Attention. You're listening to the Todd hf radio show, America's Home for Conservative not Bitter Talk radio. Be advised. The content of this program has been documented to prevents and even cure liberalism, and listening may cause you to lean to the right. Here's your conservative but not bitter host, Todd Huff. Well, it appears, my friends, that Vice President, former Vice President Mike Pence has finally, finally, what are we August ninth, two weeks
from the debate stage? Two weeks. I just you talk about a sputtering campaign to get to the threshold, the minimum thresholds to make the debate stage two weeks from the debate is absolutely astonishing from the former vice president of the United States. Yikes. This is precisely why we all know and why we spoke about this on this program outlining why it was a horrific idea. Again, short of God saying telling Penns to do this, this is just terrible,
terrible idea. So greetings, my friends. By the way, you've tuned into America's Home for Conservative not Bitter Talk. I am your host, Todd Huff. Email Todd at Todd Huff show dot com. Thoughts questions feedback, Yes, yes, yes, always include that adoration and praise. Feeling pretty good today, So ten percent more than you expect to include is probably enough, but it never hurts the throw in a little bit extra as well. You can also text three one seven two one zero two eight three zero
message and data rates may apply. So I don't want this to be I don't want this to be focused too much on Mike Pence, And as I've shared on this program before, I just I really I don't like. I don't like to do this. I don't like to be in a position all right where I think it's it's obvious that what's happening within the Republican Party is not good for Republicans in general, and it's definitely not good for the liberty
loving Republicans, the limited government types, the non establishment types. And I think that it's clearly what this campaign is shaping up to be. It is Trump versus everyone else. And with some exceptions. Vvak Ramaswami, who I
think is trying to walk that tightrope the right way. VVEK is trying to say what is happening the Trump regarding these indictments, this political witch hunt, the continuation of that is inexcusable, but while at the same time also saying that he would be better choice for president, and that's I've got no problems
with that. What I have problems with, and I cannot ignore, is when the Republican Party sounds more like the Democrat Party and the media than the Democrat Party does at the moment, I mean, we are we, I
say we. I don't even consider myself a Republican. And this is one of the reasons, one of the reasons why I mean, I hold my nose a lot of times when you know, having to make some of these choices for elections, when it you know, I'm I know, I know, and you know that some of these folks, maybe even many of these folks that we've for as Republicans, are just not really in it the way that we are in it, the way that we believe America doesn't just need
to slow its march towards progressivism, which is a misnomer. It's the radical leftist ideology, the broken and morally bankrupt worldview upon which it's predicated and built upon, which is sinking sand. By the way, leads to all sorts of stuff like the trans ideology. We've got pornographic books for children now, and there was a By the way, a library director in the state of Virginia has resigned after parents in the community asserted pressure, a healthy pressure,
by the way, good good. This sort of stuff needs to be completely eradicated. But it is. It is what the leftist worldview is built upon. It's filth, it's it's the rejection of truth and reality. Anyway. But when I see the Republican Party begin to par at those points, it, I mean, it lights a fire in me because to traditionally the Republican Party wouldn't wouldn't go there. Another Republican Party hasn't gone woke. I don't mean that, I just it made me think of that. But it has
gone. It has gone. It's broken from the Trump supporters to and the establishment types. The establishment types do not want Trump back in this party for a myriad of reasons. They're personally embarrassed publicly by Trump. It affects probably some of the places they're invited in Washington, DC. He puts them in uncomfortable positions because he has forced those who are who have can pained by the way, who often campaign and fundraise on doing the very things that Trump is
pushing through. He actually holds their feet to the fire metaphorically, take it easy. I don't mean that it's a form of torture. It's a it's just a way of speech, a figure of speech, holding their feet to the fire, holding them accountable. They don't like that. Who likes accountability? Really, By the way, no one really likes that thriving us. Suppose there's son, but most people don't like accountability. But accountability pushes us
to excellence, It makes us follow through on the things. It's it's another healthy pressure that helps us to do the things that we've pledged to do. And so it's a good thing. But they don't like it. They don't like it when Trump's out there doing it and he embarrasses them. It's hard enough to be I can hear these folks talking now. It's hard enough to be a Republican in Washington, DC. Let a load having to have a
