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Hello and welcome to Paris. We have made it, we're here. I have already been brought vinaigrette in a bistro when I'd asked the waiter for vinegar. We are so back. Yeah. I wait three hundred and sixty five days for that moment and it delivered once again.

And there was some there was some concern that it might not for a moment because for a for a for a split second we thought he'd actually understood the request and was gonna bring you exactly what he w what he wanted and then he turned up with something that was nothing like it and Matt and I rejoiced. Catherine laughed in his face. Yeah. It's all on our Instagram uh if you'd like to check that out. Uh yeah, I'll be put carrying personal vinegar with me for the rest of this trip.

You find us incidentally for the first of our eighteen daily tennis podcasts throughout this role on Garros in the eaves of Court Suzanne Longlem. We're down kind of the back end of the site here at Roland Garris. We're next to Court eleven. Uh Court fourteen is uh a few meters behind us. There are still qualifying matches going on. David checked out a bit of qualifying on Longlen earlier. In fact he sacrificed London For it. I would never Chaotic behavior.

minutes I'd been here before I was on long there. And it was Sloane Stevens and she won all the games I watched, so I'm now her good luck job. And then I was the only one in the press seats by the way, literally just me and about 100 ご視聴ありがとうございました That's right. Fourel, the young French qualifier who uh Catherine's dad is a big fan of and uh I just wanted to see his introduction to the crowd and it did not disappoint. People were ravenous for a local boy come good. And he was

He won and he qualified, so we'll be seeing more of Tom Af Farrell. I've I f my dad might be on a Eurostar as we speak. He's he's a big time Farrell guy.

Um yeah, today of course is draw day at Roland Garrett. Second on Matt's list of favourite days of the year. Uh and the draw will be the main feature of today's show. Rest assured there was No shortage of oolalars and there is plenty for us to get our teeth into but there have been a couple of stories casting a bit of a shadow over Roland Garros over the last

Forty eight hours. One of those is the news that broke yesterday in The Guardian that the players are planning a coordinated media walkout in protest. at the proportion of revenue that's allocated to player prize money at Grand Slams. That was obviously a big story in Rome a couple of weeks ago, one that we talked about on this show with Charlie Eccleshare.

A story, that media walkout that is planned for tomorrow. We'll be covering that in part three of today's show and I'm sure on tomorrow's show as well because it sounds like we might need something to talk about.

On tomorrow's show, in lieu of actually being able to talk to tennis players. The other spectre looming over the drawer today was. Carlos Alcaraz, the two time defending men's champion here who had he been fit to play would have made an appearance at the draw'cause that's the tradition here. He did it last year. We had a cameo this year from Coco Goff in the orangerie, but Alcaraz

was conspicuous by his absence. He's of course back home in Murtia nursing a wrist injury and that is where he'll be for A while longer because the news broke on Tuesday that Carlos Alcaraz would will not only miss this role on Garros but he'll miss Wimbledon and the entire grass court season too. This is what he said.

In his social media statement he said my recovery is going well and I'm feeling much better, but unfortunately I'm still not ready to compete, which is why I have to withdraw from the Grasscourt swing at Queens and Wimbledon. They are two truly special tournaments for me. And I will miss them a lot. There's no way around it, David. It is a massive blow for men's tennis.

For sure. And being at the draw today, as many stories as we did get, and there were plenty, when they showed the men's drawer, it had a massive picture of Carlos Alcaraz in the middle of it. holding the trophy because that's kind of the tradition is they they celebrate the champion. As you said, he the champion always comes in person to the to the official draw as well.

and and they did a montage at the start of the the the process to to to show great moments um from from last year and he's obviously all over them. And he's not here. And there's nothing anybody can do about it, but it is just a massive shame. It's as simple as that. There's kind of two facets to it, aren't there? There's the oh bomber, we're not gonna have Roland Garros at Queens or at Wimbledon and there's the Oh, Crikey, is this in wrist injury

worse than we thought it was or you know uh i yeah is this sort of on the worst scale of wrist injuries the the bad examples of which are looming in everyone's mind. You know we've all got Dominic Thiem and Martin Del Potro just Mae'n ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud. Sheath.

the streets are saying, you know, that's you know, as far as we know there's no no surgery happening or on the horizon. Most people um don't have to have surgery to reduce their discomfort. Um and the wrist usually responds well to immobilization and we know that that's what he's been doing. He's had his wrist in the in the big brace, hasn't he? Um And the the tendons get to calm down and the fluid k fluid can um dissipate. One one interesting facet of this kind of injury, and we saw it.

big time with Dominic Team is that the psycholog psychological element to it and there's a psychological element to any pain and any injury obviously but with this particular injury in this part of the body can linger a bit longer. The feeling that the joint is unstable, even if it's not, can m in in the words of this doctor be as destabilizing as the injury itself. And I remember Dominic Thiem talking about that and saying he had

He had all the specialists telling him your wrist is fine. There is no reason why you can't hit full throttle on your forehand, and he just couldn't couldn't get over that that physical tha that that mental obstacle and Carolina Mukoviz talked about it as well. I mean she's a Mae'n unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw In order to do it.

And even Carlos Alcaraz himself a a couple of years ago, okay, a different injury, but when he had that arm injury, that was I think very psychological as well as he tried to make his comeback from that. We saw that in the Netflix documentary, didn't we, about just how much he was holding back on on the forehand through that clay court season. So yeah, it it feels like it's gonna be quite a long road back for Carlos Alcaraz and you know hopefully In the

grand spectrum of his career. We're just talking about a four or five month period here where he's on the sidelines and then coming back. But even that in itself is quite significant. You know, when you're Carlos Alcaraz and you're chasing records, David you made a you made a great point that if you compare Alcaraz with

the big three as everyone naturally does. I think it was only Nadal who in the prime of his career missed back to back slams, end of twenty twelve, start of twenty thirteen there. They they they had this clean bill of health and Alcaraz already now is missing two slams, absolutely in his prime. He's already missed one a few years ago.

