Attention. You're listening to the top Huff radio show, America's home for conservative not bitter talk radio. Be advised. The content of this program has been documented to prevent and even cure liberalism, and listening may cause you to lean to the right. Here's your conservative but not Bitter host, Todd Huff. Well, thank you Glenn for that absolutely astounding introduction. It is a pleasure to be here today. You know the email Todd at totoshow dot com.
You can also text three one seven two one zero twenty eight to thirty thoughts, questions, feedback, you know, the drill. Always include that adoration and praise. Of course, kidding, not kidding again, it is a pleasure to be here. Thank you for joining us today. A couple of things. I want want to make sure that we get to today. As I'm looking at the stack of stuff, and I know we got new listeners, We've got people joining up, people that have been with us from the
beginning. To that, I say, thank you very much. It's it's an honor to be on this journey alongside of you. I started in August of twenty fifteen, and here we are, what eight years, eight years later? Man time flies, and some of you that are brand new, brand spanking new to the show, we welcome you as well. I mentioned that because I talked about the things we talk about on the show are actually on the website, the articles that I reference and so forth, and you
can get any of those. Sometimes I might mention something that I didn't put and what I call the stack of stuff, which also, by the way, is a hat tip to the late great Rush Limball. That's what he used to call his show prep for the day. That's what we call ours as well. It's right there on the homepage at titepshow dot com should you
want to see anything that we talk about today. So I want to start with something that I've mentioned before that is starting to raise its ugly head again, and that is the all out assault on Donald J. Trump, which of course we all know, but from multiple fronts. So we've got the impeachments that they well, if you go back into history, we've got first and foremost, we've got the Russian collusion delusion, which, again, as I've said on this program so many times before, it never made any sense,
never made any sense. We were told that Trump was a terrible human being, we were told that Trump's associates were basically one mill one millimeter better than Satan himself. Yet somehow those people that were around Trump were not bad enough, were not evil enough. Trump had to go to Russia, had to call up Putin to say, hey, do you have any social media marketers? Do you have any people that can create some ads that I can put on Facebook and Twitter? Now of course is known as x I.
Guess what do you call it? Do you still call them tweets? I don't need I'm confused on this. We've been using that platform a little bit more lately. Are they still Is this still Twitter? Do I still tweet? I'm I know that it says posts now it used to say tweet. I don't know what's going on there. But anyway, so Trump says, create, give me your your best team of social media markers to create ads that I can put on Facebook, ads that I can put on Twitter now
known as x now. In addition to that, we're gonna use some of those ads on Pokemon Go. And the purpose of the ad is to trick people that should be voting for Hillary Clinton into voting for me. Wawww right, let me rub my hands together as some evil plot unfolds here, mister Putin, they're sitting in the Kremlin sipping vodkil. Though that's not the case because Trump's Trump doesn't drink because of alcoholism he saw in his family, although
I'm sure that the media would say he's lying about that too. He was sipping vodka with Vladimir Putin in the Kremlin itself. So they created these ads. They tricked people, tricked people into voting for Trump that should have been voting for Hillary, which is just the stupidest thing. As a person,
I used to work in a marketing firm. I don't mean to portray myself as some marketing expert or something, but I can tell you this, if it were that easy, if it were that easy, every single person running for office, every single person who had a business, would be knocking down the door of this ad agency, of Putin's ad agency, Putin Putin Rus or whatever you would call Putin's Facebook team or whatever, knocking on their door, Hey, can you create some ads for me? Because if it was
