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WNBA “Pay Gap” Part 2 | April 17, 2024 | Hour 2

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Attention. You're listening to a Tod Huff radio show, America's home for Conservative not bitter Talk radio. Be advised. The content of this program has been documented to prevents and even cure liberalism, and listening may cause you to lean to the right. Here's your conservative but not bitter host, Todd Huff. All right, my friends, you have tuned in to America's home for conservative not bitter talk. It is my pleasure to be here. Thank you for

joining us. I used to say I don't care what you believe, and I don't to some degree, but I absolutely do in others as well, because those beliefs, it turns out, impacts the ability of this country to remain free. My friends, but I don't care if you have. I have leftists leanings, liberal beliefs. I hope that you're a constitutional conservative. But if you're not, and if you have other beliefs, I promise you so long it is as it is up to me, you and I could

get along just fine. I've learned that, of course, many leftists have a major problem with this. So that's on you, though, because I'm here to be radios, safe space, podcasts, safe space, so I welcome you as a listener to this program, and I want to tell you that we are going to continue a discussion that we had previously today talking about

the quote unquote w NBA pay gap. And by the way, if you've missed I'm going to have to set this up to frame up this discussion some of the things that we talked about previously, because I know people listen in a variety of different ways, and you know, if you missed it, whatever, whatever the case may be, if you didn't miss anyone, to go back and listen to that particular podcast, you can. You can do

that. The title OZ will make sure that that title has something about the WNBA pay gap in it, so you just find that and you can listen. And that's the show that I'm referencing here. This is kind of a continuation of sorts of that, and so we'll get into that. But I'm gonna have to lay some groundwork for the folks that don't that haven't listened to that episode, to that part of the program to set it up here today.

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of stuff on our website if you want to reference any of this. But the WNBA held their draft. Women's National Basketball Association held their draft on Monday. Caitlin Clark, who is a phenomenal talent who's changed women's basketball at the collegiate level, and I think and hope that she will change it on the professional level as well. As she's been drafted by the local team here where we are, by the Indiana Fever, and it was released that her contract

was something like seventy six thousand dollars a year. This, of course gets the predictable gasp response from the feminists, the leftists, the liberals, thinking that this is an example, a clear example of the gender pay gap in professional basketball. Now, there is a pay gap between the genders, but it's not a pay gap because of her gender. It's a pay gap because of the success of the two businesses. The NBA, i mentioned in the

previous episode, generates ten billion dollars with the B in annual revenue. The WNBA generates sixty million dollars with an M in annual revenue, and it's still losing between ten and twelve million dollars a year. Now, that's not all bad. Well, losing money is not good, but it's part of building a brand, building a business. If the NBA had a massive head start on the WNBA, as far as you know, it's had longer to longer of time to exist. But the NBA has gone through its struggles as well.

That's kind of where we left off the last time we talked about this. But the WNBA is losing ten to twelve million dollars a year. NBA subsidizes it to some extent. It's not clear to me how much or what that looks like, specifically because they've recently gotten investors seventy five million dollars from investors in the WNBA, So that's good. They're heading in the right direction. And so I went through and explained where the NBA was in the nineteen

eighties, which was a bad financial position. There weren't a lot of players that were connecting with the audience. There were some, I mean, Doctor j of course was there. We had Kareem Abdul Jabbar, but nothing like what they were about to embark upon with Magic Johnson and Larry Bird and then later the Detroit Pistons, the bad Is Michael Jordan. Those rivalries that these teams had, these players had with one another, the fights, the Lakers,

