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Hello and welcome to the TMZ Podcast! I'm Charlie Cutten. I'm Charlie Nath. And relationships, man. They can be tricky. Yes, they can! We got a few stories that are about kind of tricky relationships people are in. You heard of this girl, Brianna, chicken fry? Yep, has a podcast or dead. Well, she's on yet. She's part of Boston.
She's got a lot of mental sports and she used to be dating Zach Bryan. Pretty big country star. Massive! She's opening up about the relationship and... Come on for this time. She's torching him! She is. Kristen Cavallari. After claiming she's moved on from Marguestes, that's just the person she was seen out with in Nashville last night. Yeah, we actually got photos of them together and we'll tell you what they were doing together. And finally, Lamar Odom, he has found a new partner.
At the sex doll shop. Kind of Chloe. Chloe-esque. He wanted her to look like Chloe. Oh my god. Yeah, Lamar got a sex doll. To begin with though, Brianna, chicken fry. She's this influencer. She's got a podcast, BFFs, on Bastel Sports. She's Dave Portnoy's star right now because she just got out of her relationship with country star Zach Bryan. And she claims that Zach...
...wanted to pay her $12 million to sign an NDA so she wouldn't be able to shit-talk him. Speak on the relationship at all. Right, let's have a listen to some of what she had to say now. The last year of my life has been the hardest year of my life. Like, dealing with the abuse from this dude. Like, I'm still scared right now because I'm scared of him still. My brains rewired. Like, you made the women before me believe that they had no other choice than to take money from you.
Their experience is a way. Sign what they went through a way. You get to go skip off and sing your little fucking songs on stage like you're a good, good dude. I don't want in two years to buy a fucking house and think, oh, this is the money from the dude that literally fucking destroyed me and broke me for a year. Fuck that. Fuck you. I don't want your money. Wow. That's some hectic stuff right there.
And my big takeaway is, this is why you should never date an influencer. Wait, for him to date her? Yes. Because when you break up, she or he will just bring up... Tell her a side. Tell her a side slash. I think she might be exaggerating to the max to try to propel her career on the heels of this. And she's gonna use every secret she knows about this guy to help herself out.
But this is reason number one not to date an influencer. Yeah, but he doesn't have like a good track record of being like a good boyfriend. I am pretty sure like all his exes have like claimed like in fatality. And she didn't sign anything. She could speak. Yeah.
And tell her side of the story she can she can, but it just feels like this is the worst thing that ever happened to me destroyed me. I never knew your name and no one did before this. Why does she need to stay silent? She doesn't need to say silent, but I just think she's being this. I would hate to have an ex like go on and just like diss me like this much like you have no sort of. But it's also helping his career as well. I guess.
If you're if you listen to country music, you probably know who he is. But if you don't, you now know who he is. That's true. But I will say I do want to pick some holes apart in this because she claims she was offered a $12 million NDA and obviously an end the reason why celebrities want you to sign an NDA is so that if and when you guys break up, you cannot speak about them legally.
And they could sue you if you spoke out about them because you know, they don't want their reputation to be damaged. And usually with the NDA they'll offer some money like that's the incentive for you to sign it to be totally honest with you. I know a handful of girls that have signed NDAs with massive rich celebrities way richer than Zach Brian will ever be right.
And there is I've never heard of a $12 million NDA usually NDAs are like they offer you like 40 to 60,000 like it's not as much as people try to make it out to be. So I do not believe that part. I but she does say like, oh, there was assets like a house and all this. Maybe, maybe he offered a house but $12 million. No way. So if you're not if you're not believing that wrinkle, then why are you believing the rest of it because well, I mean, she could be hurt after a break.
Yeah, I'm sure she's hurt, but she is exaggerate. She's got to be exaggerating the $12 million. She's got to be exaggerating everything else. They dated for one year. It's not like they were married for 10 years and then he did all the biggest headline to come out of her discussing the relationship is that he got mad that she's sung Morgan Wallon around the house. That if that is the big anecdote that he wanted kept quiet, I'm going to pay you $12 million. So you don't say like not buying it.
