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This is another episode of the Tim Ferris show, and it is also another episode of the random show with my first ever podcast guest and my perpetual front. Bestie numero uno, Kevin Rose. Worse, we're show ever, but we did it. You got to start with the rough draft. You got to start with the rough draft. You had them just list of questions. You asked me what my favourite cereal was or some shit like that. I was like, Tim, you should not ask your guess that. You're like, oh, it's one of those shows.
And I was like, oh my god, I thought this was going to be a layup with kid gloves, but Kevin's busted my balls and episode one. But it was good. We got a little ham to that one, but it was fun. Got a little ham. Speaking of ham, what do you have over there? I don't think I have a drink. Yeah, cheers to you. Let this be known to the audience and to the world that this was the first time I didn't want to drink and Tim pressured me into drinking. I'm like, I see the other round. I'm fresh for you.
All right, just to replay the tape here. I said, do you have a drink? And you're like, no. And I was like, but I have a drink. You're the one who's always busted my balls about having a drink. It's a three-pm and I said, but it's a Friday. And you're like, you don't really need to say Friday. You're like, you're gonna drink drinks and then you walked off and got a drink. So I wouldn't say, I'm not sure if pressure. It wasn't really twisting and arm was it?
It was more just like a slight change of wind. It was like a fingertip to the lips kind of. Yeah, exactly. Say no more. Say no more. Sleep. Go get a beverage. So we have a lot to talk about. It seems like you got a big list. I have a big list. Yeah. What do you drink? By the way, we didn't talk about that. Oh, yeah. What do you have? Well, what do you have? I just have a Shady Champagne. Oh, okay. Yeah. This is, I'm gonna have to pronounce this because I don't speak French.
Much like you might say, Versailles, Kentucky. There is a Versailles, Kentucky. This is French. I don't speak French, but you got this. It's a Bandole B.A.N.D.O.L. Appalachian Bandole Controle 2021. Then there's Domain, Tampa Air at the top. And then this. Love that domain. This. This. Domainy. Domainy Tampa Air. It was recommended to me actually bought for me by a friend. I'll call him Jay, not to dock some. He's not Jay-Z. But good friend of mine. And it's fantastic. It's really nice.
I put some ice in it just to be a heathen and to harken back to the days of old when I was in Argentina where they drink a lot of wine with ice. And I got into it. And cheers, Kevin. Cheers. Actually, I've been doing ice in my wine as well. Dario's been giving me shit about it. My wife. And I said, you know what? It's hydrating at the same time. Get a little extra water in there. And that was my rationale.
That said, I don't know if you looked up the price of that bottle, but you might be doing it a severe disservice by adding cubes to it. I don't know if it's an inexpensive bottle or because sometimes that can be a big faux pas. You know, I'm okay. I'm like a $400 bottle. You're splitting a big cubes of ice. My whole life is just a series of faux pas. My, uh, woe, that be a fowxed pouse? Fowxed pouse. Well, you know, okay, this is very unclear. It says price, $25.47 to $672.
Oh, it's somewhere in that range. I don't know. It looks like $55. Okay. I do think it may be somewhat challenging to get, but it's not an over the top. At the end of the day, if you're enjoying it with some ice, like Godspeed, right? You know, yeah, we could go on a whole white page. Speaking of Godspeed, let's speak of Godspeed. Can I start with my first thing to talk about? Oh, I can't wait to see this segue. Yes, please. Okay. So we got a lot to talk about.
One of the things that I would say we are known for at the random show is just random shit. And it's like, okay, we don't see each other for three or four months. What have we stumbled into that stupid, that's fun, that's creative, that's whatever, fill in the blank. And it's all kinds of stuff.
One of the things that you're quite good at, Tim, that I really enjoy as part of the random show that we do, is you're always talking about how can I get the most value and satisfaction out of something that is low dollar value? Meaning like, how you typically phrase it? Yeah, like affordable luxuries. Like how can you affordable luxuries? Something like that, right? Right. Right. That's right.
So there is a, the most, I would argue outside of like a standard Rolex day date, the most popular watch in the world for watch nerds, I'd say probably recognizable watch would be the speed master, which is the watch that was worn to the moon. And it's an Omega speed master. The original caliber that went to the moon, I think it was a 321, gets really geeky.
The very first speed master that you can buy, like the first very release is, you know, now worth hundreds of thousands of dollars for a representation of speed master. Modern day speed masters from Omega, you can still buy them. They are, you know, let's call it, I had to check the price, but let's call it three and a half, four thousand dollars, somewhere around there, maybe you had touched more, I haven't looked in a while. That said, they did a collaboration, Omega did with swatch.
And at first glance, you think like a swatch, like there's no way, like I, what, why would I want? But the actual collaboration looks amazing. Like it looks just like the speed master. It looks identical. Mine is the band. It's identical. Right. Exactly. Right. It's super, super similar. It's got the chronograph, it's made out of the ceramic that is super durable. They just crushed it and they made them in a whole variety of different colors.
And they put a different plan at the bottom of each one. So this one is Saturn right here, this brown version. They're impossible to get and you have to buy them in the store. You can get them on eBay, but if you go into the stores, they actually have a limit to supply the kind of dough out each day. What's the price range or the cost? 250 or $290, something like that. So definitely cheaper than a hundred thousand dollars and cheaper than five thousand dollars.
And you get the exact look of the speed master. And it's such a fun watch. And it's an iconic, it's a super iconic watch. Yeah. So if you're like always been speed master curious or want to have one of the most iconic looks in terms of watches. No, I'm serious. Well, that's why I went from Godspeed to here. You can see the jump. I see it. It's it's it's just a cool watch. And you got to see a different color, man. So they call it the moon swatch instead of the moon watch.
So it's the moon swatch from speed master and swatch collaboration. Yeah, just always trying to find something that is, you know, holidays are not that far off. If you have a watch lover or someone in your life that you want to do a gift to, great gifts as well. So it's kind of fun. And for folks who may not know also, the swatch group is the world's largest watch company. Employees about 36,000 people in 50 countries. They own a whole line of different brands, including Omega.
Yes. That's why this happened. Yeah, exactly. So there you go. And you have to imagine that people are mega or pissed. I just knowing so much about this industry. They might. They might have been like, we decline your suggestion. And then the paracupinate was like, no, this isn't a suggestion. Right. This is what we're doing. Exactly. This is actually happening. And I will say that, and you know this, I don't generally wear an eye. Generally wear any kind of jewelry or watches or anything.
Very, very little adornment. But I was gifted as a very beautiful, thoughtful gift, a speed master by a friend of mine. And it is a very, it feels good to wear this watch. And also if you want to, it's kind of like guys who have really good mustache or beard game. Like they think the women are going to be into it. And then they get constantly get compliments from guys. And that will also happen if you're wearing one of these things. Oh, 100%.
And the fact that you can get that swatch for those people who are not watching the video, that collaboration, it looks just like the speedy pro. I mean, it really does. Well, one thing that is worth mentioning there on this watch that for those that want to know kind of like the two second geeky backstory is that Neil Armstrong not only wore this watch to the moon, but used the chronograph feature to time. The propulsion and jet releases to land on the moon.
Talk about that he had to use a device like there was in computers to do this on mechanical device. A mechanical device on his wrist. And so this that's why this watch is like legit. It's a real true utilitarian like awesome tool. So it's pretty awesome. Yeah, you can imagine if there were some wrist bound computer used for like the first human landing on another planet. Yeah. And then that was made available in limited supply for civilians to buy what that would hold in terms of meaning.
Did you hear about the sealed first iPhone went for over $100,000 at auction? No, I did not. Yeah. And that was just a few years ago. That's wild. I didn't say that. Now, you mentioned one thing though. I'm curious about you said you can't find it on eBay. How does a company pull that off? I'm sorry, you can find it on eBay. Oh, you can. Yeah, that is the place you have to either go in store like to an actual swatch store or on eBay. There's only two things I got it.
You can get it used or if you want it new, you have to go to the store. Right. That you can't go to swatch.com and buy it directly from the side. They won't ship it to you. What else you got? I got a lot. Yeah, yeah. Bring another one on and then I'll I'll choose an appropriate transition from. I'll bring a quickie. And then I've got some really hard hitters after that. The quickie is that I'm relaunching my podcast. I just wanted to keep saying it. I'm relaunching my podcast.
I'm actually doing it and getting back in the game. Which podcast are we talking about? So I had the Kevin Roe show from back in the day. I shut it down for maybe it's been about a year and a half, two years ago. And I've missed it. I missed a lot of kind of what I was doing there. But also I want to kind of modify it in a few different ways. Now this is separate from unless I'm already I've had a third or a glass of wine. So maybe I'm just hallucinating already.
But foundation, the foundation and Kevin Roe show kind of merge into one. So it's still one feed because foundation was all about interview entrepreneurs. Talking about their entrepreneurial kind of journey, trials, tribulations, things of that nature. Speaking about other planets, you did have Elon on at one point. Yes, back in the day.
Yeah, so that's actually what kind of one I want to get back to where when I think about some of the value that I was in the game, some of the value that I was able to add to my listeners, it was around and something that I think I've personally been good at is identifying trends early on and talking about them before anyone else. Yeah, you are just to underscore that you are undeniably one of the best in the world. I've ever seen that. I appreciate that. It's true.
I've seen it over and over and over and over and over again. It's funny. It's incredible. Someone has a clip of me mentioning Ethereum for the first time on your show. Have you seen that? Yeah, absolutely. And we did a random show. It was like 1985. It was way back in my heart. I'm like, let me take a look at this in the ecosystem. Totally. Yeah. So getting back to that, like just really wanting to highlight and expose people to that early beta. Beta, I think of like early software, right?
And so the tentative working title is called beta, but it's going to be like showing off things as early as possible that have potentially a lot of upside for the users. So advancements and AI, you know, when I had Elon on the show back in the day, Tesla stock was $1.90. I looked up the price of when he actually came on the show. Holy shit. Which is crazy. So, you know, it's going to be a variety of shows. It's going to cover tech, investing, you know, health.
And then I think also important to throw in there is this kind of mental work life balance that is so important to me these days where yes, investing is great. Yes, making money is great, but it's not going to bring you happiness. Unless you can figure out the shit in your head. So just making sure that's a component to it as well.
So anyway, don't have anything to announce, but I would tell people if by the time this show comes out, if you just go to KevinRose.com, you'll see a link to the podcast there. Oh, fun. And I'm the fire back up. Do you have any teasers for likely or possible guests? Could be names. Could be just profiles. I'm going to go, it's a great question. I had sent Elon an email a while ago and he said he had a lot of fun on my first show and was game to do it again.
That was a while ago, but I got to go and hit him back up. I definitely want to have Elon back on. That's going to be a good one. But I would say, you know, it's going to just three or four, but nobody is confirmed. I really want to kick it off with a good banger to begin. So TBD. TBD. Well, let me tell you about something exciting on my side, which is really just celebration at this point of enthusiasm for me. It's not a launch or anything like that at this point, but you don't know about this.
Nobody knows about this, really, which is I recently, last week, did a, I guess it was a four day creative sprint in the middle of nowhere at this rustic retreat. With two writers and three concept artists who are some of the best in the world who have done some of the best known work for D&D for magic, the gathering and be worked on cockpunch stuff. Believe it or not, we actually spent that entire time coming up with scenarios, characters, adventures, concept sketches, artwork.
