REPLAY: The Pride and The Power

previously in history. In Season three of The Thread, we trace the origins of a revolutionary and even dangerous idea, non violent resistance. We witnessed how the idea journey through the minds of some remarkable individuals and across the globe for nearly two centuries to become a powerful agent for social change. In episode one, which we are republishing today, we began that story in Birmingham, Alabama, with the unexpected success of America's most famous proponent of non violent protest,

doctor Martin Luther King. Junior King and his fellow civil rights activist face any of the same issues and dilemmas we are seeing play out on the streets of America today. The fight to reform unjust laws or conduct is never easy or simple, but it can lead to momentous change. King compared the civil disobedience he was orchestrating to the

Boston tea Party. He argued, quote, we are in good company when we break unjust laws, and I think those who are willing to do it and accept the penalty are those who are part of the saving of the nation. It's may the eyes of the world are on Birmingham, Alabama. Hundreds of Birmingham's black residents, including scores of teenagers, pour into the streets in their church clothes on a warm Sunday afternoon. Birmingham's police chief, Eugene Bull Connor, watches the

scene unfold. Connor is a burly white man in his mid sixties, slipped back, gray hair, horn rimmed glasses. He looks a lot like the warden from the Shawshank Redemption. In recent days, the frustrated Connor has turned to police dogs and fire hoses to put down the stream of protesters, and he has drawn national attention to himself and his city in the process. The marchers are given one more

chance to turn around and disperse, they refused. The angry Connor whirrels and shouts to his men, damn it, turn on the hoses. Many protesters take to their knees, prepared to stand their ground peacefully against the coming onslaught. But what happened next is not what you think or what you may have seen in the black and white photos

of protesters, dogs and fire hoses. What happened next surprised even the man behind the protests in Birmingham, Martin Luther King Jr. What happened next, or the dogs that didn't bark, the fire hoses that didn't spread. What happened next was what doctor King called the pride and the power of non violence. We are so we have to five. We got to all the gods that we got all up.

I'm Sean Braswell, and this is the thread. Each season, we unravel the stories behind some of the most important lives and events in history to discover essentially how one thing leads to another. To do so, we travel back through history, one story at a time to explore the origins of an important event, an iconic figure, or a

big idea. This year marks the fiftieth anniversary of the death of the iconic civil rights leader Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. And so in season three of The Thread, we explore the origin of a revolutionary idea, one very near and dear to the heart of doctor King, the principle of non violent resistance, the counterintuitive notion that the best way to reform your enemies is to love them, the best way to counter their blows is to absorb them.

King established the use of mass nonviolent protest on American soil, but it did not begin with him. We'll take you on a journey through the minds of some remarkable individuals and across the globe. This season on The Thread, we find out how a single powerful idea can spread and remake the world. When Martin Luther King Jr. Was fourteen years old, he had a formative experience aboard a segregated bus.

King and his high school teacher were on their way back to Atlanta from an oratory contest in southern Georgia. They were asked to give up their seats when two white passengers boarded the bus. The teenage King stood and stewed for hours at the back of the bus. He later recalled quote, it was the angriest I have ever been in my life. Twelve years later, a forty two year old seamstress found herself in a similar situation, but his history has well told. Rosa Parks refused to give

up her seat and his fate would have it. The now twenty six year old doctor King had just accepted a job as a minister in the city where Parks took her famous ride, Montgomery, Alabama. Mrs Rosa Parks was arrested and taken down to jail, taken from the bus just because she refused to give up a seat. That is the young King addressing reporters about the events unfolding in Montgomery. A boycott of the city's buses was proposed

four days after Parks was arrested. This is David Garrow King, biographer and the Pulitzer Prize winning author of Bearing the Cross. That's when doctor King debuted as the lead spokesperson for this new citywide bus boycott effort. It has been moved that a second that that the resolution that red would be received down a dollar. Are you ready about the question all in paple that had been known by standing on your feet. King and his wife Coretta woke up

