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You find us in the media garden and we're going to be recording this one in two parts. So this is part one introduced beautifully there by Soman Chanani, a children's author David who you've got to know a little bit and who's come to mean quite a lot to you and your family. Yes, my daughter is an enormous fan of Soman and his book series in particular, The School for Good and Evil, which she told me you had lots of tennis references in it.
And when I heard that, I thought that was really cool. So I dropped him a note and told him that my daughter who obviously has links to the tennis world because of me, she was a huge fan. And it turns out he is a tennis podcast listener. And so I was just incredibly thrilled and delighted about that as well. And he sent a lovely package of stuff to my daughter all signed. How lovely is that? So he's a legend.
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That's TP upgrade at checkout full details in the newsletter as always. Now our day started today Matt with a wonderful experience over by the Levazastand. And I'm not just talking about the $10 iced coffee that I very much enjoyed. And in fact I've got no right to complain about the price because we did not pay for ourselves.
No, that was lovely dawn who has been a long time listener and friend of the tennis podcast and I got word. Rumour was spreading on the barge of a 10 am Levazastand meetup. And it just so happens that that is on our way in. And it dovetail brilliantly with my desperate need for coffee. Yeah, so we stopped by and the meetup was happening and it was absolutely lovely. We all had a half an hour chat about all things tennis and theatre.
And then everyone very much had the same plan which was heading to Armstrong for an Isom over against Junction when. Matt saw somebody from afar in a tennis podcast t-shirt and I saw him decide, well I assume they want to meet me. So over he charged and the next thing I could see because I remained in the coffee line obviously unprepared to give up my space there. Next thing I saw was Matt being hugged and greeted like a rock star. So yeah it was an absolutely lovely way to start the day.
And of course everybody that we we met over by Levazast was headed to the same place and that was Armstrong Stadium for the first match of the day on their Amanda Rannesome over against Junction when. One of the picks of the round one match up and other than the result from Matt I don't think it disappointed 4 6 6 4 6 2 for Junction when RIP David's predictions will come onto that in a moment David. It was all going so well Matt for Anisome over until Junction when found herself.
Yes Catherine you actually checked that I was okay on the way to this match because it was a very different way of starting a grand slam. Normally at the 11 a.m. when all the scores appear on the app I like to be at the desk in front of the screen but I was taking a new approach. I was very demure, very mindful and decided to focus on the one match.
It being Amanda and I'm over and quite frankly she should have in 6th level because she was 5 1 up but she'd also had triple break point in the in the game that she hadn't won. She was doing all the things that we know she can do so well rushing Junction when taking advantage of the Junction when serve stepping in playing really nice tennis and. The problem is though when she was 5 1 up it then got a bit messy to be honest and even just losing those 3 games in that first set.
Kind of let Junction when back into the match and even though Amanda and Isemo have rendered up winning that first set on her fourth set point. The feel of the match had changed it all been on Amanda and Isemo was racquet through the first 6 games but it just started to change. Junction when got a foothold and started playing better and then there was this bizarre moment in the second set where serving it to all.
Isemo over touched the net on a shot that should have been just an absolute gimme but it was awkward because Junction when return had flown up in the air landed on Amanda and Isemo over side and had backspin so it was coming back onto Junction when's own side. I was looking reaching and trying to just put it away and Isemo over took one step too far and touched the net and she ended up losing serve in that game and falling down a break in the second set.
From then on Junction when really stepped up and as you said served a lot better in the second half of that match. Her serve had been a real weakness in the first set and Amanda and Isemo over was attacking it but then she started hitting a lot of aces finding the corners and when she gets that shot going it just sets up her game so well. She started to get an Isemo over moving and Isemo over we saw the remnants of the blister problem that she had in Canada.
They were still there, her foot was heavily strapped. She also had a bit of a wrist issue in that third set when she hit a slice at one point and felt her wrist. Quite frankly as the match went on Junction when was the better player and deserved to win but yeah it was a tough way for me personally to start the US Open seeing my backhand fav losing on Armstrong but Junction when I'm pretty impressed that she's managed to come through that.
That was a tricky round one and scheduling slot and she did very well. Matt and I parted ways on the way out of Armstrong Stadium because I wanted to go and get some lunch. I've got a preferred lunch, it's my go-to, I think I might be getting it every day for 14 days. So I went off to get that and on the way I was stopped by some lovely, lovely pod fans and a couple of them said to me we did see Matt but we looked sad so we thought we'd let him go. The man's in mourning, what can you say?
I too was impressed at how Junction when turned that match around and yet I also wasn't that convinced by her prospects generally here. It was messy wasn't it? I do have my heart and my mouth a bit a lot of the time watching Junction when. Me too and I do think the Kerber match at the Olympics has slightly changed how I view Junction when in those matches.
I used to think when her game was off and it could get messy she was probably unlikely to win but she showed so much grit in that Kerber match and obviously then ended up beating Shfiantec and then ended up playing one of the best matches I think she's ever played to win the gold medal against Vechich.
So I think that's maybe a little bit of a turning point in her career that match and this was message she didn't have her best game yet she fought through it and found enough of her good level to come through.
She was three love up in that third set double break and this time over got one of the breaks back it could have turned again and yet she didn't let it and she's she is I think grittier than I've given her credit for in the past and once she got her serve working that that really did help her today and this time over didn't really know what to do when she did get it working and yeah like I think we all thought and maybe this leads us on today with predictions like we all thought the winner of the match was going to win the gold medal.
