Attention. You're listening to the Todd Huff radio show, America's home for conservative not Bitter talk radio. The advised the content of this program has been documented to prevent and even cure liberalism, and listening may cause you to lean to the right. Here's your Conservative but not Bitter host, Todd Hoff. Well, my friends, I you know, yesterday I had read that Trump was thinking of not attending any of the debates. But after reading his truth social
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that we make our point heard. But my friends, I think there's a couple of things to understand. Number One, I don't think. I do not think, and some of you are resistant to me on this, and that's okay. Resistant follow where the logic and rational thought lead you. But I think that this country is not as far apart as we may think that we are. I think we've got extremists, extremists that are running the Democrat
Party. I think we've got extremists in other ways, but I think we've got radical leftist extremists that hate this country, and they have the channels of power. Right. Rush I mentioned before referred to the four corners of deceit we talk about. We've added one too that, but basically, what were the four corners of deceit? I think it was academia, government. I don't think he had he didn't have entertainment, but he had the media.
Government. I'm drawing a blank on what the other two were at the moment, but we know that there are these groups that have power, right, powerful and influential folks, and so they use the media, they use the government, they use academia, they use whatever positions of power. Science was the other one. I knew it would come to me. They use science. Science was used as a blunt forced weapon against us, my friends during COVID for the advance with the name of science, for the advancement of an
agenda. Not saying every scientist, but there are certainly those who operate in that, in that realm where they are prepared to use whatever means they can against against this. We've got big tech. We've been through this a lot. You know these things. Sometimes we just need to hear them and recalibrate
and focus on it. But the people who have the most oftentimes nefarious agenda, the people who are the most corrupt, duplicitous, deceitful, oftentimes have the the bully pulpit, if you will, if I can apply it outside
just the presidency. But they've got a way of amplifying the voices they want to amplify and silencing or at least tuning down the volume of the voices they don't want the American people to be hearing because candidly, the voice is like Oliver Anthony, which we've been through a lot, and again it is about him, but it's not right and even with Trump, it is about him,
but it's not. It's really about a bigger issue than any person, right, It's it's about an issue, a movement that's greater than any one person. Now, when someone is being attacked by the beast, I think that we all, even if we don't agree with them, we have an obligation to stand in to fight for them and with them, which is what's happening with Trump. But this is this is I think the scenario, and
so our co conservative not bitter column. We have specifically a series called common Ground, which is going to start coming out tomorrow, so the emails will so I invite you to sign up for that on the homepage Toto show dot com. But that leads us right into some of the topics I want to tackle here. Today. We've got a panel at MSNBC, the Jokers at MSNBC. They were borderline giddy about the idea that Trump may be freaking out
having to go report to Fulton County jail. This is not the same, they point out on this silly little side show of an interview that they were doing over there at MSNBC. But they want you to know it's not the same as going to some sort of a federal location. This is a county jail, and they kind of I mean, you can sense some excitement from this. They were excited about this. I'll probably play that a part of that clips as the program unfolds. I also want to mention Jim Acosta out
there CNN. He's confused as to why Trump is polling so well despite Acosta's attempts to personally destroy him, and of course the attempts of all all those in the mainstream media, all of those in the corrupt fake news that Trump would say. We have Hunter Biden's attorneys that have threatened to put President Bribery on the stand. Apparently this is what was reported. This is I think an article, and then I want to say New York Post. It's in
today's stack of stuff on the website. Hunter Biden's attorneys threatened to put President Bribery on the stand. That's my headline, not theirs, if charges were ever brought against Hunter Biden. So we have we have. You look at the charges, the allegations, you look at Biden, who, by the way, Biden is operating what James Comber is calling a pattern of deception in the Biden crime family, and apparently he had aliases. Biden had alias's emails,
other email other names that he would be known by. I think these were other ema to read, but I think there were other email accounts as well. And so there were emails between the President of Ukraine and the and the alias of President Bribery. And the only other person copied on at least some of these emails was Hunter Biden. And so you ask yourself why. By the way, this reminds me remember when Mitt Romney was out there on Twitter as Pierre de Lecto, Pierre de Lecto, which is perfect. I