that successful, I'd like to piggyback on that. I'd like to put that to good use. Of course, it's ridiculous and by the way, the final step of a conspiracy to steal an election. I said this all the way back in twenty sixteen, and I say it today. Of course, saying it today has a whole different connotation than it had in twenty sixteen. But I said, never, in the history of stealing elections, Never in
any plan to overthrow an election, to stage a coup or whatever. Never in all of the plans in history, is the last phase of a plan to overthrow an election a marketing campaign. Never an advertising campaign. That's not how that works. We're gonna do this and that get all the way to the election, and people sitting around the table are eagerly awaiting to hear the
plan to success successfully win the election. And you drop this since we're gonna run an ad campaign on Facebook and Twitter and Pokemon go, you talk about a discouraged group of people. If they wait, people, these these folks sitting around the table had to think. You gotta be kidding. How is that the final stage of this anyway? But now now we know, and I said this back in twenty sixteen, the way to steal an election is
to actually interfere with the vote counts. The way to steal an election is to stuff ballot boxes. That's the way that you do this, right, That's the how you do it. You don't do an ad campaign. So it started with that, and it went into so many other things. They spied on his campaign. They called for his impeachment, publicly called for his impeachment as early as day eleven. We know that they spent the first couple of weeks crying and screaming at the universe. Ah, universe, you gave
us Trump. Right. Some of them still do that, some of them, some of them who are calling for his lifetime of imprisonment are the same people. The same people. Actually, let me say it this way, every person and that hosted a cry in in twenty sixteen, every person who could not attend college courses, college class the day after election day in twenty sixteen, every person who requested an adult service dog, every person who adult
requested an adult coloring book. All of those people who were trying to cope so called cope from a Trump presidency in twenty sixteen. These are the same jokers and clowns that are screaming for his conviction today. They're the same jokers and clowns that want us to take them seriously, forgive me for not falling into line on that. And so we've had impeachment one, we've had impeachment two. We've had the so called January sixth insurrection, where they say Trump
was an insurrectionist trying to overthrow this country, stage a coup. Forget that he said peacefully and patriotically, march to the capitol. That doesn't matter, No one cares. Half the world doesn't even know he said that. Half the world would tell you that he didn't say that because they've been told by the jokers and clowns of various numerous media outlets that that wasn't the case, even though it's demonstrably the case, it's absolutely positively true. Doesn't matter,
None of that matters, None of that matters. The mind will justify what the heart desires, and the heart of these radical leftist desires for there not to be a President Trump, not to be a second term of President Trump. And so, as I often do on this program, my reference in fact earlier was it this week or Latin earlier this week, I think talked about one of my favorite Seinfeld episodes when George Costanza took the IQ, Well,
he didn't take it. He tricked his girlfriend into thinking he took the IQ test, and I shared that earlier this week. But there's another sign Feld episode that I quote sometimes as well, and that's when Jerry found out that his arch nemesis Newman wanted to be transferred to the Hawaii Postal Service, that particular branch, that particular route in Hawaii, and Newman being Newman quit
before he even got started. Jerry said, what are you doing? Pick up the pace, man, because if you do a good enough job, they'll send you to Hawaii. And there's nothing I, as Jerry Seinfeld, desire more. And he he says a statement to Newman. He says, I'll do is whatever. How does he say it? He says, I'll do whatever it takes as long as it takes me, so long as it takes you away from me, and I would tell you. And that's in Actually a version of that statement is in this week's column, which you can
read Todd haveshow dot com slash column. You can sign up to get those for free by email. But I write about that this week a little bit. Take it in a little bit different direction than what we're saying here, but that'll be in the column that goes out today. But this is the strategy of the left. They'll do whatever it takes, as long as it takes them, so long as it keeps Trump out of the White House.