And you know, we do have a bit of a picture of a a player who is prone to to injury there and that is gonna be a concern for him going forward as well, plus just the huge bummer that it is for men's tennis. We miss his presence so much in in drawers. He's so compelling. He's so joyful. He's so fun. We love watching his matches and you know so it's it i there's a double dose of sadness for him and then for everyone watching these tournaments as well.

Yeah and it always goes back for me to the point that Like because if one of them goes and one of them is gone and tennis players are pretty injury prone and there does seem to be a lot of it around with the schedule as it is. I a big one Generally speaking isn't that fun. You know, it doesn't matter who that one is. It's not that fun to know what the likely outcome of every tournament is is gonna be. When you compare it to the women's draw today, everywhere I looked there were players

That just jump off the page. And I'm not trying to disparage men's tennis. These are players who are gonna throw their hearts into it and maybe somebody can cause an upset, but it's really hard to see what. Um and look eve th the I don't I don't want Yannick Sinner to get injured, but talking about Flimsey, what if he gets injured? You know, for for his hopes that it's so it's all so precarious.

Anybody's career is. If he did get injured, I mean that then it's an open season at this tournament, isn't it? But when you actually look at it, it's I mean I've I've done prediction for every round from third round onwards and it's very hard to sort of see one to one anybody stopping. That is quite some effort by the way. David doing a prediction for every match from third round on the end. That took my entire lunch.

That's like um it was the Australian Open this year, wasn't it, that did the um The competition Yeah, so win a million, was it? If you predicted every max Yeah. If I was on my game. Yeah, th but there's no prize for this one. I've just done it. We've done the wrong slam. Speaking of Australia, I do keep thinking about our crowd. In Australia saying I feel like He would take the career slam, completing it there versus winning of the other. It feels a little bit like my He did follow up.

Say we need to reach the final, didn't we? I can still reach the final of them, right? Oh bless. He he did a Faustian deal and the devil took him at his word. It's horrible, isn't it? Yeah, we just couldn't have anticipated this this happening. He must and he must be just gutted, you know, like I mean anyone would be being taken out of of two slams like this, but just the character that he is I I I think it's I think it's tough.

Okay, well any further news we'll keep you posted. Um hope there isn't because Alcraz News just seems to be him pulling out of stuff at the moment. So hope that goes quiet for a while.

Covering off news, we also um had the story uh a couple of days ago that Sally Bolton is gonna be stepping down as the Wimbledon chief executive after six years in that role. She became the first female Chief Exec of the All England Club when she was appointed in December of twenty nine t twenty nineteen, replacing Richard Lewis. So she obviously shepherded.

um the tournament and the club through the pandemic, through um the decision to ban Russian and Belarusian players, you know, she's She's been at the helm for for a lot of big events in Wimbledon history and of course the the expansion plans that they're still desperately trying to push through at the moment. Um the A A ELTC said that the financial director, Richard Atkinson, will take up the role on an interim basis and a new chief executive will be announced in due course. Okay.

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Welcome back to part two of today's Parisian tennis podcast where it is time now to head to the orangerie, which is exactly what we three did at 1.45 pm this afternoon. Not early enough to get a seat on the first. Rydyn ni'n fawr iawn. Rydyn ni'n fawr iawn. Rydyn ni'n fawr iawn. Rydyn ni'n fawr iawn. Rydyn ni'n fawr iawn. Rydyn ni'n fawr iawn. Rydyn ni'n fawr iawn. Rydyn ni'n fawr iawn. Rydyn ni'n fawr iawn. A huge plinth, two trophies and some men in the way. So many men.

for that. Yeah, okay, let's let's review the drawer itself before we get into the names therein. Did it live up to your high, high expectations? It was a little bit disappointing as a ceremony I think. And I also tried to take into account the viewer experience on YouTube and they couldn't see the draw either. Somehow the plinth was it was also in the way if you were watching

via YouTube. So that was a problem. I mean I found out the l the bottom eighth of the women's draw about an hour after it happened. Because I couldn't see it live. So that was a bit of a disaster. You and your standard you expect to actually see the thing. I know. Outrageous, right? Uh there was also an i an interview in the middle of the women's drawer, which is an interview. Look nothing against Tony Estangay, three time Olympic medal.

Uh but him popping up in the middle of the women's draw before they put the seeded names in to have a chit chat about nothing in particular. And there was no no such chat in the middle of the men's straw. They they did have a further chat with Tony but it was after the men's draw. There was quite a lot of Tony, wasn't there? In fact the only female that spoke during the entirety of the draw was Coco Goff and that converse ended conversation ended with

I d I didn't know whether to say this because I didn't want to bum you out on your you know, it's your special day, but I was pretty bummed out by that draw that Th the montage, the video montage that they opened it win with was eighty five percent men. Right. Potentially. Yeah.

Like it felt like a it was a recap of last year and it felt like a men's recap that someone has sort of accidentally edited a f a few women into. Like I don't know, I just I marvel at the way this place finds new ways to disrespect Wait a minute. It's pretty extraordinary. Uh Five out of ten. It was a six earlier. I was caught in the mo I was caught up in the moment. I'm swept up by it all. But it's really strong case. He's heard Catherine's takes and he's gone down.

