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Here we are in our glorious position, overlooking all the courts frankly, but court 18 right behind us here has just been covered, the sprinklers have been out, and it's been a treat to be overlooking that court today because quite a lot of interesting names have been practicing on it. We saw Alex Dominore hitting Wachdon by not one Huitt but two, both Layton and Cruz Huitt, unsure what Cruz Huitt's role in the whole situation was, but he was very much there.
Emraadi Karnu was out practicing there, Jack Draper, Tatiana Maria, out there late this evening. It's a good spot to be in here, isn't it? It's very good, and now at this time of night we have it all to ourselves, which is lovely as well. There were times when sometimes we come over to our desk and there's people at our desk and we have to, well, politely join them, slash, slowly kick them out.
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Right, let's talk media day. We've got a few other bits and bobs to talk about today as well. I've been subjecting myself to an annual practice session. I'll offload that trauma on to you all later. We can have a shared therapy session.
But let's start off with the main, me to the day, which is media day. Where all the players come through the main press conference room and come up and come through this area up here as well, which is where all the various different broadcasters, a station, they do sometimes in-depth sit down interviews, sometimes they're doing fun little skits for social media.
Over my right shoulder here, Daniel Mevvedo was doing an interview with a child and that looked like it was going to be adorable content. So yeah, it's all been happening today folks. And we've seen pretty much all of the main movers and shakers. The only two big names held over till tomorrow are Andy Murray and Marquetta, Vondero, she'll be there.
We'll be there tomorrow and of course we have a show tomorrow. So we'll let you know what they have got to say then. But I think we should start with today with Arena Sabilecka. Former semi-finalist, of course, on the face of it, a lot of people's pick for the title. I think Mac, before she sustained that injury in Berlin, she was looking like she was going to be your pick for the title.
Well, she came into press today, it has to be said with an incredibly sunny, relaxed demeanor. And she had that throughout and she's been showing that same demeanor across social media this week. Hasn't she been putting out dancing videos and general merriment across the board. But she said very directly to a very direct question, I am not 100% fit now.
She said, I'm doing everything I can with my team to try and be ready for my first match. But I asked her outright towards the end of the press conference. What is the injury? And she confirmed it was a shoulder injury. She pointed to this area at the back. Back of her shoulder there, I'm sure any medical people watching or listening will know what that's called. But you'll have to settle for a diagram for now.
She said it doesn't affect her ground strengths at all, but it affects her serve big time. And she said there was a big chance pretty much that she won't even be able to take to the court on Monday. And I was pretty shocked by this. I we all were intending to ask her about the injury. It's the first time she'd ever retired from a match when she did that in Berlin. But I was not expecting her to kind of drop the bombshell that she might not even be able to compete at this tournament.
Yeah, and I think there was kind of two ways you could read that retirement in Berlin. The fact that it was the first time she'd ever retired. And kind of the hopeful take was it was very much with Wimbledon in mind. It was just, okay, I've got a little bit of a niggle, but Wimbledon's on the horizon. I'm going to do everything I can to be 100% for that. Or there was potentially more negative take and what now seems to be the case that it's a real problem.
And there's a reason she'd never retired before from a match because she's not had a problem like this before. And yeah, she spoke about how it kind of feels like a lot of the time that she's not injured because she can do everything. She was talking about how she can lift weight still and obviously hit her ground, folks, but just on the serve she's in a lot of pain. And I thought she sounded a little bit, you know, obviously short term Wimbledon is a problem.
It sounded to me like they've a little unclear like how it's going to sort of get better anyway. Like she sounded a little bit lost in terms of what the outcome of this injury might be looking ahead. And she spoke about not wanting to jeopardize the rest of her season.
And if you think about it, she's not playing the Olympics. If she were to pull out of Wimbledon, she does now have a chunk of time before the US hardcore swing to try and get to the bottom of this injury and try and get over it and try and find a remedy for it. Because right now she's a little bit lost and yeah, it sounds pretty concerning for her participation at this year's Wimbledon, which is kind of a game changer for the women's draw, I would say.
Yeah, we, it's have a link, it was the first player through the main press conference room today. So, you know, it's been pretty thick and fast since then. We've not really had a chance to debrief on it altogether, even though we were all in that press conference. Yeah, this is David. I don't know what you think about this, but there was such a juxtaposition for me between that sunny, relaxed demeanor that she had.
I mean, she was on the form of her life, like quite often, Arena Sabileanka press conferences can be not that worthwhile attending quite frankly. She's pretty much always pleasant, but she doesn't always have that much to say. But this was, you know, we were all very grateful that we'd been and we've made sure that we were there.
And I just wondered, I was confused for a while, maybe still I'm confused by that seemingly being in such a good mood yet talking about potentially pulling out the tournament. And I just wondered whether it's because she's sort of not in game mode. She didn't have her game face on because she thinks I'm probably actually not going to be competing in this tournament.
I definitely think that's one of the possibilities that actually the likelihood is she won't play in her mind and therefore, you know, she's giving it every opportunity, but there might be a degree of acceptance. The felt like there was, it's either it could be one of the two extremes, either acceptance of the fact that it's that's the situation and then she's got to sort it out once she doesn't play this event or once this tournament's over for her.
