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French Open Day 5 - Sinner STUNNED! What happened, and what now?

May 28, 20261 hr 20 minEp. 1508
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Summary

Day 5 of the French Open saw a shocking upset as Jannik Sinner, a tournament favorite, collapsed dramatically against Juan Manuel Cerundolo, sparking debates about heat, conditioning, and competitive mind games. This pivotal loss has opened up the men's draw, offering new opportunities for other players, including emerging talents like 17-year-old Frenchman Moise Kouame, who delivered a thrilling performance. Meanwhile, the women's draw saw strong performances from Coco Gauff, Aryna Sabalenka, and Naomi Osaka, alongside inspiring stories of comeback and resilience.

Episode description

Catherine, David and Matt react to Jannik Sinner’s loss at Roland Garros, a result which blows the whole tournament wide open.

Part one - Men’s draw. We discuss how Sinner’s dramatic defeat to Juan Manuel Cerundolo unfolded as his 6-3 6-2 5-1 lead evaporated and his body wilted in the heat. How did Sinner explain what happened in his press conference? And what does it mean for the tournament? Ben Shelton, the fifth seed, has already failed to capitalise, while 17-year-old Frenchman Moise Kouame lit up Lenglen again.

Part two - Women’s draw (49:25). We cover another day of convincing wins for Coco Gauff, Aryna Sabalenka and Amanda Anisimova, a big win for Naomi Osaka, and more very special scenes involving Oleksandra Oliynykova.

Part three - Mousquetaire of the day and Day 6 Order of Play, including Novak Djokovic vs Joao Fonseca in the day session (1:07:21).

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Intro / Opening

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Sinner's Shocking Collapse and Aftermath

B

Hello and welcome to the tennis podcast coming to you from the grounds of the French Open, the second Grand Slam of the tennis season. It is Thursday evening here in Paris. It is 9 pm. Day five out of a fifteen day tournament and Yannick Sinner, the overwhelming and prohibitive favourite for the men's title, is out. He was defeated in extraordinary circumstances in the second round.

by the world number fifty six Juan Manuel Surundalo, brother of the better known and higher ranked Francisco Surundalo, having led Sinner Two sets to love and five one. He was a game away from an efficient, comfortable victory when all four wheels Came off at once. From 5-2 in the third set, Senna lost 18 points in a row. This is a man that has won his last. thirty tennis matches. He won only two further games in the entire match. He was

A

A ghost.

B

any power from his legs at all, just swiping up the tennis ball and hoping for a miracle. It looked, David, a replica of what we saw from Cinnet in Australia against Elliot Spitsiri Except this time there was no roof to save him.

C

Yeah, I think that sums it up pretty well because at two sets to love and four love in fact in the second set I decided to go and give my mum a call.

because I thought, okay, we haven't really got anything eventful going on. This seems like a good window. I think we spent twelve minutes on the phone and by the time I came back to the screen Cine was still serving for the match but at five four now and Rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'.

He he really couldn't he looked like he didn't really know where he was. He w he was sort of wandering around the baseline, trying to regain his focus, trying not to be sick, or trying to be sick if it would help him. You know he He was lost. He was lost suddenly and Surundalo was very very clever. He worked out if I keep this ball in and I keep this guy moving and he was aided and betted by some very clear coaching instructions that

This was likely to be a win for him. The thing is, as you say, no rule for it's it's always one of those, is it gonna get so hot that that literally the rules intervene and you have to cool things down? That's what happened in Australia, that's what happens quite a lot of the time.

But if there's nowhere to go, if you've got to carry this match on, there's only so much you can do. They did the off court medical timeout. They did a lengthy assessment. You wonder whether that might revive him and give him enough time in the cold. air conditioning in order to to feel better but as soon as he came back out after that and as soon as he lost that third set and he came back out again you looked at him you thought no he can't do he can't play tennis he can't play properly at all.

B

Yeah, I mean look we were all on alert going into this match. As soon as Cinner was scheduled in the day session, you know, with the weather as it is here in Paris, we were all on alert, eyes on on Yannick Cinner in a way that Rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy.

And it did have a feel of Yannick Sinner being on the clock. You know, it did feel like he was trying to get the job done quickly and not expend any extraneous energy out there. But I had let my guard down by by five one in the third set. I thought we're out of the woods here with Yannick Sinner. because he only had a a game to go and it felt like such a formality and he had such a big lead at that point. But

As you made the point to me earlier, Matt, like that was exactly when we shouldn't have let our guards down and been on high alert. I don't think it was a really unfortunate coincidence or a stroke of bad luck that it happened with just a game to go with the that invisible finish line hovering in front of his nose.

D

Exactly. You know, we were just under two hours into this match. Okay, it was a very, very hot day, but I think it was the stress of the finish line is here and I can get this done now. that kind of brought it on. I just don't think it's a coincidence that the happened to Cinner as the finish line was right there, you know? Um and then when it did start happening we debated about which day session slot would be the best one for Cinner if he did have to play in the day.

And I think when we all saw him scheduled first, we thought, okay, that's good, he can probably get it done before it gets really hot. The thing is though when it's when it started affecting him and he was struggling to play, there was then no escape. There was then no tryna extend set four as long as you can and wait to the fifth and hope that a shadow comes over the court or hope that the temperature cools.

It must have just been a sinking feeling for him in that moment, knowing that he can't play and there is no help coming his way this time and he was stuck and I really feel for Yannick Sinner, you know. Um he he he he has proven to be better than anyone on the men's tour in the last few months and he has conquered tennis in that way and he's been knocked out of a tournament.

Un tennis reasons, you know, for for the heat, the way he's feeling, and there was nothing he could do about it. The best tennis player in the world, there was nothing he could do about it. And it you know, it was like a slow death for the next set and a half on court. It was agonizing to watch and yet you kinda knew the outcome. It was It was crazy and it didn't it didn't have the thrill that an upsets normally do.

Debating Sinner's Condition & Genetics

B

The atmosphere. The atmosphere was so strange out there. I mean for for most of the match the stadium was half empty because it was too hot to sit outside. Now when the situation started unfolding it did fill up, but it was still Soporifics, it's too hot to generate any any real oomph, um certainly in the heat of the day. And it was just so bizarre. It it almost didn't feel appropriate to be cheering for anyone.

D

And we'll get onto it. There was a split screen situation happening where a seventeen year old Frenchman had everyone's attention at the same time. And that couldn't have been more thrilling. It was so weird having those two screens side by side and those two polar opposite experiences happening at the same time.

B

Now some people would counter what you've just said there about Yannicksson and losing for non tennis reasons here and say they would say well being con being conditioned for these temperatures and these conditions is part of being a tennis player. I don't feel that way. I I don't think Uh there is much within Yannix in his control that he can do about this. There might be some, there might be some, but I don't think there is much, quite frankly. I think he's been doing what is

within his control. I'm I'm not a doctor nor a total expert. I am quite a pale person that that struggles in the heat and like would would love to be able to do something about that. Um but I I don't see this as a loss of condition just like I rarely see cramp as a loss of condition. Look it can be, but it's it's so often isn't. It's it's almost genetic and look, we can all see what Yannick's complexion is. Like there are genetic at play here. And look we can't

answer that debate once and for all, can we? Because you know, we're not qualified to, but that is that is my feeling on it.

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Mm.

