Guest Host: Krish Dhanam | Aug 9, 2024 | Hour 2

with was let's talk elections. Let's talk elections. Now. One of the things I see on a regular basis when I look at Twitter or x what it's called now, I'm on very few social media platforms business wise. The only social media platform I care to use or use is LinkedIn. I got off Facebook and all of those, and I was not on Twitter for the longest time

till Musk bought it. And call me a guy who just likes the way that guy vibes or you know, they may be parts of his life that I may disagree with and parts of his life that are not ASLEI, but you know, there's a lot of similarity in some of his struggle and his understanding eventually of where we are. There are a lot of stuff on X I don't think should be there, just because the average person looking

at that without any filter. You know, any video can be posted, and some of the videos that people post, I know why they do it. They do it to get their clicks and they get their likes. But I just wish we'd go back to being a nation of what one of my colleagues used to say to me at one time, will this really matter? And a lot of stuff that is posted I think is primarily designed to get a rise out of somebody. But there's a lot of good stuff out there and a lot of

stuff that makes you pause. So when I look at the elections of four years ago and I look at some of the statements that are being made now, of course they are facts checkers who check them and their community notes that come alongside it. So I take everything with a grain of salt. I'm not going to believe everything that is presented saying Okay, this person did this and that was illegitimate and this was not looked at. But when I look at the popular cry of what

is allowed to be presented in the mainstream media. We have time talked about that ad nauseum, and I think Todd addresses that in as calm and sincere, a manner that actually edifies the title of his show, Conservative not bitter. I know we are supposed to talk about contemporary issues, and I am what you would call a Reagan Conservative, and maybe I don't have an absumption of understanding the Great Ronald Reagan's policies, but I'm known as a guy

who during my own lectures and all that. In the evangelical world, I'm known as a laughing evangelist, and I'm known as someone who can break the monotony with humor. And to that end, I credit the Great Ronald Reagan, who had that ability before he went and did something serious. He says, have I ever told you this story? And people almost always know that there's something good that's coming along. Now.

Having said that, I want to take us to that issue of where do we lower our temperature of our tonality and do we even want to use the word compromise when you talk elections of old The Speaker of the House many moons ago was Tip O'Neil and Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neil disagreed on just about everything, but they were comfortable enough to break bread after it, which means you did not you disliked the person's policy, but you did not personally dislike that person as a matter

of existence. Whereas that's where we are now. We are in a bitriolic stage right now. Where And I don't know if it's the conservative side so much, and it may be equally parts conservative, but most conservatives who have a religious bent to them seem to understand the fact that even though I disagree with the person, and I don't want to just win the argument as an evangelist,

I want to win the soul. So my compromise is not so much a compromise of my own convictions as much as it is trying to compromise my rhetoric to the degree that I can stay in the same argument, look in the same direction, and eventually have a chance

to win the soul. Now, this goes back to that illustration that many of you have heard before, and it's about the little kid who was being tormented by the big bully, and the big bully, you know, looks at him, and it can pulverize him into smithereens and a bit, and the little kid draws a line in the sand and says, I challenge you to cross this line. And that big bully triumphantly steps over the line, at which point the little kid says, good, now we're on the

same side. So what is the line of your conviction, What is the line of your non compromise? So to speak? That when you're looking at city hall, when you're looking at a government, if you're in a state that is historically blue, you're looking at some of these laws that make no sense. You're looking at some of the things that we have gone through as a people. I mean, just post COVID, forget the conspiracy theories, and forget the talk about pharma companies and whether the vaccine was needed

or not. Just look at how stupid some of the regulations were. Because you look in hindsight, it makes no sense that you can wash your hands at nauseum and not stand next to someone for six feet and then you get on a plate and you cramp next to them eighteen into the parts, pewing into each other's face. A lot of these things don't make sense. So where

is your compromise. Where is that part where you're going to say, I'm going to add the love of the Great Commandment and make sure that it shows alongside my learning and my leverage of the Great Commission. Folks, I'm going to take you through a story, and the story is of a great Indian gentleman by the name of Mahtma Gandhi. If you've heard this before, bear along because this will help you. When Mahatma Gandhi was asked the