I don't want to spoil the surprise. I made some significant tweaks to the nature of that realm that I think are very, very, very compelling and got tons and tons of artwork and it's spectacular. Some of the work is just outrageously, outrageously good. What these guys can do in a handful of hours, it boggles my mind. It is just beyond my comprehension. As if from the writing perspective, if someone sat down and like in three hours, they just banged out 3000 perfect words.
How is that humanly possible? I saw that with these artists. They were so well oiled, so professional and also had very different styles, which was super fun. I could watch them also feeding off one another, even though they were working on different aspects, different greater houses and so on. For me, part of the celebration is realizing that even though it was my first go around my first rodeo and I didn't quite know what I was doing.
Of course, it was an experiment in collaboration because I've been such a solo act. I've been such a soloist when it comes to large creative projects, having an opportunity to work with, say, not just one 3D artists, which I did Walter for say the initial three dimensional 3D blender character designs. But to work with an entire group and to see if I can actually interact or co-manage that process in some way was very reassuring. I think I can do it.
I think that even if I'm not putting pen to paper or stylus to metabolite in some fashion, I think the past that I have, and the experience that I have with Lionart and more recently with painting and so on, really helps me to give better feedback to artists and to notice details. I'm very excited about it. There's a few things I want to comment on here. One, it's awesome to see and it's so apparent to me now that you launch this as an NFT project. And if these are having a bad time right now.
Yes, it's definitely one way to put it. It's a bloody market out there. All the proceeds went to nonprofit. Yeah, royalties are dead. So I do that you're making any further for the money on this via NFTs is is not the case basically zero. And so you're you're doing this for the love of the game, which I love to see, which is awesome. And the second and more important thing having known you for a long, long time is I've never seen you.
I've seen you struggle with giving up a little bit of creative control, right? Delegation, I'll give you some old temp fair stories. Every time Tim would write a new book. I'd be like, do Tim, let me get a little early copy. Let me get a little chapter. Let me see what you're working on. What do you, what do you, hacks you doing? What? You wouldn't share that shit with anybody.
Do you like so secretive? You like, how do I encrypt my hard drive? Like you would like try and lock down all your shit. But to see you move into this world of more creative director is awesome. Is that been a challenge for you? Am I am I articulating that correctly? You are. Yeah, you're definitely articulated correctly.
I mean, I think as we were talking about before we started recording, like we both have maybe daddy trust issues or whatever that we've needed to work through on a lot of fronts. And it's definitely the case that that's true. I will say that there are a few decisions that were super key in facilitating sort of lubricating, if you will. The possibility of me being a acting in a more creative director role.
The first was and it's easy to miss the importance of this with the absurdity of the name of the project. Cockpunch, the legend of cockpunch. People should check out the trailer at the very least. It's so good. Some amazing voice actors involved. And the key there by using that name, this was very deliberate. And by pursuing it the way I pursued it and also giving the funds to the size of a foundation, my foundation, S-A-I-S-E-I foundation.
Or for people who want to see the project, something involved with. What that did is it basically made fixating on money kind of silly in the sense that it doesn't go to my pocket. It's going to the foundation, which is important. But it's not going to directly improve the quality of my life in any way. Secondly, the fact that it was given such an absurd slash hilarious title allowed me not to take it too seriously or be too precious or protective of it.
And that is what opened the door to this collaboration. My hope is that by testing this with something like cockpunch that I will then be able to translate it to things that I might be inclined anymore protective with. And there have been so many benefits to this. And I'll name a few or I'll at least lead with one, which is the energy that this is generated has been unbelievable.
It's been like a power plant for everything else that I'm doing. So it's charging my batteries so effectively that I've been able to engage much more potently with everything else. And this is creative energy kind of this from the creativity of it all creative energy creative energy. So for instance, I mean the sort of admin paper cutie stuff that is so easy to come to as a sort of death by a thousand paper cuts like you need to do your taxes.
There are things you need to do that you don't really want to do that. Deplete at least in my case kind of deplete my batteries and if you don't have something on the other side of the ledger to recharge those batteries.
And end up being really fatigued you just don't have extra calories to allocate to a lot of things and this silly project which has achieved a lot of serious things right me like millions of dollars have gone to the foundation or at least two million bucks and there's more that's going to go some going to be soon I'll be donating all the secondary
quality revenue also to the foundation. I mean it's done a lot of good in terms of supporting early stage science at all sorts of top universities and journalism fellowships that you see Berkeley and so on. But check this out this will be another connection and that is I literally and we'll see if I can keep this in or not.
I need to talk to the other person is good. Yeah, I just signed my first ever writing collaboration agreement to work on my first book in six years with another person I've never done that before my life. And like that's my baby is this fiction is this going to be this is nonfiction it'll be sort of old school Tim Ferris in a sense because it'll be what I'm probably best at most known for. But it will be done with the hour to the week. Inflation baby inflation. It's a hours.
Is not going to be five hour work week. It's funny to release that people will be like oh shit if you're not something new and it'd be like that seller. Of course, through four hours all about work and the fifth hours all about pleasure here we go. Exactly. Epicurian 2.0. So I am beyond excited about this because this is now right segue from cutting my teeth on some collaboration with this thing called cock punch.
But now I've segwayed to my actual. Bailey wick right down the middle with hardcore nonfiction super tactical nonfiction and I'm going to work with someone else and I don't think there's any chance I would have been able to do that had I not. Deliberately created something that I didn't feel too protective or precious about yeah so I'm fucking stoked man I'm really excited. Let me ask you a question how do you decide to as a general tip for the audience out there.
How and when do you decide to outsource things to other people that you would consider to be representative of yourself or your brand or in some way could be potentially damaging like I think about this has been a hard one for me because anytime an app ships or anytime
anything happens that is associated with a company that I have started if there's something breaks or it's not done the correct way that's always like okay and why didn't you catch this ball blah and I'm like I get that's what other people said you or that's what you say to you both right so they say somehow
think I'm doing everything right and so they'll be like possible you didn't catch this I'm like I didn't see it for one out you know and so I'm wondering I'm wondering when you because your brand is so important to be able to protect who has final edit on your podcast like how did you trust them with that right because like totally this is a great you have to listen to every single
podcast you ever did in great detail and we've never talked about this this is fun I've never talked about this probably so I am slow to give up the reins I'm very slow and I'm slow to trust in general as you know and there's some upside to that there's also a bunch of
but love it or hate it that is where we are I'm very hyper vigilant in that way in the case of the podcast first step after each podcast is recorded before I even send my edit notes or anything like that is the podcast is transcribed and there are some great tools out there that can interact with transcripts that we have also tested and used in the past like descript we use right which is really helpful for people who don't know it allows you to say strip out all the ums and a's and filler words
automatically and you make text edits that then get translated into audio edits it's very interesting I also use professional sound editors and so on but step one for all of that is getting the audio transcribed so we get the audio transcribed and at this point I have something like 700 episodes close to 700 episodes which for those who are wondering is pretty crazy next April next April is going to be 10 years of the podcast can you fucking believe that's crazy years 1.4 episodes on average per
week for 10 years damn did you have hair when we started that can you remember I don't think I probably had a little more hair probably looks like my beard right now so it wasn't much I wasn't going to be on any of those poster boards where they show all the haircuts that are possible at the barberds very old school right with a flat top I want that one I wouldn't have been on any of those but I probably had a little more hair I was probably faking it I was I think I was probably at the last
the 11th hour of my white knuckling I probably had some cheesy foe hawk because that's all that was left in us trying to cover ball spots something like that in any case the point I was going to make is that my current general manager of the podcast who's really the COO of editorial has been working for me for seven or eight years we've been working together a long time over that period of time we've now done a few hundred episodes together minimum and I started with
making edits myself in a Google doc and then we would go back and forth and over time I got to the point where I would ask him to suggest edits and then I would go through and provide refinements and feedback and I am at the point now where we probably have 95% overlap which is good enough and I therefore feel very comfortable with letting him make the vast majority of decisions how long that take you so that
was a year at least at least a year because you're really training someone to do two things one is to understand how you think well enough my decision making process so that they can step into the shoes or into the mind of Tim Ferriss to look at a transcript the second is to be the best version of
their editorial selves for using judgment and it's the combination that works really well so I would say it took me probably in his case his responsibilities expanded dramatically as we work together over time but I would say since he has effectively run the operation side of the podcast probably took a year and a half to two years is what I would say and I think it can be done much more quickly for people who really focus on it and who don't have the trust issues that I have if you have a high
enough volume of podcasts which I have directly throttled I used to do say at times six seven episodes a month because you have all of these other interview based podcasts that are doing four or five week and I felt like that was a trend that I should not a trend I should follow but that was certainly in my economic best interest to publish more episodes and people were consuming them but I started to drag
my feet and realized it was starting to feel like a J.O.B. in the sense that I really was not looking forward to my conversations after the fourth or fifth or six of a month so I dialed back deliberately so that I would still enjoy what I was doing what that meant though is that you're getting fewer iterations or you're getting fewer at bat practices with the person you're trying to train to be a world class editor
and I think you could do it if you had decent volume you could probably do it three months especially for instance one thing that I could have done I just didn't think of it and I didn't have really the bandwidth I'm just juggling a lot and it wasn't my absolute top priority you don't have to use new audio I could have said let's take the raw audio from 20 episodes that were published before or if you have a friend who's a podcaster you could have said give me 20 of your episodes and then
have him run through it and then I would run through it and boom before you know it if the person is reasonably adaptive and perceptive they'll figure it out so I would say three to six months but I'm at a point now where it's at least 95% overlap and if there's something that's very nuanced
that I feel strongly about I will still make that edit myself and some of it is really really really really really nuanced let's just say a guest gives a long answer in the middle of that answer they say something that's factually incorrect and for my audience and also for the guests themselves
I want to remove that but if I remove it perhaps that removes a bunch of important context so I may need to take something from elsewhere in the conversation and slot it in or create a hybrid sort of Frankenstein for it to make sense or ask them to do a pickup meaning record additional audio
to slot in somewhere that is at a level of complexity and also like Tim Ferriss subjective whim that I will often step in to try to make some of those decisions but my right hand makes a lot of the decisions on his own now and it's incredible so that's been the process and there is I will say to you put out a really good finished episode oftentimes there is a fuck ton of work that happens behind the scenes that if we do our jobs correctly are completely invisible
right yeah yeah yeah for me it's a obviously different can of worms and running a startup in a business but I think of it kind of through this lens where one 100% not even taking shortcuts when it comes to hiring absolute a plus players or what you believe to be a plus players from day one I really when I was working at Google and you walk in the door and you get to see who you're surrounded who your peers are it's very apparent that there's a reason why their hiring process is so long