C

I think the one counterpoint I would make to that is that all the players that aren't born with his physical gift. have to make do with what they've got and This was one of their days today.

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is part of sport. He's got he's got this genetic disadvantage but he's got other genetic advantages.

C

He's got this incredible balance. He grew up as a skier. He's got these lashing ground strokes. He's got this incredible temperament. Everybody would love to have these things, but they haven't got them. Good for him, he's the best as a result of it. But on a given day, their genetic benefits come into their own. And we saw it today with a guy from Paraguay who looked

fr incredibly fresh against Moïse Coime, the young French guy who eventually got the job done. We saw it with Surundalo today. He and and I mean I totally take your point. I still would love to know if Cinna were to to spend Twelve months in Miami. Uh and live there.

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You might die.

C

Well, whether he would get whether he would be able to m get more used to it. I mean I th and I'm mindful that he's saying that it's not due to to heat. I I know what you mean. If if the rules were changed and and you had to play tennis tournaments in certain conditions, then they would all those would be the tennis conditions. But at the moment, the way it's written, this these this is one of the conditions as well.

D

I suppose what I'm saying, and maybe I'm you know, just not being clear enough with my words, is that he wasn't

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Outplay.

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You know, in a way that like a like a thrilling upset can happen and you

C

Yeah.

D

Right, or even like sometimes you might see a really top seed lose to someone that you just don't see coming at all and and you get that that buzz, that thrill of, wow, look at this player we weren't expecting, playing to the level of a top seed and beating them. And okay the top seed's not at their best that day, probably, but it's happening for tennis reasons and you're seeing great shop making and all of that kind of stuff. I suppose

That's the point I'm I'm trying to make. I I'm not by any means saying that being able to cope in tough conditions isn't an important part of being a tennis player and an important attribute that guys and women round here are using to their advantage and should be able to use their advantage. I I would take issue with anyone who who says that sinner is not conditioned.

and isn't doing, I'm sure, all that he can within his power and within his reason to try and improve this issue, because I'm sure that he is. Other players as as you've said are are better able to cope with it and it was one of those matches where

Juan Manuel Serundalo took advantage of that and did and did play smartly, tactically, for the second half of this match and played in absolutely the way he he should do. So in that in that respect there were tennis reasons at play. But yeah, it just didn't have the the feeling, the buzz that you would expect an upset of this magnitude to have because of the way it played out.

Sinner's Press Conference & Defense

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The buzz came for us when he was called to the press conference room. When the announcement came well, the announcement came Yannick Sinner is coming, I think it was four forty at the time. uh and that was eight minutes, it was it was four thirty two at that time. And then thirty seconds later it was Yannick Sinner's coming now. Yannicksen is on his way and then five seconds after that it was Yannick's in the main press conference room.

It was a stampede. We've s we've seen some Quite like that, David.

C

No, the the entirety of the press room just immediately stood up. And just tr just went towards the interview room. And there's this big bottleneck of people trying to get in there while Yannick Sinners just sat there mixing one of his hydration drinks because he's come early.

And um and and it you know, fair play to him, he l he let us all get in the room before they started the press conference and every single seat was filled. The entire corridor on the left of the room was filled with standing room only and then there were people

Basically queuing out of the door and looking over heads in order to try to get a look at what Yannick Sinna was doing and saying. Um and Yeah, that is as dramatic a press conference as I've been in in terms of yeah, results or or a uh or an upset like that.

B

And what he said was... Pretty surprising, I think. I I I was pretty surprised by it on on reflection I think having had chance to process it, maybe it's not that big a surprise, but you hinted at it earlier, David. Yannick Sinner is insisting today's result wasn't because of the heat. He said he woke up this morning and didn't feel very well.

in a quite unspecific way. He didn't call it illness or anything. He just said he woke up feeling not great. He hadn't slept very well. Uh he said he he was trying to keep the points short from the start and that was working and then he just hit the wall. He said he had started to feel it in the middle of the third set.

specifically asked about the heat, he said it was warm but not crazy warm, it was okay to play and he was very specific that today was in his words complete a completely different scenario. to what happened in Australia earlier this year and what happened in Shanghai last year when he had to be physically helped off off the court by ATP ATP staff. He was uh he was unable to move.

Now look, I I think there's there's two scenarios here with what he said. Number one is this is defence and deflection. because it must be excruciating to have your biggest vulnerability exposed in the way it was for him today. It certainly in in terms of what it what it looked like and exposed in such a like long, drawn out way, death by a thousand cuts, you know, you you go and get images and there's four pages of pictures of Yannick Sinner

looking at death's door. You know, like it is all out there for the world to see, for all his rivals to see. I think that is one very likely scenario that it is defence and deflection and he doesn't want to kind of add to the myth of this issue that he has by confirming it and voicing it and that would be very understandable. The other scenario is we take him at his word and say, okay, wasn't the heat. This would have happened regardless of the heat.

Well then why did he wake up feeling so physically poor? Could be stroke of bad luck, could be contributed to by the amount of tennis that he's played. yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, yna, what do you think is the most likely person or thing

To stop Yannick Sinner from winning this title and do you think it'll actually happen? Well a lot of people a lot of us said the heat. Charlie said playing Rome, basically. He said his theory is there's no way he plays Rome if it's not Rome, if it's Hamburg or I've done this before, haven't I? And I've failed to come up with other cities. I'm doing it to myself again. I'm in a cul-de-sac. Lisbon. Um and I

And and look, the answer here is it's it's not binary, right? It's probably a combination of all of these things, but I think we have to look at that right. He did say towards the end of the press conference, I need some time off.

C

Yeah, I mean he said I I I probably won't play before Wimbledon. I w probably won't play the Warmer at all. Um because he quite clearly needs a break. He he he won them all. He won Monte Galo, Madrid, Rome. It's so much tennis, it's so much time on the road.

B

Was it a mistake? Playing that full schedule.

C

I I I kind of feel a little bit like he does, that we trying to draw cause and effect. and and feel confident that it is that is very, very difficult. Um Rome means so much to him that it would have been really difficult not to play that. I do think there was an argument for not playing Madrid. We've seen Alcraz not play it and and freshen himself up.

And win Roland Garros. We've seen him do that twice. I I tend to think that that gives you the best chance of actually getting the one you really want.

B

And for Alcaraz that's a bigger sacrifice than for most players because it's Spain and it's an IMG event, he's IMG, you know, that is a big call for Alcaraz.

C

Yeah. And look, he'd never won Rome before and he really wanted to win that. And he he wasn't to know that he would have this problem, um, for a start. So actually making these decisions is really difficult.

B

You say that. But he's had this problem before.

C

Yeah, I I I mean I think the the one of the scenario I'm mindful that all we can do is A listen to what he said and either take it at completely face value or B speculate. Um we're we're inevitably going to do some of of the latter as well. I I think it's a bit of a coincidence that it looks exactly the same. And it bloody was hot today. Okay, it wasn't as hot as Australia, but it didn't happen happen as quickly as it happened in Australia. It took

more time, it's just that there's nowhere to go here. You can't you can't cover up. You can't cool yourself down. So listen I'm not saying that you didn't feel bad this morning when he woke up. I think the other thing you've got to wonder is maybe there was stress involved. Maybe he was aware of how hot it's gonna be today and he was stressed and he didn't sleep because of it. It would be completely normal if that was the case. Listen

Most people around here are not sleeping greys at the moment because it's it's uncomfortable weather. Um Maybe he's got a virus, maybe he's got a bug. These I'm not calling him a liar, but I am I I'm telling you, we what I saw today looked incredibly similar to what I've seen before.