If it takes him to the local tentuary, so be it. If it takes him and puts him into seclusion for the rest of his life at mar A Lago, so be it. They don't really care. I mean, they would love to see the guy suffer, Make no mistake, they would love to see him personally suffer. They they they don't agree. They don't agree with the Biblical verse that says vengeance's mind declares the Lord. They say vengeance is theirs, and they are going to divvy it out with everything that
they've got. They are going to drop the hammer on this guy. They would love to see him suffer and you know, face as many difficulties as possible. They take pleasure out of the suffering of Trump or anyone candidly that doesn't share their morally bankrupt worldview. Now I'm talking again about the radical extremist leftists. I'm talking about your rank and fiuled Democrat voter. I'm not even talking about your average bleeding heart liberal. I'm talking of about those who hate
this country. I'm talking about those who have fallen victim to the messaging and the propaganda that's being fed to them by the seven pillars of propaganda in this in this nation. By the way, just since we're talking about that, the seven pillars of propaganda, this is this is kind of a central component. And by the way, I'll tell you what those are. And this is building on an idea that Rush developed years ago. He caught it, the four corners of deceits. But I don't think he he had enough of
them. I think that there's other areas that needed to be added to this list. And so these are the seven pillars of propaganda. Now this isn't in no particular order. We've got the government, right, We've got academia, educate quote unquote education you could say in doctrination, entertainment and that can be Hollywood celebrities, that can be athletes, other folks in what we would widely refer to as entertainment. We've got, of course, the media,
which nothing needs to be said about that. We've got science and what do I mean by that. We've got the jokers in science who tell us to trust the science, but yet we see all sorts of evidence that science was
manipulated, that we were not allowed to hear all of the science. If you're someone who practices science, if you're a scientist and you disagree with the status quo of the messaging of the well the radical left scientists, then you need to be silenced, attacked, have your license taken away, sued, what have you, Especially if you come out and say anything differently about something like COVID. We've got big business, big woke business, I might say,
and then we've got big tech. These are the seven pillars. And what do I mean by that? I mean these are the seven They're a pillar because they're holding up this broken ideology, this broken worldview, this morally bankrupt way of looking at the world, and it's broken. But they have these control of these levers of power. And I've said on the show that eighty percent of this country would agree with eighty percent of the things I say.
I think it should be one hundred percent agree agreeing with one hundred percent. But that's beside the point. The only way that you can get from that, and I'm folks, we in this audience, You and me, We are the antithesis of what these folks in the Seven Pillars of Propaganda are trying to do. There's more of us, more people agree with us, but they're more vocal, and they've also got control of these levers of power,
and they use them as pillars to prop up their broken ideology. And they use propaganda, and what I mean by that they use their positions of power, their positions of authority in the minds of some people, to further a message that is designed to elicit a certain type of political outcome. They will withhold information, they will make up information, they will mislead you on information, they will do anything but tell you the truth, because their side
is not on it's not on the truth. And so these are the folks that are pushing for this next phase of the process against Trump, which is to have him removed from the ballot in twenty twenty four in states like Colorado and Minnesota. I think has a court Supreme Court hearing in their state this week Thursday, I believe tomorrow. So that is where we are. So the seven Pillars of Propaganda and the radical lefts, leftists that kind of control
these levers of power, the ones that are carrying the messaging. They are in full attack mode on President Trump on multiple fronts, the indictments and the charges, just the political you know, the narrative of the day, misrepresenting who he is, misrepresenting his record, trying to demonize and attack this guy, and also trying to keep him off the ballot, trying to say that because he was overseeing quote unquote overseeing or leading an insurrection on January sixth,
the twenty twenty one, he should not be allowed to run for office because he tried to stage a coup. That's the argument. That's the legal that's actually in courts now, my friends, that's being argued. And so whatever it takes, as long as it takes them, so long as it takes Trump out of the White House in any future point in time. That is their position. That is their strategy, and in some ways it works.
But in other ways, the American people I've been waking up so again they are trying to have him removed from the ballot via the fourteenth Amendment by claiming he was responsible for an insurrection and ergo therefore should not be allowed to run for president because he's disqualified, they claim because he tried to over I can't even say this with a straight face, overthrow the government. And so I gave context. It's to show their incessant, NonStop attacks against the guy.
I've given you the ways that they do this through the seven pillars of propaganda. And so I know that you know much of this. My guess is that you know people that don't know any of this. So it's important that we communicate these things. It's important that we understand these things, and we're
not afraid to discuss these things. My goodness, it's obvious for anybody who wants to see the truth of my friends, quick time out a little bit long that first segment you're listening here to consider of it, have not better talk. I'm your host, dodd Of back in just a minute. Welcome back, my friends. So we know that the left is engaged in all
out war. Their biggest fear, you know, their biggest fear. It's tempting to say their biggest fear is Trump, and I think as an individual person, as an individual candidate, I would say, yes, that that is correct. Their biggest fear as far as a person who can put into action the things that they fear. They fear Trump, But ultimately what they fear is the American people. That's the fear. They fear you, my friends. They fear you knowing the truth. They fear you communicating that truth
with people in your circle. They fear your autonomy. They fear your freedom of choice, they free They fear, I should say they fear you. I mean having a you know, doing anything that they can't control. Right. They don't like you homeschooling, They don't like you running a business. They don't like you honestly going to church. The rad I'm talking about the radical extremists here, they don't like that. The Communists didn't like it.
