¶ Ted Lasso & Impact of Wayne Show
Welcome to our Ted Lasso talk , the Tedcast . Welcome all Greyhound fans , welcome all you sinners from the dog track and all the AFC Richmond fans around the world . It's the lasso way around these parts with Coach , coach and Boss , without further ado , coach Castleton .
Okay , welcome back everyone . Today we are discussing Wayne , chapter 4 , find Something Black to Wear . I'm your host , coach Castleton . With me is always Coach Bishop , I'm not . Is that good ? Was that good ? No , it's good , all right , good , I'm going to do that . And Boss , what is it ?
I'm so sorry . I accidentally checked a text right before we started this and one of my five sent me the school picture for her younger daughter , who is three , the three-year-old number one , not the most phetogenic age Like just , she's adorable and wonderful and amazing , the picture is bad .
The picture is bad .
And also the picture is . So my friend's mother gave her a bunch of clothes from when my friend was young , like here's a dress that you wore when you were your daughter's age and her daughter fell in love with it . She's like I'm wearing that for picture day . That's it . That's what I'm doing , and it is a navy blue sailor dress from the early 80s .
That's very nice .
It is this is one of those pictures that like when you get older . It's going to be so adorable and cute to show to future partners or friends or whatever , but right now it's the worst picture I've ever seen . Such a bad school day photo oh man , wow .
Man , I really like this , so yeah , so that was the start of my recording .
I love it . I love it , I love it . Thanks , boss . Yeah , no , we are . We're going to jump right in . I'm going to actually be . I don't want to do a big monologue today . I want to throw it right to Coach Bishop , because we were about to right before we were recorded . Coach , what were you talking about ? About Wayne .
I would never . I would have never watched this show like , not aggressively like , but I just never would have . And I absolutely love it . And I love Wayne , I love Dell . I love Wayne and Dell .
There are other characters that I find hilarious , but I like , I adore them , like I legit care , I want them to be great , I want them , like I just they are so sweet both of them . Yeah , I really am enjoying this way more than I ever would have imagined .
Like if I just saw a trailer for this , I can't imagine that I would have been like oh yeah , I'm definitely going to just eat that with a spoon , but nah , this is great . This is a really really good show .
I obviously am thrilled to hear that . I yeah , there are elements of it that it's funny because you want , when you like a show and when it's important to you , you want other people to watch it and appreciate it and hopefully get something out of it , and this is the first time .
So we were all in agreement about Ted Lasso before we came into it and so that was easy because I knew we were all fully on board .
This one has a little bit of a different dynamic and I know , even amongst our listening community , some people , like I said , some people watched the first episode of Wayne and then and then you know , 30 minute episodes , so you can do the whole thing in very , very it's 10 episodes .
And I got , I got emails the following day like I'm done , like I watched the whole , like I could not stop , and then we also get feedback like this is not a show for me and so which is which is fine , which I totally get , but I appreciate it's funny .
Even the people that it's not necessarily their , their jam , they can appreciate the themes involved and the overlap that we see with Ted Lasso and some of some of the you know some of the dynamics that make this show compelling , whether or not , like the show in Toto , is something that they would necessarily gravitate to .
We opened this week with a scene that's a little bit disorienting , because , boss , where are they ? Wayne and and and Della are are where .
They are the picture of domestic bliss and what appears to be like a new modeled house . She is reading the newspaper and grabs her cup of coffee . He comes downstairs and says I don't think I've ever been this clean in my entire life .
The shower wash smells like mango and they're just , you know , enjoying the shit out of wherever it is that they've managed to end up .
Yeah , they've somehow decided to squat inside a home for sale , right ? Is that what we've come to figure this out ? There's this this is beat where Dell is reading the paper and I was like , oh , this is so interesting because Dell is sort of being raised 20 years ago anyway . Right Like her whole life is VHS is right , right .
Cassette tapes right , so is it that strange that she drops on someone like a perfectly good Zena , right , right , a perfectly good Zena . And then in walks , who coach ?
So she says , you know , here comes Jeff . So they do a really good job , by the way , making you continually ask questions through all this Like , but where are they ? Like they're having this whole other conversation about the newspaper , what's it ? But where are you ? Like , what is this ? And then here comes Jeff .
So they scramble and we find out that Jeff is this real estate agent and either a white or very light gray blazer with kind of slick hair , like he's everything you would imagine if you just said , like , get us a swarmy real estate agent .
And you said , OK , think of the entire spectrum of potential real estate agents and give us the cheesiest way , that's right , right . Like the most God awful hit . His lines are are like just just , this guy does a great job playing Jeff , but he says he walks them through .
He says your new life begins here with original hardwood floors , recessed lighting and , for the end of the day , when we come together and remember why we do it all , the fireplace . The fireplace is like also behind the stairs . Do you see where this fireplace is located , boss ? I'm like what is this ?
This is I'm super dating myself right now and MTV Cribs first came out before . I want to say Old Dirty Bastard just ruined the entire concept of it by showing his two bedroom apartment it's like not in the back .
Yes , like just fucking demolished the entire concept of it in the most brilliantly wonderful way , kind of like Cribs when they would walk into the bedroom and be like and here is where the magic happens . And every single fucking one of them said it . This is the fireplace version of that Like it's around a weird corner .
It doesn't appear that you could actually sit in front of the fireplace and enjoy it . It's supposed to be there so that you could say and here's the fireplace .
It's also like an electric fireplace Not attached to anything .
A light comes on , like it's not even like fake flame , like a light just illuminates this fake wood , I guess .
What Like this is the equivalent of like putting a TV into a not working fireplace and then turning on . Youtube Christmas Yule Log thing and just letting it go for hours , like that's not why you have a fireplace .
No , no , it's like yeah , like the home appraisal goes up if you have a fireplace , so they put an electric one behind the stairway . For the end of the day , when we all come together and remember why we do it all , he beeps on the remote and says the fireplace indulge .
So what I love about that is it does have all the like implied sex of the . This is where the magic happens , and the couple looks at him like they are just this side of vomiting and it's great , like no reaction .
Yeah , like what ?
Yeah , that's . The thing is that they're not impressed , oh no , but also they're not like disinterested , almost Like they just cannot care about this . This is not . He doesn't know what he's doing .
Right , like whatever move , whatever result you hope for with the remote control fireplace and the word indulge . Yeah , this is not it . This is exactly not it , decidedly uninterested , unamused . And then he pivots . I'll invite you outside to our nature , and our lives intertwine in this spacious outdoor patio , perfect for dining alfresco .
It's all so rehearsed and awful .
It is yeah , so he walks outside . I'd like that there's another alfresco reference here .
¶ Dining Naked and Laundry Lullaby
At this point . Wayne and Dell think it's dining naked , so they give each other a look and they scramble off to get their stuff and pack up quickly while Jeff is outside , in case they come upstairs which I'm sure they will in the tour of the house and they realize , uh-oh , what's going to happen here , boss .
That it driers about to sing them their little laundry lullaby .
Yeah , which they admitted . Hey , I like actually the . I didn't think I'd like it , but I like it Is there . Is there more ? I mean , coach , talk about one of the trappings of like middle class living . You know more than the sing-songy tone . You know the digital tone of your completed wash cycle .
That's not something either one of these guys have ever experienced ?
Not at all . And not only that , but what I enjoyed about this sequence and it continues through this episode and I'll try to like note more of them is how quick the setups and payoffs are , without making me feel like I'm watching somebody do setups and payoffs . So it's what's ? Alfresco ?
I don't know , maybe it's dining , you know , maybe it's eating naked Well , none of these people are naked . And then in comes Jeff and he says alfresco . And then you know , oh , the , the wash or dry . Yeah , I kind of like it . It's like it finished my clothes , my warm , and now you're going to sing me a lullaby .
And then the next thing we know like , oh shit , like when , because when she says the dryer , we know what that means . But when the original line was done , I didn't feel like I was being like notified of that . It felt very natural in its place . So I just feel like they , they do an excellent job throughout .
And even when the song actually goes off , we go back to Dell . She's standing at the window and there's a plant there , which , sure , okay , there's a plant by the window , no big deal .
But not long thereafter we learn why we needed to see that plant because somehow , mysteriously , that plant distracts Jeff , who might have followed the dryer sound to go outside , where a plant has fallen on the hood of his precious car . So like it's just . Like his Mercedes , no less .
So like it's just yeah , all this , you know like every little thing gets used and they're so resourceful . So as he's out front , you know crying over his Mercedes , they sneak out the back . Jeff knows nothing . As far as he knows , it was an empty house , so it's great .
Yeah , yeah , it's all very tight . It all makes sense . I'll point out that there's a trope in . They do this great in Galaxy Quest , but where you show five seconds left on any timer and your heroes always stop it with one second left . That's the entire concept of the timer , but they don't make it on this one .
It actually hits double zero and the chime sound goes off , which necessitates Dell dropping the plant on the Mercedes . And then we cut to chapter four , then we cut to the Wayne title sequence and we get chapter four . Find something black to wear .
I'm just going to quickly point out that also , the Mercedes , being a Mercedes , necessitated dropping a plant on it , because I don't care for that , because you're not being that expensive .
I don't think . Well , that's . I got to correct you right there . Because see , what you don't realize is , once you have a Mercedes , you're more important , and when you're more important you get to cut people off . You get like a it's sort of a preferential treatment on the road . You can like when everyone else has lined up for an exit .
When you have a Mercedes or BMW , you don't have to . I don't know if , if you know these rules , boss , but you just can cut right up to the front , where you belong in the natural pecking order . I've never . No , sorry guy guy , guy , Social Darwinism boss .
Social Darwinism . Social Darwinism .
Wow , I'm . I'm ignoring that You're being mean to me . Now I'm , I'm refusing to do that . Social Darwinism , that is good Social Darwinism .
That is good . Social Darwinism is pretty damn good , and I don't like wordplay . That's a pretty good one .
The rules that I follow are that when you have a passenger in your car , it is their responsibility to roll down their windows so that you could properly stream at the person who was just doing something bad about how they need to get out of the fucking road immediately . That's my only car rule . If you don't do that , you don't get to be in my car .
All right , Fair enough as long as the rules listen , as long as we all understand the rules .
The rules . They have to like sort of take part . They become like an ancillary driving component and they join you in your road rage , tire aids and things like that . Is it plus minus , though ? Because when I'm , I'm very rarely the passenger because I'm a control freak . So most of them . If we're going to die , it's going to be me doing it .
So , yeah , so , but when I am sometimes in the passenger seat and then , like , someone lets us in , I'm a big waiver , a big , big way . All you need is a wave . Waves can be . You can cut someone off , someone can cut you off . You know they can almost cause an accident .
And if they go oh shit , sorry about that and give me a wave , I'm like no zero problem with what you did . I really appreciate you waving and just taking , because it's ownership , it's accountability . This is what we're talking about with Ted Lasso . Yeah , it's accountability . So I'm going to wave and go .
Yeah , my bad , sorry , I'm not like having had my coffee . Yeah , but then you expect your , your passenger , also to be an extension of the wave sort of dynamic in the front seat .
Oh no , they don't have to be involved in the screaming . It's that , for whatever reason , the window control that I have on my door doesn't work . On the passenger side window it's broke , it's just an electrical issue that I never got fixed .
So I literally just need them to roll down the window on their side , because if I lean over to do it myself I drive less good . So I just want them to do that for me . They don't have to say anything , I just . It helps if the window is down .
We're so off the love meter , like I feel like it's like , you know , like when a dial like have you ever driven a car like an old car that the odometer is go that or the speedometer doesn't go that high , it goes like 80 , whatever 90 .
And it's like if you go past there , like you're just like in some magical land that could theoretically spin back to zero . I feel like that's where I am on my love meter , because the fact that you can't stand Mercedes and that you were like well , part of the issue is not just your involvement , but that this control no longer controls that window .
But you know what ? Fuck it , I've got you . What do I need to fix the electrical ? For it's great , it's just so great .
That's probably a fuse boss . That's probably a 25 cent fix , by the way .
I mean he's like , but I've got you , why do I need the fuse ? Yeah ? I've got you in the passenger seat .
Yeah . It's fantastic , and a lot of the time when I'm screaming like that it's actually on the highway and you wouldn't want the windows down for that anyway . Too windy , too loud .
The whole . I can't , I can't avoid that . My favorite part of all of these things is when you have a driver in one car and a driver in another car , but then you have a passenger in car one the first and then you're yelling past the person becomes like yeah , the person's like collateral damage , and so I'll play that up like with my kids .
Like my son is in the front of sea , I'm like I'll pull up and I'm like , what are you doing ? Like , why are you kind of like , do you want this guy to hurt you ? And my son is like , oh , my God , Like it's great .
You really pissed him off .
Yeah , you want this 13 year old boy to take his anyway , so I like the catching of the people in awkward circumstances . That's funny .
So I do think like it's funny because I will confess , I like nice cars and but I also get why people hate the people in those cars . And I was amazed to find out that , like they have actually studied it and no bullshit , which you said about the social . That's what I think that's part of why I found it so funny .
Social carbon is is that it's true , like more likely to run through stop signs , more likely to be in some fucking bike lane , more likely to cut people . I'm like are you fucking kidding me ? And it's actually true . So I have to sort of take my lumps . Like I've had , you know , a couple of those types of cars that we haven't been Mercedes or whatever .
But I've had a couple cars that are like the car you would put in your script to say that's a , that's a nice car , and I do recognize that . You know , part of me has to take my lumps when people say , yeah , those people are assholes . I kind of have to go .
