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Donald Trump put out a video on Truth Social detailing his stance on abortion. He believes the issue should be left to the states. This has upset the pro-life movement who believe there should be a national ban on abortion. We discuss the moral and political debates on this issue.

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here. Thank you for joining us. You know today I want to talk since it's an issue that's front and center now in this campaign. I want to spend some time talking about abortion. And that's because Trump now says that abortion legislation should be left to the states. I'm looking here at a CNN article. You might have seen this in any number any number of places. So I want to talk about this today. I want to frame the issue of abortion. I want to frame what's going on here, at least from

a political electoral process. We're in the heart of a campaign. But I also want to make sure that we properly understand and identify what we should be fighting for in the pro life for dare I say, the abortion abolitionist movement. So we'll get to that and do course here today, my friends. But I want to remind you, first and foremost that my Pillow, Mike Lindell, my pillow, they have a twenty five dollar extravaganza. Now you

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let's talk here about this issue of abortion CNN. I'm referencing this article in CNN, which is written by four journalists. Don't know why it takes forge. Actually it says, wait, this is listed. It looks like it's got four journalists names or people that are at least wanting to identify as journalists. And then it's they're all separated by commas. And then it says CNN

at the end. So I don't know if the CEO of CNN is involved with this or what stockholders, but CNN has at least four people that are teaming up to write this article. Trump says abortion legislation should be open, should be left. I should say to the states now, and we're going to reference this. This will be on the stack of Stuff page at Toddhefshow dot com. But first and foremost, let's identify what's happening here. We have an election. We are in the midst of a campaign. It is

inevitable that it is now Trump versus Joseph Robinette bribery. Barring something crazy at one of Trump's trial that could lead to some further consequence or development that could potentially land Trump in the clink or some such thing. And even if it does, I mean, I think, folks, Trump Trump is going to

be Trump is going to be running for president. I can't think of of any scenario where he's not, but this, this is what they're hoping for, or if something comes up at the convention, the Democrat convention, which is there's been speculation about. You know, I think that they're content having Biden as their their guy, not because he's qualified, because simply because if

they can use him to win the election. The folks that are behind the scenes making the decisions are totally content with having any person candidly as the as the front of the operation. But so that being said, it's it's intense put times, and so Trump is happy. Trump is happy to be out there campaigning on some key issues, for example, the economy. He wants people to remember. He wants people to remember what they were experiencing under the

Trump economy versus what they are experiencing now under the Biden economy. I just read the other day, maybe this week, in fact, that groceries have increased, the average grocery bill has increased forty percent in the three and nearly one half years since Biden assumed office in January of twenty twenty one. So we've got a forty percent there increase there, We've got inflation off the charts We've got massive amounts of government federal debt piling up. People are living in

incredibly tense economic times. They're being told by these puppets and pundits in the media that this is a better economy than they believe. What are they talking about, what are their problems? They're just not sophisticated enough to realize how special this economy is. But people know better, and so Trump is prepared and happy for this election, this campaign to focus on the economy. Trump's also content with this conversation about American security or dare I say, the stability

of the entire world. Trump is happy to point out, happy to point out that there was no Russia Ukraine war until Biden assumed office. Trump is happy to point out that there was no botched Afghanistan withdrawal when he was in office. That happened on Biden's watch. Now, the Biden administration wants you

to believe that Trump is the one. It was Trump's plan, in Trump's timeline and so forth, and so they want to blame Trump for this, even though anyone with half a percentage of brain power could say, hey, the current president and adjust plans right if the timing isn't off, if things aren't ready, if we're not in the position to withdraw and not cause complete chaos, then we probably should delay that. Biden did not do that, and of course we know what happened as a direct result of that. We

also know that there's problems all around the world. There was not they're October seventh, which of course is when the pat the Hamas terrorists in Gaza decided to attack the Israeli citizens on October seventh of last year. That had not happened on Trump's watch as well. The world is a much dangerous place when America is led by a president who is weak, because in fact, American weakness is provocative. It is the biggest, most guaranteed way to provoke your

enemy. And so that's the world that we now live in. There is nothing, there is nothing measurable today that is better than it was. Excuse me, well, that is better than it was back in twenty twenty. And that's even taking into account COVID. I mean, Trump's last year of his presidency was completely just enveloped in the COVID reaction and everything that came from

that. But the three years prior to that, America was in wonderful shape, and the average American knows it. And so we're in this campaign and that the Trump has virtually every advantage that there is. Add to that, add to that that people who vote for Trump are voting for Trump. People that are voting for Biden are not actually voting for Biden, They're voting against