guy who's out there sending tweets about Kofifi or whatever it is. And why they get so embarrassed it is, I don't know if they have this low of a self self image, self esteem, whatever you want to call it, is do you think that poorly about your yourself? Is your identity so tied up in just your particular stance on an issue or what someone else who shares your political party affiliation says about an issue. Are you that fragile to
worry it just crushes you and just ruins your day? For goodness sakes, And these are not that hard of things to do, especially when the silent majority is firmly, firmly behind those that have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to this stuff. And so the establishment has decided they don't want Trump for several reasons. Number one, a lot of them are not principled. They're not principled conservatives. They'll certainly be content with making you think that, they'll
be content with telling you that they're there for conservative principles and values. And you've seen the campaign ads. You see the campaign ads. Around campaign season, the law probably start playing Jason Alden's try That in a Small Town, which that's not a knock the Aldean. I actually like that song a lot. I think there's a lot of truth in that song. But you know, you start, they'll be happy to manipulate it to position themselves to benefit
from those things. But when it comes time to actually do it, what do they do. They cower, they run, They realize that it's not really that important. That's what happens whenever you get inside many folks, when they get inside of the belly of the beasts and they begin to, you know, get some of the benefits, so they can see why this is a cushy gig. I can have power, I can money. People want my presence, They applaud me and give me the seats of honor at these
events and so forth. It's a nice place to be. People are smiling, they want their picture taking with me, They write nice things about me
in the media, blah blah, on and on it goes. But you know what, I would ask myself this question if I was these jokers and clowns permeating the Republican Party today, I would ask myself number one, Number one, do you think do you think that the things that the establishment class, the ruling class in the seventeen seventies would have written adoring pieces about folks like Samuel Adams or Thomas Jefferson or Paul Revere or any of the signers of
the Declaration of Independence, would they have done that no, but we do those things today because they stood for principle. Now, I would maintain, if you're doing it for the accolades, you're doing it for the wrong reasons. All right, We've been through this before, and you know this as well as I. Character is who you are. When no one is looking for my brothers and sisters in Christ, you know we are instructed to do the right thing without even drawing attention to ourselves, right, I mean,
don't let the left hand know what the right hand is doing. When you go to pray, close the door, don't make it a spectacle or a scene. Jesus says that people that do those sorts of things have received their reward in full. And that's because their reward, so to speak, is the praise or the honor the accolades of man. And that's not what we should be after, especially in these positions that are supposed to be supposed to
be public servant positions. Right, these people tell us constantly, oh, I'm giving up, I'm giving up my career, wink wink, to enter into a world of public service. Now, it certainly can be public service for those who do it the right way, but for those who do it the wrong way, I e. Hunter Biden, I E. The big guy, allegedly, I E. Allegedly President Bribery, and I there's a list of one hundred miles long of names that could be you know, included
there. But if you do it that way, of course, you can do it as filthily, that's even the way you say that as possible. You can make it as dirty and as rotten and as stinking as you want to make it. And if you have no personal guard rails, no personal ethics, morals, whatever you want to call it, to keep you on on the track of the good or just the legal, even the morally acceptable,
then you get positions of power and it goes to people's heads. It's why it's been written and stated for a long long time that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. This is the nature, this is human nature, which is something either our politicians ignore or do not have a handle
on because of the way that they approached governance and American life today. But I am for one completely over the establishment part of the Republican Party, which I would now put s firmly in the center, well in the center of that mix. I wouldn't say the leader because he can't even get enough donors just now. Penn's barely got enough donors to get to the debate stage in
two weeks. I mean, that's embarrassing, that's inexplicable. Well, it's not inexplicable if you understand context and the complete story and what's going on here. But the folks who want to run the party, the folks who are currently running the party have run the party, and there may be some exceptions. This is not meant to be a blanket statement. I do think that the Trump movement has actually inspired a lot of people who aren't part of that