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The headlines, we have Coco Goff and Irina Sabalenka yn ysgrifennu yn ysgrifennu, ac yn ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu ysgrifennu. Um a potential round three between Igor Schwiątek and Jelena Ostepenko and some absolutely mouth watering

round ones. Like a real great smattering throughout the draw of juicy looking first round matches. I mean frankly, right at the top, Arena Sabalenka against Jessica Botas Monero That's a tough opener for Arena Sabalenka. She's I mean look, I think Sabalenka would fancy herself against any first round in this draw, and yet if you line that up on paper, you've got a really talented Um clay court specialist, somebody who can play on other things as well, but I mean she likes clay and

Sh you know, y y it's not ideal. I mean y in talking about the number of um round one matches that stand out, as well as doing my third round onwards predictions, I also circled whatever I thought looked like a good first round match. in both draws and in the women's draw I've I've circled eleven matches. I mean that's that's a decent helping isn't it? Yeah, it really is. And I think uh w what I find interesting about a lot of the

round one matches that jump out is that they're disruptors with like the opportunity to disrupt, you know, like Laura Siegmund against Naomi Osaka jumped out to me. That's that's one that's in that top top I think the Saka's having a tough time there. Yeah, I think so. I think her eggs are getting scrambled. I think Siegmund sees prey. Yeah. Do you think she'll beat her? Maybe. Yeah. That's the sort of player she beats. I've got a Sarko.

Third round onwards I've got her in. So I've got her taken out Sigmund, but it might take should be beating Siegmund but I think Laura Siegmund is pretty thrilled at that draw. Yeah. Hm. And I mean even in that top section, the Sabalenka section, you've got Jovic against Ayala in the first round, which is which is just great. Umboko against Bartonkova is really exciting I think as well. Goff and Townsend is a particular favourite of mine. Boisson Kalinskaya. Yeah. That should have got new la.

They've got a sign. She's had a tough time, hasn't she, Black? Sunny today they did. B Blason's had a tough time this last year, hasn't she? It'd be lovely if she could find some form. I mean, she's had terrible injury. Baptiste Krechikova jumps out, doesn't it? And I know which one you want to talk about. Svizzalina Bondar? Yeah. Oh my god. Give us the backstory.

What did we say just in our show very recently, Svitolina, real real contender uh Roland Garros and you know, you would quit oh unless she gets Anna Bondar. She's only gone and got Anna Bondar in round one. This is the person who beat her in Madrid and beat her at the US Open last year. And we wrote off the Madrid one as oh she's just got an Anna Bondar problem but

in the big picture of the French Open, that's all right. What are the chances that you get drawn against Anna Bondar? Well she's got her in round one. And she also paid her here last year at the French and that was Uh six and five, I think. Like two tight sets. She did blow out at Wimbledon. Switzerlina crushed her at Wimbledon last year.

But yeah, like it is it is a tricky draw because that's someone who has who has beaten her very recently. Look, I would still expect Svitolina to win, but it felt like a troll, didn't it? From the draw gods. I love it when a a really great player has a really neat With Ostapenko, doesn't she? She's not random Ostapenko, I'm very aware she's a former champion here, but like relatively speaking, and the size of the issue that she has. Sverev has one with gareen.

I mean he beat him recently but he should have lost and he's lost to him a couple of times before. I d I do it's just one of the things about tennis that I really love. So as much as I kind of don't really don't wanna lose in Lina's Fitolina from this draw in round one, I do You'll be on the front row. Like uh I like Paulini Yastremska as a first round match. I mean, in terms of just intrigue that's in the other half of the draw. Yeah. But it's uh it's it is fascinating.

Maybe everyone's tough for Paulini at the moment. And and then there's also uh Baptiste Krajikova in the first round. And which uh you know when you're talking about disruptors, which Yeah, you you kind of think well Krichikova feels like a disruptor these days because she so rarely plays that she can't really get seeded and yet here she is a Grand Slam champion that could beat so many players on a day.

Yeah, so that's the great round one matches which as David says littered throughout this draw. I think Looking at the big picture of the draw, I think as you said, Sabalenka and Goff in the same half, which is obviously interesting'cause that's that means we can't get a repeat of last year's final. And I I do like

both of their draws to get through to that stage. I think I know we've talked about all these all these names and great round one matches, but I d you know, there's obviously a question mark over Sabalenka's fitness a little bit and there's But I'm still looking at that draw and knowing Sabalenka's record at majors is so consistent and thinking she's gonna make it through probably at least to the semis. I think maybe the most dangerous name for Coco Goth.

who is a possible third round opponent for her and has obviously had a really good season, actually won her last two matches against Coco Golf I was looking it was back in twenty twenty three, so maybe not hugely relevant but But Porto Povo's a lot better now. She was twenty three. And she's she's just been dangerous. She's that flat hitter that on her day I think could rush Ghost if Goth isn't quite at her best. That's kind of the name that.

that's jumping out to me as a big obstacle for Coco Goff but with the caveat that you can't really trust Potapova like she could also go out before the third round there. Like I so if that happens I think that is a little bit tricky for Goff but Uh overall I do like the draws here for Sabalenko and Golf, I think, to meet in the Sammy's. According to seeding it would be Pagula to face Sabalenka in the quarterfinals and Anison Mova to face

Gough in the quarters. Matt having ruled Anisamova out of the mix and done his best to lower all expectations. He said she's she's got a r wrist niggle, she hasn't played. Unfair of me to have any expectations of uh Five minutes into the drawer was leaning over saying, I do quite like that section Franisamovino. And is Matt also trying the sort of reverse psychology thing? You know, he's he's tried the sort of unfettered hope of last year and nearly got over

And nearly got himself blonde hair. But you know, now now he's putting the downer on everything and maybe she'll come good. Uh I one one player that I've got her having to get through if she's gonna reach that quarterfinal is Jung Chin Wen. Who is unseated here and uh is in a section of the drawer where she could meet uh Elisa Mertens in the second round. Um I I would if if Jung is fit I would think she would win that personally. I think she's gonna Fun floater, isn't she?

I think I think Noscova in that section is also dangerous, having a good year, beat golf very recently. Uh yeah, so there are obstacles for Sabalenko and Golf. I just I just trust them, I suppose.

