flowing Robes of white and like you the flowing Robes of white and like you know<00:17:07.860> kind<00:17:08.040> of<00:17:08.160> the<00:17:08.400> the<00:17:08.760> well-kept<00:17:09.299> hair<00:17:09.419> and

know kind of the the well-kept hair and know kind of the the well-kept hair and looking<00:17:09.720> kind<00:17:09.900> of<00:17:10.020> very<00:17:10.199> lordly<00:17:10.620> but looking kind of very lordly but looking kind of very lordly but beautiful<00:17:11.160> you<00:17:11.760> know<00:17:11.819> that<00:17:12.000> fairness<00:17:12.720> but beautiful you know that fairness but

beautiful you know that fairness but also<00:17:13.559> he<00:17:13.740> looks<00:17:14.040> perhaps<00:17:14.459> wise<00:17:14.939> right<00:17:15.240> because also he looks perhaps wise right because also he looks perhaps wise right because he's<00:17:15.600> got<00:17:15.839> the<00:17:16.079> the<00:17:16.620> wisdom<00:17:17.220> of<00:17:17.339> age<00:17:17.520> going<00:17:17.880> on

he's got the the wisdom of age going on he's got the the wisdom of age going on so<00:17:19.439> that<00:17:19.799> was<00:17:19.919> that<00:17:20.220> seems<00:17:20.520> to<00:17:20.579> be<00:17:20.760> more<00:17:21.360> what's so that was that seems to be more what's

so that was that seems to be more what's indicated<00:17:22.079> to<00:17:22.380> me<00:17:22.500> you<00:17:22.740> know<00:17:22.860> it's<00:17:22.980> not<00:17:23.160> a<00:17:23.280> lot indicated to me you know it's not a lot

indicated to me you know it's not a lot to<00:17:23.579> go<00:17:23.699> off<00:17:23.880> of<00:17:24.059> but<00:17:24.419> that<00:17:24.900> seems<00:17:25.140> to<00:17:25.260> be<00:17:25.319> more to go off of but that seems to be more

to go off of but that seems to be more like<00:17:25.740> how<00:17:25.980> we<00:17:26.220> should<00:17:26.459> have<00:17:26.819> uh<00:17:27.660> perhaps<00:17:27.959> seen like how we should have uh perhaps seen like how we should have uh perhaps seen uh<00:17:29.400> you<00:17:29.640> know<00:17:29.760> an<00:17:30.059> early<00:17:30.240> Sauron<00:17:30.720> who<00:17:30.960> we

uh you know an early Sauron who we uh you know an early Sauron who we didn't<00:17:31.200> know<00:17:31.380> was<00:17:31.559> Sauron<00:17:32.040> presented<00:17:32.640> in<00:17:33.540> the didn't know was Sauron presented in the didn't know was Sauron presented in the uh<00:17:34.320> in<00:17:34.620> the<00:17:34.740> rings<00:17:34.919> of<00:17:35.100> power uh in the rings of power uh in the rings of power so so

so um<00:17:38.460> yeah<00:17:39.179> I<00:17:39.480> just<00:17:39.600> think<00:17:39.780> that<00:17:40.200> the<00:17:40.500> the um yeah I just think that the the um yeah I just think that the the presenting<00:17:41.340> you<00:17:41.880> know<00:17:42.000> Hall<00:17:42.360> brand<00:17:42.660> as<00:17:43.080> this presenting you know Hall brand as this

presenting you know Hall brand as this uh<00:17:43.799> or<00:17:43.980> you<00:17:44.220> know<00:17:44.400> uh<00:17:45.299> hidden<00:17:45.780> Sauron<00:17:46.260> as<00:17:46.679> this uh or you know uh hidden Sauron as this uh or you know uh hidden Sauron as this like<00:17:47.340> uh<00:17:47.880> you<00:17:48.179> know<00:17:48.299> Viggo<00:17:48.660> Mortensen<00:17:49.020> outer

like uh you know Viggo Mortensen outer like uh you know Viggo Mortensen outer gornish<00:17:49.740> kind<00:17:49.919> of<00:17:50.039> figure<00:17:50.160> was<00:17:50.520> it's<00:17:50.820> not gornish kind of figure was it's not gornish kind of figure was it's not quite<00:17:51.179> what<00:17:51.480> Tolkien<00:17:52.140> and<00:17:52.440> Christopher quite what Tolkien and Christopher