question by east Stanley Jones, a Christian. At that time, Mahtma Gandhi was the foremost Hindu in India, what does Christianity have to do to be considered a mainline worldview and not considered a white man's import or something attributed to colonialism, which is what it was in that part of the world. So when you look at the broader Africa, they say the white man came with religion, took our diamonds and our resources, and then left us our poverty

and left us their God. Whichever way they attributed to that's how it all began. The whole world was colonized at one time, and you had large empires that go and most of the Western world was a Christi's world that went till we had the Crusades and the advent of Islam and all of the other good stuff. And we can talk about that, you know, first two Crusades, next, you know, whichever way you want to slice that. That

may be a discussion for a different day. But even there we have believed the rhetoric instead of actually going and researching for yourself. So where is this compromise? When I look around the world and I see people with different worldviews, the worldview of east Stanley Jones a Methodist missionary who had gone to India with the single purpose of sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ. He is now confronting the greatest Hindu at that time, Matt mc gandhi.

Stanley Jones left came to India nineteen seventeen. Matt mc gandhi returned to India nineteen sixteen after having spent some time. He was a barrister from England, went and was practicing in South Africa. Saw the deep rooted issues of colonization there and the flight of the of the Indian and decided to come back to India to liberate a nation. Now Stanley Jones and Mattmagandhi became good friends all the way. Mart mcgandhi's passing at the rate of an assassination's bullet

in nineteen forty eight on the thirtieth of January. Now, I'm just a history a buff so I'm throwing stuff at you. It's just because that's the way I speak a mile a minute with a lot of data. But one of the questions Stanley Jones asked mart mc gandhi in nineteen twenty five was what does Christianity have to do to be considered a mainline worldview and not considered

a white man's import or a colonized offering. And the results of what Gandhi said were actually published in a book called Christ of the Indian Road and international bestseller in nineteen twenty five. Now we need to be well read if you want to compromise. In order to compromise, you have to know what the other side thinks, and you have to know more about what the other side believes. Not just spouting out what you believe a conservative cause

is good. But if everything is Reagan, and everything is Trump, and everything is this, and everything anti is against Biden and Harris, then you look like a person who is just one sided. But if you're going to ask me questions, I probably know in enough about the other side before I begin that compromise. Well, here's what Gandhi said to Stanley Jones. It will blow your mind. Here are the four things. The first thing he said, live like him.

See Amy Carmichael once said, we all believe to be strangers and pilgrims who are stuck in a land we want to call our own, and then settle as if we intended to stay as long as we could. But and then her byline is really clever. She said, I don't think Apostolic miracles have died. Apostolic living surely has. You know, you can have the Christian identity. You can

say that this is anti Christian. Jesus would have never agreed to this, and homosexuality is a sin, and identity is not talked about, and man and woman in Genesis, and all of that is Jesus' words, All of that is Christian words, all of that is Bible words. But a person who doesn't believe that worldview, who has never subscribed to the worldview, who never cracked open that worldview, doesn't care Apostolic living requires the physic example of sharing

that which you apostolically bring. I call myself an apostolic preacher in the sense I make my tents my day and sell them and go preach by night. I've never given up my marketplace. Well that's what the fishermen did. So some part of our identity should be showing these people that I want to compromise with you. But my compromise is not going to compromise on my Christian virtue

and my Christian belief. It's going to compromise on my human virtue and my human belief that I need to love you as much as I'm going to try to teach you. So Gandhi's first words were live like him. Second he said love like him. It was central to his nature, quite powerful. But the third and the fourth were one that really changed my thought process because up until then I was this gung ho, swashbuckling evangelist who had been saved in the marketplace by the great Zigziglar.

I confess my sins at a church in Flower Mount, Texas, and I was going to go back to India because I'd learned diction and conversation and could now raise the octaves of my voice and sound like an evangelist, where you know, instead of just saying God that a preacher would there, I would say God and try to get some amplification. There. I thought I was all that in a bag of chips till I heard what Gandhi had said in his third and fourth statement to the great evangelist.

First he said, live like him. Second he said love like him. Third he said, understand what others believe. And fourth he said, don't water down what you believe. It's easy not to water down what you believe if you've never read what others believe. And most people are afraid to crack open a book of holy writ of somebody else's worldview because they're afraid it will change their own.