Bottom half of the draw potentially more of a a minefield for these big seeds. Obviously I've already mentioned the the headline that jumped out at me which is that Elena Ostepenko only needs to win two matches. ...in order to get to take on Igor Shontek here. I've got crossings out on my draw around this area. Yeah. I've got I had Ostepenko beating Sviontek. Cool. She always beats Schilter. And she's beaten Sviontek when Sviontek's been better than.

There's beaten better versions of Shontek than the one that we've seen most recently. So yeah, so that's third round. So I've got Schwantek not getting through to the fourth round on one hand, then crossed out and she's in the semi finals. Yeah. I would back Ustabanco. If that match happens. Well we know she lives for it. Does clay favor Ostepenko? I mean obviously we know Svantec is at her best on Clay, but is Ostepenko at her best on

I mean look there's a difference between Roland Gareth's clay and everywhere else clay, right? Like Stepenko's beaten her on clay before. I don't I don't think cla clay is a huge favour for either of them. Ronald Garros is definitely a tick in the Siontek box. But you know I I still have a seed of doubt about Schoentek mentally and she's got no bigger mental problem than with Yelena Rostepenko. Is Ostepenko going to get there? She might have to beat Teresa Valentova.

Yeah, Vanetova or Lynette probably in the second round is But she's got a mission now. She's got a reason to want to win. We were talking earlier about how we were in this position a year ago, I think around later then. They would have met in the fourth round. Um the third round opponent was Rebakana. Yeah. But so few people with including us were talking about Reb Rebakina in the way we are now.

That that almost felt not I don't know whether it felt like an upset, but we I think we thought maybe Ostavenka would get there then and Rebecca and it did and they ended up having a good match. Yeah, a good indicator of how far We've come with Rabakina in the last twelve months. Definitely.

I also think Ostepenko came in with a bit stronger form last year as well. Uh and look, the replacement match we got was brilliant. Rabatkin and Shvontek. That was a that was a fantastic match. It was just Less fun and less fun. Yeah. And you know, we're kind of we're always looking for that.

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Kostiuk, who is on a twelve match winning streak on clay and a you know, by that point would be a fifteen match winning streak if they met in the fourth round. And then Svitilina. You know, like three of the form Players or issues for Schviontek. Look I think it's comfy for Schviontek in the first couple of rounds, but after that If the draw holds I think this is really hard for Egersfield. I mean you still might have to beat Rebecca and Sabalenka after that lot to win the title. Yeah.

And I think that's a good idea. if she could, but that's a big answer. You know, I feel like we put that in our pod title last year for the Roland Garrett straw. It's just a nightmare, Frigas Fiante and she navigated through it pretty well and she didn't end up facing Ostepenko. So she can definitely overcome it. She's she's she's gonna have to play well, I think, to to come through even to the semi.

What about Rabakina at the bottom of the draw? So Paulini is in her eighth, um Mirandreva would be her projected quarter final opponent according to seeding. You've got Mukova in there is probably the uh the other b biggest name. Saranica Steya we should probably pick out as being in that section as well. She would be a fourth round opponent for I Paulini can get there.

Yeah, I'd I th these are all good players. Um I I I I've sort of got your Stremska beaten Paulini but but I just feel that Rebecca is gonna take care of all of those. Um I mean I'm a big Andreva fan Yeah, I think I agree. I think on on paper Third round Baptiste, fourth round Kersteya, quarter final Andreva or Mukova. I th I think that's tough for Rabatkina. I do, but She's so much more convincing this year and I do still favour her in all of those matchups.

individually I think. So yeah, uh tricky but I would expect Rabatkiner, I think, to come through. So David, do you have the top four seeds in the semis? Yeah, I do. Yeah. I mean I must admit when when I'm doing this sort of thing, y your eyes do get drawn to the players in bold. Quite a lot. But but I mean I think in the women's draw.

They are the standout players as deep as women's tennis is. I I I like I said I had the crossings out and I actually had Kostic um getting through at one stage to the quarters and then I just thought, no, it's Igor Sfiantek, for goodness sake. You know, I can't believe that She's not gonna find this sooner or later here again. I mean she's won the thing four times. She's still young. She's But she could find it and still lose to Elena or Stepenko. Well, I think that's a good thing

such a wild card where it comes to her. It's it's freakish what what she does with her and and I don't think it's just you know it'd be very easy to say oh it's mental. I think it's also game Oh yeah, big time. The way that ball rears up at Ostepenko, she just looks at it most players look at that as a nightmare, but she looks at it as an invitation to just hurt with her with her power and go for broke and that go in for broke. It's very difficult for Svantec to get a foot.

Matt, what do you think? Top four in the semis? Do you think Svitolina's losing to Annabonda? I know she's not top four seed, but No I don't I'm backing Switzerland. Banking Svetina. Do you think Shuntech's leasing to us to banker? I think I do, yeah. Wow. Would you have Svitilina Rivacina in the semi? Yes. And then I think I would have Rabatkin uh coming through that. Actually I think I've got Robatkano in the final and then Goth Savalenka is the one I never know how to predict.

It's funny the it was only a a very you know, light little chit chat that Coco Goff had on the had on the stage at the draw but um you know the first question was how are you feeling? She said, Yeah I'm feeling good and then it was no how but how are you really feeling? Like gives you know, are you feel you really feeling ready? And she was like Yeah, like as ready as I can be, I think. Like yeah. Yeah. Um but no, she s you know, good on her for

for doing that. Um okay, that is it for the women's draw. Let's have a chat about the men's drawer. Um look there was kind of

There was one big intake of breath for for this draw, wasn't there? It was previewed in advance. It was gonna it it was all about who's in Sinners half and who's not In Sinna's half and Novak Djokovic is not in Yannick Sinner's half of the draw, which Kinda makes it a good draw, like in the men's If you wanna win this title, there is o there's really only one good draw to be had here and it's not it's being as far away from Yannick Cinner as possible and yet

Looked at another way, it might be a bit of a nightmare draw for Novak Djokovic. Giovanni Peshiperikar in the opening round, potential French player in the second round, potential Fonseca in the third, Casparude in the fourth, Duminour in the quarterfinals if he gets there, Zverov in the semis, and then Yannick Sinna in the final. Um It Is it a nightmare draw for Novat Djokovic Davis?