Trump. And so there's really nothing that this administration can do except for hope that Trump makes some political missteps and that they can capitalize and make this campaign about something other than any of the things that I've talked about, and one of those things, which it's an important issue. Let me say this, I'm just talking about it from the political perspective. I am pro life. I am a person who dare one you could say I'm very close to or

maybe even could be maybe could even be identified as an abortion abolitionist. And so and science is on my side, by the way, let me explain this. Science is on my side. But before actually, before I do that, before I do that, let me take let me take a quick little breather here and tell you about Nick neck Naturals. Nicknack Naturals, one

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things here. Let's let's pause that discussion, and let's say, let's say I want to talk to the people who have had an abortion, or even even people who there are there are people whose mothers attempted an abortion on them in the womb. And this there's a lot of emotion that comes with us, a lot of a lot of a lot of negative emotions, a lot

of sadness, a lot of guilt. I've shared before. I don't think there's a group currently at our church, but there is a group of women that used to meet at our church who had had abortions in the past, and they were there to help one another. This is this is something that's often overlooked, are the women who have abortions and then carry with them extreme amounts of guilt and sorrow and sadness and just absolute heart brokenness. And it's

ignored in many instances by the media and so forth. It's not ignored here because we're going to talk about abortion, and I'm going to try to talk about it as a matter of factly as I can and why I'm against it, and we're going to talk about the political aspect there of Trump in this twenty or twenty twenty four campaign. And so, but I like to say this up front for people who have had abortions, because this is not about

heaping guilt upon you. This is about looking forward. The God of this universe, through his son Jesus Christ, is here to forgive and to help you heal. He is not here to continually heap insult or grief upon you. He's here to forgive. And there are groups that will help you do that, help you navigate that. I just want to be mindful of that off the top, because oftentimes this is completely ignored. And so I'm even

if you want to email me, I think I can connect you. I know I know one particular individual who could get you plugged in if you need some sort of a support group or whatever. I welcome you to do that. I do. You can email Todd at todefshow dot com and I will put you in touch with Robin or someone on her you know in her group that could help direct you. Or you can even if you prefer, you can text this three one seven two one zero twenty eight thirty and just just

say abortion Support group or something and will help you from there anyway. So I want to say that upfront. Now, so let's talk about science an abortion, because science is on I'm pro science, my friends. I'm pro science. I'm pro reality. I'm pro the way things are and the way things are. Science has proven beyond any reasonable doubt that life, that life begins a conception, biologically, logically, every way that you can think of

it. Life begins at conception, when the egg cell and the sperm cell, meat fertilization takes place. Science has proven, my friends, that there's an explosion of light and that there is a new life form that's created. Now, I fully recognize that the stage at which that life form is as far as its overall development, it is at the very beginning. In fact, it does not have There is not an earlier phase of development prior to

that point. So it is at the very very beginning of development. But to say that it is not human, and to say that that life is not life is a lie straight from the pits of hell, my friends. It is an absolute lie. It is one hundred percent a human life, one hundred percent. And one of the jobs of government, one of the jobs of government is to protect life right is to protect life liberty, and

our pursuit of happiness is to create a society where that is possible. It's up to us to make the decisions and to make the choices and to walk the path. But the government has a legitimate function and responsibility, especially as it pertains to the protection of human life. If government cannot protect human life, if government cannot do something to preserve life, then you can see how quickly society can devolve into something that looks like it's from the purge or some

such thing. So life begins a conception. Scientifically, logically, it's absolutely absolutely certain that that is the case. There's no ambiguity, nothing else, a clump of cells. If someone is pushing that narrative on you, we're just a clump of cells. Well, some human being at the early stages of development is quote unquote a clump of cells, then the rest of us

are nothing more than clumps of cells. Either. It's a way to dehumanize and to make the life not sound like a life, but rather as something that they can as disposable. And so there are people like me, people like me who say the human life begins at conception. We have a responsibility to protect that human life. In fact, if we're not protecting human life, what else, What other more fundamental things should government be involved with?

