David Morrill of Protestia.com Joins Us Ep-2068

though the tip of what they do. They are an organization headed by a guy named David Morrel who joins us today, and if you read further down the line, he's a deeply theological man who has paid a price for speaking his mind, both as a National Guard member and as a citizen, and he's gladly paid that price. He joins us today with the courtesy of our YouTube channel, YouTube dot com slash at The Todd Herman Show ends under the great auspices of God Almighty, But Todd.

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that podcast again off duty as a National Guardsman. We're on duty, then we're off duty, and I'm off duty and kind of irregular clothes like I am now probably wearing the same hat or something else, and I said some things that then somebody reported to the guard PAO and they decided to punish me. So they actually punished me militarily for the content, not not just that I said something, but the content of what I said, and accused me of being a racist in an official memorandum.

Accused me of being racist. And it was because I said that I didn't see the evidence that George Floyd was targeted because of his race, not that he wasn't, but just that I didn't see the evidence.

terms of the free speech that we're living in. And for me, at least, my heart is to what can I do to help service members be able to not have this.

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promo code Todd. So David these the fact that you can fillprotest you dot com on such a regular basis with these astonishing videos of heretics causing theological mischief, I think you call it. That means to me that there is a plethora of this stuff available. If you were to guess in the churches in America, what percentage do you think are biblically sound? I mean, there's some data on this, but what do you think are biblically sound churches?

You know, pastors who who preach through the whole council of God's Word, the whole council of the Bible, and they do it faithfully and they don't dodge and pick certain topics and not others depending on what the culture, you know, the current cultural zeitgeist is, usually have flocks that know how to then apply that to to their

political participation. You know, as as people who live in a country that is self governed yep, where it is the people who actually possess the the governmental political authority.

And there were plenty of us in the church body who fought against this, and ultimately the church made a bad decision and they hired the guy David I kid you, not his sermons always contain quotes from South Park, a blatantly at least antagonistic to Christ, if not anti christ show, given the way they treated the Lord Jesus every sermon. And I saw that this guy came in and that the church body was decimated and some people stayed, but it became then this political church. And I always wanted

to ask him, do you know your false teacher? I mean, do you know that you are making yourself an enemy of the Lord Jesus. Talk me through this. How many these people actually know they're lying?

And so, yeah, you're gonna have some false teachers who are knowingly false teachers. They know they're deceiving, they know they're in it for personal gain and to make themselves famous or rich or whatever. And then you're gonna have some that are they're self deceived. They really don't know.

They actually think they're doing what's right. You know, Jesus talked about this in Matthew seven when he said that there will be those on the last day that say, Lord Lord, did we not do all these things in your name?

on the pulpit. How do they approach this without making every single sermon a discussion of this bill or that bill, or this politician or that politician. I have my view, what's yours? If you get down to the actual act of standing in front of your congregation, how would you advise pastors to address things like the open lawlessness in Denver, letting you know, homeless people sees houses.

all of it. So I always encourage pastors continue to preach the truth and be responsive.

This always astonishes me that people say things in public right, and they're in their bubble think in their bubble world, and then you simply popularize it, right, popularize it here you go, what do you want pastors to be doing in eldership, in church shepherding, Because you have a friend of us who wrote a book Shepherd's for sale how do church leadership bodies, and we're part of that body, as the members of a church, how do they look for signs that the church is being politicized or being

made heretical.

the flock. You know, the Bible says, shepherd the flock among you, and so they they should be afforded the benefit. It really is a benefit of having the rest of the church around them watching their back. And we like as Christians, we need other Christians to watch our backs and tell us when we're doing something wrong and be

willing to love us enough to challenge us. You know, a big part of the reason we challenge, you know, guys that we think are teaching falsely or people that are doing things in the name of Christ that are that are not biblical and are not Christian.

will start to fall. Let me give you some personal examples you can have in this society where Satan is just just abusing kids with gender confusion. You'll have a teenager who might come home and say, yeah, well, Mom, what do you know? You're a SIS woman. The first time you hear your teenagers say, you need to stop and say it. Wait, hold on a second, what does that mean? Sis? What does that mean?

What you're supposed to do is to go personally to the pastor and say, I'm pretty disturbed that was a political speech. You didn't contain the word of God at all. So are there signs like that that we can see in our churches that are their key words or key phrases, or is there a line of attack the enemies using those commonly to get pastors to spread lies.

call that exo Jesus. They're explaining the meaning of the text. But what you're describing in in this situation was what we would call is of Jesus. They're reading outside meaning into the text, and it sounds like in this case it's just like, well, I'm going to say Jesus a few times and sort of try to christianize, right, Yeah, And so for the guy in the pews, it's basically be aware of these godless ideologies that are out there.