Celtics games, the dream team of the nineteen nineties. I mean, it became a phenomenon that didn't just stay within the United States borders, but expanded around the world, around the globe especially in nineteen ninety two with the Dream Team that had some of the best players that have ever played the game of basketball, players like Magic Johnson, players like Larry Bird, Charles Barkley, David Robinson, Karl Malone, Michael Jordan. Of course who else was

on that team. I think Mullen, Chris Mullen was on that team. You get the idea, some tremendous basketball players. They built the brand. John Stockton was on that team. They built the blank the brand. They grew the show or excuse me, the league, and they experienced massive success from that point in time. And I pointed out some of the ways that they did it. They did it through competition, they did it through rivalry,

they did it through an intensity. These players were not taking off the idea, the idea that Larry Bird or whoever Michael Jordan would have taken games off to rest in nineteen eighty nine or whatever is. They would never have considered that. In fact, Larry Bird's career was shortened due to a back injury, an injury that was either first initiated or made worse because he was working on his family's driveway in French Lick, Indiana, back in the I

don't know when that was. I want to say the eighties. He was you know, porn concrete and all that, and he hurt his back and it either aggravated it or it may have been the initial cause of the injury. These guys don't do that today, and I'm not saying they should. I'm not trying to do that. I'm just saying it was a dramatically different world and the players. Back in nineteen eighty the average salary was one hundred

and eighty thousand dollars. As they were heading into the nineties, that salary increased about five times to around nine hundred thousand dollars. And then today, the average NBA salary today is added around ten million dollars, with the league minimum being one million dollars. So how did we in the past thirty or so years have the average NBA salary increased ten times? Well, it's because of the success of the NBA. Now, you may not like it.

I'm not here to defend it. I'm just here to say that they've had unprecedented success in growing the league, especially when you factor when you factor in the worldwide phenomenon right China. Some of these plays I mean, Kobe Bryant was adored in lots of places, including China. Remember Yao Ming from China. He played in the NBA. He had a very talented guy, big guy, seven foot six. He had a shortened career because of injury.

But this increased interest or in the NBA around the world, and it's truly a global phenomenon and that can again be traced back to the Dream Team, the Dream Team when they played in the Olympics in nineteen ninety two. If you've never watched the documentary on the Dream Team, I encourage you to do that. They were signing autographs. They were signing autographs of other players, for other players that they were playing against as they were, you know,

before the game, after the game sort of thing. People just wanted to be, you know, shake their hands, have their pictures taken with these guys. They were getting their autographs. They were beaten people by thirty forty points. It was. It created a tremendous amount of buzz for the talent

level of the players that were in the NBA back in those days. And now we've even expanded it further with international players, players like Luka Donciz and Nikola Jokic and Giannis and Tenda Kupo, They're all over the NBA, these these European or these foreign born players not from Europe but from Australia. The Pacers have a player from Cameroon, Joel Embiid Cameroon. I mean worldwide phenomenon.

And you got to think about this, how do we get not only fans in these places, but how do we get to the point how do we get to the point where players are able to develop skills, because that means not only is there a fan base, but there's the ability to teach the game of basketball, not just in Europe, not just in Africa, not just in Australia, but around the entire world. Now there's different, a different brand of basketball. The European or the international style of basketball is

phenomenal because it teaches teaches fundamentally sound basketball. It teaches teaches things that translate onto the court into beautiful basketball ball movement, great passing, spacing, great shooting, all this sort of stuff. Anyway, so that can all be traced back in this timeline of growth. The point is the WNBA has not had much of any of that. Now, whatever degree that they've had in

that has largely been attributed to their association or connection with the NBA. So but they've not had a chance to really go through what the NBA went through. The WNBA hasn't what the NBA went through in the nineteen eighties and nineteen nineties. That's where they are today. And so Caitlin Clark, as phenomenal as she has been and as revolutionizing as she can potentially be to the WNBA,

it's not materialized yet. It's just like when Larry Bird and Magic Johnson were drafted back in what was that nineteen seventy nine, I guess right when they were drafted, that's where she is today. And when they were drafted in nineteen eighty, the average salary was one hundred and eighty thousand dollars. Some of these players were doing as well, like pouring concrete driveways or whatever for their parents as Larry Bird was doing. It was a different, different

