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0340 » The Fall of Númenor Pt 15 » SA800 » Aldarion & Erendis » Uinen, Ossë, Tar-Meneldur

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Over the next 3 episodes in our Fall of Númenor series, we’ll return to the story of Aldarion, whom we met 2 episodes ago. Aldarion is the son of Tar-Meneldur and the expectant heir to Númenor's throne. But as we will learn, he is a man torn between a deep longing for the sea and his destiny as Númenor’s king. We have in fact covered this story before, in great detail, in episodes 183, 185, 186, and 187. For a more detailed discussion of the story itself, I’ll refer you to to those episodes. Check the show notes for more info. However, in this episode, I’d like to touch on some of the prevailing themes in this story that relate to the larger story of Númenor, and unpack some key passages from this chapter.
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little Isle in the Bay of romena that little Isle in the Bay of romena that was<00:03:19.260> set<00:03:19.379> there<00:03:19.620> by<00:03:19.860> unin<00:03:20.340> the<00:03:20.519> lady<00:03:20.640> of<00:03:20.879> the was set there by unin the lady of the was set there by unin the lady of the Seas Seas

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venturers and there were kept the records<00:03:26.400> of<00:03:26.519> their<00:03:26.700> great<00:03:26.879> voyages records of their great voyages records of their great voyages looked<00:03:29.819> coldly<00:03:30.120> on<00:03:30.300> the<00:03:30.420> Enterprises<00:03:30.840> of<00:03:31.019> his looked coldly on the Enterprises of his

looked coldly on the Enterprises of his son<00:03:31.379> and<00:03:31.920> cared<00:03:32.280> not<00:03:32.400> to<00:03:32.580> hear<00:03:32.700> the<00:03:32.879> tale<00:03:33.000> of son and cared not to hear the tale of son and cared not to hear the tale of his<00:03:33.360> journeys<00:03:33.780> believing<00:03:34.560> that<00:03:34.680> he<00:03:34.860> sowed<00:03:35.159> the

his journeys believing that he sowed the his journeys believing that he sowed the seeds<00:03:35.519> of<00:03:35.640> restlessness<00:03:36.180> and<00:03:36.480> the<00:03:36.599> desire<00:03:36.840> of seeds of restlessness and the desire of seeds of restlessness and the desire of other<00:03:37.200> lands<00:03:37.680> to<00:03:37.860> hold other lands to hold

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his son's interest in the sea well he believed<00:03:45.780> that<00:03:45.959> it<00:03:46.140> sowed<00:03:46.500> the<00:03:46.620> seeds<00:03:46.920> of believed that it sowed the seeds of believed that it sowed the seeds of restlessness<00:03:47.640> and<00:03:47.940> the<00:03:48.060> desire<00:03:48.360> of<00:03:48.599> other restlessness and the desire of other

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numenores I've studied the topic of numenor<00:03:56.220> and<00:03:56.580> how<00:03:56.819> it<00:03:57.060> really<00:03:57.360> fits<00:03:57.720> into<00:03:57.840> the numenor and how it really fits into the numenor and how it really fits into the overall<00:03:58.620> scheme<00:03:59.099> of<00:03:59.519> middle<00:03:59.819> Earth's<00:04:00.239> history overall scheme of middle Earth's history

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there's this tension with numenor because<00:04:05.400> it's<00:04:05.519> his<00:04:05.760> Island<00:04:05.940> Paradise<00:04:06.540> that's because it's his Island Paradise that's because it's his Island Paradise that's given<00:04:07.080> to<00:04:07.200> this<00:04:07.379> people<00:04:07.560> as<00:04:07.860> a<00:04:08.040> reward<00:04:08.340> to given to this people as a reward to

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their service and overthrowing morgoth in<00:04:13.680> the<00:04:13.860> first<00:04:13.920> age in the first age in the first age however however however it's<00:04:18.180> clear<00:04:18.419> that<00:04:18.840> men<00:04:19.139> no<00:04:19.919> matter<00:04:20.100> how<00:04:20.639> long it's clear that men no matter how long

it's clear that men no matter how long they<00:04:21.060> live<00:04:21.239> are<00:04:21.600> not<00:04:21.840> really<00:04:22.079> made<00:04:22.440> for<00:04:23.040> this they live are not really made for this they live are not really made for this world<00:04:23.460> not<00:04:23.820> in<00:04:23.940> a<00:04:24.120> final<00:04:24.240> sense<00:04:24.600> they're<00:04:25.440> not

world not in a final sense they're not world not in a final sense they're not meant<00:04:25.860> to<00:04:25.979> find<00:04:26.160> their<00:04:26.460> complete<00:04:26.880> and<00:04:27.000> utter meant to find their complete and utter meant to find their complete and utter enjoyment<00:04:27.780> in<00:04:28.080> this<00:04:28.259> world<00:04:28.440> and<00:04:29.340> so<00:04:29.520> you<00:04:29.699> have

enjoyment in this world and so you have enjoyment in this world and so you have this<00:04:29.940> tension<00:04:30.300> that<00:04:30.540> grows<00:04:30.840> because<00:04:31.020> they this tension that grows because they this tension that grows because they have<00:04:31.380> this<00:04:31.560> island<00:04:31.740> paradise<00:04:32.400> really<00:04:32.699> the have this island paradise really the

have this island paradise really the closest<00:04:33.000> thing<00:04:33.300> to<00:04:33.479> a<00:04:33.600> paradise<00:04:33.960> that<00:04:34.199> Mortals closest thing to a paradise that Mortals closest thing to a paradise that Mortals are<00:04:34.740> able<00:04:34.919> to<00:04:35.100> achieve<00:04:35.520> in<00:04:36.419> this<00:04:36.540> world are able to achieve in this world

are able to achieve in this world but<00:04:37.979> they<00:04:38.820> have<00:04:39.000> a<00:04:39.180> desire<00:04:39.479> some<00:04:39.840> of<00:04:39.960> them<00:04:40.020> at but they have a desire some of them at but they have a desire some of them at least<00:04:40.320> have<00:04:40.560> a<00:04:40.680> desire<00:04:40.979> also<00:04:41.460> to<00:04:41.880> explore

least have a desire also to explore least have a desire also to explore other<00:04:43.020> places<00:04:43.259> to<00:04:43.620> go<00:04:43.800> back<00:04:43.919> to<00:04:44.100> other<00:04:44.280> places other places to go back to other places other places to go back to other places they<00:04:45.419> can't<00:04:45.600> simply<00:04:46.020> be<00:04:46.259> content<00:04:46.680> with<00:04:47.160> this

they can't simply be content with this they can't simply be content with this paradise<00:04:47.880> that<00:04:48.120> they<00:04:48.300> have<00:04:48.419> right<00:04:48.780> here paradise that they have right here paradise that they have right here and<00:04:50.400> I<00:04:50.580> don't<00:04:50.699> know<00:04:50.759> that<00:04:50.940> we're<00:04:51.060> necessarily and I don't know that we're necessarily

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meant to say whether that's a good thing or<00:04:53.220> a<00:04:53.340> bad<00:04:53.520> thing<00:04:53.699> like<00:04:54.060> in<00:04:54.180> a<00:04:54.360> final<00:04:54.479> sense or a bad thing like in a final sense or a bad thing like in a final sense that<00:04:54.960> we're<00:04:55.139> that<00:04:55.380> we're<00:04:55.620> meant<00:04:55.979> to<00:04:56.100> make<00:04:56.520> some

that we're that we're meant to make some that we're that we're meant to make some kind<00:04:56.940> of<00:04:57.060> moral<00:04:57.419> judgment<00:04:57.780> upon<00:04:58.320> that<00:04:59.280> draw kind of moral judgment upon that draw kind of moral judgment upon that draw away<00:04:59.759> from<00:05:00.000> numenor away from numenor

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and I think this is really Illuminating because<00:05:05.460> he<00:05:05.820> says<00:05:06.120> it<00:05:06.780> sowed<00:05:07.139> the<00:05:07.259> seeds<00:05:07.500> of because he says it sowed the seeds of because he says it sowed the seeds of restlessness<00:05:08.160> and<00:05:08.460> the<00:05:08.580> desire<00:05:08.820> of<00:05:09.060> other restlessness and the desire of other

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put in put in this context within the put in put in this context within the story<00:05:21.419> of<00:05:21.660> Middle<00:05:21.780> Earth story of Middle Earth story of Middle Earth it's<00:05:23.699> it<00:05:24.000> really<00:05:24.240> should<00:05:24.419> allude<00:05:24.780> to<00:05:25.080> things it's it really should allude to things

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original sin of Middle Earth so when we see<00:05:41.820> those<00:05:42.060> terms<00:05:42.360> we<00:05:42.600> understand<00:05:42.800> mental see those terms we understand mental see those terms we understand mental doors<00:05:44.160> fear<00:05:44.460> here<00:05:44.580> he<00:05:45.180> believes<00:05:45.479> that<00:05:45.720> his<00:05:45.960> son doors fear here he believes that his son

doors fear here he believes that his son in<00:05:46.560> being<00:05:46.800> drawn<00:05:47.100> to<00:05:47.280> the<00:05:47.400> Sea<00:05:47.639> and<00:05:47.820> Drawn<00:05:48.180> to in being drawn to the Sea and Drawn to in being drawn to the Sea and Drawn to exploring<00:05:48.780> other<00:05:49.080> lands<00:05:49.440> that<00:05:49.620> are<00:05:49.800> far<00:05:49.919> away

exploring other lands that are far away exploring other lands that are far away is<00:05:50.820> going<00:05:51.000> to<00:05:51.120> start<00:05:51.300> is<00:05:51.600> going<00:05:51.780> to<00:05:51.900> begin<00:05:52.080> to is going to start is going to begin to

is going to start is going to begin to desire<00:05:52.740> to<00:05:53.100> hold<00:05:53.280> those<00:05:53.520> other<00:05:53.699> lands<00:05:54.180> and<00:05:54.600> so desire to hold those other lands and so desire to hold those other lands and so introduce<00:05:55.199> that<00:05:55.500> original<00:05:55.740> sin<00:05:56.220> right<00:05:56.880> of<00:05:57.120> the

introduce that original sin right of the introduce that original sin right of the rest<00:05:57.360> of<00:05:57.479> Middle<00:05:57.660> Earth<00:05:57.900> back<00:05:58.620> into<00:05:58.800> this rest of Middle Earth back into this rest of Middle Earth back into this island<00:05:59.400> paradise<00:06:00.060> that<00:06:00.300> they've<00:06:00.539> had<00:06:00.780> now<00:06:01.199> for

island paradise that they've had now for island paradise that they've had now for several<00:06:01.860> hundred<00:06:02.160> years several hundred years several hundred years ultimately<00:06:04.500> the<00:06:04.919> result<00:06:05.100> is<00:06:05.460> estrangement ultimately the result is estrangement ultimately the result is estrangement between<00:06:06.240> Father<00:06:06.600> and<00:06:06.900> Son between Father and Son