I think it is really. I I think relatively speaking I I don't I don't love that for for Djokovic. Some of those names. I mean look I I've got him running into trouble against Kasparut, personally. Um if they get that far. But um yeah i it's i he could have had an easier time than that, I I think. Um I mean just just as a as an indication of

the difference in h in the feel of the men's and the women's draws. I told you I circled eleven matches in the first round in the the women's draw. I've circled five in the men's. Now maybe I've not been as specific about some of those and maybe I've missed a couple, but I mean I I just feel like that tells a story really.

See I I feel like there are I agree, not as many. I feel like there are quite a few fun first rounds in the men's draw. What I don't think is fun is uh I mean look, I just like competition in tennis and sport and look I no matter what came out of the draw, I was always gonna feel like Yannick Sinner was the favourite for this title. I think the draw for Senna is an absolute joke. Like Genuinely Elliot Spit series might be his biggest problem.

Yeah. Like if there's a heat wave and Spitzeries somehow makes his way through to the quarterfinals. Bye. I I j I mean tell me tell me if sinner is fit. And has all his limbs intact. Probably doesn't even need to be that fit. Just just the limbs. Tell me who could possibly beat Yannick Sinner in that top half of the draw. Boy. I think I think Hit me. Map it. You saw the way Medvedev w worried him in Rome and I think I think the the element here is stress.

Could Sinner get stressed and could that have a physical reaction on his body? If it's hot as well, like there are elements here which could

diminish Yannick Sinna. If Yannick Sinna is at his best, I think he probably reaches the final without dropping a set. I think he's that dominant over everyone in in in this half of the draw, including Medvedev, to be to be clear. But I just think With those intangibles, Medvedev might be one who could possibly be able to exploit them on a on a s on a very specific day.

The thing that jumped out for me is that early on his draw is actually incredibly similar to what we've seen him have at Roland Garros in the last couple of years. We've seen him play Mute here, we've seen him play Rindakinesh, we've seen him play Bublin. And okay, Mute was quite fun for a set or so, but generally and r and the Rinna Kanesh he was fun for a little bit as well. But generally he's handled those sort of Mercurial. Those flare page.

I kinda hate those matchups because Those flare players just lose their pizza. against him. Like I never want to see Bublik Sinner again as long as I live. You know? It's just I mean there's something else going on there with ego and psychology but like you know I know Mute went five love up on Yannick Sinner and that was fun in a weird way for a bit, but then it w wasn't a match at all, was it? Like I just

I do think we're scarred by Bublick against Cinner at the US Open last year when uh when it was a w what did Bublik win? A couple of games and the whole But also public against De Manor at the Australian Open this year. He's just had a few where he's not really shown. You were right. Yeah, I mean he's still the guy that

Given the way he played against Draper last year here, makes me think well he's the guy if he just burned hot one day he could he could disrupt, he could make things interesting. I'd like to see Landeluthe against Sinner in the third round. I'd like to see that. Not that I expect Senna to lose, but I I love watching Under Luther and I think he's he walks around believing he's gonna beat people. So I want to see him bring it to the best.

Um but other than that I'm I mean I agree with you. I think Medvedev is likely to reach The semifinals and You didn't? Yes, I would have thought so. Um and and I know he it's not his favourite surface, but I've I've got him beating Caboli, I've got him beating Vachero, I've got going th through to the quarterfinals. Um but I think it tells you that how

Th there aren't that many obvious bankers the way that you would normally get, really. I think you've got a a choice between lots of similar people who haven't really done that before. But I'd still expect med for that. Projected quarter final for Sinner would be Ben Shelton uh and for Medvedev it would be Felix. Hoje é a LASA.

I th I I I think the way I'm looking at this draw is that you know, if you're like us and you're following the tournament like we follow it, literally every single day and you're thinking about all the various possibilities and the oh who can be the guy to potentially beat Yannick Sinner then this top half is probably not giving you all that much enjoyment. But I think there are still

There are still like some fun potential matches to be had just like in and of themselves. Like I'm I'm looking at a potential like Kaboli Tien third round. And I don't look at that match like I do at some fun matches in the women's draw and think that's got big implications. Right. But in itself I think that'd be a great watch. And that will be fun if that happens, I think. And and like And Medvedev TN. Exactly.

So there's a lot of those throughout the men's draw. It's so and I think you know the people who just come to Roland Garris for a day and tune in for a day and see that match, they're gonna think, wow, that that is still an amazing match and I'm gonna have a good experience. When you look at the bigger picture of it, which obviously we try to do, that's when I think you can end up feeling a little bit more sort of negative about it, I suppose.

Yeah, round ones I've I've picked out here on the men's side. Uh Thomas Mahatch again Zo bug. Benjamin Bonze against Alexander Zverev. And and they're next to each other in the drawer, those two women. No winners to face one another. Uh Moisa Kwame against uh Marin Chilich, that got a a rippling of Ula Laws, as did Alexandra Muller against Stefano Sitzipath. Giovanni Peshu Perikar against Novak Djokovic got a a good ripple of Ula Laws, big ripple of Ula Laars for Hugo Gaston against Gael Monfie.

And the biggest oolala of all for Stamarinka against Artifice. Right. You've circled that one David. Oh yeah, that circled that before I did anything. Did you buy a new highlighter for that? Um I don't wanna I mean I've already been the bummer on this show once. Just m my only note. of worry about that match is they're gonna put it on Chateauer night session and it should be on Long Len. But it's they're gonna think it's too too good. To retract. Too attractive. And I want it on Long Len.