world. And that's what the NBA is today. WNBA is today. Excuse me. Not only that the WNBA has fewer teams, they have twelve teams versus the NBA's thirty teams, they have fewer fans, they have fewer games, they have smaller TV contracts. Again, total revenue for the WNBA sixty million. Total revenue for the NBA is ten billion, with the B so dramatically different world. Now, I want to tell you some personal things about about me. I mean, I've got I've got some well I've got i

got a daughter who who plays basketball. I've got we've got three kids. I'm going to tell you a little bit about the connection here. This is not a personal thing for me, but I it is personally. It personally interests me. I hope the WNBA makes it. I hope they put a better product out there than they have in recent years. I hope that they quit trying to say for those that say this, and it's not necessarily the players, but Britney Griner said that she could beat DeMarcus Cousins in a one

on one game of basketball, that's absolutely asinine. I don't know that she would get a shot off, to be quite honest, she would be obliterated. That does not mean that does not mean that the WNBA cannot put a good quality product out there that people want to watch. Quit trying to be the NBA specifically. The game is different there's post players in the NBA. Excuse me, the WNBA really doesn't happen in the NBA anymore because how the game has changed. There be who you are. Just look at this as

a great opportunity and capitalize on it. Deliver a good product, Let the players develop rivalries, let them compete, and let's see what happens here. Don't moan about the fact that you're not the NBA yet. You're not and you probably never will be. But that doesn't mean you still can't have great

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Son, daughter, daughter, fourteen year old son, twelve year old daughter, ten year old daughter. Son is he plays, He plays Soccer's a powerhouse. He's kicks the ball so hard. I mean, it's I don't want to be anywhere near it. It's like a missile. It's like a missile coming at you, a missile that the Biden administration gave the green light from Iran to fire into Israel allegedly. It's like that. He's into aviation. He wants to be a pilot. He's on a simulator all the

time. Smart kid, you know, and good at soccer, but didn't play basketball. I want to get into this in a moment. My oldest daughter, our oldest daughter, she's twelve. She plays soccer, athletic. She played basketball in the past. My son did too, but neither one of them want to continue. She plays soccer as well, but she also has crochet business. She has a serious crochet business. I'm not even kidding about this. She kind of taught herself to crochet, I don't know,

a year or so ago, something like that. And I mean she's got too she's made by hand custom two hundred and fifteen, I think, is what she told me. I just asked her this morning, how many items do you have? Evy two hundred and fifteen handmade items that she is, you know, looking forward to selling it at Kraft around the area. She loves doing this, by the way, very very talented. I'm blown away

by what she can do. If you're interested, if it's your thing, if you're on Instagram, she's got a page called yarn Buddies by Evie. Yarn Buddies by Evie. That's our daughter. But she's not into basketball. She is. She's into that. She's into starting that business and running it and making her her yarn buddies, as she says. But our youngest daughter, she is a basketball player. She she has played soccer too, But basketball, I think I think it's her sport, and she loves it.

She practices all the time, she thinks about it, she watches it, she tries to learn the moves. I mean, she's she's pretty good, and so I mean I care about the success of women's sports. I care. I'm not saying I would never put any pressure on her if she even wants to do it, if she wants to play at Cotton College or whatever, then you know, I'll support her and try to, you know, encourage her and help her to do that however I can. If she doesn't,

that's fine too. But I can certainly see where she's going to be the one who's going to, at least most likely from our kids, be involved in these things. And that's a good thing. And I want the sports to succeed, and I would want if she was ever good enough or whatever to be a professional player. I would like her to be able to make as much money as she can. But we can't just wish something into existence. These things have to materialize over time. It takes time to build

this. It takes time to build this, and you have to have the right players. You have to you have to have the right ingredients, and I think the WNBA has that right now. So I'm not against the success. But what I am against is about pushing a narrative that has no basis in reality. Caitlin Clark is not getting paid less because she's a woman. That is patently ridiculous and absurd. It's demonstrated in so many ways I've gone through in the past what one and a half episodes. Now, this is