Or it could be kind of shock and denial to some degree of just not really believing that this is happening to her because it struck me when she was explaining to you the nature of the injury that she was also saying, I feel so good. I feel so fit. I feel like if you tell me to go and lift weights now, I can do it, but I just can't serve without pain. And that and you can see how annoyed she was about that situation.
And I do think she could have gone through that press conference. I mean, I don't want to pat ourselves too much on the back here, but the fact is we asked the questions, are you 100% fit? No. I think if she hadn't, I mean asked it like that. And directly she just probably wouldn't have gone there and talked about it because, you know, otherwise she's happy to be here. I think she's somebody who loves competing, loves being on the tour.
And it never seems like too much of a grind for her. But then the grim reality is that she's got something that might stop a play altogether. And also think, you know, Sabel Enker's history, she's had a lot of problems with her serve. And, okay, like she did have to sort of reconstruct that serve a bit and do some biomechanic work.
And that must be a worry, I imagine, sort of long term. If there's, like she's, she's found a serve that has helped turn her into a grand Sam champion from someone who had the yips on it. Like she's not going to want to sort of mess about with that, I would have thought. So it's kind of just a risky injury, I suppose, for her career generally.
But there's, if there's something that's happened that is stopping her serving, I sort of had that in my mind as well, in terms of like, don't push it and make this worse. So, Rihanna, you reached a grand slam final without a serve. So how quickly can she just develop a great underarm serve? Right, quarantine Mute did it, didn't he? Developed it as a resulted in jury. Yeah.
But don't you just Mute, he's awesome. Right. Yeah. It is one of his best shots is underarm. So it's really good. Yeah, he's turned into an art form. I wouldn't even love to see Sabalinka do that. But two days is probably not, not enough time. And I mean, she did also speak about just the sort of suffering she's gone through in the last month. And I think referring to her illness at the Frank Chauppon and she said that took her, was it five or six days to sort of get over that after Paris.
And, you know, it struck me that maybe there'd been one or two other things that she didn't even mention in this last month. Yeah, really quite a shocking way to start media day, actually. As you said, she was the first big name into the press conference room. And suddenly I was looking at the tournament a bit differently.
It strengthens my feeling that I'm going to end up picking Coco Gough for this title as did everything she said in her press conference quite frankly and all the energy that she was emitting, which was nothing but relaxation and positivity. I thought and it was again, it was you asked the question, David about the comparison of now to 12 months ago where she lost in the first round to Sophia Kennen.
And she was bereft after that loss and she said in response to you, I wish a year ago me could see me now. And she is, she is a real kind of inspiration story, isn't she in that respect because her greatest high followed immediately from her biggest trough. It sounds like that loss here last year was a really deep low from her and the summer ended with her becoming a grand sum champion. And she said there are a couple of really dark weeks for her after that.
And look, it fed into the soul searching that led to her hiring Brad Gilbert going on that incredible run that culminated in winning the US Open. And she does, she did seem different as well here today. One thing that I noted and I think it might have been something she did on social media was this decision to walk in a bucket hat. And what struck me about that was that's exactly what Carlos Alcras did a year ago. He walked in in a bucket hat. It is just what the kids are doing. Is it?
Well, I haven't seen any other kids doing it. I've just seen those two kids. I don't know many kids. Are your kids not wearing bucket hats? No. No. They want to show off their hair. Yeah, they're sending my son back. But that wasn't the only parallel that drew between Gough today and Alcras. I felt they were both just coming in looking older, more mature, more in control, more like people that are not only expecting to be in the latter stages of this tournament. But, but almost sure of it.
There was a real certainty. Not an arrogance, just self-confidence. Is this your new Novak Druckovitch never wins in a cap theory? Everyone that wears a bucket hat does win. Maybe. The everywhere doesn't win with the beard and Druckovitch doesn't win in a cap. Yeah, I mean, the evidence is there so far, isn't it? One and zero for Alcras. And nobody wins Grand Slam in a backwards baseball cap. Is the other theory? Well, now all done. Layton Hewitt, we saw down here.
Did exactly that in 2001 at the US Open. So, no, I'm not having that. Okay. Only certain people can do it though. People that really are old enough to know better and really shouldn't be doing it yet. Looking at you, Mateo, bear it to the end. Come on, you can't be wearing that when you're nearly 30. I'm not a Grigor. Grigor's got a dispense with that thing as well. I mean, come on, Grigor. No, come on, it's true, isn't it?
Well, Jan Leonard Striff up here earlier, he's a backwards baseball cap guy as well, isn't he? And he's dyed his hair, isn't he? I would know, but he's got to bring it with a hat. Good. Yes, camera and Matthew confirming. What color? Blonde. What color was it before? Brown. Right. Show it off, Jan Lewis. I saw a photo of him and it was peaking through. His backwards cap, yes. Right. Anything else to report from Coco Gough? No, not really.
I had the same impression really, just what a great mood she seemed in and she was just radiating confidence really. But it is interesting, isn't it, how Wimbledon was her breakthrough moment. It was her breakthrough slam. And yet it has been her weakest slam. She's reached the semis at least of all the others and I don't think it's been beyond the fourth round here has been there a couple of times. But it's a plenty of room for growth still on this surface.
But yeah, I come away from media day, like in that bottom half, there's a swing omit of where am I? That's a very action week. That's very action this week. If I was over towards Abel Enka before, I've swung back towards Coco Gough, I would say, based on those two press conferences. Okay, well the other side of the draw says hi. No, in terms of who comes through that bottom half is what I'm saying. Okay, well let's move to the top half now and talk about Eagishviontech.