Frank Turk, who has his own podcast and was the co author of the book I Don't have enough Faith to be an atheist with Norm Geisler, basically puts it this way. He says that we are afraid that our faith will be knocked out of us if we read someone else's worldview. And if that's your fear, I don't think the faith was ever knocked into you. You may be a generational Christian, but have not decided for yourself whether you believe that the Bible is the true, in errant,

infallible word of God. Folks, trust me. I have read all worldviews. I've read the teachings of Gotama Buddha, I've read the teachings of the Ghita, and that Krishna is one of their deities. I've read the teachings of Islam and Prophet Muhammad's dictation. I've come to this conclusion. In any worldview, you take out their pivotal figure, their worldview still remains. In Buddhism, you take out Buddha, you still have Nirvana. In Hinduism, you take out one of the gods,

you've got other gods. In Islam, you take out the prophet Muhammad, Allah still reigns. Christianity is the only one. When you remove Jesus Christ, the whole worldview collapses. So it's very important that if we're going to compromise, and people are going to challenge you saying, how can you vote for someone if you're a Christian, you need to ask what being a Christian means. We are the most

flawed people. Our heroes are the most flawed people. The shepherd King, that sweet singer of Israel who became the King David was flawed on that balcony of boredom, on that veranda of voyeurism. Yet he wrote some of the psalms saying, I'm constantly aware of your unfailing love. And yet to him, God said, this is a man after my own heart. He was a man after God's own heart,

the creator of the universe. Think about it, if you remember that beautiful story, how amazing it was in its own presentation, when Saul has fallen out of favor and Samuel has asked to go to the House of Jesse. And I don't want to get theological here, but as a story, it matters because King David, David, the stower

of David. That is what Israel's lineage is. If you're a Christian who supports Israel, you need to ask yourself, am I just going to compromise my convictions or talk about minutia about the geographical land, or am I going to actually delve through the books of history and say to myself, Hey, recently, an obelisk was discovered in Egypt that is three thousand years old, and on it the

word Israel is mentioned. You know this all comes with understanding. Well, when Saul is out of favor and Samuel is asked to go to the House of Jesse, who do they line up? The guys that look good, the tall, the brave, the mighty, the people who look like a king, who look like a president. And that's what we are seeing

out there, carefully trotted out, carefully Coyford, carefully manicured. Even those people on late night TV and people on evening news, all of them just look like a million bucks and are paid a million bucks. But that's not the look of the person you would run across in the grocery store or in a Walmart, which I just visited before I started recording this. Who was the one who was chosen, the guy who was not even invited to the banquet.

When he came there, he would have probably come smelling as a shepherd as likely to have smelt who had been out with the sheep in those clothes. And when he came, what did the proper say. We're not going to sit down, We're not even going to eat till he comes. Folks, if you truly believe that America is a God or day nation, I want to take you back to when the Republic was being framed and they were discussing what would work as a seal of this nation.

One of the choices made by two of the men who were the least religious in Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. Benjamin Franklin said, I think the seal should be the parting of the Red Sea and Moses standing on a rock and the people coming out of slavery. Jefferson said, I think the seal needs to describe the lost children of Israel, and then Jefferson basically said, I think I

like Franklin's version better. Neither of them were accepted, and we went with a different seal, But that was the imagery that two of the people who were the least religious thought that this nation should have. When you make your compromise, ask yourself, what part of the Bible are you going to not negotiate on and what part of the Bible are you going to try to allow to

live out Now. Granted, there may be people listening who do not even subscribe to what I'm talking about, but I'm saying, as a conservative, I have friends who come from all other faiths. I am invited to speak in places that worship differently and worship different deities. But when they invite me, they say that you come to us because you know more about us than we know about ourselves.