B

I don't th also I don't think it's lying. I mean I I don't expect anybody necessarily to come in that press conference room and tell us the whole truth the whole time. You know, they've got a competitive advantage to try and defend. I wouldn't not taking him at face value there I wouldn't I suppose technically it's lying, but I I wouldn't

C

I don't hold it against him at all. You know, um uh people are always sort of giving aversion because you know you do you you wanna you wanna protect yourself really and I'm okay with that. But he must be He must be well pissed off and worried, really. Generally, because even if this one was down to a bug, it's still a problem.

Future Implications for Sinner's Career

D

Yeah, and look, I I come down on the side of combination of all of these things. I I think I would put more weight on the heat than he did, but I understand why he's Not gonna do that in the press conference but I I d like I just think he finishes this match. If it's a twenty degree day and it's six three, six two, six two. You know, I do think the heat was whether it was the single cause of

what ended up happening to him, maybe not, but I think it was definitely a contributing factor or the stress of it and thinking it's gonna happen. I I'm I'm sure that the heat is playing a role here. Because we've seen it happen before, you know? It's not this is not a one off. I I think the the slight surprise to me is that It can happen to him in Paris. You know, I I didn't think that Paris and Wimbledon would be this hot to be able to affect

Yannick Sinner, you know, I we've seen him in a really sticky US Open night session, cramp, and we've seen him in Australia have issues. Two years in a row, you know, with with Runa and um Spitziri. So And it okay it didn't quite get to that hot, but it was still extremely hot here in Paris all week. And the build up, the accumulation, the stress, all of that I think has affected him here. And as much as and and and he's got

because of because of how much he's played, he's just starting from a with a more empty tank than most, you know? So I think it's everything and Yeah, I hope he has a good few weeks off.

B

Hmm. Biggest major shock since David, ich meine, es gab... Mae yna'n graffaith y gwaith y gwaith y gwaith Yannick Sinna'n pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau

Again, not a reflection of Yannick Sinner being better than Peak Nadal. It's about how good Sinner is relative to relative to the opposition. And here look, maybe they should have priced in more the th this physical element, but I think at the time Mae'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau'r pethau.

overwhelming odds here was Raphael Nadal at the two thousand and nine French Open. And maybe we should have known at that point, maybe that was a glaring clue that something weird was gonna happen. Um because of course Something truly shocking happened at that French open and he lost to Robin Sodling.

But yeah, a a a according to the stats this is as big as it gets shockwise. I guess in the context of the weather forecast and knowing what we know about Yannick Sinna that takes the edge off the shock but Kind of two weeks ago before this this weather forecast had presented itself when it felt unthinkable for it to be thirty five degrees in May in Paris.

C

Yeah it's it's an enormous shock. It's right up there with one of the biggest the I Scene. I I I think Nadal was bigger as a as a shock in the moment just because of how dominant he was at this tournament. The fact that he'd never lost.

since playing it for the first time in two thousand five. He'd won it every year up until then, four four times before he lost at all. Um but Soderling was a very, very good player, and I'm not saying Sorundler isn't a good player, but to take your analogy at the start of this podcast, Matt. Soderling knocked Nadal off the court that day. He played tennis that was just devastating. I mean I don't think Nadal was 100% fit at all. But he wasn't he wasn't terrible and he was knocked off the court.

today this was just before and after. And and I realise we're not giving Sarundalo really much in the way of credit because it's so difficult to not to look past how one sided this match was until Cinner started to feel unwell. I think Sarindala did an incredible job to do his to play his part. Shocks. It's it's because Cinner has been dominant this year, it's because he and Alkaz have completely overwhelmed the opposition for years now and Alkraz isn't here.

So the thought that Cinner would lose in the second round of the tournament is is staggering.

D

Yeah. the biggest shock in a very, very long time in terms of the bigger picture of the tournament and a player's odds going into it and that ending up not coming close to happening, you know, like that is shocking. I do think that in the moment we've had some very shocking results more recently than even saddling, like Vinci beating Serena was like that blew my mind when that happened. And I would also say Estamin beating Djokovic, maybe the Australian Open on on that court with Djokovic as

you know, okay, he was sort of right there at the top with Andy Murray, wasn't he? Um those two results stand out to me as As shocking in the moment, I suppose, but I'm not sure Djokovic was as big a pre tournament favourite at that Australian Open as as Sinnoh was here. I do think Serena, by the time she got to that semi final, you know, it's just that she was going for something so big, I suppose everyone was

was on some alert that something might happen, trying to make history in that in that sense. So yeah, I I think the historical context is important. It's just this one is is hard to compare because it's so unlike the others because of the circumstances of it and the way it played out.

B

Assuming this is a a largely genetic issue that can't be solved and that he is already doing everything he can, I mean, generally speaking this sort of thing tends to get worse as you age. rather than better, but time will tell. I know this is an impossible question'cause it's kind of throwing so far into the future and so many unknowns, but how much do you think this could dent his eventual Grand Slam tower?

C

Well I d I do think it is the one thing That is a frailty about Yannick Sinner. He's got everything. He has got everything in terms of being a tennis player and he's getting better too. You know, and I think what he's done since the US Open last year when he decided he wanted to introduce variety into his game.

amazed what he's achieved with that. Um he's made himself a better player. He's got a g a great physique. His athleticism is amazing. He's I I can never get over his temperament. Um This is the one thing that is problematic and and I guess to some degree it will depend how tennis responds to the climate.

And how tennis responds to weeks like this where so many players seem to be getting affected and incr and also injuries have happened. Are they gonna do some proper research and investigations into whether they could be doing something differently with the structure of the sport to stop some of these injuries. If if it stays as as it is, well I think you'll probably be at the mercy of the weather and th and being a little bit fortunate with with

roofs coming over and stuff like that. But I could definitely uh the the French Open. I mean if it if we have other weeks like this. It's very difficult to not end up playing in these conditions at least once or twice. We've seen it. I mean he he he gets plenty of night sessions, he gets Probably pretty pre favorable scheduling which I've got to say I don't agree with. I just don't think that should be allowed.

B

I mean even today. Rydyn ni'n meddwl, mae'n ymwneud hynny'n ymwneud hynny'n ymwneud hynny'n ymwneud hynny'n ymwneud hynny'n ymwneud hynny'n ymwneud hynny'n ymwneud hynny'n ymwneud hynny.

C

Well it's I mean certainly when you look at the the record, I mean it's three years odd um that that's been the case. Um So I I think it continues to be a problem and a bit of pot luck. Like I said, I would like to know whether he is gonna do something extreme within his preparation. uh throughout the year in order to see if something can be done to counter it. Most likely he most likely this isn't the last time we see him affected badly in a Grand Slam tournament because of the heat.

D

Yeah, I agree. And a and as I just said, I think adding adding European levels of heat wave into the mix of French Open and Wimbledon is something I hadn't really accounted for. I I I knew it was a problem he had, I didn't quite realise the extent to the problem, I suppose. Um because look Lots of people have been affected here. Heat the heat has been very, very real.