Matt, we're relying on you for this. I was having a traumatic experience at Arangie with Andy Murray at the time. David was probably loitering somewhere. Tell us what Eagishviontech was about. Well, it got off to a slightly tough note because the first question was about how she's not playing in the Olympics. And she said, I am playing the Olympics and that was the end of that. That doesn't do much for media day, does it? The reputation. That's self.
I asked her about adapting to the grass, you know, it was an obvious question, but I just kind of wanted an open-ended question just to see what she would talk about first in terms of what's most important to her. And she went into a bit of detail about moving on this surface. And that I think is, again, that was what App Carlos Alcarez was saying in his press conference, that's the big adaptation that's required. For Eagishviontech, it's about stopping before you hit the ball and not sliding.
You know, she spent months sliding into her shots and here she just cannot do that. She has to stop before she hits and then hits. So it's quite a big adjustment and that's something that she has to get used to. I also asked about her serve because we've spoken, well, yeah, about how she has improved her serve, changed the technique. And I don't know, she gave a bit of a rise smile actually when I brought up the serve as though she really thinks that is going to help her on the grass.
She said it's kind of one of the reasons why they wanted to change the serve was so that she could shorten some points and have it set up and then hit a big forehand. And I think she said it's been working really well in practice, but she needs to see it under the stress of match conditions. But I think it goes to what we spoke about yesterday, like, okay, she hasn't played on grass since last year. But Eagishviontech has improved and moved on and developed as a player in the last year.
She's better now than she was last year, I think. And she's hoping to bring those improvements to the grass. And yeah, she also brought up the fact that she went to Taylor Swift and field and said that she loved it so much. She wanted to go again at Wembley. Hard to relate, Eagishviontech.
But she said that she was excited for so many days after the Amfield show that they thought actually if she went to a Wembley show, she'd sort of ruin her Wimbley preparations because she'd be too wired and loving it too much. So her team said you got to prepare for Wimbley. I went for a Wembley show. And here I am, perfect. Giving your best for Wimbley. Peeking at the right time. I thought you were going to say she couldn't get any tickets.
I think if you get a personal note from Taylor Swift, you can get tickets. I'm really sad for her that her team intervened. I think she agreed, but yeah, I was like, go again. Go again. Imagine being in a position of being able to click your fingers and I'd be there every night. Anyway. But yeah, but generally I thought it's just interesting seeing Eagishviontech come in so fresh. And she said she could have maybe squeezed the tournament in on grass, but didn't want to push it.
And that's just a balance for her. Like she's fresh. It's kind of as fresh as she's ever going to be in the season, having just had a few weeks off. But she doesn't have the reps and the confidence on this surface like she does at clay. So I always think it's just interesting seeing Eagishviontech in a different light, really. And we only really get that here. And Matt Fatterman of the Athletic actually asked her directly, do you consider yourself an underdog here? Great question.
And she was like... Repairing relations with the meat here after the Olympics question. Well done, Matt. And she was like, no. She was kind of shy about it. She was like, no, I can't call myself an underdog. I like that. Yeah, that's good. Great, good fun. Are you ready to world number one? Exactly. David, you went to see Amstrad Burr in room two? Yep, talking about trauma. Oh, no. No, honestly, it wasn't traumatic. It was lovely. It was lovely.
I'm just sort of relating back to trauma of 12 months ago. I mean, she's something else, Amstrad Burr. Room two is a small room. It's maybe 15, 16 seats and right next to the top table where she's sitting. So it's very intimate. And the first thing she did was walk in and remark upon that, oh, this is a small room. I like it. And then she started to answer the questions and also said, I've been practicing on court one. And I like that. I like that more than center course.
And if I, I mean, she sort of joked about it, but she said, if only my two finals have been on there. And she was in good spirits. And she wasn't backing down from any questions. She was talking about how much introspection she's had to have with her therapist, with her psychologist. And in order to try to unravel what happened last year and piece it back together and be able to move forward. And I mean, what struck me is that she wasn't showing away from still being ambitious this time.
You know, I did sort of wonder whether maybe she's going to go the whole compartmentalisation of one match at a time. She did say that, but she wasn't about to say that I'm not only for the title because she said, you know, I still have my dreams. And I still want to, I still want to lift this beautiful trophy. You know, there's, there was no back and away from that. And it's quite, quite interesting with Jabo, isn't it?
Because it would be, I think, wrong to say that her approach to Wimbledon and, you know, laying that goal out there hasn't worked. And she has reached back to back finals. Like, the players should beat last year, you know, I think she beat Rebecca Known, Sabo Lenka, along the way to the final. The revenge tool. Exactly. Kavitava, I think, maybe as well on their strawberry run. It was. It feels to me like, she's not got, she's not got a Wimbledon problem. It's a Wimbledon final problem.
It's like, if she gets there again, it's almost like she needs to approach that day differently. And, you know, otherwise, keep doing what you've been doing. Like, it has been working here. She's won, you know, more matches at this tournament in the last couple of years than anyone. She just hasn't left with the trophy. But I just don't know whether you can really plan for that until you're there again. And there's, there's no way it's going to be on court one.