and so a little bit tedious but just it's quite the complex several hurdles that you have to get over before you actually get in the door and I understand why those hurdles are so high now because once you get in they give you the kind of the keys the castle and say just go run make mistakes learn
and they trust you a lot and so for me once we have you know I know I have high quality talent to work with it comes down to if this were to go completely sideways how big of screw up would it be publicly into our community and if the answer is a six or above I probably want to give it a little bit more hands-on attention and if the answer is like an eight or above then I want to be heavily involved in that process if it's a kind of five or below who cares like let them make the mistake
because you just don't have time to look at everything not only that but you don't want your employees and look I think you're better at this my managing side yeah exactly exactly right it's like you don't want them to feel like you're the teacher looking over their shoulder to like point out every mistake they make as they're working which has been hard for me to learn honestly because I am such a perfectionist I don't know if I told you this
did I tell you that I was diagnosed with moderate severe OCD by a psychiatrist did I tell you this no holy shit that all makes sense now what was funny is that I went through this long thing and then the psychiatrist was like okay
I feel like I have a very confident read on our current state of play in the diagnosis and he tells me all this and he says we're on zoom and he's like I understand this could be a lot to take in if you need time we can take a break if you want to hop off the call oh Jesus tomorrow and I was like are you fucking kidding me I'm not surprised at all yeah okay fine like what's next that's fine dude it's so funny you say that I've got an awesome new therapist that I'm really enjoying
she's amazing and she's like I want to refer you to someone because I what you're describing sounds like ADHD and I'm like yeah no shit big surprise you know like shocker yeah shocker it's really happened a week ago yeah I reached out to a couple of my ex-girlfriends who I'm friendly with and I ask them I was like does this like square with your experience and they're like yeah yeah it's so funny yeah it's good yeah it's good yeah it's like yeah okay confirmed
and this was in just to provide the context this was in the context of trying to determine neuro anatomical targets for something referred to as accelerated TMS which I'm hoping to talk quite a bit more about but I don't feel comfortable yet
making any type of recommendation but it is a new protocol with a very I shouldn't say very old but like 1980s-ish forward developing technology trans cranial magnetic stimulation so it's brain stimulation for the purposes of minimizing or eliminating the symptoms of certain things
like OCD depression generalized or maybe it's just general anxiety sort of things generalized anxiety sort of GAD and I've become very interested in this because there are data related to something that's been called the saint protocol
I think that had too many religious overtones so they abbreviated to I think maybe SNT it's a Stanford based brain stimulation lab there's some incredible scientists involved including Nolan Williams who's incredibly impressive to me who have developed this protocol
and the magnitude of effect that I have seen in some of the data this does not apply to all people this does not apply to all conditions but shows a magnitude of effect that makes it equally as interesting to me as psychedelic assisted therapies it's the only thing I've come across in the last five years that approaches the amplitude of effect size that you see in some of these results it's bananas but it's very intense by accelerated TMS what that means is you're getting your brain zapped
yeah it's not technically that I mean whatever we don't have to get into zapping it's using magnetism but you fucking feel it let me make it very clear you are getting zapped for and I could be getting some of the specifics wrong but I've gone through one cycle of this already you're getting zapped for something like eight and a half to ten minutes every hour on the hour for ten hours a day for five days straight
so you're doing 50 sessions in five days it's a hell of a thing but that is why I was undergoing this psychiatric evaluation was to determine what the diagnosis was such that they could try to determine which coordinates to use basically in placement of the stimulation super super super super interesting but the reason I brought that up is winding all the way back to kind of where we started I noticed really my new details
and that means also every mistake every like I could I could scan document I don't know if you're like this but like I can look at a document that four lawyers have reviewed and find stuff and I just have that ability I don't know what it is it's definitely not all blessing
there's a lot of curse to that but I could scan a document reading very quickly and be like this causes off that punctuation is off in minutes you're like a living chat GPT yeah I'm kind of like or yeah or a rainman in some respects but that comes with a huge tax
right because it drives other people crazy and you drive yourself crazy so I'm learning to contend with that which is a way of emphasizing how big a deal it is for me to collaborate in the way that I'm describing I will say also that the objective for the creative off site for me was to try to create a flywheel of collaborative potential and I'll explain what that means in other words I wanted to create enough imagery
and I wanted to create a new artwork also enough scaffolding in terms of world building so the pathologies the beliefs the alliances the conflicts the geography such that I could take all of that and give it as a world Bible of sorts to a writer who's never had any exposure to the realm of far lata right the legend of cockpunch and they would be equipped to write a short story or a module or an adventure for dnd campaign who knows or comic book and have it align with my creative
vision for that entire fantasy world which was a cool challenge I think it requires a little more time those types of creative pushes are often two to three weeks seems to be the sweet spot but that's a huge ask of my time and if everyone's time and I want to make sure that I felt comfortable in a shorter format first but I'm excited
because what a lot of people don't realize is this whole legend of cockpunch thing the only thing I need to do to make this something serious is change the name I don't need to change anything about the world I told you that yes it's actually really easy like if I wanted to switch that I think would be a terrible handicap right now because I want to continue to collaborate and by having the current branding it alleviates a lot of pressure I might apply to it
there's very little life to do to flip a switch and make this a extremely viable I don't know I don't know maybe maybe I think you should remember when we had this conversation I called you up and I said if you do these three things it's going to take off and one of them was the name change yeah of course of course I know it's a possibility right now it is working so well as a creative hyper drive and as a catalyst for just
like having my fusion reactor or something it's working so well that I'm like look don't get to clever like you can fuck things up by being too clever I was like don't get to clever like this is working really well you luck into a lot of it some of it's by design but you got really lucky like ride the lightning for a while don't fuck it up so I'm going to stick with it for a while there's no I don't feel also any time pressure whatsoever
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so no this is a good one though because from an outsider looking in you say okay Tim you've told us this is just my observations you say over and over legend of cockpunch it's a joke it's for fun it's a throw away I'm having a good time don't want to take it to seriously blah blah blah blah but you know in some sense let me just think about how to word this in some sense if you did take it seriously now you're a side you're not a
well I'm not a bad guy but you're a fiction writer fantasy writer fantasy writer and you could go for it you could decide at some point to go for it and say I want to try this but there's also a sense that it could fail and you're protected right now from failure because of the name so is that just a safety mechanism to Do you see what I'm saying? Like if we're being really vulnerable here? I do, yeah, it's a great question. So here's what I would say.
It's actually in a sense the opposite for me. So it's not a throw away. It's definitely not a throw away. It is something I think very profound, at least for me personally, that is in the guise of something ridiculous, which I think more people should try, honestly. It's actually a cheat code.
And I would say that instead of using it to avoid the possibility of failure, what it is enabling me to do is fucking swing for the fences in ways that I would never dare otherwise that could result in just a complete face plan. So I'm actually risking many, many, many different types of failure that I would be hugely adverse to, otherwise by couching it in the terms that I've been using.
And I am gonna do so much more of this in life, holy shit, like this has been such an unlock for me that I'm gonna do a lot more of it. And I'll mention a few other things just quickly because it ties into this nature of the random show. Let me just pull out a random piece of paper from the hat and we'll go from there. There's a great book. It's actually excellent for storytelling in general, although it is comic specific.
It was recommended to me by a very good artist and creative who works in comics named Daniel Henriquez or Enriquez, the DC Comics Guide to Writing Comics, which is such a boring title for a really entertaining and useful book. But the DC Comics Guide to Writing Comics by Denisoniel, that has sample script. It shows you side by side script plus final output. It goes into story arcs.
Not all of it would apply to what I want to do, but it was incredibly, I found it incredibly useful and also hilarious. The writing itself is spectacular. I thought it was spectacular by Dennis O'Neill. So I wanna give a hats off to him. And in terms of fiction, I would be very insecure if I were to take fiction writing prose only on, in say, novel or book form because there are some people who are so, so good at it.
For people out there who have not read any, say, fantasy fiction, we could certainly get into science fiction. I have a huge fantasy science fiction, Ted Chang. I'll just say that, CHI, A&G, the collection of short stories. Oh, that's not like eight short stories or something like that in one book. Yeah, exactly. So there's, is that the one? That was really good. Oh, maybe you said that a couple of years ago with him in the red. I mean, he's absurdly, absurdly good.
The movie Arrival was based on one of his short stories. I mean, the guy is so, so, so good. So to be able to pack that much information, like that dense of storytelling in such a short little, that brings you in so quickly, it's unbelievable writing. His ability to like turn your brain inside out with new concepts. Exactly. In fact, in like 15 pages, it's unbelievable. So Ted Chang for science fiction would be my starting point. And then you can try the longer stuff.
But for fantasy, Lord of the Rings is just too much for people to chew on generally. The name of the wind by Patrick Rothfuss, I think Darius read that actually, because I recommended it. She read the graveyard book, which was usually my, the graveyard book by Neil Gaiman is usually my trainer for people who are nonfiction purists, who are like fictionists dumb, I don't want to read fiction.
I'll usually break them in with the graveyard book by Neil Gaiman, usually audio book, because these people are like, I'm fucking busy. I'm like, okay, fine. Well, listen while you're walking the dog or doing the dishes or whatever. The graveyard book, Read by Neil Gaiman. The Ensemble is great, but don't do the Ensemble cast, Read by Neil Gaiman. And then the other one is the name of the wind by Patrick Rothfuss, which is fucking incredible. And I recommended it to a friend.
I hadn't read it in 10 years or something. And my friend, who is a fucking snob when it comes to writing. He has very high standards. He reads excellent books. He ripped through the two books that are part of this series, The King Killer Chronicles, in like four days. These are log books.
And it completely blew his mind, which got me very excited to read more fiction, but I didn't have a good lead until these concept artists, at least, I think one of the concept artists and one of the writers, at least. It was like three out of five or something said, you have to read The Blade Itself by Joe Abercrommie. And I'm in the middle of listening to The Blade Itself by Joe Abercrommie. And it is really fun. It is really, really, really good. I've really been enjoying it.
So on the creative side, I'm soaking myself in master's affiction. But I don't have the balls yet. Or let me put it a different way. It's not a balls issue. I don't have the hubris to want to take that on right now. I realize I have a lot of skill development to focus on. And I think that my sweet spot will actually be potentially comics. I really think comics might be my sweet spot, because I have the visual sensibility. And I do have the sort of directorial visual capacity.
I can think about all of that very easily. So I could see really, really enjoying that. And I want to recommend one other thing, which is, there's a very short, it's not really a TED talk, but it's on TED. There's a nine minute monologue. And what's genius about it is that he's such a good actor that he makes it seem impromptu. But you know he rehearsed the shit out of it. It takes a lot of practice to make something seem like it's impromptu. And it's Ethan Hawke, the actor.
And it is a short TED talk. It's like nine minutes long called, give yourself permission to be creative. And holy shit, it is so good and so powerful. I really, really recommend everybody check it out. It's such an easy lift. Amazing. Speaking of TED talks. Thank you for coming to my TED talk. Kevin, you're up. Yeah, so one thing I wanted to, we talked about that brain stimulation stuff. And Adam Gazali, your mutual friend at UCSF has been experimenting with that stuff for a long time.
For a long time. He's one of them. He's one of the pros. Long time. One thing that I will say, our mutual friend Matt Walker, who runs a Berkeley sleep lab, have you talked to Matt about brain stimulation? No, I don't. I literally took a note like 10 minutes ago to catch up with Matt Walker, because I haven't caught up with him in a while. So yes, I've been thinking about Matt. Talk about what I'm nicest. He's nice as we got. But I haven't talked to him about brainstem. I've not.