I mean, studying the migratory patterns of some shrimp in the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. I mean, what's going on here? This is of course at the top of top of the list. Now on the other side, on the quote unquote pro choice side, there's a couple of different groups. The first is the rabid what I would deem or what I would call the pro abortion side. These are the people who are leading the charge. These are the people that are standing at the microphone at the podium at these rallies,

who are proud of the number of abortions that they've had. These are people who just cheer from the mountaintops how many times they have terminated the life of a child in their womb, as though it's something to be proud of. This the leaders, and this is let me be clear, this is not where most people fall. This is not where most people fall. But the people leading this movement I would I would call them as pro abortionists. These are people who want to live a certain way in their life and they

don't want any consequence. They don't believe. They don't want to be They don't want to deal with the reality that there is a morality, and that when there is a morality that exists in the universe, there must be a moral lawgiver. That moral lawgiver, of course, is God Almighty. They don't want to be accountable. They don't want to be told how to live their lives. They want to live according to the flesh. They want to

live according to their pleasures. And if there's an inconvenience along the way, they want to go out there and have sex without consequences. And something comes up, like an unwanted pregnancy, they want it to be a quick, easy fix so that they can continue to live a lifestyle, continue to live in such a way that only makes this more likely more likely to happen. They don't want any consequences, they don't want any any name, they don't

want any baggage with this. They want they want what they want, and they are prepared to kill. They're prepared to kill in order to get it. Now, this is not most Americans, well, I think most Americans. The most pro choice Americans fall is they fall in a category where they are. I think I would say that they're guilty. They feel guilty, and what do I mean by this? I think these are people who, when they look back on their youth, they think I was engaging in activities

that could have absolutely led to an unwanted pregnancy. And I don't want to tell someone who actually has to deal with that consequence what they can do because I didn't have to deal with it. I didn't have to deal with the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy, and so I don't want to tell someone else what to do. I feel guilty, I feel like a hypocrite. But

then the question becomes if what I said is true? And by the way, at one is if what I said is true, and that life begins a conception, And the question comes, at what point as a freedom loving American, at what point, as an American who understands that we have a responsibility to protect human life, at what point can we say I can't condone something that terminates the life of another human being. And I think when it's

framed like that, I've actually had these discussions. I've said to people before, Look, what do you I mean if you can't tell them? They can't take the life of an unborn child in their womb because that child is not fully developed. What's logically to stop you from telling them? What's logically I should say, going to allow you to then say to them with a straight face, you can't kill your newborn child. Well, Todd, that's

different. It's out of the womb. Well why is it different? Explain to me why, because all it is is just further down the developmental process the child. We've had three babies in this house. The baby's still require attention. They're not autonomous, they're not independent, they still have needs. They are still dependent upon the mother and the father. So I want to talk about this and I want to get back into what Trump is now out there saying. But before I do that, I got to take a quick

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back in just a minute. Welcome back, my friends. We're talking here today about this issue of abortion because Trump is now out there saying it should be left to left to the states to determine what to do with abortion. This, of course, has upset people in the pro life community because recently Trump was talking about potentially a federal ban on abortions at fifteen weeks. Now he's out there saying that this should be left to the states. Some people

feel like, what's going on here. Other people say that this is just the reality of where we are in twenty twenty four when it comes to electoral politics. I laid out kind of the campaign as it's going right now. The left wants Trump to do something like an abortion band because they will then make the campaign about preserving the quote unquote rights of women to terminate the life of their unborn child, and so they're looking for that opportunity, and so

there's a political game that's being played here. Now. I want to try to look at this from as many different directions as I can. The first is what is right. The first is what is right? Is what is right, and what is best is that abortion abortion be ultimately eradicated. What is best is for humanity to understand and come to grips with the fact that an unborn child is in fact, that it is fully human, though it is not fully developed, and taking the life of an unborn child is not

something that moral societies do. I know that there are complexities. I know that there are that there are things that make some of these situations absolutely just awful when you factor in rape and other things and other things like that. But I also think in fact, I was having a conversation with the young lady the other day when I said, not relatively recently, and she's pro choice. But it's interesting again the number of people who say they're pro choice,

but they say I would never personally do it. I just don't want to tell someone else again, I think a lot of that stems from guilt, as I said last segment, but guilt aside what you did aside. The question is what is right, what is moral? What is just? And to take the life of an unborn child is not a moral thing to do. That child is quite literally incapable of being guilty of anything. That

child did not do anything wrong. Justifying those actions. The only things that are justifying the well in the vast majority of cases, the vast majority of abortions are done out of convenience or just personal desire. I don't want to have a child, I want to live this life. I don't want the consequence. And that's really awful. It's really awful if you stop and think.