Communists didn't like churches because it actually it actually, of course, if you follow biblical teaching, our ultimate authority is God himself. And the communist state says, bet me, we're the ultimate authority. So they couldn't be having that because that challenged their authority, which is absolutely and utterly laughable to think that a government, I mean just just the pure arrogance, the pure arrogance of humanity sometimes is incredible. But they fear you. They fear you accessing
and living out your freedom. They fear you figuring out what's going on behind the curtain. That's what they fear. And so they fear someone who can't be controlled. They fear someone who doesn't need the system to make themselves wealthier or to give themselves more power and clout and authority. And along comes Donald Trump, and he turns the whole thing on its head. And again I mentioned this earlier just in passing, but as I'm saying these words, it
just reminds me. I wrote about this in Our Concern I Not Bitter column. It goes out today again a different spin, so to speak, but wrote about why he's the guy for the job. I wrote about why for the first time, for the first time since I started this show, I did something I never thought I would do, which has endorse somebody in the primary. I just really never thought I would do that. And I talk about that, and I've mentioned that on here before. But I think we're
just in different times. We're in different times. There is plenty of unfinished business. We have a out an out of control government that needs to be confronted at every turn, and it's important that we continue to push forward with this momentum. And I'll tell you, and you know this is a this is a lifelong fight. I've shared this quote before, I'll share it again. Reagan said that we are always simply one generation away from having the light
of liberty extinguished. We're one generation away from the extinction of liberty. And we don't pass that along to our children in the bloodstream. We don't pass that along just you know, through DNA. It just doesn't happen because people naturally understand it. It has to be taught, it has to be shared.
You know. I think about stories in the Bible, and there's these Ebenezer stones, and when the people of Israel crossed the Jordan River, that same Jordan river, by the way that the pro Palestinian slash pro Hamasque groups are chanting from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, Meaning we're going to wipe Israel off of that entire plot of land. Ask them
where Israel's going to go. They don't know, they don't care. Actually, if they were being honest, they want Israel to be eradicated from the face of the earth. That's what Amasa's charter says. But as Israel crossed that river, the Jordan River, and if you read the biblical account in the Book of Joshua, you'll know that God parted that river, and that
as the priest stepped into the river with the ark of the Covenant. As they stepped into that river, the water began to part, which is interesting because it's similar to the Red Sea story, but it's different. They actually had to step into it first before the water stopped. There's a whole sorts of lessons here. But what they did was they built a stone sort of a monument, and they build it on the banks, or they built it
right there where they crossed the river. And God's instruction to them was when you pass by and you see those stones and your children say, Dad, Mom, is what are those stones over there? Right, they can tell they've been they've been arranged. That wasn't just natural that they fell into this position? What are those stones like that for? And then it would prompt the telling of the story. Or just as you're walking by, Hey little Jimmy, Hey little Susie, do you see those stones over there? Let
me tell you a story. Well, the same is true with this country. We have to my friends, we have to be telling the story repeatedly. It's what we do on this show. One of the things that we try to do on this show is to tell that story continually because the nature of man, of humanity is to grow things. The nature of humanity is to make government bigger and individuals smaller. And in many ways it's understandable.
I mean, we're created to be builders of things, right where we can build businesses, we can build families, we can build local churches, we can build roads and highways and bridges and airplanes and airports and all this stuff. Right, we want to make things better. And there's nothing wrong with that so long as it's viewed in proper context. But when it comes to government, the Founders knew, the Founders knew ultimately that government is force.