quite what Tolkien and Christopher Tolkien<00:17:53.220> had<00:17:53.340> in<00:17:53.460> mind<00:17:53.640> there Tolkien had in mind there Tolkien had in mind there all<00:17:55.620> right<00:17:55.860> so<00:17:56.280> why<00:17:56.880> were<00:17:57.059> Gil<00:17:57.240> Gallard<00:17:57.660> and all right so why were Gil Gallard and

all right so why were Gil Gallard and elrond<00:17:58.260> wise<00:17:58.799> to<00:17:58.980> him<00:17:59.160> it<00:17:59.520> says<00:17:59.760> they<00:17:59.940> didn't elrond wise to him it says they didn't elrond wise to him it says they didn't actually<00:18:00.419> realize<00:18:00.900> who<00:18:01.200> this<00:18:01.380> was<00:18:01.559> they actually realize who this was they

actually realize who this was they didn't<00:18:01.980> realize<00:18:02.280> he<00:18:02.460> was<00:18:02.580> Sauron<00:18:03.059> but<00:18:03.660> you didn't realize he was Sauron but you didn't realize he was Sauron but you know<00:18:04.080> all<00:18:04.260> I<00:18:04.440> can<00:18:04.559> think<00:18:04.620> is<00:18:04.799> that<00:18:04.980> he<00:18:05.160> was<00:18:05.340> a

know all I can think is that he was a know all I can think is that he was a little<00:18:05.580> too<00:18:05.820> slick<00:18:06.120> right<00:18:06.419> uh<00:18:06.960> gilgalod<00:18:07.679> and little too slick right uh gilgalod and little too slick right uh gilgalod and elrond<00:18:08.160> you<00:18:08.460> know<00:18:08.520> they<00:18:08.700> probably<00:18:08.880> had<00:18:09.120> a

elrond you know they probably had a elrond you know they probably had a decent<00:18:09.539> enough<00:18:09.720> spidey<00:18:10.320> sense<00:18:10.500> about<00:18:10.799> uh<00:18:11.640> the decent enough spidey sense about uh the decent enough spidey sense about uh the Agents<00:18:12.179> of<00:18:12.299> evil<00:18:12.600> and<00:18:13.020> how<00:18:13.260> they<00:18:13.380> like<00:18:13.559> to

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on it fairly quickly uh but they didn't on it fairly quickly uh but they didn't they<00:18:19.200> did<00:18:19.380> not<00:18:19.500> know<00:18:19.679> for<00:18:19.860> sure<00:18:19.980> it<00:18:20.220> was<00:18:20.340> Sauron they did not know for sure it was Sauron

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Elvish Lords they have a way of picking Elvish Lords they have a way of picking up<00:18:32.760> on<00:18:32.880> these<00:18:33.120> things<00:18:33.240> they've<00:18:34.140> been<00:18:34.260> around up on these things they've been around

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works they know how the world Works works they know how the world Works um<00:18:38.400> and<00:18:38.640> some<00:18:38.820> of<00:18:38.940> us<00:18:39.059> can<00:18:39.360> probably um and some of us can probably um and some of us can probably understand<00:18:39.780> there<00:18:40.200> are<00:18:40.320> some<00:18:40.440> of<00:18:40.500> us<00:18:40.620> in<00:18:40.740> the

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the world right the people who are a the world right the people who are a little<00:18:50.400> too<00:18:50.640> uh<00:18:51.320> uh<00:18:52.320> you<00:18:52.679> know<00:18:52.740> a<00:18:53.280> little<00:18:53.400> a little too uh uh you know a little a little too uh uh you know a little a little<00:18:54.360> too<00:18:54.960> um little too um