Well , you know , in fairness , I try not to cut people off , but I can't pretend there's not a very real thing .
I mean a tiny bit of that feels like people who actually do really like cars or enjoy the engineering behind it or whatever else goes along with it . It's kind of like being a fan of Dave Matthews in the early 2000s . Some of us were there because we really appreciated the music and actually we're fans of Dave as real fans refer to ourselves . We liked it .
And some people were there because they were Fred boys named Devon and this is where you were getting stoned this weekend , so that's why they were there . Like it depends on the motivation .
Yeah , yeah yeah , the distinction I got you . I got you Because yeah , for me it's . I just like to be comfy as hell in my right , like that's really as much as it is . I just want to feel nice driving around . But no , I get what you're saying , yep .
That's why I have those smooth bucket seats of a Nissan Versa . Really , I'm there for the luxury too .
I , yeah , no , I drive . We've said it before I drive . My favorite car is any car . Any car that I don't have to make a monthly payment on is my favorite car . I don't know why monthly payments drive me so crazy , but I'm like , I feel like maybe it's the control freak thing , maybe it's the OCD thing , I don't know .
Maybe it's like like anticipatory dread . I don't really know where I'm like . No , it feels like a tether , like something , but banks got me on a chain or something . I'm like I don't , you know what I mean . I don't know what it is , but I don't like it . And so I drive a very paid off 2005 Volvo S60 .
And that's just one of the beaters that we have , and I grabbed that one . And then Boss drives a 2011 Nissan . It's a Versa Right Blue .
A powdered blue Nissan Versa hatchback . Thank you .
Yep , hatchback and coach you drive a . Yes , was that a Tesla Model X ? Was that what you ?
Yeah , okay .
It was .
Yeah , I really like it . Yeah , although . I got to get out of the Tesla family for obvious reasons , like when I decided to do that , we hadn't gotten a full look at the head of that company , so I'll be getting out of there . But I do , I really do like that car , but sorry .
If you don't mind bumper stickers , there is one of those made for you . It says I bought the car before we knew what he was like . Is that true ? And it's very , it's very specifically about Elon .
Yes , oh , no shit , that's a real thing . I will find . I'm not a bumper sticker person , so I'm going to have to figure out how I'm going to navigate this , but I love that and it is exactly how we feel Like we've discussed this . Yeah , we , like Daphne and I , have discussed like we feel like we're now somehow like proponents of his behavior .
We're like no , no , no , we just we're just buying a car .
We like . How do you like your happen that blue check mark there ? Coach ?
I will say that my trick in life , though that I have also added into this is I buy them , as they say , to make you feel a little better about it , pre-owned . So I choose the pre-owned version of the luxury car , but I'm getting it . You know what I'm saying . Like I'm not buying it , no , that's I think it was the worst investment .
Yeah , somebody else already took that , but anyway , no one cares .
I don't even know what I'm talking about no , no , no , no .
I'm curious because you say you're not a bumper sticker person , but you seem like I could see you very much being a bumper sticker , because you sort of wear your , your beliefs on your sleep Like you're not shy about right . This is what I believe in . You know what I mean . You really commit to it .
But I'm wondering if the same thing that I remember one time oh God , we were just 20 years ago and I just met you and you got a tiny scuff on some white . That's exactly right and it ruined your . You're going exactly the right way , you're going exactly . Is that the right ? Is that what it is ?
Exactly you drilled it . Like I'm like , what the fuck ? Like ? Yeah , no , that's exactly To this day . It's what's so funny is I just looked down at some sneakers yesterday and I was like , oh wow , these got to go to the , these go to the work shoe pile man . He's like I didn't even notice . This is ridiculous .
Yeah , like yesterday I had this experience and to me that would be my best person . Yeah , like I promise you , almost no one else I know would even . And I was like , oh my God , have I been walking around this way ? Yeah , it's completely ridiculous . Yeah , it's super ridiculous . Like , I recognize it as ridiculous , but it really is how I feel .
I just need to mention that . One time at the end of the work day I reached out to the shop to put my hair up and felt something weird on my neck and realized that I had had I think maybe it was yogurt for breakfast . I think I had dried yogurt on my neck all day long . So that's a difference between you and me .
That's how I got written .
That is so funny , I love it .
That's like . Again , that is the kind of thing we would put in about a character right , Like you'd be , like Emily , you could use that .
That's mine , that is .
That's how you'd intro the character Emily and you'd say the age and you'd say she's out of death , doesn't realize she's got a fucking bobble yogurt on her neck . Yeah , I was still on her shirt , yeah , fantastic . And then we'd say a coworker , orlando , approaches , is you could eat caviar off of his sneakers , but he'd fight you for doing it .
So we have a all right , so we open it . We open with . You know the scene with these guys squatting in a house . And then we cut bam right to officer Jay Gennetti and he is recording on Instagram Coach , what does he say ?
So he's Jay Gennetti , aka coppa soup , and I'm heading coppa , coppa , soup Like coppa soup Like , instead of coppa soup . Yeah , yeah yeah . Like his handle is cop , yeah , coppa soup . And you just know , like he has no concept of what he should or should not be saying on social media .
But you just know , like right , I promise you , this account is a nightmare and I'm heading down south , so get ready for soup picks from 11 different states . So apparently that's the hook for his yeah , these are the soup picks from 11 . These are the soups I've been eating .
And then so he answers the door and turns the camera around or turns his phone around , and there's a sergeant Geller and he is standing there in his tucked in I'm pretty sure , yep , tucked in Tommy Bahama shirt , and so he follows in . And you just know this trip is going to be hijinks and chaos and all the good things .
Well , you want to say hi and he goes hard , pass like hard hard hard , but I got 1300 people watching .
You want to say like you're like , wait , what is happening ? So he's got 15 people watching his live stream of him saying I'm of coppa soup , like what is what . And so , yes , in the hard pass we go inside . Okay , we got to go , so chowder , which apparently is his sign off , because got to stick to the theme Dear .
God , yeah , soup pun Chowder .
Yeah , soup pun . Uh huh , we're not wearing uniforms . No , no uniforms today , which I was like . Is that news to him ? Like we're going to drive to Florida ? He thought this was like official police business , what so anyway , yeah , yeah , it's you , me and my friend Tommy Bahama .
This made me laugh and these can be a big miss , but for me this work , oh yeah .
But yeah , yeah , this could easily not work .
This could be horrible , me and my friend , tommy Bahama , to which he respond I thought it was just us . No , tommy Bahama is the name of the man who makes the shirt , these shirts . So I thought the joke was over . I thought , oh , that's cute . Which he then responds I know , but why is he coming with us ? Is he rich ?
Like , how do you people find your way home every day ?
What is happening ? This is a cop , this is the officer of the law . What ? Back in Brockton , massachusetts , lovely Brockton , I know . And then , and then , geller starts to . He starts to . He's like Jay , I was making it .
Like he , just , he , just he , just . There's no point .
No , look , I , I . I think I was pretty clear about this trip . You realize , all of this is off the clock and Jay says what coach ?
I know , but it's not like we're going to Disney World unless , unless we go into Disney World , we go into Disney World Sarge Um well , we're going to be traveling out of our jurisdiction , so it'd be inappropriate to be in uniform . You got any street clothes ? No , I just got work clothes and I got comfies . What ?
I got work clothes and I got comfies . You got what ?
Comfies .
So he's got , he's got . Is that a culturally no ? I've never heard that .
Okay , in my life I was like really he calls his comfies .
Really I've never heard that in my life , wait but like that , that level of clothes , number one , they can be called cozies or they could be called lounge pants , but like , obviously there is a breed of clothing that is not pajamas .
Yeah , yeah , yeah , but you do like you sit in them , you just like hang out and those , yeah , those are called cozies or lounge pants Really .
I knew lounge lounge , lounge , lounge pants . I've heard before , I've heard that .
Lounge pants ? I guess not lounge pants .
But yeah , I'm a big , just sweats around the house person , as I'm also a sweats in the street person , as I'm a sleeping your sweats person , as I'm a go ahead and bury me in this shit person . So I don't really have a lot of distinctions . But yeah , no , I got comfies Interesting .
Geller sees a bunch of bags and he goes what is all this stuff ? And what does Jay say , coach ?
This is my stuff for my vlogs and my blogs . Okay , light selfie sticks . Couple of extra cameras Wow , here , take this one . So then we're outside . Sorry , when was the last time you took a vacation ? And what is it with this , wayne kid ?
Right , what is it with this Wayne kid ? I just got a gut feeling about him and Jay says what .
Just let a badge and Florida handle it .
Right , right . And this is like this is so interesting because he goes that's what I'm afraid of . A boy like that gets put in the system . They rarely get out . I figured I got a second chance , jay , it's my turn to give somebody else one .
And it sounds like a bad C to me .
Right , something about CWJ's already made his decision . Something about CWJ ? Well , we'll see . I just want to catch up with him before everything else does . And Jay says what ? And her , the girl , right Her too . They couldn't have gotten that far on a dirt bike , we'll find . And her Right Her too , which is great .
I mean this is really they're accomplishing a lot , like as much as this feels very who's on first and he's an idiot and his cameras and his blog and blog . Like they're accomplishing a lot about where everyone's head is and what the real motivations are and as much as why he's now so committed to second chances .
There's a little bit of a mind blur with the whole cancer thing , like okay , right , right , but it's kind of like he is committed to it . Like to the character , like we on the outside maybe , like really , that's how you got there , but to the character this is a straight line I got a second chance and I want to .
I want this kid to have a second chance and he really needs and he's committed to it .
And he he's not wrong that that kid goes , gets picked up by a bad all the all the guy will . That guy won't care . No one's going to care Girl . Whoever you know , whatever officer picks him up , is not going to . They're going to see his , his , his rap sheet and they're going to go . Okay , like this . Kid's a bad seed .
Same thing that you did , yeah , and somehow Gellar's got a gut reaction . You got any of our guys on this . Jay says no , sir , we're leaving Brockton out of this , and then we get a slamming hatchback of a Nissan Versa . What you and killer mean going to have the same hair color and same . Well , for this week we'll see what I do next week yeah Can .
I tell you .
I don't know that I've shared this with you before but pretty much any white woman in the world could hide directly in front of me if they changed their hair color . I don't know what that's about . It's like I like that shit knows me for a fucking loop . I don't understand what that's about and I feel silly .
I feel silly because I'm like , but there have been people who I've like started to introduce myself and been like oh my God , I totally know you . But yeah , the haircut like I don't know what the fuck that's about . But if you go Blonde , Brunette , right , you switch up on me Like I need a warning . I need a moment to like gather .
But only only white women , though that's the thing . Like I'm serious , actually it's very like . I think it's weird , like I'm like what is going on in your brain ? But , for summary , maybe it's how I categorize , I don't know , but I'm telling you , there have been people who Brunette , then Blonde , and to me is like a different human being .
I'm super into that .
I feel like white women are obviously not a monolith , because there are a lot of bitches out there I wouldn't include in my group , but I do like that . This seems to be the one superpower we could all agree on . It doesn't matter . I don't know if we're going to use it for good , but I just like that .
There is this ethically neutral sort of thing that we could do if we felt like it .
That's the thing , like no one's getting hurt , there's nothing like this . No , whatever about it , it's just . But yeah , it totally throws me off . So there you go .
I think that's really funny I wonder what that ? You know ? The generic sort of you know cliche joke about this dynamic . Is white people not being able to tell black people apart , or Asian ? People not being able to tell white people apart .
But like , whatever you do it , you go oh , it's just basically , if you were raised in a certain culture you're not like as gifted at . You know , I'm not saying for everybody , I actually don't have that whatever , but I understand when people say it like oh yeah , I mean , it makes sense .
Yeah , if you haven't seen , it's like the whole thing . I don't even know that this is true . But the thing that people say about you know , eskimos have however many words for snowflake it's like yeah , well , if it's always goddamn snowing , just saying it's snowing has no meaning .
But if you live in LA , yeah , that little dust thing is the same as a , as a blizzard , like it's all just snow .
Oh , oh if it gets below 70, . I have heard people bundling up .
Oh yeah , oh Jesus , it's 60 .
Oh yeah , oh no , find me , my winter hat .
Seriously , though , yeah , no , it's completely ridiculous , and the longer I've been out here , the worse I've gotten . I'm not quite there , but it's read If it hits 50 out here , like you hear the like semi panic in people's voices , like it's . It's totally ridiculous .
Yeah , yeah , I was only going to say that when I was out visiting you last year , it was September , october , octoberish , and I brought like T-shirts and jeans and dresses and hung up and the people in LA , they , they . In the few times that I was walking around I could see their concern . They're like wait , do you know that it's the end of October ?
It's , it's only 66 degrees .
What are you doing Really ? Like seriously ? I'm sure they were deeply concerned Like are you okay ? Yeah , no , it's completely outrageous .
I want to . I want to point out that we , in an effort to grow and expand , we will use the term Inuit rather than Ah you know what ?
Yes , thank you , sorry , so . So I sincerely I apologize . That's , yeah , that's me .
All right . So , boss , now we cut to Fayetteville , north Carolina , and we got a scene where Dylan and waiter , walking down the street of the neighborhood that they're squatting in , they're pushing their bike and walk us through . There there's talking which which of these houses would you want ? The one with the big fucking tree ? Or the all the flowers ?
I can't afford gas , never mind a house , I know . But for fun , if you could , I'll take any of them . He's just like what I , you know . Can you imagine like having any of these , you know ?