But I think that is the earliest I've seen someone affected in a match that was not close. You know, it it wasn't like And look, we have to take into account what what Sin is saying and how he's not feeling well and and we take into account the preparation of course but It it it affects him seemingly more than kind of anyone else in the draw, and yet he's the best player in the world. There's this tremendous

contrast there. Um so yeah, I agree with David. I I totally think that if if big changes are not made to the sport and how it deals with heat, then Yannick Sinner is gonna keep facing those consequences and sometimes he'll Have favourable scheduling and be at night or be on the day when it's not the heat, you know, like the luck will probably go both ways, but I'm sure that there will be occasions in the future where we see Sinner in this sort of position again.

Men's Draw Blown Wide Open

B

Now what about where this leaves the top half of the men's draw already the weaker half but for Yannick Sinner and then Medvedev lost and made it that bit weaker. Alexander Bublik lost a couple of days ago to it it was already starting to look a bit threadbare but but was being propped up by Yannick Sinna at the top there. And now we are left with, well, a barren land, but also a land of opportunity. Now, we are recording this show slightly before the end of play. We've prioritised...

Urgency given the hugess of the annex in a story. So there are a few matches still on court. by two sets to love to Rafael Colignon, the fifth seed, Ben Shulton, who has been consistently losing to Carlos Alcaraz and Yannick Siner at slams is in a position of Well his eyes lighting up and who knows if that has anything to do with what's currently going on on Suzanne Longland. Difficult for us to talk about too much right now'cause the result not in but

He sure is in a pickle. Mateo Berottini and Otto Rindikanesh still on court. Berottini leading by a set to love. Sitzapas and Arnaldi still on court and uh Arnaldi leading by a set to love. Darderi is in a fifth set against Commissania and actually it is Commissagna serving for that. So potentially the fourteenth seed Luciano da Dari going out. What what a day for the Italians. What a couple of days for the Italians. Um Somebody wild is reaching the French Open final here, right?

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Yes. Um you know, it feels a little bit like the twenty twenty US Open to me, that covet one where a you could call it a freak incident. Here it's it's the heat and Yannick Sinna succumbing to that and there it was Novat Djokovic getting defaulted and suddenly the whole draw looks different and everyone kind of shut themselves. The tennis we saw for the next few rounds was lowest quality tightest tennis I've ever seen and it was made dystopian by the fact that there was no one around of course.

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And we were watching it all in the middle of the night.

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It was so weird.

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Bad memories of

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But in a in a way it was compelling and intriguing and quite fun, right? And I th it's not quite the same as that because in the Other half here, you've still got Kasparud, who's been to the final here, and you've still got Alexander Zverev, who's been to the final here, and you've still got Novat Djokovic, who's won 24 Grand Slans. But in the sinner half,

which was the half not to be in a few days ago, is now the half everyone wants to be in, because it's been vacated by Cinna. I think we could see some wild stuff. happening with people knowing that the opportunity is there. I'm looking at you, Flavio Caballi. I'm looking at you, Francisco Sarundolo. I'm looking at you, Lerner Tien, who saved match points today. And it was like Fascinating even seeing Martin Landaluce win his match today.

N he knew that he had to play the winner of Cinnas Arundalo and he gets told in the post-match interview that he does for Spanish TV that Cinners lost. And he's like, What? He d doesn't understand it. Like i i and and he was like, Oh, I was kinda looking forward to playing Galaxy, no but then also like you c you see his f face change and suddenly it's like whoa

Thank goodness I battled through and won that fifth set'cause now there's an opportunity in front of me. Like it just changes everything for so many people and as as much as tennis players will tell you, one match at a time and I'm focusing on the next point and the next whatever, you can't escape. the enormity of this story and what it's done to the drawer. And yeah, we could be in for a fascinating few days, particularly on that side of the draw.

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We could be in for an all surindalo semi final. Who saw that coming? Uh because Francisco also won today. He beat Hugo Gaston in four sets. I'm not sure needing four sets to be injured, Hugo Gaston says semi-final form, but But we will see they're competing for the title and for the role of good surunderloe. Which is now up for grabs.

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And and his interview was funny as well because he was he was saying that while he was playing Gaston, people in the crowd were telling him, Your brother won, your brother won and he didn't know whether they were tryna

You know, whether they were telling him the truth, whether they're trying to put him off, he was playing a Frenchman, you know. So he he he had to wait for the post match to be confirmed as well. Like I I love Yeah, I do I do love that element of a big story and the way the way it sort of ripples through the ground.

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Kaboli incidentally did win today, as did Tien, as Matt said, in uh in five sets for Tien, straight sets for Kaboli. They now play one another in the third round, which is a A big a big yes please. Francis Tiafo won today in five against Hubert Hirkach. He's got Jaime Farrier next to Came through qualifying, now won two rounds, beat Gregor Dimitrov in the first round of qualifying, did Farrier. What a run for him. Uh Felix Uger Aliasim

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Oh my god, are we in a what if for Grigor again?

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I didn't mean to.

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No, we're not.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It'd be Felix's year. Exciting, isn't it?

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Um

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So yeah, which again looks like it's gonna be well at the moment on Aldi's in the driving seat but uh but we will see. Another name still in that top half of the draw. Remember this name folks.

Moise Kouame: France's New Teen Star

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I was no, not Oz. I was I was led very much astray. But Moisa Kwame, the seventeen year old Frenchman, a water seventeen year old, one of those seventeen year olds I I said in the uh in his post match press conference that makes you reflect very unfavorably on what on earth you were doing at seventeen. He beat Paraguayan Adolfo Vallejo 63753626. Seven six ten eight. In the deciding set tie break in four hours and fifty-six minutes serve and volleying on match point. David Law was there.

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This is amazing. I I I went over early on, uh when when when Matt and I first arrived at Roningaras today, we had plans to to both go and watch the Naomi Osaka and Donovich match and We faced this decision. Do we go straight there with our massive rucksacks or do we put them in the media center? Matt went over and thought, okay, I can lodge my rucksack underneath the seat.

If I'm trying to do that and take care of my legs, then I'm not going to be able to figure pull that off. So I went into the media centre, put mine in there, and then suddenly I heard this roar coming from Susan Longlen Court and I thought.

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It's calling me.

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electric. A and just this is the first time I've got chance to watch him play in person and He's a lovely player for the f for a start. I mean he's got a lovely sort of loose feel the way he holds the racket. He he's kind of strategic but in a in an unstressful way. Um sometimes he'll just roll a couple and other times he just decides every shot I'm gonna pull the trigger and go flat out and he's got true power. There's a real sound to his ground stroke.

Um I was sitting with the the French journalist Eric Salio, uh who who was just jumping out of his seat the way this kid was playing. Um and he was saying, listen to it, listen to the sound of the way he hits the ball. And it's true, there's a there's just a c a clean strike to it. Um the old r uh snapped carrot that Catherine always refers to when somebody can really connect with a ball.

Went two sets to love up. Um looked I thought at that stage as though he was gonna get the job in three sets. I went back to the the the media centre because the Cinner drama was unfolded. And it started to go badly wrong. Two sets all. He he's then down a break. At this point I think oh I just I'm just gonna see if there's any life left in this and I went to tried to get my seat back again and caught Susan Longland.