And we all thought the winner of that first round had a chance to go deep here we knew it was tough for both of them and honestly I thought anissom over would win because of her form on the hard courts and you know the first set was bearing that out but Junction wins the one who who's ended up winning and now she's got to be liking her prospects I think in this torn.
I know people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and Matt and I very much live in predictions glass houses fully aware of that however we do think this is the first time any of us have lost a finalist in the 11 a.m. slot on day one David. Well since Jabur. So sorry CS since Jabur. Who did you but oh who did you. My Dylanette. All right okay on the Sunday and who predicted Jabur to do big things.
I'm pretty sure I had her in the fine. I did too. Well I what I would request that you do Catherine is send your mind back to you an Australian open about 10 years ago when we did back to back emergency podcast to discuss the loss of one Martin Del Potro after I said he I think he would win the tournament and he lost in the first round but I don't think it was 11 a.m. slot on day one.
It was pretty bloody early and then Patrick of it's obviously lost because she was always my Achilles and Amanda and this is over a step up as the player to fill their shoes.
So yeah look I'm I am throwing how many is this for tonight we know this I've got friends just to offer in the final beating no back to your children the way I've got a Lena Rebecca who's done the square root and nothing for about three months winning the whole thing in the women's draw so that's who I am in the twenty twenty four years open and we've had a minor blue punter.
Well that was happening over on Armstrong we had Coco Gough kicking off obviously that they start an hour later on on Ash don't they and in fact Ash matches went quickly today and they were done by about three thirty there's been a big gap in between day and night sessions all that's really a pelker walking past us do we think do you think he's just lost to the most of loss because they must have been quite a one sided fifth set in that way.
Well he served for the fourth set and got broken and Mazzetti's then broken him again and ended up winning the fourth seven five. Back to back breaks of the appellka serve no wonder appellka looked a bit dejected. That's a big win for Mazzetti. That really again like I said within this moment and Jim when like that felt like a tricky first round for Mazzetti but now he's into the tournament like he could he could do some damage. Could easily have lost that a year ago.
Definitely. I feel like you know he's made strong. He has made big strides because it's so easy to just sort of sleep walk your way to defeat wouldn't it against a big server like that. And it was a messy match wasn't it that was a really weird match and I don't you know he's a very stylish player isn't he I don't think he would necessarily have enjoyed a match like that so I think that's pretty impressive all in all back to Coco Gough.
She was taking to Arthur Astrash Stadium opening up Arthur Astrash Stadium at the tournament obviously last year's defending champion. Vavora Gracheva who Matt and I declared tricky officially at the start of this match and I stand by that I think she is tricky to. Took a set off English film tech just a couple of weeks ago. 626 love is a school I know I didn't really see any of the second set because I was detained elsewhere.
David I know you did watch quite a bit of it from your commentary position on ash did watch quite a lot of the first set and I thought it felt a lot closer than 626. Yeah that was the thing I took from it as well the the first handful of games that were break points that Coco Gough was having to save and just just stylistic lemon I was watching.
Gough practice with brand gil before the match before any of the play got underway at all on Arthur Astrash Stadium he was standing in the centre of the service box sort of on the on the tea there just hitting balls to either side quite a lot of them
under spun with with backspin on sort of slice forehand to her back and then to her forehand and lofting giving different looks as if he was expecting at a half little quite a lot of shifts of trajectory to have to deal with and early on I did think you know I've still got all these weeks leading up to this tournament in my mind where frankly she's looked to anything but convincing and suddenly she found it out there.
Now this may be against a certain time a player a certain level of player it may just be for a single day but suddenly it looked convincing it was a completely different look to what we've been seeing in recent weeks and then she was very open to say that actually it is very different
from the master in the press comments well what is different and she said my perspective and she referenced on court that she'd even seen a comment in her tick tock saying you know what's the worst that can happen you're already a champion you've already done these great things there's nothing to worry about
I have shifted in the last week my perspective to stop being so hard on myself and to stop expecting that I have to do it now and that it has to come and we've heard a talk like this before about certain events where she's gone in and just felt pressure a lot of itself imposed really or she's heard things on the outside that have translated into her feeling on the inside tense and suddenly she doesn't look tense.
So last year she was thanking the haters for fueling her us open now she's she's thanking the people sending her love on tick tock that's positive. It is positive and if she can continue if she can successfully walk that tight route then good luck to her she's a stronger person than me because my feeling is if you if you don't want to deal with the haters you've got to not read the comments
because if you're taking the positive on board I'm always like well if you can listen to the positive then you'll listen to the negative as well like my advice would always be don't read the comments but she's obviously determined to read those comments and trust herself to filter and take from them what helps her which is pretty impressive I would say like I think that's a dangerous tactic but she is impressive. So I'm sure she'll nail it.
And she said in her pre-tornum press conference that she felt she was practicing a lot better here than she had been over the past few weeks and obviously you don't know whether that's going to convert to the match court I remember you know that was always a big thing that Andy Murray would say wasn't it like he would this year he would find himself practicing well and not being able to translate it to the match court
whereas a lot of times in his career he might not practice well and he would end up actually playing quite well so you can never know but she did seem a lot more kind of positive about her own game I think leading into this tournament as she had done over the last few weeks and like it could have been a bit different today I think those first those first couple of games were very nervey and egggy and she did have to save some some break points she came up with a great backhand pass to save it and you know there was still quite a lot of double faults out there today but we're going to be able to do that.
She's got a lot of faults out there today but also quite a lot of ACEs as well like she was finding ACEs at timely, timely points so look I think she can get a lot better than this and she's going to face tougher opposition I think everyone's kind of been circling Alena Spitalino as a potential third round opponent and Spitalino was in trouble today but did end up winning in three sets so that match is still potentially on and that's probably the one where I think we'll get the biggest gauge of the golf match.