Yeah, we it'd be perfect on Longman, it really would. Um I I mean the There's a chance that it might if if because because you've got Djokovic and Zverev in the same half of the draw. And they are higher seeds, bigger names. It might work out like that. Thing is they spread the first round out, don't they, through the three days. So they can you know they've got they've got three potential night sessions where they could fit that in, I suppose.

Same round though oh no it's not the same round as Djokovic I mean It is nail w what half of the draw is Monfils in. I'd say it's nailed on that Monfils will play night session. So if that is played on the same day I think that you can book that in. Whatever matches Morphise plays here that'll be in Church Night session. and Monfils Gaston. You can bet your house on that thing. Thank you. Against another French I don't think so, no. They'll all get behind on fees, obviously.

I think it's very much not ideal for Hugo Gaston. But he's a fun guy too. But he won't get the crap. But you know what I mean? Like you want like everyone to be going with Monfit. And it'll probably hold Gaston back from doing it fun stuff, s some of it anyway, or trying to whip the crowd up. Hello. You have put a bummer on it for me

Um we talked about Djokovic's potential nightmare draw in that in that bottom half. How about Alexander Zverev who would be Djokovic's semi-final opponent. So according to seedings it would be Djokovic against Diminor in the quarters and in the bottom quarter it would be Frit against Sverov. Now look I know Fritz is a a massive question mark to get there. He's barely played on clay, he's lost early this week, but he is a problem for Alexander Zverov. You've got Kaspar Rue

In his section, who has been a problem for Zverev? You've got Rafael Chodar, you've got Artifice, if he can make his way past. Stan Bavrinka. You know, given that Zverev's the second seed here and he always knew he was going to be avoiding Yanniksener in terms of the other. nifer o nifer o nifer o Sinna, ond yn ymwneud â'r unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw unrhyw

No, I d I don't think so either. I I think he got a little bit fortunate when there were two names left that could have come out in his third round draw and he got Hugo Amber rather than Rafael Hodar Hodar. um who ended up who could be a quarter final opponent for Zverev. I think that one went went his way because he he's so good against left handers. I don't think Ugo and Baer will get close to Zverev if they play against each other.

But the first two rounds are quite interesting I think for Svere. Excellent. Benjamin Bonzi because we know he can perform on the big stage um because he's beaten Medvedev before in that way. Um and then well the winner of Thomas Mahachin, Zizou Berg. They're Mercurial players, particularly Mc Mahatch, but I do think he's at least dangerous. You know, he's the sort of player that should be way higher in the world given his skill set.

Um so I don't know, I don't think that's ideal for a second round opponent. Um and then yeah, Feast maybe in the fourth round if if he can get that far. Probably be more likely Hachanov though I would have thought. I said that like two or three days in David would be uh looking at Zverev's draw thinking, okay yeah. That player could be tough for him. It actually happened within three seconds of of the draw coming out. David started talking up the match. Yeah. I love it. We're so bad.

I I haven't got Zverev in the final, actually, as it turns out. Have you got? Casper River. It's it's it's interesting going like you know, so have you got rude beaten joke? Yes. Yeah, see to me that is a prediction that Uh How much he's expended to get there. Because look, you know, we sort of wheeled off that potential draw for Djokovic and Peshi Perikov, Fonseca, Ruse. I don't think that's that tough if Djokovic is Agreed. Anything close to himself.

But there is that question mark that he won't be. And therefore those are you know, certainly Rude is someone that I think could capitalise on a below par Djokovic,'cause he's solid, he'll keep bringing it, he can hit the heavy forehand, he's confident at the moment. It's just

I c I I really don't feel like I can make a prediction for that before we get a better gauge of how Novadjokovic is looking. But if I if I sort of had to say right now I would lean on the side of Djokovic will probably be looking good enough to sort of get through that section would be my would be my hunch at this stage. He can't be able to do that. Trying to do some learning from Australia. Efficiently though. Because he you know, he he got those massive helping hands.

in Australia than abled him to preserve the canister and okay he could could get some walkovers here but m more likely he could do with some efficient win. is gonna mean he's got more in the tank or the fact that he hasn't played played will mean he's not matched tight and and he's just not undercooked, you know, and not able to to handle the sudden burst of requirement physically. David, I note that you you you ducked the Varinka feast prediction. I'll assume that you're backing feast.

I am backing things, yeah. With a with a note of warrant. Yeah but mainly because I just think there's a big question mark over Feces Fitness. Um I I I I think it could very easily be a super entertaining four set match. Um before Feast gets hold of him, sort of thing. Or or really close sets all the way, you know, whether they're whether they're three, four or five. Um but I would have thought eventually, you know, if a lot will be can Feast keep his head as well because the

There'll be support for Fees, of course there will be. The home crowd will go for him, but there's such affection for Varinka here. I I mean I'm fascinated by how the crowd responds to that. Um I mean b because Fees is so used to here, I think being able to just be the guy and I think it I think that's from that I mean obviously tough on a tennis level, but from s the sort of experiential level for both of them I I think that's a really tough draw.'Cause guy completely in that scenario.

Totally. I I yeah, I'm I'll be front row for wherever it is or where as close as I can get. Yeah. Yeah, I hope so. Um but I think um I think I go feast. What are you two? Yeah, I go Fees ultimately as well. level this year is higher than with Rinkers and I think he can handle just about that. That scenario you put forward there, which I agree is a tricky one with him not having the full backing of of the crowd. Um but it's a bad time to get Warrinka, you know. First round

when he hasn't expended too much energy. He was he was surprisingly still diesel, wasn't he? Like this year. Like the way he's I d I don't think five sets is fading is phasing Wavrinka too much at the moment and Feast is Fiece is a question mark over. Even his three set matches are he can't break anyone's serve, so he's just always in tie break set.