Couldn't get near the court, couldn't get near the the stadium. There were so many people in the gangways. And that's because hundreds and hundreds of people, thousands of people were watching the big screen outside Susan Longland Court, which was split in two with Cinner staggering around and and very close to defeat and Kwame trying to break back which he did

And uh and he broke back at 5-3 down. I went into the stadium at that point and and the tie break he played for the first seven points he won six of the points. Every one of them was a winner. He just went for broke. He's six one up. But then he lost his his way and it gets back level and and he's there at eight.

points apiece before he finally manages to come up with the shots. The the the servant volley that you referenced falls flat on his back. The place just went wild. I mean the noise in that stadium is as loud as anything I've heard here.

Um and he's cool. He's you know he's seventeen years of age. He's still got so much to come. But the manner in which he handled himself and the the en court interview and and the and the Just the the match generally his sort of innate understanding of when to get intense and get the crown involved and when to just pull back and let it Cruise for a bit.

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Absolutely. F frequent contributor to our Tennis Relived series, you know, s seeing it all, you know, he he used to write for the Evening Standard with Althea Gibson at Wimbledon. That's that's the sort of knowledge of the history of the sport that we're talking about. And he was absolutely buzzing about Kwame. And he's seen he's seen hyped talents come and go, you know, he knows

what hype trains to jump on board on. Yeah, he's just n he's not just getting on board any old hype train is Richard Evans. He was like well he started the sentence and trailed off. He said this he's the biggest talent I've seen since biggest male talent I've seen sin of this age since and then he trailed off and he went Well I guess you'd have to say Boris Becker because he was seventeen when he won Wimbledon. That was nineteen eighty five.

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Yeah.

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You know that is decades and decades and decades. And look, a lot can happen. There's nothing is promised. That's why it's so fantastic he has Richard Gasquet in his box. Rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n rwy'n credu.

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Yeah, there was a moment Matt turned to me and said, I've never seen Gasquet look this happy.

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No. And and invested and committed and looked r right where he wanted to be, which I never felt during his playing career.

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Yeah, his whole his his face looks different. It's it's remarkable and I enjoyed um a little exchange I saw between James Hansen, the tennis editor at The Athletic and Gary Nathan, who obviously wrote the book Changeover on uh Alchemizan Cinner.

And you know, they were talking about how Kwame might be the first player to come along who sort of has some sort of playstyle attributes that they have in terms of of of of the way that they've helped change the sport and in particular what what stands out to me is what James described as demonic out of the corner. in terms of so good, like when stretched out wide. The number of shots Kwame hit today

Stretched out wide, turning defence into attack, particularly off his backhand. That shot up the line was such a threat today and I loved seeing that. I loved his um postmat celebration which was just sticking his whole head and body in the freezer. at the end of the match that was by the court. That was some very relatable stuff from a very unrelatable feat of excellence at seventeen. And then I enjoyed the shout outs um in the postmatch interview that he said

Last year I saw the Roland Garris final where Alcarez saved three match points and what did he say? I never stopped believing. Today when I found myself down th 5-3 in the fifth, I never stopped believing. And he does have this composure about him, on court, as David described, in terms of sensing moments and when to give the crowd something, when to accept something from the crowd. And also in his press conferences, he's very composed, he really

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Seventeen year old takes a moment before speaking. Wild.

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Not a moment, but a second or two before putting away a mid-court forehand sometimes. He's not just smacking it.

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Everything's thoughtful.

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He's wasting his third, he's gonna go the I'm just gonna go the other way. That's fine.

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Yeah, it's one of the great qualities that I think great that ability to to like slow down time. Yeah. And have time on the ball and have time around you. And I he seems to have that. I can't I can't really describe it more technically than that, but he seems to have it.

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Okay, can can I just mention as well as speed around the course because Several times I'm thinking, well there's no point in running for that. And he would get to it with a an exaggerated slide and a lunge and he's got he feels like he's got really long wingspan, he can get to stuff and I mean th is i it it's so exciting. And yet he's pro he may well not go around further, but it

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But he's seventeen and he's in the third round.

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It's amazing.

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And he's got s he's got such great self knowledge. Like this isn't just a kid doing this on instinct that doesn't, you know, just sort of in a hamster wheel, doesn't quite know what's happening, like feel like he's processing it all and really understands himself and what's going on. You know, even that sort of hyping the crowd up in You know, I I know I need to be careful about how often I I do that. He was asked a great question by Tomani Carriol of the Guardian. He said

He asked him, you've never played on a court like Suzanne Longlem before. I mean you've barely played professional tennis before. You are seventeen years old. Like did you know you were a showman before today? Like or is that something you discovered today on this stage in front of these people, you know? Fantastic question. And he said, Yeah, I knew, like I practised these showman moves in practice and he wasn't talking about

trick shots or anything. He was like, I I'll put a finger to my ear, like, ironically at my coach sometimes and I'll do the whole like celebration as if there's a crowd when there's not almost like I've been preparing for this kind of moment my whole life. It was you know, and he said that the mental strength, like, that isn't just something I have. He said I've put a lot of hours of training into that. Seventeen year old. Craziness.

What even is a good drawer at this point? I'm certainly not going to declare that one.

C

And Tabilo is a very, very good player. I mean a lefty he's somebody I often see and I'm taken aback by how good he is. Um because you know, he n he he might not get to the lat stages of the biggest tournaments, but yeah.

th that is no easy draw in terms of um a b a a best of five set match. You know, on paper it's it's you know it's not Yannick Sinna or or or players uh in the top ten but yeah I I d I I hope As excited as I sound about him and I am that people can understand that if he doesn't win next round it's absolutely fine.

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Just to say by the way, while you've been talking there, Ben Shelton and Luciano D'Adery have both lost. I mean D'Adery just the fourteenth seed, he's lost to uh Francisco Comisania. Ben Shelton has lost in straight sets. to Raphael Collignon, who is a good player. You know, he had his breakthrough at the US Open last year, we just watched his interviews, incredibly emotional, huge moment for him. What a miss for fifth seed, Ben Shelton.

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Hãy đăng ký kênh để ủng hộ kênh của mình nhé. There's no getting around it really. I mean it's not his favourite surface, but he has had some results, you know, he he won a title earlier this year uh in Munich, but you know, the last few weeks haven't gone that well but He tends to play his best stuff at the Grand Slams and honestly the moment Cinner went out I thought that Ben Shelton could be the the beneficiary really of of coming through the straw and

Hard it is, how hard professional tennis is and how you just can't bank on anything in professional sport really. Um but there's no question about it. I mean it's just yet another hole in that half of the drawer.

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Women's Draw Progress & Anisimova's Rise

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Welcome back to part two of today's tennis podcast, turning our attention now to the women's side of things here at the French Open. No major upset. For now at least, Victorian Boko is still on court and is set down to Katarina Siniakova, but Coco Goff, Arena Sabalenka, Amanda Anisomova all safely through.

failed to drop any games against Julia Grab her today. Uh Grabha did end up retiring from that match. So a slightly false stat. But a stat that is very much relevant is that Manor Inusmover has now won two major matches in the last twelve months without dropping a set and Matt Roberts has failed to be present at either of them.

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I'm the problem.

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I mean maybe now you just need to keep that up.

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Maybe. Well I could I could try that I suppose at the next round, right? And not go to the start and either she's gonna win Six Love, Six Love, or Six Love by retirement, or she's gonna lose a game and then I'm allowed to go Right. So it's a bit of a win win situation, really.