Matt is, and this is by no means an ad, I'm not involved at all. He's a scientific advisor for a company called Somni. SOM in EE. He sent me one of the devices. I haven't tried it yet, but I haven't sitting next to my bed oddly enough as one does. You wear 15 minutes before you go to sleep, and it's supposed to just really improve your sleep quality. Via brain stimulation. So definitely check that out.
And I know that obviously he wouldn't sign onto something unless he believed the science was solid, and he was very excited about this. It's a tough hurdle, is a startup to get people to feel comfortable stimulating their brain with currency. Like it's challenging, but it's really promising, and Matt was impressed with the result. So that's amazing. If you have trouble with sleep, definitely check it out. And Matt's obviously a legend. Story of my life. Good Lord. Yeah. So I will talk to Matt.
He's genuinely such a brilliant, but moreover sweet guy. He's just one of the sweetest guys I've ever met. He's nice. I kind of want to write him into my will and watch what he gives it like guys. Seriously. I mean, I know I met you a year ago, but could you be the godfather to my unborn children, please? I've never met them, but exactly. This is sweetest guy. So just weak guy. All right. So I know you have a bunch of stuff. All right. What else you're holding back here?
So speaking of just crazy shit early that I want to tell you about, I think about technology startups in general, we all know 90% of them fail. Some of them are so odd. They're worth mentioning because if they become something larger, you'll want to have heard about it, right? This is one of those. So there is a site out there. It is called Friend.Tack. Have you heard of this? No. Okay. I don't think so. So you get a sign up code. They're post them all over Twitter.
Somebody you'll know will have one. And when you go in, what they have realized and what Apple has done is Apple has said, you must pay us a 20% to ax on all transactions, right? And they've also banned cryptocurrency trading from the App Store. Like they don't allow that to happen. They like to have wallets and they like to buy from like coinbase, but they as payments, they haven't yet enabled that.
So some clever individuals have figured out that back in the day, they have a way with Safari, the little browser built in the iPhone, to install apps on the phone that aren't actually from the App Store. Oh, that's good. They're written. Okay. I see. Okay. So what they've done is somebody created called something called friend.tech. And when you sign in with your Twitter and off in your Twitter, it creates a profile for you. It gives you a place to post to your followers.
You can post out and they can all respond back, but they can't see each other's responses. So it's almost like a private DM that is coming from them to you, but whenever you send something out, it goes to everyone. Okay. All right. Now what happens though is you get one share of yourself to begin with. And they call them keys now because they realize you see my freak out about that. And they're tokenizing humans via a bonding curve. What? What does that mean?
Yes. Think of bonding curves like a slippery slide, like a child slide. And if you had to place a toy car on the bottom of the slide, if you're early and you're the first one, you're buying in at the ground floor, but as the car starts to go up the slide, which is the predefined curvature of the bonding curve, that becomes more and more pricey. So if I buy Tim Ferris as user number one, I might pay 10 cents a share for Tim Ferris.
And the next person might pay 15 cents, the next person might pay 20, and then it goes up from there. Right. And it's all done in Ethereum, but they do it on a layer two, which is another complex way of saying they kind of take it off chain, or not on the main chain. So it only costs pennies to do these transactions. Got it. So I'm going to be holding Apple and you're dodging the gas fees. Right. So think of this like, imagine this is like a new type of only fans, but for everyday content.
So if Twitter can have subscriptions, only fans can have fetishes about whatever, anyone name any, because I've seen some words, I've heard about some words, nice, nice, nice, nice, safe. Thank you. Thank you. So this allows them to dodge the micro payments. So I signed up, I was like, what the hell? I'm just going to try this, but here's the crazy thing to him. As people buy and sell you a percentage that goes back to you as the creator, the content creator.
So I didn't know that going into this. I'm like, oh, I'm just going to buy and sell some of my friends. And so I haven't sold anybody yet. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're saying buy and sell some of your friends, or you're selling not shares, because that's you see you'll freak out, but whatever the hell the, come keys, keys in yourself. What do people get? What are, okay, they get access to your feed, they get access to your feed. All right, okay.
So if you signed up, so it's like an Ethereum-denominated Patreon in a way. Something like that? Yes, exactly. But it's based on a bonding curve. So the sooner you get in the better, and then there's as you exit down, it falls the same curve down. So as you sell shares, so, you know, Nadia from Pussy Riot, I paid for hers, and she put some things on her feet. That's very nice. Nadia's beautiful woman, and there's no doubt about that.
And so Kevin just showed his iPhone screen to the video for those who don't want to check in on the video. He's like the video version. Hey, that's a Daria likes her. She told Daria that she has a nice ass, so my wife is a filter. Nice. I don't even know if I should be bringing this up right now. I've had two glasses. All right, so if you have female politics, you're so next level. Oh, so do it, you're just like, checkers and women are playing 3D chess, it's so much more complicated.
No, because she goes to Daria, like, oh, you have really nice ass. And Daria's like, thank you. And then later Daria's like, oh, she's at an SS. I'm like, what do I say? Like, oh, you both have nice asses. Like, what am I supposed to say? Like, there's no, you can say it. You're like, I like food. I like ass. I would like some scrambled eggs now. Like, there's nothing you can say. You're just going to go back to your normal program.
So anyway, there's, there's, that's, that's, she's went, went, went, went to follow. But here's the funny thing is, people are buying her selling me, right? And I wasn't aware of this, you get a cut of it. So dude, I've got like, almost three teeth in just royalties from people buying and selling me on this. So here's what I'm guessing. So people who are at the bottom of the slide are marking up and then selling their shares, their keys. Potentially. Kevin. So let me ask you this.
Are you ending up with the same scumbags that are so common in Web 3 land? Or is it like something you don't have to deal with? Scumbags, I call them friends. But I would say that I'm not saying everybody in those communities fits the description of scumbags, but there are a lot of fucking idiots. Like, let's be honest, right? Yeah, I don't think you can block anyone here, but so far everyone has been super nice. Okay, cool. I only have 30. I'm so cold, I'm so cold.
Also because if it's a DM, they don't get any social reinforcement for being pricks, right? Right. And that just really helps you. But they get, yes, exactly. Yeah. But my point really is not so much about whether this is, I think the SEC comes in here at some point, this gets too big and is like, you know, this probably isn't right. But I just, there's something interesting about this idea of owning a portion of, it's like when we were kids and you said, hey, this band's gonna be huge, right?
And you listen to a band. You get rewarded for being early. Yeah, exactly. And you were like, don't trust me, trust me. They're gonna break out the song, this is just the beginning. And then they become the next Pearl Jam or whatever. And you're like, I told you man, I was early. I was a fan since day one, you know? This is a way to say I was a fan since day one and get rewarded for it at the same time. So it's a fascinating social experiment.
I don't know where it's gonna go, but I think it's worth people just kicking the tires on. And so the way you get rewarded then, if you're buying keys, God, that's awkward, that term is used for so many things. Yeah, but whatever, keys in someone. So I buy keys in Kevin Rose. The way I get rewarded is number one, access to the feed. Although I don't think your ass shots are gonna be as good as the one that you should show me. I have pictures of you from that I haven't exposed yet.
All right, perfect. Can't wait. And then secondly, the way you get rewarded is you can, I guess sell some or all of your keys if you got an early. You get one share of your own self. You can buy more shares of your own self if you're bullish on yourself, but I would not recommend going and selling yourself. That just looks odd. For me, I've just gone out and bought a handful of other people that I respect or want to see their content.
I haven't sold anybody because I think this is like a house of cards a little bit. Dude, what happened to you? I want to play. The fuck is going on? I know, I was building a kid's construction set. My kid's house and fucked it up. My little- Looks like you've been punching cement blocks. I know. I do want to take some boxing classes though. That's been on my list of to-dos. Yeah, you should just don't get hit in the head. Yeah, I know that. Yeah, TBI does not help what you want to do.
I mean, boxing is great. You all feel like you're about to die after three minutes of working on pads. It is so unbelievably tiring, especially if you have a trainer who moves a lot and can avoid what you're trying to accomplish. Moitai also excellent for pad work. I've been thinking about getting back into Moitai, but I have to fix my spinal pain first. Moitai is probably one of the worst things that I could possibly do right now, given the state of affairs. But boxing's great, man.
And you'll have access to a lot of good gyms. Yeah, there's got to be some out here. I'm going to go try and find a good one. Yeah, a ton. You got tons of options. Yeah, just skip the sparring. Skip the sparring, work on pads. Yeah. Well, I mean, you could do light sparring. They're right with padded head gear. Like, as long as it's not too, I, you know, here's, let me explain what happens in light sparring with head gear. So here's what happens with light sparring with head gear.
Everyone's cool for like 60 seconds. And then someone throws a punch that's a little too hard. And they say, oh, sorry, man, sorry. And the other person's like, yeah, it's fine, no problem. Then the other person throws a shot. It's a little harder. And then before you know it, you're just fucking giving each other brain damage left and right. That, and then you both have headache for three days. And you actually have real jobs. And it's a, it's complete. Oh, fine. Wasted brand sells.
So the way that's sparring, it's not really sparring. But the way that contact can make sense is if you have someone who's really good at holding meds, you know, pads, who will occasionally check you with their own hands, but they have the pads on. So they're not hitting you hard, but they're giving that face to the face. It's like a little step to the face. So you have to react and you have to develop some defensive capabilities. That's, yeah, I think that's tolerable.
But speaking as someone, oh my God, going through these psychiatric evaluations, the number of questions related to concussions and traumatic brain injury is really beyond anything I would have expected. Like the correlation of depression, anxiety, et cetera, to TBI, to traumatic brain injury is undeniable. Yeah, turns out, fucking up your brain is going to fuck up your brain.
Well, yeah, but it's not immediately clear if you're say a skateboarder when you're a kid, like I skateboarded you did too. I'm sure you ate shit sometimes, like you whacked the living hell out of your head. I was actually talking to Tony Hawk about this, because, you know, his mom passed from dementia, and we were talking about, you know, some of the brain injuries and stuff that he's been through.
And he's just like, you know, at the time this was years ago, some kind of paraphrasing, but at the time he's just like, you know, that's what I do. Yeah. Like you're kind of too far in at that point, you know. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, and I talked to Rhonda Patrick, and I was like, this is many years ago, we were talking about omega-3s that get fertone, and he's like, stuff that we could potentially do to like, you know, give him some brain health, you know, it's tough.
He's seen some damage. Yeah. Have you ever seen his shins? Oh, they must be terrible. I haven't. They're beat up, dude. It's like, he's like, he's like a moit-tie fighter. I have so much respect for that, dude. I mean, talk about somebody that the last time I saw him was probably six months ago and went to this donut place so that was opening up. And he had a cane with him. What? And he's like, he was like, well, he had just had surgery. Oh, I see. I'm like, how you doing, man?
He's like, ah, you know, they just opened me up, put a few more screws in. He's like, I'll be skating like this. And you know, it's like, the dude just has no fear. Like, there's like no, he's just like, ah, they just opened me up, put a few screws in and I'm gonna go back at it. Like, what the fuck? Good for him. You're already the goat, you know what I mean? Like, well, it's like layered Hamilton, same with surfing, right? He's just like, yeah, get patched up.