So, like, she's going to have to face, face those kind of demons from last year, I suppose. And I just don't think she'll know how she'll handle that until she's there again. I've just realised we didn't or I didn't talk about her in our draw show yesterday. She starts against Ducchiama, second round against Robin Montgomery or Olivia Gidecki. She's in Shuntec, Rebecca in his half.
There's a Yulid Neymar lurking shout out to Hannah that thinks Yulid Neymar is one day going to be a Wimbledon champion. It doesn't look on the cards right now, but it was a long range bet from Hannah. So that's valid for the remainder of Yulid Neymar's career, however long it may last. Svitilina is in that section of the draw as well. It would be a court final, I think, with Yulid Neymar.
For Ansture Burr. Yeah, and I think it is just as likely almost that she might lose early and it'd be a shock as her actually going all the way again. I think I wouldn't be particularly surprised about either of those things happening. But it was interesting when she talked about her decision not to play the Olympics. She referenced back to the knee injury that she had earlier on in this year that she said she was...
She kept trying to play through it, push through it, and that really knocked her confidence. That's the fact that she was playing injured. I remember her being upset quite a lot on court when she had that knee injury. She just said it really knocked her confidence in her ability to do the things she wanted to do because her legs just were not stable underneath her. And the reason she's... One of the reasons she's pulled out the Olympics really is to just accept that she can't play all these.
Something's got to go. She's decided that this is the one and then she'll need a break. I wonder how she'd feel about having pulled out the Olympics. Let's say she loses first round here. She can't go back on having pulled out the Olympics. She made a big point about how for her representing her country is a full-time commitment, not just about doing it at the Olympics. And that is true. She doesn't body that, but I am sad. Yeah. I understand that.
But I also think that given what she's had the last couple of years, I really get that she wants to go for it at this event. And that change in services for the players that... I mean, Alcras talked about it. He's 21 and he looks like he could play on any surface any week and be okay with it. And I think she just doesn't have that confidence that she could keep going back and forth. Speaking of confidence in the body, Emma Raddicarni today, that was mostly what she talked about, wasn't it?
That was the headline. I feel very confident in my body, she said. I'm in a really good place physically. She said she feels like she's got exactly the right balance between matches and freshness. But then she also said, if I get through my first round, I'll be over the moon because she's got a catcher in a Alexandra in the first round. And that's just the fact of being ranked where she is, isn't it?
You can be in the shape of your life, but you're going to likely play a seeded player early and you're going to be the underdog in that. And I don't know that she's maybe sending a message about, like, don't judge me on losing first round. That doesn't mean I'm not playing well or I'm not in good shape or I'm not sort of ready to have a full tilt at this. But she definitely, I felt like she wanted the takeaway for us all from that press conference to be all as well with Emma Radikarni.
She's in a good place mentally and physically. I felt like she was going to efforts to seem sort of happy and upbeat. I like to hear that. I wasn't in that press conference, but that's kind of what I was hoping you would say. Because I definitely feel like in a year's time, at the end of next year is when I feel like I would properly judge where she is in her career, because she'll have had a proper chance to be fit hopefully.
And she's made some pretty sizable decisions, hasn't she, about what she's not going to play, both of them, Rowling Garros. And I know that's not everybody's liking, but I think by the end of next year, we might all be looking back and thinking, well, fair enough, what have you gone and done? She was asked quite a pointed question, wasn't she, about... Very. Yeah, I think we're thinking of the same one. Yeah, the Tim Hemman question. Yeah, will you tell us about it?
Well, she was asked to comment on the fact that Tim Hemman had apparently predicted, I think some weeks ago, that was it both Bolta and Radikarnu would reach the second week, but Bolta would go further. Yeah. What do you think about that? Okay. She dealt with it really well, I thought. Yes, and... What can't I say? She's not as tall. I can't exactly remember what she said. She was like, oh, that seems fair, like said to me, and I think about Katie Bolta.
And that was when she gave the line about, I'll be over the moon if I win my first round. Right. And playing a seed in the first round. So there's a bit of a sort of hospital pass of a question, wasn't there? I do find it interesting how... We spoke to Bianca Andrescu a few weeks ago. There's definitely... Okay, it's been different, but there's definitely a similarity there between Andrescu and Radikarnu. Quite a big one. Andrescu doesn't talk like Radikarnu did today.
Andrescu would ever really say, be big if I just win my first round. She's always got in the back of her mind. I'm a grandstand champion. And she's always thinking I can bring that level. I find it just interesting the different ways that Radikarnu really sort of almost took the pressure off completely or tried to. And I don't know, I just find it interesting that she didn't put out a comment at all, like sort of, yeah, but I know... I know what I'm capable of. Do you know what I mean?
I think maybe it's a win-bought-in thing. Do you think that's a presentation thing, though, rather than how they... I think that's presentation. Yes, I think... I think Bianca Andrescu just told... There's no filter on how she's feeling at all. And I think it's a comment on... I think that would be particularly the case here at Wimbledon. I don't think Radikarnu would maybe be quite so trying to calm things down elsewhere. But, you know, sensibly she knows that it can kind of get out of control.
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He now looks like somebody who is to be reckoned with in a press conference room, not just on the course. You know, he really handles himself well now. There was a great line that he gave a question from Gary Nathan about how last year he'd said he was watching videos of Federer and Murray moving on the grass so that he could learn how they did it and Gary asked him whether that's something that he's doing again this year.