As I said in the preview pod like she's been struggling against top 50 players and Grychew is just outside that but Spitalino is very much in that sort of bracket so let's see but I think that's a good good start for Coco Gough and hopefully she can keep building.
The Wimbledon champion just marched past us on route to her match court which is of course court number five which is just behind us and is small it is it is small it is it's not where she should be she did miss the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever today and post a map to the court on her Twitter which is is a shame because I would have enjoyed that so much but I do wonder she'll have anything to say.
About that after the match or whether she would have been so burned by the big four thing that she she will avoid it well she would be well within a rights to so it's absolutely well within a rights and I hope she does. Wimbledon champion it'll be interesting yeah I mean she was just led she had to sort of wade through a crowd of people none of whom were clocking that it was the Wimbledon champion incidentally she had an arm sleeve on which
you know everyone's got one of those these days so we won't read too much into it but obviously we will we will cover that results and anything she has to say in the press conference room afterwards in part two as staying with the women's drawer in part one we watched a few games of Taylor Townsend eventual six to seven five victory over Martina Trevysan couldn't stay for longer than that because the press seats on the
court 17 where this match was their wonderful press seats there practically on on the tram lines aren't they but throughout during the daytime when the sun is out you are I mean the sun is fully beating down on you and it's it's pretty tough to sit there for any length of time.
It's it's the moment that you or I certainly realize just what these players are having to endure and and be prepared for and and run about him for several hours I mean we lasted what seven games sitting there we do have plans to go back there in a little
while it's time but they are magical seats because you that is where you get the full sense of of what these players can do how hard the ball is being hit how quick the reaction times have to be I mean this was Taylor Townsend against Martina Trevysan and we were sitting right next to Trevysan's coach I think and hearing all the dialogue and dog David yeah lovely dog very Billie Jean-esque called Brando
I was I was very concerned about the welfare of that dog in Taylor Townsend's plight to finish this match in two sets was a was an animal welfare issue for me because that I mean the dogs can't cool down I was really could I was at risk of attempting to rescue a dog with an owner for the second time in a week tried to do that last week when Matt and I went out for brunch
and yeah one minute you're going for brunch the next minute your brunch companion is googling local dog shelters never a dull moment anyway it did finish in straight set Townsend was great she was a real vibe about they get so much support here and you just love to see it and I hope Brando is okay
Townsend now plays power libidosa oh when's that well in two days time excellence on there and Badosa absolutely destroyed victory a golly bitch today yeah that was six love six three I think and just a very dominant display and in keeping with the tennis
Badosa's been playing this summer she really has been playing well but Badosa Townsend is a is a yes please second round because you put Badosa's great form up against towns and vibes and you know actually Badosa loves New York as well she was born in New York wasn't she
I think she gets a lot of support here as well but met her ex boyfriend on the streets of New York I believe on the streets I got that confused with Muguru there is a tennis player who made a model boyfriend on the streets of New York surely it can't be two that's all she
definitely didn't meet Stefano sits a pass on I think she met one better court on Instagram because that's where he spends all his time yeah I should meet someone on Instagram DM's David DM's they didn't have Instagram in 2000 when I met my wife few other women's results for you from the day session Madison Keys is still playing with that very heavy thighs trapping from that really upsetting injury she
sustained at Wimbledon but she was great today straight sets very straightforward over Catawena Cinear cover she now plays Madison Keys Maya joint who is an 18 year old Australian American born Australian born in Michigan she qualified here so this is her Grand Slam singles debut she beat Laura Seagman today on her Grand Slam debut apparently she's she's quite talked about as a prospect she has committed to playing college tennis this year for the University of Texas the Long Horns
I've heard of them so we could be in a Diana Schneider Australian open 2023 situation where you know she goes on a run she has to decide between prize money or keeping her commitment to play University tennis so essentially an interesting story there in Maya joint she plays Madison Keys next just finally on Cinear cover and she attempted some very important journalism regarding Catawena Cinear cover and came up short but not due to lack of effort
yes emphasis on attempted because I went to try and get the latest on my hatch and Cinear cover whether they're still together so I went to my check source he needs a new check source people I got shut down I may no longer have a check source but tomorrow's another day that's I want to
reprise and there are a lot of check journalist because they've got so many players so I think we just need to to to mine new territory yes because normally we're sat next to a check journalist but our seats in a slightly different place in the radio room this year so we're not next to him anymore though he doesn't seem to be here either so my two check sources have have spectacularly let me down today so I will I will try for the people
to do some hashtag journalism as this tournament goes on all I can tell you is that I don't think Thomas my hatch was caught side but I don't think he was a reliable presence courtside for her matches even when they were confirmed to be a couple so I wouldn't read too much into that all I've got is that on his Instagram story today he reposted a podcast not ours talking about
their golden moment at the Olympics now the podcast discussion was very much are they on or are they off so it was very much in keeping with how he's been impressed they are they absolutely have they know what they're doing they've got me on a string yet they really do well that means that they must be together then because I can't think so if you heart if one of you's heartbroken neither one of your stars flinging around
or they've broken up but they realize that their earning potential as a couple is it's far higher than a part sort of love violent winner style you've got to make the year if it's over maybe the one who kind of wants it to still be a thing keeps trying to put it out there to sort of sort of
will it into existence and and it's one of the need to do journalism yeah well perseverance Matt yeah this isn't over folks I mean cinearch of his singles tournament is but but Matt's attempted journalism is not a couple of other women's results for your future women will in champion you will in Neymar knocked out Dernier Stremsker 6 4 in the third maybe she's a future US Open champion Hannah let us know there were a combined 150 plus unforeseen in that match according to the