think I don't know what a Pierre de Lecto. That sounds like a great name from Mitt Romney, Pierre de Lecto. But when you look at the just the just the optics of this. First of all, why are I understand that Secret Service has nicknames for different people, right, and and that's that's their their code name. It's kind of like Maverick and so forth. When you're flying the fighter jet, I get that there's a reference to the individual that you know, they just want to talk in code words and you
know, provide a little bit of cover as to what they're referencing. But there's no reason, my friends, that federal officials are operating getting emails communications
to aliases. Why. I'll tell you why. I mean, the immediate question asked to why in my mind that this becomes an issue is because they want to do precisely what Hillary Clinton did when she was Secretary of State of this great nation under President Barack Obama, and she wanted to operate, remember, using her own private email servers so that she could have official government communications
that was never part of the national record. These folks, I think, and as as I go further and further into this, we've been doing this for eight years. I've been following politics since I was later in my teens, not to the degree that I do now, but it's always been of interest to me. It's always been something I've wanted to discuss and understand. Effact, the two things I want to discuss the most are the two things I was taught as a young fellow you're not supposed to talk about, which
is politics and religion. And I don't mean that in some I don't know, hateful sort of way I want to fight. I just think that these are the two most important things that we're ever going to deal with, which is how we're going to live on this side of heaven and how we're going to live eternally. And again, there's other big issues in life, but for me, are these are two of the most important things we're ever gonna
deal with. So I think we should have at it most. A lot of people don't feel that way, and that's all right, but I think there's a way to do it that makes them more comfortable anyway. But the idea here, the idea that it's acceptable suddenly in twenty twenty three to be emailing official government business and then either trying to keep it off the servers or trying to keep it under wraps as to who you are. What is this why? I understand that there are instances that it has to be Things have
to be kept secret, right, top secret, confidential. I get that you can't have military plans floating around out there on the internet. I get that that's that's one thing, But there are there are strict rules for this
sort of stuff. You can't have you can't be in conversations and have an email exchange, or you shouldn't be able to with foreign leaders using an alias copying your son who By the way, the Biden administration constantly reminds us that Hunter Biden's not part of the administration, but that you wonder why is he getting copied on emails? Now, granted this was back when Biden was president
Bribery was Vice President Bribery, but the concept is still the same. If he's not part of the government, If Hunter's not in the government, and he's not, why is he on these emails? And why is the person who is part of the government, who is part of so called official communications, why is it going why is it going to Alias's What is that all about? Just reminds me of the again, the Hillary Clinton drama, and the reason was because they don't want you to know. They don't want us
to know. And it reminds me of that song again. I keep going back to that that Oliver Anthony's song. They don't think you know, but I know that you do. They don't think that you know what they're up to. Now in some respects, we don't know the details, right, We don't know all of the corruption, all the shady deals, all of the exchanges of money for service, is an you know, favorable treatment by the US government and all that sort of stuff. We don't know that,
but we know that they're up to it. What else are they hiding? Why else are they taking these steps to prevent us from following the paper trail? Why? Why do that? It's because they're up to no good, my friends, and they don't think that, you know. And so when Jim Acosta, which I referenced earlier, has a guest on to talk about polling numbers Trump versus Biden, Jim Acosta is totally dumbfounded as to why Trump is polling so well against Biden. I think it was forty seven forty six
is what the poll that they had on the screen was. Biden was up one point over Trump, but before the indictments it was forty seven forty five or something like this, or if it closed a point, it went from two points to one point. And the left, the media, it just goes to show what they're what they're aft here. You know, you ask yourselves, Biden, President bribery has hidden emails? What what other hidden or off the record communication exists that talks about the plan here, the hopes here
for what they want to see happen to Trumps. What's out there about that. Are there communications. I'm not making the claim, but I'm raising the question. And I'm raising the question because these jokers and clowns have proven to us time and time and time again that they are unfit for your trust, that they're unfit for my trust, that they're unfit to be holding these positions of power. What are they out there doing? What are they communicating about?