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they got the right answer for everything a<00:19:01.080> little<00:19:01.200> too<00:19:01.380> sales<00:19:01.620> many<00:19:01.919> right<00:19:02.340> you<00:19:02.580> know a little too sales many right you know a little too sales many right you know we<00:19:02.880> we<00:19:03.059> kind<00:19:03.299> of<00:19:03.360> all<00:19:03.480> understand<00:19:03.720> that<00:19:04.200> uh

we we kind of all understand that uh we we kind of all understand that uh that<00:19:04.799> that<00:19:04.860> mode<00:19:05.160> of<00:19:05.340> operation that that mode of operation that that mode of operation all<00:19:08.160> right<00:19:08.280> so all right so all right so um<00:19:09.720> let's<00:19:09.900> talk<00:19:10.020> a<00:19:10.140> little<00:19:10.140> bit<00:19:10.260> about<00:19:10.440> the

um let's talk a little bit about the um let's talk a little bit about the rulers<00:19:11.039> that<00:19:11.520> follow<00:19:11.820> uh<00:19:13.140> uh<00:19:13.260> uh<00:19:13.380> tar<00:19:14.220> on<00:19:14.460> Kali rulers that follow uh uh uh tar on Kali

rulers that follow uh uh uh tar on Kali Mae<00:19:15.059> so<00:19:15.780> tar<00:19:16.679> uh<00:19:17.039> the<00:19:17.220> next<00:19:17.340> ruler<00:19:17.640> is Mae so tar uh the next ruler is Mae so tar uh the next ruler is taranarian taranarian taranarian the<00:19:19.679> taranarian<00:19:20.340> is<00:19:20.580> the<00:19:20.760> son<00:19:20.880> of<00:19:21.059> Taran

the taranarian is the son of Taran the taranarian is the son of Taran kalime<00:19:21.840> his<00:19:22.799> Reign<00:19:23.039> begins<00:19:23.340> in<00:19:23.580> the<00:19:23.700> year kalime his Reign begins in the year

kalime his Reign begins in the year second<00:19:24.120> age<00:19:24.360> 1280<00:19:25.020> and<00:19:25.679> he<00:19:25.919> is<00:19:26.100> 277<00:19:27.059> years<00:19:27.299> old second age 1280 and he is 277 years old second age 1280 and he is 277 years old at<00:19:27.900> his<00:19:28.020> a<00:19:28.260> session at his a session

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scepter so his youngest child and only son<00:19:33.900> sorian<00:19:34.440> becomes<00:19:34.860> king<00:19:35.039> after<00:19:35.220> him<00:19:35.520> so son sorian becomes king after him so son sorian becomes king after him so remember<00:19:36.059> at<00:19:36.299> this<00:19:36.419> point<00:19:36.600> the<00:19:36.840> law<00:19:36.960> had<00:19:37.140> been remember at this point the law had been

remember at this point the law had been changed<00:19:37.559> so<00:19:37.679> that<00:19:37.860> the<00:19:37.980> eldest<00:19:38.340> daughter changed so that the eldest daughter changed so that the eldest daughter could<00:19:39.360> uh<00:19:39.840> could<00:19:40.140> receive<00:19:40.380> the<00:19:40.559> scepter<00:19:41.400> I could uh could receive the scepter I

could uh could receive the scepter I talked<00:19:42.059> a<00:19:42.120> little<00:19:42.179> bit<00:19:42.299> about<00:19:42.419> my<00:19:42.960> confusion talked a little bit about my confusion talked a little bit about my confusion about<00:19:43.620> this<00:19:43.919> this<00:19:44.460> fact<00:19:44.700> last<00:19:45.000> time<00:19:45.299> so<00:19:45.419> I about this this fact last time so I

about this this fact last time so I won't<00:19:45.660> go<00:19:45.840> into<00:19:45.900> that<00:19:46.080> too<00:19:46.260> much<00:19:46.380> here<00:19:46.559> but won't go into that too much here but won't go into that too much here but there<00:19:46.980> is<00:19:47.160> sort<00:19:47.760> of<00:19:47.880> some<00:19:48.059> confusion<00:19:48.419> about there is sort of some confusion about

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worked in numenor around the statement here<00:19:53.160> so<00:19:54.059> nevertheless<00:19:54.840> story<00:19:55.200> on<00:19:55.980> um here so nevertheless story on um here so nevertheless story on um the<00:19:57.600> youngest<00:19:57.900> child<00:19:58.020> of<00:19:58.140> anarian<00:19:58.679> becomes the youngest child of anarian becomes the youngest child of anarian becomes the<00:19:59.280> king the king

