Wayne | S1 Ep3 "Chapter Three: The Goddamned Beacon of Truth"

Welcome to our Ted Lasso talk , the Tedcast . Welcome all Greyhound fans , welcome all you sinners from the dog track and all the AFC Richmond fans around the world . It's the Lasso way around these parts with Coach , coach and Boss , without further ado , coach Castleton .

Okay , welcome back everyone . Today we're discussing Wayne , season one . There is only one season of Wayne . Sadly to crime against humanity , this is episode three , the goddamn beacon of truth . Hi , every host , coach Castleton with me . As always , coach Bishop , I'm trying not to come across like a broken record player . Oh , that's I , like that ?

Yes , that's a good one .

That's you . Do you think of that last night or today , or when did that happen ?

Just literally , as you were saying my name , and jumped into my head .

That is a good one , and with us is our boss , emily Chambers .

I was gonna say that I like Dell's advice on why Makes a lot of sense . You pick something you know well and then you fabricate the little bits . No sense in going overboard .

Yeah , we're going to talk about that because we have we have a modern day Wayne and Dell on this podcast when it comes to our perspectives online , and you know what I mean . And the fact that he got sullied a little bit it was gave me , gave me pause . So we began this episode in Philadelphia , pennsylvania . We get the , the smash screen .

Mm , hmm , yeah , yeah , I'd say that's not a sub optimal .

Every time I'm on the highway and it starts pouring and I see like you go under bridges and , like Mike , motorcycles have stopped ever . See that they stop under the bridge and wait out the storm . And I was like they must be way more Zen than I , because I would drive with my ADHD and God damn it Like every second would feel like an eternity .

Yeah , yeah , Well , maybe I can go . I mean , it's not raining that hard . I killed myself in like a family of five or just Jesus Orlando .

Have you ever gone fast in the rain , boss ? Has it ? Have you ever been uncovered , let's say , a convertible or a boat going fast during a rainstorm , as either of you had that ? That , because I have , and it's a thing , and I can tell you what happens .

I don't think so , so I'm assuming that means no . But yeah , what we have to me .

We're on our . We're on a , I live on a lake . We're on another basin in the lake . In a quick storm popped up out of nowhere and I was a kid Because we didn't have internet or anything like that Just we had not looked up , and I was my older brother and we didn't look up in time and it didn't see storm clouds rolling in , and so he just pinned it .

I was gonna say it looked like Christmas lights , like somebody was like hey , we ought to spruce up this place with some random strings of Christmas lights at whatever time of year this happens to be .

Yeah , they sort of the outdoor . Why is this the topic that we're going on specifically ? But I did like it . I prefer colored lights to white lights on Christmas trees , so anytime that you have strings of lights with colors , unlike that rainbow , that's better .

We like that . This is a big point of conflict here in my family because a lot of people will go especially here it's , you know , much more upper crusty to have just the white ones . And I was like , let's get the really big ones , like the golf ball sized ones where the paint is chipping off the bulb .

So are you gonna do it , or aren't you ? And he seems very hesitant .

Yeah , what's he do ? Do you know , what ? Do you know at this point , what he's trying to do ? I mean , is he trying to run through the rain ? What is he ?

I just thought it was you know , go rent the room At about this age . There was a motel that I had to go rent room .

I didn't have to .

I was happy to at the time , but go rent rooms in and it is . It is a little weird like you kind of in your heart know that , they know that you are , at least legally , a child and we're all just going to do this like real weird pretending thing that actually I have a right to be standing here renting a room by the hour .

So that's a glass frog phenomenon . I'll call that back . Where you think other people can see through you like a glass frog , Right ?

right right .

So yeah , so you're gonna do it or not ? He says I never talked to one before . She says well , she's not gonna bite you unless you ask .

And of course I thought of beard .

Yeah right , Did be paid to do it or did he get paid to do it to him ?

No , he no , no , no , he was paid to do the biting yeah yeah , yeah , wow , that's fucked up .

It makes sense , though , now that we know that he's a felon and that he stole a loaf of meth , which is cannon , and that he escaped from prison . Allah , jean Valjean .

Yeah , he might have been paid in ramen , who knows . We never asked .