Government is force. John Stossel talks about this. If you ever follow him on social media or watch any of his productions. I don't know if they're still on TV, but their TV quality, I don't know if they just live on the internet now or what. But it's good stuff. It's really good stuff that he produces. The government is ultimately force. And if that government that is ultimately forced is a force, is allowed to get too big, too powerful, then what happens. What happens is you have a dangerous
situation. A government then that is too big to be kept in check by its citizens is out of whack. And that's ultimately what we've got in this country, and that's ultimately why they fear Trump. It really is. They've built a nice, cushy form of existence and they don't want to give it up. They just don't want to give it up. And on top of that, there's a lot of skeletons in the closet that they don't want any of us to know about as well. Anyhow, there you go, my
friends, timeout is inn order. When we get back on the shift gears just a little bit. You're listening here to conservative not better talk, my friends. I am your host, the beloved Todd Huff Back in just a minute. Welcome back, my friends. I mentioned earlier that we are now moving quickly through the fourth quarter, fourth quarter of the year. The holidays, believe it or not, are right around the corner. Today is November first, and by the way, I should take a moment say happy birthday
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Here moving into twenty twenty four. So I told you during the last segment I wanted to shift gears, and I do. I want to shift gears to a conversation that was had during a press conference Kareean Jean Pierre recently. This might have been this might have been Monday, Kareean Jean Pierre taking
questions from Peter Doucey. And I want you to hear this exchange because I want to talk about this and it's a couple of minutes here, so I want to play this, but I want you to listen to this back and forth, this back and forth about why the administration refuses to use the term extremists when dealing with people who hate Israel. Today, now, in defense of the White House, which I'll never I'm trying to be fair here. The White House has come out and condemned a lot of this anti Semitic stuff.
But they just they don't go after these folks the way that they go after the Maga Republican crowd, That's for sure, and that's kind of where these questions come from. So I want you to listen to this exchange. Peter Doucy, Karine, Jean Pierre. I'll play this bit, this SoundBite, and then we'll talk about it in the remainder of the program. Here. It is very loud and be and be very clear of jumped. Remember what the president stop that? Why did it do that? Do think the
anti Israel protesters in this country are extremists? What I can say is what we've been very clear about this. When it comes to anti Semitism, there is no place. We have to make sure that we speak against it very loud and be and be very clear about that. Remember what the president decided when the President decided to run for president, is what he saw in Charlottesville in twenty seventeen when he saw neo Nazis marching down the streets of Charlottesville with
vile, anti Semitic, just hatred. And he was very clear then and he's very clear now. He's taken actions against this over the past two years, and he's continued to be clear there is no place, no place for this type of vile And despite despite this kind of rhetoric, we hear you guys don't talk about extremists all the time. It is usually about magat extremists. So what about these protesters who are making Jewish students feel on college campuses?
Are they extremists? I've been very very clear. We are calling out any form of hate, any form of hate. It is not acceptable. It should not be acceptable here, and we are going to continue to call that out. And and let me be very clear, this is a president that has continues to have that fight in his office in this administration. You know, when he repealed Trump's Muslim band on his very first first day in
office, that is something that this presently did. He also established an inter Policy Committee to counter Islamophobia, anti anti Semitism, and related forms of bias and discrimination. We have taken this very very very seriously from the President all the way on down. Does President If I look at these kanti Israel protests on college campuses and think it's nice to see, I'm going to stop it
there. I don't want to get into that part. It's this continuation of the same stuff, but it reminds me I meant to say this before I started. There's a comedian, excuse me that I listened to actually is my favorite comedian. His name is Nate Argetsi. Nate Burghetzi was Actually he hosted Saturday Night Live this past week. I haven't seen it. I've seen clubs, but I might actually well watch when he's on there. But the point
is Nate Marquetzi. He has this joke that he tells where he says, I get this phone call from my wife, he says, and he said, I feel like before she got that call, someone told her to use the phrase one fell swoop like forty to fifty times, and because when she calls, she's used this phrase one fell swoop. And she was talking about going her parents are divorced, talking about going to see her dad and seeing her mother and she uses the term one fell swoop, and she uses Nate