So yeah, I I I agree with you. I mean I don't think you could think it might be a problem if he was doing seven of them in a row, but Right, exactly. possibility. Can't wait for that to be clipped up in two and a half weeks' time. When Rink is in the final. No. Um anything else to pick out. Matt, who've you got in the final to face, let's assume Yannick Sinner? Look, I think at this stage I would say Djokovic That would be epic, couldn't it? Imagine if that That would be a good s a good story.

And maybe that's crazy. But it doesn't feel crazy with Yokovic. It's the third seat. Does tell you something about the landscape, doesn't it? I mean as great as Novak Djokovic is, he's a he is a part time tennis player now and he is thirty nine. What? Yeah. No, thirty nine tomorrow, I think, actually. Oh, okay. Happy birthday, Novak. Okay, that is it for part two. We will be back in part three to talk about the planned media walkout by the tennis players.

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Welcome back to part three of today's tennis podcast, our first of 18 daily tennis podcasts throughout Roland Garros, our drawday show, our second daily tennis podcast from Roland Garros is scheduled to be a media day. show where we go to all of the press conferences, we speak to tennis players, we do some one on one interviews for for Friends of the Tennis Podcast, for our tennis podcast meat series, and then we chat about it all at the end of the day and uh make

irrational assumptions about players form based on throwaway answers they've given to our questions in in press conferences. Whether that will be the show that we're producing tomorrow Who knows? Because this bombshell story broke yesterday while we were at dinner and I was being refused vinegar to go on my chip.

Uh originally reported in The Guardian. Uh the players will walk out of their pre-tournament press conferences after fifteen minutes. The fifteen minutes Um the fifteen minutes this is reported following up today by Ben Rothenberg in his substack that fifteen minutes will be divided up into ten minutes in the press conference room and then five minutes. on camera in a nearby uh room with the host broadcaster. So that's what we call a world feed.

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T V networks that pay a big sum of cash in order to be rights holders at these tournaments and that cash isn't just paid for the rights to show the matches, it's the access to these players in order to tell their stories and to make people at home care. Uh apparently they won't they also won't be participating in any other photo shoots or social media activities that would normally be arranged as part of

Media Day. Usually what happens at Media Day is they come in and do a press conference, then they'll go and do a series of TV interviews. Usually some of them sort of we call them stand up interviews where it Um somebody there with a microphone quite often in front of a a backdrop where they'll just ask two or three questions and then the big TV networks will hopefully get some of the players to come to their studio session. And it was sort of more more involved, more time consuming.

sit down interview. Apparently, as is planned at the moment, none of that is gonna be happening tomorrow. Uh as reported in the athletic yesterday, the players are understood to have studied the tournament rule book and concluded that they will not be fined for this action so long as they fulfil their contractual obligations to conduct a a short flash interview with rights holders after each match.

So that an indication that they're planning to continue this action throughout the tournament. There is a meeting scheduled between the players and the tournament officials on Friday evening, Larry Scott. uh is scheduled to be in attendance at this meeting. He's the big dog that is kind of herding all the tennis player cats together and doing a doing a good job of it. Getting getting these players on the same page to do anything in a coordinating way is not easy and indications are that

Does seem to be happening to some extent, David. What do you what do you make of this move? From the players. Well I'm not surprised if anybody's capable of getting combined action, it is Larry Scott. He he's somebody I worked for at the ATP, he was the head person at the WTA. The person that helped drive through equal prize money at Wimbledon in two thousand and seven alongside Billy Jean King and Venus Williams. Um

When he talks you do listen. You uh uh but you're you're quite right, Catherine. When you think of how difficult the professional tennis players association have found it to to get everybody to do the same thing. Um This is quite unusual, but what he's done is he's siphoned off the top ten players, the ones with the most influence.

and he's got all of them on side and it seems to have filtered down. We'll wait and see how it actually is tomorrow. And the fact is they are still doing their press conferences and they are still doing five minutes for T V. So it's not like a Yeah, if they'd had not been doing anything, that would have been really interesting. Um maybe not so for for trying to gather content. But I think it's it's gonna be an effective

um boycott in terms of creating attention. We're here talking about it. It's been reported everywhere. Um I think it does put some pressure on the tournament because they can't deliver to their to their big money paying rights holders the kind of access that they want. Um those those the levers that are being pulled here, um they won't lead to them getting exactly what they want. But it's a step.

to show that they mean business and they will probably get some reaction out of the Grand Slams. That well then it Is that gonna be enough for them to not do anything else in the future? Probably not. You're probably gonna have a series of these things and then it'll depend on whether they can get close enough to what each of them what the the slams are prepared to give up and the players want in order for them to back down.

But I don't I don't see this being a one and done. You know, I d I th this this makes me feel like okay, w these the players under this leadership, under this influence mean business. Yeah, I think that's the biggest takeaway for me, how how quickly they seem to have mobilized and how okay, we haven't seen it yet, but how well they seem to be sort of

aligning on message and doing the same thing and that sense of collective action I think has come about quicker than I expected. Uh just based off those comments in press conferences from from Rome a few weeks ago. So I think I think this is a a step that it's serious. Um and I think not you know, not talking to the rights holders will hurt the tournament. I think there's something in that.

But I think ultimately the players are gonna have to get to a point where they're giving up something. Where th where there's something sort of really meaningful impact for them and th them doing less media for most of them is sort of sort of in their own interest rather than rather than the opposite and I think to get the the full action at the end that they want.