Stremsker matches that carry 100 that she's in a three set match yeah one of them was in the 70s and the other in the 80s and the winners column like wasn't that you don't need that do Marie Sackery retired in fact this is the first result of the day of the whole tournament she retired with a neck injury
trailing one year fan I mean Sackery's having a tough phase of her career isn't it may turn out to be a tough kind of tail end of her career I mean when was the last time she had a grand slam result of any note it's brutal and she has spoken in the past about
wondering whether she wants to carry on you know in in previous years before things picked up I do feel for her I hope I hope this is near to I hope there's that there's another stage of her career that's a lot more positive than the one that's going on at the moment because what things like
break points did and I think we knew even without that just because the way she kind of communicates her feelings on the court is she experiences this sport so viscerally so so heavily and and it I I hate the thought I've had just been in in in devastation so often yeah absolutely um men's results most of them will be covered in part two of the show because a lot of the significant ones still to come in but we have seen the end of Dominic teams
grand slam career today we know he's going to play Vienna that'll be his final farewell but I think that really will just be a farewell pretty much as today was quite frankly it was it was dead man walking vibes out there wasn't it as you said David it was an occasion rather than a match 64 6262
Ben Shelton beat him today really classy touch from Ben Shelton totally recognizing the moment and make sure making sure Dominic team had the moment that he wanted and that was what he wanted he was totally happy with that just being an occasion he wasn't interested really in it in it being a match
I'm sure he didn't want to be embarrassed out there but he knows he hasn't got it anymore absolutely and I found it really sad he he took the mic on court um just before he was presented with a framed picture collage of his best USA pin moments and he spent most of his time talking about
how sad the happiest moment of his career was because of the circumstances in which it happened mid pandemic nobody there and he said I feel like you know today I got to have some of what I was denied that day in occasion in front of fans feeling love and appreciation and I'm I'm pleased that that means so much to him and that is a comfort to him but I don't find it much of a comfort I find it really sad to think that that was Dominic teams
what turned out to be Dominic teams career highlight and it happened like that and I think he'll probably end up being one of the the biggest pandemic sliding doors players you know what does his career end up looking like without the pandemic I think he hasn't got that US open probably but he does have a French open and maybe lots more besides yeah I do think that's true about the sliding doors moment I guess I I think with time separation from it I'm hopeful that I'll remember
how spectacular he was to watch in there how much how many gasp see induced from us and crowds certainly wasn't as decorated as I ever thought he would be I thought he would achieve a lot more in terms of numbers which is interesting because he said in his press conference today David that he achieved a lot more than he thought he was interesting well I think he certainly he he actually elevated himself to a level that maybe at the time before I didn't think he would but once he had
it just felt like he cracked his game and and his game hurt his game inflicted damage on the very best players in the world and there aren't that many that can say that about playing against the big three or four in the world the their game stood up and hurt the opposition and and his did he beat Jocovic playing lights out tennis you know he he beat the others in big matches it it is sad that it didn't
sustain because of injury and then and also he talked quite a lot about the psychological effects of the injury and even the psychological effects of the post victory the US open the way yeah that sort of mental low this psychological low and I think that gets a bit forgotten in the team timeline actually because it wasn't physical injury initially that did
mean that his results dropped post winning the US open as you said it was a it was a kind of low after winning the US open and he didn't quite I think he thought so hard to actually win the US open when he finally won it was kind of like well what now sort of who am I as a tennis player now going forward and then he got the injury and he said he said today that the feeling in the
forehand never came back after the injury which is something that we've thought and kind of heard I'm not sure I'd ever heard him say it quite so explicitly as that and yeah this this last four or five years of Dominic team's career is just desperately desperately sad but I do think I actually always associate him with the US open in a way obviously I know because he won it but
actually because of 2017 you remember on on Grandstand he lost to Del Potro from two sets up but then he came back in 2018 and that was the first time I actually thought Dominic team could win a Grandstand other than the French open he made such strides on hardcore in that year between 2017 and 18 I remember he played Kevin Anderson here in 2018 who'd been a finalist year before and suddenly he had a block return and he was able to diffuse a big serve and then he played in the
Dahl in one of the best matches I've ever seen over five sets absolutely extraordinary. It was stunning and then in 2019 he comes out and wins Indian Wells and like he just made all this progress on a hardcore and then weeks just try and open final and then
eventually wins the US open and I think that again gets a bit forgotten the way that okay he was super close to winning a French open and ran up against Raffa and the Dahl but the way he improved on a hardcore I think was really admirable and just spoke to
hey what a great game he had that it could transfer surfaces and be just the perseverance and the hard work that he put in and you know also working with Nicholas Masou who was who was here today on on on Ash which was like lovely but also just I found the desperate to see when you showed me that picture I wasn't prepared for that and I yeah it was quite shaken by it just like you know being at your own funeral your family and friends showing up
Yeah that was the feeling it was a gut punch but like team and Masou did so much good work together to especially as I said on on hard courts I think to kind of and form here and such a positive vibe like just a really healthy positive uplifting player coach dynamic and and also was important in helping team schedule himself a lot better remember back in the day he used to play every single week and the good
into the into the reasoning and they built this you know physical strength but he wasn't scheduling himself like a top player and then he and then he started to and yeah I really do think that he rinsed a lot out of those