Actually, you don't have to stop and think about it. It's just really, really awful that people are prepared to make those to make those decisions, to take those actions, and we've sanitized it, right, we've sanitized I don't know. Recently, there was a video going around of medical students.

I think that maybe they have medical students or pre med students. They were passing out from watching a C section, and of course that led to the inevitable comments of wait, till they see an abortion, right, because we haven't seen that what we have if we dig. But a lot of people have no idea. It sounds like they want it to sound like just this, you know, it's like taking an advil for a headache or something. That's what they want it to sound like. But that's not what's happening.

There's so much more going on there, taking the life of an unborn child, and we can't just blow that off as though as though it's nothing. So that's the moral position. The moral position. I will say this too. I will say this too. If what I've been told by women who have had abortions and they struggle with guilt and they look for healing and and well, I guess reconciliation with God and instances or just to be able to heal from that that trauma. I mean, that's kind of a second

a second degree impact of abortion is down the line. It's, of course the immediate decision to terminate the life of the unborn child, but then it's also the psychological impact that it's going to have on the vast majority of women who've decided who've decided to have an abortion. And so if that's true, then we have an obligation to at least make sure at least I'm saying, at least make sure that these women understand that this is not something that you

just flippantly engage in. This is something that quite possibly can haunt you for the rest of your life. And again, as I said last segment, we serve a God who's willing to forgive and to heal. But it's one thing to say that for something you've already done. It's another thing to say

that for something you are trying to justify to do in the future. That's a really dangerous place to be is when someone would basically say, well, God's gonna forgive me I'm going to do this atrocious thing anyway, That's a very very dangerous game to be playing. So there's the moral side of this. There's the political side of this. Right politically, I mean, the realities are, where where is the country today? Where's the country today?

Could we pull off a national fifteen week abortion band? And then of course there's people who say, why would you just not of fifteen weeks? Why can't you go all the way? Right? And the reality is is, I don't know that you can. I don't know that you can't. Now, now that opens the debate as to whether or not you say, well, let's invest our political capital here into defending these unborn human beings defending their lives. This is absolutely worth worth doing. And so there's political back and

forth on that. By the way, I agree, but you have to also at least acknowledge that if you don't have political power, you wouldn't even have the overturning of Roe versus Wade, right, that happened because of Trump. Now do I agree with Trump on this? No, I don't on this. But do I understand the political realities? And it's it's it's just something that has I mean again, someone might say I see the reality, but I want to make a different choice. I make a different conclusion here.

I understand and see that perspective. But there would not be this discussion if Trump wasn't president in two thousand and sixteen, between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty or twenty seventeen I guess when he got sworn in. But you know,

there wouldn't be this discussion. It would have been an academic pursuit and a lot of times, and this is where it gets it gets really it gets really hairy, so to speak, because you don't want a lot of the things that I think that a temptation that is out there for conservative thinking is that it becomes an intellectual pursuit where we want to understand and we can see the truth, and we begin to piece together these thoughts and ideas and we say, Okay, this makes sense, this makes sense, Okay,

this is the right position. But then when it comes to advancing that, it's like we don't always put as much thought into that. And that's really the most important part of this. And so it there's tough decisions to be made. At what point do you say it's better to have circumstance X than

circumstance Why? Right, It's better, for example, to have the overturning of Roe versus Wade than it is to have you know, Hillary Clinton had won the press NC in twenty sixteen, and she appointed Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court and all that, and then you have a court that's never going to They're going to build upon that atrocious Row decision for fifty years ago, right, They're going to continue to push that into the American culture, the

American way of life, and you're never going to win. You're never going to win that battle. So it's this is a discussion in a debate that needs to certainly certainly transpire and happen. But now that Trump's out there saying he's not in favor of a federal abortion band at say fifteen weeks or some number of weeks, that leads many people to say, well, here we go. This guy is not a principled, you know, conservative, he's

not a pro life Republican. He's definitely not an abolitionist. You know that. That's certainly one way of looking at it. But another way is to say, do we want to win academic battles or do we want to win battles in reality, because battles in reality are where real lives are actually saved in one. And I'm not saying he's right here. I'm just saying that there is a very real thing out there that says if the Democrats are chomping at the bit at this, they would love this to be with the twenty

twenty four campaigns about because that's all that they've got. And I would say I would love it to be about this, and we invest in persuading people to truth. But I just don't know. I don't know. I don't know that the American people are ready for I don't know. I'm not sure what to say about that. But the point is. The point is we've made tremendous strides on the issue of abortion, and it's good for the American