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So you're allowed to go once she's got a little bit of a little bit

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Has lost the game.

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I sensed a look there wasn't a whole lot of dismatch to to watch or get your teeth into, but I did sense you you were with us in the press room watching on the big screen at the time, I sensed your excitement levels about Amanda and a Samovia that you've been incredibly disciplined. So far. and kept a level head about. I sense the excitement levels rising just a touch.

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You sense correctly. Yeah, I I think coming in I just thought well, she hasn't played in weeks. she's likely to be rusty or out of form and Need a few matches to get going and even then you know could potentially run out of steam, you know, like all all of those things that you would expect from a player who just hasn't played for very long. I've just we haven't had a big sample size, but it seems that she's playing really well. It also seems that her

demeanour has shifted. There just seems to be a lightness to her again, a a s a s a slight pressure off vibe, and that might pick back up if she does go deep in the tournament, but for the moment she just seems to be riding this wave of feeling fresher than everyone else, you know? Like I think that is an advantage that she's got. Everyone has played a lot more tennis than she has over the last few months. And if if her form is fine, then she's got freshness on her side. But

And also like the drawer is pretty open. As soon as that drawer was made, it it didn't look like she had huge obstacles in terms of like getting to the quarters. After that it's she sh you know, if the drawer holds up she'd have to absolutely run the gauntlet to win this thing, potentially golf Sabalenka Schwiontek. I'm I'm by no means thinking that that's gonna happen at this stage. But yeah, I I do think

She she was someone who at the start of the tournament I wasn't really thinking about in terms of going deep here. It feels like that has shifted and she's got a decent shot of that.

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Yeah, Dianne Parry next for her. She's definitely gonna feel fresher than Parry who has Very intense strapping on her thigh. Has won through two matches, beat Anne Lee today in in straight sets, but I don't quite know how she's doing it.

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Parry at her best is a little awkward. Because she's got the slice backhand, she can play with angles on the forehand, like she can get an issue over, I think, out of the hitting zone a bit. Plus you've got the French crowd. Like I do think that that is a s is a far trickier match than an Ismova has had so far.

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likely to be on Chatrier, isn't it? Because well if they put Dianne Parry against Anne Lee on Chatrier, I suspect they'll put Dianne Parry against the fifth seed on Chatrier. Just a hundred I suspect in one of the opening two slots, but Chatrier nonetheless. Coco Goff was on Longland today, six three, six two against Maya Sharif.

Coco Gauff's Dominant Performance

Not loads of Jeopardy in this, but maybe just a few more squeaky bum moments than the score suggests. She can really play Maya Sharif. Like There were quite a few moments in that opening set where it felt like Goth was in control and you know Sharif Sharif pegged her back. But overall I I do like what I'm seeing from Coco Golf so far in this tournament. Only two rounds and Pottopova waiting next. I know you've had that third round meeting sort of sh circled for a while, Matt, but I

I do like this version of Coco Goff that we're saying. She's convincing.

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Yes, I agree. I think she's playing well here. I think getting pots of uh during the period of the tournament where it's still hot. feels like an advantage to me. These are these are very much Coco Goff conditions. In fact she's pretty much brushing them off in terms of conditions at all, isn't she? They're it's pretty normal for her. Um I think what's interesting is that

The serve is far more reliable now. It's just it she's lost she's lost it as a weapon. You know, she's hitting kind of the same serve regularly. And I do think Potapova with her flat return could latch onto that a little bit and find some rhythm. But thing is she's so good at putting pressure on your serve and returning and braking that

You know that that threat is always there and there was a there was a period in this match with Sharif in the first set where it was a slug fest. You know, it was really sticky out there. I went on court

to Longlen and I was there probably for almost half an hour and I didn't even see a game completed because there was back and forth deuce and then there was a medical situation in the crowd. Suddenly we've been playing about fifty, fifty-five minutes and it was still very early in this in this match and there was a chance that that match could have really dragged because the rallies were long. There was a there was a point that Play.

At the four three game in that first set where Sharif wins it against everyone else on tour, I'm convinced. She had this put away volley and Goff just appeared from nowhere and not only had the athleticism but also the hand skills at the end of the run to throw up this perfect lob that just landed Right in the corner of the court over Sharif's head and then Goff won the point from there. That combination of movement of turning defence into attack. I know it's not new with Goth but

It's the first time I'd seen it sort of up close this tournament and in a while'cause I've not been at a tournament watching golf obviously since Australia. It takes your breath away. watching her move and cover a tennis court. When you're you're like, W where do you go? What h how do you get the ball past her if you've not got just a blunt weapon which Sharif doesn't? And I think

for Sharif knowing she would have to play that kind of point over and over again is almost impossible. And uh yeah, Goff Goff came through the second set a little bit more easily. Yeah, I I think she's looking good but I I do agree about Pottopova as A bigger test.

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It's interesting about the serve with golf, isn't it?'Cause we saw her doing that at the US Open first first of all, when she'd just started working with the biomechanist uh Gather McMillan.

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And at that point

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Um a just a temporary sticking plaster, didn't it, to sort of stem the flow with the double faults and yeah, it's not as bad as it was then, but it does seem like it that style of adaptation is slightly not a temporary measure anymore. It is this might be Kokov's approach to serving now.

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I can't imagine it's her approach to serving for the rest of her career. Because you're leaving so much on the table if that if that is the case. This is someone who can crank the serve up to almost a hundred and thirty miles an hour and it's a weapon. But I understand it as a as a measure. It's ba it's maybe been

It's lasted longer than I thought it would, as you said. I thought it would be a really temporary thing, but it it does appear to be what she's doing. Maybe it's a clay thing as well, you know, like She trusts her legs, she trusts herself in rallies, as long as she can get points started with the serve.

She's probably gonna back herself still quite a lot against most players I would say. It'd be interesting to see how it you know, the approach might be different on the on the grass or on the on the quicker US hard courts but She's got to a pretty good place, I would say, with it compared to where it was even a few months ago. Um and the forehands holding up so far as well. Yeah, things are things are trending nicely I think for God.

Sabalenka and Osaka's Journeys

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Arena Sabalenka seven five six two against uh Elsa Giacomo in the uh last day session match of the day on Chatrier today. Wasn't loving the heat, was she? Arena Sabalenka had a device that I'm very keen to get my hands on a sort of fan come electrical cooling thing that she sort of applied to her face. Uh apparently it cools your skin down to nine degrees uh within seconds.

Um I've forgotten the name of it, so not really giving much promo in return, but if the makers of this device would would like to get in touch. and make one available to me. I will sell my soul in terms of promotion in return. Will do anything to obtain this device. Uh and she was She was being made to play for it at at five all, Matt. Elsa Giacomo was doing chaotic things that Irina Sabalenka was not enjoying and had to raise her level to find a way past.

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Would those things be serve and volley, set point down? And see that coming from Elsa Giacomo. And look, Sabalenka had a play on that point, didn't she? It was a was a quite nice serve and volley from Giacomo, but ultimately Sabalenka missed the forehand's running part. Um and yeah, Giacomo then held for for five or got to love fifteen.

you're thinking, okay, this is this is the moment. Can Savalenka respond to an opponent playing well? A crowd you know, Giacomo was whipping them up, she was trying to get them on her side even more than they already were. But

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Kind of.