established elitist group, and I think that that's a good thing. The more people talk about, you know, this is not the traditional role or the way that a politician would handle it, I say, bring it on, because the way that the politicians have handled it, the role that they have been playing, and how they've been filling that role, has been completely completely abysmal. Our record, we are, folks, we are completely what is
our debt now? Thirty one almost thirty two trillion dollars deficit spending left and right, open borders, Afghanistan withdrawal, and While it's lower than it was, which was unbelievably high, it's still it's still higher than normal. We have a complete, unmitigated disaster in every conceivable way. We have censorship going on. We have government targeting political opponents in the case of Trump or by
the way, anybody else that dares to get in the way. And this is a message as well, This is a message for anybody else who's gonna try these shenanigans. You want to try the shenanigans of trying to dismantle or to stop the machine of Washington, DC. They will come after you. When Trump put on social media, if you come after me, I'll come after you. People act like that's the grave offense here. Now, what's the grave offense is that we have a government that's already doing it. And
as Shakespeare said, one may smile and smile and be a villain. One may tell you consistently, routinely, repeatedly that they are doing what's in your best interest, looking out for your democracy, trying to protect your elections, blah blah blah. And in reality, they themselves are the cancer. They themselves are the problem. Folks. The battle lines here in this cold civil war have been clearly drawn. They have been clearly drawn, and we have
to decide there's a biblical versus. Well, I don't want to get preacher here, but choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve as a verse in the Bible at some point, and I would say, we're there. We have to choose which side of this metaphorical line that we are going to
end up on. Are we going to end up on the side of liberty and limited government and freedom of religion and freedom of speech and true legitimate tolerance, which means I will tolerate people's exercise of their freedoms so long as they don't infringe directly upon mine, even if they are one hundred percent antithetical to what I believe that is. That's what's at stake here. The other side,
what's the other side? The other side arguing. The other side is arguing more control for the government, and in many cases they're arguing for a global government. They're arguing for things like some of the radicals, like decreased population, higher taxes. They're arguing for more control over the things that you drive, the things that you eat, the things that you wear. They're going to somehow step in and determine the sea levels in a hundred years.
You know how laughable this is. These jokers and clowns cannot do the most basic of things. They can't fill potholes, but they can control the sea levels. How about that? It is markable. These are the lines that have been drawn, and the lines are what you know. If I am on the side of liberty and limited government, and free will and choice, and freedom of religion and speech and freedom of assembly, freedom to have ideas
separate or different from mine, there's a novel concept today. I applaud people who have ideas that they've thought through. What I don't like are people who have ideas that are parroted to them through the media and through whatever other leftist channels, entertainment and so forth, public school system. I look at this and I appreciate the freethinkers, even if they come to different conclusions than me, because most people are not free thinkers who are on that side of growing
the government. They're not free thinkers. If they were freethinkers, the chances are they would be on the side of liberty. It would be on the side that we are on. And the Republican Party, and there's a couple. It's not just Trump. The war is being waged against Trump right now, and there are other promising voices there. I'm not I look, some of you don't see it this way. But this program does not exist to defend Trump. This program actually started before Trump. It was right after we
announced to run. I guess it was August. It's actually tomorrow is our eight eight year anniversary. August tenth, or excuse me, August tenth, twenty fifteen, So that's when we started. But it wasn't about that. It's about these ideas and when someone is defending them, and then and then when they're targeted, when they're targeted by people who are hell bent on preventing our ideas from ever again saying the light of day, they want to move
away from those ideas towards something that is not good for human kind. It's not good for you, even if it's good for someone temporarily, is just temporarily. Even for those who say, hey, give me freebees, take money from the wealthy and give me stuff that may feel good temporarily, but in the end, that is not the solution. The only equality that the lovers of big government can guarantee and ensure is the equality of suffering or the
