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0342 » The Fall of Númenor Pt 17 » SA883 » The Accession of Tar-Aldarion

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This chapter concludes the era of Aldarion, one of the most important kings in the history of Númenor. As we learned in the last episode, his father, Tar-Meneldur, chose to turn the rule of Númenor over to Aldarion earlier than was normal, due to a letter from the Elven High-King Gil-galad. asking for Númenor’s aid amidst the increasingly dire situation in Middle-earth. In this chapter, we’ll explore Aldarion’s reign, as well as what becomes of his wife Erendis and daughter Ancalimë.
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aldarian made but that it is known that aldarian made but that it is known that he<00:03:49.739> went<00:03:49.920> much<00:03:50.220> on<00:03:50.459> land<00:03:50.640> as<00:03:50.940> well<00:03:51.120> as<00:03:51.239> sea<00:03:51.599> and he went much on land as well as sea and

he went much on land as well as sea and went<00:03:52.440> up<00:03:52.620> the<00:03:52.799> river<00:03:52.920> gwatolo<00:03:53.640> as<00:03:53.940> far<00:03:54.060> as went up the river gwatolo as far as went up the river gwatolo as far as tharbad<00:03:55.680> and<00:03:55.920> their<00:03:56.040> Med<00:03:56.280> Galadriel<00:03:56.879> there<00:03:57.659> is tharbad and their Med Galadriel there is

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Away the works that he began again at vignalande<00:04:11.400> were<00:04:11.819> never<00:04:12.000> completed<00:04:12.540> and<00:04:13.080> the vignalande were never completed and the vignalande were never completed and the Sea<00:04:13.500> nod<00:04:13.799> them<00:04:14.239> nevertheless<00:04:15.239> he<00:04:15.599> laid<00:04:15.840> the Sea nod them nevertheless he laid the

Sea nod them nevertheless he laid the foundation<00:04:16.320> for<00:04:16.680> the<00:04:16.859> achievement<00:04:17.340> of<00:04:18.000> tar foundation for the achievement of tar foundation for the achievement of tar Minister<00:04:18.660> long<00:04:19.139> years<00:04:19.380> after<00:04:19.620> in<00:04:19.979> the<00:04:20.100> first Minister long years after in the first

Minister long years after in the first war<00:04:20.459> was<00:04:20.699> Sauron<00:04:21.239> and<00:04:21.900> but<00:04:22.079> for<00:04:22.260> his<00:04:22.500> Works<00:04:22.800> The war was Sauron and but for his Works The war was Sauron and but for his Works The Fleets<00:04:23.220> of<00:04:23.340> numenor<00:04:23.820> could<00:04:24.360> not<00:04:24.540> have<00:04:24.720> brought

Fleets of numenor could not have brought Fleets of numenor could not have brought their<00:04:25.199> power<00:04:25.440> in<00:04:25.740> time<00:04:25.919> to<00:04:26.220> the<00:04:26.340> right<00:04:26.460> place their power in time to the right place their power in time to the right place as<00:04:27.419> he<00:04:27.540> foresaw as he foresaw

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dark men out of the mountains were thrusting<00:04:32.580> into<00:04:32.759> Enid<00:04:33.240> with thrusting into Enid with thrusting into Enid with but<00:04:34.440> in<00:04:34.560> aldarian's<00:04:35.340> day<00:04:35.400> the<00:04:35.639> numenoreans but in aldarian's day the numenoreans

but in aldarian's day the numenoreans did<00:04:36.479> not<00:04:36.660> yet<00:04:36.780> desire<00:04:37.199> more<00:04:37.440> room<00:04:37.680> and<00:04:38.340> his did not yet desire more room and his did not yet desire more room and his venturers<00:04:39.060> remained<00:04:39.479> a<00:04:39.600> small<00:04:39.780> people venturers remained a small people

venturers remained a small people admired<00:04:41.160> but<00:04:41.400> little<00:04:41.639> emulated admired but little emulated admired but little emulated so<00:04:43.620> just<00:04:43.860> to<00:04:43.979> hit<00:04:44.160> a<00:04:44.400> couple<00:04:44.520> of<00:04:44.699> uh<00:04:45.180> notes so just to hit a couple of uh notes so just to hit a couple of uh notes there there there um um

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the couple of places that were mentioned here here here so<00:04:56.460> let's<00:04:56.699> look<00:04:56.940> at<00:04:57.120> our<00:04:57.419> map<00:04:57.660> of<00:04:58.440> Middle<00:04:58.979> Earth so let's look at our map of Middle Earth so let's look at our map of Middle Earth so so

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probably familiar with from Lord of the Rings Rings Rings and<00:05:07.979> the<00:05:08.759> locations<00:05:09.419> that<00:05:09.600> are<00:05:09.720> mentioned and the locations that are mentioned and the locations that are mentioned here<00:05:10.320> really<00:05:10.860> are<00:05:11.400> this<00:05:12.060> section<00:05:12.300> that's<00:05:12.600> kind here really are this section that's kind

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bottom of the map and then the gray Havens<00:05:23.520> up<00:05:23.699> towards<00:05:24.120> the<00:05:24.660> top Havens up towards the top Havens up towards the top this<00:05:26.340> river<00:05:26.460> is<00:05:26.880> the<00:05:27.180> goathlow<00:05:27.780> which<00:05:27.900> in this river is the goathlow which in

this river is the goathlow which in later<00:05:28.199> years<00:05:28.380> is<00:05:28.620> called<00:05:28.800> the<00:05:28.919> gray<00:05:29.039> flood<00:05:29.460> and later years is called the gray flood and later years is called the gray flood and this<00:05:30.300> region<00:05:30.600> of<00:05:30.720> tharbot<00:05:31.199> where<00:05:31.440> it's this region of tharbot where it's

this region of tharbot where it's mentioned<00:05:31.800> that<00:05:31.979> Galadriel<00:05:32.580> dwells<00:05:33.060> is<00:05:33.479> here mentioned that Galadriel dwells is here mentioned that Galadriel dwells is here you<00:05:34.259> know<00:05:34.380> sort<00:05:34.560> of<00:05:34.680> in<00:05:34.919> the<00:05:35.100> southern<00:05:35.280> area<00:05:35.759> of you know sort of in the southern area of

you know sort of in the southern area of ariador ariador ariador um um um aldarion<00:05:40.800> had<00:05:41.100> done<00:05:41.220> some<00:05:41.460> work<00:05:41.639> in<00:05:41.940> his<00:05:42.120> time aldarion had done some work in his time aldarion had done some work in his time to<00:05:42.720> establish<00:05:43.199> this<00:05:43.620> Haven<00:05:43.979> of<00:05:44.100> India<00:05:44.460> londe

to establish this Haven of India londe to establish this Haven of India londe at<00:05:45.720> the<00:05:45.900> mouth<00:05:46.139> of<00:05:46.740> the<00:05:47.220> guaslow<00:05:48.000> gray<00:05:48.240> flood at the mouth of the guaslow gray flood

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later times but it didn't really take hold<00:05:55.139> in<00:05:55.560> a<00:05:55.740> long<00:05:55.979> and<00:05:56.280> meaningful<00:05:56.639> way hold in a long and meaningful way hold in a long and meaningful way nevertheless<00:05:58.500> Taral<00:05:59.400> Darian<00:05:59.759> was<00:06:00.000> a<00:06:00.180> Pioneer nevertheless Taral Darian was a Pioneer

nevertheless Taral Darian was a Pioneer and<00:06:00.720> he<00:06:00.960> did<00:06:01.139> you<00:06:01.740> know<00:06:01.800> really<00:06:01.979> Pioneer<00:06:02.520> this and he did you know really Pioneer this and he did you know really Pioneer this relationship<00:06:03.300> with<00:06:03.840> the<00:06:04.020> elves<00:06:04.259> of<00:06:04.440> bringing relationship with the elves of bringing

relationship with the elves of bringing back<00:06:04.919> numenor<00:06:05.580> to<00:06:06.360> the<00:06:06.720> west<00:06:06.900> of<00:06:07.320> Middle<00:06:07.560> Earth back numenor to the west of Middle Earth back numenor to the west of Middle Earth now<00:06:10.320> back<00:06:10.500> in<00:06:10.620> numenor<00:06:11.419> aldarion's<00:06:12.419> departure now back in numenor aldarion's departure

now back in numenor aldarion's departure causes<00:06:13.919> quite<00:06:14.220> the<00:06:14.340> stir<00:06:14.580> no<00:06:15.060> King<00:06:15.240> had<00:06:15.419> ever causes quite the stir no King had ever causes quite the stir no King had ever departed<00:06:16.020> numenor<00:06:16.500> during<00:06:16.740> his<00:06:16.979> Reign<00:06:17.280> and<00:06:18.000> in

departed numenor during his Reign and in departed numenor during his Reign and in his<00:06:18.240> place<00:06:18.419> halatan<00:06:19.080> of<00:06:19.320> Hiatus<00:06:19.800> dornani his place halatan of Hiatus dornani his place halatan of Hiatus dornani ruled<00:06:20.639> as<00:06:20.820> Regent ruled as Regent

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king's Council who had approved of mineldor's<00:06:26.340> decision<00:06:26.580> to<00:06:26.940> resign<00:06:27.180> the mineldor's decision to resign the mineldor's decision to resign the scepter<00:06:27.720> to<00:06:28.020> aldarian scepter to aldarian scepter to aldarian therefore<00:06:30.120> we<00:06:30.479> can<00:06:30.660> understand<00:06:30.780> why<00:06:31.440> he<00:06:31.680> was

therefore we can understand why he was therefore we can understand why he was chosen<00:06:32.280> he<00:06:33.060> was<00:06:33.180> nearest<00:06:33.360> of<00:06:33.720> mind<00:06:33.900> to chosen he was nearest of mind to chosen he was nearest of mind to aldarion<00:06:34.800> and<00:06:35.639> rather<00:06:36.539> than<00:06:36.720> the<00:06:36.900> other<00:06:37.020> Lords

aldarion and rather than the other Lords aldarion and rather than the other Lords of<00:06:37.440> numenor<00:06:37.860> so<00:06:38.039> of<00:06:38.220> all<00:06:38.400> the<00:06:38.520> Lords<00:06:38.759> of of numenor so of all the Lords of

of numenor so of all the Lords of numenor<00:06:39.240> he<00:06:39.419> was<00:06:39.539> nearest<00:06:39.660> to<00:06:39.960> the<00:06:40.080> mind<00:06:40.199> of numenor he was nearest to the mind of numenor he was nearest to the mind of aldarian<00:06:41.039> apparently aldarian apparently

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importance of matters back in uh back in Middle<00:06:48.660> Earth<00:06:48.900> itself Middle Earth itself Middle Earth itself unfortunately<00:06:51.080> aldarian's<00:06:52.080> return<00:06:52.199> to unfortunately aldarian's return to unfortunately aldarian's return to Middle<00:06:52.560> Earth<00:06:52.800> was<00:06:53.039> not<00:06:53.220> well<00:06:53.400> timed Middle Earth was not well timed

Middle Earth was not well timed the<00:06:55.680> chapter<00:06:55.800> says<00:06:56.160> it<00:06:56.280> was<00:06:56.400> too<00:06:56.580> late<00:06:56.759> for<00:06:57.120> the the chapter says it was too late for the the chapter says it was too late for the power<00:06:57.419> that<00:06:57.660> hated<00:06:57.840> numenor<00:06:58.380> had<00:06:58.560> already power that hated numenor had already

power that hated numenor had already waked<00:06:59.280> and<00:06:59.819> then<00:07:00.000> it<00:07:00.120> was<00:07:00.240> too<00:07:00.419> early<00:07:00.600> for waked and then it was too early for waked and then it was too early for numenor<00:07:01.440> was<00:07:01.620> not<00:07:01.740> yet<00:07:01.919> ready<00:07:02.100> for<00:07:02.340> the<00:07:02.460> battle

numenor was not yet ready for the battle numenor was not yet ready for the battle that<00:07:02.880> awaited<00:07:03.360> anyway that awaited anyway that awaited anyway indeed<00:07:05.160> it<00:07:05.340> would<00:07:05.400> seem<00:07:05.580> that<00:07:05.759> Sauron<00:07:06.180> chose indeed it would seem that Sauron chose indeed it would seem that Sauron chose his<00:07:06.900> moment<00:07:07.199> well his moment well