So even when we know you're a Christian, we know that you're actually going to talk about God in the way God has impacted you and maybe allow us to get in touch with some reality. They may not know what my purpose is there, and they may not even they may doubt my motives. But I have never been denied an audience because I subscribed to a certain worldview. See,

Compromise means being invited in spite of everything. Compromise means that even though you're an emperor on that balcony of boredom, a king who is supposed to be in the front lines, who succumbs to that boyeurism of the moment, and then you decide you're going to commit murder after that to amplify your indiscretion and your adultery, the God of Heaven says, that's a man after my own heart. Now I'm not equating any current day politician with David, That's not what

I'm doing. But what I'm saying is that if you are a follower of the Christian worldview and people attack you saying how can you and they try to ask you to redefine the way you love people because of behavior, you need to be pliable enough to say, let me go through the annals of Holy writ and explain why I am the way I am, and that conviction of your own response, that desire of your own heart, will allow you to have a different kind of commitment. Now,

what is commitment? There's an old saying, which is again mister Zigler, I quote him a lot. Mister Zigler used to say, most people are as committed as a Kamakazi pilot on his thirty ninth mission. Now, I know that Todd is younger than me, and some of this audience is probably going to be way younger than me, So maybe I need to explain for some of you what a Kamakazi pilot is. But in World War Two, primarily Japan's aerial force, of course we know what happened at

Pearl Harbor. If you don't, it was in all the papers. If you don't know what a paper is, a paper is a document that had printing on it. Go to the library. A library is a building obvious, kidding, But the Japanese pilots of old that believed in God and believed in the country above everything else, and sacrificing for your country was the greatest honor used to be called Kamakazi pilots, which means their mission was a mission that would be one and done, there was no coming back.

One comedian put it, then, why did kamakazi pilots wear helmets? Well, that's why comedians do. And we kind of look at stuff and say, okay, that makes no sense. But some people are as committed as a Kamakazi pilot on his thirty ninth mission. I'll give it something, you know. If it doesn't go my way, I'll take my toys and go home. But I'm not going to stay in the fight.

When I'm talking about commitment, I'm talking about having the guts to stand and say I believe that if you do the time you're going to do If you do the crime, you're going to do the time. But then have the love to also volunteer in a prison and see those that are doing the time because you believe that there is a consequence to action. See, this is what means but by the least of these, this is what I'm talking about. So hopefully today I've kind of

put the whole circle in play. I've taken you on a long journey. We started with one thing. But if you look at all the words I use alliteratively, we began with elections. We said, they have consequences. I said, let's have a conversation about who we are in this process. Let's look at some of the choices that were made for us, choices that we make for others. Let's look at whether those choices have altered. Are concerns for things that are happening. I mean, I'm invited to some of

these theme parks because corporate conventions happen there. But I've reached a point in my life where I'm very, very cautious now to not be seen in places that blatantly and vocally blaspheme, the God that I worship. So I'm just, and as a result, I have lost some business. I'll be honest with you, but I can tell you without any fear of error, I've not lost any sleep. So

what are your concerns? Do your concerns but up against the convictions that you hold, Dear are you making compromise and are you making compromise on truth convictions or are you making compromise on things that are a little more esoteric, a little more superficial that it allows you to stay in the game. And then as a result of that,

how is that shaping your commitments going forward? Because when we come back and we begin to wind up today's work in the two segments we have left in the hour two, I want to anchor on some of these things that are really really serious business. Like I said, you know, hopefully we'll be able to do a guarded country dialogue in some of the neighborhoods. But I'm truly believed. Now I've lived here forty years, almost forty years, thirty nine,

getting close to thirty nine. We have a home in India. We may have a home in another place that maybe just hedging my beds, But man, this country was everything. When I chose to come here, I gave up everything. I landed in New York and I kissed the floor. I was processed for two hours, and I was just delirious that something like that could happen to an immigrant like me. I truly en joyously celebrated that moment when

I landed in New York City I'll never forget. Many years later, I was speaking for a major organization and doing a tour all over New York, ending up in Manhattan, where I got to stay in a beautiful hotel, the Waldorf, someplace I could not have afforded on my own. This organization put me up there for the work I had

done for them. It was coincident with our anniversary. My bride and I looked at each other and we thought to ourselves, you know, how did we ever get to this point where we came from the wrong side of the tracks with very little money to our name, and here we are. I'll tell you one of the sweetest stories of what that commitment does. When we come back and we begin to close out day one of our time together. Stay tuned, hang in there. This is christ

dunham More after the break all right. Now. I don't know how he does this day in and day out. Just doing the recording is wound me up. But I do have my notes in front of me, and hopefully I'm making sense to you. And I do apologize if I get off on a tangent, but I'm passionate about this. I'm passionate about this. Hopefully we can have a chance to meet each other at some listener meet and greet events or something like that. I have great joy when I do that in Texas for some of the people