early on the first day of the boycott. They watched the bus stop near their house from the front window and looked on in amazement as bus after bus passed by. Most of the busses contained that a single black passenger. Red was the day, and we started a bus protest which literally electrified the nation. And that was a day when we decided that we were not going to take segregated buses any longer. King saw a powerful social movement

come together before his eyes. For several weeks, now were the Nigro citizens of Montgomery have been involved in a non violent protest against the injustices which we have experienced on the buses a number of years. Soon the boycott went from weeks to months, and Montgomery's white community started to press back. This is historian John Demilio, So imagine a protest like this developing in Alabama in n segregation is the rule. Um. White supremacists have no reluctance to

use violence to keep African Americans in line. Uh. They lynch people, they shoot people, They're willing to burn houses. They will do anything that they have to do. King quickly became a primary target for that violence. David Garrow again, Dr King gradually becomes a more and more visible figure in local Montgomery news coverage not long thereafter. Uh, there's a small bomb that's detonated on the porch of his home when he's out at a rally. It breaks some windows. Uh.

No one, fortunately is injured. An angry crowd had gathered outside Dr King's home by the time he arrived back. They refused to obey police instructions to disperse. King stepped onto the front porch. He asked them not to retaliate, then, referring to the people who had nearly killed his wife and child an hour before, King told the crowd quote, I want you to love our enemies, be good to them,

love them, and let them know you love them. And you can see in his remarks that evening how his fundamental Christian belief in a in an ethic and dawn of love, even love for one's enemies, uh, is at the very core of his being. Finally, Montgomery City leaders agreed to the protesters demands after a community of more than fifty thousand people had protested for three hundred and

eighty two days. Montgomery's buses would never be segregated again, and King and his allies had launched a powerful new form of protests in America. Non violent resistance give passive resistance means just passively accepting violence and injustice. If it means cowardice and stagnant passivity, then that is a difference. Because non violent resistance that there is resists, it is

dynamically active. Governments think it's a dangerous idea. It's a cherished notion of government that they have an exclusive right to violence. This is Mark Kurlansky, author of non Violence, The History of a Dangerous idea. If your opponents are violent, uh, and you're violent, you're playing to their strong suit. Whereas if you're non violent, you're they don't really know what to do. Uh. And that's what happened with the civil

rights movement. King's non violent approach transformed that movement. Before the Montgomery bus boycott, the U s Civil rights movement was based in the North, with organizations like the n Double A c P, which won the landmark school desegregation decision Brown Versus Board of Education a year after the boycott.

King and several other Southern Black ministers and activists formed the Southern Christian Leadership Conference or SCLC in nineteen fifty seven, and that's when the center of the civil rights movement began to shift to the South, and so the black religious leaders like King, who waged a new war of

non violence David Garrow. The lesson of Montgomery was that local black communities, just ordinary residents citizens could take meaningful action on their own against racial segregation without waiting for leadership from New York City. Dr King was a unique personality because he was a conflict resolver. He acted as a lubricant and a persuader to get people to compromise and do things in keeping with his tradition of the

non violent techniques. This is Timothy Jenkins, a civil rights leader who helped organize students sit ins and other nonviolent protests during the nineteen sixties, and he was an advocate of techniques of persuasion that did not revolve around force or arms or threats, and that led to I think a unique character to it this movement as opposed to normal political movements, because it was not a test of power and the test of authority. It was a test of moral suasion. But it was a test that did

not always work. John Demilio again, Dr King had been and supporting protests in Albany Georgia in nineteen sixty two for much of the year, and it was a very frustrating experience. Um in part because the sheriff in Albany, Georgia, had the foresight not to respond to these protests with violence, and so the protests didn't capture headlines. The Southern non violence campaign stalled by the end of nineteen sixty two.