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years later at the age of 401 and then years later at the age of 401 and then tar<00:20:06.720> suryan<00:20:07.200> his<00:20:07.919> Reign<00:20:08.160> begins<00:20:08.520> in<00:20:08.820> second tar suryan his Reign begins in second

tar suryan his Reign begins in second age<00:20:09.380> 1394.<00:20:10.380> uh<00:20:11.160> he<00:20:11.340> is<00:20:11.400> 220<00:20:11.820> years<00:20:12.000> old<00:20:12.179> at<00:20:12.419> a age 1394. uh he is 220 years old at a

age 1394. uh he is 220 years old at a session<00:20:12.780> and<00:20:13.559> he<00:20:13.799> has<00:20:13.919> two<00:20:14.160> children session and he has two children session and he has two children talparian<00:20:15.240> a<00:20:15.539> daughter<00:20:15.660> and<00:20:15.960> a<00:20:16.080> silamo<00:20:16.679> a<00:20:17.280> son talparian a daughter and a silamo a son

talparian a daughter and a silamo a son and<00:20:18.299> tell<00:20:18.539> perion<00:20:19.020> talparian<00:20:19.799> Will<00:20:20.100> Go<00:20:20.220> On<00:20:20.340> to and tell perion talparian Will Go On to and tell perion talparian Will Go On to be<00:20:20.640> the<00:20:20.880> second<00:20:21.000> ruling<00:20:21.480> Queen<00:20:21.860> more<00:20:22.860> about be the second ruling Queen more about

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ruled until 1556 dies 18 years later at the<00:20:30.780> age<00:20:30.900> of<00:20:31.320> 400.

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chapter I gotta be honest I'm not really chapter I gotta be honest I'm not really sure<00:20:38.520> what<00:20:38.820> we're<00:20:38.940> looking<00:20:39.179> at<00:20:39.360> here<00:20:39.539> my<00:20:40.020> best sure what we're looking at here my best

sure what we're looking at here my best guess<00:20:40.260> was<00:20:40.559> this<00:20:40.740> is<00:20:40.860> Sauron<00:20:41.340> treating<00:20:41.700> with guess was this is Sauron treating with guess was this is Sauron treating with the<00:20:42.000> elves<00:20:42.240> or<00:20:42.480> perhaps<00:20:42.780> men the elves or perhaps men

the elves or perhaps men um<00:20:44.400> but<00:20:44.760> to<00:20:44.880> be<00:20:45.000> honest<00:20:45.179> that's<00:20:45.360> just<00:20:45.539> the<00:20:45.660> best um but to be honest that's just the best

um but to be honest that's just the best guess<00:20:45.960> I'm<00:20:46.200> not<00:20:46.380> I<00:20:46.559> don't<00:20:46.740> have<00:20:46.860> any<00:20:47.039> degree<00:20:47.400> of guess I'm not I don't have any degree of guess I'm not I don't have any degree of confidence<00:20:47.880> about<00:20:48.179> me<00:20:48.660> being<00:20:48.900> right<00:20:49.080> on<00:20:49.320> that

confidence about me being right on that confidence about me being right on that if<00:20:50.580> you<00:20:50.700> have<00:20:50.820> a<00:20:50.940> clearer<00:20:51.240> idea<00:20:51.539> please<00:20:51.780> feel if you have a clearer idea please feel

if you have a clearer idea please feel free<00:20:52.200> to<00:20:52.380> mention<00:20:52.559> it<00:20:52.799> in<00:20:52.919> the<00:20:53.100> comments<00:20:53.400> below free to mention it in the comments below free to mention it in the comments below all<00:20:54.960> right all right

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brief chapter I'd note two things especially<00:21:02.039> first<00:21:02.840> Sauron<00:21:03.840> is<00:21:04.080> acting<00:21:04.440> but especially first Sauron is acting but especially first Sauron is acting but not<00:21:04.860> aggressively<00:21:05.460> at<00:21:05.580> this<00:21:05.760> point<00:21:05.880> he<00:21:06.539> seems not aggressively at this point he seems

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