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champion stuff from Sabalenka in in that period of the match, raised her game, won the tight set, responded as she so often does, and then raced through the second. And I think having that little bit of jeopardy might

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Out there someone out there somewhere in B Lancor, someone's walking around in tennis book us merch samples that we never got either.

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And Cezanne trousers. Someone's looking really snappy out there. Uh so yeah, do get in touch, shark ninja people. Nomio Saka beat Donovekic 7664. A lot of people's kind of circled match of the day on the women's side. It was a good match, not a great match. I felt like Matt, I know you you watched a lot of this live on Longland. I felt like Osaka played too well for it to turn into a a great match.

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Yes, I was impressed with Osaka. I think I was particularly impressed with her on big points when she was down in the score, you know, like she Th there was a lot of breaks in this match. They you know, V Veckic was up a break twice in the first set and Osaka got it back. Um and then Vecic saved three set points serving at five six in the opener. Uh with some brilliant shop making and it I started to think God is this.

This is the best I've seen Donovekic play in a little while, you know, like it was it was good to see that. But then Vecich played a really poor tie break in that first set and Osaka absolutely ran away with it. And that pattern kinda continued in the in in the

start of the second set, um, where there was just an exchange of breaks. Um but I liked I liked how positive Osaka was staying throughout. I felt like she was really there's lots of sort of words of affirmation that she was sort of giving herself. Um and I l I like that she was sort of going after the ball in big moments as we as we would expect from her. Um and yeah, this is her best.

Crazy to think it's the best performance at the French Open since twenty nineteen, getting to the third round when I kinda remember thinking she might do the calendar slam that year, you know, like she'd won back to back slams and we'd we didn't really know like What we know now about how much of a just hardcore player she's been over her career and some of the struggles she's had on the

on the grass and the and the clay. I mean obviously that was I don't think I really thought she was gonna win the Canada slam, but it was such a shock to me when she lost uh Siniarkova at that run on Garros and to think that it's now Well, seven years'til she's got back to that point. You know, I nev you know, you just would never have thought that at the time. Um and yeah, she had a challenging draw, I would say. Siegmund

to play Vecik. She's two very different styles of play she's had to face there as well. And she's she's dealt with it well, I would say, and another another test in in the next round.

Inspiring Stories and Controversies

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Trucking along, beat Claire Lew in three sets today. She now plays Maya Kulinska, who has on five matches in a row now. She qualified uh one through round one and today beat Elisa Merton six four uh when we talked about her a couple of days ago we told you she's she's good friends with Igor Shvantek, same same age as her, came through juniors at the same time and obviously has had nowhere near the career that that I has had. They did kind of turn pro at A similar time, but Kulinska.

stood back, t took a step back from professional tennis for several years. She suffered terribly with depression and has talked about that at great length. There's a a really good piece with her on the on the WTA website. It sounds like she's had a A heck of a journey to get where she is now, and that is a heck of a win against uh against Lisa Merton. So Kwilinska Sakary for a place in the second week.

D

And that forehand of hers, the big lefty forehand jumps up, especially in these conditions on the clay, it's a It's a problem. Chung Chin Wen never really got to grips with it in the first round. I didn't see this match today, but it's a very good win over Merton's. Uh yeah.

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Also wins for Diana Schneider, Anna Kalinskaya, uh Alexandra Olnikova and Olenikova will play Diana Schneider in uh in round number three. Brilliant to see Olenikova's run continue another Russian for her in in round number three.

D

Yes, and Ben Rothenberg reporting that Olinakova came with receipts to her press conference earlier, which was um Photos of Schneider playing at the Gazprom exhibition and screenshots of her of some of her social media likes. Like that that is gonna be you know a a very heightened match, I think, that one. Um David and I watched the end of Olinakova against Beerle earlier and it was f

C

Yeah I mean I mean we we got to a point where so many moon balls were his in the direction of Kim Burrell that she was just sort of half volleying them on the p on the baseline, she was getting so fed up. And y y you did think I mean th the goes to a a tie break at the end there.

And Alanakova finishes it with an underarm serve. Absolutely vicious underspun slice underarm serve and um and manages to win Manages to win the points and and and and the match and you did think Crikey, is this gonna be a slightly frosty handshake given that she's just underarm served her on match point? Kim Burrell just walks up and gives her a massive hug. The loveliest hug. The lun the m she I mean Matt's always saying what a delight she is. She proved it yet again. And that was only

bettered by the hug that Olinikova gave her dad. I mean it was very, very moving to see.

B

Yeah, incredibly moving scenes out there. Incidentally, uh just before we wrap up part two, Victorian Boko fighting back against Katarina Siniakova, there is settled And it's two one in the decider. Okay, that is it for part two. We'll be back in part three with you know what.

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Mousquetaire of the Day & Day 6 Preview

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Welcome back to part three of today's tennis podcast where we have two contenders for musketaire of the day. David and Matt have the opportunity once again to give this coveted title to a human woman. Dianne Parry won a match on Chatrier today. She is in the running to be Musketeer of the day, as is Moisa Kwame, who, as we've discussed at length, also won a tennis match today. On Longlen, are you gonna go with the man or with the woman?

C

I'm gonna opt out and ask you who you're gonna go with.

D

Ha ha ha.

B

Well, I object to this because I wanted to give it to a woman two days ago which wouldn't put us in the pickle here and now of never having given it to a woman. Which is very French oak.

D

I was gonna say in the in the spirit of the French show

B

I would say. David and past Matt have stitched up current David and current Matthew.

D

Cars Matt totally stands by his decision from a couple of days ago.

B

We're okay at the end of this tournament with never having awarded Musqueteira of the Day to a woman.

D

Diane Parry's gonna lose to Amanda Nissamova. They haven't been doing they haven't been doing as as good stuff as the men.

B

I mean look it is QA made today. But I would I'd be up for relitigating Elsa Giacomo from a couple of days ago. Yeah, it's cool.

D

They've lost out to Kwame both times. They've been a bit unlucky with like side of the draw. It's quite made both both times.

B

Yeah. tomorrow folks on the tough side of the men's draw. This is how the day six order of play is looking. Chatrier opens with Magdalene against Iger Schwantek. Back to back women to open up Chatroe Kel Sapriz, second on Ismir Andreva against Marie Buscova. And now here's the surprise in the day session tomorrow.

Joel Fonseca against Novak Djokovic and in the night session Frenchman Conta Alice up against Alexander Zverev in the night session. Now Matt, you did circle that one as a possible that they could pin in the night session, but I think we all settled on the likelihood that it would be Fonseca Djokovic. The plot thickened slightly by the reporting that Djokovic actually had requested day session yesterday, so it's possible he did again?

I would be surprised given the state he was in after the match yesterday in press and how furious he was about the extra time that he had to spend out there in the sun. He mentioned the conditions a lot in that in that press conference. I personally would be surprised. But I however it's come about, I find the scheduling of that match not betwe m not before three thirty tomorrow when

you know, s sorry to be a broken record, it's gonna be hot again. Uh I find that interesting and potentially decisive. I don't quite know decisive which way. I just feel like the conditions will be a character in that match, a main character in that match, you know?