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so let's talk a little bit about ankalime<00:07:13.940> aldarian's<00:07:14.940> daughter<00:07:15.240> and<00:07:16.020> only ankalime aldarian's daughter and only ankalime aldarian's daughter and only child child child she<00:07:17.759> grew<00:07:18.000> up<00:07:18.060> as<00:07:18.180> we<00:07:18.360> might<00:07:18.479> expect<00:07:18.660> molded she grew up as we might expect molded

she grew up as we might expect molded into<00:07:19.800> a<00:07:20.039> formidable<00:07:20.520> personality<00:07:21.120> by<00:07:21.360> an into a formidable personality by an into a formidable personality by an operating<00:07:21.900> upbringing<00:07:22.740> which<00:07:22.979> saw<00:07:23.160> her operating upbringing which saw her

operating upbringing which saw her pitted<00:07:23.699> between<00:07:23.940> the<00:07:24.360> two<00:07:24.479> strong<00:07:24.720> between pitted between the two strong between pitted between the two strong between two<00:07:25.680> strong-willed<00:07:26.220> parents<00:07:26.580> she<00:07:27.240> did<00:07:27.360> not two strong-willed parents she did not

two strong-willed parents she did not seem<00:07:27.660> to<00:07:27.780> have<00:07:27.900> chosen<00:07:28.319> one<00:07:28.500> side<00:07:28.680> or<00:07:28.860> the seem to have chosen one side or the seem to have chosen one side or the other<00:07:29.099> for<00:07:29.400> it<00:07:29.639> says<00:07:30.000> she<00:07:30.539> approved<00:07:30.960> as<00:07:31.080> it

other for it says she approved as it other for it says she approved as it were<00:07:31.380> both<00:07:31.680> erendus's<00:07:32.460> treatment<00:07:32.639> of were both erendus's treatment of were both erendus's treatment of aldarion<00:07:33.660> on<00:07:33.960> his<00:07:34.080> late<00:07:34.199> return<00:07:34.380> but<00:07:35.220> also aldarion on his late return but also

aldarion on his late return but also aldarian's<00:07:36.300> anger<00:07:36.599> and<00:07:37.259> penitence<00:07:37.740> and aldarian's anger and penitence and aldarian's anger and penitence and subsequent<00:07:38.520> Relentless<00:07:39.060> dismissal<00:07:39.599> of subsequent Relentless dismissal of

subsequent Relentless dismissal of horrendous<00:07:40.259> from<00:07:40.680> his<00:07:40.860> heart<00:07:41.039> and<00:07:41.340> concern horrendous from his heart and concern horrendous from his heart and concern so<00:07:43.500> things<00:07:43.800> are<00:07:44.039> not<00:07:44.160> at<00:07:44.340> all<00:07:44.520> happy<00:07:44.699> on<00:07:45.000> the so things are not at all happy on the

so things are not at all happy on the home<00:07:45.300> front<00:07:45.479> and<00:07:46.139> ankalime<00:07:46.800> is<00:07:47.099> getting<00:07:47.220> to home front and ankalime is getting to home front and ankalime is getting to the<00:07:47.520> age<00:07:47.580> where<00:07:47.880> she's<00:07:48.000> able<00:07:48.360> to<00:07:48.479> really<00:07:49.080> pick the age where she's able to really pick

the age where she's able to really pick up<00:07:49.500> on<00:07:49.680> this<00:07:49.800> and<00:07:50.099> start<00:07:50.220> to<00:07:50.400> understand<00:07:50.580> that up on this and start to understand that up on this and start to understand that much<00:07:52.259> is<00:07:52.440> said<00:07:52.560> of<00:07:52.740> our<00:07:52.860> indus's<00:07:53.280> perspective

much is said of our indus's perspective much is said of our indus's perspective that<00:07:53.940> was<00:07:54.060> imparted<00:07:54.479> to<00:07:54.660> on<00:07:54.840> kalime that was imparted to on kalime that was imparted to on kalime this<00:07:56.340> is<00:07:56.460> a<00:07:56.639> good<00:07:56.699> summary<00:07:57.000> that<00:07:57.240> I've<00:07:57.360> lifted this is a good summary that I've lifted

this is a good summary that I've lifted from<00:07:57.900> the<00:07:58.080> text from the text from the text thus<00:07:59.460> it<00:07:59.639> is<00:07:59.819> on<00:08:00.180> Kali<00:08:00.599> Mei<00:08:00.900> and<00:08:01.020> we<00:08:01.139> cannot thus it is on Kali Mei and we cannot

thus it is on Kali Mei and we cannot alter<00:08:01.680> it<00:08:01.800> and<00:08:01.919> these<00:08:02.099> are<00:08:02.220> horrendous<00:08:02.759> words alter it and these are horrendous words

alter it and these are horrendous words by<00:08:03.300> the<00:08:03.419> way<00:08:03.539> thus<00:08:04.199> it<00:08:04.380> is<00:08:04.500> on<00:08:04.620> Kali<00:08:04.979> May<00:08:05.160> and<00:08:05.340> we by the way thus it is on Kali May and we

by the way thus it is on Kali May and we cannot<00:08:05.699> alter<00:08:06.000> it<00:08:06.180> for<00:08:06.780> men<00:08:07.020> fashion<00:08:07.560> numenor cannot alter it for men fashion numenor cannot alter it for men fashion numenor men<00:08:08.580> those<00:08:09.000> Heroes<00:08:09.360> of<00:08:09.419> old<00:08:09.660> that<00:08:09.840> they<00:08:09.960> sing

men those Heroes of old that they sing men those Heroes of old that they sing of<00:08:10.380> of<00:08:10.979> their<00:08:11.220> women<00:08:11.400> we<00:08:11.639> hear<00:08:11.759> less<00:08:12.000> say<00:08:12.419> that of of their women we hear less say that

of of their women we hear less say that they<00:08:12.780> wept<00:08:13.020> when<00:08:13.199> their<00:08:13.380> men<00:08:13.500> were<00:08:13.680> slain they wept when their men were slain they wept when their men were slain numenor<00:08:15.419> was<00:08:15.599> to<00:08:15.780> be<00:08:15.840> arrested<00:08:16.199> after<00:08:16.380> War<00:08:16.620> but numenor was to be arrested after War but

numenor was to be arrested after War but if<00:08:17.520> they<00:08:17.639> weary<00:08:17.880> of<00:08:18.120> rest<00:08:18.240> and<00:08:18.539> the<00:08:18.660> plays<00:08:18.960> of if they weary of rest and the plays of if they weary of rest and the plays of Peace<00:08:19.379> soon<00:08:19.680> they<00:08:19.860> will<00:08:19.979> go<00:08:20.160> back<00:08:20.280> to<00:08:20.520> their

Peace soon they will go back to their Peace soon they will go back to their great<00:08:20.879> play<00:08:21.440> manslaying<00:08:22.440> and<00:08:22.560> War<00:08:23.220> thus<00:08:23.759> it<00:08:23.940> is great play manslaying and War thus it is

great play manslaying and War thus it is and<00:08:24.479> we<00:08:24.660> are<00:08:24.780> set<00:08:24.960> here<00:08:25.139> among<00:08:25.500> them<00:08:25.620> but<00:08:26.340> we and we are set here among them but we and we are set here among them but we need<00:08:26.639> not<00:08:26.819> Ascent<00:08:27.240> if<00:08:28.020> we<00:08:28.139> love<00:08:28.259> numenor<00:08:28.800> also

need not Ascent if we love numenor also need not Ascent if we love numenor also let<00:08:29.580> us<00:08:29.759> enjoy<00:08:30.000> it<00:08:30.180> before<00:08:30.360> they<00:08:30.660> ruin<00:08:30.960> it<00:08:31.080> we let us enjoy it before they ruin it we

let us enjoy it before they ruin it we also<00:08:32.219> are<00:08:32.399> Daughters<00:08:32.820> of<00:08:32.940> the<00:08:33.060> great<00:08:33.240> and<00:08:33.539> we also are Daughters of the great and we also are Daughters of the great and we have<00:08:33.839> wills<00:08:34.260> and<00:08:34.380> courage<00:08:34.680> of<00:08:34.800> our<00:08:34.979> own have wills and courage of our own

have wills and courage of our own therefore<00:08:36.180> do<00:08:36.419> not<00:08:36.539> bend<00:08:36.839> on<00:08:37.020> Kali<00:08:37.380> Mae therefore do not bend on Kali Mae therefore do not bend on Kali Mae once<00:08:39.479> bend<00:08:39.659> a<00:08:39.779> little<00:08:39.899> and<00:08:40.140> they<00:08:40.260> will<00:08:40.380> bend once bend a little and they will bend

once bend a little and they will bend you<00:08:40.800> further<00:08:41.099> until<00:08:41.339> you<00:08:41.640> are<00:08:41.760> bowed<00:08:42.060> down you further until you are bowed down you further until you are bowed down sink<00:08:43.260> your<00:08:43.440> roots<00:08:43.680> into<00:08:43.860> the<00:08:44.039> Rock<00:08:44.159> and<00:08:44.459> face sink your roots into the Rock and face

sink your roots into the Rock and face the<00:08:44.880> wind<00:08:45.060> though<00:08:45.660> it<00:08:45.839> Blow<00:08:46.140> Away<00:08:46.260> all<00:08:46.680> your the wind though it Blow Away all your the wind though it Blow Away all your leaves leaves leaves however<00:08:49.560> she<00:08:49.860> was<00:08:49.980> perhaps<00:08:50.279> innately<00:08:50.700> more however she was perhaps innately more

however she was perhaps innately more like<00:08:51.060> her<00:08:51.300> father<00:08:51.480> as<00:08:51.839> is<00:08:52.080> glimpsed<00:08:52.560> In<00:08:52.680> this like her father as is glimpsed In this like her father as is glimpsed In this passage<00:08:53.220> ankali<00:08:54.060> may<00:08:54.180> like<00:08:54.420> her<00:08:54.600> father<00:08:54.779> was passage ankali may like her father was

passage ankali may like her father was Resolute<00:08:55.620> in<00:08:55.860> pursuing<00:08:56.339> her<00:08:56.580> policies<00:08:57.060> and Resolute in pursuing her policies and Resolute in pursuing her policies and like<00:08:57.959> him<00:08:58.140> she<00:08:58.380> was<00:08:58.500> obstinate<00:08:59.040> taking<00:08:59.700> the like him she was obstinate taking the

like him she was obstinate taking the opposite<00:09:00.300> course<00:09:00.480> to<00:09:00.779> any<00:09:00.959> that<00:09:01.320> was opposite course to any that was opposite course to any that was counseled counseled counseled she<00:09:03.600> does<00:09:03.720> spend<00:09:03.959> a<00:09:04.080> good<00:09:04.140> amount<00:09:04.320> of<00:09:04.440> time<00:09:04.560> in

she does spend a good amount of time in she does spend a good amount of time in armenelos<00:09:05.339> in<00:09:05.519> her<00:09:05.640> Youth<00:09:05.940> and<00:09:06.180> so<00:09:06.360> becomes armenelos in her Youth and so becomes armenelos in her Youth and so becomes accustomed<00:09:07.200> to<00:09:07.380> her<00:09:07.620> possible<00:09:07.920> airship accustomed to her possible airship

accustomed to her possible airship now<00:09:09.779> more<00:09:09.959> on<00:09:10.080> that<00:09:10.200> in<00:09:10.320> just<00:09:10.440> a<00:09:10.560> bit<00:09:10.680> but<00:09:10.860> I<00:09:11.040> do now more on that in just a bit but I do

now more on that in just a bit but I do want<00:09:11.279> to<00:09:11.339> make<00:09:11.459> a<00:09:11.640> quick<00:09:11.700> comment<00:09:12.060> on<00:09:12.240> this want to make a quick comment on this want to make a quick comment on this because<00:09:12.600> one<00:09:13.260> thing<00:09:13.440> that<00:09:13.560> you'll<00:09:13.800> sometimes because one thing that you'll sometimes

because one thing that you'll sometimes hear<00:09:14.279> from<00:09:14.700> some<00:09:15.180> folks<00:09:15.480> about<00:09:15.660> Tolkien<00:09:16.380> is hear from some folks about Tolkien is hear from some folks about Tolkien is that<00:09:16.860> he<00:09:17.220> was<00:09:17.580> uh<00:09:18.180> you<00:09:18.660> know<00:09:18.720> he<00:09:19.140> wrote<00:09:19.620> very

that he was uh you know he wrote very that he was uh you know he wrote very poor<00:09:20.459> uh<00:09:21.120> poor<00:09:21.480> female<00:09:21.660> characters<00:09:22.160> and<00:09:23.160> I poor uh poor female characters and I poor uh poor female characters and I just<00:09:23.640> think<00:09:23.760> whenever<00:09:24.240> I<00:09:24.420> hear<00:09:24.540> this<00:09:24.839> argument

just think whenever I hear this argument just think whenever I hear this argument or<00:09:25.920> this<00:09:26.160> accusation<00:09:26.700> made<00:09:26.940> towards<00:09:27.300> him<00:09:27.959> it or this accusation made towards him it

or this accusation made towards him it doesn't<00:09:28.740> make<00:09:29.160> much<00:09:29.519> sense<00:09:29.700> to<00:09:29.820> me<00:09:29.940> at<00:09:30.060> all<00:09:30.180> in doesn't make much sense to me at all in