years but kind of battered up against you know Nadal and Garas and Jacovic at the Australian Open probably the two toughest people to be in men's tennis history in their favorite places and yet you do have this nagging sense of they could have been more because of what's happened to him since the US
Open so there's there's this two two very distinct halves to Dominic team's career and I think what we've seen happened to a lot of players who've said there's going to be an end point you know I'm thinking Danielle Collins this year I'm thinking Serena Williams you know they've kind of said there's going to be an end point and then kind of had a bit of a second win like Dominic team has not had that at all
and it's just there's nothing left like it is the right time. He's had barely any win since he won this title in 2020 it looking back now I know I've convinced myself that there have been gusts but really if it would have told off the table if it would have said that to ourselves back then that would be the case or to him I mean the shit you never would have thought we would have thought we would have seen
inconceivable obviously he's just one of Grandstand but he still seemed like a relatively young man we were talking in terms of how many he's gonna win we were saying three or four and that didn't seem silly you know in the post I thought he was going to end up with an Andy Murray type career Yeah that row in terms of like Grand Slam Hall
yeah I really did. That felt like something not the end. I will miss peak Dominic team and I have been missing peak Dominic team for the last four years I've really there have been times and I've really felt the absence of Dominic team at the top of the game but I feel like I've already grieved it you know I'm not going to miss the Dominic team we saw today unfortunately
but I am I'm pleased that he's more at peace with all this than I am. Yeah he was talking about what he wants to do next and it wasn't that specific but he's been very passionate about sustainability for a number of years and he said he wants to continue moving
into that area and trying to make a difference in the world. Well good luck to him good luck to Dominic team we absolutely wish him well in his retirement which will come officially after the Vienna tournament in six or so weeks time there are lots more results to be covered today they will be covered in part two for now though I think we need to head to court 17 where Holgeruna is 6241 down to Brandon Nakhashima the result of that and plenty more on the other side.
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Well welcome to the other side part two of the day one US Open 2024 tennis podcast the other side being tennis podcast hours New York which we arrived at via a rain soaked jog through the streets of Manhattan rather unexpected not sure rain was in the forecast but that is the situation we found ourselves in and
and dealt with with relative degrees of of a plum. I say the other side it is 1143 PM as we come to you here and there is still tennis happening at the Billie Jean King National tennis center it wouldn't be tennis if there wasn't still tennis happening at 1143 PM. Arena Subbellenca the second seed is currently a set and three one up on the Australian Qualifier Priscilla Hahn on Armstrong and on Arthur Ashtadeem Noah Djokovic leads a radio album also a qualifier 6262
and with a break in the third set so we are confidently predicting no upsets in these two matches that are still on court and we will be covering them in due course but I feel like we should start with where we left off from part one which was Holgeruna and what was at the time an impending
upset at the hands of Brandon Nakashima. Well it was very very impending because well as our Danish sources told us Holgeruna is on the verge of an explosion and we got to witness the dragons of that explosion on court 17 David. Yes although I don't think that that's what they had in mind when they said an explosion I think that they meant in the positive sense but it was I mean actually an implosion was probably a better way of describing what we witnessed
and actually when we went out to that court he was 623 love down and then he got he got a game on the board and got a break point in the next game and I remember thinking this was just before we finished recording part one and we were going to go out there I was thinking this is a really good
opportunity for him to wrestle back control of this match and establish himself in this draw against a player in Brandon Nakashima who's been playing well the last few weeks it's a rough draw on paper you know it isn't one you would want a player who's been winning a lot of matches and is so
solid but still Holgeruna is a class above when he's at his best that that's how I went into this match thinking and and Catherine you and I went over to the court and sat on court 17 where we literally sat on the front row on the side of the court that's where the press seats are I mean it's an incredible vantage point the only downside is that there were a bazillion flying ants in the in the vicinity but really that's not what was what was bothering Holgeruna
what was bothering him is in the entire three-set match he got 39% first serves in the court I mean that is abysmal I would go as far as to say that was an unprofessional performance really and the very least he was he had no form
I mean maybe he was trying his heart out it's difficult I certainly wouldn't accuse him of tanking but to go through three sets and win so few games Catherine have so few looks on the on the Nakashima so I think he had six break points didn't win any of them but he was just completely outplayed and
it and this is a guy that we've been talking about as being at the very operational of the game potential wise yeah I mean I I personally wouldn't question his effort at all I do think he was absolutely trying his heart out I don't think he really knows any other way but I I do find it staggering how someone that talented can be that bad yeah that's it I think his coach was equally complex though it was it was it was it's from a simple flexing is the
word now I should say I was watching this through through this warm of flying ants and I was finding it quite off-pussing but and look I wish it also should say that Holgerina's never beaten Nakashima in three attempts now and you
know how much you read into to that head-to-head their their most recent previous meeting with Shanghai last year that was love and two for Nakashima and the one before that was in the next gen finals in 2021 and I don't understand how to read scores from next gen finals so I don't know how to tell
you who won what sets in that but Nakashima won the match but that doesn't count in the head-to-head it doesn't count so yeah they played once before Nakashima won it love and two so maybe Holgerina has a Nakashima problem which I would suggest he try and address but I don't think a player that good should have as bigger branded Nakashima problems he has who he played great and he played smart today Nakashima really really smart and Runa played the opposite of smart you
know there was no problem solving out there it made me think of all the things that we always say about Holgerina what is this guy's identity as a tennis player if you had to sum up and you know if you had to do an elevator pitch for his game what's he saying and actually we sat we were sat there on the front road David and I was sat next to a security guard who had watched every single point of this match we were jolly com lately so aren't we joining midway