D

Yes, I can definitely picture Novad Djokovic in particular looking very hot and bothered and maybe quite stressed out and all of that kind of thing. It's a I think it's a different case to Yannick Sinner. Like I'm not gonna be Sort of thinking about an invisible finish line and wondering whether his whole body is gonna stop being able to function like we saw with Cinner today.

C

Dokovic has learned how to manage these situations. He might look hot and bothered and uncomfortable, but he can get through.

B

I agree, but it is about canister isn't it? He's thinking Alcaraz and Sinner are gone. This is this is it. Let's face it, that's what Djokovic is thinking. He's thinking every extra minute that I s spend out there in this heat. Is a minute gone from my tournament long finite canister. I I think that's how he views it.

D

By far and away the toughest little section of the whole draw, I think,'cause even if he gets past Fonsecco, he's then got the winner of Rude Paul. And yeah, most people would probably expect that to be Casparude. for Djokovic and Rude to be meeting in the fourth round of this French Open with with the names left would be incredibly early. So there is there is a premium on trying to get things done quickly, I think, and

That could make him extra dangerous. You know, like we have seen him could go the other way.

B

Deadline jock of it.

D

Exactly. And he and he could be out to you know, hurt von Secret early and get on top of him and make a point and that that Djokovic is very, very dangerous. It w it was it was curious to me that apparently the request had come because he found the late finish that he had after M Peshi Pericar hard and he said he found getting to sleep really difficult and he and he didn't want it to sort of mess up his schedule that sense so he would prefer

B

Wouldn't last an hour in the in the podcast game, would he?

D

Ha ha. Not for everyone.

Final Thoughts and Listener Shout-outs

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Mae'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n yw'n. What chance do you give Fonseca?

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Twenty percent.

D

Yeah, sounds about right. Okay. You love a percentage chance.

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Do. concrete, finite, f quantifiable things.

C

I can just imagine Djokovic getting him off balance a lot.

B

And question mark over he how he pulls up a after five sets. in the heat yesterday. Longland tomorrow opens with Borzesh against Rublev. Tykman, your shooting star, David, against Karolina Mukova. Then it's Svitolina against Tamara Gorpach. Can't say her name without laughing. Kasper Rood against Tommy Paul is last on Longland tomorrow. Mathieu opens with Kostryk against Golubich. Then it's Mikkelsen-Hoda.

Uh Alex de Minor against the remains of Jakob Mensic Menschik go with God, Jakob uh and Peyton Stearns against Belinda Benchic lost on Mathieu. These are third round matches of course Turrante against Gerenia Buster on fourteen, Wong Starab Dobt Saver on court seven, you got Sarana Kasteya in action on fourteen, uh Karen Hashinov against Yespa de Yong. He got in as a lucky loser, didn't he? Yespa de Yong capitalised On that beats Dan Barinka, won his second round, here he is.

What a tournament this is turning out to be, folks. It is a truly wild ride. With us for all of it is Bashir, our wonderful French open mascot. Thank you, Bashir. Bashir is Mae'n rhaid i wedi gwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud ymwneud hyn. Hello to our mascots, Bodie, Maisie and Roger. Hello to our top folks and executive producers Greg, Chris and Jeff. Matt, let's have some shout-out.

D

We have Bob Murphy.

C

Right, Bob.

D

Who is from Western Sydney, Australia?

C

Countryman the late great Bob Bret.

B

No very good. I'm reluctant to say Bob Bryan because Bryan from last night explicitly stated that he didn't want the Bryan brothers to be mentioned.

D

Hm, that might have been a'cause it was a surname thing, might have been a spelling thing.

B

Yeah, well there we go, I've said the Bryan brothers. It's out there now.

D

This Bob, our Bob, is a chef.

C

Well

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Like Yannix and his parents.

D

Yeah.

C

Got any good recipes, Bob?

D

That is literally always written. I'm a chef.

C

Mm.

B

Love that, Bob the Chef. Excellent. Thank you, Bob.

D

We also have Paul Bullock.

B

Hi, Paul. Yeah.

D

From Kent.

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My neck of the wood.

D

And Paul says I was in the center court crowd for Murray Nalbandian two thousand and five. The loudest crowd experience I can remember. Being part of easy to say in hindsight, but everyone could feel Andy Murray was gonna be one of the best in British tennis history. The sense of hope and excitement was palpable.

C

And Paul, like Paul Hahaas, the Dutch tennis player of the past who I saw the other day and had a nice handshake with and a nice hello, how you doing, la la la and I just about stopped myself talking to him about the The rally against Jimmy Connors in the nineteen ninety one US Open that is so famous of him throwing up five lobsconnors and Haus trying to smash them away and then eventually getting pounded

and the crowd going wild and I watched that on loop about seven times because uh social media kept suggesting it to me. Uh but I didn't bring that up to Paul Harhouse who's the namesake of our Paul House.

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Rydyn ni'n mynd i'w llawer i'w llawer i'w llawer i'w llawer i'w llawer i'w llawer i'w llawer. Give me all the tea on Yesper de Yong Talon Greek sport.

B

Absolutely.

D

I mean I'm sure he wouldn't, but

B

He's a bit of a talker. Yeah. Thank you, Mike.

C

Get him chatting.

D

Hm. Okay, well if if we bump into him again, David

C

It's fine. All we gotta do is tell him we won't say it on the podcast. Yeah.

D

Exactly.

C

I mean, you know, a mile out the old bit of slope.

B

Thank you, Paul.

D

And finally we have Laura Slattery from Dublin.

B

Hello Laura. Hi Laura.

D

Laura has been a listener since twenty sixteen and is going to Queens for the first time ever this year. Women's course of final day.

B

See Serena Williams.

C

I guess lots of chats about Serena Williams coming back

B

Rumours that she's asked for a wild card to play doubles with Victorian Boko at Queens.

C

Wow. Um quarterfinals day is a good day of players. The Queens.

B

Very good.

C

Every match on centre court.

B

Uh the mention of uh Dublin has reminded me that we just uh met a couple of listeners who came over to say hello to us, mother and daughter, who had flown in from Ireland this morning and had been overwatching Anastasia Pottopova against Katie Bolter, and they reported that Pottopova's dog caused a hindrance.

E

Ha ha.

D

On the road.

B

Hindrance is on the rise.

C

Catherine's kinda hindrance.

B

Exactly. More of that kind of hindrance, please. Uh Laura like Laura Robson and Laura Siegmund. Laura Pigossi?

D

Oh very good.

B

Laura. Bob and Paul, thank you ever so much for being friends of the tennis podcast. If you would like to become a friend of the tennis podcast, get access to all of our bonus content and there will be a Roland Garros review show a couple of days after this tournament. I already feel like we're gonna have

quite a lot to uh to process. Uh you get access to that. All of our bonus episodes, we make a lot of them throughout the year. You get monthly live QA shows. You also get access to the barge when you're a friend of the tennis podcast. And that is where the chat is happening. It's our non-toxic social space to talk about tennis with like minded people and

It was a rockin' today, folks. People were having takes about Yannick Sinner. So the link is in our show notes if you would like to become a friend of the tennis podcast. You also get ad free listening. All sorts of other fun things as well. That is the sound of people streaming away from Court fourteen, maybe.

D

Where my Matteo Arnaldi has just taken a two sets to one lead on Stefanos.

B

It is a wild tournament, folks. Hang on for dear life. Thank you for listening. We are part of the Athletic Podcast Network, and we will be back tomorrow.

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