Yeah , no , but he , he definitely did do the bite it you paid . Well , now we're gonna have to go back to control .

Do you see the control ? She's not being baited whatsoever at all .

She's like no , that's I'm good Like you're oh no , that that fight was a different podcast . We only did that one .

You're a warrior boss . I love it All right . Well , we get an insert and we see a , a lady of the evening standing next to a vending machine hat like a mostly empty vending machine . I'm like what a shit that is . That is some terrible vending machine maintenance .

I don't understand . I mean , listen , I'm not going to judge the younger generation , I just don't understand half of the videos on there . Sometimes they're the most brilliant , like wonderfully edited things you've ever seen , and then sometimes my nieces are like , oh , somebody went shopping and we're looking at what she bought . Oh , that's a video .

But that's a , that's that's . But see , that's been around for a while . That's not . That was okay . So haul videos and unboxing videos , I mean this is a .

This is where the first unboxing is normal .

Yeah , that's a thing that everybody but haul .

You cannot say unboxing is normal .

Those were 20 years old now . I mean it doesn't say well , let's see , we're in 2023 . No , but it's got to be 15 years old , yeah , like 2007 . Anyway

Hey , maybe the rain will stop .

I laughed out loud . I was like that was so biting . But like for her , you know , that's like a tube , that's nothing , right ?

But like we , I was like is that necessary ? Well , she gives it , she gives us that . She says she goes hey , maybe the rain will stop right , and then the thunder rumbles , and and then Wayne turns around , like maybe hopeful , and then she goes , no , not stopping , like give it what ? All of two seconds , oh god , she's like . That's like .

She says I'm too young , which I was like he fucked up the mission . Right , I thought it before she reacted , but I was like dude , what did you ask her ?

So now we get the , we get an insert of of the vending machine . The woman is putting money in the vending machine but her snack gets stuck , which is man ? That is a . Is there any more common vending machine trope than whatever ? You know , not not , you know the twisty little screw device .

Oh , it's Bell . It's still saying I think maybe my brother didn't quite explain it right which is an excellent like . Obviously she should have been the one to go talk to this lady in the first place because , like Wayne is just going to sort of saunter and not saunter , and what sort I'm looking for here ?

I think shuffle would even be looser than whatever he . He's like this because he's not stomping , because he's not heavy on his feet , but his arms are not swinging shoulders , don't move . He's like a stone golem . And yes , they have different skill sets . That's the thing . She can go door to door to strangers and sell cookies , right . But that's not his thing .

Well , I have many other people have . I love it . You said that because it hit me here and we've seen it , but it really hit me here that he's not so much a fan of human beings like having to interact with them , having to talk to them , like whenever he's forced to interact with people other than Dell , at this point it seems like not so great .

Yeah , absolutely right , the nurse's name was Gail and and yep , and I just I never know . Maybe they have identified it , but I'm always like I wonder why there's no name for like , why this isn't a common thing , like because I always tell the kids my kids listen . We have a thing about breaking the ice .

Honey , this one time this guy wanted to watch me pleasure myself with his prosthetic hand . Strange requests are kind of my thing . Strange requests cost , which I don't know . If this woman didn't , if she knew that Wayne was not going to be the one who would have the cash in this situation , or if she just knew that he absolutely was not in charge .

Yeah , that's interesting , huh .

Yeah , I didn't think about that , but I see what you're saying .

Yeah , so we don't know who . If she , if she figures out who the leader of this you know clown car is , or or if she's like , show me some greenbacks or else I'm not doing injection . I don't know , I don't know what it is here , but in any case , what is Dell ? What choice does Dell make here , boss ?

She pulls out all over money which might not have been the wisest decision . Like you , you this is going to Great America , back at the theme park , the Six Flags theme park near us . Like six grade class trips going to Great America . Like , make sure you hide your money and don't take it out in front of anybody and don't ever let them see it , it's all .

I heard all those things , yeah myself growing up , absolutely For sure and I , as it happened .

Well , we definitely get a shot of of this woman noticing , and then my , my overall thought was , in certain ways Dell is hardened , but in certain ways she's simultaneously sheltered . So you know what I mean . Like I don't think it occurred to her , like she was like I'm going to pay you to do a thing , so let me get my money so I can pay you Right .