not a legitimate criticism. And then of course people want to extrapolate that and then apply that to everything else. And I know that it's well, I'm going to say something, I'll probably tick somebody off, but hey, what else is new? I know for some people it's you know, if we're having difficulty or struggling, it's just easier to blame something, to blame the gender pay gap, or to blame whatever it is instead of looking in the mirror and saying, Okay, what are my skills? How am I using

those? Am I am I working my hardest? Have I sacrificed enough time? It takes time. It just takes time. I've been doing this. I've been doing this for almost nine years. It's amazing to me. I've had people say, man, that's that's quick. You've you've you've had some quick success. No, it might appear quick if you just heard about the program last week, and you know your your historical frame of reference for our program is a week. You think, man, that's pretty good. But

it's not been a week. It's been nine years, and in fact, the dream can be traced back to the late nineties. So for me, there's a lot of growth that happens below the surface, even when no one even knows you're doing it. Our daughter's out here shooting and practicing, not just I mean not just screwing around, like doing drills and stuff. Now, the point is that's that's just part of the process. It's part of the process for an individual player, but it's also the part of the process

for the league, for the brand it has to develop. It has to be given time, and if I'm not succeeding, if I'm not personally succeeding here, if you're not succeeding in what you're doing, we have to ask the questions, what am I doing wrong? Have I have I Do I not have the talent? Do I need to get better at something? Have I not given myself enough time? These are all legitimate questions. Instead it

as saying, well, people hate me. Are the world's all a bunch of sexists, or the world's all a bunch of haters of this group or that group or anything else. We have to look in the mirror and say, Okay, here's where we are, Here's where we want to get. How do I do that? Right? That's the that's the adult way of

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you fifteen percent off of your order. Quick Time Out is an order here, my friends. When we get back, I'm going to continue this discussion, maybe share a couple of little stories here. But there's so many teachable moments about this WNBA contract of Caitlin Clark gender pay gap. It's right there

again. It's a catalyst, it's an open door. It's an opportunity to have conversations with those that maybe normally have no interest in these things, but it is an opportunity to share and to use this as a bridge to hopefully getting people to hear and receive truth. But I've got to take a break my friend. Sit tight back in just a minute, come back to my friends. There is no gender pay gap in the w NBA. There is a pay gap between well, there's no gender pay gap in the way that

they mean that, which is, hey, you're a woman. Let me go to the the salary list of what we pay women and you open it up and then you pay them that. No, no, no, no, that's not it at all. The gender pay gap that exists, and so far as it does exist, is that the WNBA has not had the success of the NBA. Therefore they have less money to pay and therefore people get paid less by the WNBA. It's not complicated at all. It may be a hard pill to swallow for some people. I don't understand that.

I just I mean, I guess I do in a way because it's it's as though there's they feel like they're saying that the women are inferior to men. No, it's they've not had the success with the WNBA that they've had in the NBA. The players aren't as strong, they're not as talented, they're not as overall good. There are things that I think the women may do better, but they're not better than the men. In fact, I remember you remember Serena Williams. Tennis players or were in a different sport now,

but tennis. You know, tennis you're separated by net, so there's no physical, you know contact, You're hitting the ball back and forth to one another with the tennis racket over the net. And she made the comment that she if she played Andy Murray, who at the time, I don't know. I don't know if he was ever number one. He was very highly ranked. He might have been number one for some time. She said, if I played Andy Murray, he would beat me six six loves six

loves six zero six zero. Women play two sets in a match, or well, they pay played best of three. Men play best of five. So she was just even saying, you know, by the way women's rules, she would lose six zero, six zero. And she said I would lose in just a couple of minutes. She said, I can't. And Serena was a strong, talented tennis player, dominant in female tennis. She said, it's a different game. They hit the ball harder, you know,

they're they're longer. It's harder to get my shot past them. All that kind of stuff. What's so hard about admitting that I just those guys are better at tennis than me. The NBA players are better at basketball. To me, I couldn't stop. I couldn't stop the most. The person that sat on the bench the longest, the person a person who played in the NBA five years ago, if he wanted to play me one on one,