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read much of Tolkien or to think very read much of Tolkien or to think very deeply<00:09:37.740> or<00:09:38.220> that<00:09:38.399> they're<00:09:38.519> imposing<00:09:39.000> their deeply or that they're imposing their deeply or that they're imposing their own<00:09:39.360> views<00:09:39.839> on<00:09:40.680> tolkien's<00:09:41.339> writing<00:09:41.640> I<00:09:42.420> for<00:09:42.779> one

own views on tolkien's writing I for one own views on tolkien's writing I for one think<00:09:43.620> he<00:09:43.860> speak<00:09:44.100> thinks<00:09:44.640> he<00:09:44.700> writes<00:09:45.060> very think he speak thinks he writes very think he speak thinks he writes very well<00:09:45.600> when<00:09:46.019> it<00:09:46.140> comes<00:09:46.380> to<00:09:46.560> the<00:09:46.740> Dynamics<00:09:47.220> of

well when it comes to the Dynamics of well when it comes to the Dynamics of the<00:09:48.120> relationship<00:09:48.540> between<00:09:48.779> men<00:09:49.019> and<00:09:49.200> women the relationship between men and women the relationship between men and women you<00:09:50.279> have<00:09:50.459> to<00:09:50.580> recall<00:09:50.940> on<00:09:51.300> one<00:09:51.420> hand<00:09:51.600> that<00:09:51.839> he's

you have to recall on one hand that he's you have to recall on one hand that he's writing<00:09:52.320> about<00:09:52.440> a<00:09:52.800> much<00:09:52.980> earlier<00:09:53.339> time<00:09:53.580> way writing about a much earlier time way

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back in the history even we might say of the<00:09:56.339> prehistory<00:09:56.640> you<00:09:57.000> know<00:09:57.060> he<00:09:57.240> is<00:09:57.360> trying<00:09:57.540> to the prehistory you know he is trying to the prehistory you know he is trying to write<00:09:57.899> something<00:09:58.500> of<00:09:58.740> a<00:09:58.920> history<00:09:59.100> of<00:09:59.459> a write something of a history of a

write something of a history of a Fantastical<00:10:00.120> time<00:10:00.480> within<00:10:01.440> our<00:10:01.620> own<00:10:01.740> world Fantastical time within our own world Fantastical time within our own world but<00:10:02.940> you<00:10:03.180> know<00:10:03.240> it's<00:10:03.360> passages<00:10:03.779> like<00:10:04.080> these but you know it's passages like these

but you know it's passages like these when<00:10:04.500> it<00:10:04.620> comes<00:10:04.800> to<00:10:04.920> adendocism when it comes to adendocism when it comes to adendocism horrendous<00:10:08.220> imparting<00:10:08.700> her<00:10:08.880> perspective<00:10:09.240> to horrendous imparting her perspective to

horrendous imparting her perspective to her<00:10:09.839> daughter<00:10:09.959> on<00:10:10.200> Kali<00:10:10.620> Mae<00:10:10.920> on<00:10:11.459> the<00:10:11.700> men<00:10:11.760> of her daughter on Kali Mae on the men of

her daughter on Kali Mae on the men of numenor<00:10:12.540> you<00:10:13.200> know<00:10:13.320> I<00:10:13.560> look<00:10:13.680> at<00:10:13.800> this<00:10:13.920> and<00:10:14.040> I numenor you know I look at this and I numenor you know I look at this and I say<00:10:14.339> he's<00:10:14.640> really<00:10:14.880> taking<00:10:15.060> his<00:10:15.360> time<00:10:15.660> to<00:10:16.620> write

say he's really taking his time to write say he's really taking his time to write from<00:10:17.640> a<00:10:18.120> female<00:10:18.360> perspective<00:10:19.019> here<00:10:19.320> he<00:10:19.980> is from a female perspective here he is

from a female perspective here he is really<00:10:20.279> taking<00:10:20.459> his<00:10:20.760> time<00:10:21.000> I<00:10:21.660> think<00:10:21.720> to<00:10:21.959> do<00:10:22.080> it really taking his time I think to do it

really taking his time I think to do it justice<00:10:22.740> and<00:10:23.100> to<00:10:23.339> to<00:10:23.519> do<00:10:23.700> justice<00:10:24.060> to<00:10:24.300> what<00:10:24.600> her justice and to to do justice to what her justice and to to do justice to what her her<00:10:26.100> own<00:10:26.399> claims<00:10:26.820> and<00:10:27.000> her<00:10:27.240> own<00:10:27.360> perspective

her own claims and her own perspective her own claims and her own perspective my<00:10:27.959> have<00:10:28.440> been<00:10:28.680> towards<00:10:29.220> uh<00:10:29.899> towards<00:10:30.980> aldari my have been towards uh towards aldari my have been towards uh towards aldari on<00:10:32.100> her<00:10:32.220> husband on her husband

on her husband I<00:10:33.660> think<00:10:33.720> of<00:10:33.899> other<00:10:34.080> characters<00:10:34.320> this<00:10:34.680> is<00:10:34.800> not I think of other characters this is not I think of other characters this is not the<00:10:35.100> only<00:10:35.160> example<00:10:35.660> but<00:10:36.660> you<00:10:36.839> know<00:10:36.899> it's<00:10:37.080> just the only example but you know it's just

the only example but you know it's just passages<00:10:37.620> like<00:10:37.920> these<00:10:38.100> that<00:10:38.399> really<00:10:38.640> make<00:10:38.820> me passages like these that really make me passages like these that really make me think<00:10:39.240> you<00:10:40.080> know<00:10:40.140> the<00:10:40.380> the<00:10:40.560> criticisms<00:10:41.279> in think you know the the criticisms in

think you know the the criticisms in general<00:10:41.700> that<00:10:42.600> uh<00:10:43.260> Tolkien<00:10:43.800> does<00:10:44.100> not<00:10:44.339> uh<00:10:44.940> you general that uh Tolkien does not uh you general that uh Tolkien does not uh you know<00:10:45.480> just<00:10:45.779> has<00:10:46.079> nothing<00:10:46.320> to<00:10:46.560> do<00:10:46.620> with know just has nothing to do with

know just has nothing to do with offering<00:10:47.399> any<00:10:47.640> kind<00:10:47.820> of<00:10:47.880> good<00:10:48.060> insights<00:10:48.540> into offering any kind of good insights into offering any kind of good insights into a<00:10:49.140> feminine<00:10:49.740> perspective a feminine perspective

a feminine perspective um<00:10:51.600> I<00:10:51.720> just<00:10:51.839> don't<00:10:51.959> think<00:10:52.079> those<00:10:52.260> hold<00:10:52.500> water um I just don't think those hold water um I just don't think those hold water at<00:10:52.980> all<00:10:53.160> now<00:10:53.519> you<00:10:53.700> might<00:10:53.820> take<00:10:53.940> issue<00:10:54.240> with<00:10:54.420> how

at all now you might take issue with how at all now you might take issue with how he<00:10:54.779> does<00:10:54.899> it<00:10:55.019> you<00:10:55.200> might<00:10:55.320> take<00:10:55.440> issue<00:10:55.800> with<00:10:56.040> you he does it you might take issue with you

he does it you might take issue with you know<00:10:56.579> things<00:10:56.880> he<00:10:57.120> says<00:10:57.360> here<00:10:57.540> or<00:10:57.720> there<00:10:57.959> and know things he says here or there and know things he says here or there and you<00:10:58.920> know<00:10:59.040> I'm<00:10:59.220> not<00:10:59.339> going<00:10:59.519> to<00:10:59.640> go<00:10:59.700> down<00:10:59.880> that

you know I'm not going to go down that you know I'm not going to go down that road<00:11:00.300> right<00:11:00.540> now<00:11:00.660> and<00:11:00.779> getting<00:11:00.959> into<00:11:01.140> the road right now and getting into the road right now and getting into the details<00:11:01.740> of<00:11:01.860> all<00:11:02.040> that<00:11:02.220> but<00:11:02.459> I<00:11:02.579> just<00:11:02.700> think

details of all that but I just think details of all that but I just think this<00:11:03.180> sort<00:11:03.420> of<00:11:03.540> Passage<00:11:03.839> right<00:11:04.019> here<00:11:04.320> you<00:11:04.920> know this sort of Passage right here you know

this sort of Passage right here you know just<00:11:05.760> says<00:11:06.180> like<00:11:06.360> it<00:11:06.540> just<00:11:06.720> makes<00:11:06.779> whenever<00:11:07.140> I just says like it just makes whenever I just says like it just makes whenever I hear<00:11:07.380> people<00:11:07.560> say<00:11:07.800> that<00:11:07.980> he<00:11:08.160> doesn't<00:11:08.279> even hear people say that he doesn't even

hear people say that he doesn't even bother<00:11:08.880> you<00:11:09.360> know<00:11:09.420> with<00:11:09.600> female<00:11:09.779> perspectives bother you know with female perspectives bother you know with female perspectives I<00:11:11.519> just<00:11:11.640> think<00:11:11.760> to<00:11:11.940> myself<00:11:12.060> you<00:11:12.540> haven't I just think to myself you haven't

I just think to myself you haven't really<00:11:12.839> read<00:11:13.019> much<00:11:13.140> Tolkien<00:11:13.680> have<00:11:13.800> you<00:11:13.980> or really read much Tolkien have you or really read much Tolkien have you or you're<00:11:14.640> just<00:11:14.820> kind<00:11:14.940> of<00:11:15.000> lift<00:11:15.360> you're<00:11:15.600> just you're just kind of lift you're just

you're just kind of lift you're just kind<00:11:16.079> of<00:11:16.200> imposing<00:11:16.620> that<00:11:16.860> view<00:11:17.040> on<00:11:17.399> him kind of imposing that view on him kind of imposing that view on him instead<00:11:18.000> of<00:11:18.060> actually<00:11:18.240> dealing<00:11:18.660> honestly instead of actually dealing honestly

instead of actually dealing honestly with<00:11:19.200> what<00:11:19.380> he's<00:11:19.500> written<00:11:19.860> so<00:11:20.640> there<00:11:21.180> you<00:11:21.300> go with what he's written so there you go with what he's written so there you go that's<00:11:21.839> my<00:11:22.079> Divergence<00:11:22.500> into<00:11:22.740> that<00:11:22.980> topic<00:11:23.279> for that's my Divergence into that topic for

that's my Divergence into that topic for now<00:11:23.700> uh<00:11:24.360> perhaps<00:11:24.720> we'll<00:11:24.839> talk<00:11:25.019> about<00:11:25.200> that now uh perhaps we'll talk about that now uh perhaps we'll talk about that more<00:11:25.620> later<00:11:25.860> I'm<00:11:26.399> sure<00:11:26.579> if<00:11:26.700> we<00:11:26.820> uh<00:11:27.000> you<00:11:27.180> know

more later I'm sure if we uh you know more later I'm sure if we uh you know there's<00:11:27.420> plenty<00:11:27.660> of<00:11:27.720> other<00:11:27.839> opportunities<00:11:28.260> to there's plenty of other opportunities to

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talk about it and we have dealt with it in<00:11:29.940> other<00:11:30.120> uh<00:11:30.540> you<00:11:30.660> know<00:11:30.779> in<00:11:30.839> other<00:11:31.079> episodes in other uh you know in other episodes in other uh you know in other episodes as<00:11:31.620> well<00:11:32.279> all<00:11:32.820> right<00:11:33.000> so<00:11:33.720> enough<00:11:34.019> of<00:11:34.260> that

as well all right so enough of that as well all right so enough of that excurses<00:11:35.100> for<00:11:35.339> now<00:11:35.519> let's<00:11:36.300> talk<00:11:36.480> about<00:11:36.600> the excurses for now let's talk about the excurses for now let's talk about the changing<00:11:37.079> of<00:11:37.200> the<00:11:37.320> laws<00:11:37.560> of<00:11:37.680> succession<00:11:38.040> a<00:11:38.820> not

changing of the laws of succession a not changing of the laws of succession a not unrelated<00:11:39.540> topic unrelated topic unrelated topic in<00:11:41.220> the<00:11:41.339> second<00:11:41.399> age<00:11:41.700> uh<00:11:42.120> 892<00:11:42.720> when<00:11:43.380> she<00:11:43.740> is<00:11:43.920> 19 in the second age uh 892 when she is 19

in the second age uh 892 when she is 19 um on<00:11:45.839> Kalima<00:11:46.320> is<00:11:46.440> proclaimed<00:11:46.860> the<00:11:46.980> king's um on Kalima is proclaimed the king's um on Kalima is proclaimed the king's Heir<00:11:47.579> and<00:11:47.760> tar<00:11:48.060> aldarian<00:11:48.839> causes<00:11:49.380> the<00:11:49.500> law<00:11:49.620> of Heir and tar aldarian causes the law of