latter stages of the second set when you know the ship had pretty much already sailed for Holgerina and this security guard sits down next to me and is swatting flies on my behalf and he goes Holgerina lashes a forehand into the net and
security security guard tuts under his breath he's American but he's definitely a secret Runa fan and he goes been Holger versus the net all day and I said oh I thought I've got a tennis analyst on my hands here so I said is that been the story of the match and he said oh yeah you wouldn't you
wouldn't believe he said and then and then another arrow was coughed up by Runa and he does some you know gesticulation towards his box box and he goes he thinks that it really goes way too in his head that dude I thought you should start a tennis podcast mate and then he said so I'm already thinking this guy should be the one with the podcast and then and then he said this should have been a redemption match for Runa against Nakashima never beaten him before but instead
he's getting Shanghai'd wow their previous meeting having been in Shanghai and I thought do you want to be a guest and he could swap flies so yeah that that's my potted summary of Runa crashing out to Brandon Nakashima it is
that's a horrible draw but it was that's an embarrassing score line nonetheless 2-1 and 4 yeah it is a horrible draw Nakashima not only has been winning a lot of matches he's been beating very good players he's beaten Tommy Paul and Taylor Fritz over this hard court swing and now he adds whole
Runa I sort of think we're at the stage where we need to be changing the language we use around whole Runa potentially and how we think of him as a tennis player this might be an us problem as much as as much as a whole Runa problem he is lost I've just just pulled up the stats 15 of his last
18 matches against top 20 players and we always say stuff like at his best or super talented and I sort of just think tennis is so rarely about that you know and if you take away that one incredible week that he had in Paris where he beat so many top players he has not done
anything close really to kind of warrant being put in that discussion alongside the very best players right now like I do agree with you his slam record three quarterfinals nothing more and there were bad performances in those quarterfinals I don't know why I'm positioned as Runa a
polygist in this debate like I agree with you I'm not writing him off I'm just saying I think we need to change the way we think about him right now because I have the same thing I still go into these tournaments thinking Holgerun can bring it and is a threat in the latter stages but he's got it all to prove not he does but it's got a show the I test but he's not even passing that at the moment which is kind of what I'm saying no not in terms of outcome but in terms of
how his game looks it looked appalling I don't think it looks that good right now like as you said what is he as a tennis player I don't know what his patterns are I don't know how he builds points I guess I mean technically like I should be so much I don't see any flaws the result of it right should be so much better because what's that to go wrong yeah the strokes look good that's the most damning with Frank Prays sentence there has ever been yet look I agree
with everything you're saying it's time to it's time to reframe but I guess when somebody has you know if you've had that week in Paris at the age of 28 we'd have said oh nice nice little bonus peak over a decent career but you have it why when Lubich it wouldn't be well right or um Jack sock one Paris the Russian player that one no Indian Wells randomly sort of late on in her career and you're like that's great well done it's not the start of something
though whereas do it at the age of 19 or 20 as Runa was and and it's okay we've moved we've moved the bar upwards for what we expect if you but he hasn't been clearing it since then you're absolutely right and I guess I it's also because
of the circus that's been going on around him in his situation with with Patrick more toglim and everything I guess you just think right well as soon as everything settles down and he reaches some sort of harmony then he'll be in a situation to produce his best results but some players never find
harmony and decision-making on and off the court is a huge part of being a tennis player right you're a successful tennis player and he's making bad decisions and you know maybe his mum still make his bed for him I I don't know but it's whatever he's doing isn't isn't working so so long Holgeruna and it feels like he needs to say like so long 2024 like I know that's it easier said than done you know like they want to play and they want to earn and all
that kind of thing I understand that but we know that he's played through injuries and nickels and it just feels like he needs a break and a reset and to try and just get some time like with his coaching set up now as it is and not shopping and changing and just like try and commit a chunk of time to actually try to improve as a as a player because I agree like I do think he can like I'm not not writing him off at all he's got so many potentially good
aspects to his game but we're just not seeing them right now and beyond like taking a break I can't really see how he just gets out of this kind of cycle that he's in does it does feel like he's on a hamster wheel of doom at the moment doesn't it avoiding the same fate Francis Tiafay survived a scare on Armstrong again stays countryman a New York local Alex covered Chavitch and he was in a real match here Francis Tiafay wasn't expecting to be we weren't
all expecting him to be after he went two sets to love up but my goodness me was he in trouble in that third set yeah it was going the wrong way quickly and Chavitch is a is a real shopmaker he's got a single hand in backhand I don't necessarily think he's that reliable and hence why the first couple of sets were were pretty comfortable really for Tiafay went out to that match for a while and there was a general level of disinterest from the crowd I felt
throughout a lot of it there was there's a sort of concourse area around it where lots of lots of food stalls are and people are there who aren't really watching the matches at the particular time they make a heck of a noise there's such a sort of hubbub around and and generally I mean look but there are people sort of wandering in and out they've they've changed the rules this year I asked the Usher about it because the people while the match is going on
points are going on they're just people walking everywhere down the the stands and into the seats and the Usher told me that the rule change is that they are allowed to let people carry on coming in and out throughout the first point and then once that point is over then they have to stop people going down but it gives them a bit more time and it's interesting it's interesting as a change and I think it's it's a good one but in terms of a match when I left
that match it was sort of midway through the second set the idea that it would become competitive would have seemed frankly ridiculous but when we got back here to the apartment suddenly come actually which has turned into