Well , but I also thought that that was a little touch of um refusing the yes and of the improv , that's when you say no but or whatever , like she's . She's just trying to play pretend and he is refusing to engage . There's a little bit where she's like will you fucking just tell me which one you like the best ? Yeah , whatever , that's fine .
That is true , yeah , yeah , yeah Right , we have a joke in our . We have a joke in our , in our family , because uh , um , juliana's dad is an engineer and , uh , he will sometimes drive me crazy with that exact thing , like we'll play a game at dinner or something . I remember saying like Greg , do you like ketchup ? That was the question .
He was like I don't like ketchup and he's like , compared to what I'm like , just just , do you like ketchup , man , yes or no ?
How hard to like , like , like it just doesn't know , just can't roll with the sweetest man in the world , but like , so funny , it's like , it's like a funny thing in our family , I think we're touching , though , on one of the elements of the Del Wayne relationship .
I'm going to give a little thought to it , but , as you pointed it out , boss , I thought I feel like we've had them do this before , where she sort of been in . Oh well , certainly when we see our friends on their spring break tour , right , um , but the willingness to go like huh , what if this were alive ?
And him going , nope , but it's not , though , right .
Although he does seem to be trying on the living in Jeff's house fairly well .
That's right that he is . Yes . But maybe that's just because who could ?
say no to that drier thing . They're giving you warm clothes and singing you a lullaby .
I love .
I love how homie they are with it too .
Like that's super like yeah , and they open and say I've never been cleaner . I've literally Wayne's like my whole life . I've never been this clean in my entire life , not even when I was born and , and and and Del says oh have you seen a baby . They're a mess when they're born . You know you're definitely cleaner now .
Um , then they , they're walking and sort of talking about their situation . This is just a setup . So one of those things you do as a writer is you have to set up what's the dynamic and if you're going to have two people in a room , at least don't have them sitting , you know . So they have them walking . There's a lot of depth to the shot .
You know it's a really good cinema , a cinema , a graphically uh , good shot . Um , because you have depth and you have , uh , the move . There's some movement and they're they're basically saying can't believe . You know , it's a funny line . I can't believe that hooker lady robbed us , which is yep Tough to believe .
Um , we need to get money , maybe we get jobs or something . Oh yeah , good idea . Uh , wayne again has no sarcasm to him because that's not how he was right . His dad was a straight shooter . You say what you mean . You mean what you say , whereas Dell is from a shithead family where everything's got an edge to it , which is very new England , by the way .
Like , that is like . I really understand that . Um , he says maybe we get jobs or something . She's like , oh yeah , good idea , you go get your soup press for your interviews and I'll go grab my college diploma real quick , Jesus Christ Right .
And then , um , uh , one thing I'll say you know it's 15 and 16 year old kids and you go , I'd like that they're not , I don't know , they're a product of their environment so much , and they're not they're they're uh , what's that ? they're unexperienced but they're not dumb . It's like they're looking for answers .
They even know a lot of people don't even know to look . You know what I mean , and they're like looking for answers , which I really like . Yes , boss .
I sort of know what you mean , and I hate using the word uncultured , because that means a very specific thing about , like being boorish , and what do you mean ? You don't read Shakespeare and some bullshit .
What I mean , though , is that , uh , there are just things sort of outside of their grasp due to socioeconomic and geographical issues , like yeah , and they haven't been a culture , yeah . Like this is , I'm sure , going to sound nuts , but one of my five grew up also poor . She was poor , but we don't need to get into that and I texted her .
But not so long ago I was looking at a restaurant . There's a really expensive restaurant in Chicago that I'm not planning to go to , it's a Lenia . Actually , people have gone like I have friends who have gone Not my thing , because it's like legitimately a thousand dollars for a meal .
But I was looking at other restaurants and I was like , oh shit , I don't have the money , but I have the space on credit cards that I could theoretically go to like the most expensive restaurants in the world and I would know how to do that a little bit .
Like I could go find the correct outfit for it and then I could go and show up and I wouldn't make an entire ass of myself .
And so there's something about like maybe sheltered is the word that I'm looking for Like sheltered by the poverty involved , that you're not exposed to some of these larger things , and so for them it's like oh , I fucking know how to drink coffee and read the newspaper and hang out and play adult in this way .
It's just a lot of the other stuff that they don't quite know how it works yet .
I always harp on this Like how do you know if you don't know ? And who's going to teach you ? I remember I was in high school and I told you I went to a very fancy high school , a lot of really wealthy people .
My closest friend was a girl who she was like in like the Hearst family fortune somewhere in there , whatever , and I think like on an ancillary part of it , but still like connected enough that , yeah , whatever . And she was like we're going to meet her mother at the Four Seasons in Boston for brunch and then her mom flight got delayed .
So the moms like no , I already like made a reservation , you and Thorog's go , so all right . So we went and I remember her as we walked in that we are what these are juniors 17 .
Right , I remember her putting a $5 bill in her hand and shaking hands with the mater D and she's like because if I didn't do that , my mother would like have a conniption that I didn't just like , like and I was like what . Like how would you know ?
that you know , you know I mean , like , how would you know ?
I still , like you know , to this day probably would forget to do that . But it's , it's , it's , yeah , it's one of those things . But what is it , boss ? Oh God , god , help me .
Now I just need you to know that the version of that in my life is my youngest brother is much younger than me by 12 years , and so when I started the dating the boyfriend I can't remember what it was , but anyway , one time we ended up taking him out , my younger brother out to dinner at like outback or the Olive Garden or something like not not super
fancy wine is stretched out of the imagination and my youngest brother , having grown up in a family with four siblings and not always that much money , was very conscientious about that . And so he , like sort of casually to me , said hey , so since you guys are paying , how much am I allowed to order ?
And since the boyfriend was treating , I said to him , hey , kind of wants to know how much is he allowed to order ? And the boyfriend looked for a second . He goes like no more than three dinners , like don't order more than three outtrades , and that's the cut off , and he was being entirely serious .
He was like you're a teenage boy , I don't know how much you need to eat , but like , try to keep it under three dinners .
So that's , that's that's so mad at you on behalf of your is out . I'm so like he , like he was like why ? Like whispered you and you're like , hey , tell me , wants to know how much ? Like , oh my God , I would be like , what are you doing ?
That's funny . This is not a thing . No .
I was trying to let him know that it was allowed to just say it's this is not a big thing . This is not a big deal , Like you want to know . Let's find out this . You should not be embarrassed . I am not . I'm not going to let you be embarrassed by the idea that we would let you do something inappropriate .
I think , I think your way is probably better , but I still hate it . I'm still going to hate it going forward , because I'm like , because you're a person , he comes to you with trust , because he's like oh , cuz he wouldn't know the boyfriend at that time Right , that was like no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no .
They already knew each other . That's like they got along .
Oh , oh , oh oh , I thought it was like a first date . No , oh okay , All right , all right , my mistake .
No , no , no , no , no , no , I'm , I'm , I'm , I'm . They'd already played Super Smash Brothers a bunch of times and haul out and like , yeah , no no , okay , nope , I fully rescind my , my , my of course you do .
Tell a better story next time . Okay , so good , god , okay , so they're . So they're trying to figure out how do we do this stuff , how do we get any money ? And they wheel up to we got to go to get to Florida so we can get your car and get the hell out of Florida . We need to get , we need gas to get to Florida . Wayne says here's an idea .
And they look and they see a bunch of day laborers and Wayne doesn't know what . That is the standard . I wait for somebody to pick them up . Best part about being a day laborer , dell says , is it's only a day and you get paid cash . And Wayne is nervous , he looks nervous , he says I ain't never done construction before .
To which what does Dell respond there , boss ?
My brothers do construction and they got half a brain between them .
Anybody can do construction yeah , anyone can do construction Right . And he asks them we go . He says , well , what are you going to do ? Which is really funny . It's like , how am I going to go to do that ?
Like he was like very vulnerable here , Wayne it's being established has a fear of the unknown and he likes what he likes but like sort of now , everything in this life is kind of unknown , he keeps having to break boundaries that , like you know what I mean . He's in uncomfortable positions I am so with .
I tell you that I every time I don't the type of anxiety that I've learned that I have is like the anticipatory anxiety , especially like social anxiety before I know an event , so like , for some reasons , it's always PTA meetings or PTO meetings , depending on what , like it's parent teacher stuff .
And I remember I got burned on one of them where I was like , when I lived in California , the parent teacher stuff was all always great and everyone you know it's California was very , you know , very nice and open and I loved it and it was men and women working together .
When I got to the first move back to Boston , I went to my first one and I was the only man there and then this woman who was running it was like this is an organization of women who do the thing , like whatever , and I was like and I was just like , okay , like , but I sat and I stayed in the meeting .
I stayed for the rest of the meeting and I was like you know what , like , okay , I'm not going to attack women , I'm an ally . But like , on a basic level , I'm willing to be your grunt worker .
Like I'm willing to lift the heavy shit , I'm willing to put up things and I'm like all right , like , if you don't want that , like fine , maybe you got to figure it out , you don't need that . But I was like , oh , that was weird . So after that , anytime I went into a new one , I was like , oh , am I going to have to deal with that dynamic again ?
And I would be a little bit like , and then I would . And then the only way to get through anxiety is you push through . And so I'd push through . And then it's like , okay , once you can , once you can map , okay , this is what happens , this is what the meeting looks like , this is how it starts . Oh , that person over there has status .
These people over here are outsiders . You speak at this time , you don't speak at this time . The relationship between the faculty and the parents in this particular school is X right , sometimes it's adversarial . Sometimes the administration , you know , and the families work together . So you never know .
But once you get into that like anything else , like your first time , first school dance , your first okay , first day of school , third grade , you know , like all these different dynamics where you have to break the ice and Wayne just keeps having to address new situations and what he's looking at for those of our listeners who are not watching the show along with
us is it's just him and Dale pushing a bike right , and then what's the actual visual of what he sees , of what the two of them are looking at ? That ? Well , that Dale is sort of directing him towards boss .
Oh , so it's a big , like big box construction store , sort of like a not quite a home depot but maybe like a fleet if anybody lives in the Midwest , with just a line of dudes like 20 , 30 dudes lined up waiting for somebody to come by and say I need six guys to help me build a deck , it's legitimately intimidating Like nobody .
How many yeah , I get it . How many 15 year olds do you see ?
Oh zero , no , all grown men . And also , it's not like there is a greeter to tell you how this goes .
This is one of those .
Yes , this is yeah , it's one of those situations that's a big deal .
Where one of the things that I do . I don't have the same anxiety , but I like to be prepared . Like before I go to a restaurant , I will study the menu and make sure that I know there are a couple of things that I want to eat .
Or , like if you're going to a museum , I want to know what time I'm supposed to show up and which way I'm supposed to walk around the museum and that kind of shit . And then there is a place called Kingspot which has become my favorite place in the entire world .
But the first time I went it was overwhelming , because they're like they give you a little key for a locker and they're like go down that way and then you go to the locker room and what you're supposed to do is get entirely naked and take a shower before you go out into the saunas . And I didn't understand a lot of this when I showed up there .
So it was a whole thing where I was like okay , I got to go find my locker and then I guess I got to walk around naked and get into a hot tub and then I'm going to put on clothes . I suppose I don't know how this works . I love it now , but the first time it was really overwhelming .
That moment , because it's . Not only am I going to get this wrong , but it's like everyone here is going to know I don't belong here .
Yes , yeah .
Like for me , I'm going to walk into it .
Exactly , yeah , exactly , I'm going to walk into the wrong room . Yeah , I'm going to be totally naked and everybody else is going to have their clothes on and I'm going to do it badly .
Yeah , I'm just going to lock behind me , right , like the whole deal .
The whole thing is going to be bad .
Yeah , I'm like pre-apologetic that's probably not a good thing where I'm like ready to apologize to every person as if I've made every error . You know what I mean .
Like I'm just ready to because I don't want to be and I guess it's probably comes from a good place of not wanting to put people out or make them deal with more than they should naturally have to deal with it or whatever . But yeah , it can be intimidating and this is what Wayne is feeling as he's looking at all these , like older , scruffy men .
He says what are you going to do ? She's like I don't know , maybe I have a hamburger , play some laser tag . And of course , he doesn't get it . She goes dude , I'm joking , don't worry about it . And he's like you're not going to ? No , I'm not going to steal .
All right , I'm not going to goddamn steal , I'm just going to do what my parents do when bills came sell some shit . I got my headphones and this necklace . It's like 14 carats and that's the necklace that has your name on it . It's a Dell , right ?
Yeah .
And Wayne says . Wayne says but your mom gave you that necklace . And boss , what is ? This is a really interesting insight into Dell right here . What did she say to that ? Your mom gave you that necklace .
Yeah , but she also taught me how to survive , which is ironic seeing as how she's dead and no-transcript .
That is . I mean , that young lady has definitely got some hardness that she's needed to develop . Just to articulate that I had a joke that was kind of in this direction where I used to say you know , my father died , I gained 30 pounds , I lost 30 pounds . My mother died , I gained 30 pounds , I lost 30 pounds .
The bad news is I eat my grief , but the good news is I'm out of fucking parents .
Wow , wow , that's dark .
Yes , and to me this joke is like that . It's like for a teenage you know girl to like bam , like she like hits you between the eyes with bad shit . I'm like , wow , okay .