equality of the lack that we will all have. I'm long in this segment. Got some sound bites I want to get to. Pence is on the wrong side of this. I'm disgusted by this. I want to play a sound bite that he had where he may actually he may have just unintentionally admitted to the reality that he did have the authority to reject electors on January sixth of two and twenty one. I got other things I want to get to
as well today. But these things are relevant as we're two weeks away from the debate, the first debate, and it's relevant to the overall direction of the Republican Party and where this campaign will go in the weeks and months to come. But a time out's in order. Really along in the segment, I'm at the trunk at it. Next time you understand and you will forgive
me. I'm way off. New Year's Resolution has been violated tremendously. Here the segments to type my friends back in just a minute, coming back, my friends. So I've been talking about again Pence, really, the Republican the establishment of the Republican Party, and which now I would say is clearly part of the well, that's where Pence is there. There is the the I would say, principled limited government crowd, and I know that this is
where most this is where a huge chunk other Republican Party is. It's it's the principled conservative, limited government crowd. And then there's the establishment side, which are the people who you know, they're kind of they don't like to deal with the principled conservatives. They kind of think that we're beneath them. We're not as intelligent as them. We're a bunch of hay seed hicks. We're probably from flyover country places. Many of them would never dare dark in
the doors of that part of the country or whatever. And you know that they like they like free market economics, but all the other stuff, it just it's just too much for them. Meanwhile, some of those folks are scratching their heads wondering why, wondering why there is an all out of sault happening in their kids' schools or their grandkids schools because the leftists have infiltrated it
and taken it over. In some cases, they want to do something about that, but I would say, I don't want to ever say it's too late, but I would say it's a little you're a little late to the game on that. These the battles that determine how your child or your grand grandchild school, or my kids will be home school. But even then, the battle to determine how what that school looks like. Those battles were fought a long time ago, and that is formulated and taking shape over over time.
And so I appreciate that these things can grab people's attention, But it's kind of like putting your hand on a hot burner and then realizing it's hot and that it burns your hand and you start to shake it and put it into the hot water. It's the heat sensation that your body picks up on the nerves in your hand picks up on a sense to your brain to say it's move your hand. It means there's already been a problem. It's the
heat has been identified from the actual problem burning your hand. Meanwhile, it would have been better as the stove was heating up metaphorically here and we were watching wokeism heat up, and we didn't do anything about it because again, some of the elitists, country club republican types didn't want to address it. They said, let's just stay in the lane of economics, let's not get into all of these quote unquote social issues. And I'm not in the business
of getting into every social issue. But I'm going to tell you if we are beyond naive, if we think that because we're not going to have the battle, that they're not going to have the battle, they are more than content. The radical left is more than content to force their worldview upon you, upon me, more importantly, upon our children. They are content doing that content. Meanwhile, we're over here wringing our hands, wondering if we
should enter the fray. And the only time some want to do anything about it is after the leftists have established a foothold in the schools or wherever in Hollywood. You know, when these things become so obvious that there are problems, it's it's such a force at that point that it's not easy to fix and to address. It's it's there's so many analogies. It's like dealing with a toothache. My mom has a problem with a now she didn't have a
previous problem. But I'm just a teeth or in my mind because I had to help my mom. My mom was something as she was setting an appointment, she had to I tell you, the amount of things you gotta digitally do to fill out paperwork before you can even go to a dentist, copy your insurance cards. You didn't know how to load the pictures and so forth.
I helped her do that. But if you're having a toothache, it's usually an indication that there might be a larger problem that if you don't that pain can be a signed to say, hey, treat this now, make some changes now so that we don't have a bigger, a bigger problem. And folks, there are warning signs, alarm bells going off left and right, and many of those alarm bells are outright ignored by the Republican establishment. And Trump did not ignore the stuff. I just but it makes people uncomfortable.