Roger Federer for about half an hour and he's hitting half-folly single-handed backhand's office toes for clean winners just just wowing the crowd get in them totally engaged and Tiafair I don't know what you thought Catherine but I thought Tiafair looked quite rattled towards the end of that
foreset as though as though gee you know I've coming with all this confidence and I'm feeling so good and now I'm not feeling good and now I'm really worried well he also wasn't the man was he I mean Kavachavic was producing some you know Algaraz Federer-esque
trick shots for a bit then as you say you always had the question mark over the sustainability of it but he stole the show and he really got the crowd with him as as I said he's a New Yorker so that you know there was that element going on and that's just not a
situation that Francis Tiafair was comfortable in particularly here at the US Open this is this is his place this is his backyard and I don't think he was in a comfortable situation there and I think that does make it all the more impressive that he he found
way through and found way through without it going to five sets because yeah I thought I was big too if felt like it was going to five to me it did yeah and he also spoke about not enjoying the muggy conditions as what he described once the roof went on sort of end
midway through that third set right through the end of the match and as David said he just looked a bit uncomfortable really and better a roof than a rainy jog is I would argue sprint I was I was going to take exception to the word job as well what I witnessed from you was
full on sprint thank you it was caught on camera ununbonones to me and it is on our Instagram stories if you want to see my sprint through Manhattan with a with a pit stop at the wine shop absolute stitch up being packed at the wine shop anyway it's all on our
in-stitch up which you they put on Instagram anything for content I just made it available so Tiafair survives and plays chef Chenko next a jog of which is just one incidentally incredibly comfortable and straightforward for him against Redo Albot a real a real mismatch quite frankly I mean
well done Redo Albot for qualifying for this tournament but just I mean it would have taken I mean Matt said earlier even if the jog of which chairs is meniscus in that match I still back him to to come through is that yeah I stand by yeah I mean he won the set against
Surunderla with a tall maniscus exactly so jog of which is three faces Lazlo Gerr next I don't like jog of it against fellow Serbians always don't like the US open last year and it went to five sets Gerr was two sets to that and there was really unfun five sets there was a very small
moment where I thought wow this might be happening and then as soon as Djokovic won the first game of the third set I thought this isn't happening and is it the reason you don't like him them is because they're all they all reverium or something yeah I think there's
such a power dynamic going on there is much as they try and psych themselves up it's I think they're defeated you can't overcome that or I think it's in their bones isn't it and totally understandably but I just I don't like matchups where there's or and where there's a feeling of kind of
inherent in it I like to think that no matter how improbable in in reality the upset might be that the person hoping to pull one off really really believes in their bones that they can and I'm not sure Lazlo Gerr does no I don't think so either probably
and it's not going to help his cause seeing his opponent walk on to court with two enormous gold bags it's quite statement which is what Djokovic is doing so on on kid's day comes on to court wearing his gold medal very into that I would wear my gold medal too and also like a medal is a really cool thing isn't it and you know everyone wants to see a medal and hold it and see the light glinting off it no one's into a gold bag it was a bit like what Federer used to do when he was
winning Wimbledon every year and he never bespoke out for it he was the first ones to do that I didn't like it then some people love it some people not so much I think it's crass yeah I hated that Federer card again anyway we'll see the bags again I'm sure against Lazlo Gerr
take a frittimateber teenie set up a second round clash today with there with their victories and nothing much to report from their wins today but just I'm interested in that second round match up and glad that has been set up arena sabbelenka currently is set in 4-2 against Priscilla Hahn this is a classic sabbelenka all on her racquet matchup isn't it and actually Priscilla Hahn is is a far better tennis player than I realized but it is these are different weight classes of tennis player
aren't they and sabbelenka plays well and she wins but it is I always think of what you say Matt about sabbelenka sabbelenka and the pressure of a whole match being on your racquet which is how sabbelenka plays every single tennis match yes exactly that the onus is always on her to be
making things happen and there's you know which is a tremendous advantage really that she's got in that she she can kind of dominate any opponent that she plays but yes I do think it comes with pressure when you're not playing that well you know because
you're still the one making the plays it's not like she's got much to sort of fall back on and you know she doesn't have a mode where she just waits for her opponent to make mistakes you know jokovic yes he has those of lockdown mode for arena sabbelenka
I think she's playing well enough tonight that you know this isn't this isn't going to be a problem but yeah like how can you play your best really when you're waiting around all day and you're following a best of five men's match you've got absolutely no idea what time you're going to come on
it kind of goes back to that super Saturday US Open Relive episode we did where the where the women's final for so many years didn't have a direct start time and we heard a lot of quotes in that about how that did affect the quality of the final one where another there was a lot of one sided straightforward matches when that was the case and okay that had the added pressure of a final but I just really don't think women should be scheduled after a
best of five men's match at night you know you just don't know there's such a huge window when you might be coming on and I think both of these players have dealt with it well this has been a pretty a pretty good match but it's not
surprising to me that sabbelenka has not been at her absolute peak and also very just very different conditions to you know super fast in Cincinnati and the heat of the day and now playing at night at the US Open is always going to be an adjustment but yeah she's looking like she's
going to start her quest for a first US Open title pretty pretty well and I think the final women's match we should cover off was the the headline match of day one in the headline slots certainly Sloan Stevens the the champion here in 2017 taking on the French player
Clara Borel and Stevens managed to lose this from six love three love 3015 up it was I mean we watched the latter stages of this here in our apartment with commentary from Mary Carrillo and Lindsay Davenport and it was almost quite eerie and uncomfortable from them in commentary having to
talk about the latter stages of that match because it was pretty horrible stuff from Sloan Stevens really if we're being frank she just lost it all together and Mary's closing words upon match point were where did she go why did she go and and that really sums it up it's very difficult to