In many ways, non violent protests depends upon violence from those in authority to succeed, and King knew that the movement needed a confrontation to regain the nation's attention. Mark Kurlansky. He realized that, you know, resisting non violently would only work if people saw you doing it, which is how King and the SCLC came to be in Birmingham, Alabama, the most segregated city in America in early nineteen sixty three. Birmingham has one of the most brutal white sheriffs in

the South, John Demilio. Again he went by the name of Bull Connor, which tells you something about how people perceived him. He was as determined and fierce as a bull. Here, the animated Connor in a white shirt and black tie defends his actions in Birmingham you can never with the boy if you don't keep you in him separated. I

found that out blaming him. You've got to keep the white and the black separ King and local black leaders were banking on the fact that Connor would take any means necessary to ensure that Birmingham's races from and separate. The demonstrations began during Easter Week nineteen sixty three. About fifty supporters turned out for the first march on Good Friday. After four and a half blocks, the marchers, including King, were met by Connor's officers, placed under arrest, and taken

to the city jail. For the next few weeks, the demonstrations did not have their intended effect David Garrow. Initially in Birmingham, King and SCLC had a good degree of trouble in recruiting black community members to participate in protests. Connor and the Birmingham police remained restrained, avoiding the media attention that King counted on, So a new tactic was adopted. Leaflets are circulated in Birmingham's black high schools urging students

to join the next demonstration in Birmingham. They decide to mobilize young people, not young adults, not college students, but high school students and younger and that gets a lot of publicity, and at a certain point, Bull Connor and the police just lose it and they start beating people and arresting them on mass police arrested more than five students in the first two days. The jails were full,

and Connor's patience was running thin. He unleashed the police dogs and ordered the fire hoses be turned on demonstrators. Water from the high powered hoses tore the clothes off some protesters backs. Photographers and television cameras captured the brutal attack. Images of police officers beating protesters, a teenagers getting slammed against walls by water, and if dogs snarling at young

girls made headlines across the country. Many whites in the rest of the country, we're going about their lives not even noticing that this was going on in the South. Well, you couldn't not notice this, And so Birmingham really brings the civil rights struggle up to a new level of visibility. But perhaps the most remarkable part of the Birmingham story happened on that Sunday afternoon in early May where we

started this episode. The protesters many on their knees, braced themselves yet again for the Birmingham police to unleash the dogs and the fire hoses. Bull Connor himself gives the order for them to do so. Then for the next thirty seconds, something astonishing occurs. Connor's men do nothing. Slowly, the protesters stand up and continue forward with their march.

Doctor King later described the scene. Connor's men as though hypnotized, fell back, their hoses sagging uselessly in their hands, while several hundred Negroes marched past them without further interference. It would prove to be a defining moment for the civil rights movement, and for King, it was an eye opening event. As he later wrote, I felt there for the first

time the pride and the power of nonviolence. The nonviolent movement had taken the struggle to the heart of the Jim Crow South and to the forefront of the national consciousness. King was thrilled. The activities which have taken place in Birmingham over the last few days into my mind marked nonviolent movement coming of age. David Garrow again, the images and impact of Birmingham convinced both of the Kennedy brothers that they needed to finally move forward with a meaningful

civil rights bill. That's the real tangible impact of Birmingham longerst passes the most sweeping civil rights bill ever to be written into the law, and thus reaffirms the conception of equality for all men that began with Lincoln and the Civil War one hundred years ago. The summer of nineteen sixty three was a revolution, King later said because it changed the face of America. By the time it was over, hundreds of lunch counters, hotels, parks, and other

public places had been integrated. King and his nonviolent movement continued to win victories and historic legislation over the next few years, but not without cost. King led a march for voting rights in Alabama in nineteen sixty five that resulted in what was called Bloody Sunday. Armed police attacked King and other peaceful demonstrators as they walked across the