You know. It's almost like if you want to address the problem early, when it when it needs to be addressed early, then you have to be willing to take criticism from the people who don't think it's a problem yet. Why is he talking about this? What's that about? And I know Trump has his own things and personality and whatever else I get that. I'm
not here to defend or whatever attack that. I'm here to simply say that the establishment Republican Party is as big of a problem that we face in this country now, not pushing the woke crap down the throat of the American people. They're not pushing at all out communism or socialism down the throat of the American people. But they are not combating those who are effectively enough all under the guise of some sort of a gentlemanly game of politics. Look, I'm
not saying we should do anything immoral, unethical, or illegal. I would strongly say no to all of those things. But I would say that there comes a time when if it's a little bit socially unacceptable, I don't care. I don't care what's socially unacceptable. I think I would rather venture into that world. I would rather venture into the world of Oh man, it's making me uncomfortable than some of the places we've been led because people in the
establishment have not fought. They're by definition not fighters. They don't have it in them. I don't know if it's there's a myriad of reasons, especially if they're second and third generation in that crowd. It's just it's a different world old then a lot of people can relate to. So anyway, Pence is out there, Pence now, and my estimation is firmly the representative of
the establishment. You could say Chris Christy too. Potentially, I'm thinking potentially Nikki Haley, all though she's I mean, she's done some things that I'm very pleased with. Oh you know when she was when she went to the un I'm in man when she was there under Trump in the administration. Fantastic stuff. But I got a sound bite I don't want to play. Remember all a lot of what we're dealing with with Trump and these indictments and charges
and so forth. And by the way, he's about to be indicted in Fulton County, Georgia. They've had the roads, sidewalks barricaded off for a week or so. It's coming. Everybody knows it's coming, and who knows if there's going to be more after that. I mean, we should just buckle up for this. The idea, the strategy here is to break the will, is to just make there'll be so many indictments that it's too much to keep on top of that, it breaks the will of the Trump supporter.
And then that's when people like a Pence. And I'm not saying Pence is just there, he didn't orchestrate all that, but he says, here's the opportunity, you know, the opportunity is to stake my campaign here and to place push all of our chips in the middle. That Trump's going to eventually be broken by this in some way, whether it's just too much for his supporters to take, which I say good luck to that, whether it's he can't fundraise, whether it's he's actually going to be going to prison.
I mean, I'm just these are the things that they've been all in on, and by taking that position, you have become the best friend in the allies of the establishment Republican political elite, and I would maintain them when it comes to of course, the main problem in this country is the radically left woke, but the next biggest problem are the people that don't fight them,
and that, my friends, is clearly and unequivocally the establishment. The week, the just week, I guess the week in effective members of the Republican establishment. They've they've been the ones at the helm all these years. Trump was only at the helm for four years, or if you count the years since then, what is it six and a half, seven years? Whatever it is. Anyway, timeouts in order, my friends sit tight. I want to play the SoundBite from Pence when we get back just a minute.
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in fact cause you to lean to the right. So be advised as you're listening to content on this program today. So I mentioned and I've talked about this clip. Mike Pence was on with what is her name? I see her picture here, Martha McCallum, Fox News. He's on there. She's asking him about the Trump indictments. Trump's excuse me, Pence, is you know, trying to do his little a flex here, trying to sound like a tough guy. Try. It goes after Trump and Trump's attorneys. But
I want you to listen here to this because this is interesting. Remember the whole position, the whole position of those who now Pence is in this group. Now Pence is in the center of this group. He may not have been forcing the narrative, but this is again where he sees his political opportunity to be the Republican nominee. And I look, I told Odds earlier today, and I stand by I never say anybody's chances or zero because technically there's
no such thing as for something to be zero percent probability. I mean that is, it's better to say it's approaching zero. It's in reality zero. But there's a statistical probability of anything that is not a violation of the laws of nature, I suppose, And that's why he would be considered a miracle. Miracles are those things that violate laws of nature. Walking on water, for example, that violates what we know about nature. That's not the way
that that works. It's repeated time after time. You step out on a pond and it's you sink down to the ground. You don't stay on top of the water. But I would say that this is as close Pence's ability or likelihood that he's going to be the Republican nominee is as close to zero as anything I can fathom. Maybe it's point zero zero zero zero zero, I don't even know, lots of zeros, and then maybe a one somewhere thousands of digits in percent of a chance. But he's still out there.