Heir and tar aldarian causes the law of succession<00:11:50.100> a<00:11:50.339> new<00:11:50.519> manure<00:11:50.760> to<00:11:50.940> be<00:11:51.060> changed succession a new manure to be changed succession a new manure to be changed the<00:11:52.740> new<00:11:52.860> law<00:11:53.040> well<00:11:53.640> it's<00:11:54.120> the<00:11:54.300> eldest<00:11:54.660> child the new law well it's the eldest child

the new law well it's the eldest child of<00:11:55.079> the<00:11:55.200> ruler<00:11:55.500> so<00:11:55.620> before<00:11:55.860> it<00:11:56.160> had<00:11:56.279> to<00:11:56.459> be<00:11:56.700> a of the ruler so before it had to be a

of the ruler so before it had to be a male<00:11:57.300> Heir<00:11:57.660> so<00:11:57.779> it<00:11:57.899> had<00:11:58.079> to<00:11:58.200> be<00:11:58.320> uh<00:11:58.980> kind<00:11:59.100> of<00:11:59.220> it male Heir so it had to be uh kind of it

male Heir so it had to be uh kind of it went<00:11:59.760> Always<00:12:00.060> by<00:12:00.480> the<00:12:00.839> nearest<00:12:01.019> male<00:12:01.680> in<00:12:01.860> line went Always by the nearest male in line went Always by the nearest male in line of<00:12:02.339> descent<00:12:02.640> in<00:12:02.880> the<00:12:03.060> line<00:12:03.120> of<00:12:03.300> elrose of descent in the line of elrose

of descent in the line of elrose um<00:12:05.760> but<00:12:06.120> now<00:12:06.620> aldarion<00:12:07.620> succeeds<00:12:08.160> in<00:12:08.339> changing um but now aldarion succeeds in changing um but now aldarion succeeds in changing the<00:12:08.880> rules<00:12:09.120> so<00:12:09.420> that<00:12:09.720> uh<00:12:10.500> so<00:12:10.800> that<00:12:10.920> ankaliime the rules so that uh so that ankaliime

the rules so that uh so that ankaliime his<00:12:11.760> only<00:12:11.880> child<00:12:12.120> can<00:12:12.540> become<00:12:12.959> the<00:12:13.800> uh<00:12:14.339> the his only child can become the uh the his only child can become the uh the ruler<00:12:14.940> of<00:12:15.060> numenor<00:12:15.540> after<00:12:15.779> him ruler of numenor after him

ruler of numenor after him but<00:12:17.640> it's<00:12:18.000> not<00:12:18.240> really<00:12:18.540> changed<00:12:19.140> you<00:12:19.740> know<00:12:19.860> to but it's not really changed you know to but it's not really changed you know to give<00:12:20.399> an<00:12:20.579> equal<00:12:20.760> footing<00:12:21.360> to<00:12:22.019> uh<00:12:22.620> women<00:12:22.860> per<00:12:23.220> se

give an equal footing to uh women per se give an equal footing to uh women per se to<00:12:23.640> the<00:12:23.880> to<00:12:24.120> possible<00:12:24.720> female<00:12:25.019> heirs<00:12:25.680> per<00:12:26.100> se to the to possible female heirs per se

to the to possible female heirs per se uh<00:12:27.480> really<00:12:27.660> it<00:12:28.320> is<00:12:28.500> I<00:12:28.680> read<00:12:28.860> it<00:12:29.040> it's<00:12:29.160> just uh really it is I read it it's just uh really it is I read it it's just given<00:12:29.640> the<00:12:29.760> benefit<00:12:29.940> if<00:12:30.360> there<00:12:30.480> is<00:12:30.660> an<00:12:30.839> eldest

given the benefit if there is an eldest given the benefit if there is an eldest daughter<00:12:31.500> of<00:12:32.100> the<00:12:32.820> king<00:12:33.060> or<00:12:33.480> queen<00:12:33.839> then<00:12:34.680> they daughter of the king or queen then they

daughter of the king or queen then they are<00:12:35.220> the<00:12:35.399> next<00:12:35.519> ones<00:12:36.000> to<00:12:36.420> receive<00:12:37.019> uh<00:12:37.800> the are the next ones to receive uh the are the next ones to receive uh the rulership<00:12:38.279> I'm<00:12:38.940> not<00:12:39.120> even<00:12:39.180> sure<00:12:39.420> if<00:12:39.600> another rulership I'm not even sure if another

rulership I'm not even sure if another daughter<00:12:40.279> would<00:12:41.279> be<00:12:41.459> if<00:12:41.880> a<00:12:42.300> second<00:12:42.420> daughter daughter would be if a second daughter daughter would be if a second daughter would<00:12:43.560> be<00:12:43.740> considered<00:12:44.279> it's<00:12:44.519> not<00:12:44.760> really would be considered it's not really

would be considered it's not really clear<00:12:45.120> on<00:12:45.420> that<00:12:45.600> point<00:12:45.779> entirely<00:12:46.380> you<00:12:46.980> can clear on that point entirely you can clear on that point entirely you can read<00:12:47.220> it<00:12:47.399> either<00:12:47.579> way read it either way

read it either way um<00:12:49.079> but<00:12:49.320> what's<00:12:49.560> interesting<00:12:49.920> is<00:12:50.160> that<00:12:50.339> Beyond um but what's interesting is that Beyond um but what's interesting is that Beyond direct<00:12:51.300> descent<00:12:51.899> from<00:12:52.260> the<00:12:52.440> King<00:12:52.560> that<00:12:53.220> it's direct descent from the King that it's

direct descent from the King that it's the<00:12:53.639> nearest<00:12:53.760> male<00:12:54.180> Kinsmen<00:12:54.660> of<00:12:54.959> male<00:12:55.260> descent the nearest male Kinsmen of male descent the nearest male Kinsmen of male descent from<00:12:56.160> elrose<00:12:56.760> that<00:12:57.120> has<00:12:57.300> the<00:12:57.540> priority from elrose that has the priority

from elrose that has the priority so<00:12:58.980> this<00:12:59.100> is<00:12:59.220> a<00:12:59.339> bit<00:12:59.459> confusing<00:12:59.880> the<00:13:00.660> new<00:13:00.779> law so this is a bit confusing the new law so this is a bit confusing the new law still<00:13:01.260> very<00:13:01.680> much<00:13:01.800> favors<00:13:02.160> male<00:13:02.399> succession still very much favors male succession

still very much favors male succession even<00:13:03.180> to<00:13:03.360> a<00:13:03.600> somewhat<00:13:03.959> absurd<00:13:04.440> extent<00:13:04.740> but<00:13:05.519> at even to a somewhat absurd extent but at even to a somewhat absurd extent but at least<00:13:05.820> makes<00:13:06.120> exception<00:13:06.660> for<00:13:06.959> the<00:13:07.139> eldest least makes exception for the eldest

least makes exception for the eldest daughter<00:13:07.740> of<00:13:08.100> the<00:13:08.220> ruler<00:13:09.000> so<00:13:09.360> on<00:13:09.540> Kali<00:13:09.899> May daughter of the ruler so on Kali May daughter of the ruler so on Kali May will<00:13:10.320> be<00:13:10.500> able<00:13:10.620> to<00:13:10.740> become<00:13:11.100> the<00:13:11.639> ruler<00:13:11.940> of

will be able to become the ruler of will be able to become the ruler of numenor<00:13:12.600> after<00:13:13.500> tar<00:13:14.040> aldarion<00:13:14.700> uh<00:13:15.480> is<00:13:15.779> after numenor after tar aldarion uh is after numenor after tar aldarion uh is after aldarian<00:13:17.220> resigns<00:13:18.120> or<00:13:18.300> passes<00:13:18.779> away aldarian resigns or passes away

aldarian resigns or passes away one<00:13:20.880> other<00:13:21.000> note<00:13:21.300> it's<00:13:21.660> also<00:13:21.899> decreed<00:13:22.380> the one other note it's also decreed the one other note it's also decreed the following<00:13:22.920> the<00:13:23.639> King's<00:13:23.880> Heir<00:13:24.180> must<00:13:24.360> only<00:13:24.540> wed following the King's Heir must only wed

following the King's Heir must only wed in<00:13:25.019> the<00:13:25.139> line<00:13:25.260> of<00:13:25.380> elrose<00:13:25.920> now<00:13:26.639> this<00:13:26.820> seems<00:13:27.060> to in the line of elrose now this seems to

in the line of elrose now this seems to be<00:13:27.240> a<00:13:27.480> clear<00:13:27.600> attack<00:13:27.839> on<00:13:28.260> erindus<00:13:28.860> by<00:13:29.040> aldarian be a clear attack on erindus by aldarian be a clear attack on erindus by aldarian indeed<00:13:30.779> the<00:13:31.019> marriage<00:13:31.200> of<00:13:31.320> aldarion<00:13:31.860> and indeed the marriage of aldarion and

indeed the marriage of aldarion and orindus<00:13:32.519> never<00:13:32.760> heals<00:13:33.240> and<00:13:33.779> only<00:13:33.959> seems<00:13:34.320> to orindus never heals and only seems to orindus never heals and only seems to become<00:13:34.560> a<00:13:34.680> greater<00:13:34.920> source<00:13:35.220> of<00:13:35.339> bitterness become a greater source of bitterness

become a greater source of bitterness over<00:13:36.120> time over time over time but<00:13:37.920> uh<00:13:38.700> this<00:13:39.060> seems<00:13:39.360> clear<00:13:39.540> to<00:13:40.200> kind<00:13:40.320> of<00:13:40.380> make but uh this seems clear to kind of make

but uh this seems clear to kind of make this<00:13:40.800> point<00:13:40.980> that<00:13:41.220> we<00:13:41.459> want<00:13:41.579> to<00:13:41.700> keep<00:13:41.880> it this point that we want to keep it this point that we want to keep it within<00:13:42.600> this<00:13:43.079> you<00:13:43.380> know<00:13:43.440> sort<00:13:44.040> of<00:13:44.160> highest within this you know sort of highest

within this you know sort of highest line<00:13:45.180> of<00:13:45.540> descent<00:13:45.899> the<00:13:46.440> the<00:13:46.620> line<00:13:46.980> you<00:13:47.399> know line of descent the the line you know line of descent the the line you know the<00:13:47.639> line<00:13:47.880> of<00:13:48.120> uh<00:13:48.600> descent<00:13:48.959> from<00:13:49.079> elrose the line of uh descent from elrose

the line of uh descent from elrose that's<00:13:49.800> actually<00:13:50.040> going<00:13:50.399> to<00:13:50.760> result<00:13:51.180> in<00:13:51.420> the that's actually going to result in the that's actually going to result in the longest<00:13:51.839> lifespan<00:13:52.380> it's<00:13:52.980> a<00:13:53.220> very<00:13:53.279> interesting longest lifespan it's a very interesting

longest lifespan it's a very interesting note<00:13:53.760> like<00:13:54.180> one<00:13:54.660> that<00:13:54.959> perhaps<00:13:55.320> we<00:13:55.500> could<00:13:55.620> dive note like one that perhaps we could dive note like one that perhaps we could dive into<00:13:56.120> some<00:13:57.120> people<00:13:57.240> might<00:13:57.540> take<00:13:57.720> a<00:13:57.959> lot<00:13:58.079> of

into some people might take a lot of into some people might take a lot of issue<00:13:58.500> with<00:13:58.680> this<00:13:59.000> uh<00:14:00.000> I<00:14:00.180> don't<00:14:00.240> know<00:14:00.360> where<00:14:00.600> I issue with this uh I don't know where I

issue with this uh I don't know where I stand<00:14:00.899> on<00:14:01.079> it<00:14:01.200> I<00:14:01.320> don't<00:14:01.440> know<00:14:01.560> what<00:14:01.860> I<00:14:02.040> would stand on it I don't know what I would

stand on it I don't know what I would think<00:14:02.220> about<00:14:02.339> that<00:14:02.579> on<00:14:02.760> one<00:14:02.880> hand<00:14:03.000> I<00:14:03.180> kind<00:14:03.360> of think about that on one hand I kind of think about that on one hand I kind of understand<00:14:03.540> the<00:14:03.899> idea<00:14:04.139> that<00:14:04.380> like<00:14:04.560> hey<00:14:05.100> in

understand the idea that like hey in understand the idea that like hey in here<00:14:06.180> we<00:14:06.480> know<00:14:06.660> for<00:14:06.839> sure<00:14:06.959> that<00:14:07.380> people<00:14:07.620> in<00:14:07.920> the here we know for sure that people in the

here we know for sure that people in the line<00:14:08.160> of<00:14:08.339> elrose<00:14:08.820> actually<00:14:09.180> live<00:14:09.600> closer<00:14:10.139> to line of elrose actually live closer to line of elrose actually live closer to 400<00:14:10.920> 450<00:14:11.639> years<00:14:11.940> and<00:14:12.600> if<00:14:12.779> we<00:14:12.959> start<00:14:13.200> you<00:14:13.800> know