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sure we pay attention to is the role sure we pay attention to is the role that<00:06:13.139> when<00:06:13.620> in<00:06:13.860> the<00:06:14.220> late<00:06:14.340> uh<00:06:14.759> the<00:06:14.940> lady<00:06:15.060> of<00:06:15.300> the that when in the late uh the lady of the

that when in the late uh the lady of the sea<00:06:15.600> plays<00:06:16.020> with<00:06:16.199> regard<00:06:16.440> to<00:06:16.560> numenor<00:06:17.039> and sea plays with regard to numenor and sea plays with regard to numenor and with<00:06:17.520> regard<00:06:17.759> to<00:06:18.000> the<00:06:18.300> overall<00:06:18.660> story<00:06:18.840> of with regard to the overall story of

with regard to the overall story of numenor<00:06:19.500> and<00:06:19.800> this<00:06:20.100> story numenor and this story numenor and this story so<00:06:21.360> from<00:06:21.539> valicuenta<00:06:22.380> we<00:06:22.919> learned<00:06:23.160> that so from valicuenta we learned that

so from valicuenta we learned that uwinin<00:06:23.880> is<00:06:24.180> the<00:06:24.539> spouse<00:06:24.900> of<00:06:25.440> the<00:06:25.800> Maya<00:06:26.479> assay uwinin is the spouse of the Maya assay uwinin is the spouse of the Maya assay so<00:06:28.199> she<00:06:28.380> is<00:06:28.500> Amaya<00:06:29.039> herself<00:06:29.400> right<00:06:29.759> so<00:06:29.940> she's<00:06:30.120> a

so she is Amaya herself right so she's a so she is Amaya herself right so she's a goddess<00:06:30.600> right<00:06:30.840> she's<00:06:31.139> she's<00:06:31.500> not<00:06:31.740> quite<00:06:31.919> on goddess right she's she's not quite on

goddess right she's she's not quite on the<00:06:32.220> level<00:06:32.400> of<00:06:32.819> the<00:06:33.300> Valar<00:06:33.720> in<00:06:34.139> terms<00:06:34.319> of<00:06:34.440> you the level of the Valar in terms of you the level of the Valar in terms of you know<00:06:35.039> their<00:06:35.460> Divinity<00:06:35.880> but<00:06:36.479> she's<00:06:36.660> one<00:06:36.960> of<00:06:37.080> the

know their Divinity but she's one of the know their Divinity but she's one of the she's<00:06:37.500> one<00:06:37.740> of<00:06:37.860> the<00:06:37.919> Lesser<00:06:38.220> Gods<00:06:38.520> one<00:06:38.639> of<00:06:38.759> the she's one of the Lesser Gods one of the

she's one of the Lesser Gods one of the greater<00:06:39.120> lesser<00:06:39.479> Gods<00:06:39.840> if<00:06:39.960> you<00:06:40.080> will<00:06:40.259> right<00:06:40.680> so greater lesser Gods if you will right so greater lesser Gods if you will right so she<00:06:41.699> is<00:06:41.819> a<00:06:41.940> goddess<00:06:42.300> and<00:06:43.020> so<00:06:43.139> from<00:06:43.380> valacuenta

she is a goddess and so from valacuenta she is a goddess and so from valacuenta it<00:06:44.220> says<00:06:44.520> to<00:06:45.120> her<00:06:45.300> Mariners<00:06:45.840> cry<00:06:46.020> for<00:06:46.319> she<00:06:46.500> can it says to her Mariners cry for she can

it says to her Mariners cry for she can lay<00:06:46.800> calm<00:06:47.220> upon<00:06:47.460> the<00:06:47.580> waves<00:06:47.880> restraining<00:06:48.419> the lay calm upon the waves restraining the lay calm upon the waves restraining the wildness<00:06:48.900> of<00:06:49.139> assay wildness of assay

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him to the service of omo so you<00:07:02.940> know<00:07:03.000> it's<00:07:03.120> really<00:07:03.360> important<00:07:03.660> to you know it's really important to you know it's really important to understand<00:07:03.960> that<00:07:04.380> it<00:07:04.560> went<00:07:04.740> in<00:07:04.919> is<00:07:05.220> very<00:07:05.400> dear understand that it went in is very dear

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hold her uh you know in a reverence that's<00:07:11.160> equal<00:07:11.460> to<00:07:12.120> uh<00:07:12.840> to<00:07:13.139> the<00:07:13.259> Valar<00:07:13.680> right<00:07:13.979> so that's equal to uh to the Valar right so that's equal to uh to the Valar right so even<00:07:14.759> though<00:07:14.940> she<00:07:15.180> is<00:07:15.300> in<00:07:15.539> the<00:07:15.720> grand<00:07:15.780> scheme

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of things on a lesser level perhaps than than<00:07:19.020> the<00:07:19.259> Valar<00:07:19.680> and<00:07:19.919> an<00:07:20.280> objective<00:07:20.699> sense than the Valar and an objective sense than the Valar and an objective sense for<00:07:21.840> the<00:07:21.960> numenoreans<00:07:22.620> she<00:07:23.220> is<00:07:23.400> on<00:07:23.880> the<00:07:24.180> same for the numenoreans she is on the same

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assay back from the service of melkor he assay back from the service of melkor he was<00:07:36.479> seduced<00:07:36.900> he<00:07:37.020> was<00:07:37.139> tempted<00:07:37.500> like<00:07:37.860> a<00:07:38.039> lot<00:07:38.099> of was seduced he was tempted like a lot of

was seduced he was tempted like a lot of the<00:07:38.340> other<00:07:38.460> Mayar<00:07:39.000> to<00:07:39.599> serve<00:07:39.900> melchor<00:07:40.500> but<00:07:41.160> he the other Mayar to serve melchor but he the other Mayar to serve melchor but he uh<00:07:42.120> he<00:07:42.419> was<00:07:42.479> drawn<00:07:42.840> back<00:07:43.020> by<00:07:43.380> his<00:07:43.620> wife<00:07:43.740> by

uh he was drawn back by his wife by uh he was drawn back by his wife by winning<00:07:44.340> and<00:07:44.940> so<00:07:45.060> she<00:07:45.479> is<00:07:45.780> the<00:07:46.139> Lady<00:07:46.319> of<00:07:47.160> the winning and so she is the Lady of the

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against her husband ASE who you know we against her husband ASE who you know we kind<00:07:52.199> of<00:07:52.319> learn<00:07:52.440> also<00:07:52.860> from<00:07:52.979> valicuenta<00:07:53.699> has kind of learn also from valicuenta has

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someone uh you know if if you played a someone uh you know if if you played a sport<00:08:10.800> or<00:08:11.220> you're<00:08:11.340> into<00:08:11.580> like<00:08:12.060> you<00:08:12.240> know<00:08:12.300> kind sport or you're into like you know kind

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it's like it's like a metal head you it's like it's like a metal head you know<00:08:15.900> it's<00:08:16.020> just<00:08:16.139> like<00:08:16.259> wants<00:08:16.500> to<00:08:16.560> bang<00:08:16.680> his know it's just like wants to bang his

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to has a lot of energy and wants to take to has a lot of energy and wants to take out<00:08:25.319> that<00:08:25.500> aggression<00:08:25.919> in<00:08:26.099> kind<00:08:26.220> of<00:08:26.340> a<00:08:26.400> violent out that aggression in kind of a violent out that aggression in kind of a violent way<00:08:26.940> right way right

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want to go into it full speed right you want to go into it full speed right you know<00:08:34.080> that's<00:08:34.380> that's<00:08:34.800> what<00:08:35.219> seem<00:08:35.459> to<00:08:35.580> be<00:08:35.640> the know that's that's what seem to be the know that's that's what seem to be the heart<00:08:35.940> of<00:08:36.180> assay heart of assay

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towards him and it went and had to towards him and it went and had to rescue<00:08:44.760> him<00:08:44.940> before<00:08:45.180> he<00:08:45.540> went<00:08:45.720> too<00:08:46.020> far<00:08:46.140> down rescue him before he went too far down

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background way but in a very important background way but in a very important way<00:08:54.899> and<00:08:55.200> she'll<00:08:55.440> come<00:08:55.620> up<00:08:55.740> again<00:08:55.920> in<00:08:56.339> the way and she'll come up again in the way and she'll come up again in the story<00:08:56.700> of<00:08:56.940> aldarian<00:08:57.480> and<00:08:57.720> orendis story of aldarian and orendis

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numenor but to no avail and you if you numenor but to no avail and you if you go<00:09:15.660> to<00:09:15.779> like<00:09:15.959> a<00:09:16.140> website<00:09:16.440> like<00:09:16.620> Tolkien go to like a website like Tolkien go to like a website like Tolkien Gateway<00:09:17.339> and<00:09:17.640> search<00:09:17.820> for<00:09:18.000> aldarion<00:09:18.540> you<00:09:18.779> can

Gateway and search for aldarion you can Gateway and search for aldarion you can actually<00:09:18.959> see<00:09:19.200> a<00:09:19.320> list<00:09:19.500> of<00:09:19.680> all<00:09:19.800> the<00:09:19.920> different actually see a list of all the different

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lose track within this chapter because he<00:09:24.720> just<00:09:24.839> seems<00:09:25.080> to<00:09:25.200> be<00:09:25.320> constantly<00:09:25.860> he<00:09:26.399> comes he just seems to be constantly he comes

he just seems to be constantly he comes back<00:09:26.760> for<00:09:27.000> a<00:09:27.060> little<00:09:27.180> while<00:09:27.300> and<00:09:27.540> then<00:09:27.660> he<00:09:27.779> goes back for a little while and then he goes

back for a little while and then he goes away<00:09:28.080> to<00:09:28.260> Sea<00:09:28.500> for<00:09:28.620> like<00:09:28.800> years<00:09:28.980> at<00:09:29.220> a<00:09:29.399> time<00:09:29.519> I away to Sea for like years at a time I away to Sea for like years at a time I think<00:09:30.060> the<00:09:30.300> longest<00:09:30.600> Voyage<00:09:30.959> that's<00:09:31.380> recorded

think the longest Voyage that's recorded think the longest Voyage that's recorded with<00:09:32.160> him<00:09:32.339> here<00:09:32.700> is<00:09:33.240> something<00:09:33.420> like<00:09:33.660> 14<00:09:34.019> years with him here is something like 14 years