Yeah, I'm not buying that. That's like us getting in trouble over here talking about like the New York Post or like whatever competitor. Yeah, he got really mad. She sung. She was singing last night, let the liquor talk or whatever like it. Yeah, he got mad. Don't sing his song around me. That's funny. He also got mad because allegedly allegedly that she liked the song stick season too much.
I want to buy Noah Khan. So these are like funny details, but it doesn't like I wouldn't pay $12 million to keep that quiet. But everything else she's saying is that like scared of him. She's scared. She didn't break up with him though. So it's like kind of confusing to me. Yeah, I mean, it makes little sense. It isn't a tiny look. Everybody has their own way of getting over a breakup and usually it starts with like you're in shock. You're crying. And that we kind of saw that from her.
But then eventually it turns into anger and we're seeing that stage where she is just angry. She's, you know, picking cherry picking all the little things in their relationship where she could like, you know, potentially slam him hurt his feelings, etc. I do think it's interesting. He hasn't spoken in a way. It kind of does feel like the high road speaking. I think so.
Even though do I think he's a great guy. I don't know. I have no idea. Probably not. Probably not. But him not speaking when all this yuck and muck is happening. I think it actually kind of looks good. If you if you date for a year and break up, then there's probably going to be some bad feelings. Like no matter what the relationship is.
So I mean, I just think like of course she's got to bring up all the dirt because that's kind of her job and they're making hay while the sun shines Dave Portnoy put out a diss track about Zach Brian now. And it's been taken down and that sort of stuff. But he's talking about, you know, this guy's prior sort of infidelity that he's, you know,
just all things about this guy that he wants to see him behind bars. Okay, that's a stretch. But I will say to in a way when you're invested in like an influencer or celebrity couple, right? Like let's say I don't want to use them as a couple because I don't want to do except like Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani. You follow follow their romance. You love them together.
And then when a couple that you love and we're so invested in breaks up and they're just like we've gone our separate ways. It's like no, no, no, we've been invested for X amount of years. Why did you guys break up? Tell us why I know you want that. But you know, I just think it's poor form to diss someone you once loved, you know, in such a public way.
Like you did love that person. You have issues with them at that time. Why do you want to ruin that? Like I've never had a breakup so bad that I wanted to ruin their life. Oh, I have. It's just girls, man. I'm sorry to sound a little. I'm sorry. There's some sensitive me guys out there.
The guys want to ruin an ex girlfriend's life as much as a ex girlfriend wants to ruin his life. I guess guys love torture. They love torture. They love to be tortured. And then when they're tortured, they are their mad. They're out for blood. Have you heard that? Is it Shakespeare or something like that? Hell, half no fury like a woman scorned. Yeah, was that Shakespeare? I think it might have been the word half. Sound Shakespeareian. I mean, it might be the smartest thing Shakespeare ever say.
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Kristen Cavallari, there's a Cavallari. It rhymes with Vary. Kristen Cavallari, she was hanging out in Nashville with her ex, Mark Estes. Mark Estes, he's an influencer too actually. Yeah, but he hasn't spoken at all. I think he signs an NDA. I think he's. Maybe not 12 million. We would know if he had a 12 million. That's right because I swore him an LAX like a week or two ago.
He didn't speak to you and he didn't say a word really. And usually, you know, it's giving it's giving NDA because what's good for him? Maybe he got like 10k out of it. Right. And influences more than anyone want to talk because they want their influence ability to go up. Right.
Anyway, Mark Estes and Kristen Cavallari was seen out in Nashville two months after they broke up. She had recently said she's the next guy she dates needs to have a vasectomy. Yeah. So, assumedly 23 year old Mark Estes doesn't. Right. Remember, he wanted like kids. He talked about wanting a family with her and she was like, oh, no, I've already got three kids. Like this guy's and she even said like the age thing played a factor into their breakup because he's 24. She's my age 37.