I'm back out there, broke my leg on a 100 foot wave and like 17 places, yeah, that's fine. They'll just stitch your back together. I'll be out in two months. It's just insane, dude. I'm not built like that. It's impressive. You know, side note, and this is not to make a blanket recommendation because I'll be really irresponsible, but I saw a presentation, I'm not sure if it's publicly available on a scientific study that examined psilocybin so what is considered the active component in...
Everything's that is. What's some do, some do in psilocybin mushrooms, different types of mushrooms, so magic mushrooms, in Parkinson's patients for the... Oh, shit. Minimizing or reversal of symptoms. And it's very compelling. So I do think that psychedelics is unclear exactly what type to me at least. Maybe they are the triptomine psychedelics. Maybe they are... Who knows? Maybe it has something to do with the acetone type.
To A receptors, I'm not sure that's beyond my pay rate, but I will say that for those who are interested, if they can find this research, which could be very preliminary, who knows? Maybe it's pilot study type of status, but looking at psilocybin is applied to Parkinson's patients. I do think it's from a neurogenesis perspective. I find it one of the more promising avenues of exploration. I do think for people with TBI, I do think psychedelic assisted therapies are very interesting.
I would say psilocybin probably one of the better researched molecules and worth investigating. I began also very interesting, but it has cardiac implications. Either cardiac implications, the Nolan Williams I mentioned earlier has looked at ways to mitigate some of the cardiac risk. Both of those are very, very, very interesting.
psilocybin at this point probably being the more versatile of the two, just from a safety propal perspective, but I'm very optimistic about, for those people who want to look at the edges, of scientific inquiry, I'm very optimistic actually, in a way that I wasn't say 10 years ago, in how we might contend with neurocognitive decline, or neurodegenerative disease. I'm actually much more optimistic than I was 10 years ago. Have you, did you have to invest in Paul Stammist new company? I did not.
I'm not doing a whole lot of investing and I haven't. We did it true ventures. You did good. He's got a psilocybin new company that they're doing studies and hopefully, the stuff gets legalized. We'll see what happens. Yeah, Paul Stammist knows this stuff, man. You know, Paul Stammist is one of a kind. He's a great human being.
And in my experience, all my experiences with him, we actually just last week, maybe in the last two weeks, he and I did a challenge grant to raise money for the Amazon Conservation Team to buy historically indigenous land to return it to certain tribes in Columbia, including the Kogi and a handful of others. They're not in the Amazon. They're at higher altitude in the North and a handful of others.
And then ACT equips them with training to be able to sort of monitor and report on their territories. It's not really enough just to secure land rights. And Paul was generous enough to, along with my foundation to issue the challenge grant. So we just did that together in the last two weeks. Paul knows this stuff. He really, really knows this stuff. I feel very confident in saying that. Smart guy. He's got some great talks as well. We're checking out. All right. Should we move on? Let's move on.
So I'll mention something that's sitting outside. I can see it from here. The people might be interested in. So I've been, and still I'm a fervent, fervent believer in cold therapy using ice baths as a means of controlling inflammation as a means of mood elevation that lasts on the big time. Big time. Unbelievable. And generally my approach has been to get a chest freezer of some type in philogenitis, et cetera. And that works, but they get really disgusting really quickly and they all do.
And I thought one of the machines, the real pro ones. Yeah. And then you're stuck with this thing that is an ice horror and you don't know what to do with it. You can't move it. Yeah. I try to sell it. I couldn't. Yeah. Yeah. So I ended up, because I realized how significant a lever this is for proving my quality of life, just on a daily basis. Like, and I'll backstep for a second and just say one thing that I learned from Tony Robbins to give him credit.
And I don't know if he came up with this. But is this sequence of state story strategies? It's like fix your state first. Only then can you come up with an enabling story. And only then can you come up with an effective strategy. If you're like feeling shitty and you're sleep deprived and you're kind of depressed or anxious or whatever, you try to come up with a strategy, meaning how to fix something, you're not going to come up with a good strategy, generally speaking.
So it's like fix your physical state first. Then you can come up with an enabling story. Then come up with an effective strategy. So the state piece is very important. There aren't that many ways I have found to change state. Exercise is one, but it requires generally a fair amount of time. Heat is also effective, but again requires say, it doesn't sound like a much, but it's like 15 to 30 minutes. Let's just say in a sauna, very effective. Cold is the fastest. It's just the fastest for me.
And I've gone without cold therapy because I've not wanted to get some huge chest freezer or a pro model. I am also going to be getting a pro model. But they get all scummy though. And then you got to put chlorine in them. Yeah, this is all that. But I went on Amazon and I found something called cold pod, which you set up in like five minutes. You fill it with water from a hose. You put ice in. And it works perfectly well as a cold plunge. And I ended up buying a Yeti cooler to store ice in.
So I have a few days of ice. And let's see. What would it be? It would be like, if you were standing, maybe it's hip height. And it's probably three feet in diameter. And you get in, you just kind of crouch in there. And it works fucking great. It works really well. And it costs like 150 or 200 bucks. Maybe, I don't know, maybe it's 100 bucks. It's not crazy. 169. There you go. And I've been really impressed with this thing. It's very basic.
And even when it's been very hot outside, like you put it in two bags of ice and you let it sit for 20 minutes, it's going to get pretty cold. It's not going to be 30 degrees, but it's probably going to be mid-50s, depending on how much water you have in there. Pro tip, the more water you have in there, the more ice you're going to need to cool it. So don't fill it all the way up to the top. Fill it up like halfway and then add the ice. And it's been a game changer for me.
It's the plastic trash can. No, it's not a plastic trash can. It is. I mean, it props to whoever made this shit, because it probably cost like 15 bucks to build one of these things. Yeah, it's not a trash can. I just to be clear, I mean, it's, look, we're not talking about a fucking Maserati. But here's what's nice about it. It's very easy to set up. It's not a trash can. So that makes it sound like it's like mid-chest height and hard. It's easy to pack.
You can actually travel with it if you want to travel with it. So I would just say for people who have traveled with it. Oh, it's super easy, man. You like it folds up? Yeah, folds up. You stick it in the bag and take it with you. It's super easy. Put your hotel room. Yeah, I hope that loves 50 gallons of water spilling out.
So for those people who have perhaps heard about the benefits of cold therapy, but have avoided it because it's too expensive, it's too time consuming, whatever, this is a way to test it. And I would just say this is a low hurdle way to test it out. And I used it earlier today. It's fantastic. Change my day. So that's the cold bud. And there are a bunch of other options they look basically identical. I just went with the one with the best reviews. That's fancy.
I need something like this because I don't want to commit to like sterilizing my water. That's always been the problem with these things, right? I just want something I can get into. But how many bags of ice do you really need to pull this off? I'd have to go look at the bags that are in the Yeti right now. I mean, you need like six? No. Well, it depends on the size of the bag, right? I would say I'm guessing. I have no idea if this is accurate. Two 20 pound bags of ice.
Probably. Okay. So something like that. Assuming that it is about half full. If you fill it up to the brim, you are making a mistake because now to lower the temperature, you're going to need a larger volume of ice. But if we're talking about, let's just say it's halfway up. And then you put in two 20 pound bags of ice, your set. So with a Yeti cooler. And this thing I am good to go. I got a question for you, Kevkev. Have you ever read poetry? This is hard left. Yes. Yeah. What do you read?
It's more. I shouldn't say it's poetry. I've done. It's tweets. No, no, no. I'm going to send you the book that I have found that I started reading recently that was fantastic. But I've dabbled. Horton, here's a who. No, no, no. I've had a couple of books that I picked up. But they're mostly high coup books. Like for me, high coup is kind of my poetry. Yeah, sure. I mean, it's sort of in the zone. Right? It's in the zone. Move. I like high coup because it is just like, it really has to hit.
Don't fuck with me. It really has to hit though. You know what I mean? Like you got three lines. You get to get a pull of something pretty amazing, you know, speaking of that sci-fi writer. It's like it really forces you to have something really dense and trigger, make the mind leap, you know, in the three lines. Yes, I do. It's a strong, strong constraint. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I was wondering because I've been delving strongly back into poetry. And that Ethan Hawke, nine minutes, Ted Talk.
Which is very informal, but don't let it fool you. He prepared for it. The giving yourself permission to be creative. He talks about poetry and he mentions, and I'm going to butcher this, but he says, you know, no one really cares about poetry or you wonder why on earth people would read poetry until you have something happen. It could be something tragic, like the death of the parent. It could be something incredibly joyous, like the birth of a child.
And you wonder, has anyone ever felt this way before? How am I going to get through this? Or how should I think about this? And then poetry becomes really relevant, or it can become really relevant. And I've been delving back into Mary Oliver. I read her collection devotion and I recently bought a small collection called Dreamwork, which I haven't finished. So in disclosure, if you read it and you hate it, I'm not going to take the blame for it.
I also have reread now multiple times this collection of newly translated rumy called Gold by Halalisa Gafori, who is particularly interesting to me because she is poet herself in English, but she's also a native Farsi speaker. So she can go back to the source material, the original and translate effectively. And what many people don't realize is that many versions of translated poetry are not actually directly translated.
They take some earlier English translation from like the 1920s or something. And then they turn it into better poetry. But now you have a leap from say Farsi to English to English, which is like a game of telephone, things get distorted. Whereas she can go directly. So Gold, this very short collection of rumy poetry, I have reread a number of times.
And this particular poet, I have not read this yet, but you can see this. This is Time as a Mother by Ocean Vuong, V-U-O-N-G, which I assume is Vietnamese. I read his first book, which blew my mind. I'm not sure why I was drawn to it. I bought it as an impulse purchase of some Barnes and Noble in New York City. And I think it was probably the title. The title was Night Sky with Exit Wounds, which is a great fucking title. It's so good.
And I had this like family, that's a great fucking title. I love the title like that. And it was like a family photo on the front. I was like, what the fuck is going on here? So I picked it up. And I will warn people in advance, true or warning for some people. There are some very graphic sex scenes in this poetry book. So there's that. But I was so impressed. I have not read his new collection yet, but Night Sky with Exit Wounds and Apology of the author, if I'm butchering your name.
I was very impressed. And what I loved about it also is that I'm generally reading the words of dead poets. Oh my god. Do you know what I mean? Like I'm always reading the words of dead poets. And this is a contemporary. I would guess that this author is younger than I am. And it's still put me into the cosmic philosophical washing machines and fuck me up. And I was like, okay. All right. Nice.
Can I give you a couple recommendations in if you're into this? Yes. There's a book called Japanese Death Poems. Fantastic. I was gifted that by a friend of mine who used to be Marine Force Recon. And it's fucking amazing. Yeah. How did you find that book? There's Haiku in there as well. Like it's like it was part of my whole discovery of Haiku. No, I know about how do you discover that? I'm curious before you get to the next one. How did you find that?
I'll tell you how I read a book called Three Simple Lines, which Henry Shookman, Zen Master that you've had on the podcast, recommended to me. And he's at this Natalie Goldberg is the author. She was the author of this book called Down the Bones. I think it's writing down the bones. Writing down the bones. That is a great book. She has a book called Three Simple Lines, which is about Haiku. And it's fantastic. It's a really good book.