Yeah Well , yes , for sure . But also , like you know , she , she brings out this big wad of you know whatever low , low dollar bills , ones and fives probably . And I think isn't this the money that Wayne got from Orlando for the Titty Mags , or oh no , or this might also be the rent money . Yeah , I think . The rent money from the guy .

It's tough . It's tough and is there a rate ? I mean this isn't like . You know , I get that , this is what we're saying . She gets strange requests but like , will you rent a room for me and my brother and quotes to you know what I mean . Like I can't imagine she's getting this request every Thursday . I mean it's , it's all very strange . So yeah .

And right , and her response is like we are . Because she's like , oh , she , you know , she had just said to the boy that she spoke to , which we , which we know is Wayne , you're too young , Okay , Okay . And then she comes back and she's like , yeah , well , we really need this . And she's like , you know , I know it's a stranger .

our one goddamn rule . And he responds come on , deborah , don't throw a hissy , which I liked because I like having a specific name for her .

Yeah , right , deborah , right , there's also . There's also this weird , this moment , right before he does that , before he's where he says whoa , whoa , whoa , before he gives the keys , like who's the lucky guy Like he wants , I'm like , oh , like , oh he is .

I mean , he just looks like oh well , god , anyway , this guy don't you feel like he's constantly trying to like , talk her into sex and she's like , absolutely not like , even even if he pays , like almost like that's exactly what I guess , coach .

that exactly the read where it's like every interaction with her to him he feels is flirting . You know , it's like , oh , like , literally just got chilled he's left . Anyway , christ , deborah , don't throw a hissy Show . Some respect for the guy's stocked you with the new towels . Macy's hotel collection , that's hotel within H . That was great , right .

People of all ages .

God like what a , what a horrible , horrible place for both of them . You know what would Ted do here . What would he ? What would he make of this situation ? Come on now , everybody , we're all on the same team here .

Yeah .

I mean it's . There is something about the fact that I don't have anything to say about it that only lends itself to what happens when you actually do these things really well . Yeah . And I feel like like there's almost nothing to dig into , because you're like , oh no , that is a very appropriate representation of scummy society . Yeah , you nailed it .

Yeah , it's right on the money . So we have Della and we cut to Della and Wayne they're waiting and she's . They're talking about what they're gonna what they're gonna do . She says I'm gonna blast the heat when we get in there , then shower , then hot shower , then HBO and coach . What does Wayne say here ?

I want to smell the soaps .

I want to smell the soaps and she looks at them and she goes you're weird man .

But I think it's great , the weird . Interestingly , because it's obviously on some level of judgment For me , on some level it played like as much an observation , like she's not , like you're weird , get away from me .

Well , it's interesting Because then you go , okay , wait a second , Is that his like she wants to ? You know , we talk about like love , languages and things like that , and this is like okay , this is how are they going to feel safety ? In this moment ?

Well , he doesn't have different smelling soaps at his house . Like his dad would have gotten an industrial sized pack of whatever the cheapest , probably unscented , yeah right . Yeah .

Simple green it would take you take the like the not simple green there's . There's this stuff called orange . Oh shit , what is it ? I used to have it when I worked in the factory . There was a couple things , a couple types of soap , that you put it on your hands . Oh , I can't believe , I don't remember . This Simple green is like a real hardcore pine saw .

But this stuff is , and you don't even put water at first you put that stuff on right on to like lift that stuff , and then it's like you can go through a normal .

Maybe after a couple of these you put this on it's like it's like a pudding consistency and you really rub it in and then it turns black and then you take a paper towel and you wipe this off , then you put another scoop , but it's really powerful . But it smells great actually . I literally like this .

But anyway , and this is called fast orange . Fast orange , yes , yes , fast orange Got it .

That's what it is , fast orange , and that's what it does . It's like a really actually does work and people buy it by like the industrial bucket full . So , yeah , wayne might want to smell a different kind of soap . They might want to know hey , am I really not in Kansas anymore ?

Says Brockton teen assaults family , kidnaps girl . Yeah , which is half true . He definitely did assault .