put your finger on how a player goes from six love three love up playing beautifully and then closer to the finish line still from there and doesn't get the job done now obviously your opponent is part of that too and well done
Clara Borel for turning it around but really what an experience a horrible experience that must be for Sloan Stevens you must want the ground to open up and and and Swolly to just take you somewhere else because you know she's got 23,000 people looking at her national tablet
television and she's the the center of attention and she's just lost it all together yeah rarely have I seen a match go from looking like it is going to be so brutal and horrible for one player you know Clara Borel as you said six love three love down in 35 minutes
prime time night session slot that was on course to be quite humiliating for her and then for it to switch so dramatically the other way by the end and it end up being such a humiliating brutal defeat for Sloan Stevens you know people often talk about sort of what aspects of your game
go when you're nearing the end of your career and the two that I hear a lot are nerve like your nerve goes and I think Stevens got extremely tight in all of the moments where she was you know on the cusp of victory she served for the match and the second second
got broken and then kind of like I suppose it's linked to that but like your footwork and like she just wasn't moving her feet in those crucial moments perhaps because she was nervous but not getting up to the ball and when so and Stevens isn't in position it just doesn't
doesn't feel right you know she's such a great mover around the tennis court that's it's kind of what she's traded on for so long being able to move and be in the right place and she looked just kind of static and stuck and therefore the shots you know she wasn't in the right position and there
was a lot of unforced errors and Borel on the other hand stepped up and started hitting down the line a lot better and I think sense that Sloan Stevens was kind of by the end they're all bit there for the taking and or it was it was a brutal watch yeah it's pretty
sad seeing someone that was a champion on that court leave the court the way she did as you say like a touch of humiliation really yeah that that was tough um critique of a one by the way out on court five seven six six six two against marina bassolls rib bearer so she lives to
fight another day hopefully get a better court and hopefully get a better court yeah we will we'll follow that closely and that's it for day one as arenas sabbelenca serves it out six three six three against priscilla honnagave a really good
account of herself today but uh sabbelenca just overpowering her in about an hour and 20 minutes total tried to do some math on the spot there and uh ended up trying to bluff it she places leachier bronzetti next she's in the madison keys section of the draw it's i think that's
a good draw for aena sabbelenca good section to be in it was sabbelenca and keys who had that extraordinary close match last year wasn't it where keys really should have won and uh and was just distraught in her press conference afterwards i remember
she was great today madison keys but she does have that very heavy strapping on her thigh so i don't think quite know what to think about where she is but i do know that madison keys does her best work when i am writing her off so won't be doing that in a hurry uh that's it for day
one i think day two tomorrow's gonna be gonna be a stonker i think armstrong is the place to be isn't it that is that is where we'll be stationing ourselves for a large part of the day but of course we'll follow the stories as and when and where they arise all of it
with bruno our lovely mascot alongside thank you a lisser for sending through epic bruno content apologies to the memory of dearly departed darwin i i think i had one of my worst ever predictions you did today yeah absolutely stinker from me
david frances i mean i've been a disgrace today um blushes spared by frances to you for i would say and uh hydrant soma with mat i think you got the your expression says you got points today mat she's annoying oh to kazoo he's got some hair going on as auto kazoo um
billy jean is sponsored by billy jean king and elana closs we have top folks in executive producers they are gregg chris jamey and jeff and it's over to mat for some shout outs we have Laura jones in syncinati hello Laura a great tenis city syncinati although congeversation it's not actually
syncinati where the tournament is held as it's mason but i don't want to take take that away from laureate in her glorious shout out moment and laureate's given us a fact oh good work that she's from medina oh hi oh which is of miracle fame well the same hometown as vicki nelson
who in 1984 played and won the longest point ever in professional tennis a 643 shot rally that took 29 minutes epic truly that's longer than that game that alchoraz and jock of it's played it wimbledon last year crikey well that's sensational Laura how can we possibly add to that Laura robson yes
Laura Seagland lost today lorica lasser the tennis player named from the very long past thanks Laura you enjoyed that didn't you rap just so i know what counts as the long past roughly what what era are we talking about 80s i remember playing i think chris ever set wimbledon something like that
well we go from one person in ohio to another because we have elana leader bark in valley city ohio hello elana is this just so i know is this an ohio special a high old day on the tennis podcast it isn't but we have had back to back ohio shout out we have elana
de menti over no i'm not sure that that's elana isn't it same spelling that oh is it i'm right oh so is this elana then no she has oh phonetically written elana elana okay vessneena i'm all over this she thought i was thinking of within your miles earlier oh oh we see we randomly run into your
miles late-tish and well late in her career i did spend about 48 seconds trying to work out who you meant and then i forgot about it and nobody thought oh she's you know this is the start of her winning in new miles is everyone just said that's nice that's right thank you elana elana says that
valley city is the frog jumping capital no not into that does that mean actual frogs i think there might be a festival of frog jumping yeah i've got a bit of a problem with frogs and totes i think it's pretty cool myself i'll come yeah okay thanks elana and finally we have
suzan v from montreal oh another tennis city and suzan says i spotted catherine when i was at the tournament in montreal as a spectator in 2019 but was too star struck to say hello since then i've been volunteering in the media center at the tournament
but you haven't been anymore no i haven't hopefully one day that'll change i wish i had cizan because i love that tournament and i had a great trip there in 2019 that was my second time in montreal and i loved it and i'd love to go back one day like suzan long live perfect
perfection no notes suzan thank you very much so thank you suzan thank you why do i embark on this i always enjoy it when you say thank you elana thank you suzan thank you Laura never end out mat thank you to all our friends of the tennis
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