I help out here on their podcast. It's always good to meet the people who make these shows possible and the opportunity to actually engage. This is more of a diet tribe because it's a recording, but it's being played because of somebody who desperately needs that rest. Because he comes behind this microphone day in, day out, and I remember when he began this show and the desire he

had to see it grow. And it's such a joy to have seen it grow, and the new markets to have come on and the segments sizes changing and the sponsors increasing. I'm just so grateful that he's having the success he has, and I'm also humbled that Todd still considers me worthy enough to occasionally come and sit behind his microphone and engage with his audience. So I am

a history buff. I'm an international traveler. I clalk about one hundred and twenty events a year, spend one hundred and twenty eight nights a year, in a hotel room, crisscross the globe, have long many million miles, so most of what I talk about almost seems like history and a travelogue. It's like putting mister Rogers in a plane and asking him to talk about discipline in other countries. I guess, well, if you saw me and this was on TV, you'd probably think I kind of as goofy

as him. You know, old fashioned sweaters and what I do wear a hat that maybe more information than you need. But going back to that commitment, I remember my bride and I were standing in the Waldorf story line to check in and they said, okay, there's a delay, we'll call your number. They took our number. So in those days, one of the prominent I think it was Carnegie Deli or something like that. One of the delis was very

famous and it's closed now. And so someone said, if you're in New York, you have to go and eat the pastrami on RDE there. So these are some of my things. I'm a foodie. So we went there and we took a Broadway show in and New York was fun the second time around when I landed with my bride. The first time not so had nine bucks to my name. She found out she had lost her job. And now suddenly you find yourself in the waldorfha story, thinking to yourself,

good Lord, what did we ever do to deserve this. So, as we're just sitting there holding our hands looking at it, a lady walks up to us and said, excuse me, are you guys checking in? He said, yeah, he said, what brings you to New York? He says, oh, it's our anniversary. This weekend, we came to do some work for a company. All the work is finished, and this is their gift to us before we head back to Texas.

And she says, you know, there's something about the spirit, the way you hold hands, the way you look at each other. And she just casually said I can tell without even asking that you are both believers and you're Christians. And I thought to myself, that's good. You know, whether she believed or not, it's not the issue or whether we were believers or not. It was a nice intro for her to say, there's something different about your spirit.

There's a peace of mind about your countenance. And we walked over she says, come over here, and took us to the Platinum lounge, and I said, ma'am, we're just regular people. Someone has paid for this, and so I just have to check in. I'm no platinum member here. You I don't want to cut line, She says, No, I'm just going to do a favor for you on

your anniversary. I'm going to upgrade you to a suite that's a corner suite that overlooks some of the nicer streets in New York, and you'll have a beautiful view of the skyline. And then I thought myself, you know that will the picture I had in my room in India, the skyline of New York, the Lady Liberty, the green lady with her torch, and the harbor welcoming countless immigrants like me, looking at the city that built. When you look at the Empire State Building and it goes up

and it becomes a monumental. Looking at the World Trade centers that went up, and then because they were targeted, that was a symbol. If we destroyed the symbol, we destroyed the heart of a nation. We grind the wheels of capitalism. Everything that is beautiful about New York is what the rest of the world that would despise America would hate about New York, and so it was funny

to be in that situation. And as an immigrant who came here and after nine to eleven, I went through a lot of profiling and all that, and still to have that experience and to have that joy was just something unique to experience and to express. But I remember we were looking at my bride and saying to her, how can we ever repay this nation for what they gave us? She said, I think we are already getting because we have never wavered in our love for her.