What secret deals and plans and next steps are all part of this process. They don't think that you know, but I know that you do, says Oliver Anthony. I agree as well. The jig is up. The jig is up here. But the question remains, what are we going to do about it? Are we going to crawl into a metaphorical cave, cover our ears and say la la la la la and just want it to stop? Or are we going to do something about it? Are we going to push back? Are we going to see these things through? Are we going
to stand with Trump no matter where this goes next? And again that's not because of because he's some savior, that's just because he right now is the vehicle the lead force on fighting this absolute evil, wickedness. Banana Republic. We're dealing with right now. There's others that can follow, and I love to see that line growing, hopefully by the day, the week, the
month, the year. Vvak Ramaswamy, I'm a big fan of I know some of you are still on the fence about him, and I get it to a point, but I think I think he's addressed that stuff regarding the World Economic Forums acknowledgement of him and so forth. Anyway, there's other people that are out there that are getting into the mix, and that's what we're going to need. But this is Trump's battle, because again, there is no one. This is not Mike Pence's battle, no way, no how,
no shape, no form on any of that. It's not Chris Christie's battle. It's never gonna be Chris Christie's battle. Pains me to say it because of the fact that he's a Hoosier, but it's never gonna be Mike Pence's battle, and my estimation either so, but this battle has to be one. We have to see this through. We are just this is just the beginning, my friends, This is just the beginning of where this is
going. We're starting, We're starting with indictments, handcuffs, mug shots, fingerprints possibly who knows orange jumpsuits if they can get away with it again, not to be confused with Hillary's orange pant suit. But this is this is the starting point. This is gonna get ratcheted up in ways that we cannot possibly imagine. It's gonna make twenty sixteen look like it can walk in the park. It's gonna make twenty twenty look like the easy days. But as
the Navy Seals say, the only evy the easy day was yesterday. So sit tight, buckle up, time out as in order. My friends, you're listening here to conservative not better talk. I am your host, the one, the only Toddhoff back in just a minute. Welcome back, my friends. So I've got Jimma Costa here CNN News. This is the guy every time I think at jim Acasta. You know, when I think of two things, I think, do you remember when he tried to wrestle the
microphone away from the female? In turn? Do you remember that Trump? When Trump was president, he wouldn't give her the microphone back, but of course he didn't want to get too physical, so he was like, I don't know, shoulder blocking her or something. It was ridiculous. I'm picturing that. The other thing I'm picturing is when Trump set him up beautifully, beautifully in a big lee way, when Trump said, Jim, I'm sorry for calling you fake news, and Jim kind of walked right into it.
Well, I forget what he said, but kind of thank you, mister president. You're very fake news, is what Trump came back with. Anyway, So Jim Acosta, who has devoted himself to the destruction of President Trump, I mean, he's won a many by the way, this is this is what they live for. This is what they live for. They are looking for, you know, they're they're looking, I think, for the
notoriety. The they're looking for the next Watergate. But it has to be the Watergate that they approve of. It has to be one that a Watergate esque type of scandal that is in line with their political ideology. Right, They're not gonna If that were the case, they'd be going after Biden, President bribery, asking tough questions. By the way, I saw vvek Ramaswami. I don't know when this interview took place. It might have been a couple of weeks ago for all I know, but he was on with Dana
Bash and I just did a phenomenal job. The guy does a phenomenal job. He runs his campaign while also diametrically opposing what's happening to Trump. Anyway, the CNN, of course, is completely committed to the idea that President Trump's going to go to the clink for life if they could get him in the chair or lethal injection. I think CNN might actually really be all about
that. But anyway, so you got a costa. He's interviewing a podcaster who's I forget the name of the guy's podcaster, but I think the podcast talks about polling and that sort of thing. And so they're talking about President
Trump and his poll numbers, so to the left. To the left if you get indicted multiple times and multiple states, just ever so coincidentally, two and a half years after you know, the crimes were alleged to have been committed, they all just fall right into place two and a half years later on the button just happens to be on the eve happens to be just totally coincidental, on the eve of the kickoff of the campaign, which again starts
tomorrow. Really in a way with the debates but again Trump, Trump's over here running his own thing. He says, he's not, as I interpreted, not going to be in any of these debates, which is a smack in the face to the Republican Party. These other candidates. I mean, it's it's just Republican Party. It is just they can't They shouldn't have let that has another discussion. But they shouldn't have let that happen. You talk
about it. But he's getting cheered on for this. By the way, it actually plays right into the hand of on the outsider, because now he can say, all these other jokers are up here being part of this system. You know, they're up here part of the problem. If yet problems with Republicans, we've got problems with Democrats here. I am just basically running
on my own I am the nominee. Everybody knows it. The Republican Party is over here trying to prevent people like me from opposing a candidate who might win the nomination. I can't I can't even say I wouldn't support them. They're forcing me to support their nominees. I'm not going to play that game. And it just it falls right in line with what so many Americans are longing for, as it pertains to seeing the system changed in different ways of
doing it. Anyway, But Jimmy Coss is on here with this podcaster. They assume, I think they assume from the sounds of this conversation that Trump and his polling would be Trump would be done after all these indictments. But it turns out that's not the case at on. In fact, he's even closed the gap on president president. Here's a six change. Listen to this. This is Quinnipiac University. It was a two point race in February. Look where it is now. It's a one point race. That's well within
the margin of vera. But take away one thing from this, and one thing only. If you take away only one thing, and that is I think there are a lot of Democrats who simply can't believe that Donald Trump can be elected president again. The polling indicates that Trump is in fact in a stronger position at this point than he was during the entire twenty twenty campaign.