And he just said in a way that if it come out of someone else's mouth, you might have thought, you arrogant so and so, but because he said it, it was that, oh, that was great. And he said, it knows been watching videos of himself at Wimbledon last year and reminding himself of what he's capable of and what he did and that's been getting him in the mood for Wimbledon. And I was thinking, I mean, I've been watching videos of Alfred as well. That's like a great thing. Yeah, it can come to work.
It really works. There are some people that can just get away with stuff. Oh, he can. Cameron and Matthew is one of those people. Yes. Some of the things that he says. Absolutely outrageous. Absolutely outrageous. We let him all go. He gets away with it. It's charm isn't it? It is. Anything else from Colossal Cheras today? You made a comment when I was asking you about this press conference earlier, David, where there was a sort of... He knows he's got that charm.
He knows he's got a room for the people in the palm of his hands in a way that he didn't a couple of years ago. Yes. He would sometimes say a funny line that everybody would laugh at a couple of years ago and he clearly didn't know why they were laughing or what he'd said. A bit Nadal like? Yes, maybe. And his answers were always way too long and they would go around the house. I mean, he was meaning well, but he didn't really have the command of the language.
And he also didn't really understand, I think, what we needed and why we were asking what we were. But he was just trying to be nice in his answers. These days he gets it and this is all the maturity coming through. And I think that the same thing is happening on the court. More and more, he's not having to be told as much by one class for arrow, why things are happening. I think he's starting to feel them.
He's starting to understand them on his own merits and he's just going to get better as a result. Did you see what the guy he's playing in the first round put on his Instagram? No. I mean, it's very clear none of us can remember his name. So I definitely don't think we follow him on Instagram. Lai Al, Mark Lai Al, I believe. I'll take your word for it. That's not from Estonia. And so... Qualifier, right? Yeah. So someone had made a graphic of Alcarez's route to the final.
And Lai Al took exception with this graphic and he reposted it on his story and said, route to the final and then put something like first round by by. Oh, I like it. I knew you would. I like it a lot. He's coming to play. Is this my guy? You might be. Mark, what's his first name? I think Mark. Mark Lai Al. Mark Lai Al. Mark Lai Al. Mark Lai Al. Mark Lai Al. Mark Lai Al. Mark Lai Al. Mark Lai Al. Mark Lai Al. It doesn't sound like it. It sounds like it's a tomorrow call patch of the 80s.
I would say that the Wimbledon Draw website, if you hover over a player in the draw, you can create a route to the final for anyone. So we could right now, wouldn't be great radio or TV, but we could create a Mark Lai Al. We could reach the final graphic. Yeah. Well, easy to do. Just take Alcarez's and... We're doing that after the show. Okay. So Mark has come to play on Monday. He's got three matches, three wins under his belts. Yep. We'll see. It's a rusty Alcaraz. It's a rusty Alcaraz.
You have got me a little bit pumped for that match now. Yeah, you're about rushing. He'll of course play opening match on Centricort on Monday, Colossal Alcaraz is the defending men's champion, Yannick Sinner, is playing on court one on Monday. I think he's third on, isn't he? We'll go through the full order of play tomorrow in our preview show, 730 as well tomorrow, slightly dependent on the football, but scheduled for 730.
Yannick Sinner also has a real... ...air of success about him these days, doesn't he? I mean, of course, he's the World No. 1. He's top seeded at Grand Slam for the first time, but he just... ...he owns it all in a way that's quite new, I think. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I love the way he intently listens to questions as they're coming through. And then there's sometimes a bit he doesn't quite hear correctly or understand.
And he just repeats it back to the person in this kind of... ...what? You know, sort of... I don't really understand what you mean, kind of tone. But, yeah, again, another one who's not panicked in there. He's comfortable in his own skin. And, yeah, quite confidence about him, made it very clear. He's no longer in the fitness issues, health issues that he was having out of the friendship and a not a factor anymore. So he's right where he needs to be.
You know he's a top player now because he was very late for his press conference. 15 minutes. I'm telling you, we wouldn't have done that two years ago. I went to a full on-stuber press conference in the time that it took for him to come in. And they were supposed to be at the same time. Yeah, I don't hold it against him because they all do it, the top players. But yeah, it is a mark of swagger, I think.
Speaking of which, no matter how drunk of it, I loved how this press conference started because it was so straight to the point. The moderator was straight to the point. She said, let's cut straight to it and ask the question that everybody's here for. And no doubt, Drockovich was like, yep, shall I talk about the knee for a bit? And he did. He gave us chapter and verse on how his knee is doing.
Chapter and verse that included Taylor Fritz, Stan Verrinka and Lindsay Vaughn all in the same sentence. They said they were three players, people, that gave him reasons for optimism after his knee surgery. He said, when he had it, three-ish weeks ago, he was very much in doubt for Wimbledon. That was how he put it. But it now sounds pretty much certain that he's going to play. He said he's been testing the knee almost to the maximum over the course of this week. And it's responded well so far.
He said, I'm confident about the health of my knee and my general physical state is really good. He, as a mark of how confident he is, incredibly. He didn't talk about going round by round, I'll play my first match and hope for the best. He said, I'll use my first match as feedback for the rest of this ornament. And I was like, okay. That's where we are with Novak Dropovic, is it? We're back. Yeah, I mean, he looked as good and as healthy and as confident as he ever has really.