says forty to fifty times. And so, as I was listening to this clip, how many times did Kaarine Jehan Pierre say the word clear? Let me be clear, let me be very clear. I bet she said it eight times in that clip. Not only that, she was reading from her talking point, so she was coming in prepared to talk about this. She wanted to remind us that Biden is the one who's trying to apparently stop stop the hate. Somehow, that's what we're supposed to believe. Biden's out there
trying to stop the hate. You remember, Biden's the one who told the unvaxed that they you know, we've had enough of you people. We've had enough. If you're unvaxed, we've had it with you. We're tired of messing with you. Be an American patriot. Go get your booster, your shot, your fifth shot, don't ask questions. We're tired of dealing with you, very loving, very peacefully. Of course, they want to talk
about Trump's quote unquote Muslim band. It was not a Muslim band. There was a ban on people coming from countries that had a propensity to export terrorism. That seems like a very logical thing to me. But if you noticed, she still didn't come out. She still didn't come out. She used the term Islamophobia. She used the term while she talked very derogatorily about the Maga crowd. But the Doocey's point, why are the only extremists the Maga
extremists to the Biden administration? What about the Islamic extremists? Can you call them out? Let me be very clear, Peter, Let me be clear. This president hates all forms of hate. Let me be clear, Peter. Let me be very clear, Peter, lad bad. It's the same garbage time in time and time again. I should say so timeouts in order. But why why is there such an interest in calling Well, we know this politically right, but just just ask your suffer for people that don't follow
Polo. I know you follow politics, but just for those who don't follow it in your circle, ask them why the only time the administ seems to talk about terrorism is domestic terrorism. I mean, we have people that are cheering in the streets applauding the acts of terror committed by Hamas and this administration, while little say there shouldn't be an anti semitism, and I commend them
for doing that. And this is hard for these folks to do, to get the gumption up to do it, unless they're trying to politically posture and virtue signal. But they need to do a lot more than that. They need to call out the real problem here, and the real problem are the actual terrorists and the people that support them. Call me crazy, but that's who the problem is here, not the MAGA crowd. Quick time out my friends back here in just a minute. Welcome back to my friends. Look
I am. In fact, I had a brief exchange with someone on social media the other day. I don't do this much. I know I've mentioned this a couple times. I think I mentioned I think I mentioned it every time I've done it, because look, I mean the truth is, most people on there are not really I mean, there's a lot of the starting point for a Facebook face off or a Twitter showdown is usually pretty amped up, right, I mean, they're not necessarily coming in to find agreement.
It's much different I think in personal interactions in most cases. But anyway, but there was an exchange and I was talking about what I think. Look I don't think. I know, it's absolutely it's absolutely true that these terrorists in that run Hamas they hate Israel for religious reasons. Now that doesn't mean I don't know why this has to be said, but I'll say it anyway. That doesn't mean that every Muslim feels the same way, wants to justify
terrorism and so forth. That's not at all what that means. And so this individual who encounter the who I don't you know, had interaction with on on Twitter. I think it was said that he was a Muslim and that's not what he was taught. He knows the religion and so forth, And I said, that's fantastic. You're one of one of those who disagree with what's being done in the name of Islam. And to be clear, it's a very it's a it's a very percentage wise, is a very small minority
of people that want to do this. But yet we still have a term Islamophobia, and because some people are take that to the extreme and hate people for the religious beliefs, even those who openly condemn this. But I and that's and that's fine. I'm not that that shouldn't. The point here is to say, is the Biden administration magaphobic. I think I must start using
that that term. They're magaphobes, because one way to traditionally shut up, so to speak, the opposition political opposition, is to call them phobic, transphobic, homophobic, whatever, gender phobic. I don't know, whatever the phobias are today, maybe we should start calling Karin Jean Pierre and Biden magaphobic.
Hate people who voted for Trump. And that's a big chunk of people, my friends, seventy five million and twenty twenty timeouts in order to sit tight back in a minutut's right, my friends, the Biden administration, Karin Jean Pierre, President Joseph Robinette, Biden himself, President Bribery, they're all magaphobes, magaphobic. If I don't, I don't know how else to make the than just to play the words that I played recently there from Kreine Jean
Pierre clearly magaphobic. She has more an administration that has more angst and anger towards the maga Republican crowd, to the crowd that didn't get vaccinated, than they do for radical Islamic terrorists, which are a small percentage of the entire Islamic world. I've got to go my friends, Thanks for listening. STG