Coach does this , he will do the darkest joke you've ever heard . He's so sweet and cuddly and wonderful and everybody loves him . We were on a text thread the other day . It's just like I was reading my texts with my phone and someone wrote something about politics and coach made a joke that was so dark that I spit my coffee .
I was like like what the hell Can ? I tell you that he's got that . Oh , I don't know . Yeah , you can yeah .
So basically , somebody was talking about , like you know , some of the farthest right Republican folks these days and said you know , they're going to give them a little more . Are they going to give them ? Yeah , they're going to give them a little more rope . And I wrote back as the black guy in this conversation as little rope as those guys have , the better .
Yes , yeah , yeah . Yeah , yeah , and I believe , coach , I believe he spit his coffee and he wrote back holy fuck or something like that .
And I was like I wrote holy fuck in all caps . I was like Jesus Christ , Orlando , oh my God , yeah .
So there's that .
Well , my mom taught me how to survive too , which is that Ryan's saying she's dead and all Okay , guess I'm off to work . Then says Wayne , and she says hold up . And this is a sweet moment . She puts a hat on him and what does she say ? Coach .
So you don't get sun cancer or nothing . I didn't steal it , it was free Like she's like . So don't give me your hard time . Yeah , yeah , that's great .
And it was a . It was a hat from the house with the name of the realtor on it .
I noticed that . Yeah , yeah , yeah yeah .
Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah . Which I'm like . Oh my God , the is first . Yeah , imagine that your first entree into the world of mango is just the scent from some chemical factory along the Jersey turnpike Right , but like it makes you want to try a real mango man . That is .
That is very beautiful , I don't know . It's what , a what , a , what a commentary on the world we live in and the commercialization of everything and you know this sort of post capitalist nightmare and you go inside of it . There's still the ability for some genuine like excitement around what's real , like I just want to try a real mango .
I love her response . You know , if we get to Florida , I'll get your real mango . Like they're on this journey together , like they really I believe that , like I didn't think it was just like okay , yeah , sure , I'll get your mango . You know , go , go work .
Like I fully expect that at some point when we get to Florida which I assume we will there's going to be a mango moment . I fully expect that to happen and I just think that's yeah . Anyway , I love these two .
Now notice , coach , she did not say , and I remember this she said if we get to Florida , yes , she did not say when yeah , she did not say when yeah . Because they're not in a great spot right now . Like they have no money , they're pushing a motorbike , yeah , yeah .
It's not great .
It's not great , Bob , so I'll see you back . She actually moves his , his sweatshirt around . Well , it's clear I would say dirty sweatshirt , but it's clean now and smells great . But she kind of adjusts it , like sending a little kid off to school for the first time . See that , I'll see you back at the house later .
And then , okay , Now , now we get the scene here , boss , where Wayne well , I don't know what he does with his bike , but we should be it shows him walking up and he just everybody looks at him as he just walks up and puts his back against the , the corrugated aluminum wall of wherever the hell , God forsaken big box store .
He is right , and and walk us through this scene here , boss .
As he was walking up . Yeah , he stands next in between a couple of guys . He's obviously standing out . Everybody else is older and not quite as white , I guess . Yeah .
Significantly less weight yeah .
Yeah . So there's a car that goes by and a bunch of guys like stand up from the wall and flag at it . So the next car that comes by he does the same thing , only this car is not looking for day laborers , this car is looking for sex workers .
And so when he walks up and says you got a job for me , then all the guys sort of like in the background at exactly what we would be afraid that we would do in these situations , that we would make the mistake and look dumb and do the wrong thing .
And then everybody would know . Yeah , he actually does do it . Yes , it's exactly right , boss . Yes , good call , he has a blunder and this you , that's the worst thing you can do on this , on this work line right here , and he does it . And the only reason he doesn't go along with the guy is why , coach ?
Well , they all react . But one guy tells him like different kind of job , Don't you know ? Don't get in that car , Green Eato , which is going to go being like , you know , America , basically white boy , but like American or whatever .
Like not one of us , but the Eato at the end , my family being from Panama , or just this little piece , the Eato at the end , it's a diminutive , so it's like it's a little bit , it's not sweet , that's too much , but like if I had a junior , if my son was junior , he would have been known for most of his life as Orlando .
It's like little one , so like it's you know it's kind of all right , I'm going to look out for you Obviously don't know that you're about to end up . You know blowing a guy . So let me help you out , don't get in that car . So yeah , it was kind of cool moment .
Yeah , it was nice . This guy , just one guy on the line , just gives him , you know is a nice guy . And so now we cut to . He puts his head , wayne , just puts his leans back , puts his head down back up against the wall . Hat down , yeah , hiding , because humiliating . Now we cut to .
We cut to Dell and she is entering a pawn shop and and , boss , walk us through this please , yeah .
So in this scene she walks in , she looks at an accordion or something else . The guy at the counter is with a customer which is , you know , and not how they actually consider people that are coming into pawn things but she is banged up .
She's explaining to him that she was in a car accident with her husband and that she needs money to bury him , and the guy behind the counter is like , well , I can't give you any money for this stuff . This stuff is no good . Dell is obviously listening to all this .
The woman's daughter comes over and , like you know , tugs on Dell's hand or arm or whatever , and then continues back to the employee's only room and Dell goes over to get her and bring her back . She notices that there are fake IDs and fake passwords , that this is running some illegal activities in addition to the stand up business of running a pawn shop .
Sorry , I shouldn't . I shouldn't denigrate the good pawn people , but you know you're not known for the best business practices .
We'll say so anyway so she taking advantage of desperate people , the last legs , for money . It's a . It's a sound business practice because the demand will always be there , but it is . You can only imagine that it would be a soul drinking way to to navigate your time on this planet . But people do it all the time and worse .
So let's hope there are good pawn brokers out there . The noble this guy doesn't seem to want to be no .
And which is why when the lady goes to the bathroom , she's actually need some tissue and the guy says , oh , there's toilet paper in the bathroom . So she goes off to wipe her face and when she leaves , Dell walks over and says I saw the illegal activity . You're going to give that lady your money or I'm going to call the cops ?
And he's like , well , the cops will be gone . So she shows him her phone and says , well , the picture on my phone . If it won't , be so like give her money .
Yeah , she says like right , I'll take it all down by the time the cops get here . Yeah , she's like yeah .
No , you won't . I love how again resourceful she is . She calls him a dick stick . Yes , yeah , she calls her a little kid , yeah , and she's like , oh bullshit .
Like she's hard enough that she knows a scam when she sees it , because she's been running them with Girl Scout cookies since she was old enough to walk , but also like this guy is a dick stick and she's unafraid of the dynamic . You know what I mean . When I was a kid , every adult I thought was responsible and you know I was .
So I was such a rule follower and I would never at her age have spoken out to like someone I thought of even as a remote authority figure . But she's like , no , this guy's a fucking wiener , like you know right away .
But we watch him . Be one right . Like I don't hear her say that and go well , excuse me , young lady . Like I'm like , yeah , call it like you see it , girl , because I mean he could say I can't buy that watch . He doesn't have to say your dead husband had a cheap watch . You know what I mean .
He seems to be taking some pleasure in the power he has over this woman , who is clear , like her face is banged up Even if she wasn't in a car accident . Life has not been kind . You don't have to be a dick . And so when she called him a dick stick , I was sort of like yeah great , exactly right , but I'm with you .
I , yeah , I certainly was not this at 16 .
No , All right , boss . So what happens when the lady comes back out ?
Oh , ma'am , I've changed my mind and I am going to give you some money for your things . At which point Dell , realizing that she does in fact have the money and is on her way out with her daughter , walks back up to the counter and says , oh , I've changed my mind about buying this phone , and throws it back on the counter and walks out .
Hey thanks , dick stick .
It's just an empty phone case . Like she's so resourceful . It's like what I loved about the opening scene . Like it's just like wow , Like you , just if you've been down on your luck enough , you just learn . Like you got to figure out how to use any and everything at your disposal .
Well , this is why you hear like , and again , anecdotally , I'm sure I know there's studies about it , but I wish I could cite them . But we hear , oh , a lot of A students work for a lot of C students , absolutely when you go ? Like , yeah , because you're down on your luck . You know , not everybody can go to Yale , am I right , coach ? So you ?
Oh , the depth of my hatred is just .
But like Dell is , she's scrappy man , like she's going to figure out a way to get this thing done . And so , bam , she does that and she did a good deed . And let's not look past that . There was a lot of Robin Hood . There was a justice element to it , that is that's the word Weirdly Wayne-esque right ?
Yes , and actually it's interesting that you say that I'm trying to think back , if we've seen her to this point leverage that part of herself for someone else before . But this is all her being good . The little girl starts to wander and she goes to get the little girl , which is the only reason she's Usher's her back Right .
And she can go over there to figure out hey , that door's open , like I can see in now . She purely went over there like hey , sweetie , and then sees the thing and then uses it all to help and ends up . Of course she's not then going to be like , hey , you want to buy my mother's chain because she knows how that's going to go .
So she leaps , but she just it's all for someone else . I think Robin is a perfect description , but it's very Wayne-esque . Like justice needs to be served here . This is not right .
Right and Wayne is brute force and Dell is more strategy and tactics right ? Yes , she doesn't have the brute force , so she'll use a different methodology to get the same job done . And so we cut over to the . Now we're outside the big box store . We got a homeowner coming up who's a total . He's talking about a dipstick or a dickstick .
Yeah .
Yeah , I mean this guy , amazing casting on this guy . I'll call his name out in a minute once we have that screen open . But he basically asks everybody you got tools , you got tools ? Ccccc , they have their own tools and ask Wayne if he's got tools and he says he holds up his hammer .
Which is great , because I was like , oh shit , he's got no tools . I was like , yeah , the holding up the hammer was like he doesn't know how to use it properly . He doesn't know how to use it for its intended uses , but he's got a hammer . That's at least one step forward .
I got a hammer . At least he's got that . That might have gotten him in the door for this job . So we cut to the homeowner rubbing out a non-existent smudge on his Camaro . Is that a Camaro , I think , or Something in that family .
Is it a Firebird ?
Or is it like a charger ? I was thinking a Dodge Charger Is a charger . Yeah , so he is . Oh , we pan up from a oh yes , challenger , that's it , challenger . We pan up from the bumper of his Challenger , where he's got a bumper sticker . We just talked about bumper stickers with Coach , so that was good . And what does the bumper sticker say ? Coach ?
Jealous much , and the S in jealous is a dollar sign Like it's . Like it's everything we were talking about earlier that you feel like the person who doesn't you know for a fact this guy is not doing proper merging etiquette Like you . Just Nobody with that jealous much bumper sticker is stopping at stop signs or being a decent part of society .
Like he's just going to be that guy .
No , and so we cut to Wayne making all kinds of stupid mistakes . He pulls a 2x4 out of the work truck and bumps the front of the Challenger which says Challenger on it . So thank you , boss , appreciate that he is .
You know , they're like the guy isthe boss , like the homeowner who has hired these workers , has sort of a foreman on site but went and picked up these workers himself . But he has that thing that was very present when I was . It still exists everywhere .
It still exists everywhere , but to a lesser degree than when in older days , which is when a boss will just treat you like absolute shit , like refuse and yell at you and there's nothing you can do about it . And I know we've come a long way , but that's stillespecially in the trades .
It's still very , very common and it may not be as much screaming but it'll be passive , aggressive or it'll be finding ways to fuck you with hard labor and things like that . So that's the dynamic that they're going for with this homeowner . Is that fair guys .
Absolutely . It's predatory and , given what we just watched in the pawn shop , like , yeah , it's just like a predatory quality to it . I know , because of where I found you and what this dynamic is , that there's literally nothing I could do . You're piss on your lunch and you're going to smile and get up and grab your tools and keep work .
The power dynamic is that stark . Yeah , it gets people to take advantage .
And they really lean into this homeowner . The show wants you to really dislike this one . They really lean into it . They're making very , very clearly defined primary color type lines around . Who is the bad , quote , unquote , bad guy in this episode ? This guy is a complete ass hat and no one . No one , no one would like him .
I can't imagine his family would like like . No one in the world would like this guy . He is awful . He is an awful human being . Now we cut to . Oh God , I love this scene so much . We cut to outside of a bar . Carl and Teddy are sitting inside the cab of a tiny truck cab and they are waiting for their dad .
The dad has gone into the bar and this is , you know , who knows on the way . They don't say exactly where . This is right .
Bobby Luchetti has gone into the bar and Carl and Teddy Luchetti are sitting in the cab and you know they're like Well , boss , how would you explain this Teddy , one of these guys and it almost doesn't matter which one is Carl and which one is Teddy one of them is older , one of them is younger by a minute and 40 seconds .
What's the best way to break down the scene , boss ?
Well , number one , I believe that they said that they were in Baltimore . At this point , they think Baltimore , oh , yes , right , yes , they did say Baltimore .
So they've made some time right . That is yeah , they're on their way . They're on their way , yeah right .
The best way of describing it is that their dad is inside the bar , the driver's seat is open and Teddy and Carl are still sitting right next to each other , like neither one of them even was like hey , scoot over and sit in the driver's seat , because that's where daddy sits . So you leave daddy seat open . Even that's a great point .
Like , what are you guys doing ? Not only are you refute , your dad said stay in the car , so you're staying in the car and staying in your seats . Like do you still have your seatbelts on ? The fuck , are you doing ?