He's the former vice president. The stuff is not personal to me. I'm just I'm I'm honestly disgusted by this anyway. He's carrying the water for the left, helping them to campaign against Trump. There's better ways to do this anyway. So he's being asked about the indictments, which again I don't I have no problem. I have no problem with him saying I disagree with what Trump said did January sixth was handled the run way, say all of those
things. But when you start pretending, when you start aren't pretending that simply that the position or that the idea that said the vice president of the United States could not accept electoral votes based on the reality that he or she is not certain that those votes are legitimate. That is absolutely something that at least you can make the case for now. You may lose that in court, okay, But this was this was always a thing that people who studied this
in much detail had had considered or had been aware of. And so maybe Pence firmly believed this was not the rule the vice president. I respect that, I know some of you do not. I respect that he thinks that that is the rule that was exceeding his role as vice president. But to say that the only people that were clamoring for this were crackpots or whatever he calls him here, attorneys and so forth. And then at the same time, listen to what he says. He knows what the prescription is, he
knows what happens. If he did not accept the electors. It goes to the House of Representatives. Ultimately, I think it first would have gone back to the States. But if it couldn't get resolved, it goes to the House of Representatives. Which if Pence folks by virtue that there is a remedy, it goes to show that he knows that it could have been a possible scenario. You don't make a remedy for something that doesn't that is not a
legitimate thing. So, for example, in football, Let's say you throw a ball down the field, a pass receiver catches it out of bounds. There's a remedy. Okay, you bring it back to the previous line of scrimmage. There's a rule for that, because they've that's something that can happen. That can happen in the game if you, for example, field a football team like Let's take an NBA basket ball team for example, by comparing
and contrasting. In the early two thousands, the Pacers are playing the Pistons, and they went into the crowd and fought the fans. Nobody knew what to do other than bring in the police and try to break it up, maybe arrest some people. There's not a rule for that in the rule book because there wasn't a remedy. Like if someone goes out of bounds with the ball in the NBA, there's a remedy. The other team gets the ball out of bounds and they can inbound it from the spot where it went out
of bounds. They're my virtue of the fact that there is a remedy. It suggests that Pence knew that it was at least something he could arguably do. He still could come down on the side of saying I don't think it was the right thing. Fine, I respect that, I don't respect how he's campaigning. And I got to take a break here because I'm long, but I'm gonna have to play this next segment. So don't mean to do that to you. Some of you might get mad at me, but I
just cannot get over this. It's not surprising. I just I don't like to see it unfold before my eye. Just the way that this is being done. It's honestly despicable if you ask me, the way that this he's campaigning on this timeouts in order to sit tight my friends back in just a minute. Com back my friends. I mentioned last segment, and I apologize for not getting to the sooner. Just so much I want to say about this. But Pence was on Fox News with Martha McCallum being asked about Trump's
indictment. Pence wants to clarify that it wasn't just that Trump and his legal team were asking for a delay in the electoral votes he wanted. Pence said for Pence to not count them period, end it reject them outright. So this is an exchange. I want you to listen to this, because if you pay attention, it seems to suggest that Pence knew that there was a remedy for rejecting the electors. Here it is. It wasn't just that they
asked for a pause. The President specifically asked me and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to literally reject votes to which would have resulted in the issue being turned over to the House of Representatives and literally chaos would have ensued. So well, Martha, I just people. People can read the indictment, and frankly, I've said before I had hoped it had not come to this point. I don't know if the government can meet the standard the burden of
proof beyond reasonable doubt for criminal charges. But the American people deserve to know that President Trump and his advisers didn't just ask me to pause. They asked me to reject votes, return votes, essentially to overturn the election. I mean, that's not what anybody it's remarkable. I mean, he has become effectively a mouthpiece of the radical left. That is, it's like he's getting the faxes or the emails, the emails from those in media matters and the
other members of the radical left. He knows, And what do you say mean when he says he had hoped it didn't get to this point? What was the other remedy? What else along the way did he think was going to happen. Should Trump only be prosecuted because he's out there still making his case. You don't have to buy into this. Pence could have said I'm not doing it, that's perfectly within his rights, no one, and then
we could debate that. But to pretend that this was an attempt to overthrow an election when in reality what's being questioned here are the validity of the initial votes. Remember, electoral votes are supposed to be electors that are based upon how the state actually voted. If we don't know that, with all due respect Vice President Pence, how do we know that we're returning anything. Maybe the electors were the ones that were overturning the election, and we don't know
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the next generation. But we have to understand that it's not just the radical left that's the biggest problem we have, but it's also people within the establishment of the Republican Party as we've discussed today. But I've got to go. SDG