When we didn't have anything, she welcomed us. When we had a little we thanked her. When we had a little more, we served her. When we had a little more, we went into our prisons and took care of the people who were lost. When we had a little more, you started going into juvenile halls. When we had a little more, we started volunteering a battered women's shelters. And I thought to myself, with every grain and every gain we've had in this nation, we deliberately were allowed to

do something by helping other people. This is what the founding of America was. When we do the show on Monday, and I take you through the history lessons. George Washington was a wealthy man. George Washington's pastime was being a stride a horse and chasing foxes on an estate that was huge. When the country's call came to him, he literally gave up something that he didn't need to. George Washington did not need to be a loyalist. He was

independently wealthy as a result of it. Those who were loyalists to Britain were people who were still receiving something from the king, and as a result, when they had to make a choice between God and country, they chose

the King's side, and they were called loyalists. But there's something fundamentally pure about these founding fathers who shaped this nation, because almost all of them three generations earlier, had probably come from across the pond, and somehow they fell in love with this new unique experience that we called these here United States of America. So when we look at our country and we look at the commitments, let's go back to where we began in our number one, Let's

go back to talking elections. Let's go back to asking ourselves. You know, in twenty twenty six, we will have come to the two hundred and fiftieth year, the two hundred and fiftieth mark of the signing of the Declaration of Independence that July fourth, seventeen seventy six. Ironically, only I think two people or maybe one person signed it on that July fourth. Majority signed it on August second, and a few didn't get to do it till much later. But July fourth is the day that we say is

the day the declaration was signed. So seventeen seventy six goes, eighteen seventy six goes, nineteen seventy six goes, and now twenty twenty six comes two hundred and fifty years well. Thomas Jefferson was asked about the word democracy. He said, a good democracy will last two hundred years before it starts feeding on itself. That's why I always use the word republic. India is a republic. When I go to India and people say, you know, India is the world's

largest democracy, I said, no, India is a republic. They said, how do you say it? I said, India has a republic day January twenty, we don't have a democracy day. You have an independence day. August fifteen. That's the day you got independence from Britain. We have Independence Day in the United States is July fourth. We don't have a republic Day here, But the United States is a constitutional republic.

The founders were brilliant in the framing of it. In a republic, the elected people go to protect your sacred honor. Their oath to their constituents, whether they're a congressman or a senator, a state rep or a state senator, whatever, it is their oath when they take the office, to protect all the citizenry of this nation and their constituents from all threats foreign and domestic. Is an oath to the Constitution, not for their own self preservation or their

re election. Their oath to the Constitution is defined in the Declaration of Independence. He says, for these purposes, government's obmittencestituted among men to protect what the rights of the governed. Please read that document, ladies and gentlemen. It's the rights of the governed. Who are the governed. You and I are the governed. It's not the rights of the governing.

So when they make arbitrary laws and try to say that you can do this, you can do this, or every three letter agency begins to have regulations of where you can dig a trench and where you can erectify. Only Congress can make the laws. At least that's to the best of my understanding, what this Lemon law was

all about, or the Chevron case was all about. That they just passed when they said that they're going to go back and say, independent organizations and independent institutions around the country do not have the arbitrary effort to suddenly become kingmakers. But that's the tyranny that seems to be. This is what Mark Levin himself talks about quite a bit.

We seem to have gone away from the basics that in our conversation when we talk to our elected officials and we ask them, we ask them all these big questions. What are you going to do about this? What are you going to do with trade with China? What are you going to do about this? First question we need to ask them, do you believe that the rights remain

with the governed? Do you believe that you are being elected because I am going to give you my sacred honor that when you go there and represent my constituency and me as your constituent. Every day, when you wake up and look in the mirror, your conscience will say that I have on my back the honesty, the integrity, the lives and the livelihoods of people whose rights are governed, and they are the ones. The rights always exist with the people who are governed, and no rights exist with

the people who are governing. That's just so basic. Now, I'm pretty sure that a lawyer can take care through it and say, I think this is what it means, and this is what it means. But when I look at the Decoration of Independence and I realize that the rights are inalienable, they come from God, I understand that. We'll come back after the next segment. All right, dear friends,

a deep breath and an apology. I think I got long winded and I had to cut you off because that was a heartbreak there, and hopefully if you miss something, all we basically ended was the words of the declaration

saying the rights are with the governed. This is our last segment on day one, hour two, So as we talk about elections, I want to take a deep breath and probably take you through a little more of a tranquil moment, as I probably got a little agitated there and I thought to myself, man, I do sound like some of these other talk show hosts flopping at the mouth. And maybe that's why they're never going to put me on TV, because I'll come unglued from my seat some days.