According to the national polls. If we had state level polling, I wouldn't even be surprised if Trump where I had in the swing states that are most important. Jim Right, and when the race is Zach closer comes down to the electoral college, and who knows what happens with that. We don't even have those kinds of numbers just yet. But from a national standpoint, you're absolutely right. It is remarkable where Trump stands right now when it comes to
the rest of this field and with general election voters. Harry Enson, as always, thank you very much. There you go. It's remarkable. They're they're dumbfounded. They still either don't want to I don't know, do they do they buy their own lies? Do they just want to play the part. I don't know all the ins and outs of this, but I do know this. I do know this that they did not want this. They I don't know if they anticipated it. I think they're they're not stupid people,
right, I mean, there are a lot of things. They're duplicitous, they're manipulative, they're deceitful, they hate America in many cases. But they're not stupid, right. That's they're not stupid. They're strategic, they're cunning. Those those are the words I would use, deceitful and cunning in particular. So they're but they're not stupid. So did they really not expect
this. Is it all part of the act to try to again put the pressure the onus back on Republican or Trump supporters to say, why on earth would you? I'm so confused, Why would you support someone who's been indicted? Right, And you've all heard the old adage that an attorney, if he gets before a grand jury, it can get a ham sandwich indicted. That's an old adage. And but when I supposed to even mention that, it's supposed to be proof that he's guilty and all this sort of stuff.
But anyway, bottom line is they're confused, or at least pretending to be confused, as to why Trump is out here still kicking butt and taking names He's gonna avoid at least this first debate, and it sounds like all of them he's not. He doesn't need them, he doesn't need them, and I think it's only going to fuel fuel the attraction, increase the magnetism. Maybe I should say of the attraction to the Trump campaign, I just he's
different. Remember when he stood up on that stage and it was sixteen back in twenty sixteen, fifteen and sixteen, with sixteen politicians and the outsider and that resonates with a lot of people because people have had enough my friends, timeouts in order. You're listening to conservative not better talk, great choice today, my friends back here in just a minute. Welcome back, my friends. I referenced this MSNBC panel. That's I think a little bit excited.
I think they're trying to contain their excitement about this idea that Trump is going to be going to what people refer to as a quote hell hole, the Fulton County jail, which, by the way, look, I know, I know some of you aren't going to see it this way, and I do see it this way. I look, prison jail should not be a country club. It shouldn't be a place where you can just kick back and have it easy. I mean, that's that's not the idea, but the
idea that we want to create hell holes. If that's the case, especially hell holes as they talk about here, that can be used to potentially pressure people and to maybe testament. I don't know. I mean, if if you thought, if you're in this place where you feel like you're at risk, it's it's dangerous again, not just not just hey, this is me
serving my time. I don't know, I just that's the founders didn't want that, right, I mean, they again, there's a difference from having it be a country club and nice and easy and all that, versus having it be a place that's dirty and where you're worried about getting roughed up by the inmates and all that. And of course we've all seen the whatever documentaries and all that stuff anyway, but they seem excited about this is the point here. So here it is. I'm gonna let her. This is MSNBC
the host setting up this this segment. She's got one of the attorneys who was the prosecutor at Watergate back in the seventies, and so I just want you to listen to this and listen to how the prosecutor, the former prosecutor now a commentator here at MSNBC, describes what some of the Watergate defendants did whenever they were put in the DC jail. They freaked out. She says, it's almost like they're hoping with bated breath, this is what happens to
Trump. But here it is. Can't ignore the biggest threat to American democracy, Donald Trump's hold. Despite facing ninety one felony charges across four jurisdictions joining us now MSNBC contributor and former Watergate prosecutor Jill Winbanks. She's a co host of the hashtag Sisters in Law podcasts and MSNBC political analysts in Washington Post opinion columnist Jennifer Reuben, Jill Trump, the eighteen other co defendants they must surrender
in Fulton County by Friday. How is this process in Georgia going to be different from what we've seen in federal court. It's going to be very different because they have said that they are going to do mugshots and fingerprints, and he will be turning himself in at the Fulton County jail, not in a federal building, not in a clean, nice environment. It is, from what we hear from the press, a really dirty, dangerous, scary place.
So it's going to be a very different picture. And I think the picture of him there, I think his experience of being in a real jail. I can tell you that some of the Watergate defendants when they were put in the DC jail really freaked out and we had to move them to a army base where they could be housed without being in fear at all times. So that they could cooperate and testify, Jennifer, they could cooperate and testify.