I don't think I could get a shot off. I don't. Maybe if I just threw it over my head and he wasn't, I don't know. I don't know that I get a shot off. That's not some sort of an insult to myself, perhaps as an insult to my game, But I don't. I don't have a game anymore. I don't have a game. We did win, and that's a story I was going to tell you really quickly. Here nineteen ninety six, our team we won the sectional championship

at my school. This was back Indiana was single class basketball, so no matter the size of your school you played for, there was one champion. So the biggest schools played the smallest schools. In fact, there's a school my class. We had ninety nine kids in my class. There's a school that was just the next school district to the west of US called Eminence High

School. Look them up. I don't know how many kids they had in the class, but I know that their senior pictures, their whole class senior pictures are on the wall in the high school, and it looks about like the same number of kids I would have had in a classroom. Say, I don't know, twenty five, thirty five, maybe forty. I'm guessing kids in the class. And that was Eminence. But they were expected to play the team that had, you know, thousands of kids in a class

at in high school. That's what we did back then. Now we don't have that. We have class basketball, but we had single class one class back then. It was in fact, I think it was the last year for it. Nineteen ninety six, our team had not won our sectional where we were a small school, we had not won in fifty four years, but we won it that year, my senior year. I got to be honest, I didn't even know what happened. I knew we played, I

knew there was another round, but I didn't know what happened. I didn't know where the game was we ended up playing. We played that game at Indiana State University. The court that Larry Bird Built in Terre Hate, Indiana, and it was packed. There was so much talent on the basketball court that day, not for me, but from the There were players that you know, played at multiple colleges, the Graves, White River Valley, they were in that regional. We played Terre Hate North, We got beat Terrehote

North ended up going to the Elite eight or maybe the final four. Anyway, it was a tremendous experience for us. Awesome, awesome ex experience. Tons of people at that game, but I remember when we won the section. All the game before that. You may have heard you've heard one of our partners on here, TJ. Friegie. He played with me in high school. He's been a friend of mine for a long time. Freji and Fregi auctions in marketing. Check him out Fregie auctioneers dot com and you can

see some of their upcoming auctions. That's not the point of this. The point of this is to tell you that in high school, Friji was We had a little bit different personalities. I was a little bit more reserved. Frigie was a little bit of a talker, maybe even a lot of a talker. Trash talker not afraid to jack it up. He was our sixth man, and he he came in locked and loaded, ready to fire that basketball up, run his mouth a little bit, all in good fun,

I mean, nothing bad. But when we won the sectional, I remember this. We had our sectional trophy. See, we weren't supposed to win that game because we played another school. It was Moresville was the name of the school, which is in the same county as US, the next school

district to our east, and we weren't supposed to win. In fact, the radio broadcast the night before had the two bigger schools in the quarter or the semi finals of the chance of the sectional, and the people on the radio said that that was I think the coach even said for Morsil that was the championship game. Turns out it wasn't, and there was another game to be played, and we won, and Freji wanted to take wanted to take

the bus into Mooresville, which was not far from where we were. Take the bus into Morswill after winning take the sectional championship trophy to the Taco Bell in Mooresville. Coach agreed with this. I was not on board with this, but I was on the bus and I was gonna eat some Taco Bell. It was probably eleven eleven thirty at night, I don't know, heck, maybe midnight at that point, but we stroll in there in the bus, get out at Taco Bell. I believe Friji carries the trophy in anyway,