Yes, he knows he's had this knee procedure, but he is not worried about it one eye-oatre at the moment. Now, things can change between now when he has his first round match, but he's made it very clear that he expects to be contending for this title, based on the state of his knee right now and the form he's in and the play area he has the record he's got. I was just so impressed with him. We're talking about Al Krasn and Sinner seeming accomplished in the interview room now.
I mean, I don't think anybody's sort of become more accomplished over the years in the interview room and just being comfortable in who he is than Novak Dropovic. That's a real change in the last few years. And I loved the way he described, and he said it's not FOMO that I was feeling when I decided I'd wanted to play Wimbledon. And then he described FOMO. He described FOMO to a team.
Yes, there is an argument that I should just not play here, because the Olympics is the big gap in my record and I could go and prioritize that. But actually, I want to play this. This is Wimbledon. I don't want to play Wimbledon, and I can't imagine it going on and me not being being involved. And I loved it really, because that shows the reverence for the place that he has, the love for it, how he realizes his time is numbered now.
I don't care how fit you are, he's not going to be around that much longer. So it is more than a miss one. Honestly, Taylor Fritz has been assisting at Jokovic to win Grand Scent titles by losing to him in the quarterfinals for years. And he has possibly done his biggest assist yet. Why didn't he say, don't do it Novak? Yes. Don't do it. The number of times Jokovic is referencing the call he had with Taylor Fritz and seeing Taylor Fritz as this guiding light in terms of how to get back.
It's crazy. It's interesting what you said there David about the form he's in. And what I find interesting about that is we're really only going off practice, really, because what I think the knee injury has done has slightly taken away all the discussion that we were having pre-Frank Chopin, which was, well, I actually never talk of each, isn't in great form.
And kind of the question I wanted to ask him in the press conference I didn't get called on was, did he get enough out of those four matches that Ronan Garros had a slam to feel confident again that his form is back? Because there was, that was certainly the impression I got at times against Surundolo and Mazzetti. Even though it was being pushed to five sets, I felt like he was playing better. The hunger was back, the drive, the intensity was back that had been missing all year.
But I think we're all just kind of assuming that the form is back. And it's no about Jokovic and it's Wimbledon, so it's all just going to click. But I do have a tiny question mark in the back of my mind. Like we haven't seen him play well at the latter stage of a big tournament now for a little what, kind of the longest time since that sort of 20, 16, 17 period start of 2018. Like other than that he'd been routinely reaching the latter stages of every tournament
and playing big players regularly. He just hasn't been playing those matches. And that's just there in the back of my mind, but it's obviously outweighed by everything that he's done in his career. But I do think it's an interesting point that everyone's just talking now about the injury. Yeah, and he is still 37. He hasn't had that surgically removed. He hasn't had 10 years surgically taken off his age. Yeah. If you like. If that's, yeah.
Which is one final line also from that answer we gave to Matt Flutterman's question about like why the rush, why take this risk and you know said, as he said David, because it's Wimbledon. And then he also towards the end of the answer. He said, he basically said it was also like a fun new challenge. He said, I wanted to see how fast can I recover from this? It was like he saw surgery and a major injury as like a fun new challenge that he hasn't faced yet in his career.
And I thought that is an insight into this man's personality and this. There's great curiosity to him. He is interested in so much about what goes on in life. And even a medical procedure like that and what it might do to him and what he might be able to do to it is what came out. So that's no bad joke of it. Janik Sinakalus Alkra as you spoke to or were in the press conference of foreseed Alexander's verif.
David. Yeah, who there were a couple of bits of insight from him that really struck me because he's ceded to be meeting Jack Draper in the third round. So I suppose there's added interest from a British perspective there and when we went into draper's as well, which will come on to it. But I was curious is because his verif has never really done that well here. Does he feel different this time and that's what I asked him and he said really yes.
He said I was only speaking to my brother earlier today about how for the first time I actually am coming here thinking I'm a contender for this title. I think I can win it and it seems it's not only his own form. I mean I don't think he's magically become a grasp specialist or totally comfortable on the surface. And he does say that it poses challenges to him that the other surfaces don't.
I think he backs the form he's been in that has got him to the French urban final and foreseed, etc. But he actually said the biggest thing is the competition is not what it was. I.e. Roger Federer isn't dominating the place. No, that Chokovic is not dominating the way that he was and he kind of I suppose he was kind of saying that he's not the maybe the biggest, biggest threat that he used to be. Maybe he doesn't know how well know that Chokovic is feeling.
I mean his press conference was before Chokovic, and I didn't hear about those two practicing together. But he just seemed to really rate his chances and I thought maybe you need to do that. But I'm not convinced by them. They're rating himself highly short. Yeah, no, no massive surprise. Like I think that argument would stand up if he'd been losing to those guys at Wimwooden before.
But he's not, he's you know his last few losses at Wimwooden have been Baratini, Orge Aliassim, Yeri Vesili, Ernest Koolbiss. Wasn't expecting to see his name then. Yeah, I really bet myself that Ernest Koolbiss is out of the way. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Finally, we're tired. My time has come. He was saying how open he felt it wasn't that he's right there in the mix as one of the contenders. I mean, but that is very him, isn't he? He does do that.