Non think that these prosecutors don't don't do these things right. Throw them in jail and that'll change how they view about things. I'm if it's part of the process. It's part of the process. But we know that this is not part of the process because this is Banana Republic kind of stuff. This is the imprisonment or the arrest at least the attempt at imprisonment of the opposition leader to the current party in power in the White House and in the
Senate anyway, So they're a little bit now. She didn't you know she's she's an attorney, she's former attorney. I think she's a commentator now maybe she still practices. I don't know what she does specifically day in and day out. But I do know that they love this. They love this, and they think that it helps their cause. But as the polling that we referenced, or I played the SoundBite from last segment, it's not hitting Mark that they want it to hit. So let's get him fingerprinted, Let's get
his mug shot. Can we get him in an orange jumpsuit? Can we get him roughed up in the yard. I mean, man, they might like that. I don't know. I put nothing past these jokers and clowns. But a timeout is in order. And again, to me, the likelihood that Trump does this before the Republican debate is high. I feel like it's it's the time to do it. He has to do it by Friday.
Why not do it prior to that? And less of course it interferes with you know, hunter By, I ascuse me his interview with with Tucker Carlson or something like that. But anyway, timeouts in order, out of time to segment my friends, sit tight back here in just a minute. Welcome back, my friends. I've shared on here before, share a whole line. But we got three three kiddos here the Huff household. Fourteen year old son, soon to be, twelve year old daughter and a nine year
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talk about James Comer. He was on with Maria Bartromo. This was I think it was on over the weekend. It could have been, could have been even Monday. But he's giving updates on what's happening with the Biden crime family. He tweeted out would have been on Monday midday on Monday VP. I referenced this earlier VP Joe Biden, he writes, emailed Hunter under the alias's Robin Robin Ware, Robert L. Peters and j RB Ware to keep
his son informed on his communications with Ukraine. Now I want to differentiate. I want to clarify if this was so in some way, this is splitting hairs now I don't know if Biden was doing this on personal emails or how this how this all broke down. It's a little bit confusing, but the
bottom line is what the gist of what's happening here is is terrible. You got the president, the vice president at the time, Vice President Joe Bribery, who was emailing in at least one case, the president of Ukraine and then copying his son Hunter Biden on the correspondence as to what was being said
and done. I mean, this is unb believable. And yet you will have people in the media who tell you, who tell me, who go up to the podium, who if they're politicians, media members, sit in front of the camera, or they tweet or write in their stupid misleading stories
that there's no evidence, there's no evidence that Joe Biden. Show me the evidence that Joe Biden did this, this or this, And then you show them or tell them the evidence and they're like, wow, you know, that's not really the correct way of you know, there's a reason for this, or that's not been proven or whatever. We don't know. I'm waiting for one of them to say, we don't know. Really, when you get down to it. Who these people are that have these these these aliases?
Maybe real people, right, I mean, this is the kind of nonsense that we're subjected to. But these why use aliases? That's the first question. I mean, do you go around using aliases? Maybe some of you do on social media? I don't know. But if you use an a list, it's for a reason. And let me just take a wild swing here. An alias is usually designed to be used to conceal the true
identity of the person. Isn't that the very definition? So then the question would be why why would the vice president of the United States need to conceal his identity? What? And this the friends we have. One of the things we've lost in the history of America is the concept that these individuals are These are public jobs. There's no such thing as private communications in your official role. Now that could be classified information if you're talking about things that are
not the general public can't know about. But the information they can't quote know about has to be There's there's a certain criteria as to what that is. And the criteria is not, Hey, I'm selling access to this guy, don't let the voters know I'm doing it. So use my alias here, Robert L. Peters, Robert L. Peters, JRB Ware, I mean JRB Joseph Robinette Biden. That's not even that's not even a good alias. Of course, I wouldn't expect anything else from from Biden. I hope.
I tell you what, if they keep digging and they find they find an alias Cornpop, I'm gonna love this. This would be the single greatest alias and nickname in the history of alias's and nicknames. That's one that I could actually probably be in favor of Cornpop Biden. Anyway, there's no evidence, they tell you. No, There's a mountain of evidence, my friends.
Now, the evidence might have explanations. The defense can certainly if it gets to that point point, but the defenders of Biden and Hunter can certainly try to do that. But to say there's no evidence is patently absurd, in a complete lie. And I gotta take a break. Sit tight, my friends, back in just a minute. Welcome back, my friends. Not
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