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from your home for 14 years and you know from your home for 14 years and you know back<00:09:39.060> before<00:09:39.240> you<00:09:39.899> know<00:09:40.019> really<00:09:40.200> modern<00:09:40.500> uh back before you know really modern uh back before you know really modern uh seafaring<00:09:42.240> technology<00:09:42.980> of<00:09:43.980> the<00:09:44.160> last<00:09:44.279> you seafaring technology of the last you

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people could be away on voyages for you know<00:09:50.760> five<00:09:50.940> years<00:09:51.060> I<00:09:51.300> think<00:09:51.360> in<00:09:51.480> Moby<00:09:51.720> Dick know five years I think in Moby Dick know five years I think in Moby Dick they<00:09:52.200> they<00:09:52.380> depart<00:09:52.740> on<00:09:52.920> a<00:09:53.040> voyage<00:09:53.339> of<00:09:53.519> five

they they depart on a voyage of five they they depart on a voyage of five years years years um um um you<00:09:55.920> know<00:09:55.980> back<00:09:56.220> in<00:09:56.339> in<00:09:56.519> when<00:09:56.760> we're<00:09:56.880> still<00:09:57.000> in you know back in in when we're still in

you know back in in when we're still in the<00:09:57.300> age<00:09:57.360> of<00:09:57.540> sale<00:09:57.720> and<00:09:57.959> they're<00:09:58.140> not<00:09:58.320> yet<00:09:58.800> uh the age of sale and they're not yet uh the age of sale and they're not yet uh using<00:09:59.760> steam<00:10:00.060> power using steam power

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even in a story one of my favorite short even in a story one of my favorite short stories<00:10:04.440> by<00:10:04.620> Joseph<00:10:04.800> Conrad<00:10:05.399> youth stories by Joseph Conrad youth stories by Joseph Conrad youth um<00:10:06.480> they're<00:10:06.660> gone<00:10:06.899> for<00:10:07.140> a<00:10:07.260> long<00:10:07.380> period<00:10:07.680> of um they're gone for a long period of

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um it's still possible and I know from my<00:10:12.899> own<00:10:13.019> time<00:10:13.200> and<00:10:13.800> serving<00:10:14.220> in<00:10:14.399> the<00:10:14.519> Navy<00:10:14.700> uh my own time and serving in the Navy uh

my own time and serving in the Navy uh we<00:10:15.540> would<00:10:15.660> go<00:10:15.779> out<00:10:15.839> for<00:10:16.019> months<00:10:16.320> at<00:10:16.440> a<00:10:16.560> time<00:10:16.700> and we would go out for months at a time and we would go out for months at a time and sometimes<00:10:18.000> you<00:10:18.300> know<00:10:18.360> sometimes<00:10:18.660> ships<00:10:19.019> could

sometimes you know sometimes ships could sometimes you know sometimes ships could be<00:10:19.320> gone<00:10:19.500> for<00:10:19.860> even<00:10:20.100> longer<00:10:20.519> than<00:10:20.640> that<00:10:20.820> right be gone for even longer than that right

be gone for even longer than that right now<00:10:21.600> they<00:10:21.779> might<00:10:21.899> not<00:10:22.019> be<00:10:22.140> at<00:10:22.320> Sea<00:10:22.620> that<00:10:22.740> entire now they might not be at Sea that entire

now they might not be at Sea that entire time<00:10:23.339> but<00:10:23.940> they're<00:10:24.060> going<00:10:24.240> to<00:10:24.360> be<00:10:24.420> gone<00:10:24.600> from time but they're going to be gone from time but they're going to be gone from their<00:10:24.959> home<00:10:25.140> port<00:10:25.380> for<00:10:25.620> a<00:10:25.740> long<00:10:25.860> time<00:10:25.980> of

their home port for a long time of their home port for a long time of course<00:10:26.339> wherever<00:10:27.000> we<00:10:27.180> are<00:10:27.300> nowadays<00:10:27.779> we<00:10:28.019> think course wherever we are nowadays we think

course wherever we are nowadays we think oh<00:10:28.320> I<00:10:28.560> can<00:10:28.800> just<00:10:28.920> fly<00:10:29.339> home<00:10:29.519> if<00:10:29.760> I<00:10:29.940> really<00:10:30.000> need oh I can just fly home if I really need

oh I can just fly home if I really need to<00:10:30.360> and<00:10:30.540> that<00:10:30.720> would<00:10:30.959> often<00:10:31.260> happen<00:10:31.440> that<00:10:31.800> will to and that would often happen that will to and that would often happen that will often<00:10:32.160> happen<00:10:32.279> with<00:10:32.640> people<00:10:33.480> in<00:10:33.899> modern often happen with people in modern

often happen with people in modern navies<00:10:34.500> right<00:10:34.680> they<00:10:34.800> might<00:10:34.980> be<00:10:35.040> gone<00:10:35.220> their navies right they might be gone their navies right they might be gone their [ __ ]<00:10:35.700> might<00:10:35.820> be<00:10:35.880> gone<00:10:36.000> on<00:10:36.180> deployment<00:10:36.540> for<00:10:36.720> a

[ __ ] might be gone on deployment for a [ __ ] might be gone on deployment for a long<00:10:36.959> time<00:10:37.140> maybe<00:10:37.740> longer<00:10:38.100> than<00:10:38.220> a<00:10:38.339> year<00:10:38.459> but long time maybe longer than a year but

long time maybe longer than a year but they<00:10:38.820> might<00:10:39.060> you<00:10:39.540> know<00:10:39.660> fly<00:10:39.839> back<00:10:40.080> home<00:10:40.320> while they might you know fly back home while

they might you know fly back home while the<00:10:40.860> rest<00:10:40.980> of<00:10:41.100> the<00:10:41.220> ship<00:10:41.339> is<00:10:41.519> out<00:10:41.640> there<00:10:41.820> for<00:10:42.060> a the rest of the ship is out there for a

the rest of the ship is out there for a short<00:10:42.300> period<00:10:42.600> of<00:10:42.720> time<00:10:42.899> just<00:10:43.680> to<00:10:43.800> go<00:10:43.920> on<00:10:44.040> leave short period of time just to go on leave short period of time just to go on leave for<00:10:44.459> a<00:10:44.519> little<00:10:44.640> while<00:10:44.760> and<00:10:44.940> visit<00:10:45.120> their

for a little while and visit their for a little while and visit their family<00:10:45.600> but<00:10:46.320> you<00:10:46.920> know<00:10:47.040> in<00:10:47.579> this<00:10:47.700> case family but you know in this case family but you know in this case aldarion<00:10:48.480> could<00:10:48.779> be<00:10:48.899> gone<00:10:49.079> for<00:10:49.500> years<00:10:49.860> at<00:10:50.220> a

aldarion could be gone for years at a aldarion could be gone for years at a time<00:10:50.519> but<00:10:51.240> he<00:10:51.540> wasn't<00:10:51.720> necessarily<00:10:52.260> always<00:10:52.500> at time but he wasn't necessarily always at

time but he wasn't necessarily always at Sea<00:10:53.040> a<00:10:53.160> lot<00:10:53.279> of<00:10:53.339> times<00:10:53.459> he<00:10:53.700> was<00:10:53.820> working<00:10:54.120> in<00:10:54.959> the Sea a lot of times he was working in the Sea a lot of times he was working in the you<00:10:55.200> know<00:10:55.440> close<00:10:55.800> to<00:10:55.980> the<00:10:56.100> Shoreline<00:10:56.519> of

you know close to the Shoreline of you know close to the Shoreline of Middle<00:10:56.940> Earth<00:10:57.180> uh<00:10:57.899> you<00:10:58.019> know<00:10:58.140> and<00:10:58.200> he<00:10:58.380> was Middle Earth uh you know and he was Middle Earth uh you know and he was learning<00:10:58.740> about<00:10:58.920> the<00:10:59.160> different<00:10:59.279> peoples learning about the different peoples

learning about the different peoples back<00:11:00.120> in<00:11:00.300> Middle<00:11:00.420> Earth back in Middle Earth back in Middle Earth but<00:11:02.459> around<00:11:02.579> the<00:11:02.820> year<00:11:02.940> 800<00:11:03.360> of<00:11:03.540> the<00:11:03.660> second but around the year 800 of the second

but around the year 800 of the second age<00:11:04.019> he<00:11:04.320> is<00:11:04.440> first<00:11:04.620> introduced<00:11:04.980> to<00:11:05.100> erindus<00:11:05.700> a age he is first introduced to erindus a age he is first introduced to erindus a lady<00:11:06.120> of<00:11:06.300> the<00:11:06.360> House<00:11:06.480> of<00:11:06.720> bayor<00:11:07.079> he<00:11:07.740> hints<00:11:08.100> at

lady of the House of bayor he hints at lady of the House of bayor he hints at his<00:11:08.339> interest<00:11:08.459> in<00:11:08.640> her<00:11:08.820> but<00:11:09.000> nevertheless his interest in her but nevertheless his interest in her but nevertheless departs<00:11:10.019> for<00:11:10.140> another<00:11:10.260> long<00:11:10.620> voyage departs for another long voyage

departs for another long voyage the<00:11:12.540> conflict<00:11:12.779> between<00:11:13.019> aldarian's<00:11:13.740> love<00:11:13.860> of the conflict between aldarian's love of the conflict between aldarian's love of the<00:11:14.160> sea<00:11:14.339> and<00:11:14.399> his<00:11:14.579> parents<00:11:14.820> wish<00:11:15.000> for<00:11:15.180> him<00:11:15.360> to the sea and his parents wish for him to

the sea and his parents wish for him to settle<00:11:15.839> into<00:11:16.019> his<00:11:16.260> future<00:11:16.440> obligations<00:11:16.980> is settle into his future obligations is settle into his future obligations is further<00:11:17.700> intensified<00:11:18.180> by<00:11:18.480> the<00:11:18.600> budding further intensified by the budding