Just someday, I hope I'll get a chance to sit among these the punditory of this world, the so called news journalists of this world, who with their with their fancy haircuts and their designer clothes, sit around election tables and talk about this flyover country and how you know. One presidential candidate called us the basket of deplorables, and now another presidential candidates talking points are we are weird? And I thought to myself, I said, have you seen

any of your parades? Have you seen how you guys look? Have you seen any of your TikTok videos of who you are? With your eyebrows toward one way, your hair, one color you've got all times? I mean, you know the best one is. I mean, if I ever see a person with a tattoo that says nothing is permanent, or they say no regrets and regrets is misspelled like in that movie, I don't know whether to argue with

them or just laugh. So maybe in this final segment, we'll just take a deep breath and ask ourselves, how do you defend when someone calls you a weird? I mean, you wear both a shirt and jeans. Odds are if you wear shoes, unless they're fashionable. Your old fashioned like me obviously prefers socks. If you work in a farm, you may wear boots. You probably wear a hat that has a flag on it, and that's just because you're

proud of your country. But why is it that when you wear a hat with a flag on it, or you have a hat that talks about something you believe in, someone sitting next to you on a plane says, I'm offended, offended by what common sense? I have a flag that I bought. I mean, I have a hat that I bought somewhere, which I'm wearing through this election season, especially when I'm in public, and it just simply says Washington Adams, and it says seventy nine eighty nine Washington Adams eighty nine,

and nobody, even adults. I'm assuming every Conservative would know this, and every Republican should know this. But I'm guaranteeing you a dollar to a donut, which is my favorite non bet that a majority of people, even with some understanding of American history, will look at that and say, oh, that must be some local election. Washington, of course, and Adams were George Washington first president, John Adams his first vice president. That was eight years Eighteen eighty nine was

the election. People often wonder if we had our declaration of independence in seventeen seventy six, why did the elections take so long? Well, seventeen seventy six were the declaration, I think eighty three was the treaty that was ratified. Eighteen eighty seven was the constitution? Was seventeen eighty seven the Constitution was framed, and so that first election took place a little later. Well, that's just a brief history lesson. I may be off on a year here or there.

But when I wear that hat, people look at me quizzically. An Indian immigrant who they're supposed to be nice to because apparently I need their pity, is wearing a hat that is quasi red and white and blue, and it's got the words Washington Adams and it's got a date, and they want to ask me what it means. They're afraid to ask me because they don't want to sound insight to me, and I'll be honest with you. I have played into that ignorance and I must confess in

some way because I'm a brownskinned immigrant from India. Sometimes, you know, people will dance on eggshells to to get the point across to me. And I actually played the card as if I'm just dumb, and then even though I make a controversial statement, they end up apologizing to me. And it's so much fun to see them squirm. But you know, when I wear that hat and someone looks at me, it says which election is that? I said?

Like everyone an important one? And they kind of look at me and realize okay, and they just say, oh, a nice hat, and they walk on. They have no idea what I said, and I don't think they want any more to be said. But this season, this season, as we look at our elections, let's get away from the noise. Let's look in our hearts. Let's look at our friends and talk to them in a nice manner.

Let's do it not through hysteria, but through history. Better yet, I'm believer an otadist too, I'm a believer in Jesus Christ. I'm a Christian. I would rather do it through his story. When I look at the history of this nation, not all of them believed to the degree that some of us would want belief to be written. Not all of them may have been as vocal. But Thomas Jefferson himself, who was a self professed Dais, they say, wrote the

Jefferson Bible. Now, what is the Jefferson Bible? He said, he disagreed with the miraculous or the divine, but agreed with the moral And he just took four of the Gospels and from it he pulled out the moral teachings. And I think it's called the Jefferson Bible, the Moral Teachings of Jesus of naz Now, many people in America don't know that such a document exists. So such a book was written by a man who was fairly young when he decided to take on the needs of this country.

As we wind up, I want to thank Todd for allowing me to graciously be the host again or the guest host for his program. Today. We talked about elections. I talked emotionally at times, because I'll be honest with you, I do have a trepidation in my heart and a little fear that the nation I left after living here eight years thirty nine now to be glorious is a nation that is quite different from the one I'm leaving behind. So till we reconnect again, I hope you all have

a blessed day and a blessed time. Thank you for inviting me into your homes and hearts. We'll talk to you soon. God bless