Basketball is a sport. I love it. It's got a lot of connections with with me. My daughter plays, my wife played coach today, my dad coached me. I love it right, and I want there to be success in women's basketball. But I also know that that doesn't happen just by snapping your fingers and wishing. And it also doesn't come from trying to

pretend something is the truth when it isn't. And so what's going to make women's basketball better is the competition, the rivalries the players like the Caitlin Clarks, and maybe one day she can be the catalyst like Magic and Bird were in the nineteen eighties to the NBA and make it a massively successive league. But just like Magic and Bird did not benefit from the contracts that these guys have today, Caitlin Clark isn't going to benefit if they have the same level

of success as the NBA did. Proportionally, she's not going to benefit the same way that the future players are going to benefit, which leads to the next question. The next thing that I find interesting this discussion, this incessant discussion about who's the greatest player at this on Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Wilk Chamberlain, Oscar robertson whatever. Your list of players at my starting five, here they are, and people list them out, and it's fun to

engage in those discussions. I get all of that. But my friends, the truth is, the truth is when you have a league that's successful, then the next generation are the beneficiaries of that. So for example, I'm always amazed we had that eclipse go over here last week. If you haven't seen that, I mean I talked about that on the program. Absolutely once

in a lifetime, beautiful, mesmerizing event. Those few minutes of totality are words fail me as to just how surreal and beautiful and just captivating that was. Well, I'm always amazed at you know, today, we all benefit from the knowledge of what NASA or scientists that we've built upon for generations. But I think how diligent were the dudes that figured this out to begin with. How smart were the people who looked up and said, no, no, no, that's not a star, that's a planet, and that planet

is following in orbit. It's orbiting. It's orbiting the Sun. We're not the son's not moving. We're moving and the son's not even really we're on an elliptical orbit. So there's not it's not just that we're orbiting the Sun. There's another. If you know anything about math, you know that there's two points that things orbit around in the in the shape of an ellipse. There's something else that's at the other end of that of that orbit, which

is a whole nother discussion for a whole other day. But the people that figure that stuff out, we benefit from that. So we start based upon their knowledge. So the players of the nineties started with the knowledge of what

they learned from watching magic. Johnson and Larry Bird did do magic. Johnson and Larry Bird watched the players before them, you know, Jerry West, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, whoever these you know, Bob Coosey, I don't know, but they they watched and they learned and they built upon that,

and that's where we are today. If Magic Johnson and Larry Bird and Michael Jordan were growing up in today's world in basketball, their skill level, they would be taught the same things that the current group of players are taught that this generation is being taught. And they would have been, you know, given a strength and training regimen that would have been they would have been faster and better jumping and all this kind of stuff, better shooting, all

these sorts of things. They would have benefited tremendously. So we can't look at these things. It's hard to comprehend the total improvement, the total impact that a certain player, our a certain mind has on an industry, a development of a society, development of a league. But you don't benefit. The people that benefit financially are the ones that come down the road. I gotta take a break, quick time out my friends back in just a minute.

You know, my friends. I remember when Rush Limbaugh used to say he would get messages from the stick to the issue's crowd. They didn't like it when Rush would talk about golf or something else, anything that wasn't pertaining to the issues of the day. And I get it, I do get it. Some of you might be thinking that we've spoken a little bit too much about basketball in the past couple of episodes here where we've talked about this.

But I think and I can respect and understand you know where you're coming from. But I think that that's I think that this is one of the biggest opportunities and teachable moments that exist that can connect with the pop culture, that can connect with people who don't normally have an interest in politics, and so I think it's a tremendous opportunity. That's why we've spoken about it so

much. That's why I think there's so many things that this example of something that's happening right before our eyes that people are talking about, arguing about, debating. There's so many things that we can use as potential just potential lessons, just overall teachable teachable moments. Because it's an open invitation to talk about the gender pay gap or the perceived gender pay gap. It's an opportunity to

talk about how business works. It's an opportunity to talk about entrepreneurism and how it's different to run a small business than it is to run a big business. You know, entrepreneurs and CEOs were not the same thing. I mean an entrepreneur, someone who starts something to pursue a dream, a passion.