further intensified by the budding relationship<00:11:19.260> between<00:11:19.560> aldarian<00:11:20.220> and relationship between aldarian and relationship between aldarian and orindus<00:11:21.000> so<00:11:21.480> even<00:11:21.600> though<00:11:21.779> he<00:11:21.959> leaves<00:11:22.200> after orindus so even though he leaves after

orindus so even though he leaves after first<00:11:22.740> being<00:11:22.920> introduced<00:11:23.339> to<00:11:23.519> her<00:11:23.640> he<00:11:24.120> leaves first being introduced to her he leaves first being introduced to her he leaves pretty<00:11:24.540> quickly<00:11:24.839> thereafter<00:11:25.440> when<00:11:25.980> he<00:11:26.100> comes pretty quickly thereafter when he comes

pretty quickly thereafter when he comes back<00:11:26.519> their<00:11:27.180> relationship<00:11:27.600> continues<00:11:28.140> to back their relationship continues to back their relationship continues to develop develop develop at<00:11:30.000> one<00:11:30.120> point<00:11:30.240> in<00:11:30.420> response<00:11:30.839> to<00:11:30.899> his<00:11:31.079> father at one point in response to his father

at one point in response to his father al-dariyan<00:11:32.339> says<00:11:32.760> to<00:11:33.060> what<00:11:33.300> purpose<00:11:33.600> then<00:11:33.779> is al-dariyan says to what purpose then is al-dariyan says to what purpose then is the<00:11:34.079> gracing<00:11:34.440> of<00:11:34.560> our<00:11:34.680> ships<00:11:34.920> if<00:11:35.160> they<00:11:35.279> are<00:11:35.399> to

the gracing of our ships if they are to the gracing of our ships if they are to sail<00:11:35.760> to<00:11:35.940> no<00:11:36.120> Shores<00:11:36.600> and<00:11:37.019> may<00:11:37.200> seek<00:11:37.500> nothing sail to no Shores and may seek nothing sail to no Shores and may seek nothing not<00:11:37.980> seen<00:11:38.279> before<00:11:38.459> right<00:11:39.360> so<00:11:39.959> over<00:11:40.200> against

not seen before right so over against not seen before right so over against medelder's<00:11:41.339> concern<00:11:41.640> of<00:11:42.240> you<00:11:42.899> know<00:11:43.019> aldarian medelder's concern of you know aldarian medelder's concern of you know aldarian is<00:11:44.160> going<00:11:44.339> to<00:11:44.579> want<00:11:45.060> to<00:11:45.300> hold<00:11:45.540> other<00:11:45.839> lands

is going to want to hold other lands is going to want to hold other lands that<00:11:46.320> he's<00:11:46.440> going<00:11:46.620> to<00:11:46.680> want<00:11:46.860> to<00:11:46.980> possess<00:11:47.279> other that he's going to want to possess other that he's going to want to possess other things<00:11:47.700> and<00:11:47.940> thus<00:11:48.120> introduce<00:11:48.540> this<00:11:48.779> original

things and thus introduce this original things and thus introduce this original sin<00:11:49.380> back<00:11:49.620> into<00:11:49.800> the<00:11:50.040> culture<00:11:50.339> of<00:11:50.519> numenor sin back into the culture of numenor

sin back into the culture of numenor um<00:11:52.560> aldarian<00:11:53.220> says<00:11:53.640> like<00:11:53.820> why<00:11:54.180> why<00:11:54.420> do<00:11:54.600> we<00:11:54.720> even um aldarian says like why why do we even

um aldarian says like why why do we even you<00:11:55.680> know<00:11:55.740> have<00:11:56.040> this<00:11:56.279> land<00:11:56.399> why<00:11:56.640> do<00:11:56.760> we<00:11:56.880> even you know have this land why do we even you know have this land why do we even have<00:11:57.180> these<00:11:57.420> ships<00:11:57.720> if<00:11:58.260> if<00:11:58.500> they're<00:11:58.740> not<00:11:58.920> to

have these ships if if they're not to have these ships if if they're not to sail<00:11:59.339> if<00:11:59.579> like<00:11:59.940> are<00:12:00.480> we<00:12:00.660> just<00:12:00.839> supposed<00:12:00.959> to<00:12:01.140> be sail if like are we just supposed to be

sail if like are we just supposed to be confined<00:12:01.740> here<00:12:01.860> like<00:12:02.040> it's<00:12:02.220> a<00:12:02.399> prison<00:12:02.579> on confined here like it's a prison on confined here like it's a prison on Earth<00:12:03.000> even<00:12:03.360> if<00:12:03.540> it<00:12:03.660> is<00:12:03.779> a<00:12:03.959> really<00:12:04.019> nice<00:12:04.260> prison

Earth even if it is a really nice prison Earth even if it is a really nice prison even<00:12:05.399> if<00:12:05.579> it's<00:12:05.760> a<00:12:05.880> white<00:12:06.000> collar<00:12:06.360> prison<00:12:06.600> right even if it's a white collar prison right

even if it's a white collar prison right like<00:12:07.560> it<00:12:08.399> still<00:12:08.640> feels<00:12:09.360> imprisoning<00:12:09.839> if<00:12:10.079> we like it still feels imprisoning if we like it still feels imprisoning if we can't<00:12:10.320> go<00:12:10.560> anywhere<00:12:10.920> else<00:12:11.100> and<00:12:11.459> seek<00:12:11.700> other can't go anywhere else and seek other

can't go anywhere else and seek other places<00:12:12.060> we<00:12:12.420> know<00:12:12.540> we<00:12:12.660> can't<00:12:12.779> go<00:12:13.019> to<00:12:13.260> the<00:12:13.920> West places we know we can't go to the West places we know we can't go to the West because<00:12:14.459> that's<00:12:14.820> the<00:12:15.000> undying<00:12:15.420> lands<00:12:15.720> and because that's the undying lands and

because that's the undying lands and we're<00:12:15.959> not<00:12:16.079> allowed<00:12:16.320> there<00:12:16.500> because<00:12:16.920> of<00:12:17.220> the we're not allowed there because of the we're not allowed there because of the ban<00:12:17.579> but<00:12:18.120> why<00:12:18.240> can't<00:12:18.420> we<00:12:18.540> go<00:12:18.720> back<00:12:18.839> to<00:12:18.959> the<00:12:19.079> east

ban but why can't we go back to the east ban but why can't we go back to the east um<00:12:20.760> why<00:12:21.000> can't<00:12:21.180> we<00:12:21.300> seek<00:12:21.540> things<00:12:21.720> that<00:12:21.959> we um why can't we seek things that we um why can't we seek things that we haven't<00:12:22.200> seen<00:12:22.500> before haven't seen before

haven't seen before uh<00:12:24.180> so<00:12:24.420> it's<00:12:24.660> not<00:12:24.839> it's<00:12:25.380> not<00:12:25.500> entirely<00:12:25.980> a uh so it's not it's not entirely a uh so it's not it's not entirely a what<00:12:28.019> I<00:12:28.140> would<00:12:28.260> call<00:12:28.380> like<00:12:28.500> a<00:12:28.680> benevolent<00:12:29.640> uh what I would call like a benevolent uh

what I would call like a benevolent uh motivation<00:12:30.600> but<00:12:30.779> it's<00:12:30.959> not<00:12:31.140> necessarily<00:12:31.560> an motivation but it's not necessarily an motivation but it's not necessarily an evil<00:12:31.980> one<00:12:32.040> it's<00:12:32.279> it's<00:12:32.399> just<00:12:32.640> it's<00:12:32.820> Wanderlust evil one it's it's just it's Wanderlust

evil one it's it's just it's Wanderlust right<00:12:33.839> it's<00:12:34.500> this<00:12:34.680> idea<00:12:34.920> of<00:12:35.100> Wanderlust<00:12:35.579> that right it's this idea of Wanderlust that right it's this idea of Wanderlust that aldarion<00:12:36.360> is<00:12:36.720> still<00:12:36.899> a<00:12:37.200> young<00:12:37.560> man<00:12:37.800> in<00:12:38.220> the aldarion is still a young man in the

aldarion is still a young man in the numenorian<00:12:39.060> scheme<00:12:39.420> of<00:12:39.480> things<00:12:39.660> uh<00:12:40.560> and<00:12:40.740> he numenorian scheme of things uh and he numenorian scheme of things uh and he has<00:12:41.040> this<00:12:41.279> desire<00:12:41.579> to<00:12:41.760> go<00:12:41.880> and<00:12:42.000> see<00:12:42.180> these has this desire to go and see these

has this desire to go and see these other<00:12:42.540> places<00:12:42.860> and<00:12:43.860> I<00:12:43.980> would<00:12:44.040> say<00:12:44.160> this<00:12:44.399> is<00:12:44.519> a other places and I would say this is a other places and I would say this is a desire<00:12:45.060> that<00:12:45.540> has<00:12:45.959> the<00:12:46.139> potential<00:12:46.500> to<00:12:46.800> be<00:12:46.920> a

desire that has the potential to be a desire that has the potential to be a very<00:12:47.279> benevolent<00:12:47.820> one<00:12:48.000> it<00:12:48.240> has<00:12:48.360> a<00:12:48.540> potential very benevolent one it has a potential

very benevolent one it has a potential to<00:12:49.380> go<00:12:49.500> back<00:12:49.680> to<00:12:49.860> these<00:12:50.100> other<00:12:50.160> lands<00:12:50.579> to<00:12:51.060> meet to go back to these other lands to meet to go back to these other lands to meet these<00:12:51.480> other<00:12:51.540> peoples<00:12:51.959> and<00:12:52.440> to<00:12:52.560> introduce these other peoples and to introduce

these other peoples and to introduce them<00:12:53.279> to<00:12:53.760> the<00:12:53.880> ways<00:12:54.180> of<00:12:54.300> numenor<00:12:54.839> when<00:12:55.260> really them to the ways of numenor when really them to the ways of numenor when really they're<00:12:55.860> still<00:12:56.040> operating<00:12:56.700> in<00:12:57.000> many<00:12:57.180> cases they're still operating in many cases

they're still operating in many cases under<00:12:57.839> the<00:12:58.139> under<00:12:58.620> the<00:12:58.980> teachings<00:12:59.339> under<00:12:59.579> the under the under the teachings under the under the under the teachings under the machinations<00:13:01.079> of<00:13:01.760> morgoth<00:13:02.760> right<00:13:02.940> the<00:13:03.180> dark machinations of morgoth right the dark