But kidnapping , not so much Fleas after violent assault . So yeah , so they have this little insert , and right away Del's like holy shit , we made the news , which is like a big deal . She's pleased by it though . Oh yeah , like we're coming up in the world man . Yeah , yeah . And Wayne's like are we gonna get found out as the manager , the corny ass manager ?

Weed black market DVDs . I'm also a notary , which again got a laugh out of me .

I thought that was funny too .

Yeah , I was like that's very good , but it really shows like she is just scuffling and a lot of this show is people just making it work , surviving and whatever circumstance they are presented with . And I just thought it was great that if there's a way to make money having sex with people being one of them , then yeah , I'll do that .

Like she's just she's just a non erotic thing , took off .

Yeah , yeah , you know what I mean .

I like that in this day and age there are black market DVDs like which feels like that feels like 1992 to me , or something like black market DVDs . You know , here's the thing about DVDs there was a whole generation , namely our generation coach , who stocked up on 300 million laser discs and DVDs and once upon a time was VHS tapes .

I mean , listen , I'm not even upset that you called me a degenerate scumbag . I am more upset that a number of streaming networks pretended that writers could not possibly get residuals on streams because there's no way of counting them or tracking them down .

It's a real fuzzy , real fuzzy dangerous line , in my opinion , their boss . But I get it . I understand where you're coming . I understand the . I really do get it . I remember Jack Valenti who used to run the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Science . You remember him coached . Did he ever go to USC ? While you were there he made the rounds .

No , I get it , but they don't share . So that's part of what makes a lot of people feel like , you know , screw them .

See , my only issue is I had maybe still have some DVD somewhere around here probably a couple copies of the prestige , maybe but after I updated my newest laptop , I no longer have an actual DVD or CD player . Right , I have them .

I just can't do anything with them . Yeah , yeah , I had to do a whole . Yeah , I had to buy this converter thing . It was kind of it was . It was more than a little bit embarrassing , like how old am I ? I feel like I'm that fucking old Kids have an Xbox or a .

PS5 or PS5 , you know , depends on you , you can always do that , yeah . But , I know what you're saying I got , I've been meaning to do that . We have all these different types of old tapes . I'm like , oh , that's going to deteriorate if I don't you know , save it and digitize it .

So it's on the list , very much it's on the list , coach .

So the lady says , all right , don't do . Don't do anything I wouldn't do , which is exactly what she would say at that moment . And in they go to the room for the first time and what do they see there , boss , one bed , One bed .

It's interesting , coach , that you say that , because this show does a great job of not letting us get too far out ahead , Like we've mentioned a few ways that happens . It's getting out of a scene like just a razor pass where it needs to happen , Like right .

Yeah , Well , a little . Yes , that's for sure . And here's the thing . This is what happens with after Ted Lasso season one . When you have like a nearly flawless masterpiece , Then you come back and people like boss and bastards like me will go away to second . This isn't like up to the same standard .

The goddamn beacon of truth .

Yep , and now we cut back to Brock Brockton mass . We are in the school , high school , and it's a series of people sort of going through what a menace Wayne is . I once saw a hammer , a number two pencil , into a dude's hand . He burned his dad alive . He wants a to frog in class , but not like a biology class .

Oh sorry . Yeah , good coach , no , it's good . I liked , by the way , the he burned his dad alive Because it reminds you that gossip is gossip . Yeah Right , but you know the fuck you're talking about . Basically , I happen to know that story and some of this shit may have happened this way .

It's so crazy . I remember I was outside and in college I remember I was talking to my girlfriend at the time she was really mad at me . I don't know what I did . I don't know what I did . I'm sure it was very smart , but she was sitting on the back of a . We were outside this big part is a fraternity house .

Easter . So it's sort of like that , the way that it spreads like wildfire Soft morning of high school during homecoming week on Thursday night . She's fine now , but a friend of mine , we weren't like super close but Laura Fisher got into a car accident like late Thursday night , possibly early Thursday morning , and it was pretty bad . She was a soccer player .

Why are you just , yeah , no , casual about that ? It's horrifying , you know she kind of like ended her whole soccer no no , she like absolutely .