How many times has this happened ? Oh , that they're this indoctrinated into the like . They know not to slide over to the driver's seat . Yeah , if Bobby comes out and he has to wait for one of those fucking guys to slide over , there's gonna be . There's gonna be hell to pay right . There's gonna be physical violence .
There's gonna be physical violence . It also , when I was a kid , it was already becoming an issue of like don't leave your kids in the car when you go into the store , even if it's only for a second , even if you just need to run in real quick and grab something .
So these guys , being in their what like early 20s , their dad was leaving them in the car in 2003 when they were small children .
For sure . No question Like no question .
Oh yeah , to go drink . Yeah , like this is very funny .
Not just like I need to run in and drop this letter at the post office . Like you guys , stay here . I'm gonna hang out in this bar for 45 minutes .
Yeah , yeah . It's like someone leaving a dog in the car to go to the movies , right oh ?
don't do that around a white person . They there is . There is nothing worse . It's no quicker way to get the usually insensitive white community to either hate or love you than by making sure the person you were arguing with has been mean to dogs . That's come on . We can I can , deal with racism , but I draw the line and cruelty Right Right .
It's accurate . That is so funny that you feel it . That is really true .
You'll get a lot of people rooting , voting for horrendous people , but like stepping up to defend a dog in a car . Not that I disagree with that premise I think that's not true . But but but man priorities people . He's been in there a while , right , he's got to be three full beers deep by now .
Fuck , do I know you figure , five minutes of beer piss breaks . How the fuck long we got to sit here , Fuck .
Wait , wait , wait , wait , wait , wait , wait , wait , wait , wait , don't rush past this . So he says three full beers deep by now , Right , and then you got to figure five minutes of beer . And he starts to do the math on his fingers and gets thwarted . The math totally . De Kimbe matumbles him back to just forget it .
It's like , oh my God , these guys are so fucking dumb it's unbelievable . So how the fuck long we got to sit in here ? Is really him finally just giving up on the like actual articulation of how long they're going to be stuck , how long they've been stuck in this car , right ?
Yeah , and then one of them just decides it's Teddy , I think the older brother you know . Let the man have a few beers and peace please . His daughter's missing . He's worried out of his gourd Like I don't know if that's a . Is that a common thing anywhere ?
else . I know it from Like out of your gourd , I know it from like folks , I know from your neck of the woods .
My neck of the woods . Oh , I was fucking pissed out of my gourd guy , out of my gourd . I'm like gourd . A gourd is a is a goddamn vegetable . It was .
It's a fucking it's a , it's a very interesting way to describe your own head , but okay , he's worried out of his gourd .
But everything's got going on , go going through . You're going to be , you're going to be the BF police and so Carl's like , all right , well , we can at least put on some tunes , do not ? We're not allowed to touch daddy's radio after last time . You know , I bet , I bet he's gonna remember . I bet he doesn't even remember our birthday tomorrow .
Christ , would you shut the fuck up . He's in there getting bombed . We should be the ones celebrating . You know it's my birthday before yours . Just , teddy , you know you hear me complaining . Oh , that minute and 40 seconds makes you so fucking mature . You know you had , and you know I had that cord wrapped around my neck .
I lost it when I first heard that the little brother talking about this older brother , twin brother , you know I had that cord wrapped around . I was like you don't remember that . No , you know what I mean . It's like you just know that's the family lore . Right , right , that's the story . To which Teddy says what ? This is unbelievable . You snooze you lose .
Holy shit , these two , what ? What kind of response is that ? What are we discussing ?
I love them so much . I love them in such a Jason Mendoza , andy Dwyer way . I love them , I love dumb characters and these guys something about them . It's so funny because , again , it's an art form to play a really uniquely stupid person and do it really well and make it funny without it being mean spirited and still capturing a lot of the authenticity .
It's no joke , man . These guys deserve a tremendous amount of credit . It is very different , no because they mean it .
They're not telling jokes Like we're laughing because this is beyond ridiculous . But these two are having a heart-to-heart argument and debate about their state and station and life and their relationship to their father , and you know what I mean , like sibling rivalry . Yes , it's all in there . Yes , they're just idiots .
Right , this is just the way it sounds for them . Right , right , right , exactly . You're just like sibling rivalry , like Carl is having a real anticipatory dread about his birthday . Yeah , you know we're going to be sitting outside the hotel tomorrow doing nothing , because he's going to be nursing this hangover .
And that one actually made . I mean it was funny , but it's also so deeply sad Like I was like , oh , like he won't even allow them to be in there . He's going to make them sit outside because he's nursing a hangover and if they made a sound it would bother him my god damn .
And Teddy responds I'll not let you smear the name of a father like this . You know there are only three real men in Brockton Mass One who is a coach , rocky Marciano , and two who's number two boss , marvin Hagler . Marvin Hagler , famous boxer .
Marvin Hagler , we have Marvin Hagler , high school regional voc tech and three ah , father One , you got two legendary boxers and the third one is their dad , bobby Luchetti .
I'm sure everyone who lives there would produce the same list . By the way , what ?
No question what , anywhere , the man is a goddamn legend . And Carl's like fuck this , I'm getting my tunes . And now they get no . Slap fight as Carl tries to reach the glove compartment in front of Teddy . Carl's in the middle reaches in front of Teddy and Teddy fights him off . He's like what the fuck do you care ? To which ?
Oh my god , coach , I can't even chefs kiss my fingers what the fuck do you care if I get the music ? And what does Teddy say in response to that ?
You're going to make me a compliment after the fact . I believe he means a compliment . I think he means a compass . I'm like Jesus man , come on . But yeah , you're going to make me a compliment after the fact , there we go .
I do absolutely love that line . I also feel like I should mention that I am not as familiar with the only three legends that come from Brockton Mass as these gentlemen are , Because I thought that the movie Rocky was about the boxer Rocky Marciano and I did not realize that that was not true .
And Ty was well into my 30s Really Like I was a grownup and it was because there's the bit in Coming to America where the guys in the barbershop are talking about Rocky Marciano and how old he is , and I was like , oh wait , hold on , hold on . So I don't think this works out . I think if they're talking about Rocky Marciano , that must be something else .
That can't be this movie , rocky Balboa .
They're not talking about Rocky Balboa . That's great . So that's hey , rocco yeah it's different , rocco . This is why I followed high school wrestling . I don't know about this shit . I don't know what you're telling me .
You don't have to fuss . That's it . There's no rule .
You're not supposed to know about this . No , no , no , I just thought that was . It was one of those things where , as a grownup , you're like , oh right , that was a thing you should have thought about before .
It definitely happens Like I wish I could think of one right now , but I've definitely had moments where I was like oh yeah , you know what . That makes a lot more sense than what I thought , oh oh , oh .
Like last Wednesday , I figured out Queen the band name .
Yes yes yes , yes , yes .
I was like , wait , wait , what ? Like it totally didn't just missed , a complete miss . Like I didn't even . I even that was a pitch I watched . I didn't even swing at it because I never even occurred to me Freddie Mercury would . I'm like , why would I not put two into it ?
That was like when , coach , we were doing Ted Lasso and they said oh , flipping straights . Yes , and I was like I can't for the life of you .
I googled it you looked it up , I'm like going down some like fishing rabbit hole , like I really completely missed it Completely missed it .
I couldn't come up with it when you were talking about Queen . But the other big one for me is that I watched almost every single episode of the TV show House , and it wasn't until well afterwards and I was like , oh , like Holmes , like like fucking Sherlock Holmes , oh , OK , I just learned that right this moment .
I swear to God , I watched every fucking episode . I was like , oh , he's such a good detective , like I said those words out loud and I was like , ah , like the other one .
I did not , I never . I didn't watch House medical shows , I can't . I get real queasy , so but it makes sense . I've seen enough of it to know that I should have probably put that together . Thank you , boss . See , this is the thing You're making . We're making each other a compliments after the fact . Yeah , there we go . It's OK to not know everything .
That's the whole thing . We sometimes I mispronounce philosophers , and then we got listeners writing in telling us the right way , how to do it . How are we supposed to know everything ? It's crazy to think anyone would know everything .
So anyway , and usually when they do , it comes along with a terrible personality trait where they know that they know everything and it's like absolutely off putting . So yeah , I'll settle for it for knowing many , many things . And and we can , we can fill in the rest as we go .
I love the dynamic between Carl and Teddy , where Teddy fights the little brother , little brother by a minute and 40 seconds , fights him off and and Carl sits back like as if he's like fine , like fuck it , and then a second later goes right back and fights for the music again .
This time he wins , like a shitty little brother kind of thing , and we see that it's a box full of cassette tapes and he pulls out one , good God , good God , and he holds it in Teddy's face . And what does he say , boss ?
Feels like a Jack Jams day . Jack Jams .
Jack Jams . He taunts his brother . With Jack Jams , which is a . For those of you who don't know what Jack Jams is , there was a dynamic prior to music all being digitized you used to and prior to CDs , really , you used to have it started with cassette tapes where you would have a mix tape . You'd have multiple .
Someone would put together a mix tape and Jack Jams would be like a pump up mix . So it'd be like oh , it's a , it's a generic sports related pre . You know , you , somebody buy the Jack Jams thing . They often sold them on on television , right , like in some sort of infomercial format .
And you buy the Jack Jams and it would have a bunch of pump up songs . You throw it in that in your boom box before your football game or whatever . Right , and that's what . That's what Jack Jams was . But these are gone from the world . Like for a while they would do them as compact discs .
But in the world of Spotify and Apple Music and you know you name it digital streaming platforms , these things don't you could get a mix , you could sort of users will make mix , sort of mixes that you can follow or things like that .
But it's not the prevalence of that sort of dynamic of the Columbia Record House kind of , yeah , functional album is not the same as it used to be .
It was the athletic version of now . That's what I call music 17 , or wherever we're at on that . If they're still doing that too , that might already be a dated reference .
There's a . There's a song . Here's the thing . This is so funny . We talk about I think coaches at some point mentioned trying to digitize his VHS collection or something like that and so there's this song that I've been trying to find . And I was a as you might imagine , middle class white boy going to prep schools .
I was a huge reggae person and you would never think it , but I would always get these reggae mixes . I just love reggae . I always love reggae . I love it to this day . I just love it .
If something about that beat does something for my mental health , I don't know what it is , but it's like this is where I should kind of be and so like that island kind of vibe . So there was one song on one of my . It was like reggae , ok . So there was this series of reggae events . You'd have reggae party , you know , reggae party to .
Then you have reggae dance party , reggae dance party to , reggae dance party 17 . It was like they would come out with all these things and I forget which one this song was on , and I know I have the CD somewhere but I can't find it . And so I'm scouring the world looking for this Right and it's not there .
It's gone and I'm like , how could this be gone ? How could this kick ass reggae song ? And there's versions of it that I can find , but it's not the right artist or it's not the right . So the sound feels off to me and you feel like , oh , in this day and age when everything's digitized , it should be right , it should be there .
But so now what it made me do is I sort of did a low key freak out about all my old stuff that I have that I'm like , oh no , I got to really hold on to these , like these actually have . I thought for a while , no , they have no value because everything will just be available on the cloud .
But now I'm like , oh no , some of these mix tapes like you cannot get . And back then , once upon a time , you'd make mixes for each other , like girlfriend , boyfriend kind of thing , which is a lot of that and you'd tape it off the radio . You'd have to sit there and hit record waiting for a song and then you'd get the DJ's voice over it .
So like , right , and so you'd have the DJ as part of the and it becomes part of the sort of vibe or the feeling of the mix tape and you can never , ever , sort of you know sort of copy that or reconstitute it in this day and age , because those things don't exist .
I mean , when's the last time you heard of DJ , unless you're a person listening to the regular regularly , to the radio .
And you kind of would have to , I guess , if not , make that choice , like I guess in the car or whatever , like it's so much , there's so little .
It's funny you mentioned that part about the recording like your song , because there would be a song or whatever that I was like I want to get that song , and so it would be like truly waiting , or like waiting for the countdown Top eight at eight or whatever .
Yeah , and being like , and so this , so and I don't mean this in a oh , nobody knows how to wait for anything these days , like I've read stuff and watched stuff that said , actually , like our attention spans haven't changed appreciably in like 50 years . People just make that stuff up .
But there is something about the idea that , like , if I'm curious about something right now , I just Google it . If I want to hear a song right now , I just go to whatever Spotify , apple Music or whatever and I just search and boom and 30 seconds later you're playing it .
There was something specific about sitting around for a section of your life Just waiting for that song so you could put it on this tape right now . I don't know . There was almost like a relationship with the music and the radio station and the DJ . Yes , it was different .
And you would have to put it on the tape where it needed to go on the tape . Oh yeah , you'd have to back up the tape because you had a song there and you're like , hey , this , I want this song after this song , so I got to wait for this . It's not like you could say I'll put this , I'll put song one in song three and I'll fill in song two later .
No no , no , no . It has to go in chronological order because you have to fill it so . I know it was a ritual that , for better or worse , we've moved on from , and , but trying to recreate those moments , yeah , this is where nostalgia comes from , because I'm certain that it's better now , right , and .
But in that , coach , I think what you're referencing is in a very meditative or sort of focused way , it forced you to kind of you know , sort of step out of yourself and be part of another . I don't know , you had to . You had to listen to Casey Kasem or whatever . Or whoever ? To get to that You're like OK , is it going to be number seven ?
Oh shit , it's not number seven . All right , I probably have time to run and get , get some , get a water or something , and then come back before they say number six , because if it's not seven , I know it's got to be six .
It's got to be yeah .