machinations of morgoth right the dark lord<00:13:03.540> who<00:13:03.899> was<00:13:04.019> defeated<00:13:04.320> in<00:13:04.500> the<00:13:04.680> first<00:13:04.740> age lord who was defeated in the first age lord who was defeated in the first age it's<00:13:05.399> hard<00:13:05.579> to<00:13:05.760> unlearn<00:13:06.060> those<00:13:06.300> bad<00:13:06.540> those it's hard to unlearn those bad those

it's hard to unlearn those bad those evil<00:13:07.079> habits<00:13:07.440> those<00:13:07.680> habits<00:13:08.100> of<00:13:08.160> domination evil habits those habits of domination evil habits those habits of domination that<00:13:09.300> they<00:13:09.420> likely<00:13:09.720> learned<00:13:10.019> from<00:13:10.139> morgoth that they likely learned from morgoth

that they likely learned from morgoth but<00:13:11.220> there's<00:13:11.459> potential<00:13:11.880> under<00:13:12.240> the<00:13:12.480> sway but there's potential under the sway but there's potential under the sway under<00:13:13.019> the<00:13:13.200> influence<00:13:13.560> of<00:13:13.680> numenor<00:13:14.100> to under the influence of numenor to

under the influence of numenor to unlearn<00:13:14.639> those<00:13:14.880> things unlearn those things unlearn those things and<00:13:16.320> indeed<00:13:16.620> early<00:13:16.800> in<00:13:16.980> the<00:13:17.100> history<00:13:17.220> of and indeed early in the history of

and indeed early in the history of numeral<00:13:17.639> we<00:13:17.880> really<00:13:18.060> get<00:13:18.240> that<00:13:18.360> sense<00:13:18.600> that numeral we really get that sense that numeral we really get that sense that you<00:13:19.380> know<00:13:19.440> they<00:13:19.620> weren't<00:13:19.800> they<00:13:20.040> weren't<00:13:20.160> going you know they weren't they weren't going

you know they weren't they weren't going back<00:13:20.579> there<00:13:20.760> to<00:13:20.940> dominate<00:13:21.360> to<00:13:21.720> colonize<00:13:22.200> other back there to dominate to colonize other back there to dominate to colonize other peoples<00:13:23.100> they<00:13:23.339> were<00:13:23.459> going<00:13:23.639> back<00:13:23.820> there<00:13:24.000> to peoples they were going back there to

peoples they were going back there to teach<00:13:24.480> them<00:13:24.779> to<00:13:25.320> help<00:13:25.500> bring<00:13:25.740> them<00:13:25.980> up<00:13:26.160> to<00:13:26.459> lift teach them to help bring them up to lift

teach them to help bring them up to lift them<00:13:26.820> up<00:13:27.000> to<00:13:27.480> teach<00:13:27.660> them<00:13:27.899> the<00:13:28.260> true<00:13:28.740> ways<00:13:29.100> of them up to teach them the true ways of them up to teach them the true ways of goodness<00:13:29.519> as<00:13:29.760> opposed<00:13:30.060> to<00:13:30.120> the<00:13:30.300> ways<00:13:30.600> taught

goodness as opposed to the ways taught goodness as opposed to the ways taught them<00:13:31.019> by<00:13:31.260> morgoth them by morgoth them by morgoth in<00:13:33.420> aldarion<00:13:33.959> we<00:13:34.200> find<00:13:34.320> the<00:13:34.500> question<00:13:34.620> of in aldarion we find the question of

in aldarion we find the question of numenor's<00:13:35.459> Destiny<00:13:35.760> personified<00:13:36.300> are<00:13:37.079> the numenor's Destiny personified are the numenor's Destiny personified are the new<00:13:37.320> minorians<00:13:37.860> to<00:13:37.980> remain<00:13:38.220> confined<00:13:38.639> forever new minorians to remain confined forever

new minorians to remain confined forever to<00:13:39.120> their<00:13:39.300> island<00:13:39.420> or<00:13:39.839> do<00:13:39.959> they<00:13:40.079> have<00:13:40.260> some to their island or do they have some to their island or do they have some role<00:13:40.800> to<00:13:40.920> play<00:13:41.040> in<00:13:41.160> the<00:13:41.279> lands<00:13:41.579> their role to play in the lands their

role to play in the lands their forefathers<00:13:42.360> left<00:13:42.600> behind forefathers left behind forefathers left behind on<00:13:44.220> at<00:13:44.399> least<00:13:44.459> one<00:13:44.639> Voyage<00:13:44.940> aldarion<00:13:45.540> is<00:13:45.720> gone on at least one Voyage aldarion is gone

on at least one Voyage aldarion is gone for<00:13:46.139> so<00:13:46.260> long<00:13:46.440> that<00:13:46.680> he<00:13:46.800> has<00:13:46.860> feared<00:13:47.220> lost<00:13:47.339> a for so long that he has feared lost a for so long that he has feared lost a troubling<00:13:48.000> Prospect<00:13:48.420> for<00:13:48.660> the<00:13:48.779> stability<00:13:49.079> of troubling Prospect for the stability of

troubling Prospect for the stability of numenor<00:13:49.740> since<00:13:50.220> he<00:13:50.399> is<00:13:50.519> the<00:13:50.700> only<00:13:50.820> son<00:13:51.000> of numenor since he is the only son of numenor since he is the only son of tarmin<00:13:51.600> Eldor<00:13:51.959> and<00:13:52.380> numenorous<00:13:53.040> to<00:13:53.160> this tarmin Eldor and numenorous to this

tarmin Eldor and numenorous to this point<00:13:53.399> governed<00:13:53.820> by<00:13:53.940> agnatic<00:13:54.480> primogeniture point governed by agnatic primogeniture point governed by agnatic primogeniture meaning<00:13:55.800> the<00:13:56.040> throne<00:13:56.279> cannot<00:13:56.579> pass<00:13:56.820> to<00:13:57.060> a meaning the throne cannot pass to a meaning the throne cannot pass to a female female

female at<00:13:58.800> this<00:13:58.920> point<00:13:59.040> in<00:13:59.220> numenor's<00:13:59.760> history<00:13:59.940> the at this point in numenor's history the at this point in numenor's history the throne<00:14:00.779> has<00:14:00.959> always<00:14:01.079> passed<00:14:01.440> to<00:14:01.560> the<00:14:01.680> eldest throne has always passed to the eldest

throne has always passed to the eldest son<00:14:02.160> of<00:14:02.339> the<00:14:02.519> present<00:14:02.760> King<00:14:02.940> so<00:14:03.480> it's<00:14:03.600> been<00:14:03.779> a son of the present King so it's been a son of the present King so it's been a pretty<00:14:04.139> uncontroversial<00:14:05.240> passage<00:14:06.240> to<00:14:06.420> the pretty uncontroversial passage to the

pretty uncontroversial passage to the passes<00:14:06.959> to<00:14:07.139> the<00:14:07.260> eldest<00:14:07.560> son<00:14:07.680> passes<00:14:08.100> to<00:14:08.279> the passes to the eldest son passes to the passes to the eldest son passes to the eldest<00:14:08.700> son eldest son

eldest son thus<00:14:10.079> if<00:14:10.260> aldarion<00:14:10.860> were<00:14:11.100> lost<00:14:11.279> it<00:14:11.519> would<00:14:11.639> be thus if aldarion were lost it would be thus if aldarion were lost it would be the<00:14:11.940> first<00:14:12.060> great<00:14:12.240> test<00:14:12.480> of<00:14:12.720> numenor's the first great test of numenor's

the first great test of numenor's political<00:14:13.560> stability<00:14:13.980> If<00:14:14.399> aldarion's<00:14:15.180> lost political stability If aldarion's lost political stability If aldarion's lost it<00:14:15.420> can't<00:14:15.540> pass<00:14:15.779> to<00:14:15.959> one<00:14:16.200> of<00:14:16.500> his<00:14:16.740> sisters<00:14:17.040> he it can't pass to one of his sisters he

it can't pass to one of his sisters he has<00:14:17.399> two<00:14:17.519> sisters<00:14:17.880> and<00:14:18.000> it<00:14:18.120> can't<00:14:18.240> pass<00:14:18.420> to<00:14:18.660> one has two sisters and it can't pass to one has two sisters and it can't pass to one of<00:14:18.899> them<00:14:19.019> because<00:14:19.579> they<00:14:20.579> have<00:14:20.700> this<00:14:20.880> agonic

of them because they have this agonic of them because they have this agonic agnotic<00:14:22.139> primogenitor agnotic primogenitor agnotic primogenitor so<00:14:24.360> it<00:14:24.600> would<00:14:24.660> have<00:14:24.839> it<00:14:25.079> would<00:14:25.560> become<00:14:25.860> a so it would have it would become a

so it would have it would become a somewhat<00:14:26.639> of<00:14:26.760> a<00:14:26.880> controversial<00:14:27.360> point<00:14:27.600> now somewhat of a controversial point now somewhat of a controversial point now you<00:14:28.019> may<00:14:28.139> you<00:14:28.440> may<00:14:28.560> say<00:14:28.800> well<00:14:29.040> they<00:14:29.279> can<00:14:29.459> they you may you may say well they can they

you may you may say well they can they can<00:14:30.000> probably<00:14:30.120> figure<00:14:30.360> it<00:14:30.600> out<00:14:30.660> pretty<00:14:30.839> easily can probably figure it out pretty easily can probably figure it out pretty easily at<00:14:31.800> this<00:14:31.980> point<00:14:32.160> but<00:14:32.820> we<00:14:33.300> know<00:14:33.420> from<00:14:33.660> history

at this point but we know from history at this point but we know from history that<00:14:34.260> in<00:14:34.500> the<00:14:34.620> grand<00:14:34.980> scheme<00:14:35.339> of<00:14:35.399> the<00:14:35.519> history that in the grand scheme of the history

that in the grand scheme of the history of<00:14:35.760> men<00:14:35.880> if<00:14:36.120> you<00:14:36.240> look<00:14:36.360> at<00:14:36.480> any<00:14:36.720> questions<00:14:37.019> like of men if you look at any questions like

of men if you look at any questions like this<00:14:37.560> even<00:14:38.160> when<00:14:38.459> it's<00:14:38.579> clear<00:14:38.820> like<00:14:39.120> it<00:14:39.300> should this even when it's clear like it should this even when it's clear like it should pass<00:14:39.600> to<00:14:39.720> his<00:14:39.839> son<00:14:40.019> it's<00:14:40.199> not<00:14:40.380> always<00:14:40.620> just