Be aware of the godlessness of modern climate change ideology, the godlessness of modern gender ideology, the godlessness of modern race ideology, and in critical race theory, these kinds of things.

mockingbird media all the time, the propaganda of silence. Our media here is really loath to report on what Elon Musk did when he lit this flame in England by actually drawing attention back to this insane scandal of these gangs of Pakistani men going and sexually assaulting girls and grooming them and turning them out right, that he has lit this flightman, Now there's this outrage. The power of the mockingbird media here is to say, yeah, we're not

going to talk about that. They did this with the lies of transgenderism. Oh that's not happening. There's no sex at in the schools. They just ignored it. I think it's harder to look at a church body and observe that, wait, we're not going to talk about the definition of marriage. We're not going to revisit this. I mean, this is a big deal abortion. The left tried to make that a huge election issue, and we're not going to talk

about the sanctity of life. Do you think that's a harder challenge for people in the pews that they have to now observe the silence and then maybe go ask like, hey, why are we.

see it until it's too late. But a lot of churches let in the church members, let this go on, Let this go on and metastasize until it's too late, and now there's a church split or it's too late and now there's a sex scandal from the pulpit, and that entire time that man placed in that position was basically robbed of the benefits of having his fellow believers

hold him accountable. He needed that, and a lot of churches deny it to him because it's it's hard work challenging somebody, especially somebody who who everybody else sees as as the leader and they and they are they're supposed to be leading within that congregation. Challenging that person sometimes comes with a significant cost. I mean, and a lot of us that have done this kind of work, I mean,

we know we've paid that cost. Like our church is a Southern Baptist church, and I mean the Southern Baptist Convention, and the guys that run that won't pick up the phone for me, you know, like I'm I'm for son and on grata over there. But that's the price that sometimes has to be paid to be to be willing to challenge when it needs to happen, even though it's an exercise of love.

a church that turns out disciples. So imagine my shock when I hear Pastor Greer saying, yeah, we should use the fake pronouns and we should respect that. And I know the answer spiritually, it is the deceiver, the distort or Satan himself who's causing this. But how did the Southern Baptist Convention, I mean, how did people there not notice that they were going so far off the rails in so many ways?

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Protestia dot com and your corresponding Twitter channel. Pastor Andy Stanley compares Christians calling Democrats evil to well, let's see if y'all can guess.

I was going to put this on the screen, but there are things I should never put on a screen to have a picture taken because anyway, so you know what the messaging is now, this isn't in the corner. These are If I name the people who are saying these things, you've heard of most of them.

kind of build into a big empire. But Andy Stanley is in the category of what I would describe as seeker sensitive pastors seeker sensitive churches, which are churches that have basically designed themselves around appealing to unbelievers and lost people that come to visit the church. And not that there's anything wrong with evangelism or anything wrong with preaching the gospel, but that's actually not what church services are for.

So what ends up happening is the what should be worship of God, preaching of the Word of God, the gathering of of of Christians together becomes it it becomes degraded as they start to change things in their church to appeal to the to the sensibilities of people that.

was going to happen. They basically have had told parents how to to handle their their l g B t Q identifying children not by telling them what God says and what the Bible says, but by affirming their feelings and affirming these things. How to how to basically minister to your quote unquote gay children. That's that's been a big part of what they do. But you saw in that Andy Stanley clip, he didn't he didn't really deal

with the issue. He challenged the terms. This is a big problem not only in just our postmodern society, where people they don't actually talk about the idea in and of itself as strongly connected with the term. They deconstruct a term. So if someone says, you know, like, hey, democrats can't be Christian, well the next thing you should be asking is what do you mean by democrats and what do you mean by Christian? If you can really solidify those two things, now you can actually judge whether

that statement is true or not. So if someone like me says, well, you can't be a Democrat and a Christian, what I'm really saying is you can't be a democrat as defined by democrat ideology and politics and believe those things in any sort of consistency with being a Bible believing Christian. That believes what the Bible teaches about things.

Those two things are not compatible. Well Andy just throws that out the window, and he says, no democrat is just whatever somebody says it is if they say they're a democrat.

things are hard sometimes. Or saying no to a relationship that you shouldn't have, like, it's hard. So he fell and he then had this racked with guilt. I shouldn't be doing this. I know what the Bible says. I know what it says about sexuality. And then David he found a same sex attracted friendly church. And here's the pitch.

about af effects, they don't think about unintentional harm. Is it compassion and fair? So that really appeals to them? Well, that sounds very compassionate and fair and inspired by what you said defining our terms. Well, wait a minute, how do you define same sex attraction? Is it a feeling or an identity? And let's poke away at that a little bit. If someone is kleptomaniacal and they like to steal, is that their identity now? And where to sponsor that?