Because we had early Friday morning swim practice . I was on the swim team and usually you practice after school , but with the homecoming game we practice early Friday mornings , and so we all got to practice at like 5am and the rumor was that she had died .

This is how it goes , and yeah , and word travels fast , and so , yes , they're getting .

I mean , it kind of looks old-timey , it looks like a high school I would have gone to Well that's because right .

Yeah , that's probably because that's where . Yeah , that's like the kids in Brockwood , but it is . What is the diagram ? Directly to the two Jay and Eddie's left elbow .

Oh , you mean that it's a sex ed class ?

There's like a vagina right there , and then there's penises and vas deferens over to his right arm and then you have like various diagram . I think it's just like it's a funny , funny choice to put like okay , like for high school students , so they're trying to ascertain about , they're just doing their due diligence about Wayne . There's this go ahead , boss .

I actually we skipped over . But the very first line there's just a kid sitting and he says every school has that kid , right , that kid nobody talks to .

Right , right , right , that would be Wayne's character .

So , like this kid is a little bit . I don't want to call a kid a douchebag , but there's something a little bit douche-y about the way that he would present that . That like that sort of overly slick reduction of a person's character .

Interesting , I get you Okay . Okay , I didn't . I sort of just took it as like we're getting the information out , but I see what you're saying . That makes sense , Especially because some of the others are as specific as they are .

How would you guys , how would you guys describe the next student size-wise ? How does he present ?

That's a . That's a big boy . If you told me play tackle for the football team , I'd be like yeah .

Yeah , college tackle that , other guy's like Iowa State tackle . That's a big , he's got the net going on .

He's , he's a big dude .

There's a big dude right and they say tell me about the night you had your incident with Wayne young man , and and he does not talk . And they say I told you he's not going to talk . I haven't heard him speak a word since . Now what's good about this is I was like first of all , it establishes Wayne doesn't punch down .

You know , yeah , yeah , no , I I where I was going to go to those . I love and I've mentioned this before I love writing that gets you to fill it in , oh , yeah .

And so .

I don't know what the incident was and I don't know what sparked the incident , but I know some shit went down and because I've met Wayne before , oh my God , like that's another way to add to the legend . Right , like you know the Godfather , you know the story of either your either your signature .

Right , and then when you write you've mentioned this several times when you write for a broad group of people , you say like , oh , you know it's . You try to think what's the craziest thing I can think of ?

Well , this is specifically why Cthulhu was not described until well after the madness of man had been established . Like you , let the person fill in what the monster looks like , and then you don't have to be as scary .

Yeah , no , it's really yeah , exactly right , we get to the next , next student . You know , is Wayne going to hear what I say ? And no way is never going to see this . I promise we're not recording . You know what that maniac will do to me if he does . Do you remember what happened to Joyce Ceciliano ? Who's Joyce Ceciliano Exactly ? Just a .

I was like they just , they , just like . We're like , let's get some jokes in here , Like straight up jokes . So I like that .

Now let's we make the police too , too warm and fuzzy and too relatable . They say we're not recording . Starship Gellar says that . And then you have officer Jay Gennady holding his phone up and recording , Like doing it right there , Like a fucking lie , and he says what's that ? And an officer Gennady says what a coach .

Oh , this is from my Instagram .

To which the kid is like oh fuck , this Wayne is the best guy . Hard to gold , wouldn't hurt to fly , you can tell us the truth . He says yeah , this is the truth . Hey , there , wayne , brother . Okay , jesus Christ , get the hell out of there . Tom Cole says and so now we get the new . The final student here is who , coach ? Who this character's name ?

Rhymes with Orlando . That's what we get Orlando coming back in . So so we know he's got some stories to share , but things , things , things don't get off on a great foot .

No , because he's a . He's a Wheeler dealer . We have a few questions . They ain't mine . What's that ? Was that someone's made me sell it ? But if you guys want the magazines , oh , and the money , I have it . Like he's like wait , what the hell was I doing ? Your friend to ? Yeah , exactly .

Just stop talking , orlando .

Samurai Swords was already in my locker when I got it . I'm going to let you just let you talk first , orlando . We're here to ask you about Wayne McCullough . Oh , did , did Wayne do that to your eye ? What ? No , this .