That got me into Haiku. That got me excited about a bunch of other of the greats like Bashou and Busan, like some of the best Japanese Haiku writers. The OGs. So I bought a book called The Sound of Water. And then that led me to the Japanese Death Poems. And then there was one other one that I wanted to tell you about. That is really awesome, which is Chiyo. I'm going to mess up the Japanese pronunciation. It's a Chiyo knee. Are you familiar with CHI, YO, Chiyo knee, and I?
Was I having to say that? No, I don't know. I'd have to look it up. What is that? Okay. So. So she is a Japanese woman Haiku master. And so if you go and look up, basically Haiku master is back in the day, probably coming to no surprise, we're all men.
And so she is one of the very few that like was taken in and I broke out and became a Japanese Haiku master. And so it's just a really kind of awesome story. And you get some Haiku from a female back in those days, which is, you know, a long time ago. Super rare. Super rare. Super rare. Yeah, I am reading. Okay. So I think it's Fuku da Chiyo knee. That's her name Fuku da Fuku da, which means I guess like Furtuitist rice paddy Fuku da Chiyo knee.
It's like 1000 era. Oh, my congee are failing me right now. Neum blanking on was Japanese poet of the Edo period and a Buddhist nun. She's widely regarded as one of the greatest posts of Haiku. And then Hoku. I don't know what that is. Some of she was best works include the morning glory, putting up my hair and again, the women fascinating. Okay. Yeah, I've not had any exposure. Yeah, definitely worth picking up. I think holy shit. She began writing Haiku at seven.
By age 17 had become very popular all over Japan. That's nuts. Considering that she was born in 1703. So right to be born in 1703 and by 17 as a woman in Japan. To be famous all over Japan. That's bananas. Right. I mean, I had seen some of her work in these other books. And it was just mind blowing. And I'm like, who is this woman? And then I did somewhat what you did probably a year ago, rather Wikipedia entry or whatever. And I was like, holy shit. She was a badass.
All right, I'll check it out. So is the name of the book then Shioni? Is that it? Yeah, it's a Shioni woman Haiku master. That's one the one I purchased. There could be others about her. But that was the one that I had purchased, which is probably just a compilation of her works. Cool. So other books I'll throw out there for people interested. I recently listened to a lot of audiobooks recently, Coyote America. And I think the subtitle is a natural and supernatural history.
I believe is by Dan Flores. Yes. Coyote America, a natural and supernatural history. And it's got 4.6 on Amazon with more than 1500 reviews. And it's a biological natural evolutionary history of the Coyote.
But also a supernatural, a K.A. mythological history of Coyote and the significance Coyote and in different indigenous traditions. And it goes to the entire span of history also drawing most interesting. I think parallels between the evolution adaptation of homo sapiens and the evolution and adaptation of Coyotes.
It's uncanny. It sounds horrible. Sounds horrible. Okay, sorry. You got Coyotes. I get judges. You love wolves. No, Coyotes would be first probably. Wolves would be second. What's the one that looked in the mouth? Those were wolves when I spent time with the Arctic wolves. I mean, gray wolves, but from Canada. That's crazy. They'd look to the right in the mouth on the teeth. That's the greeting.
By the way, folks who may wonder, wolf head, not the same as dog head. They're fucking huge mongus. Like they could put your entire head in their mouths. They're, they are not the same as dogs. But I would say Coyotes, I would identify more with Coyote. And it's a fascinating history to recognize how adaptive both humans in the sense of homo sapiens.
And Coyotes have been over time. I mean, humans attempted the most systematic extermination of Coyotes as a species. Unlike any other species in the history of humankind. And we were talking about millions upon millions upon millions of poison bait traps and so on.
And despite that, Coyotes have proliferated and adapted beyond anyone's wildest imaginations. Now part of that is from the removal of their check and balance, which is gray wolves. So there's the removal of the gray wolf as the apex predator. Which then has resulted in part in this proliferation of Coyote populations. But because they were never the top predator, they have awareness and caution about them that makes them very hard to kill.
Furthermore, when they're under pressure, their litter size increases. It's not wild as like an evolutionary adaptation. When they're under threat, they go from having. I'm making this up. Let's just say three pups per liter to like six or seven pups per liter.
Oh, crazy. Isn't that wild? It's a fascinating book. It's really, really interesting. And also interesting from the lens of looking at how we have historically looked at Coyotes as a reflection of the aspects of ourselves that we were least willing to accept.
It's super interesting going all the way back to Mark Twain who I love Mark Twain. However, on the particular account of Coyotes created a whole ton of fucking damage and craziness. But it was a good book. It was a good book, especially the first half, I would say.
You don't know which there was this is just me being a random two glass and a half in the show podcast or around show. You know, it'll be fun is like, I'm just making this up. I like product ideas. Wouldn't it be cool if you could say, Hey, I'm Tim. I'm going to listen to this Kiety book for an hour and we could all tune in and like listen. And at the same time, and like, see comments and chat and stuff like that. And there would be no voice. Like it wouldn't be a disruptive.
We're just all listening. And like it would be like, you could say like one thing per five minutes or whatever like or give a heart or something like when you'd like to certain segment of it or something. There'd be something pretty powerful about that. Super fun. I think people really dig that, especially the music. You were kind of listening at the same time. I love this on Tim right now. I love that idea.
All right, audible. Anybody from audible is out there. Yeah, being synchronous and connected in that way. Do tech. It's like it's amazing. Yeah, it's amazing. Amazingly good and amazingly bad. I mean, we are more connected than we have ever been in terms of communication and more isolated and lonely than we have ever been.
Holy shit. What a situation. Good point. All right. Let's get through. We're an hour and a half in, but I've got some crazy shit to tell you. Well, let's go to crazy town. Come on, Kevin Rosy. Been hold out. You and I have been been supplement gays for a while. You more so than me for many, many years. You got me onto some crazy shit early on. Always give credit back to the Tim Ferriss for the earliest. You got me into everything, man. All the age, the ancient stuff. Then you should me.
You know, I think we'll matter trans place from Tasmania transplants. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, all the ketamine's positive. I just the best. I mean, I just did one before we started the show. So, you know, feeling it. All right. So a few things that is that everything by the way.
People coming out the bite. Oh, yeah, they boof the K app, the bomb. It's a thing. It's a thing. Yeah. I think it's kind of ridiculous, but people like any excuse to take drugs at the bottom of the bus is also like a constant through human history. Yeah, go figure that one out. Do you have a book about it in coyotes? The four hour coyote spasdory. Yeah, I don't want to say the coyote up the bunk. That sounds uncomfortable. It does. Let's go straight in for everybody involved.
I mean, I'm not sure if you're the things that I wanted to mention were you've cut back on supplements. Is that fair to say over the years? Why I went to your medicine cabinet one time. There was like a thousand things in there. Yeah, I mean less than I used to for sure. I mean, I still take more supplements than anyone else. Except for maybe you tell me Peter.
You tell me how many of these you agree with or you take or you're curious about. Okay. Number one, I found that collagen for us getting older is legit in terms of like reducing visible lines. Like just general skin health. Do you take collagen? You know, it makes this is going to sound funny. Collagen makes me kind of itchy. I don't know why it makes me like I get kind of itchy. Yeah.
So I do take collagen. I think it's very interesting also as a flooding dose prior to resistance training and people can look this up. Taking collagen prior to stimulating say a location of injury is very, very interesting. Okay, but I hate being really fucking itchy. So I don't I don't take it too much.
So two things run to Patrick puts together some great data kind of analysis of all the different published studies that are out there and there's really strong evidence around just general skin elasticity. As you get older and then obviously joints in general if you're running any of that type of stuff just really healthy joint stuff. Great lakes, no affiliation brand that run it takes. I'm a fan of your cheeks look like a newborns buttocks. Is that from the collagen? They look very voluptuous.
Another thing before we get off the collagen train bone broth. Okay. Okay. So brodo, which you know Marco, right? Yeah, I do. Of course I don't want to mark before. Yeah. So Marco James Beard award winning chef best chef. He's been on my podcast. Yeah. Amazing. He's fantastic. He's fantastic. Here's the cool thing is I talked him brodo forever was his broth company where he shipped you frozen broth to your house.
And I used to author COVID it was fantastic. It's like the best broth kills everything on the shelves that I've been a part of that are tasted. He figured out a way to get it so that he doesn't have to add any preservatives no concentrates or nothing but shelf stable.
So it's fantastic and it is these are single servings you rip them up and put them in the cup and there's a one minute in the microwave and you're good to go. It's my go to broth. Brodo is fantastic brodo.com no affiliation not invested just a friend. All right. You ready for two more things.
So I also mentioned and this is a little self interested because I'm one large investors in this company. But so he is also played around with bone broth from access to your from Maui, which is from Maui Newy, which I'm very well and the college and protein levels are fucking bananas there like off the charts to the point where people think there are errors in lab reports. It's really well.
Well, would they do pills of that because that would be really interesting in in pill form. Yeah, I don't I don't think so right now it's just whole food or nothing which I kind of like because it forces you to do a little bit of work. But Marco is the master of broth.
He really is. Yeah, sharp, brodo 100% if you live in New York, by the way, he's got physical locations where you can go and get these bras and cut form like I like if you're going to a cafe and you'll know anyone New York will tell you like it's the best is just legit. Right, a couple more things three more things real quick, ASAP, you know, the brand ASAP. Yeah, what is that they make little tiny BB hand sanitizers now and they smell amazing A ESOP.
Okay, yeah, do you know not know this brand? No, I do know the brim. What are you using your hand sanitizer for? No, just like you know, when you're in Uber's and shit, you know, he's got a little hand sanitizer. Yeah, I'm just a little hand sanitizer. Good kids. Okay, so I just want to do that. I have no affiliation. Next thing is creating fucks up my stomach. Yeah, it really gives you a potential for disaster pants.
Hi, it's just all kinds of things are wrong with creating. But as someone that works out, you want to take it because you know, you get a little boost in the gym and all that good stuff. Have you ever tried this stuff right here? Yeah, I've got some of the bathroom. Do you really? Yeah, I do. It's buffered creating. Yeah, dude, it eliminated all my stomach issues. Anyway, I thought.
Yeah, it's done by now sports. If you've had issues taking creating and you're working out and you want to take some, I just want to throw it up there is something that is good. You want to hear a horrifying story that I would never tell you if I were sober. Oh, of course. So I was in San Francisco and I was rushing to prepare for an international flight long international flight. I can't remember where I was going, but it was a long flight. And 12 plus hours.
I was going to do that kind of deal. And I was running around running around and I had like two double espresso and some espresso machine and like two double espresso. A bunch magnesium and a whole shit telegrams going like four grams five grams of stupid amount like unnecessary amount and thought that was a good idea for whatever reason. So I'm driving to the airport and I'm like, oh, God, my stomach doesn't feel so good.
And I'm like, oh, kind of gassy. Oh, not feeling so great. And so, you know, I do a little lean and just properly. Shit all of myself. So bad. And I'm like, are you in Uber? No, no, I'm driving myself to like long term parking. And I'm like, okay. So I'm like, wow, this is disaster. What do I do here?