400 450 years and if we start you know 400 450 years and if we start you know allowing<00:14:14.459> the<00:14:15.000> king's<00:14:15.420> line<00:14:15.720> to<00:14:16.079> enter<00:14:16.200> or<00:14:16.560> the allowing the king's line to enter or the

allowing the king's line to enter or the ruler<00:14:17.040> the<00:14:17.160> line<00:14:17.339> of<00:14:17.519> rulers<00:14:17.820> to<00:14:18.060> enter<00:14:18.180> Mary ruler the line of rulers to enter Mary ruler the line of rulers to enter Mary with<00:14:19.440> these<00:14:19.800> other<00:14:19.920> lines<00:14:20.339> you<00:14:21.120> know<00:14:21.240> it<00:14:21.600> will

with these other lines you know it will with these other lines you know it will start<00:14:22.019> to<00:14:22.320> dilute<00:14:22.680> that<00:14:22.980> age<00:14:23.220> range<00:14:23.639> now<00:14:23.940> some start to dilute that age range now some

start to dilute that age range now some people<00:14:24.420> you<00:14:25.260> know<00:14:25.380> I<00:14:25.860> think<00:14:25.980> would<00:14:26.339> argue<00:14:26.639> that people you know I think would argue that people you know I think would argue that that<00:14:27.000> fall<00:14:27.240> that<00:14:27.660> sounds<00:14:27.779> very<00:14:28.620> um that fall that sounds very um

that fall that sounds very um you<00:14:29.940> know<00:14:30.000> eugenicist<00:14:30.720> right<00:14:31.019> which<00:14:31.320> is you know eugenicist right which is you know eugenicist right which is something<00:14:31.620> that<00:14:31.980> you<00:14:32.519> know<00:14:32.579> probably<00:14:32.880> most<00:14:33.180> of something that you know probably most of

something that you know probably most of us<00:14:33.360> are<00:14:33.600> not<00:14:33.779> very<00:14:33.959> much<00:14:34.079> a<00:14:34.200> fan<00:14:34.380> of<00:14:34.500> uh<00:14:35.459> but<00:14:35.820> I us are not very much a fan of uh but I

us are not very much a fan of uh but I will<00:14:36.540> say<00:14:36.720> that<00:14:36.959> right<00:14:37.260> here<00:14:37.440> when<00:14:37.800> we're<00:14:37.920> just will say that right here when we're just will say that right here when we're just talking<00:14:38.220> strictly<00:14:38.639> about<00:14:38.820> the<00:14:39.000> king's<00:14:39.240> line talking strictly about the king's line

talking strictly about the king's line there<00:14:39.660> does<00:14:39.839> seem<00:14:39.959> to<00:14:40.079> be<00:14:40.199> something<00:14:40.380> to<00:14:40.680> this there does seem to be something to this there does seem to be something to this that<00:14:41.639> maybe<00:14:42.060> doesn't<00:14:42.480> necessarily<00:14:43.079> apply<00:14:43.500> in that maybe doesn't necessarily apply in

that maybe doesn't necessarily apply in actual<00:14:44.820> reality<00:14:45.300> right<00:14:45.839> your<00:14:46.800> mileage<00:14:47.100> may actual reality right your mileage may actual reality right your mileage may vary<00:14:47.519> I'm<00:14:47.940> not<00:14:48.360> sure<00:14:48.540> where<00:14:48.720> I<00:14:48.899> stand<00:14:49.079> on<00:14:49.260> it vary I'm not sure where I stand on it

vary I'm not sure where I stand on it but<00:14:49.740> I<00:14:50.399> do<00:14:50.519> think<00:14:50.639> it's<00:14:50.820> an<00:14:50.940> interesting<00:14:51.180> note but I do think it's an interesting note but I do think it's an interesting note something<00:14:51.660> to<00:14:51.899> highlight<00:14:52.199> here<00:14:52.560> and<00:14:53.100> you<00:14:53.519> know

something to highlight here and you know something to highlight here and you know perhaps<00:14:53.880> something<00:14:54.060> to<00:14:54.300> revisit<00:14:54.720> at<00:14:54.899> a<00:14:55.019> later perhaps something to revisit at a later perhaps something to revisit at a later time time

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more about on Kali Mae specifically and on<00:15:01.560> Kali<00:15:01.920> May<00:15:02.040> and<00:15:02.339> this<00:15:02.579> figure<00:15:02.820> Mama<00:15:03.300> deal on Kali May and this figure Mama deal on Kali May and this figure Mama deal on<00:15:04.740> Callie<00:15:05.160> May<00:15:05.220> becomes<00:15:05.579> annoyed<00:15:05.940> by<00:15:06.120> the on Callie May becomes annoyed by the

on Callie May becomes annoyed by the approaches<00:15:06.779> of<00:15:07.260> various<00:15:07.560> suitors<00:15:08.040> and<00:15:08.459> so approaches of various suitors and so approaches of various suitors and so goes<00:15:08.940> into<00:15:09.060> hiding<00:15:09.480> on<00:15:09.660> a<00:15:09.779> farm<00:15:09.899> and<00:15:10.260> secretly goes into hiding on a farm and secretly

goes into hiding on a farm and secretly secretly<00:15:11.279> lives<00:15:11.579> the<00:15:11.699> life<00:15:11.820> of<00:15:12.060> a<00:15:12.180> shepherdist secretly lives the life of a shepherdist secretly lives the life of a shepherdist she<00:15:13.740> falls<00:15:13.860> in<00:15:14.100> with<00:15:14.220> a<00:15:14.339> Shepherd<00:15:14.639> by<00:15:14.820> the<00:15:14.940> name

she falls in with a Shepherd by the name she falls in with a Shepherd by the name mamandil<00:15:15.899> we<00:15:16.560> get<00:15:16.740> a<00:15:16.860> sketch<00:15:17.100> of<00:15:17.160> how<00:15:17.279> a mamandil we get a sketch of how a mamandil we get a sketch of how a romance<00:15:17.760> between<00:15:17.940> the<00:15:18.180> two<00:15:18.300> developed<00:15:18.720> and

romance between the two developed and romance between the two developed and played<00:15:19.199> out<00:15:19.320> with<00:15:19.860> the<00:15:19.980> result<00:15:20.100> being<00:15:20.399> that played out with the result being that played out with the result being that unkali<00:15:21.120> may<00:15:21.300> discovers<00:15:21.720> that<00:15:21.899> Mama<00:15:22.079> deal<00:15:22.380> is

unkali may discovers that Mama deal is unkali may discovers that Mama deal is none<00:15:22.860> other<00:15:22.980> than<00:15:23.220> halakar<00:15:23.760> son<00:15:24.060> of<00:15:24.240> halitan none other than halakar son of halitan none other than halakar son of halitan also<00:15:25.500> of<00:15:25.620> the<00:15:25.740> line<00:15:25.860> of<00:15:26.100> elrose also of the line of elrose

also of the line of elrose though<00:15:27.899> they<00:15:28.139> will<00:15:28.260> eventually<00:15:28.560> wed<00:15:28.860> though though they will eventually wed though though they will eventually wed though it<00:15:29.519> is<00:15:29.639> not<00:15:29.760> a<00:15:29.880> happy<00:15:30.000> marriage it is not a happy marriage

it is not a happy marriage I'm<00:15:32.040> sorry<00:15:32.160> I<00:15:32.339> should<00:15:32.519> put<00:15:32.639> that<00:15:32.820> this<00:15:33.060> way I'm sorry I should put that this way I'm sorry I should put that this way they<00:15:33.660> will<00:15:33.839> eventually<00:15:34.199> wed<00:15:34.680> though<00:15:35.100> it<00:15:35.279> is they will eventually wed though it is

they will eventually wed though it is not<00:15:35.579> a<00:15:35.760> happy<00:15:35.880> marriage<00:15:36.300> mirroring<00:15:37.079> to<00:15:37.260> some not a happy marriage mirroring to some not a happy marriage mirroring to some extent<00:15:37.680> the<00:15:37.860> relationship<00:15:38.220> of<00:15:38.519> her<00:15:38.639> parents extent the relationship of her parents

extent the relationship of her parents authentic<00:15:39.899> love<00:15:40.079> and<00:15:40.320> affection<00:15:40.620> at<00:15:40.860> the authentic love and affection at the authentic love and affection at the outset<00:15:41.279> strained<00:15:41.760> by<00:15:41.880> the<00:15:42.000> realities<00:15:42.360> of outset strained by the realities of

outset strained by the realities of power<00:15:42.899> responsibility<00:15:43.800> and<00:15:44.160> personal<00:15:44.399> will power responsibility and personal will power responsibility and personal will in<00:15:45.959> some<00:15:46.079> view<00:15:46.199> it<00:15:46.500> is<00:15:46.680> a<00:15:46.920> major<00:15:47.120> uh<00:15:48.120> it<00:15:48.839> is<00:15:49.019> a

in some view it is a major uh it is a in some view it is a major uh it is a marriage<00:15:49.740> of<00:15:50.040> necessity<00:15:50.459> both<00:15:51.060> in<00:15:51.240> order<00:15:51.420> to marriage of necessity both in order to marriage of necessity both in order to beget<00:15:51.959> and<00:15:52.139> heir<00:15:52.380> to<00:15:52.500> the<00:15:52.620> throne<00:15:52.860> and<00:15:53.220> to

beget and heir to the throne and to beget and heir to the throne and to ensure<00:15:53.699> the<00:15:54.000> long<00:15:54.060> reign<00:15:54.420> of<00:15:54.540> ankalime ensure the long reign of ankalime ensure the long reign of ankalime their<00:15:56.639> only<00:15:56.820> child<00:15:57.060> is<00:15:57.480> anarian their only child is anarian

their only child is anarian now<00:16:00.060> the<00:16:00.660> last<00:16:00.839> major<00:16:01.199> bit<00:16:01.440> of<00:16:01.680> this<00:16:01.800> chapter now the last major bit of this chapter now the last major bit of this chapter concerns<00:16:03.000> a<00:16:03.660> what<00:16:04.079> looks<00:16:04.500> like<00:16:04.560> it<00:16:04.740> could<00:16:04.860> have

concerns a what looks like it could have concerns a what looks like it could have been<00:16:05.160> a<00:16:05.459> story<00:16:05.699> or<00:16:06.540> a<00:16:06.779> longer<00:16:07.199> set<00:16:07.620> of<00:16:07.740> chapters been a story or a longer set of chapters

been a story or a longer set of chapters in<00:16:08.579> a<00:16:08.760> in<00:16:09.000> the<00:16:09.240> big<00:16:09.540> story<00:16:09.779> of<00:16:10.199> aldarian<00:16:10.860> and in a in the big story of aldarian and in a in the big story of aldarian and horrendous<00:16:11.579> if<00:16:11.940> it<00:16:12.060> had<00:16:12.180> been<00:16:12.360> you<00:16:12.540> know

horrendous if it had been you know horrendous if it had been you know become<00:16:12.899> its<00:16:13.139> own<00:16:13.199> novel<00:16:13.500> it<00:16:13.980> looks<00:16:14.160> like<00:16:14.279> this become its own novel it looks like this

become its own novel it looks like this could<00:16:14.579> have<00:16:14.699> been<00:16:14.880> a<00:16:15.180> story<00:16:15.300> in<00:16:15.540> and<00:16:15.720> of<00:16:15.839> itself could have been a story in and of itself

could have been a story in and of itself of<00:16:17.040> a<00:16:17.279> couple<00:16:17.399> of<00:16:17.519> chapters<00:16:17.940> and<00:16:18.360> it<00:16:18.480> concerns of a couple of chapters and it concerns of a couple of chapters and it concerns this<00:16:19.019> great<00:16:19.199> wedding<00:16:19.380> Feast<00:16:19.860> that<00:16:20.459> is<00:16:20.639> put<00:16:20.820> on

this great wedding Feast that is put on this great wedding Feast that is put on by<00:16:21.180> holocar by holocar by holocar so<00:16:23.399> essentially<00:16:23.760> it's<00:16:23.940> a<00:16:24.060> story<00:16:24.240> that so essentially it's a story that so essentially it's a story that manifests<00:16:25.019> their<00:16:25.620> lifelong<00:16:26.160> lovers<00:16:26.519> quarrel manifests their lifelong lovers quarrel

manifests their lifelong lovers quarrel the<00:16:27.240> the<00:16:27.540> uh<00:16:28.199> the<00:16:28.560> lifelong<00:16:28.860> lovers<00:16:29.220> quarrel the the uh the lifelong lovers quarrel the the uh the lifelong lovers quarrel between<00:16:29.699> halakar<00:16:30.420> and<00:16:30.720> ankalime between halakar and ankalime

between halakar and ankalime it<00:16:32.760> concludes<00:16:33.060> with<00:16:33.360> this<00:16:33.540> ominous<00:16:33.959> line<00:16:34.139> well it concludes with this ominous line well it concludes with this ominous line well and<00:16:34.560> just<00:16:34.860> before<00:16:34.980> I<00:16:35.160> get<00:16:35.279> to<00:16:35.339> that<00:16:35.519> conclusion and just before I get to that conclusion

and just before I get to that conclusion really<00:16:36.779> what<00:16:36.959> it<00:16:37.139> concerns<00:16:37.500> is<00:16:37.860> a<00:16:38.459> marriage really what it concerns is a marriage really what it concerns is a marriage Feast<00:16:39.779> a<00:16:39.959> wedding<00:16:40.139> Feast<00:16:40.500> put<00:16:40.740> on<00:16:40.920> by<00:16:41.339> halikar Feast a wedding Feast put on by halikar