I think they'll have to they'll have to give up something themselves and it doesn't really feel like that's what this is at this stage. But I do agree with David that it can it can maybe snowball and escalate from here over the years. Yeah, I think that's I mean f I I know I know that's where I come down as well. Look, they've certainly demonstrated here that I mean, assuming they pull this off tomorrow that

organisation and coordination wise, you know, they have something about them, no doubt. Um but in terms of their will and what they're prepared to do I'm not sure this proves much. at all. Like the power of a protest or and strike action is in the unions preparedness to sacrifice for what they want, to fall on To fall on your sword for the greater good. You know, Billie Jean King sacrificed Grand Sam Time.

to achieve what she did for women's sports and women's rights, that was worth it to her. And the the phrase studying the tournament rule book to to identify exactly what moves you can make without being fined. Well Billy Jinking that that ain't, you know. Like yes, I agree, this will hurt. You know, there is power in hitting the broadcast contracts, no doubt, but Does it signal to me or to Roland Garros most importantly that

And the other grandslums of course that that these players would actually be prepared to put something meaningful on the line to achieve their aims. Like not at all. Maybe they would be, but this This doesn't go any way towards that. I d I don't. No certainly not yet. Uh I I w we would have have to go back in time to know exactly how things unfolded.

around the strike of Wimbledon in nineteen seventy three and talking of of all the stands that Billie Jin King took, but I think all of those were incremental and Part of negotiations, meetings, pressure. Uh if you don't we're gonna do this now because you're not Not meeting. And now we're gonna do this. But ultimately if the the slams really did dig their heels in and decide

Sorry, no, we're just not going to. Then autumn in the end they will have to show their teeth in a far more meaningful way in the future if they really want to get what they want. It'll be it'll be interesting to see how how hard the the slams do dig. And whether they all dig in Together. I mean so so I think it's Roland Garros that the players are meeting with tomorrow night and then the US Open and Wimbledon have meetings scheduled

later in the fortnight. I think the Australian Open is sitting tight and Uh They've got a while to wait, so they can afford. We'll see we'll we'll see how these canaries down these mines go and we'll we'll let you know what our plan. Yeah. And then Wimbledon's next to announce its price. Prize money.

Yeah, it's y I mean that is a very interesting facet to it, the fact that the Slams themselves aren't aren't united. It does feel a bit to me like, you know, calling a strike by saying we're only going to work Our contracted hours. Not a moment over. I'm going home at 5 pm. That's not a strike. Thanks for my It's just doing precisely what you're paid to do. She's doing the bare minimum. Millions of people are doing that every day. Some tennis players. I mean quite a lot of them.

by no means all or even the majority. But there are tennis players that say to communications managers after the match when they come to them with their list of requests and say, Oh what am I contractually obliged to do? I'll do that. Like that's really common.

It's quite funny when we realized that the the demand was fifteen minutes to represent the fifteen percent that they're getting as the proportion of revenue and then we realised not one player's press conference has ever gone to fifteen minutes that any of us can remember. It's gonna be an interesting day tomorrow. I'm c I'm sort of quite excited. Yeah, it's something new, something different. Keep us on our toes. Um yeah, we will be back tomorrow with a show. What's gonna be in it?

But we will be back.

The time has come to unveil our mascot for Roland Garros 2026. It is a returning Roland Garros mascot. It is one of my legacy favorites. It is Bashir the cat. Bashir that my mum fell so in love with she demanded I source some pictures uh so that my mum could do a portrait. Beautiful portrait it is. A truly stunning cat. You will want to see pictures of this cat, trust me. We love that.

Multiple grand slams around the world Matt has received premium dates from Elise. Uh so thank you, Elise. It is great to have you and Bashir back on board. We also have our mascot. Grand Slam putting up with us. We have Bodie, Maisie and Roger. Hello to you. And just just on the subject of Roger, Carrie. Os ydych chi'n gwneud, ac rwy'n gwneud, Cary. Rwy'n gwneud, rydych chi'n gwneud, ond rwy'n gwneud, ond rwy'n gwneud.

Carrie's Roger's owner and Carrie sent me just the loveliest little care package. For no reason other than being lovely in the post the other day. I opened it just before coming out here and it was just Just the loveliest thing. So thank you, Carrie. Uh hello to our top folks and executive producers Greg, Chris and Jeff. Matt, let's have some Royal Garrel shout-out. We have Coda Farha from Sydney, Australia. Hello Coda. Coda says I named my cat Dasher after Kasakina. A Sabalenka section.

Hason mes round one. I bet that's a good good atmosphere. Good match. Yeah. Oh, that's lovely. Coda in I forget what language it is, but it means a friend to every friend to everyone. And Coda is our friend officially. So that that works. Say. Thank you, Coda. We also have Alison Le Maire. Oh. Hi, let's say. Well that works as well. Alison says, we spend our time between New York City and Washington, Connecticut. And Alison says I've been listening since before the days of Grad Map.

My husband and I are heading towards retirement and our goal is to start working our way through the slams. It's the way. Australia left and the thousands and five hundreds, at least one per year for the rest of our lives. Brilliant! Yeah, yeah. And now What a tree. And David and I met Luke earlier today who who'd been listening since twenty twelve. There's twelve? Episode twelve in twenty twelve. Wow. Thank you, Luke. I don't know.

And finally we have Thomas from New York, but originally from Belgium. Hello Thomas. Like four There's a new fave in waiting. And uh Thomas sent sent his shout out in the week. Medvedev won Dubai and says as Medvedev wins his first repeat. Title on a walkover, brackets legend. I would love to give a big shout out to two dear pod listener friends, Simone and Mark. With whom I attended the feverish Medvedev Lopez match at the 2019 US Open. Oh my What a match to have attended.

He was he was sending uh he was sending Medvedev to sleep at night. Yeah. Ha ha. What a thing to have been there for. Thomas, that is absolutely iconic. You've you've shared in a piece of important tennis history there. Uh so thank you. Thomas, Simone, Mark, Alison and Coda, thank you ever so much for being friends of the Tennis Podcast. We are part of the Athletic Podcast Network. We are here for the next

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