They claimed they just ran into each other. Does that happen? You just run into your ex at a bar and there's no way. There's no way. There's no way. But here's the thing. They were at Kid Rocks bar. And I guess Kristen and Mark when they were together, they did go to the bars on Broadway. Like that, that was their thing.
But I mean, to run into each other, I don't know. I do feel like it's like saying like, oh, I ran into so and so and time square. Like, no, you did not. No way. And for them to take photos together. Yeah, they looked pretty happy. And she had just dissed him. Like you said, she said that for her next relationship, she was not going to be dating anyone that slid into her DMs. Okay, diss number one because Mark slid into her DM.
Is that a diss? A little bit. She's saying the next guy I'm dating is not you. Okay. Yes. Yes. But maybe they just bang in because like the possible she liked she liked the Chaka Chaka. She loved the
Chaka and just looking at them together. Like, there's no other wall. I prefer to be a fly on. Yeah, then their bedroom. Like, I can't imagine you like in the corner being like watching every. Oh, man, the fly has all those eyes like perfect viewing. I hated that movie of the fly growing up. It gave me nightmare. Is that Jeff Goblin? Yes, it is. I'd be a fly on his sex wall too.
What the hell? I mean, he is a little sexy. I don't know if I want to watch him have sex, but I would. I can't. This is X rated. Okay. Let's do our next one. Our final story of the day. Oh, God, another X rated story. This is X rated episode. I know what is happening. TMZ after dark. Oh, I like that. I like that. We should do something. But it's so early. It's like. I know before dawn. Right. That's really what we're doing. I know it's like late late.
So late it's early morning. Yeah. Okay. Go on. Okay. So Lamar Oden. He bought himself a custom sex doll. There's no other way to chop this up. So apparently what I was told, because this was actually a story I worked on. I don't know what I'm doing with my life, my career. But, um, so I was told that about a month ago, Lamar Oden was online. He saw a story. Actually, TMZ story. Talking about a sex doll. Oh, you're welcome. I know. And he was like, I got to get me one of those. Okay.
He thought it was like maybe a joke, but he was like dead serious. So he reached out to this company that does like famous sex dolls. Like, it's called real dolls in Las Vegas. And so he reached out to them. They said, hey, next time you're in Vegas, because they're factories in Vegas, you come by. We're going to show you all the goods. You can customize these things. That's awesome.
Like, you literally can go in. And this is what he did because he was in Vegas this week for his birthday. He went in on Tuesday to the factory. We have photos and videos on the site, you know, tread lightly when we're going to customize everything for you.
Your dream girl. And he said, okay, I already know what I want the body to look like. I want it to be volumptuous. And then he goes and they're like, well, the face, you know, we can do different hair, different nose. I color, you know, all the things. And he said, I want it to look like my ex wife, Chloe Kardashian. Wow. That's kind of gross. Is it gross? I don't think it's flattering. Would Chloe enjoy? I don't think Chloe is going to like this. It's weird.
Does he still have feelings for her? I mean, feelings in his heart, not feelings in his family. Yeah, you know, since they've been broken up and obviously they broke up because he had like an addiction. He remember, he like almost died when he was at the bunny ranch. Well, that's what I want to talk about. That's what I want to talk about because on the face of it, this is a funny story. But when you delve deeper, I think it's a concerning story. You think it's sad.
It's more than sad. I think it's concerning. Lamar has been very public in the past about his sex addiction. Yeah. His sex addiction that led him to the bunny ranch. Not far away. But also wasn't it like drug fueled too. It was it was drug fueled, I believe, but also part of his issue was like that night that he quote unquote died of being revived. He was taking all of these sex enhancement pills. He what he tells the story like there was these two girls.