This is what they're this is where to sponsor that? What I see Andy Stanley doing there is is caring in fairness, compassion in fairness.

own strength. And if I can only explain it this way, then maybe they'll quit doing this that I know is sinful, but but be willing to pay the price for preaching the truth in love and patience, and and you know what the Bible will describe as long suffering. So for somebody, somebody who's struggling with same sex attraction, they know that it's wrong scripturally, they know what the Bible teaches. Our job is not to try try to win them over

by our own cunning and understanding. It's basically to say, this is what the Bible teaches. I love you, and because I love you, I'm not going to withhold this from you, and you might hate me for it. You Jesus said, I've come to divide father against son, you know, mother against daughter.

or he's. The way that this infiltrates well meaning churches, well meaning Christian households and things, is because they are unwilling to put their allegiance to God and his truth above the relationship.

or something. And because they are unwilling to, because they're really idolizing and loving their relationships more than they're loving God, they change, they compromise, they flip, and it's really tough. I don't even deny how tough that is when there's a there's a situation in our families and people that we love that are now being disobedient. But the question is do you love God and his truth more? And are you willing to be consistent with them? And like, no,

I can't go there. I'm not changing what I believe about this. Right, you need to repent, please, I'm baking you repent.

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the Bible. Okay, I knew I wasn't going to refer to her with male pronouns. I can't. I can choose to not use pronouns. My primary motivation there was to let me disappear for her to experience God's love through me. And so when I saw her and approached her, I screwed up because I couldn't remember the new name. She corrected me, I'm willing to use the name. That's her name. That's not a lie, that's her name. She's changed her name.

And after we'd spent some time together, something amazing happened. David, a homeless woman having a psychotic break drove up into the mountains, I think, to kill herself, and my family member found her and screamed for help, and I ran up the hill and she and I together partnered in helping this young girl. And then my sister came up a liberal nurse practitioner, a liberal, very progressive, very terrified

of Trump. And she and I then tended to that girl for the rest of the day, pretty much ignoring the family reunion because she needed it to be safe. Here's what happened is when I was leaving, I got an opportunity to walk up to this young woman who is gender confused, and I meant this, and this is what the Holy Spirit gave me is I came to her and said, I know you and I disagree in something fundamentally important to you. I know that, and you know that, but I want you to know I am

delighted to see you. Well, I love you, I'm very proud of the career building, and I want you to know that God has given you some great, great gifts. And her response emotionally not why I said it, but to see tears in her eyes and a recognition that you still love me, and a recognition of there's this thing you and I disagree on it and you know it. My primary goal was that she walked away with Wait, where was the hate filled Christian wishing me to hell?

That's what I mean by sharing the Gospel when not using words that wow, that old man family member. He actually read he does love me because I saw tears in his eyes. Does that make sense? That's what I'm talking about outloving them?

I'll give you the shirt off my back. I don't you know that what you believe or what you practice in this area, or those kinds of things, it has no impact on my desire to love view.

defined by their preferences. Love is not defined by their feelings.

I believe God placed her right there so that my younger family member would be the first to finder and scream for help, and I would be the second one there so that she could go, Wow, this old man, he's like tossing everything aside, freezing, giving this girl his coat as this like terrible spring snow is falling on him. And I'm not trying to take credit for it. I mean we're called to do that. I want to place one more video clip here.

forcibly physically fight back. And I want to talk about that trend. Let's watch this video together.

want to preach on it. And the reason is that it has traditionally gotten preached as a kind of a triumphalist victory over all our enemies, militaristic kind of thing, and I think a that has no relationship whatsoever with the notion of unconditional love that I believe is at the heart of the Gospel. And B Jesus would be utterly horrified to be worshiped in that kind of way. And see, that kind of militaristic has absolutely no place in church.

evangelical with a church conversation. And yeah, so this is this is a pastors as we like to call female pastors, a pastors at a at a very very radical I believe it was an evangelical Lutheran church, and that that denomination has been very left for a very long time.

It and and basically pushing this idea that if you say Christ is King, that's some sort of you know, dog whistle or something like that for some sort of militaristic, uh, you know, takeover countries and Christianize them kind of a thing. And well, yeah, I'm sure there's some people on the fringes that support that kind of idea. That the thing that I always pull from it is to want a Christian nation is not to say that we want a nation full of regenerate Christians.

as we desire to to a government. I mean that is my definition of a Christian nation is a nation that that operates itself in accordance with God's standards. And yeah, there's gonna be some there's gonna be some personal elements to that, right. I mean, our our system of governance is is is good for what for for a sound and moral people. It's it's it's wholly unfit for any other. That's a true thing.

you know, that's sinful behavior, you shouldn't do that. And I think that's that that's what they really That's what she's really taking the issue with this is like, what do you mean you're you mean you're gonna tell me that that's that that's simple and that's wrong, and that I can't be whatever gender I want and so on and so forth.

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But it's it's kind of a good just a real good resource and catching pastors up about Okay, how when when I'm hearing these things coming into the church, where I'm hearing the institutions I trust start pushing critical theory and start pushing uh, you know, racial ideology that that it's unbiblical, Where did it come from? How did it get here? Who are who are the proponents of this. It's a really good resource. For that reason, I told people like, don't go buy this book and bash your

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