The other thing he got asked about was the single-handed backhand. And whether he feels it is going to die out. Because of its lack of effectiveness versus a two-hand. I mean he is a player with just about the perfect two-handed backhand I would say. So I think probably the best one in the game really. And he said it's a really tough ask. Well, Amanda and his are the same. In the men's game. In the men's game.
But I mean he said the thing is the single-hander, when you've got these guys like Alkraz and Sinahid in the ball, as hard at your backhand as they are, you just need that second hand on the ball. You just need that second hand on the racket. He said it's really hard to return that thing. Single-handed. I mean, I don't know how much experience he's got of that personally. But certainly, I mean it does seem, it's a few and far between these days, aren't they?
Yeah, and I do think it is on the return that the double-hander makes all the difference. Like I think, like you were saying the other day like, okay Tommy Paul, I think of as a massive, massive server, but he's still getting it up in the mid to high 120s regularly. And that would be probably what, you know, 20 or 30 years ago, what Sanpras would be serving. And he was standing out as a big server.
And now, like, kind of the head, okay, they don't all serve as well as Sanpras, but they can all get the speed. And like you do need the, what most people need the two hands. It's just become, it's just become the dominant type of backhand for sure. The other problem for Draper that's not Jock of Itch or Ernest Goulbis is, is Jack Draper potentially in the third round. He came through the main press conference room today, David. How did you find him?
Really impressive. Confidence, strident, detailed again. David, great answer to your question. Well, I asked him about the things he's hearing from Wayne Ferrera that he wouldn't have been hearing before Wayne Ferrera arrived. And he just said he was so blunt with how I'd got to play. That I think it probably took him back. And I mean, I interviewed Wayne Ferrera for our podcast the other week. And he's a lovely guy, but he is, there's no wasted words with him.
He tells you what he thinks. And he's not afraid if you don't like it. And he doesn't need it. I mean, he wanted to coach Jack Draper, but I think if Jack Draper had been unreceptive to his guidance, I don't think he'd be hanging around. And he doesn't need to. He's got a very successful playing career behind him. He's been a successful coach. And he told him you've got to be aggressive. You've got to just take it to these guys no matter what. And I think it's just made Draper bullish.
I think he just feels so clear in his mind as to how he needs to go about things. And I mean, he said really the crossroads was a year ago when he was on the sofa, unable to play Wimbledon. And he said, I watched Al Kras in that final. And he obviously loved the match. And he's obviously a huge tennis fan, but it really got to him that this guy is actually younger than he is. And look what he's doing. And I think he was jealous of him. And I think he was like, right, I've got to get to work.
And it was really interesting, I thought, in his answer to you, David, how he said that Wainfrauer had been, as you said. So blunt at the beginning of their partnership. But he said that actually in the last few weeks, Raeru has kind of stepped back in terms of the advice that he's giving. And that made me think of some of the conversations that we've been kind of fortunate enough to have with Pam Shriver, who is coaching.
And so often the point that Pam, I think, tries to get across is it's not always necessarily about what you say. It's about how you say it and when you say it. I think that's a big art of coaching. Like you've got to pick your moment to get your message across. And it sounds like now, now that Draper's kind of in this swing of playing tournaments and competing and trying to win them,
for Raeru is not badgering him with advice. It's all, it's a very simple message at the beginning. And now it's like, go out and execute it. And it's all about not trying to overcomplicate it. And I think, you know, Jack Draper should have a very simple, straightforward gate, especially on this surface. And that's what's really come across to me with how for Raeru has kind of communicated that to him, I think. He's a good lad, isn't he? Jack Draper. Yeah, we like him.
Fascinating. Okay, well, while you were with Jack Draper, I was over at Arangi watching Andy Murray practice there. David, you saw a little bit of this as well. Simon Briggs was there. Pam Shriver was there. It was a Matt had FOMO. I actually did. I saw a photo on my Instagram and I was, oh, I left quite quickly, Matt. You wouldn't have wanted to be there.
Yeah, okay. So it was actually his second practice session of the day apparently had practiced offsite at Reigns Park somewhere not too far away earlier on this morning. Behind closed doors, nobody saw that and then practiced this afternoon at the practice courts here, not open to the public, but open to certain members of the media.
It was it was a light practice, but he was doing singles drills. It was clearly a practice to test where he is with a view to playing singles potentially on Tuesday. Excuse me, live tele folks. And those singles drills included some some pretty brutal stuff he asked his hitting partners to drop shot him. Oh, that's just me. Yeah, gosh. And it was not a pretty sight watching him try to chase down down drop shots. He did a sprint test against Johnny Amara. And he got beaten by Johnny Amara.
You see, Matthew can get away with that laugh. Yeah, there's no there's no non blunt way to tell you that Andy Murray lost a sprint test today to Johnny Amara. He's a retired doubles player. Yes. Yeah, I'm sure a very fit one. But in terms of positives, he was serving OK, I expected the serve to be a big problem, given it was a back injury is a back injury, he was serving OK.
I'm sure there was another positive, but I have forgotten it. It there might not have been another one. It was a really, really tough watch. The other positive was that his he looked quite happy. And I do think there was a possibly a slightly performance development of that, you know, he knew there were journalists, so he knew there were people watching the photographers on the court.
I've seen seen some of the photos that are out there and he is laughing and joking. He did a he did a little game on the court, sort of mocking up a little game of Patonk with tennis balls. He was very visibly sort of happy when he wasn't bent double using his racket as a walking stick. Changes of direction looked very tough. You know, this is a guy that that Simon Briggs reminded me of this today.