It's just crazy . But jock jams , that's what jock jams is , folks . And Carl holds it up , flashes it at his brother tauntingly jock jams . Now we cut to outside of church and we see that Dell is looking at what here , boss .
She is outside of a church and she's sort of looking at the bulletin board-ish .
Yeah , yeah , it's like a little bulletin board she's taking note of . And she turns and the pastor is right there , or the reverend , or the priest , and he says , can I do anything for you and my child ? And what did she say ?
This is the woman from sorry . I should mention that she was at the church because she was looking up information about the woman at the pawn shop's dead husband . She wants to know a little bit more about her . So the priest turns around , sees Dell standing there and says can I do anything for you , my child ?
And she says , yeah , don't go molesting nobody , because pawn shop owners , priests , waitresses , it does not fucking matter , she's going to give you what for .
We've talked about this Once upon a time the church was infallible and people believe that and they bought that . And in our lifetimes every foundational structure of society has failed us . So I'm not saying pawn shops were ever a foundational structure of society , but you would say , oh , a man going into business .
Or it would be man , because historically it was always men . You'd say , oh , he is a quality of a business owner . He is these certain qualities that he's a man about town , he's going into business , he's a businessman and you're like now you're like get fuck , that's a highway robber . He might as well just have a mask and a gun in this day .
There's no , oh , he's going into finance . Oh , okay , so you're gonna do a shit load of blow and steal my fucking 401 . Thing . Got it , I got it Like it doesn't .
So on some and that's obviously a vast exaggeration , but still in this day and age , it's very difficult to look extrinsically for that type of security , which is where you get total football and that's where you get the Ted Lasso locker room environment , and that's why you have that insular thing where you say , okay , this is our thing , where we're safe , because
so many places aren't .
I also think , though , in the yes and of it all , that she's at this point she's weaponizing that ability , because what she really wants is to get the fuck out of there , and she doesn't want to answer any questions and she doesn't want this guy bothering her right . And she's I'm on my heels .
I got to put you on your fucking heels so that , while you're on your heels , I can escape down these stairs to get the hell out of you .
So there's something also , again , that's crafty , because she has no reason to believe this particular priest is doing any such thing , right , but she uses that to , like , put him on his heels and in that moment of him being shocked by what she says , she makes over . You know , she gets out of it .
So , yes , sorry , everything you both said absolutely correct . The only thing I think it's actually kind of good to have that much skepticism for anybody in power , only because the power differential between them and yourself is usually so strong that you don't want to feel like , oh , what they're doing is great , they could fuck with you .
So it is much better for a lot of people to at least begin a relationship saying I don't like , I'm skeptical as hell of this whole thing . And until you proved yourself , until Ted was able to get the hot water turned on in the shower so that Roy understood that he was going to listen to their needs , that's a great point .
He wasn't gonna fucking do it .
Like , yeah , that's a really wow . That was very symbolic . Yeah , that's a great pull Because that was a key moment . That was a key moment for . Roy . He was like okay the shower has been fixed .
And Monty the new gaffer heard what we said . Yeah .
Ronald McDonald at least got me a hot shower . I'm willing to give him this much back , that's right , yeah , I would do .
Yeah , it's almost obscene . The level of really powerful , good shower can change my mood in like seconds , like I am so easily swayed by an amazing show .
So , if you like , go to like a resort or something like not that , I go to resorts a lot or you go to a hotel , right , and you get , and you're like , oh , gotta get this wash , this plane stink off me , right . And then you jump in and it's piss .
You're like God damn it , you know like piddling or like sometimes they put the governor heads on that where it comes out like a mist that takes 40 minutes to get your face and you're like what is happening ? Like . But if you go in and it's just like a really good , powerful shower feels like , oh God , all right , I can face anything , okay .
So we get a couple of quick scenes of Wayne screwing up at work . The column idiota . We're gonna have to redo all this . The Mexican workers there are . They're like I love , I love that . This is what this show does , that I really love . He is the minority here . And they don't soft sell it .
They don't say like , oh , mexicans are so wonderful , this is written by a white guy , so let's like make every Mexican beautiful , like it's like no , these are workers who have to get shit done and he fucked it up and now they have to redo it and they're like you're a fucking idiot .
But he is the outside man in this dynamic and I'm like , oh God , it's so basic and I love it . I love how they just give you this little glimpse into this environment and out comes the homeowner . He's a total dick weed . You can go back to your Casas , or all right , amigos , it's quit and time . I'll drop you at the parking lot .
Go back to your Casas , or whatever Mexican for shithole is . Like you couldn't have a more mustache twisting . I know it is so obvious , but it works , cause I'm like I hate this guy . You say to me whatever Mexican for shithole is .
It's so much in that line . That's like why ? Remember I think I shared with you that my definition for an asshole is somebody who causes pain unnecessarily , and that's a perfect example of what I mean . All you have to say is I will see you tomorrow . It's fewer words , it's less energy . Like why , what is all this ? What do you ? What ? What ?
What Mexican for shithole ? Like why , why , what ? Like you're an asshole . You're officially an asshole . There's no benefit to that , other than I'm more powerful than you and I'm going to make sure I like take an extra shit on you before you walk out the door .
What the ?
fuck . So yeah , I'm with you . I really did not like this guy at all .
There's also something about it that , like he went intentionally to pick up people that he assumed were non-documented residents that's right In order to be able to exploit them . Yes , yes . And then he is going to insult their culture because he has the power to exploit them . Yeah , yeah yeah , Like you wanted them here and then you're going to insult them .
It's just in order to show that you don't need to treat them with any level of respect .
It's pretty remarkable .
He is . He is otherworldly , like full of malice . He walks by Wayne and jacks him into the wall on his way out , like just cause he can . Wayne gives him a look like a death stare . But six am tomorrow . You might want to show up , it's payday . And someone says gracias , senor .
And then one of the other guys says about Wayne , help , chico de Marda won't be here , yeah , which is that sucks . But again , what I'm saying is like they don't . It's not this . Oh , sometimes in shows you get like you get a , your white guilt takes over as a white writer and you're like , okay , well , let's make the president a black guy .
Like just shut the fuck up , just make it how it actually is . You know what ?
I mean .
And some of these Mexicans are going to be fucking great because some Mexicans are great , and some of these Mexicans are going to be kind of dicks because some Mexicans are dicks , and it's just like I love . Yeah , I love it . And this guy's like I don't like this fucking dumb ass getting ditto because he I had to redo his work .
Yeah . I don't want to do extra work because this guy's a fucking idiot Just to toss it because we have to go too far into this piece . But even the thing about like to you , we're going to show up tomorrow , it's payday there's a like , there's a real nasty subtext to that .
That's like because if I were to give you money now , you'd go drink at all and not show up in the morning . So I got to like you know , make sure you understand like , come back tomorrow so you can get your money . It's a real nasty like undercurrent even to that part . Yeah , yeah , for sure .
I mean , that's a widely known concept that you just you can't , you just absolutely have to hold up .
Mexicans as a race . They can't manage money . Jesus Christ , you go what ?
Oh fuck , what are you talking ? No , it's so . It's . You're right , it's the subtle , it's the same . So it's racism . Let's call it , it is racism . But it's a form of racism where it's buried in all kinds of it's like saying put Sam Obisanya back on defense , where he belongs , Right .
Yes , and you go , wait , wait a minute , like you didn't have to say where he belongs like that , like you know what I mean . Yes , exactly right , exactly right . Yeah , because tomorrow's payday is look .
So these guys are gonna run off and guess what ? Bro , you couldn't do this on your own . You needed their skilled labor to do the fucking work for it . It makes me crazy that this guy has a superiority identity over the guys that he's hiring cause he can't do it Exactly that . They know what they're doing , you don't . Where is your superior ?
I don't know Well .
I mean , I don't know if we can get into structural racism right now , but that like especially when I was a kid , the idea or definition that racism was not liking somebody because of their skin color is incredibly wrong . Because then you say , oh well , I'm dating a black woman , so obviously I can't be racist .
It's just that I happen to fetishize everything about her .
Yes .
Because , like , it isn't about disliking an individual or even disliking a group , it is about being able to exert power over others because of your race versus theirs .
So white people get to say I get to call you , your house , a shithole , and you can't do anything about it , not even because I'm white and you're not , but because I have that power and you don't . That is the racism , and I'm really glad I'm schooling you on this .
No , no , no , no . But I'm glad you're no , no , no , no . But seriously , I'm glad you're phrasing it the way you are , because it does get there tends to be a piece of like let's not be racist , let's be nice , and I'm like those aren't really opposites .
And like you , can really get those things away from each other , because it really just complicates the conversation and throws people off . And you're right , I mean there's so much that's built into . Like why'd you bump him ? Why did you bump him as you ?
work by .
You didn't need to do that , like it's just what you just said , like I have the power to do it . So you know , basically , fuck you as a damn . So yeah , it's the structural pieces of it .
I remember telling my son my oldest is on the spectrum I remember explaining to him when he was really young . He saw something whatever and he was like he was trying to understand , like , why would this ? Why would people like have a problem with this ?
And I was like , oh yeah , some white people or whatever would look at other races and he's like , and he kind of snort , laughed for a second . He was like but do they know ? It's like skin pigmentation , like . Does he know ? Like , like , he's like really , he's like so , but he's like , why is it ? Why did it end up being ? He was fascinated .
He's like why is it skin color ? Why is it like hair color or eye color or like ? Why did it end up being ? How did that happen ? Like , or were the height or weight Like ? How does it not like one key thing ? It's amazing . But he's like do they realize that this is like a genetic encoded , like this pigment ? He was like . I remember watching this .
He was probably nine , eight or nine or seven , you know little , and his mind was blown that that would that people would think because of this , like the cause and effect of that he just like could not represent .
There are moments like that I really enjoy with kids because they don't understand . So you kind of can be like , oh , you don't get it , but also it's like actually , kid , we don't get it . Like you know what I mean , like you are actually correct right now . This is fucking stupid .
I remember playing , you know , the card game war with Alex and you know he's really little at this point and he and we're playing and like I forget when or whatever we must have just flipped the cards and he goes why is the king higher than the queen ?
Yeah , yeah , I remember he was just sort of like what is happening here and I just thought like you know what , kid ? Yeah , and I think about stuff all the time , and I don't know the last time or if I've ever stopped to go like hey , we could play the game differently . I mean , there are cards we could all agree .
This time we're going to play with a queen tie than the king . We could do that , but we don't , you know . So , yeah , anyway , well , that's interesting Chess is actually- .
What dumb fucking king going one step at a time . Like- . Like , yeah , yeah , meanwhile the queen has , like , full purview over the board . Yeah , at least we got one thing right in this world . Well , so this guy's a total dick and he's just horrible to the workers . And Wayne finally makes it home quote unquote home to the house where they're squatting .
He walks in and Dell's nowhere to be found and coach what's going on here .
All right . So we'd seen her sitting on the couch . So it's sort of like , well , what the hell ? And as he walks into the living room , she pops up out of the coffee table , essentially , which is the storage space , and you learn that you know you fit in there first of all .
So that's funny because , yeah , she's physically smaller and he would never have thought of that . But also she then says you did do the secret knock . So they've got this really figured out , like they're not just you know , they have really figured out like we've got to find a place to live , we got to make this work .
We can't fuck this up , we certainly can't get caught . And so , at any rate , that's their piece . I'm tired . Sorry , I forgot , I thought you was Jeff , which gave me a little chuckle , because we've met Jeff Nearly gave me a fricking coronary Again . Totally feels like the region . And then , and , by the way , we got to go to a funeral . Who died ?
Some lady's husband from back home , from here . You know people here . No , I saw her at the pawn shop . This lady lost her husband in a car crash . She ain't got no money for a casket . Anyway , we got to go to Henry's funeral . Henry's the dead guy . It's his funeral , ain't it ? Like now , wayne's the fucking idiot .
I'm like you're explaining that you got to go to some funeral for some guy . What are you talking about ? But anyway , it's his funeral , ain't it ? And the lady invited you to a funeral ? Yeah , she was handing out invitations at the pawn shop . Also . Again , I love the sarcasm when this does not make sense . He's not wrong . Yes , they were pretty .
You should see . I pinned one on the fridge . I'm kidding Jesus .
Yeah , he looks at the fridge . The shot is of him looking at the fridge with nothing on it .
And trying to figure out what happened , I guess , to the things you pinned up there . I'm kidding Jesus , I got to find something black to wear . Rich , of course , is the title of this episode . So you're going to buy a dress for a funeral for a guy you don't know , because you saw this lady . I'm confused . It's just sad , ok , and I think we should go .
What you think people being dead is , you don't think people being dead is sad ? Now , I think people being dead is sad .
Yeah , this is like the . That's what she says . She's like you don't think people being dead is sad now . No , I think people being dead is sad , Like he's like .
Oh , my bad , that's , I don't know .
Yeah , I was looking at the proof , yeah yeah , she kind of sort of teased him up and he's like , yeah , no , I think that's kind of not the issue .
I don't know what's happening .
So she's like so what's with the interrogation ?
Right , yeah , if you don't want it , you don't have to , which is very like Wayne . I know you didn't figure out the following , or one , and I wish I were here right now to tell you that doesn't actually mean you don't have to . Wayne , don't believe that , right ? So yeah , anyway . He says I have to work and that turns the conversation .
She says she says how was it ? You dare or whatever . And what does he say ?
Everyone's not nice and I think the boss hates me , to which she's .