You bust out the luggage. Yeah. No, this is when I wish I had your ASAP hand sanitizer. And so I'm on my way. And I'm just like, all right, how do I find the silver lining this because this is so bad. And I'm going to be late to my flight. I might miss my flight. And I call one of my close friends. I'm not going to mention in my name because I'm like, this is the one guy who's going to find this fine here than anyone else. So I call him. And I'm like, you will not believe what just happened.
And I explain the whole thing. And of course, he gets like extreme to light out of this whole situation, which like gives me some redeeming aspect of the whole thing. I get to the long term parking garage. I'm like, what do I do here? So I take off my underwear. White myself down the underwear, chuck it under some other car.
And run to my flight with no underwear on like long pants, obviously. And then sit down for like a 12 hour flight, smelling like I've just taken a tumble through a fucking slaughterhouse. Were you economy at that was station. Yeah, this was like middle seat economy for 12 hours kind of thing. Oh, fuck.
It was so bad. I mean, it was bad for me. It was embarrassing, but it was like bad. Also for everyone around me. And I'm not proud of this. But I've had enough domain, tempi air to confess my sins. Everyone's had a close call. If not a fatal disaster in this domain. Yeah, if you've had enough creating a caffeine. Don't lie to me. You've had disaster pants. At some point, either you saved it and you slid into home or you had absolute like triage where it was.
Tim, you mentioned ASAP for you wish you had some during this occasion. Maybe they'll want to be a sponsor. You could probably cut this little story out. And use it and be like, you know, I shit myself one time. If I only had ASAP. As an answer. The whole thing would be one of their highest converting. Yeah, adds also. Exactly. I have something to show you as an artifact, physical artifact. So this is the latest cockpunch coffee. I sure you can see it's very pretty. It's very like.
Wow. Selective and gorgeous. That is beautiful. That's a lot of cockpunch. How big is that bag? This bag is how many ounces? Let's say this is 10 ounces. So we got the cockpunch sort of Miami vice magenta and teal type colors in the front. We got all the greater houses on the side. We got the eightfold arena icon on that side, which is also for the clerics house Nemos. Then we got the sort of description of the back QR code to like the whole story.
And then we have the UPC, which means that this is retail ready. So I will have some announcements in the not too distant future related to some more urine of teas. This coffee. Holy shit. I've never been a methodic and I don't want to trivialize it. But when I was testing for this, I didn't understand how real coffee masters and then baristas test coffee.
So I was doing multiple cups of coffee for every variation that I tested. Oh, yeah. And I was drinking like 12 cups of coffee a day. I was so cracked out. It was not ideal. But I did test dozens and dozens of varieties and ultimately ended up on Ethiopian.
Yeah, oh, yeah, for sure. This is bombay. Sadama Ethiopia. This is Ethiopia mother station wash. Ethiopian coffees are just like so chill. Yeah, nobody's offended. Everyone just loves them. There is right down the fairway. They're they're not too heavy. Not too light. They just give you a good flavor profile. Like nobody's best.
Not too oily. This is also medium blend. And I want to give credit. This is roasted on a bell weather. So bell weather is all electric. The lowest carbon imprint coffee that you can purchase. It's all electric, which also makes it very replicable, which is super interesting. Right.
When you're using analog roasting technology, there's a pretty high degree of variance, whereas with bell weather and bell weather is B L L W T H E R. It is all electric. So you can dial in the specs and really replicate on demand, which is impressive to me. I've been very impressed with their consistency. I got to say on the whole thing conversation we had earlier about the cockpunch name. If you go the route of stimulant drinks slash. It's perfect. It's perfect.
It's the enhancement. You're fucking. Oh, yeah, it's it's right out the fairway. Yeah, yeah, the cockpunch fills up at 7 11 behind the counter that just the getcha going. Right. Right. You're right at the impulse purchase. We're home right next to five hour energy. So do you need a lift cockpunch? Yeah. And also all of my proceeds are going to the foundation. So they go directly to early stage science and all that stuff. That new jet that you guys bought for your foundation.
He's beautiful. Here's the ship Rick. You can. She says I do not have a jet for the foundation. Kevin is punching me in the knots as per usual hashtag. Okay. All right. What else you got to get two more things to say. So one thing. And I'm this one here. I'm about three months into testing. It's called one skin.
And I am not a person that goes out and buys like skin products. But I have said as I've gotten older like you know you think about your crow's feet and all the other shit you have gone on like eyebrows and all this stuff. I was fine. Right right right right right right here. No, I'm involved in this podcast. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But but what got me interested is this is a the isolated is a very science driven team that isolated peptide.
That clears out senescent cells. Okay. Like euthanizes all the people in this senior living home basically from a cell perspective. Pretty much makes all the bad cells die and all the fresh ones live and lines go away. I think this is all bullshit. But here's the thing.
Ron to Patrick was the first one to talk about it because she was convinced by the science and then David's in Claire also tweeted about it because he was really convinced by the science. I'm like listen these are two people that are way above my pay grade that on the science side I respect.
And if they're talking about this peptide and they're liking the kind of peer reviewed articles that are coming out about her science is coming out about it. I'm going to pay attention. And so I pick some up and like you know I'm like three months in. And I'm sorry to notice little time changes just like in skin quality and like less like bumpiness that I would have and more just kind of like supple I've also had some pizza lot pizza. At least I probably have you look at it.
You look very very supple plump. Yeah, pleasantly plum. But I would say that in general I'm pretty impressed. So I just want to throw that out there. I'm not the scientist, but you know a couple amazing scientists have already recommended this. What's the name of this thing one's one skin. Oh, and yeah, one investor. Yeah, just only skin and they don't have like this extensive product line of all these things.
There's like three things you can buy it like a cleanser and I cream. I like that. I want to say more. I like a few skews. You know it's like you have a thousand things. Like all right, you're like lining your pipeline with all this shit to feed me as a customer, but it's like if you have like one, two, three things. All right, you're really focused on refining that product.
I have a buddy that had lost a bunch of weight lately and had a bunch of kind of like lines in his neck. And so he started applying a bunch of the stuff to his neck. And he's like I'm noticing some results. And I was like, this is kind of interesting. It's worth like letting other people try and see what they think. You know my crow's feet are like fucking Brontosaurus feet at this point. They're out of control. You should try to one eye for three months. That would be fucking cool. Right?
Yeah, that's actually a real great idea. Try to one eye. And like dates, you're like real fucked up like I just want to cross feet pirate. That'd be great. Just one eye your dates like, oh, something's going on. What was it? No, no, no, one skin one skin. Yeah. Anyway, lastly, this is a Peter Tia recommendation. I wanted to really clean, clean, clean, clean protein for when I make shakes and work out.
You probably know about pro mix, right? I don't know. I think about them. Oh, so this is a Tia's favorite protein. Or at least it was as of a couple months ago. I don't see an investor in pro mix. I don't think so. Yeah. It's called pro mix. The founders I was reading up on who's behind it. And it's like just insanely insanely clean grass fed hormone free cows, minimally processed.
You know, there's a lot of them that are out there like this. But I know a Tia has a whole SWAT team of people that do all the due diligence for him when he's considering anything new. And if he's going to say something's interesting, I pay attention and they actually make these little tiny bars that are way protein like little rice crispy treats kind of thing, but they don't spike glucose because I wear my continuous glucose monitor.
And it puts on things like there are either 15 or 20 grams of protein. And so I just had those snacks I travel with as well. So pro mix is his favorite protein as of the loss of my chat with them. So pro mix. And then do you want to mention this rice cooker? I think that might be interesting. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I found a rice cooker. I don't have a link to it in front of me. But there was a rice cooker that I stumbled upon. So I love rice, you know, but for me,
I'm so delicious. So good. It's so good. And Tim, like back in the day, and you'll remember this quite well. But when you were into continuous glucose monitors. And then you got me into them shortly after used to have to like manually inject yourself with a big ass syringe. Do you remember to put those in that host so bad?
It was like a barbecue fork tong. You know, to stick into your abdomen. Yeah, really bad. And you would watch the needle go in. There was like no quick action. You had like pushed it and then pushed out. And then you get this continuous glucose monitor. And this is like, you know, whatever, 10 years ago, you started doing it. I thought you were crazy. And then I copied you like two months later.
And so I started doing it. And one of the things I noticed and I've noticed since my entire time doing CGMs is that rice is my biggest offender. If I eat a cup of rice, my shit is through the roof on the glucose site. And everybody's different. Everybody has different microbiome. There's a whole slow factors on what happens here. But here's the interesting to Shiba, who is a trusted brand, came out with a quote unquote low carb rice cooker. And I was like, what the fuck is this? Like low carb like this bullshit, right?
We all know rice is high carb. What are they talking about brown rice? You know, like all this shit, right? Even brown rice spikes me, by the way. So I went. I did the research and what they've done is they created this clever little basket. They figured out that a typical rice cooker 99.9% of rice cookers you pour the water in. Cook the rice. It's stews in its own water. And your rice is done. You scoop in your bowl.
A bunch of the starch, called like 70 or so percent of it is released in that water during the kind of the process of actually making a cooking rice. So Toshiba invented a new rice cooker. They call it their fuzzy logic technology rice cooker. That has a basket that lets all of the starchy water drain to the bottom. And you end up with a much lower glycemic load. It cuts the carbs by 34%. Sorry, 37% reduction in color.
Reduction in carbohydrate and two to I ate a couple rice and I'm telling you I can see it on my CGM. It does not spike me nearly as much is the full rice, which I thought was pretty awesome. I wouldn't believe this in anyone else, but Toshiba came out with it. And I was like, okay, if Toshiba is going to put the name behind it, it must have done the research, you know, yeah, they're big dog.
So $179, if you want to cut a little bit of carbs out of you or you rise as a big offender for you, it works with oatmeal, it works with the whole slew brown rice white rice and quinoa, the whole range of things. Anyway, I just thought it was really cool. It's got 1,852 ratings with 4.5 out of five stars, 4.6 stars out of five. So people love it.
300 plus a bottle last month. Let me ask you this taste wise, is it as good as I couldn't tell the difference, okay, little bit on the texture, little tiny bit on the texture, but like call it a maybe 5 to 7% delta from what you're normally experiencing on rice. So it's you're not pissed. It's fine. It's fine. Nobody's complaining. That's a big deal. It's a big deal. I fucking love rice. There are so many carbs. I can like whatever I can do without it. I love rice. Oh my god. Do I love rice.
When you go hog like full hog on something like cheat, cheat night. Yeah. What do you do? I'll take what I did two nights ago. I'm going to the door and we have you go to these. You go first. I pulled out of the fridge. I have this like mixed berry. Well, it was like a very cookie ice cream or some shit and like do you feel like how when you crush an entire pint of ice cream? Like I feel like I just like a sinned beyond belief.
Yeah, it's been a while since I've crushed the whole pint of ice cream. My weaknesses are super clear. My weaknesses are cheesecake. If so my question for any weight staff is from one to 10, no seven loud. How good is your cheesecake? If they give me an eight nine or 10, I'll do the cheesecake. There's cheesecake and then there's carrot cake. So this is my two. Oh my god. But it has to be super moist and the icing has to be really, really, really good.
I also can't have big chunks of carrot in it. If it has big chunks of carrot, I don't care. Like carrot cake is joke. It's fucking cake. Right? I mean, right. I've got huge chunks of carrot. Like I'm not bugs, Bonnie. I don't need. Yeah, I don't have a carrot. Some people do that though. I've had some fucking carrots in there. I'm not I'm just like why is it chunks of cream? I'm not into the same. No.