And what does he say , coach ? The reason I have this is because Wayne isn't here . Right , keep going . Which was I ? Yeah , anyway , in terms of his story , I thought that was great . I mean , we don't go to the movies together or anything , but Wayne is my boy .

Right , well , yes , and this is like someone who seems to know him . You know that he burned down his house with his dad inside an assault on a man , and his boys bit his nose off a kid in the episode . I did not .

Listen , this school is full of some messed up kids and bullies and shit . Honestly , it's a dangerous place for all of us . We got metal detectors on doors that don't work . Kids are dropping out of school because they're scared to be here . Wayne's been dealt a band hand , so you're going to have to find somebody else to squeal on them .

Yeah , Can I bounce ? And they say yeah , you can bounce .

There's and I won't take us too far off script here , but there's something about when kids have to police themselves , Like when a situation is out of hand and quickly .

Jesus , and so , anyway , I tell the story on Facebook and this guy commences .

I didn't even finish reading his message because I was like I'm going to have to rip him apart , but he like , essentially shame tried to shame me that we had threatened these guys and I thought like , wow , like here we were in the you know , truly outnumbered , having to basically protect these little kids because the school , absolutely positively , was not to the

It's like . It's like New Jack City up in here , that's exactly the first .

What the fuck .

You're like they were like you know this , this should have me . And you're like uh-huh , and then you're like okay , who did it ? Like yeah , we got . It took eight seconds , we're done Put names down .

Put them on the like we're looking for you , just so you know . It's like a group of us and we talk about it openly because we're like , fuck that , we ran the place .

Yeah . You know , yeah , no , it's true , human beings do make societal structures inside of societal structures and so , and there is something called social control when the law doesn't work . This is why Coach Castleton is a fan of hockey , because that's the old sport where they police themselves .

But yeah , I'll toss it real quick . Like kids for the elementary school , they were shared campus with this middle school . Anyway , there was a girl who her hands were shaped differently , as the best I can describe it .

Oh , my gosh and I was like shut up .

You understand that that's not great . I was so proud of him .

I told him to . I was like that's what I'm talking about , right there , absolutely Like I backed him up a hundred percent . I was like that's my boy , good for you . I still remember . I still remember like him getting in the car and me being like that's my boy . I just heard about it .

So that's fucking amazing . That's really cool . That all makes up for how much your first story was horrific . So proud of Alex too .

Yeah .

No , but the thing about that . There's a this was a post that was going around Twitter for a while , I guess , and obviously it didn't work there .

You punch them Every time , 100% .

Every fucking time you punch Nazis .

And I and I not that you weren't , not that you didn't have this part , but I want to stress it again the group of us who said absolutely the fuck not and put up that sign was a mixed group of , so they brought it to us , but the group of us who were like , no , that's not how this place is going to run , was white and black , and we were just like

And no , yeah , no , I'm glad some white kids fixed it , that's good .

Yeah , that's what I'm hearing about this . That's really good .

I think it's really nice that those white kids in your group they really sorted it all out . I kind of love those white kids at the

So this is this is the Seth Meyers parody version of all of the white and black movies where it's like the extraordinary black person who invented rocket science and the white guy that stood up for her Like , yeah , no , you're not . This movie should not be about you .

That's great . So after Orlando bounces because it's open season on Orlando's out there , I thought that was a good line . It was really good . The cops just kind of like after that . Well , the part that boss read was a little speech and he's like this is what it is People are dropping out of school , they're afraid to come to school .

Yes , I think , if you rate , yeah .

And I'm like that's my whole point , Like everybody's really good at something , Like I don't care who they are , you know they're really . It could just be I can mow , you know , a line of straight lines and I , and then it makes them feel good , Like whatever it is . But everybody's got skills and they just .

He , says I've got limited resources , but I do everything in my power to protect my students .

I know , I mean it's not , it's a joke and it's not a joke . But I did laugh because I understood , excuse me , I understood everybody in this scene . I was like , if you're this , if you're this principal , you're like , give me a break , man . Do you know what I'm dealing with ? On an average day , I couldn't even eat my my banana yesterday .