There was 24 hours. I took these sex addiction pills and I ended up in the hospital. He claims with 12 strokes and six heart attacks pronounced dead twice. You know who was by his side Chloe. Yeah. So he's got a sex addiction. And I mean, I was just talking to a male co-worker about this. I'm sorry. Are you revealing Devon has a sex addiction? Why would you go to him? I was talking about sex addiction with Devon and he's like what a weird conversation for a 6 a.m. like work meeting.
Well, I mean, we're having the same conversation now, Charlie. So yeah, but it feels a little bit more controlled. That seems like a controlled environment. Well, Devon's like there's no issue with sex addiction. Like, great. Of course, Devon said that. But I'm like addiction to anything is bad. Yes, agreed. If you're an addictive person, you'll find different things. It could be like addicted to texting. Right.
So this is not some guy who his sex addiction in part is what led to his demise and death before being revived. So here he is. Not far from that bunny ranch buying a doll that looks like his ex wife. So he can bang her forever or like I think it's like it on the face of if this was any other celebrity, I'd laugh more. Yeah. And I still love him even though, but like he's actually going to use this thing. Well, of course, why wouldn't you? Would you 100% okay? So do you have a sex addiction?
No, but like every guy would be a sex doll. But your point is is that he's so crazed about getting in the bedroom that he'll just take anything. But then you'll take anything. Yeah, but I don't have a sex addiction. That's the distinct difference. Yeah, I mean, I don't have the sort of like capacity to have a sex addiction. You know what I mean? Like you wouldn't be a real doll's factory in Vegas picking out your parts.
If they gave me one for free, I mean, I'm a married man. So I'd have to hide it somewhere. I thought just prop up. Oh, hey, Aaron, my wife. Here's Gina. Gina's just going to sit here in the corner. She'd sleep between us in bed. By the way, they weigh like 140 pounds. It's like the weight of a real person. And the skin apparently the boobs like in our photos and videos, he's feeling the boobs. And they say in the video, they feel real stop it, Charlie. Stop it, Charlie. Just kidding me.
Oh, am I allowed to say that? I don't know. This episode has gone off the wall here. All right. Let's reunite with you guys still with us out there. A few people are. Okay. Like we're getting some comments. Some comments. Okay. Let's go. Vicki Kimball about Brianna chicken fried. Tell it all girlfriend to save the next one for him from his abuse. I kind of like that. I do like the idea of paying it forward and warning women about your acts.
But the irony is, I think she is warning men about her. Would you date her next? I don't know. You're the man. Would you? No. Why? Because she's just chatting too much because whatever happens in your relationship, she will sing it from the rooftop. I feel like if you, if it was the hottest woman in the world, like your go to girl, who's your go to girl celebrity? My wife. Okay. Well, yes, your wife is absolutely beautiful.
Who's my go to girl? Like celebrity wise. Obviously, it's not happening right? Aaron, sorry, I'm not disrespecting you. But let's just say maybe you love Emily Radikowski. She's fine. Okay. If Emily Radikowski came to you and was like, and you knew she had black trashed her ex, and she was like, I would do anything to be with you. To be honest, you would just be like, forget about that. No, I don't think so, actually. Okay.
It wouldn't be worth sort of like, you know, two minutes of fun for like the rest of my life. To be like, she's gone. Everyone's got a pal. No, it'd be embarrassing. She's like, because you say stuff about me. I don't want out there. I want to know. I can't wait. No, you know what? I don't want to wish any divorce on you guys. But I would love to hear Aaron's story. Only good things to say. M.M says in infidelity is one thing, but abuse is another.
Correct. Rich people's problems says Justin Harris. I wish I could pay someone to leave me alone. Sarah says on Lamar Odom to me, it would be like having sex with an unwilling partner. It's a little weird. I understand what Sarah's coming from me too. But I mean, that's why they need to invent these sex robots. Like they go, yes, Charlie, would you like me to stick it there? Ew, what's the heck? I'm sorry. I feel like I am able to get an actual person. I don't need robot, damn the robot.
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