Just maybe they started in their bedroom closet in twenty fifteen, started a podcast, not knowing where it would end up, right, not knowing where it would end up, not knowing if it would be picked up as a popular, you know, radio show, any of that thing. Much like we did here, there's no guarantees. We don't see the end of the story.

In fact, when you're reading some of these stories in the Bible, if you read the Bible, you read some of these stories and you think, oh, well, why didn't he just do this or why didn't she do that? Because they didn't know the end of the story. My friends, entrepreneurs don't know the end of the story. And I don't want to say the WNBA is entrepreneurial, but it's it's kind of a pseudo thing,

right. It's under the brand of the NBA. The NBA, the Big Brother kind of carried it along, protected it, financed it, all that sort of stuff. But it was something new and there's something still entrepreneurial about it. And CEOs of you know, corporate America, they deal with different things than I have to deal with too. I'm not minimizing their job by any stretch of the imagination. I certainly I couldn't do it. I'm not

wired for that. I'm not wired to have to deal with HR and compliance and maybe a little bit too much like Michael Scott in that way, or DEI or any of these things. So the WNBA is not the NBA, but there's no guarantees. There were no guarantees for either. There were no guarantees for the NBA in the nineteen eighties when Magic Johnson and Larry Bird stepped onto the scene, and there were no guarantees for the WNBA when they started,

or even when today Caitlin Clark steps on the scene. We're talking about people who have to take a risk to grow it into something they don't know. You know, we have the hindsight. Now hindsight's twenty twenty. As they say, the NBA, we can look back and say, oh, yeah, well, now I can see why that helped or that didn't help. But at the time, you don't know. You don't know how the story's written or how the end is written of the story. You're living it

every day. It's exciting, it's what we do here, but it's also very uncertain and just like Burden, Magic kind of took a risk. I mean, they were getting paid, but they they took a risk to be involved with something and to build something that is much different. They became something much bigger and greater than it was when they when they started. And today I don't want to make too big of a fuss about this, but you know these NBA players today, it's a different world. They didn't have to

build it. In fact, today I would say that at least some of these NBA players, if not more, have become prima donnas because they didn't know what it took to build it. Reminds me of Obama telling Joe the Plumber back in two thousand an eight. Remember Joe the Plumber, He told him, you didn't build that. When talking to Joe the Plumber about Joe the Plumber's plumbing business, he said, no, you didn't build it. What happened was we built the roads that came in there. That's why you

have a business. But people like Obama, people like those that live in corporate America that talk about golden parachutes, not to be confused with golden showers, but golden parachutes, These retirement packages, stock packages of multiple millions of dollars, have no idea the risk, the uncertainty, the turmoil, the heartache that comes from being an entrepreneur. And entrepreneurs put it on the line each and every day, each and every day. And that's really what Caitlin

Clark is stepping into it. It's got a foundation. I don't want to overstate it, but there's something there that she's stepping into that just requires her to have to put it on the line. It's going to depend upon her and these other players and their involvement and their ability to grow this. And I like the fiery nature of Caitlin Clark, and I think she's got the

capacity to do this. I hope she succeeds. I'm not in you a fan of the NBA or wall Excuse me, I'm not a fan of the WNBA in particular, but I've never been closer to being a fan of the WNBA, and Caitlin Clark is a huge reason for that. She's gonna be coming here to the Fever. I hope she succeeds. She's got this fiery nature, she's got this ability to have rivalries, and she makes it interesting,

and she's competitive so much. Show that, so much, showed that her dad mouth the words shut up to her from the stands at the w NBA game or excuse me the NCAA game. And there's a part of me that loves that part of me that translates to Trump as well. But I don't have time to get into that. But anyway, my friends, I gotta go SDG.

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