So there we are I totally , and high school is is , you know , often the worst part of anybody's life . Like , like so many kids want to just flee high school . Look at this one shot I freeze framed here you get . You'll get like girls into the tiny little girls like this where girls got braces .

I think it's a branding issue . We should name them post birth embryos . Yeah , Then they'd be like the most important shit ever . Yeah , right , post birth oh , it's a branding issue .

Something about fetuses as in fetuses , that are men and therefore we must care about them .

That is true , yeah , no , that's good . Yeah , we don't care about men enough . That's true , boss . What about the men ? Now we have the big teddy bear guy that Wayne kicked his butt or something and made him silent . They show him walking through a door . And what does he do here , coach ?

He's bumping people like very intentionally and very menacingly . Yeah , like you get the sense that he bumps people all the time and they never say a mumbling word , because no , because the guy is a fucking ocean unto himself .

Yeah , he is very big , he's like four of a regular kid and you get the sense he bumped the wrong motherfucker at one point .

Oh , you bumped Wayne . Yeah , we could have told you that .

It's so funny . One thing I'll say this is growing up in it's not this era , but an era where you go to schools like this or you're in places like this and it's funny . It was never those big fucking giant monsters that you had to worry about . Those guys tended to not have to prove themselves to anyone . You know what I mean .

Yeah , I want no parts of this , if they have cigarettes rolled up in their sleeve .

They don't really do that anymore , but they used to . You just go . Okay , that's like a badge that might as well be a sheriff's star . You have leveled up to the point where you could hurt me easily . Yeah , Pure feet , yeah .

The guy on the wrestling team who would always start shit , always all the time . Absolutely no reason the 103 pounder , like the smallest guy on the team , would start talking shit for absolutely no reason . That is great , and the heavyweight was like I will do what we need to do , I guess . But what the fuck ? Why are you picking this fight with them now ?

Yeah , it's a little guy . It is . It's the little pugs and it's the wiry guys . Those are two that I just try to steer clear of . So now we come back to . We've seen this little scene outside and now we have a little bit more insight Tommy Cole is talking about yeah , I think his dad got it on the job .

They think his dad got it on the job . The cancer yeah , the Sergeant had a run with cancer himself . No , it's okay , it turns out it was not cancer . I mean it almost was . It's like I had it , at least for a few hours , like for fuck's sake .

You didn't have it for a few hours .

Yeah , yeah , you had a cancer scare , and a cancer scare is terrifying , but you did not have cancer for a few hours .

It's not how that works . I have to tell you guys I think I tell you this that on 9-11 , juliana was in a plane in the air , having just departed from New York .

Are you fucking serious , jesus Christ ?

Oh , that's horrifying , isn't that crazy ?

That's , and not that we need to get into all this , but actually I was in college , my older sister , we went to the same school , so we were there for a couple of years and I had just moved into the dorm with one of my closest friends . Now we had cable . They're cable at my sister's apartment hadn't been set up yet .

And I'm like oh okay , I love how you slept through 9-11 .

What a what a Just just the beginning part . I caught the end , Just the beginning .

No , I totally , I caught up . I mean I caught up , oh my God .

But then I like there was a class that I had a test in or something already and I was like I think I have to go to class . So I went to class to take this fucking test and the professor hadn't heard about it because he'd been fast as a morning . So like we walked in and I'm like wait . So I think we're at war .

Yeah .

Yeah . And so we say Wayne's going to be okay . And now you got a sweet spot for the boy because you know Tom Cole is showing some real emotions looking at his phone and they're trying to like they're trying to , you know , make him feel better , because he clearly is getting emotional . He says it ain't Wayne . There was a death in my family .

They were a match Quickly . I had and boss . You've now heard about this some and and and listeners . I grew up with a dog phobia which , because I was being a guy , I would just say I hate dogs , but mostly I was frightened to my very core of any dog . So it was always amazing to me when people would be like oh , my dog , blah , blah , blah .

Yeah , no , that's , that's a big deal and and he , you know he lists off the four dogs . They're all start with a um , jay does not get it . Jay officer , jay is like I don't get pets . All these people in my neighborhood with these green bags standing around waiting for something to shit .

That was funny . That is not incorrect , right .