Edmund Pettis Bridge in Selma, just like in Birmingham. Television carried the beatings to audiences across the country and the world. Mark Kurlanski again, you know it it worked in a way that I don't think his opponents understood how well it worked, or they wouldn't have done things like the Petest Bridge. You know, the power of people seeing that all over the world. King's non violent campaign was working, but he sensed that violence still bubbled just beneath the

surface during the turbulent times. Here's King on Meet the Press in nineteen sixty. Realism impel impelled me to admit, however, that when there is justice and the pursuit of justice, violence disappears. And where there is injustice and frustration, the potentialities for violence are great. Are those frustrations, and the potential for violence would grow with the nineteen sixties war on Up next, we dip into the shadows of history to meet the remarkable man who inspired Dr King's non

violent approach in the first place. Men for years now have been talking about one peace. But now no longer can they just talked about it is no longer The choice between violence and non violence in this world is non violence on non existence. That is where we are today. Good evening, Dr Martin Luther King, the apostle of non violence in the civil rights movement, has been shot to

death in Memphis, Tennessee. Dr King was standing on the balcony of a second floor hotel room tonight, when, according to a companion, a shot was fired from across the street, and the friend's words, the bullet exploded in his face. Martin Luther King's legacy is inextricably tied to the non violent approach he championed, but the civil rights leader was not always opposed to violence. As a seminary student, he expressed skepticism about the virtues of pacifism and non violence.

Even in the opening days in the Montgomery boycott, King had not yet found his non violent voice. Mark Kurlansky, it's kind of funny the way he's portrayed today, especially in schools, you know, as as just this kind of dreamy guy who's about peace and love. He was a very determined political activist who eventually embraced non violence because he became convinced that that would work. And one man above all others convinced King that it would work. But

King would have to make some changes. First. Let's go back to Montgomery. It's February ninety. King's house has just been bombed David Garret. As the Montgomery bus boycott begins to achieve national news coverage, um civil rights supporters around the country begin asking themselves what they can do to assist of the Montgomery protesters. One of those prominent northern activists was a forty three year old black Quaker from

Pennsylvania named Bayard Rustin. A longtime advocate of nonviolent protest, Rustin was concerned by what he saw when he arrived in Montgomery, so at the beginning there in Montgomery, even though Doctor King believed in a Christian doctrine of love, his interest in nonviolence was not such that he was prohibiting black community members from standing armed guard. After King's house was bombed, armed men kept guard out front each night.

Byared Rustin came to King's home shortly after the bombing, but Byard himself is is taken somewhat aback um when he sits down in a chair at Dr King's home and realizes there's a gun in it. King explained that they did not intend to use the firearms or harm anyone unless they were violently attacked. This is Rustin biographer John Demelio again, and Rustin explains to him that if you want to be modeling non violence, you can't possess guns.

You actually have to live out completely the philosophy of non violence. That was just the first lesson Rustin would provide to the young King. The weapons and armed guards were removed, and so Rustin become ms his tutor and instructor. And really, within the space of a few weeks, it is not an exaggeration to say that in terms of the strategy, tactics, and philosophy of non violence, Buyard Rustin

becomes Dr King's most trusted and closest advisor. The tall, cosmopolitan Quaker and the short, eloquent Baptist preacher made for quite a pair. It was to be one of the most productive relationships in American history. Rustin immediately recognized kings raw talent and potential as a leader, but knew he

still had a long way to go. Dr King justifiably has become such a heroic figure and so closely associated with non violence and a mass movement that most people don't realize that at the time that Rustin meets him in the early stages of the boycott, R King knows about non violence, but he has no training in it. He has no direct experience in the tactics and strategy of a non violent movement, and so starting in Montgomery, Rustin and King had lengthy conversations about non violent principles,

organizing tactics, and strategic thinking. Rustin even started ghostwriting some of King's speeches. King could not have had a better tutor. Many in the activist community considered Rusten to be quote the American Gandhi. It was not hyperbole. Every fiber in Rusten's being was dedicated to the principles of non violence. Here's Buyer Rusten, I said to begin when you were not like what I am saying. Those people who think that we can use guns and knives against tanks and

buzukas they are in ignorant buns. In the next episode, we learn more about King's mentor buy Or Drusted, the remarkable individual responsible for the March on Washington that launched King's dream, a gay man banished behind the scenes of the civil rights drama, but who still managed to change the course of American history from its shadows. We are so jes in the army. We have to find. We have to fry. We got to all the good. We've got to all it up. So Jess, We've got to fight.

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