pass to his son it's not always just pass to his son it's not always just this<00:14:41.399> easily<00:14:41.880> this<00:14:42.660> thing<00:14:42.779> that<00:14:42.899> easily this easily this thing that easily this easily this thing that easily happens<00:14:43.500> it<00:14:44.100> can<00:14:44.220> be<00:14:44.339> a<00:14:44.519> very<00:14:44.699> controversial happens it can be a very controversial

happens it can be a very controversial issue<00:14:45.660> at<00:14:46.019> any<00:14:46.139> point issue at any point issue at any point but<00:14:47.820> thankfully<00:14:48.240> even<00:14:48.600> after<00:14:48.959> they<00:14:49.199> think but thankfully even after they think

but thankfully even after they think that<00:14:49.500> he<00:14:49.680> may<00:14:49.800> be<00:14:49.920> lost<00:14:50.100> because<00:14:50.339> he's<00:14:50.519> been that he may be lost because he's been that he may be lost because he's been gone<00:14:50.940> so<00:14:51.120> long<00:14:51.240> aldarian<00:14:51.959> returns gone so long aldarian returns

gone so long aldarian returns while<00:14:53.459> audarian<00:14:54.000> and<00:14:54.240> horrendous<00:14:54.660> are while audarian and horrendous are while audarian and horrendous are eventually<00:14:55.079> betrothed<00:14:55.620> we<00:14:55.800> learned<00:14:56.040> that eventually betrothed we learned that

eventually betrothed we learned that erendus<00:14:56.639> Harbors<00:14:57.000> within<00:14:57.300> herself<00:14:57.660> a<00:14:57.959> fierce erendus Harbors within herself a fierce erendus Harbors within herself a fierce disdain<00:14:58.560> for<00:14:58.800> the<00:14:58.920> sea<00:14:59.100> viewing<00:14:59.639> it<00:14:59.760> as<00:15:00.000> her disdain for the sea viewing it as her

disdain for the sea viewing it as her rival rival rival at<00:15:02.399> one<00:15:02.579> point<00:15:02.699> she<00:15:02.940> even<00:15:03.120> reviewed<00:15:03.540> rebukes at one point she even reviewed rebukes at one point she even reviewed rebukes volandile<00:15:04.920> the<00:15:05.399> maternal<00:15:05.760> grandfather<00:15:06.120> of volandile the maternal grandfather of

volandile the maternal grandfather of aldarion<00:15:06.899> for<00:15:07.380> referring<00:15:07.800> to<00:15:07.920> her<00:15:08.040> as aldarion for referring to her as aldarion for referring to her as meaning<00:15:10.139> daughter<00:15:10.440> of<00:15:10.680> winning meaning daughter of winning

meaning daughter of winning call<00:15:12.600> me<00:15:12.720> by<00:15:13.019> no<00:15:13.260> such<00:15:13.440> name<00:15:13.680> I<00:15:14.160> am<00:15:14.339> no<00:15:14.579> daughter call me by no such name I am no daughter

call me by no such name I am no daughter of<00:15:15.060> winning<00:15:15.360> rather<00:15:16.199> she<00:15:16.560> is<00:15:16.740> my<00:15:17.040> foe<00:15:17.639> wow of winning rather she is my foe wow of winning rather she is my foe wow right<00:15:18.959> those<00:15:19.380> are<00:15:19.560> strong<00:15:20.040> words<00:15:20.220> to<00:15:20.459> go right those are strong words to go

right those are strong words to go against<00:15:20.760> a<00:15:21.000> goddess<00:15:21.360> this<00:15:22.320> must<00:15:22.500> have<00:15:22.620> come against a goddess this must have come against a goddess this must have come off<00:15:22.920> like<00:15:23.100> blasphemy<00:15:23.639> to<00:15:23.760> the<00:15:23.880> numenorians off like blasphemy to the numenorians

off like blasphemy to the numenorians present<00:15:24.720> the<00:15:25.079> winning<00:15:25.320> was<00:15:25.620> essentially<00:15:25.980> the present the winning was essentially the present the winning was essentially the Divine<00:15:27.060> patroness<00:15:27.600> of<00:15:27.779> the<00:15:27.959> land Divine patroness of the land

Divine patroness of the land thus<00:15:29.339> in<00:15:29.579> her<00:15:29.760> words<00:15:29.940> here<00:15:30.180> we<00:15:30.360> see<00:15:30.480> that thus in her words here we see that thus in her words here we see that aldarion<00:15:31.260> and<00:15:31.440> orindus<00:15:31.920> are<00:15:32.220> likely<00:15:32.459> destined aldarion and orindus are likely destined

aldarion and orindus are likely destined for<00:15:33.000> a<00:15:33.240> tumultuous<00:15:33.660> relationship for a tumultuous relationship for a tumultuous relationship at<00:15:35.459> a<00:15:35.519> later<00:15:35.639> time<00:15:35.820> the<00:15:36.120> two<00:15:36.300> descend<00:15:36.660> from<00:15:36.839> the at a later time the two descend from the

at a later time the two descend from the Holy<00:15:37.260> Mountain<00:15:37.380> minotarma<00:15:38.160> together<00:15:38.399> and Holy Mountain minotarma together and Holy Mountain minotarma together and horrendous<00:15:39.660> inquires<00:15:40.139> after<00:15:40.320> aldarion's horrendous inquires after aldarion's horrendous inquires after aldarion's love<00:15:41.339> for<00:15:41.519> numenor love for numenor

love for numenor I<00:15:43.680> love<00:15:43.800> it<00:15:43.980> indeed<00:15:44.339> he<00:15:44.579> answered<00:15:44.940> though<00:15:45.420> I I love it indeed he answered though I I love it indeed he answered though I think<00:15:45.720> that<00:15:45.899> you<00:15:46.019> doubt<00:15:46.380> it<00:15:46.440> for<00:15:47.100> I<00:15:47.279> think<00:15:47.459> also

think that you doubt it for I think also think that you doubt it for I think also of<00:15:48.000> what<00:15:48.180> it<00:15:48.240> may<00:15:48.420> be<00:15:48.540> in<00:15:48.720> time<00:15:48.899> to<00:15:49.079> come<00:15:49.199> and of what it may be in time to come and

of what it may be in time to come and the<00:15:49.620> hope<00:15:49.740> and<00:15:49.920> Splendor<00:15:50.279> of<00:15:50.399> its<00:15:50.639> people<00:15:50.760> and the hope and Splendor of its people and the hope and Splendor of its people and I<00:15:51.779> believe<00:15:51.959> that<00:15:52.199> a<00:15:52.320> gift<00:15:52.440> should<00:15:52.680> not<00:15:52.860> lie

I believe that a gift should not lie I believe that a gift should not lie idle<00:15:53.459> and<00:15:53.579> horde idle and horde idle and horde but<00:15:55.680> erindus<00:15:56.279> denied<00:15:56.579> his<00:15:56.760> words<00:15:56.940> saying<00:15:57.420> such but erindus denied his words saying such

but erindus denied his words saying such gifts<00:15:58.380> has<00:15:58.560> come<00:15:58.740> from<00:15:58.860> the<00:15:58.980> Valar<00:15:59.399> and gifts has come from the Valar and gifts has come from the Valar and through<00:16:00.240> them<00:16:00.420> from<00:16:00.600> the<00:16:00.720> one<00:16:00.839> are<00:16:01.079> to<00:16:01.260> be through them from the one are to be

through them from the one are to be loved<00:16:01.620> for<00:16:01.740> themselves<00:16:02.160> now<00:16:02.459> and<00:16:02.820> in<00:16:03.000> all<00:16:03.180> Nows loved for themselves now and in all Nows loved for themselves now and in all Nows they<00:16:04.079> are<00:16:04.199> not<00:16:04.320> given<00:16:04.560> for<00:16:04.740> barter<00:16:05.160> for<00:16:05.459> more

they are not given for barter for more they are not given for barter for more or<00:16:05.820> for<00:16:06.060> better<00:16:06.240> the<00:16:07.019> Adine<00:16:07.440> remain<00:16:07.860> mortal or for better the Adine remain mortal or for better the Adine remain mortal men<00:16:08.339> aldarian<00:16:08.940> great<00:16:09.300> though<00:16:09.540> they<00:16:09.660> be<00:16:09.839> and<00:16:10.500> we

men aldarian great though they be and we men aldarian great though they be and we cannot<00:16:10.980> dwell<00:16:11.220> in<00:16:11.399> the<00:16:11.579> time<00:16:11.699> that<00:16:11.880> is<00:16:12.000> to<00:16:12.180> come cannot dwell in the time that is to come

cannot dwell in the time that is to come lest<00:16:12.720> we<00:16:12.839> lose<00:16:12.959> our<00:16:13.260> now<00:16:13.440> for<00:16:13.740> a<00:16:13.920> phantom<00:16:14.279> of lest we lose our now for a phantom of lest we lose our now for a phantom of our<00:16:14.579> own<00:16:14.760> design our own design

our own design once<00:16:16.620> again<00:16:16.680> aldarion<00:16:17.399> Bears<00:16:17.820> witness<00:16:18.000> to<00:16:18.300> the once again aldarion Bears witness to the once again aldarion Bears witness to the question<00:16:18.600> of<00:16:18.839> numenor's<00:16:19.440> purpose<00:16:19.740> while question of numenor's purpose while

question of numenor's purpose while arendas<00:16:20.880> advocates<00:16:21.300> for<00:16:21.600> loving<00:16:21.899> the<00:16:22.079> land<00:16:22.199> as arendas advocates for loving the land as arendas advocates for loving the land as it<00:16:22.800> is it is it is despite<00:16:24.660> their<00:16:24.899> betrothal<00:16:25.440> aldarion<00:16:26.160> can't despite their betrothal aldarion can't

despite their betrothal aldarion can't quit<00:16:26.820> the<00:16:26.940> sea<00:16:27.240> and<00:16:27.660> makes<00:16:27.899> further<00:16:28.260> voyages quit the sea and makes further voyages quit the sea and makes further voyages but<00:16:29.519> he<00:16:29.639> eventually<00:16:29.940> makes<00:16:30.240> good<00:16:30.480> their but he eventually makes good their