Feast a wedding Feast put on by halikar not<00:16:42.240> for<00:16:42.480> himself<00:16:42.779> and<00:16:43.019> on<00:16:43.139> Kali<00:16:43.500> made<00:16:43.620> but not for himself and on Kali made but not for himself and on Kali made but after<00:16:43.980> they<00:16:44.220> are<00:16:44.339> married<00:16:44.519> for<00:16:45.360> some<00:16:45.779> of<00:16:45.959> the

after they are married for some of the after they are married for some of the uh<00:16:47.220> some<00:16:47.519> of<00:16:47.579> the<00:16:47.699> Queen's<00:16:48.060> women<00:16:48.240> whom<00:16:48.600> she uh some of the Queen's women whom she uh some of the Queen's women whom she has<00:16:48.959> forbidden<00:16:49.560> to<00:16:49.800> marry has forbidden to marry

has forbidden to marry and<00:16:51.660> he<00:16:52.139> wants<00:16:52.500> to<00:16:52.620> enable<00:16:52.980> them<00:16:53.220> to<00:16:53.459> marry<00:16:53.759> and and he wants to enable them to marry and and he wants to enable them to marry and so<00:16:54.240> he<00:16:54.420> arranges<00:16:54.839> this<00:16:55.019> wedding<00:16:55.199> feast<00:16:55.620> and

so he arranges this wedding feast and so he arranges this wedding feast and invites<00:16:57.180> on<00:16:57.240> kalime<00:16:57.660> to<00:16:57.959> it<00:16:58.139> and<00:16:58.800> on<00:16:58.980> kalime<00:16:59.399> is invites on kalime to it and on kalime is

invites on kalime to it and on kalime is and<00:17:00.240> he<00:17:00.600> kind<00:17:00.720> of<00:17:00.779> uses<00:17:01.079> it<00:17:01.259> to<00:17:01.620> uh<00:17:02.459> get<00:17:02.699> back<00:17:02.880> at and he kind of uses it to uh get back at

and he kind of uses it to uh get back at oncalime<00:17:03.600> for<00:17:03.959> a<00:17:04.079> lot<00:17:04.140> of<00:17:04.260> her<00:17:04.380> bitterness<00:17:04.799> and oncalime for a lot of her bitterness and oncalime for a lot of her bitterness and spitefulness<00:17:05.520> towards<00:17:05.880> him spitefulness towards him

spitefulness towards him and<00:17:07.559> it<00:17:07.679> ends<00:17:07.860> with<00:17:07.980> this<00:17:08.100> ominous<00:17:08.520> line<00:17:08.699> thus and it ends with this ominous line thus and it ends with this ominous line thus he<00:17:09.419> was<00:17:09.600> revenged<00:17:10.079> for<00:17:10.319> she<00:17:10.559> came<00:17:10.740> Never<00:17:10.919> Back

he was revenged for she came Never Back he was revenged for she came Never Back To<00:17:11.400> emerie<00:17:12.000> Where<00:17:12.600> the<00:17:12.720> very<00:17:12.839> sheep<00:17:13.199> seemed<00:17:13.500> to To emerie Where the very sheep seemed to To emerie Where the very sheep seemed to make<00:17:13.679> scorn<00:17:14.040> of<00:17:14.220> her<00:17:14.400> but<00:17:15.120> she<00:17:15.360> pursued

make scorn of her but she pursued make scorn of her but she pursued halakar<00:17:16.439> with<00:17:16.740> hatred<00:17:17.160> afterwards halakar with hatred afterwards halakar with hatred afterwards again<00:17:19.679> another<00:17:20.100> generation<00:17:20.520> of<00:17:20.699> numenorean again another generation of numenorean

again another generation of numenorean rulers<00:17:21.720> is<00:17:22.140> raised<00:17:22.500> by<00:17:22.679> parents<00:17:23.040> with rulers is raised by parents with rulers is raised by parents with bitterness<00:17:23.699> and<00:17:23.880> hatred<00:17:24.179> towards<00:17:24.600> one bitterness and hatred towards one bitterness and hatred towards one another another

another this<00:17:26.520> can't<00:17:26.640> be<00:17:26.880> good<00:17:27.059> for<00:17:27.299> the<00:17:27.419> long-term this can't be good for the long-term this can't be good for the long-term health<00:17:28.020> of<00:17:28.319> numenor health of numenor

health of numenor you<00:17:30.059> know<00:17:30.380> it's<00:17:31.380> really<00:17:31.559> going<00:17:31.799> you<00:17:32.100> know<00:17:32.160> you you know it's really going you know you you know it's really going you know you think<00:17:32.460> about<00:17:32.580> the<00:17:33.000> first<00:17:33.179> several<00:17:33.840> uh think about the first several uh

think about the first several uh generations<00:17:35.280> of<00:17:35.580> kings<00:17:35.820> of<00:17:36.059> numenor<00:17:36.600> and<00:17:37.020> we generations of kings of numenor and we generations of kings of numenor and we didn't<00:17:37.500> get<00:17:37.679> any<00:17:37.799> note<00:17:38.039> that<00:17:38.280> they<00:17:38.400> had didn't get any note that they had

didn't get any note that they had unhappy<00:17:39.059> marriages<00:17:39.360> that<00:17:39.720> they<00:17:39.900> you<00:17:40.200> know unhappy marriages that they you know unhappy marriages that they you know that<00:17:40.620> they<00:17:40.860> were<00:17:41.360> uh<00:17:42.360> in<00:17:42.780> marriages<00:17:43.080> that that they were uh in marriages that

that they were uh in marriages that resulted<00:17:44.220> in<00:17:44.400> this<00:17:44.580> same<00:17:44.700> kind<00:17:44.880> of<00:17:44.940> bitterness resulted in this same kind of bitterness resulted in this same kind of bitterness so<00:17:45.780> it's<00:17:45.900> you<00:17:46.140> know<00:17:46.200> even<00:17:46.380> with<00:17:46.679> Tarman<00:17:47.280> Eldor

so it's you know even with Tarman Eldor so it's you know even with Tarman Eldor and<00:17:48.900> his<00:17:49.200> wife<00:17:49.380> they<00:17:49.980> seem<00:17:50.220> to<00:17:50.340> be<00:17:50.520> every and his wife they seem to be every and his wife they seem to be every indication<00:17:51.360> we<00:17:51.539> have<00:17:51.660> is<00:17:51.780> that<00:17:51.960> they<00:17:52.080> were

indication we have is that they were indication we have is that they were happy<00:17:52.440> in<00:17:52.860> their<00:17:53.039> marriage<00:17:53.280> together<00:17:53.460> they happy in their marriage together they happy in their marriage together they both<00:17:54.120> accepted<00:17:54.840> their<00:17:55.020> roles<00:17:55.460> and<00:17:56.460> that<00:17:57.000> they both accepted their roles and that they

both accepted their roles and that they were<00:17:57.419> they<00:17:57.720> were<00:17:57.900> very<00:17:58.080> happy<00:17:58.200> with<00:17:58.500> it<00:17:58.620> and<00:17:58.740> we were they were very happy with it and we were they were very happy with it and we have<00:17:58.980> no<00:17:59.160> notes<00:17:59.520> that<00:17:59.700> say<00:17:59.880> otherwise<00:18:00.240> about

have no notes that say otherwise about have no notes that say otherwise about the<00:18:00.660> kings<00:18:00.900> that<00:18:01.080> came<00:18:01.200> before the kings that came before the kings that came before but<00:18:03.000> starting<00:18:03.179> with<00:18:03.419> aldarian<00:18:03.960> and<00:18:04.140> norendes but starting with aldarian and norendes

but starting with aldarian and norendes things<00:18:05.160> get<00:18:05.520> bitter<00:18:06.419> ugly<00:18:06.600> nasty<00:18:07.320> and<00:18:08.039> you things get bitter ugly nasty and you things get bitter ugly nasty and you know<00:18:08.580> that<00:18:08.820> has<00:18:09.000> to<00:18:09.179> have<00:18:09.360> an<00:18:09.480> effect<00:18:09.660> on know that has to have an effect on

know that has to have an effect on onkalime<00:18:10.799> their<00:18:11.160> child<00:18:11.340> right onkalime their child right onkalime their child right um that<00:18:13.320> has<00:18:13.500> to um that has to um that has to do<00:18:15.360> something<00:18:15.600> to<00:18:15.960> her<00:18:16.140> psyche<00:18:16.620> as<00:18:17.280> she<00:18:17.520> grows do something to her psyche as she grows

do something to her psyche as she grows out<00:18:17.940> to<00:18:18.120> become<00:18:18.419> the<00:18:18.720> the<00:18:19.020> queen<00:18:19.380> of<00:18:19.620> numenor out to become the the queen of numenor out to become the the queen of numenor later<00:18:20.520> on later on

later on how<00:18:22.260> she'll<00:18:22.620> rule<00:18:22.980> the<00:18:23.700> policies<00:18:24.179> she'll<00:18:24.480> set how she'll rule the policies she'll set how she'll rule the policies she'll set the<00:18:26.039> way<00:18:26.160> she'll<00:18:26.520> treat<00:18:26.700> the<00:18:27.000> people<00:18:27.179> who<00:18:27.539> are the way she'll treat the people who are

the way she'll treat the people who are closest<00:18:27.900> to<00:18:28.380> her<00:18:28.559> and<00:18:29.460> all<00:18:29.640> of<00:18:29.700> those<00:18:29.880> things closest to her and all of those things closest to her and all of those things will<00:18:30.299> Ripple<00:18:30.720> out<00:18:30.900> into<00:18:31.860> the<00:18:32.340> culture<00:18:32.640> of will Ripple out into the culture of

will Ripple out into the culture of numenor<00:18:33.840> so<00:18:34.320> in<00:18:34.440> a<00:18:34.620> way<00:18:34.740> you<00:18:35.220> know<00:18:35.280> it's<00:18:35.520> almost numenor so in a way you know it's almost numenor so in a way you know it's almost like<00:18:36.059> aldarian<00:18:36.960> and<00:18:37.200> horrendous<00:18:37.559> and<00:18:37.799> their like aldarian and horrendous and their

like aldarian and horrendous and their relationship<00:18:38.340> maybe<00:18:38.940> is<00:18:39.179> this<00:18:39.480> first<00:18:39.780> Shadow relationship maybe is this first Shadow relationship maybe is this first Shadow over<00:18:41.580> the<00:18:42.240> people<00:18:42.360> of<00:18:42.600> numenor over the people of numenor

over the people of numenor and<00:18:44.280> it's<00:18:44.400> really<00:18:44.580> tragic<00:18:45.000> that<00:18:45.299> it<00:18:45.539> then and it's really tragic that it then and it's really tragic that it then continues<00:18:46.559> into<00:18:47.039> on<00:18:47.400> Kali<00:18:47.820> Mae's continues into on Kali Mae's

continues into on Kali Mae's relationship<00:18:48.600> with<00:18:48.840> her<00:18:49.140> husband<00:18:49.320> halakar relationship with her husband halakar relationship with her husband halakar another<00:18:52.020> kind<00:18:52.440> of<00:18:52.500> Greater<00:18:52.919> shadow<00:18:53.220> cast<00:18:53.640> over another kind of Greater shadow cast over

another kind of Greater shadow cast over them<00:18:54.500> and<00:18:55.520> it's<00:18:56.520> perhaps<00:18:56.880> perpetuated<00:18:57.539> down them and it's perhaps perpetuated down them and it's perhaps perpetuated down through<00:18:58.020> the<00:18:58.200> generations<00:18:58.620> right<00:18:59.660> I'll<00:19:00.660> be through the generations right I'll be

through the generations right I'll be surprised<00:19:01.260> if<00:19:01.500> anarian<00:19:02.220> the<00:19:02.940> this<00:19:03.539> the<00:19:04.080> son<00:19:04.380> of surprised if anarian the this the son of surprised if anarian the this the son of ankalime<00:19:05.400> is<00:19:06.000> not<00:19:06.179> somehow<00:19:06.419> affected<00:19:06.900> by<00:19:07.020> this

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and if it doesn't somehow play out in his<00:19:09.539> policies<00:19:10.020> in<00:19:10.559> the<00:19:10.740> life<00:19:10.860> he<00:19:11.039> leads<00:19:11.340> and his policies in the life he leads and his policies in the life he leads and the<00:19:11.580> way<00:19:11.700> he<00:19:11.880> rules the way he rules

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reverberations and Echoes down through the<00:19:22.320> generations<00:19:22.940> uh<00:19:23.940> through<00:19:24.179> later the generations uh through later the generations uh through later generations<00:19:24.900> that<00:19:25.320> follow generations that follow