Which is really really funny . And she's lost in thought , right , and she goes . That's good , that's good .
Yeah , they're definitely both each on their own track to a certain degree . I had never been to a funeral before which Not even for your mom . Which I thought the question before he asked it . So for me it really worked . And I know you think , but she doesn't explain , not even for your mom , no , but she's yeah she wasn't yeah .
Like we're like because I was waiting for no , this happened . But OK , and then it's . She just shakes her head . Yeah , that's it . I know you think it's weird that I want to go to a funeral and maybe it is , but I want to and I don't need you to understand , because maybe I don't understand either .
Ok , and she turns and Mr Hard Day's work is mouth open , sleep snoring .
Well , it starts with a single when she gives this little speech and if you think about it , I know you think it's weird that I want to go to a funeral , and maybe it is , but I want to . I don't need you to understand , because maybe I don't understand either .
Ok , that's all in the single , and then we don't see the double , we don't see the two shot until they pull back and he's , he's on there . But this it doesn't take doesn't change that . That's a , that's a very that little insight into her personality and that shows real growth , boss .
It does . I was actually thinking about the fact that with a lot of relationships , there gets to be a point where you do require that sometimes people trust you , even if you can't explain exactly why , like a sign of a deeper relationship is . Can I ask you to do this thing for me ?
I don't know why I want you to do this thing , but I'm going to ask you to do this thing , even though it might be unreasonable or irrational . Like just just be there , just just I need you to show for this .
I think it's amazing . I still don't think I'm great . I think maybe women are better than this , than men are , or something . But I can't remember saying I don't really know why I want this happened , but I need you to be there for me .
I don't think I may have never said that in my life , but I think it's like because I think we're supposed to have answers for the why . If I'm going to put you out , I better have an answer .
But I think it's like even more courageous or sort of brave to be like I don't know why , I don't know Like I don't have the answer , but I want you to trust me on this one . That needs to happen for some reason .
So , whatever she's going through , I feel like it's clearly profound for her and notable , and I just like that she owns it and she's like again , she's like I don't know the answer , but I don't know . I don't need you to be whatever . I can go on my own , but I somehow need to do this .
I think making the connections we do now with all of life in Ted Lasso , this is the point you're describing coach , of being able to do this , is Roy saying about Isaac . I don't know why he went up in the stands and it's none of my fucking business . Yeah , yes , I give him love and basically that's what she's saying Give me love .
I've talked about my definition of love and optimizing the options for someone or something , or the investment in optimizing those options , and I think you need it . But even if you don't understand why you need it , you need it and that's enough .
And yeah , absolutely right , yeah , so so move on . Oh god , boss , go ahead .
I have no way of proving that this is true or not , but there's a small part of me that wonders if her dad didn't have a funeral for her mom , or If there was a funeral that her dad said you're too young , you can't come with , you need to stay home . And when she said , well , like why ?
And he said you just came , and so this is sort of the opposite of that that , if she wasn't at her mom's funeral and she wasn't told why she couldn't be there , now she wants to attend a funeral in order to understand what it might have been like , but doesn't really understand that . That's the compulsion here .
Yeah right , very well said . We move on to the next day . Wayne is back at work . He's screwing everything up , he keeps making a mess .
They finally put him on demo duty and he demos the wrong wall , to which to which the homeowner comes in and Flips the fuck out and the nice guy that called him gringito in the beginning Sneakily saves his ass and says he dips his finger in the mall , his lunch , the mole , and holds it up and says look at the kid found mold in the wall .
I told him to do it because there's mold in this wall . But it wasn't mold , it was Molly . And but he saved and up saving Wayne's ass . And so that's a bit . I sort of did two , two scenes there , but we jump from there . That's just a nice little little sort of moment .
It starts out with talking about Wayne getting the job as the demo guy and then later on he screws it up . Now Wayne , the net . At the same time , carl and Teddy come out of the Motel that , like the , it looks like a real rundown motel . Carl says nice birthday gift , goddamn lamp . To my head she's .
So Teddy says serves you right for draining the man's fucking cab battery . So what happened was they did . Listen to tunes , listen to jock jams . Bobby came in drunk out of his head , turn the car over and thing wouldn't , wouldn't start right , and so he hit . He hit Carl with a lamp . I mean wow , teddy says you had to have your precious tunes .
I fucking told you is I don't know , I don't . You're smiling about . To be honest , ted , now we're gonna spend our birthday getting this man a cab battery while he sleeps off his fucking hangover . You know what ? That's the last time I want to hear you talking about that man's drink . Ted is still attacking Carl , defending Bobby .
He says you know , you know , kind of had it up here with the disrespect for me to be honest , which is so , oh , my god , I love it so much . I've had it up to here with the disrespect for me to be honest . You know what I'm just saying ?
This is a special day , okay , so that means we owe it to ourselves to get something cool A couple of 40s or something that made me laugh . Couple of , yeah , a couple of 40s . That's really funny for anybody outside , outside of America . Those are giant beer bottle , 40 ounce bottles of beer or cans , I guess . If 40s and cans , I think they may .
Yeah , I think , like oh we had something like that , but maybe it's 32 , but yeah , it's basically you . You don't , that's not . You wouldn't expect that to find that in your Classier establishments . Let's put it that way .
No , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no . You typically drink those out of a paper for sure . Stan next to a fire barrel . He says okay , I count at least four more lamp shades inside . You want to add ? Add to that China , which is you want another lamp ? Dad's gonna hit you with another lamp four more times .
Can you imagine somebody in your family being hit with a lamp being so unremarkable that your thought is it's gonna happen again if you say or do another thing , that's gonna be another lamp , that it was not like oh that's the time Dad hit somebody with a lamp , which would be horrific enough , but that this kind of behavior is common enough that they're like
he's not out of a lamps , just so you know ? God damn .
Oh yeah yeah , this is very this is very yeah , no , I had a lot of this , but , um , yeah , it's a yeah , no it's . It's a weird dynamic of that of a certain era .
And so , yeah , you want to add to that China fucking guy and he starts to defend Bobby again , who snuck into that Bruins game , that one time he was wicking ham and we got 86 in the first fucking period , always with the black lining , so instead of the silver lining yeah , that works Unbelievable we got 86 , 86 , that's a weird . I was like , oh , is that ?
Because that's a very interesting show . You know what 86 is , isn't that a ?
Restaurant jargon to get it . Yeah , take it .
That's , that's exactly right . We're out of this kind of fish , we're out of this kind of meat , we're out of this , yeah . So I was like , oh , that's interesting . That felt like I Don't know if these guys would know that term because I don't know Bobby would know that term , but it's interesting , bobby could be .
Actually , I used to work in restaurants quite a bit , especially in the New England area , because you can make a fuckload of money If you got a job at a good restaurant and you were good I was a waiter , server , whatever and If you got regulars , that they would . It was .
I was a nice restaurant that I worked at this for this one summer and the chefs were all . All cooks were like Bobby . They were the worst people like sometimes they would like . This is the place I've referenced it before where I had the , where it had it had career waiters here and it was like where I first met like Queens for the first time .
So that would be oh honey like they were the greatest . So I was really in with them because they were also servers . They were never whatever and they were never like in the in the weight . There were the wait staff . They weren't in the in the kitchen staff .
But sometimes there was such a dichotomy I remember , like you , you know you put in a thing for state was a steakhouse and so you'd have whatever , put a steak , and then one of the shit head cooks would be like orders ups Whatever , and then they'd like push it over to you like across the little divider legs , little counter .
It's like there you go , princess , like or something I'm like I'll kill you . You know it was like full of testosterone . You know it's like night 18 and 19 . I'm like what like ? And they were just like the most bitter . They were really like Bobby , bobby , which they were just bitter , angry , pissed off .
Always they were terrible people , like the people in the back . I'm not saying this is , this is universal , but I could see , if I tried to figure out the etymology of how 86 would have gotten into Carl's language . Maybe Bobby had a job there at one point . Look , we'll get the fucking battery . All right , we're going to Flabby jacks for free hotcakes first .
Did you know what that was ? Hot cakes ? Throw you off . You guys know how cakes are right ? Yeah , I've heard it before .
It's not , it's not what I say , but I knew , yeah , I got it you say what I say pancakes .
Yeah , yeah , the way that a normal person would pancakes and pop . That's those .
Sausage no , yeah , no , no we don't say that , we say so I'm a , I'm a soda , I'm a soda .
I mean it's , it's not a calling it yes , you've married , you married up . I have to say I don't know what to tell you when I was a kid I knew some people that called it tonic .
Oh , you know , that was a real old school in New England , Like it wasn't in Brahman , but it was like a almost Maynard level . Yeah , you want some tonic the Fella ? No , yeah , I'm a tonic Sure .
One of the first times that we went to visit my grandparents and outside of Cincinnati , so not like not that far from Chicago , but they asked us if we wanted a coke and we're like , yeah , no , we'll take you up . They're like what kind of coke do you want ? We're like I Coke , kind Orange Coke . We got Coke . Everything is coke there . It's wild .
So we're going to Flabby Jack's free hotcakes first . It's a God-given right , we ain't getting shit . But daddy always gets free hotcakes on his fucking birthday . All right , fine , but only because his daddy's tradition . I'll take some flapjacks .
And you , just what is happening also like so much , so much built into this , again , like , are they idiots ?
Yes , but there's so much built in to what is happening because , first of all , tradition Like this , like for this family , like this is tradition , but also the tradition From a father you would think would be taking his Children there for their birthdays . Not , you know , saying like it . It's the way I felt when they were sitting outside in the truck .
I was like , even if you weren't gonna buy them a beer , which I have my own questions about you make them sit outside and wait for you as you drink Inside . Like wow . Wow that's some heavy duty shit right there .
Yeah , I mean well , this also goes back to when they were at the the ice cream place . I'm gonna get an ice cream . You fucking are not Like . Just everything about his character is depriving his children of their the things they need .
And , and then , and then , setting Teddy at one minute forty seconds older than Carl to be his de facto enforcer . Right right you know what I mean . So it's like it's interesting , I'm the older brother , so he's got that older brother thing and there's some again . I love talking about the physicality in performances .
You know when , when , when he realizes that there's this moment where you , where he's not gonna get this , is John Champagne plays Carl and Jamie Champagne plays Teddy , and when John who , playing Carl , realizes , like you know , he's not gonna get Hotcakes , he does this thing with his body .
He's like like a little kid , like come on , like you know , and I'm like , oh , I love that , I love the physicality of that , I love it . It's his birthday . For Christ's sake , you can't get full Hotcakes . Like how bad . I mean , what are we talking about here ? We can't wear , he's not entitled to free hotcakes .
But the old man is , and the only thing that brings Teddy around is okay , it's a tradition , it's daddy's tradition , so it's , it's probably fine , holy mackerel .
So this is where we get the scene where Wayne screws up the , the , the , the , hits the wrong wall and then the guy saves them with the moley and then we cut to the thrift store and boss walk us through . What's going on in this thrift store ? Oh boy .
Dalla's looking for something black to wear to the funeral . The only thing she can find is and very short , very tight , strapless black dress . She looks amazing at it . She looks incredible Absolutely , but 100% she should get that dress , but it isn't right for a funeral , which is it's an LBD . It's well , it's not even just an LBD .
It's like there is about three inches of material . If this were like two or three inches longer . This would be like something that Natalie Portman would wear to a movie premiere .
As it stands , it's much closer to a Kelly Bundy which is not appropriate for a movie premiere , not appropriate for a funeral and which is yeah , yeah , yeah yeah it three inches longer to be totally fine . But this is this new wear with a little black heart again . Totally fine at that funeral as it stands ?
No , which is why women's fashion is so fucking fraught with missteps . Because you want to wear something that's like more formal than a casual cocktail dress , but not quite a business outfit like . You've got fucking elements all over the place with our shit , new sons of bitches . You get to put on a suit and that's it .
A darker suit for the more serious shit , and you're done .
Yeah , ridiculous .
But anyway , she , the dress looks great . The guy working there says gonna knock him dead , sweetie , and he , she says I always already dead , so he's like you're into some weird stuff . She looks at the price tag and then goes into the dressing room , it basically deciding she can't get it .
Oh , I thought the price is 20 bucks and she's like I don't have 20 bucks the way they set up the price tag .
I thought at least at least put forward the question Is she gonna do it ? We know she knows how yeah ? So yeah , I thought it was cool if they kind of at least made us ask that question .
So yeah , no , that that's for sure . But also let's one thing I want to Point out is she's kind of talking to the associate at the store and she's like , damn , you gonna knock him dead , sweetie . And she says yeah , he's already , he's already dead . So , like you know .
But he's like she kind of glances at him to see if he's looking when she looks at the price tag , so you know , but he seems like a perfectly nice oh yeah , you know supportive guy .
Well , he's not like he's not a creep or anything , but she's like they put it in your , in your , in your mind like , oh , she might be considering there's a temptation that she in that she doesn't have 20 bucks to buy this thing . Maybe she'll walk out right .
I so boss this .
You know to be as the woman in the group , but no , but really there's something about the way she's like tugging at it and I , when I was watching it , I thought that and I feel like there's like a young Like as a girl is kind of like oh , this is not exactly how this fit me three months ago , or would have fit me three months , like as things are
changing . I got this , so is that an element of what they're doing here , or am I like Projecting something of like ? I saw it one place and I'm putting it in the wrong place ?
No , no , no . So I think what it's actually a little bit closer to is Not being entirely sure of the dress that you , the dress wearing you , rather than you wearing the dress is what this is . I think mostly like there is especially .