people. It's good for unborn human beings. The direction that we've taken, and I think we may not have gotten all that we want, but it's certainly better than it was prior to Trump taking office. So timeouts in order, my friends, sit tight back in just a minute. Welcome back to my friends. So I've been talking about abortion here today because again it's something

that has come up. I know that this, at least as it pertains to the Trump campaign, A lot of pro life conservatives are not real happy about this, and I understand, and I'm not either, But I also try to look at this as we have to advance, We have to advance in ways that we can if we look at it as all or nothing. I understand, I completely understand, and it's a really, really terrible situation.

But sometimes sometimes I mean, this culture, my friends, is so just corrupt and wicked that we may not be able many times, we may not be able to advance it to where it needs to be. And it doesn't mean that we should give up. But if the choice truly is where we were back when Roe v. Wade was actually the law of the land, or where we are today, this is headed in the right direction. I hate to say it that way, but we at least need to be

we at least need to recognize that. So not saying that we're you know that that Trump's decision here to say that these rights should stay with the Saints or where or what we should do. It's just, you know, there's a reality here at some point that we just have to be mindful of, I guess anyway. So that being said, I want to play this SoundBite again. I don't want to get in the habit of playing too many sound

bites from the view, but this is WHOOPI Goldberg. I just the stupidity of this stuff that's being espoused over there is too much to take in sometimes. But here she is, she's talking about abortion, she's trying to make her point, and she's just I mean, just some stupid stuff being said over here. She brings God into this the Ten Commandments as well. So I want to play this and comment on it in the time that we have

remaining. So here's what good Goldberg on the view. Talking about abortion, no one is obligated to have an abortion, so you never have to have one, and I hope no one ever has to have one. But if you find yourself in a position where you have to, I want to make sure, and I'm way past having kids. I want to make sure that's way past. I want to make sure that if you decide this is what you need to do, I'm going to get behind you because I don't know

your life. And if you say this is what you need, that's what I'm gonna do. Fifty weeks, seventy five thousand weeks, whatever happened, it's nobody's business. It's you, your doctor, and God, and that's who you have to be conversational to it. And it's not mentioned in the in the Big Ten. I'm just gonna say, in the Big Ten, it is not men. The Commandments. Yeah, you know, God was pretty clear. Here's the stuff that will make your life better on earth.

Here's the thing. Don't lie because you don't want people to lie to you don't mess with somebody's wife, because you're going to be mad if they're messing with you. You know, don't sense stuff not killed. Well, here's the thing. I think, thou shalt not kill we cannot be used as as the as the block because we allow wars all the time, crusade, we're about all these things. So there is some conversation to be having here.

So you can either you thou shalt not kill for everybody and everything and everything, or we have to talk about all the things that you and I need to do and I have to Yes, I need to give you Okay, So she's saying here, it's it's an all or nothing thing. You know. You either say thou shalt not kill for everything, or we have to start. Well, she's she's kind of right in a way. I mean, we all need to be looking at our lives and changing a lot

of things if we get down to it. But the truth is the truth is that perhaps the better translation of the ten commandments is now shall not murder? Oh now, wait a minute. Now we're getting into an example or into a situation where context really matters. What's the differentiating part of murder? Murder is the unjustifiable taking of a human life. So not all killing is the same right. We know this just from the way things are charged in

the criminal justice system. I mean, if you shoot someone and kill them in pure self defense, that's not murder. My friends, you were reacting to a circumstance that you did not create. The perpetrator created the circumstance in which it was decided by the perpetrator that someone was going to face extreme bodily harm or death, and you decided it wasn't going to be you. And

so this matters. Not only that. I remember in college when people would say these sorts of things, thou shall not kill, the Ten Commandments, Exitus chapter twenty if you literally turn to Exitus chapter twenty one, which in many Bibles, of course, it depends upon the layout. But in the Bible I was that had at the time, it was literally on the right page right, So on the left was Exitus twenty the Ten Commandments, thou shall not kill. On the right was a series of examples of when capital

punishment was justified. So clearly, clearly this is not the same thing. But when is it right to murder an innocent unborn child versus When is it right to use self defense? When is it right to engage in in a war? Those are different questions of my friends. What he wants you to believe that they're not. She's wrong as usual, But I gotta go have a great day, SDG.

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