but he eventually makes good their betrothal<00:16:31.260> wedding<00:16:31.500> earned<00:16:32.040> us<00:16:32.160> 70<00:16:32.399> years betrothal wedding earned us 70 years betrothal wedding earned us 70 years after<00:16:33.000> they<00:16:33.240> first<00:16:33.420> met after they first met

after they first met so<00:16:34.920> next<00:16:35.100> time<00:16:35.220> we'll<00:16:35.339> pick<00:16:35.519> up<00:16:35.699> with<00:16:35.880> the so next time we'll pick up with the so next time we'll pick up with the story<00:16:36.240> with<00:16:36.720> the<00:16:36.839> story<00:16:37.079> of<00:16:37.560> the<00:16:37.740> wedding<00:16:37.860> of story with the story of the wedding of

story with the story of the wedding of aldarian<00:16:38.699> and<00:16:38.940> horrendous aldarian and horrendous aldarian and horrendous but<00:16:40.259> there<00:16:40.380> are<00:16:40.500> three<00:16:40.620> images<00:16:40.740> to<00:16:41.100> consider but there are three images to consider but there are three images to consider in<00:16:41.519> this<00:16:41.699> chapter in this chapter

in this chapter the<00:16:44.519> first<00:16:44.639> image<00:16:45.000> appears<00:16:45.420> to<00:16:45.540> be<00:16:45.660> a<00:16:45.779> pencil the first image appears to be a pencil the first image appears to be a pencil sketch<00:16:46.500> of<00:16:46.980> erindus<00:16:48.139> and<00:16:49.139> we<00:16:49.380> can<00:16:49.500> see<00:16:49.620> perhaps sketch of erindus and we can see perhaps

sketch of erindus and we can see perhaps a<00:16:50.220> ship<00:16:50.459> in<00:16:50.639> the<00:16:50.759> background<00:16:51.000> here<00:16:51.300> but a ship in the background here but a ship in the background here but erindus<00:16:52.380> is<00:16:52.740> turned<00:16:53.100> towards<00:16:53.579> turned<00:16:54.240> away erindus is turned towards turned away

erindus is turned towards turned away from<00:16:54.600> the<00:16:54.720> sea<00:16:54.959> as<00:16:55.079> we<00:16:55.259> can<00:16:55.320> see<00:16:55.440> here<00:16:55.620> right from the sea as we can see here right from the sea as we can see here right she<00:16:56.100> turned<00:16:56.699> away<00:16:56.759> from<00:16:56.940> the<00:16:57.060> sea<00:16:57.240> and<00:16:57.420> turned

she turned away from the sea and turned she turned away from the sea and turned back<00:16:57.720> towards<00:16:58.019> the<00:16:58.199> land<00:16:58.320> of<00:16:58.860> numenor<00:16:59.339> which back towards the land of numenor which back towards the land of numenor which she<00:16:59.820> loves she loves

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beautiful color image of what appears to be<00:17:05.280> one<00:17:05.400> of<00:17:05.520> aldarion's<00:17:06.240> ships<00:17:06.360> in<00:17:06.600> the<00:17:06.660> Haven be one of aldarion's ships in the Haven be one of aldarion's ships in the Haven of<00:17:07.140> romena<00:17:07.559> I<00:17:08.339> would<00:17:08.459> say<00:17:08.640> this<00:17:08.939> is<00:17:09.240> most

of romena I would say this is most of romena I would say this is most likely<00:17:10.020> the<00:17:10.500> ship<00:17:10.679> that<00:17:10.860> was<00:17:10.980> referred<00:17:11.220> to<00:17:11.280> in likely the ship that was referred to in likely the ship that was referred to in the<00:17:11.640> opening<00:17:11.880> passage<00:17:12.240> I<00:17:12.480> read the opening passage I read

the opening passage I read ayambar<00:17:13.620> which<00:17:13.860> means<00:17:14.040> sea<00:17:14.280> dwelling<00:17:14.640> and ayambar which means sea dwelling and ayambar which means sea dwelling and this<00:17:14.939> was<00:17:15.179> of<00:17:15.480> course<00:17:15.600> kind<00:17:16.380> of<00:17:16.439> the<00:17:16.740> uh<00:17:17.220> the this was of course kind of the uh the

this was of course kind of the uh the The<00:17:17.760> Guild<00:17:18.179> House<00:17:18.360> of<00:17:18.660> the<00:17:18.780> venturers<00:17:19.260> right The Guild House of the venturers right The Guild House of the venturers right this<00:17:19.679> group<00:17:19.860> of<00:17:20.160> seafarers<00:17:20.760> that<00:17:21.419> aldarion this group of seafarers that aldarion

this group of seafarers that aldarion really<00:17:22.500> started really started really started and<00:17:24.600> then<00:17:24.720> the<00:17:24.900> last<00:17:25.020> image<00:17:25.380> we<00:17:26.280> see<00:17:26.400> in<00:17:26.640> this and then the last image we see in this

and then the last image we see in this chapter<00:17:26.939> is<00:17:27.600> a<00:17:27.780> pencil<00:17:28.020> sketch<00:17:28.439> of<00:17:29.040> a<00:17:29.160> plant chapter is a pencil sketch of a plant chapter is a pencil sketch of a plant and<00:17:30.540> I<00:17:30.840> believe<00:17:30.960> that<00:17:31.440> this<00:17:31.679> is<00:17:31.799> a<00:17:31.980> pencil

and I believe that this is a pencil and I believe that this is a pencil sketch<00:17:32.640> of<00:17:32.880> a<00:17:33.059> bow<00:17:33.240> of<00:17:33.720> oil sketch of a bow of oil sketch of a bow of oil that's<00:17:35.820> a<00:17:36.000> hard<00:17:36.179> word<00:17:36.299> to<00:17:36.480> say

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referred to in this chapter and towards the<00:17:44.100> end<00:17:44.220> of<00:17:44.340> it<00:17:44.460> in<00:17:44.640> a<00:17:44.820> somewhat<00:17:45.059> ominous<00:17:45.539> way the end of it in a somewhat ominous way the end of it in a somewhat ominous way so<00:17:47.160> a<00:17:47.820> wonderful<00:17:48.179> artwork<00:17:48.660> as<00:17:49.080> always<00:17:49.320> from

so a wonderful artwork as always from so a wonderful artwork as always from Alan<00:17:51.059> Lee Alan Lee Alan Lee um um um and<00:17:54.179> uh<00:17:54.660> you<00:17:54.900> know<00:17:54.960> I<00:17:55.200> think<00:17:55.380> I<00:17:55.980> I<00:17:56.400> at<00:17:56.880> the<00:17:57.000> end and uh you know I think I I at the end

and uh you know I think I I at the end of<00:17:57.179> the<00:17:57.240> day<00:17:57.299> I<00:17:57.480> really<00:17:57.600> just<00:17:57.720> skimmed<00:17:58.140> the of the day I really just skimmed the of the day I really just skimmed the details<00:17:58.620> of<00:17:58.740> this<00:17:58.860> chapter<00:17:59.039> there's<00:17:59.520> so<00:17:59.700> much details of this chapter there's so much

details of this chapter there's so much to<00:17:59.940> it<00:18:00.059> I<00:18:00.179> mean<00:18:00.299> this<00:18:00.419> is<00:18:00.600> a<00:18:00.840> really<00:18:01.020> really to it I mean this is a really really to it I mean this is a really really rich<00:18:01.500> chapter<00:18:01.820> the<00:18:02.820> whole<00:18:03.000> story<00:18:03.240> of<00:18:03.419> aldarian

rich chapter the whole story of aldarian rich chapter the whole story of aldarian and<00:18:04.140> horrendous<00:18:04.620> is and horrendous is and horrendous is it's<00:18:06.299> one<00:18:06.539> of<00:18:06.660> these<00:18:06.840> it's<00:18:07.200> it's<00:18:07.320> the<00:18:08.280> most it's one of these it's it's the most

it's one of these it's it's the most detailed<00:18:09.539> kind<00:18:10.020> of<00:18:10.200> story<00:18:10.799> of<00:18:11.160> this<00:18:11.280> nature detailed kind of story of this nature detailed kind of story of this nature that<00:18:11.880> we<00:18:12.059> have<00:18:12.299> of<00:18:12.780> the<00:18:13.020> second<00:18:13.140> age<00:18:13.380> yes<00:18:13.679> of

that we have of the second age yes of that we have of the second age yes of course<00:18:13.980> we<00:18:14.100> have<00:18:14.220> a<00:18:14.340> calabath<00:18:14.880> we<00:18:15.299> have<00:18:15.419> of<00:18:15.539> the course we have a calabath we have of the

course we have a calabath we have of the Rings<00:18:15.840> of<00:18:16.020> power<00:18:16.140> in<00:18:16.380> the<00:18:16.559> third<00:18:16.620> age<00:18:16.860> which Rings of power in the third age which Rings of power in the third age which goes<00:18:17.340> a<00:18:17.460> lot<00:18:17.520> into<00:18:17.700> the<00:18:17.940> history<00:18:18.059> of<00:18:18.299> the

goes a lot into the history of the goes a lot into the history of the second<00:18:18.539> age<00:18:18.780> but<00:18:19.380> when<00:18:19.500> it<00:18:19.620> comes<00:18:19.799> to<00:18:19.919> kind<00:18:20.100> of second age but when it comes to kind of

second age but when it comes to kind of this<00:18:20.400> you<00:18:21.000> know<00:18:21.059> into<00:18:21.419> a<00:18:22.020> particular<00:18:22.440> point<00:18:22.919> in this you know into a particular point in this you know into a particular point in time<00:18:23.840> uh<00:18:24.840> a<00:18:25.020> particular<00:18:25.320> generation<00:18:25.919> of time uh a particular generation of

time uh a particular generation of numenor<00:18:27.480> this<00:18:27.960> is<00:18:28.080> the<00:18:28.260> only<00:18:28.380> story<00:18:28.620> we<00:18:28.980> really numenor this is the only story we really numenor this is the only story we really have<00:18:29.460> in<00:18:29.820> detail<00:18:30.179> like<00:18:30.360> this<00:18:30.480> that<00:18:30.660> really have in detail like this that really

have in detail like this that really gives<00:18:31.080> us<00:18:31.260> a<00:18:31.500> sense<00:18:31.679> of<00:18:32.039> you<00:18:32.580> know<00:18:32.640> a<00:18:32.940> deep gives us a sense of you know a deep gives us a sense of you know a deep sense<00:18:33.360> of<00:18:33.480> personalities<00:18:34.140> and<00:18:34.440> play<00:18:34.880> and<00:18:35.880> it's