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don't think it's insignificant these don't think it's insignificant these details<00:19:31.320> are<00:19:31.440> instantly<00:19:31.919> and<00:19:32.039> Tolkien<00:19:32.400> never details are instantly and Tolkien never details are instantly and Tolkien never wrote<00:19:32.700> that<00:19:32.940> way<00:19:33.059> in<00:19:33.299> the<00:19:33.480> first<00:19:33.600> place<00:19:33.840> and

wrote that way in the first place and wrote that way in the first place and second<00:19:34.799> of<00:19:35.039> all<00:19:35.220> if<00:19:35.700> you<00:19:35.820> know<00:19:35.940> the<00:19:36.120> end<00:19:36.240> of<00:19:36.419> the second of all if you know the end of the

second of all if you know the end of the story<00:19:36.600> of<00:19:36.840> numenor<00:19:37.320> you<00:19:37.860> can<00:19:37.919> maybe<00:19:38.039> see<00:19:38.400> how story of numenor you can maybe see how story of numenor you can maybe see how this<00:19:38.820> is<00:19:38.940> sewing<00:19:39.360> uh<00:19:40.140> you<00:19:40.260> know<00:19:40.380> sewing<00:19:40.679> these

this is sewing uh you know sewing these this is sewing uh you know sewing these early<00:19:41.039> seeds<00:19:41.520> but<00:19:41.820> you<00:19:42.539> know<00:19:42.600> a<00:19:42.960> little<00:19:43.080> more early seeds but you know a little more

early seeds but you know a little more on<00:19:43.380> that<00:19:43.500> in<00:19:43.679> just<00:19:43.860> a<00:19:43.980> moment<00:19:44.100> but<00:19:44.340> let's<00:19:44.460> let's on that in just a moment but let's let's on that in just a moment but let's let's read<00:19:44.940> about<00:19:45.120> how<00:19:46.020> let's<00:19:46.380> read<00:19:46.620> about<00:19:46.740> this

read about how let's read about this read about how let's read about this final<00:19:47.160> word<00:19:47.400> on<00:19:47.760> erindus<00:19:48.419> here<00:19:48.660> towards<00:19:49.140> the final word on erindus here towards the final word on erindus here towards the end<00:19:49.380> of<00:19:49.559> the<00:19:49.620> chapter all<00:19:54.059> right all right

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Came Upon her neglected by ankali Mei and<00:19:59.640> in<00:19:59.760> better<00:19:59.880> loneliness<00:20:00.419> she<00:20:01.140> longed<00:20:01.440> once and in better loneliness she longed once and in better loneliness she longed once more<00:20:01.919> for<00:20:02.160> adalarian<00:20:02.880> for<00:20:03.600> aldarian<00:20:04.320> and more for adalarian for aldarian and

more for adalarian for aldarian and learning<00:20:04.799> that<00:20:04.919> he<00:20:05.100> was<00:20:05.160> gone<00:20:05.340> from<00:20:05.580> numenor learning that he was gone from numenor learning that he was gone from numenor on<00:20:06.299> what<00:20:06.419> proved<00:20:06.660> to<00:20:06.780> be<00:20:06.900> his<00:20:07.140> last<00:20:07.320> Voyage<00:20:07.740> but

on what proved to be his last Voyage but on what proved to be his last Voyage but that<00:20:08.400> he<00:20:08.580> was<00:20:08.700> soon<00:20:08.820> expected<00:20:09.299> to<00:20:09.480> return<00:20:09.660> she that he was soon expected to return she that he was soon expected to return she left<00:20:10.620> Emery<00:20:11.100> at<00:20:11.640> last<00:20:11.820> and<00:20:12.000> journeyed

left Emery at last and journeyed left Emery at last and journeyed unrecognized<00:20:13.140> and<00:20:13.320> unknown<00:20:13.679> to<00:20:13.980> The<00:20:14.039> Haven<00:20:14.400> of unrecognized and unknown to The Haven of unrecognized and unknown to The Haven of romena romena

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the words erindus perished in water in the<00:20:20.640> year<00:20:20.760> 985<00:20:21.419> remained<00:20:22.020> to<00:20:22.140> suggest<00:20:22.380> how<00:20:22.620> it the year 985 remained to suggest how it the year 985 remained to suggest how it came<00:20:22.980> to<00:20:23.100> pass came to pass

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erendus had once said that the women became<00:20:29.280> a<00:20:29.460> kind<00:20:29.580> of<00:20:29.760> imitation<00:20:30.120> elves<00:20:30.600> and became a kind of imitation elves and became a kind of imitation elves and their<00:20:31.320> men<00:20:31.440> had<00:20:31.679> so<00:20:31.919> much<00:20:32.039> in<00:20:32.220> their<00:20:32.340> heads<00:20:32.640> and

their men had so much in their heads and their men had so much in their heads and desire<00:20:33.059> of<00:20:33.240> doing<00:20:33.480> that<00:20:33.780> they<00:20:33.960> ever<00:20:34.080> felt<00:20:34.440> the desire of doing that they ever felt the

desire of doing that they ever felt the pressure<00:20:34.740> of<00:20:35.039> time<00:20:35.280> and<00:20:36.000> so<00:20:36.120> seldom<00:20:36.539> rested<00:20:36.900> or pressure of time and so seldom rested or pressure of time and so seldom rested or rejoiced<00:20:37.500> in<00:20:37.620> the<00:20:37.740> present rejoiced in the present

rejoiced in the present fortunately<00:20:39.299> their<00:20:39.660> wives<00:20:39.840> were<00:20:40.140> cool<00:20:40.320> and fortunately their wives were cool and fortunately their wives were cool and busy<00:20:40.980> but<00:20:41.580> numenor<00:20:42.120> was<00:20:42.299> no<00:20:42.480> place<00:20:42.720> for<00:20:43.080> great busy but numenor was no place for great

busy but numenor was no place for great love love love I<00:20:44.760> mean<00:20:44.880> that<00:20:45.000> really<00:20:45.179> just<00:20:45.360> does<00:20:45.480> such<00:20:45.660> a I mean that really just does such a

I mean that really just does such a great<00:20:45.900> job<00:20:46.080> of<00:20:46.260> summing<00:20:46.559> it<00:20:46.620> all<00:20:46.740> up<00:20:46.919> you<00:20:47.220> know great job of summing it all up you know great job of summing it all up you know I<00:20:47.820> mean<00:20:48.059> obviously<00:20:48.360> let's<00:20:48.480> make<00:20:48.720> explicit<00:20:49.140> it

I mean obviously let's make explicit it I mean obviously let's make explicit it does<00:20:49.559> sound<00:20:49.799> like does sound like does sound like um erindus<00:20:51.480> most<00:20:51.900> likely<00:20:52.320> uh<00:20:53.220> committed um erindus most likely uh committed

um erindus most likely uh committed suicide<00:20:54.059> in<00:20:54.360> the<00:20:54.480> year<00:20:54.539> 985<00:20:55.140> it<00:20:55.440> doesn't<00:20:55.559> say suicide in the year 985 it doesn't say suicide in the year 985 it doesn't say that<00:20:55.980> explicitly<00:20:56.580> just<00:20:57.120> says<00:20:57.419> she<00:20:57.539> perished that explicitly just says she perished

that explicitly just says she perished in<00:20:58.020> water<00:20:58.200> but<00:20:58.799> that's<00:20:59.039> at<00:20:59.220> least<00:20:59.340> the<00:20:59.460> way<00:20:59.580> I in water but that's at least the way I in water but that's at least the way I read<00:20:59.820> it<00:21:00.000> it<00:21:00.120> would<00:21:00.240> not<00:21:00.360> be<00:21:00.539> surprising<00:21:00.960> to

read it it would not be surprising to read it it would not be surprising to find<00:21:01.380> that<00:21:01.620> right<00:21:01.860> you<00:21:02.640> know<00:21:02.700> surrendering find that right you know surrendering find that right you know surrendering and<00:21:04.020> bitterness<00:21:04.559> and<00:21:05.220> loneliness<00:21:05.960> to<00:21:06.960> you and bitterness and loneliness to you

and bitterness and loneliness to you know<00:21:07.500> her<00:21:07.919> great<00:21:08.160> foe<00:21:08.640> as<00:21:09.419> she<00:21:09.660> said<00:21:09.900> uh<00:21:10.320> in<00:21:10.559> an know her great foe as she said uh in an know her great foe as she said uh in an earlier<00:21:10.919> chapter earlier chapter

earlier chapter um<00:21:12.419> the<00:21:12.900> winning<00:21:13.080> right<00:21:13.440> the<00:21:13.679> lady<00:21:13.860> of<00:21:14.039> the<00:21:14.220> sea um the winning right the lady of the sea um the winning right the lady of the sea right<00:21:14.880> who<00:21:15.240> she<00:21:15.539> really<00:21:15.900> probably<00:21:16.140> feels<00:21:16.620> like

right who she really probably feels like right who she really probably feels like she<00:21:16.980> lost<00:21:17.160> her<00:21:17.460> chance<00:21:17.640> at<00:21:17.880> love<00:21:18.200> and<00:21:19.200> her she lost her chance at love and her she lost her chance at love and her husband<00:21:19.740> too husband too

husband too um<00:21:22.380> very<00:21:23.100> tragic<00:21:23.460> ending<00:21:23.940> you<00:21:24.600> know um very tragic ending you know um very tragic ending you know especially<00:21:25.559> as<00:21:25.980> it<00:21:26.160> seems<00:21:26.520> that<00:21:26.760> perhaps<00:21:27.299> she especially as it seems that perhaps she especially as it seems that perhaps she was<00:21:27.840> trying was trying

was trying to<00:21:30.419> find<00:21:30.600> some<00:21:31.020> last<00:21:31.200> reconciliation<00:21:32.039> with to find some last reconciliation with to find some last reconciliation with aldarion aldarion aldarion you<00:21:34.380> know<00:21:34.440> it's<00:21:34.980> it's<00:21:35.039> interesting<00:21:35.760> to<00:21:35.940> think you know it's it's interesting to think

you know it's it's interesting to think about<00:21:36.179> how<00:21:36.539> this<00:21:36.720> story<00:21:36.960> might<00:21:37.380> have<00:21:37.500> ended<00:21:37.860> if about how this story might have ended if about how this story might have ended if Tolkien<00:21:38.520> had<00:21:38.640> completed<00:21:39.059> it Tolkien had completed it

Tolkien had completed it there's<00:21:40.559> a<00:21:40.679> lot<00:21:40.740> of<00:21:40.860> possibility<00:21:41.159> I<00:21:41.400> think<00:21:41.460> it there's a lot of possibility I think it there's a lot of possibility I think it could<00:21:41.700> have<00:21:41.820> been<00:21:41.940> a<00:21:42.120> great<00:21:42.240> Standalone<00:21:43.080> novel could have been a great Standalone novel

could have been a great Standalone novel uh<00:21:44.280> you<00:21:44.400> know<00:21:44.520> perhaps<00:21:44.760> not<00:21:44.940> of<00:21:45.120> the<00:21:45.299> length<00:21:45.480> of uh you know perhaps not of the length of uh you know perhaps not of the length of Lord<00:21:45.780> of<00:21:45.960> the<00:21:46.080> Rings<00:21:46.260> or<00:21:47.159> even<00:21:47.460> of<00:21:47.640> the

Lord of the Rings or even of the Lord of the Rings or even of the silmarillion<00:21:48.559> uh<00:21:49.559> but<00:21:49.799> you<00:21:50.100> know<00:21:50.159> maybe<00:21:50.400> maybe silmarillion uh but you know maybe maybe

silmarillion uh but you know maybe maybe a<00:21:51.179> book<00:21:51.419> of<00:21:51.780> the<00:21:52.140> similar<00:21:52.740> link<00:21:52.980> to<00:21:53.460> what<00:21:54.059> we a book of the similar link to what we

a book of the similar link to what we now<00:21:54.360> have<00:21:54.480> of<00:21:54.720> the<00:21:54.840> children<00:21:54.900> of<00:21:55.140> who<00:21:55.700> a<00:21:56.700> lot<00:21:56.880> of now have of the children of who a lot of now have of the children of who a lot of just<00:21:57.419> possibility<00:21:58.020> with<00:21:58.380> the<00:21:58.559> various just possibility with the various

just possibility with the various stories<00:21:59.220> that<00:21:59.400> are<00:21:59.520> told<00:21:59.700> here<00:22:00.059> and<00:22:00.539> you<00:22:00.659> can stories that are told here and you can stories that are told here and you can see<00:22:01.020> the<00:22:01.320> the<00:22:01.620> you<00:22:02.280> can<00:22:02.340> kind<00:22:02.520> of<00:22:02.580> see<00:22:02.760> it

see the the you can kind of see it see the the you can kind of see it outlined<00:22:03.480> in<00:22:03.720> everything<00:22:03.960> that<00:22:04.260> Tolkien<00:22:04.799> left outlined in everything that Tolkien left outlined in everything that Tolkien left to<00:22:05.159> us<00:22:05.340> and<00:22:05.640> that<00:22:05.880> Christopher<00:22:06.360> collected<00:22:06.780> and to us and that Christopher collected and

to us and that Christopher collected and unfinished<00:22:07.380> Tales unfinished Tales unfinished Tales but<00:22:09.179> I<00:22:09.480> do<00:22:09.539> also<00:22:09.840> think<00:22:09.960> it's<00:22:10.080> worth but I do also think it's worth but I do also think it's worth highlighting<00:22:10.799> what's<00:22:11.100> said<00:22:11.280> about<00:22:11.460> in<00:22:11.880> this

highlighting what's said about in this highlighting what's said about in this last<00:22:12.240> bit<00:22:12.419> here<00:22:12.659> of<00:22:12.900> the<00:22:13.020> lifespan<00:22:13.380> granted last bit here of the lifespan granted last bit here of the lifespan granted the<00:22:13.860> numenoreans<00:22:14.400> women<00:22:15.299> become<00:22:15.659> a<00:22:15.780> kind<00:22:15.900> of