This is a guy who's former fitness trainer, Jez Green, and they actually cross paths on the practice court today because Sebastian Corder who said green's now working with was next on, but when Jez Green was working with Andy Murray, he once told Simon Briggs that he was faster over the first three meters than you say in bolt. Andy Murray. I can't verify that, but that is what Jez Green used to say, you know, he was a slow starter.
He was a famously slow starter, you say in bolt, but yeah, in terms of, you know, explosivity and quickness out of the blocks. We've seen footage of him doing those sprints tests, and I'm sorry to say this again, but he lost one to Johnny O'Mara. And look, we often joke about how people like us and indeed us sometimes go and watch practice and say, are they hitting the ball so sweetly?
And he was hitting the ball really sweetly when the ball was right in his hitting zone. He will be able to do that when he's 100. All of these guys will. They will be on their deathbeds, and if a tennis ball lands there and they've got a racket in their hand, they'll be able to hit it sweetly. It's all about whether they can get themselves in position to get the ball in the hitting zone, and he couldn't do that today.
But the majority of people watching him seem to think he was going to play singles on Tuesday, probably not because it seems like a good idea, but because it's Andy Murray. I have my doubts. Just the three days to hold our breaths and three days to hold our breaths. And look, I support whatever he decides. It is his decision. I will find it a tough watch if he plays singles because what he's told is about the risk of injuring himself for the long term.
I just so don't want that for him, but respect whatever decision he makes, but am anxious about it. Are we going to be in a situation where Thomas Mahatch is being booed on the centre court for drop-shotting Andy Murray? By us. It looked like a good tactic today, but it put it that way. I don't think he's got a very good drop shot. Mahatch. I think he does, doesn't he? He does. He's great. He's got great touch and hands, but I mean, the one match I saw in play on grass, he was a disaster.
And he had his own neck problem in that match against feasts. He was getting it stretched out all the time. What I'm saying is, it's all no. What you're saying is it might not be the best spectacle on either side of the net if it happens. Oh gosh. I mean, really not that long ago that Murray said he wishes he hadn't gone on court at Queens. And now he's faced with that decision again. It seems like he's going to, well, it sounds like he might take the same decision.
That wasn't my impression from watching him. I was watching him going, obviously he's not going to play singles. But other people there, other more learned people than me, thought the fact that he was doing those singles drills meant that he was still planning on playing singles right now. I suppose he might be doing them to rule it out. I do him what he has to do to give the final check and then Mike might just think, OK, well, clearly I can't do it.
That's no, Andy Murray's mind works though, is it? I don't know. We'll see. I've been watching this space. Way too many years trying to predict what he's going to do and getting it wrong. Yeah, I really do think he's going to leave it to the very last moment. I think this could be a Tuesday morning job. He's giving us something to talk about, isn't he? A few other results from today, Alejandro Tobilo is the champion in Mallorca. He beats Sebastian Offner to in the title.
Taylor Fritz, the champion in Eastbourne, he beat Max Pacell in straight sets, Cazakina, the women's champion in Eastbourne. Big news for her is Sabileanka, doesn't play. Yeah, and this was big in itself for Cazakina. She lost her last five finals, you know, it become a real kind of issue. I think it was back in, it was kind of two years ago that she won her last title, and she's got to the finals a lot of tournaments and not been able to close them.
So, you know, even though the weak leading up to a slam is kind of, you know, then it's always the strongest fields. They sort of get a bit lost in the build-up to the slam obviously, but I think for Cazakina, that will be a big weight lifted off her shoulders. That will be big for her. She will be absolutely buzzing the fact that she's finally got another title to sort of have become so close to so many.
And yeah, if she can take some of that form, and if Sabileanka isn't right, then, as you say, suddenly her women would in prospects look up, and we were talking the other day, and David was reminding us that Cazakina kind of took Ash Bharti apart here at women in a few years ago.
I don't think of Cazakina as necessarily having a game immediately translates to grass that well with that loopy forehand that she has, but the touch that she's got has sliced her just general court sense, I think probably does lend itself to grass. And yeah, very interesting to watch her at Wimwood and Off the Back of this sort of confidence boost for her.
And please, Laura, beat Leyla Fernandez three and four today in the final, and Diana Schneider, the champion in Bad Homburg, she beat Donna Vechich, 6-3, 2-6, 6-3, David Tundin, three all in the third set to watch this. I mean, I have a soft spot for Diana Schneider, I'm a big fan of hers, but you know, our Pam connection, we all have a soft spot for Donna, David Tundin, three all in the third, and she didn't win another game. So...
Donnie Pam's talking to me very well. She didn't reply, didn't you? Sorry Pam. There's still a great week for them both, and these are 500 events for the women. These are not just Wimble and Warm-up events, these are big deals in themselves, that just reaching the final, that will have a big impact on Donna Vechich's ranking, and even bigger impact on Schneiders. These are big deal events in themselves for these players.
And of course, we'll be interesting to see what they can do at Wimble, and it's that balance for players that play this week between the matches and the confidence and the form and the fatigue. And Vechich, of course, the second round opponent potentially, Saba Lenka, with her trials and tribulations. Indeed. Lots of watching this space, folks. Good job. We've got nightly podcasts for you throughout the tournament.
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