sense of personalities and play and it's sense of personalities and play and it's really<00:18:36.299> it's<00:18:36.840> really<00:18:37.020> an<00:18:37.200> important<00:18:37.500> turning really it's really an important turning really it's really an important turning point<00:18:37.980> it's<00:18:38.400> one<00:18:38.580> of<00:18:38.700> these<00:18:38.760> stories<00:18:39.000> that<00:18:39.120> I

point it's one of these stories that I point it's one of these stories that I just<00:18:39.360> think<00:18:39.480> to<00:18:39.600> myself<00:18:39.780> oh<00:18:40.140> man<00:18:40.440> Tolkien<00:18:41.400> why just think to myself oh man Tolkien why just think to myself oh man Tolkien why couldn't<00:18:41.700> you<00:18:41.940> have<00:18:42.059> written<00:18:42.419> more<00:18:42.660> stories

couldn't you have written more stories couldn't you have written more stories like<00:18:43.200> this<00:18:43.320> of<00:18:43.500> the<00:18:43.679> second<00:18:43.799> age<00:18:44.039> it<00:18:44.220> would like this of the second age it would like this of the second age it would have<00:18:44.520> been<00:18:44.700> such<00:18:45.059> a<00:18:45.360> treasure<00:18:45.720> to<00:18:46.080> have

have been such a treasure to have have been such a treasure to have um<00:18:47.340> and<00:18:47.640> I<00:18:47.700> know<00:18:47.820> at<00:18:48.000> one<00:18:48.179> point<00:18:48.299> he<00:18:48.539> thought<00:18:48.840> it um and I know at one point he thought it

um and I know at one point he thought it wasn't<00:18:49.140> really<00:18:49.320> worth<00:18:49.559> writing<00:18:49.980> the<00:18:50.100> story wasn't really worth writing the story wasn't really worth writing the story stories<00:18:50.760> of<00:18:50.820> the<00:18:50.940> second<00:18:51.059> age<00:18:51.299> because<00:18:51.480> it<00:18:51.660> was stories of the second age because it was

stories of the second age because it was a<00:18:51.960> dark<00:18:52.140> age a dark age a dark age but<00:18:54.179> when<00:18:54.480> I<00:18:54.600> read<00:18:54.780> things<00:18:54.960> like<00:18:55.140> this<00:18:55.320> I'm but when I read things like this I'm

but when I read things like this I'm like<00:18:55.740> no<00:18:56.520> you<00:18:56.880> could<00:18:56.940> have<00:18:57.059> written<00:18:57.419> lots<00:18:57.720> of like no you could have written lots of like no you could have written lots of stories<00:18:58.080> like<00:18:58.320> this stories like this

stories like this so<00:19:00.059> unfortunately<00:19:00.600> we'll<00:19:00.900> never<00:19:01.320> have so unfortunately we'll never have so unfortunately we'll never have tolkien's<00:19:02.160> own<00:19:02.400> uh<00:19:03.299> you<00:19:03.419> know<00:19:03.480> token's<00:19:03.900> own tolkien's own uh you know token's own

tolkien's own uh you know token's own writings<00:19:04.380> from<00:19:04.500> this<00:19:04.620> period<00:19:04.860> but<00:19:05.039> we<00:19:05.160> do<00:19:05.280> have writings from this period but we do have

writings from this period but we do have this<00:19:05.700> story<00:19:05.880> which<00:19:06.360> is<00:19:06.539> a<00:19:06.840> uh<00:19:07.620> you<00:19:07.799> know<00:19:07.860> which this story which is a uh you know which this story which is a uh you know which is<00:19:08.160> a<00:19:08.340> really<00:19:08.460> magnificent<00:19:09.059> story<00:19:09.360> with<00:19:09.660> so

is a really magnificent story with so is a really magnificent story with so much<00:19:10.020> more<00:19:10.200> to<00:19:10.320> be<00:19:10.440> said<00:19:10.559> about<00:19:10.740> it<00:19:10.919> so<00:19:11.280> I much more to be said about it so I much more to be said about it so I really<00:19:12.059> encourage<00:19:12.360> you<00:19:12.480> to<00:19:12.660> check<00:19:12.780> out

really encourage you to check out really encourage you to check out episodes<00:19:13.200> 183<00:19:13.980> 185<00:19:14.700> 186<00:19:15.360> and<00:19:15.539> 187<00:19:16.080> that's episodes 183 185 186 and 187 that's episodes 183 185 186 and 187 that's where<00:19:16.559> Greta<00:19:17.100> and<00:19:17.160> I<00:19:17.280> really<00:19:17.520> go<00:19:17.640> into<00:19:17.760> a<00:19:18.059> deep

where Greta and I really go into a deep where Greta and I really go into a deep discussion<00:19:18.660> of<00:19:19.200> the<00:19:19.559> Mariner's<00:19:20.039> wife<00:19:20.160> this discussion of the Mariner's wife this discussion of the Mariner's wife this whole<00:19:20.580> story<00:19:20.820> from<00:19:21.120> start<00:19:21.299> to<00:19:21.539> finish<00:19:21.860> we whole story from start to finish we

whole story from start to finish we probably<00:19:23.039> spend<00:19:23.460> you<00:19:23.880> know<00:19:24.000> my<00:19:24.240> guess<00:19:24.419> is<00:19:24.600> four probably spend you know my guess is four probably spend you know my guess is four hours<00:19:25.020> discussing<00:19:25.620> the<00:19:25.799> whole<00:19:25.980> thing<00:19:26.640> uh<00:19:27.240> but

hours discussing the whole thing uh but hours discussing the whole thing uh but as<00:19:27.539> for<00:19:27.720> this<00:19:27.900> episode<00:19:28.080> that<00:19:28.860> is<00:19:29.100> a<00:19:29.460> wrap as for this episode that is a wrap as for this episode that is a wrap all<00:19:30.900> right<00:19:31.020> everybody<00:19:31.200> keep<00:19:31.559> the all right everybody keep the

all right everybody keep the correspondence<00:19:32.160> coming<00:19:32.340> we'll<00:19:32.580> do<00:19:32.700> our<00:19:32.880> best correspondence coming we'll do our best correspondence coming we'll do our best to<00:19:33.179> respond<00:19:33.480> to<00:19:33.660> you<00:19:33.720> somehow<00:19:34.140> and<00:19:34.260> at<00:19:34.440> some to respond to you somehow and at some

to respond to you somehow and at some point<00:19:34.760> have<00:19:35.760> a<00:19:36.000> uh<00:19:36.539> expect<00:19:36.780> credit<00:19:37.140> to<00:19:37.440> return point have a uh expect credit to return point have a uh expect credit to return here<00:19:38.100> uh<00:19:38.640> you<00:19:38.820> know<00:19:38.880> shortly<00:19:39.299> probably<00:19:39.660> within

here uh you know shortly probably within here uh you know shortly probably within the<00:19:40.260> next<00:19:40.380> few<00:19:40.500> episodes<00:19:40.740> and<00:19:41.160> have<00:19:41.280> some the next few episodes and have some the next few episodes and have some announcements<00:19:42.299> to<00:19:42.780> make<00:19:42.900> as<00:19:43.140> far<00:19:43.320> as<00:19:43.500> kind<00:19:43.919> of

announcements to make as far as kind of announcements to make as far as kind of what<00:19:44.280> the<00:19:44.460> plan<00:19:44.580> is<00:19:44.820> going<00:19:45.120> forward<00:19:45.419> I<00:19:46.260> will<00:19:46.440> be what the plan is going forward I will be what the plan is going forward I will be continuing<00:19:46.980> to<00:19:47.160> do<00:19:47.280> probably<00:19:47.520> Standalone

continuing to do probably Standalone continuing to do probably Standalone episodes<00:19:48.299> on<00:19:48.840> the<00:19:49.020> fall<00:19:49.140> of<00:19:49.320> numenor<00:19:49.799> as<00:19:50.039> I episodes on the fall of numenor as I

episodes on the fall of numenor as I make<00:19:50.280> my<00:19:50.460> way<00:19:50.580> through<00:19:50.760> this<00:19:50.940> book<00:19:51.120> but<00:19:51.660> when make my way through this book but when make my way through this book but when Greta<00:19:52.320> returns<00:19:52.620> I<00:19:52.740> have<00:19:52.919> kind<00:19:53.100> of<00:19:53.160> a<00:19:53.280> plan<00:19:53.520> that

Greta returns I have kind of a plan that Greta returns I have kind of a plan that will<00:19:54.120> make<00:19:54.299> it<00:19:54.419> a<00:19:54.539> little<00:19:54.660> easier<00:19:54.960> for<00:19:55.260> her<00:19:55.380> to will make it a little easier for her to

will make it a little easier for her to be<00:19:55.620> involved<00:19:55.980> on<00:19:56.160> a<00:19:56.280> more<00:19:56.400> regular<00:19:56.640> basis<00:19:57.059> so be involved on a more regular basis so be involved on a more regular basis so I'm<00:19:57.720> really<00:19:57.900> looking<00:19:58.080> forward<00:19:58.380> to<00:19:58.500> telling I'm really looking forward to telling

I'm really looking forward to telling you<00:19:58.860> all<00:19:58.919> more<00:19:59.220> about<00:19:59.460> that you all more about that you all more about that all<00:20:01.380> right<00:20:01.559> well<00:20:02.160> thank<00:20:02.340> you<00:20:02.460> all<00:20:02.580> so<00:20:02.700> much<00:20:02.820> for all right well thank you all so much for

all right well thank you all so much for listening<00:20:03.240> and<00:20:03.360> thank<00:20:03.539> you<00:20:03.600> to<00:20:03.720> our<00:20:03.900> amazing listening and thank you to our amazing listening and thank you to our amazing patrons<00:20:04.500> especially<00:20:04.919> the<00:20:05.100> following<00:20:05.460> John<00:20:06.120> R patrons especially the following John R

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David of pints with Jack and Eric B all<00:20:33.539> right<00:20:33.720> thank<00:20:34.440> you<00:20:34.559> all<00:20:34.679> so<00:20:34.919> much<00:20:35.039> for all right thank you all so much for all right thank you all so much for watching<00:20:35.580> and<00:20:35.760> or<00:20:35.940> listening<00:20:36.360> we<00:20:36.840> will<00:20:37.020> talk watching and or listening we will talk

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