Unfortunately not unfortunately , but as we get older Especially because women getting older is not generally appreciated in society you become more comfortable with knowing exactly when the hemline should hit , and if you're gonna have the hem here , then you're gonna have a full-length sleeve , or you're gonna have a higher neckline , or you're gonna be able to figure out
the exact comfort spot where you were showing as much skin as you want to be Without feeling uncomfortable about being exposed . And so I think that this dress , even though she looks great in it and even though she likes it , it is slightly too exposed for her and she doesn't know how to adjust for that so because .
Yeah , and because she has limited options , she can't say like , oh well , can we find some black slacks to go underneath this or something like , right , yeah , yeah , she can't access her eyes .
She's like , oh , I'll just put a shawl over the open shoulders . No , or whatever I think she'll have anything like that . Right , it's , it's . It's funny , that's right . She cuz , she's kind of pulling up and down at the same time .
She's trying to like , like you know , extend the material in a way that will make it more suitable , but it just kind of is what it is very form-fitting sock kind of tube , tube dress , and there's not a whole lot you can do with that . But yeah , the , the associates .
She says he's dead already and the guy says you're into some weird shit little , which I thought that was good . We cut to Teddy and Carl hotcakes , free hotcakes . The , the lady , the waitress , comes up and she says free hotcakes and two tap waters .
Let me know if you big spenders would like some saltines or ketchup packets packers made me laugh out loud , but she is so over this shit and you know if you work oh , yeah , yeah , yeah . These guys like more of these guys . That's how it was with , like , early bird special people when I was like oh , here comes the . You know .
You know , like , can I get you something to drink ? And you're like please let me get you something to drink . Even if you got soda , my tip goes up by one dollar or what you know I mean like we'll just have water .
Some the early birds and lemon and sugar , because I'm gonna sit here and make lemonade in front of you and Only pay zero .
I get , I gotta get these , because you're like it's a three , this is three bucks over for the next , like as long you know , and they'll sit there and chat it up . It's okay , it's just , it's there's a , there's an equation there in the mind of a way . I'm always very mindful of that . I'm like you got to get them in and get them out .
Guys like finish your food . These people need to make money , um , but I'm also notoriously like generous tipper , because I went through that and I know , know what it looks like on the other side . This is no way to treat the birthday boys here . What do you want me to sing happy birthday ? Or something that depends ? What's 15% of nothing , wow , wow .
What's 15% of nothing to win ? That's what Carl says , to which Teddy says oh God , I love this so much , boss . What is ? What does Teddy say ?
15% . Who are we ? Bill greats and I did not miss be ill they do , they do but I like . I like that he says what's 15% of nothing ? And the objection is 15% of nothing is too high .
Yeah yeah , 15% right , what are you ? Yeah , big spend over here .
I mean what ? And the waitress goes cheat bastards , free odd cakes , free motherfucking hot cake . They're yelling motherfucking in the in the diner and everybody is like Horrif . Everybody hears this , you know . I guarantee you this is the only thing we get today . You think that cheap piece of shit is gonna get us a present or something ?
This again , yeah , this again . What's the last time you bought anything for us ? Okay , listen , he's not the best gift giver . I get that , but who pays for that roof over your head ? You don't grateful sack of shit . This is very loud , yeah we got a victim twice last year because he did not Not once , but twice because he did not that .
So it's interesting because , as dumb as they are , I think we could all agree there's a clear eyed miss . Like that Not Teddy , I'm missing . That Carl is is like Open your eyes , mad right , like he's like and that's part of what's funny here , because I'm with him where it's like why are you revering this man ?
Like I understand he's your father , but like the fact that your big fallback line was who puts the roof over your head , only to find out that twice in a year you were evicted , just I don't know something . Yeah , again , you could have just made them saying idiotic things , but this isn't purely saying idiotic things .
There's a real conversation about real things .
Yes . But here's the thing , and and and maybe I've done a bad job of saying this they're very similar . They look similar , they dress similar , similarly , they , they , they sort of present as very Like creatures . But Carl is a goddamn revolutionary and I'm with him . I'm like , yes , carl , keep pushing .
I love that he's called challenging the status quo , and he's like , because , like and I love the thing that broke it for him is like , like this is my fucking birthday , like I should have something on . You know , he's not even against anything . I guarantee this is as good as it's gonna get you know , and he's not wrong .
He's not wrong . And it's like , basically , on the way to get the battery , I now have a shiner from a broken lamp about . I'm gonna stop for free Hotcakes , like this is gonna . This is the apex of my day . And if he knew we were stopping , I'd probably catch a second like lamp , like that's how bad it is , like it's not .
Bobby would be like , oh yeah , good , you know it's your birthday , yeah , great . Like he'd be . Like what are you wasting fucking time for ? I told you to go get a new battery .
Yeah , what you figure out a way to make this , make this a crime against against the Bobby Law . And when he talked about catching a beating , which is like a colloquialism people use , like they really do , that's what they really would catch a beat .
Oh yeah , no it sounds like , yeah , he roughed him up pretty good . I mean , we saw what he did with Wayne we'd met two minutes before for having his hands all over his daughter , which was like what are you talking about ?
Which he did , yeah , yeah .
And so there's a small part of me that wonders if , because Dell decided to take off , decided , hey , fuck dad and dad's bullshit , I'm fucking leaving . But Carl is now thinking I get to if she gets to leave , I get to leave If this is an option , and so there is .
I didn't think of that as an incident . That's pretty smart .
Well , so what I actually think is that because they had to go after her , she gave him the space to see what was really going on like physically being away from the house Was that he could like see it now that we're outside ? This isn't how we have to do things . Dad has to buy us things on our birthday . That's how it goes .
There's a whole world out here where people get things for their birthdays , and he had us in that house or those houses Right Now . That's great , that makes sense .
So they're sitting here driving the waitress crazy , being loud and swearing and and horrifying every customer and they say , holy shit , and what's the holy shit moment about , boss ?
They got beers , flappy's got , beers , flappy's got beers .
And then what is what does Carl say ? All right , boss you're going to be , you're going to be Teddy , and and coach You're going to be Carl .
and Carl starts with hey hey , menu lady which I was like menu lady beers here . I hung my head , but be is delivered here .
Domestic only Jesus . I mean because everybody knows the domestic that they would be aware of served in this diner are going to be nothing but the highest quality , I mean seriously , they don't know what that means .
They have no idea what that means . They say domestic . He's reading the menu . Oh my God , it's this . Domestic only Yikes , yikes .
Because that's because that's what you can get for free on your birthday . So of course that's what we want . It's yeah . But when he said but when he yelled men , when he yelled menu lady , I hung my head , even laugh , I hung my head , oh my God , yeah , they don't know anything outside their little bubble .
We cut to Dell , hustling , hustling out of the , out of the thrift shop . And what's happening here , boss ? Why is she zipping out ?
We're not entirely sure . We know that she's coming out of the dressing room and that the clerk she was speaking with before says hello , miss , what about the little black dress ? And then he pulls it out of the pile of clothes that were left in the dressing room .
So the implication for a second was she had taken it and he was calling her on it and actually he was like you looked fabulous on that dress , you need to buy it Like he will love it , whatever the state is or whatever .
Yeah , they zipped when we thought they were going to zag . She wasn't zipping out because she had it and was trying to get out . She was like trying to will herself away from doing what she naturally would have normally done .
And I think also there's a little touch of embarrassment . When you go into a store and don't buy anything you can be . Once you're a grownup and you have money , you can go and be like I don't like any of this shit , I'm not going to pay for it .
But she was hustling away because she was in their store and couldn't buy anything and so now she needs to flee the embarrassment .
Right , I don't have $20 . It's not , I'm choosing not to have that dress . I don't have $20 .
So even now , boss , you'll say like on my way out , when I don't buy anything , even when I do buy something , but on my way out if I don't buy anything , I make sure to say thank you to the people when I go oh thanks , thanks a lot , and I walk out , even if I don't buy anything .
They try to be polite and be like , okay , well , at least don't be polite , the thing you'll get from me , you're going to get my money today , but I'll just say thanks , thanks for helping me browse .
I always try to be polite , especially at smaller stores .
I think the last time that I actually walked out of a store without buying anything , though , might have been when I was shopping at a CVS , which has since closed down , but I was in the CVS , I had my little basket and I was putting it on my shit later that I was trying to buy and I turned around and I saw a mouse run across the aisle , like in the
store , and these things happen . But I fucking hate mice and rats so bad I can't stand them . And so I just put the basket in the middle of the aisle and I immediately left Like I couldn't . I couldn't deal .
I just put it down right where it was and then I was gone , but that's maybe the last time I remember leaving Just sort of a sacrifice to the mice on the floor . I couldn't even carry it up to a place where I needed to exit immediately .
Oh my God , I didn't know you had this phobia .
It's not , it's sort of a phobia , but it's more like it's just so gross , like I don't I get worried it might touch me . What if it touches me ? Like that's my skin ? That's where I keep myself , my entire body is inside there and it touches my skin .
It's funny because I distinguish , you know , in a vast way between mice and rats . Mice are really cute , they're adorable , like they look cute , but rats man , oh my God , no , I do not like , I don't know , like a rat .
There's actually it depends on the footwear , but a rat is not the worst thing because they are big enough that I could kick them Like what I , what I genuinely really hate . I don't mind tiny little bugs because you just smash them like a little nap , even with just your finger , Like it's , it's fine and bigger animals you could kick at .
But if it's anything in between , where , like if you accidentally stepped on it and you might smush it , but it would be gross in a way that I couldn't handle that's where I have a problem with them .
There's such a , there's such a . I want to talk about it so badly , no , no , that the book that I premiered that I previewed , Dungeon Carler Carl , has a whole thing where this is the AI of the system forces him to squish things with his feet . Oh , and it and it gives him .
It gives him rewards for doing it and he hates doing it , but , like you know , he's like I can survive more of it . It's so gross , the whole thing is so gross , it should be like Super .
Mario Brothers , where you jump on the mushroom and then it disappears and then that's it , that's what , that's how life should be , but instead you accidentally smash like a water bug or whatever , and then it's gross . Guts are all over the place , yeah .
Yes , yeah , well , I love the performance . I want to call out the performance by the associate here to he played . It's Alexander Nunez playing Kenny . He just I just really loved what he remember we talked about . There's no small small parts on the small actors . He chases after and he says you know what about the dress ? It looked fabu on you .
I think I'm going to wear my own clothes to the funeral . Dell says funeral , you're going to wear this sexiest thing to your funeral . She says it's black , ain't it ? Yeah , true , I mean , I don't know . My uncle's funeral . My auntie propped him up like he was playing poker . Different strokes Kenny , in here to judge .
I love . The third person was like , perfectly placed there , like I was like , oh so he's kind of like because they're in Fayetteville , north Carolina , and this guy like he , he , he's fat and I don't I don't use this , this word he uses the word . I don't mind using it in any way , except like truly that quality .
He's probably as fabulous as this space gets Right , like if he went to New York , like he's whatever , but like in Fayetteville , north Carolina he's . You know , he's the crazy one who wears that pattern shirt , and so the fact that he's like Kenny in here to judge like he's got his old style going on , you know , he's got like a whole lexicon .
It's like his like Kenny isms , I don't know . It captured a lot for me that that was the way he phrased it . So I've seen pictures of funerals like that and they're at once creepy and also kind of funny and cool that you would be like so and so loved hanging out so much that the only way to say goodbye is sitting this guy up like he's playing poker .
Oh , okay , I guess .
Oh my God , the best eulogy . Yeah , have you seen a hacks boss ? I think you've seen hacks , right , I watched the first season and I didn't follow up . Okay , I think you saw it . Then there was a great scene where she gives a eulogy . Oh God , it's so good . I want to play it for everybody right now .
Maybe we'll just like do a deep dive in this one scene , but it's so good . But you know , we talk about Derek and the taste of Athens , these ancillary characters where they give you a feeling about , you get a sense of who they are . Alexander Nunez , who plays Kenny here the writing is so good and he kills it . He just says my condolences , family .
She says I actually don't know the guy or his wife . I just I can't stop thinking about it Like I got to be there or something I don't know . But he presents as a safe place . He is Kenny's not here to judge , that's right . That's right . He's making polite conversation , but he's likable , I like him Well .
And she says like I got to be there or something I don't know . And then what is his response here ? I really love this coach . What does he say to that line ?
He says , well , it's better than not caring at all . It's funny to say how much you love that line , because in real time I was like nice , yeah , yeah , it's great .
Because that's like a , that's a person with a perspective . It's not this ancillary plot bot when you're like , okay , it's NPC that you got to get by , he's got a whole worldview Right , and that's a that as we go through the road of life , you absorb the weirdest , strangest things from the weirdest strangest places .
Like that become part of your outlook , and it could be just Kenny in the thrift store saying there's better than not caring at all . That could be a moment that that contributes to the way you view human beings . She says well , so I guess it doesn't matter what I wear , thanks , though . He says hey , just take it , it's on me .
She says you don't have to do that . Oh , chad , I steal from here all the time . I love that . And then we cut . We don't see if she takes it or not . And then we cut yeah , yeah , it's a beautiful , beautiful moment and we're going to . We'll probably we'll , we'll , we'll , we'll have a little more , but we'll stop there .
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That was the point of that . Yeah , yeah , I didn't , I didn't . Yeah , good , good job guys , way to go , we'll see you next time . Thanks , everybody .