So those two I will always go for pint of ice cream and look if it's in front of me, I'm sure I'll eat it if I've had especially two drinks like two glasses or more of any drink like tonight. Like tonight. Martinis. You mentioned martinis. Is it an old fucker thing that they end up turning to martinis? Cause I have become more and more interested in martinis as my
Oh my god. Dude. So here's the deal. Dude. Martinis. The thing that is so beautiful about them is that if you order it correctly, it is spirit clean. So it's not like a heavy. Like there's no sugar. So here's what I do. I say, give me a gin martini. I typically go with. I like the less botanical gins. Yeah.
So I'll do a poodles or something that that's just like less botanical and then I'll add in two olives. And I'll say extra dry extra cold. And then you're good to go and just a tiny bit of vermut. So on the dry side, rinse the glass with for a move. And then so it's mainly gin and you got this couple of olives in there and you're good to go. What is your opinion on espresso martinis? I mean, I only do is it like my friends bachelor parties.
I'm gonna be out till 2 a.m. Cause like otherwise caffeine fucks me like. Yeah. Men hadn't speedball. Yeah. I love espresso martinis. I gotta be honest. Dude, they're really good. If you're on a date, go to town, son. Yeah. That's a great way to go out and have fun. I'm back on the field. I'm not the young man I once was my she has been diminished. I need to compensate with caffeine. Tim, you got to move out here. Dude, like this is like fertile ground. You got to come out here. I don't know if I can.
I can deal with it. I don't know if I can deal with it. Honestly, it's too intoxicating. It's like how much time do you want to spend falling down the rabbit hole with Alice in Wonderland? I mean, it's it's intoxicating. Do you think they're all kind of can we believe something out of us? Yeah, of course. Do you think they're all. Do you think it's like. Are they all that type of person or do you think it's like? No, I think this one. No, good people. No, no, no, no, she's a bad person.
I said, it's gonna be amazing. So I think there are amazing people. It's just you have to really wade through and sort through a lot in LA to get to the signal. It's very hard. What do you look at it for? What are you looking for in a relationship long term? What do you like top go to's like what what do you want? What I want? I want someone with don't say physical. I mean, the physical matters. What's not fucking lie? I know you want to I know I know what you want. I'll get Daria.
Daria takes very good care of herself. Right? Like that's dude. She works out to her. It's like that's not trivial. She's very and it's for her as much as it is for you. But it's yeah, it's a significant. It's not for me. It's a significant thing. Right? Like the physical practice is a significant thing. So there's that. I mean, I like strong.
I mean, physically attuned women. Now strong doesn't mean big. I'm not looking for a crossfit games winner necessarily. But like someone who is very physically attuned is important to me. That's important to me personally. It's important to partner outside of that. I mean, I think that I'm looking for someone who is has a clear sense of identity.
It's a direct. Direction because that direction may change. But if someone doesn't have a clear demonstrated ability to focus for at least a few years, I find that the relationship becomes this nitpicky project. Well, you don't want them also just like hanging on. It's got to be their own show too, right? They got not show, but you know what I mean? They got to have their own shit going on. They have to have their own shit going on.
How should we wrap things up? I got way more things to talk about. But I know we've been going for a while. I mean, I'll add one. All right. So let's take a departure from one more each. Yeah, sure. So I'll give one. So mine is an app. You can find it on browser on laptop as well called Aero low AIR A L O, which is for cellular data overseas. And it is the easiest.
Most reliable approach that I found to cellular data overseas. So if you're going to any country, you can buy a cellular data plan, even if, for instance, my case Verizon may not support or I can help you here. I got a better solution than this, but go ahead.
Well, I can't wait to hear the case of Verizon. Yeah, they want to upgrade you quotation marks. Yes, all the time to like a unlimited data plan. But the cost question is open for me. So I've used Aero low, which I have been very happy with up to this point time. So what's your better alternative?
Here's something that most people don't know is that iPhones in particular, and I believe Android phones as well, they can support multiple Sims. And at this point in time, it's they're called eSims because you don't actually need to. So Carlos and ESim. Okay. So Google Fi is just insane because internationally, they give you coverage in just so many countries. I don't have the exact number, but I put on a secondary plan.
So there's two things this helps you with. My main plan is Verizon. And I use that for data because they have good 5G. I use it for my main phone number. No, sorry, I don't use my phone number. I use for data.
I use my phone number at Google Fi because it's protected by two factor authentication, all crazy security of Google Fi. So Sim swaps are very, you know, they just can't happen because there's not not a person to call to trick it into doing a Sim swap. You have to actually log in with your Google account.
So use that at Google Fi is your main number. Change the data to go to Verizon. So you get the good data package because you can do this in the iPhone. So walk me through this just to backup. So let's so I have a Verizon account. What do I do? Okay. So you want to transfer your number to Google Fi? How do you do that? Okay. Google Fi on the website will walk you through it. Okay. Google Fi is not going to give you the best data. So what you then do is you say, okay, Verizon.
I love you, but you're going to be my data only plan and they charge like $20 a month or something for it. It's data only. Okay. So that's your E Sim that is data only. And then in the settings, you say, where do you want to get your data from? And you say, I want to get it from Verizon.
And then you got the five you network in the United States. You're good to go, right? And then your security of your main phone number is locked down by Google Fi. So that's the most secure place that you can have it. Then when you go abroad because Google Fi has all of these international connections.
It's like over 200 destinations. They say they have coverage on it's insanely cheap. Like the data plans that the cheapest are out there. Then you go into your phone settings and say, switch my data from Verizon to Google Fi. So now your Google Fi all the time when you're international and one phone. You know how to switch phones or anything. And so I have this like little two bar thing that goes on to show you two bars on your phone when you do both of the plan. So it's great.
I love it. Boom. So what is the infrastructure of Google Fi? How are they providing that data? They use multiple providers, but it's mainly T mobile in the United States. But it says that all plans include US, Canada and Mexico,
unlimited plans and flexible plans, data and 200 plus international destinations plus 5G and select countries and their 5G country, let's just keep scrolling and growing. It's great. Man, every time I've ever fly anywhere international. I just turn on Google Fi and I get like the highest speed. It's fantastic. It's so inexpensive.
Amazing. I'm on it. All right. So I'm taking notes to folks. All right, Kevin, you said you had one more. Do you have you have some last one. I've got a bunch of investing related stuff, but you can get that on my podcast Kevin knows com. The link to podcasts at the top.
But I would say the last thing, which is the absolute no brainer right now screw buying individual bonds that rates are changing all the time. Vanguard, and this is not investment advice. This is just like me saying what I do personally. When I do my bonds rather than do bond funds or crazy like medium term or long term bonds, we don't want to screw with that given more rate.
That V U S X X is the Vanguard fund that I use and I think it's a no brainer in that it's 100% treasury base. So they buy US government treasuries. It's short term bond fund. There's no federal tax on that because they are United States Treasury. So the only state tax.
So all these banks right now are being like, Hey, look at you four and a half percent will give you four percent blah, blah, screw that you go and put your money in those banks, not charging you both state and federal tax on that even though maybe seem like a quote unquote high interest yield.
You go set up a Vanguard account by this fund right now in this obviously changes day by day. No, that's my advice again right now it's 5.32% compound yield on Vanguard with like the smallest management fee. And they're just buying US treasuries. You're getting 5.3% with no federal tax like home run is just a no brainer. So that's what I'm doing on the bond side right now.
Everything else index invested said it forget it except for in video. I also think that there's some upside in an AMB potentially on low end AI side. Wait, what hold on said again. Do you say in video? I think yeah, yeah, GPU things going to three trillion. I think it's going to do plutonium. It's like the new arms race. Listen, AI is the shit. It's not going to wait any time soon. It's not a fab. This is not VR AR bullshit.
This is really going to change the entire world in video is the dominant player in this space. The stock if you look at it, it's it's like scary as shit because the run up has just been like the most insane steep climb you've ever seen. I think long term is going to the three trillion dollar company. You know, it's it close to two hovering at two right now. This is a growth play. This is not an angel investment.
I hold some just because I like to hold a few individual stocks. I think AMD is a good cheap play for this. They still have a pretty high price to earnings ratio. And they also I met with a good friend of mine that's a insanely smart PhD from MIT that is one of the earliest inventors of a bunch of AI sold this company to Apple won't name him, but he told me that the problem with AMD is they have a underdeveloped software stack for AI.
But they're rapidly trying to fix that because that is the biggest issue that AMD has right now. AMD is like way cheaper than Nvidia right now. So if I was going to like say, OK, I've got X number of dollars for an AI play two things. Dollar cost average your way in soon, not buying the high and not buying the low. You're just spending a fixed amount of money over six months or so.
Like slowly work your way into the market. If you don't know what dollar cost averaging is Google search it and then AMD would be like if I put like 75% in Nvidia, but 25% AMD and I invest my vice. TSMC is the manufacturer of all the chips. The SMC makes and video chips, AMD chips. They are the backbone of this entire world when it comes to manufacturing, CPU GPUs.
The biggest concern there is around Taiwan, hotly contested China issues. I don't touch it because I worry about China. I talked to my buddy, my buddy that's really, really deep on the A side, one of my most trusted advisors on the I side. He said that this was a big shocker to me. He told me that Facebook invested in AI a few years ago and bought up some of the best engineers in AI.
He would not be surprised if Facebook unveils some crazy shocking amazing AI tech in the next six months to a year. And so I trust him. I'm not buying Facebook stocks. I think they're fucked up for a whole bunch of other reasons. They're spending way too much on VR and AR. But that was I opening to me in the other two's big players is Google and Amazon.
Google is only showing a little bit of their cards right now, not revealing the whole thing. Bard their AI is insanely insanely locked down. The real bar behind the scenes. If you're at Google, it's a 10x improvement or what they have publicly available. It's a lot better. I'll give a wink. Yeah, it's a lot better. Yeah. Last thing, Intidoy Nintendo Super Mario Brothers, second highest box office sales and of all animated films, the Super Mario Brothers amazing movie.
They're sitting in a fuck down of IP. So a nibble for me is Nintendo. I nibble because I see them playing with Universal Studios. Could they be the next Disney? I don't know, man. Zelda could be the next Lord of the Rings. There's a lot of IP locked up there in Nintendo. I think that can be interesting. That's fun. Yeah, for people who are for me, whoever wondering also Nintendo way back on the day Nintendo used to make Nintendo initially initially made trading cards.
Hanafuda trading cards in Japan. They still make so Oishi. Yeah, Oishi. Delicious. They're just beautiful and delicious. Delicious. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's Kishi. What's Kishi? Very beautiful. All right, man. Well, well, fucking I we've covered a lot. That was great. I see you buddy. Yeah, good to see you brother. This was fun.
Anything else you'd like to say Kevin, you're going to point people to the new podcast. Yeah, I mean, just if you if you had to Kevin Rose calm, it'll be at the head of their I'll make sure it's up and I appreciate you all for listening. I promise them wild crazy moments. It's a fun stuff. So yeah, thank you for doing it. Kevin is very, very, very, very good at his format. So check it out.
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