the numenoreans women become a kind of the numenoreans women become a kind of imitation<00:22:16.380> elves<00:22:16.799> while<00:22:17.039> the<00:22:17.280> men<00:22:17.400> they<00:22:17.700> still imitation elves while the men they still

imitation elves while the men they still have<00:22:18.000> like<00:22:18.299> kind<00:22:18.419> of<00:22:18.539> the<00:22:18.600> burning<00:22:18.900> desire<00:22:19.200> of have like kind of the burning desire of have like kind of the burning desire of men<00:22:19.500> like<00:22:19.740> there's<00:22:19.919> never<00:22:20.100> enough<00:22:20.280> time men like there's never enough time

men like there's never enough time something<00:22:21.120> I<00:22:21.600> feel<00:22:21.840> well<00:22:22.380> myself<00:22:23.220> and<00:22:24.120> I'm<00:22:24.299> not something I feel well myself and I'm not something I feel well myself and I'm not going<00:22:24.600> to<00:22:24.720> live<00:22:24.780> anywhere<00:22:25.500> near<00:22:26.159> to<00:22:26.460> the<00:22:26.580> uh<00:22:26.820> to

going to live anywhere near to the uh to going to live anywhere near to the uh to the<00:22:27.240> lifespan<00:22:27.600> of<00:22:27.780> a<00:22:27.960> new<00:22:28.200> of<00:22:28.440> the<00:22:28.620> line<00:22:28.679> of the lifespan of a new of the line of

the lifespan of a new of the line of elrose<00:22:29.820> but<00:22:30.299> even<00:22:30.480> with<00:22:30.780> their<00:22:31.020> much<00:22:31.260> longer elrose but even with their much longer elrose but even with their much longer lifespan<00:22:32.400> they<00:22:32.820> still<00:22:33.000> are<00:22:33.299> just<00:22:33.480> kind<00:22:33.659> of lifespan they still are just kind of

lifespan they still are just kind of like<00:22:33.900> there's<00:22:34.140> never<00:22:34.320> enough<00:22:34.559> time<00:22:34.799> there's like there's never enough time there's like there's never enough time there's never<00:22:35.460> enough<00:22:35.700> time<00:22:36.000> but<00:22:36.600> the<00:22:36.780> women<00:22:36.960> you<00:22:37.860> know never enough time but the women you know

never enough time but the women you know want<00:22:38.400> to want to want to you<00:22:39.780> know<00:22:39.900> want<00:22:40.080> to<00:22:40.260> enjoy<00:22:40.620> this<00:22:41.039> extra<00:22:41.159> time you know want to enjoy this extra time

you know want to enjoy this extra time that's<00:22:41.580> been<00:22:41.760> given<00:22:42.000> to<00:22:42.120> them<00:22:42.299> so<00:22:42.960> it<00:22:43.080> said that's been given to them so it said that's been given to them so it said they<00:22:43.500> become<00:22:43.740> a<00:22:43.860> kind<00:22:43.980> of<00:22:44.100> imitation<00:22:44.460> elves they become a kind of imitation elves

they become a kind of imitation elves right<00:22:45.120> I<00:22:45.600> I<00:22:45.780> know<00:22:46.140> what<00:22:46.320> she<00:22:46.440> means<00:22:46.740> there<00:22:46.860> I right I I know what she means there I right I I know what she means there I know<00:22:47.280> what<00:22:47.400> she<00:22:47.580> means<00:22:47.880> there know what she means there

know what she means there but<00:22:49.380> their<00:22:49.500> men<00:22:49.679> had<00:22:49.919> so<00:22:50.159> much<00:22:50.340> in<00:22:51.120> their<00:22:51.240> heads but their men had so much in their heads but their men had so much in their heads and<00:22:51.659> desire<00:22:51.900> of<00:22:52.080> doing<00:22:52.260> that<00:22:52.440> they<00:22:52.559> ever<00:22:52.679> felt

and desire of doing that they ever felt and desire of doing that they ever felt the<00:22:53.159> pressure<00:22:53.280> of<00:22:53.520> time the pressure of time the pressure of time numenor<00:22:55.440> was<00:22:55.620> no<00:22:55.860> place<00:22:56.039> for<00:22:56.340> great<00:22:56.460> love<00:22:56.640> you numenor was no place for great love you

numenor was no place for great love you know<00:22:57.059> I<00:22:57.240> mean<00:22:57.360> what<00:22:57.480> a<00:22:57.659> tragic<00:22:58.020> final<00:22:58.320> word<00:22:59.039> on know I mean what a tragic final word on know I mean what a tragic final word on you<00:23:00.299> know<00:23:00.360> this<00:23:01.080> story<00:23:01.320> and<00:23:02.039> the<00:23:02.700> nature<00:23:02.940> of

you know this story and the nature of you know this story and the nature of numenor<00:23:03.539> that<00:23:03.780> they've<00:23:04.080> been<00:23:04.200> given<00:23:04.500> this numenor that they've been given this numenor that they've been given this opportunity opportunity

opportunity in<00:23:06.780> this<00:23:06.960> land<00:23:07.260> to<00:23:08.039> dwell<00:23:08.340> and<00:23:08.640> be<00:23:08.880> happy<00:23:09.059> for<00:23:09.480> a in this land to dwell and be happy for a in this land to dwell and be happy for a much<00:23:09.780> longer<00:23:10.140> period<00:23:10.380> of<00:23:10.559> time<00:23:10.740> as<00:23:11.100> this

much longer period of time as this much longer period of time as this reward<00:23:11.760> you<00:23:12.480> know<00:23:12.539> this<00:23:12.720> beautiful<00:23:12.960> land<00:23:13.380> it reward you know this beautiful land it reward you know this beautiful land it may<00:23:14.220> not<00:23:14.340> quite<00:23:14.520> be<00:23:14.700> paradise<00:23:15.179> but<00:23:15.419> it's<00:23:15.600> as

may not quite be paradise but it's as may not quite be paradise but it's as close<00:23:15.960> as<00:23:16.080> you<00:23:16.260> can<00:23:16.380> get<00:23:16.500> to<00:23:16.620> Paradise<00:23:17.039> on close as you can get to Paradise on close as you can get to Paradise on Earth<00:23:17.400> for<00:23:17.640> men Earth for men Earth for men and and

and it's<00:23:21.299> no<00:23:21.480> place<00:23:21.659> for<00:23:21.900> great<00:23:22.080> love it's no place for great love it's no place for great love you<00:23:23.400> know<00:23:23.460> just<00:23:23.700> a<00:23:23.880> very<00:23:24.480> tragic<00:23:24.900> final<00:23:25.140> word you know just a very tragic final word

you know just a very tragic final word um<00:23:26.760> and<00:23:27.480> you<00:23:28.020> know<00:23:28.140> and<00:23:28.500> it's<00:23:28.679> one<00:23:28.980> that<00:23:29.280> will um and you know and it's one that will um and you know and it's one that will leave<00:23:29.940> the<00:23:30.120> story<00:23:30.299> of<00:23:30.539> erindus<00:23:31.140> with leave the story of erindus with

leave the story of erindus with so<00:23:32.580> I'd<00:23:32.700> summarize<00:23:33.059> the<00:23:33.240> tale<00:23:33.419> of<00:23:33.600> aldarian so I'd summarize the tale of aldarian so I'd summarize the tale of aldarian and<00:23:34.260> horrendous<00:23:34.679> by<00:23:34.980> these<00:23:35.340> key<00:23:35.760> takeaways

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transform from the land of rest and Harmony<00:23:42.960> that<00:23:43.380> it<00:23:43.500> had<00:23:43.620> been<00:23:43.740> in<00:23:43.919> its<00:23:44.159> first Harmony that it had been in its first Harmony that it had been in its first Millennium<00:23:44.700> into<00:23:45.000> a<00:23:45.240> realm<00:23:45.539> oriented<00:23:46.080> towards Millennium into a realm oriented towards

Millennium into a realm oriented towards other<00:23:46.620> realms<00:23:47.520> it<00:23:48.059> is<00:23:48.179> caught<00:23:48.299> up<00:23:48.480> in<00:23:48.600> the other realms it is caught up in the other realms it is caught up in the Affairs<00:23:49.080> of<00:23:49.200> Middle<00:23:49.320> Earth<00:23:49.559> and<00:23:49.860> will<00:23:50.039> never Affairs of Middle Earth and will never

Affairs of Middle Earth and will never be<00:23:50.400> able<00:23:50.580> to<00:23:50.700> divorce<00:23:51.179> itself<00:23:51.480> from<00:23:51.780> them be able to divorce itself from them be able to divorce itself from them again again again with<00:23:54.059> the<00:23:54.179> marriage<00:23:54.419> of<00:23:54.539> aldarian<00:23:55.080> in with the marriage of aldarian in

with the marriage of aldarian in horendis<00:23:55.860> a<00:23:56.159> certain<00:23:56.280> poison<00:23:56.580> of<00:23:56.880> bitterness horendis a certain poison of bitterness horendis a certain poison of bitterness and<00:23:57.419> regret<00:23:57.840> seems<00:23:58.140> to<00:23:58.260> enter<00:23:58.380> into<00:23:58.620> the<00:23:58.799> line and regret seems to enter into the line

and regret seems to enter into the line of<00:23:59.159> numenor's<00:23:59.700> kings<00:23:59.880> and<00:24:00.059> queens<00:24:00.299> as<00:24:00.539> well of numenor's kings and queens as well of numenor's kings and queens as well there<00:24:01.799> seemed<00:24:02.039> they<00:24:02.220> seem<00:24:02.400> to<00:24:02.520> be<00:24:02.580> jaded there seemed they seem to be jaded

there seemed they seem to be jaded against<00:24:03.120> the<00:24:03.360> notion<00:24:03.659> of<00:24:03.840> Happiness<00:24:04.320> the against the notion of Happiness the against the notion of Happiness the original<00:24:05.039> promise<00:24:05.580> inherent<00:24:06.059> in<00:24:06.240> numenor's original promise inherent in numenor's original promise inherent in numenor's founding founding

founding as<00:24:08.220> a<00:24:08.340> consequence<00:24:08.760> their<00:24:09.059> hearts<00:24:09.299> become as a consequence their hearts become as a consequence their hearts become restless<00:24:09.960> and<00:24:10.919> that<00:24:11.100> is<00:24:11.280> perhaps<00:24:11.640> a<00:24:11.820> seed<00:24:12.120> of restless and that is perhaps a seed of

restless and that is perhaps a seed of numenor's<00:24:12.900> eventual<00:24:13.440> undoing numenor's eventual undoing numenor's eventual undoing next<00:24:16.260> time<00:24:16.380> we'll<00:24:16.559> catch<00:24:16.860> up<00:24:16.919> with<00:24:17.039> events<00:24:17.460> in next time we'll catch up with events in

next time we'll catch up with events in Middle<00:24:17.700> Earth<00:24:17.940> including<00:24:18.480> an<00:24:18.659> update<00:24:18.960> on Middle Earth including an update on Middle Earth including an update on sauron's<00:24:19.860> doings<00:24:20.159> around<00:24:20.460> this<00:24:20.700> time sauron's doings around this time

sauron's doings around this time now<00:24:23.159> that's<00:24:23.280> about<00:24:23.460> it<00:24:23.640> for<00:24:23.820> this<00:24:23.940> episode now that's about it for this episode now that's about it for this episode please<00:24:24.600> keep<00:24:24.840> the<00:24:24.960> correspondence<00:24:25.440> coming please keep the correspondence coming

please keep the correspondence coming we'll<00:24:25.860> do<00:24:25.980> our<00:24:26.100> best<00:24:26.280> to<00:24:26.460> respond<00:24:26.760> to<00:24:26.940> you we'll do our best to respond to you we'll do our best to respond to you somehow<00:24:27.419> and<00:24:27.600> at<00:24:27.780> some<00:24:27.960> point somehow and at some point

somehow and at some point and<00:24:29.460> I'd<00:24:29.580> like<00:24:29.760> to<00:24:29.820> give<00:24:30.000> a<00:24:30.179> shout<00:24:30.539> out<00:24:30.600> to<00:24:31.140> our and I'd like to give a shout out to our and I'd like to give a shout out to our amazing<00:24:31.620> patrons<00:24:32.039> especially<00:24:32.520> the<00:24:32.760> following amazing patrons especially the following

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all right thank you all so much thank all right thank you all so much thank you<00:25:06.780> to<00:25:07.080> our<00:25:07.380> amazing<00:25:07.679> Fellowship<00:25:08.159> we<00:25:08.520> really you to our amazing Fellowship we really you to our amazing Fellowship we really appreciate<00:25:09.059> you<00:25:09.240> and<00:25:09.539> thanks<00:25:09.659> to<00:25:09.840> everybody appreciate you and thanks to everybody

appreciate you and thanks to everybody for<00:25:10.380> watching<00:25:10.679> and<00:25:10.919> or<00:25:11.159> listening<00:25:11.700> we<00:25:12.419> will for watching and or listening we will for watching and or listening we will talk<00:25:12.720> at<00:25:12.960> you<00:25:13.080> next<00:25:13.260> time<00:25:13.440> bye-bye

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