I think there may be something in my water . I keep changing the dog food over and over . What are you talking about ? Sergeant Gellar says you know , as my fourth dog to die in two years , august Artemis , I'm an AS apricot . Oh , so you're one of those people named the dogs all the same letter . That's what you got out of this story , wait wait .

Okay , that is all very funny , but if we could pause for a moment ? Yeah , jay is also spinning a uterus .

Yes .

And I don't think like . It's like , like , almost like a uh , what was the name of that game with red hand , red twister and , um , oh yeah , yeah , it's almost that vibe and I'm like that's it , that's a uterus . I don't know what's going on with you right now , but you're not processing that .

And what they do is they spin it . I didn't think that's by mistake . Yeah , like , like , as if it's not male enough . What they're going to do is spin the uterus . Please spin the uterus .

Right , right . Like yeah , maybe I'll use the uterus as a gun , like that .

Right , right .

Right .

You know wait . But just to be clear , he has absolutely no idea what it is that he's spinning .

Oh , this is zero chance , zero chance , yeah yeah .

I don't even know if he picked up on the fact that this is supposed to be about sexual education . Like he , just absolutely nothing .

It's been .

Yeah , okay , good , no , if you said you're spinning a uterus , he'd say a what ? Yeah ? Yeah , officer , j has never found a woman's clitoris ever Literous Well listen .

I don't want to . I don't want to make any assumptions there are . I couldn't explain the physics behind hitting a tennis ball , nor could I hit a tennis ball , but I believe that somebody who doesn't understand the physics could in fact , do it extremely well .

We got a little insight into these characters . So we thought you know you guys were like , oh , officer Giller's a little bit . We thought he was like a little crazy .

Maybe you're just a bad pet owner . What , what , what and the turn , the turn from Sarge is sort of you know , like , really , like , really Are you not getting what we're doing here ? But yeah , maybe you're just a bad pet owner .

Now we cut to , we're in the motel . We see Wayne sleeping on the floor , right , we got a one shot of him , and then we have this scrolling shot straight up the body of a 15 year old in a bikini , which I'm like , oh , I don't know what this is , I'm supposed to feel , but I just want to get this girl a sweatshirt .

Yeah , so yeah , she was very clear about that . That was one of the ways I really start to accept how old I was , that I was driving along and saw a young lady in an incredibly skimpy outfit and thought I know she cold . And as soon as I thought I know she cold , I was like , oh , that's so sad , it's over for you .

I think that's good , I don't think that's bad , I think that's really good . I think that's a thing , that is , that shows like you are . You are , you know you have overcome it's it , you just go . You're like someone else's , you feel , you know you go , you were you were being empathetic . You weren't thinking , oh , what's in it for me ?

You're like right right right , that's true , that is very true , but , yeah , definitely not what I would have thought when I was 17 .

I'll say that testosterone is a hell of a drug coach .

Come on , it's the first sunny day in life . Forever , I deserve a tan . I was like a gallon of milk .

I look like a gallon of milk . I deserve a tan and I was like you know what .

That's not a lot to ask for .

I'm like that's not like a let's win the Champions League or let's beat Manchester City , that is like I deserve a fucking tan . I deserve , especially living in New England , you get four days a year of warm enough weather to give you a tan , so I'm with her on this one . You saw the pictures in the paper . We're like wanted or whatever .

I love that framing of it because when she walks out I mean I'm thinking , if we're with Wayne , if you're going to swim in that bikini , I got to be honest , I want to be there Like if I'm Wayne . It was a fun piece to it too , and I couldn't tell how much of that she was aware of as she was saying it or not , or whatever .

Yeah , I mean , he even looks away while she's putting like suntan lotion on Like he is like , even mindful of his gawking at that point , he looks at her outside . She's like sort of got a towel wrapped around , it still doesn't look warm Warm . I got to be honest Like when did they ?

I love it this day . Yeah , she's like oh , it's a nice day yeah .

Yeah , no , this is . When was this ? It was right around the Super Bowl . When was that ?

Valentine's Day , this year February yeah .

Yeah , middle of February it got to 42 degrees and I was like time for t-shirts . Yeah , this is what we're doing now .

That's what happens in the Northern Hemisphere . Right you get you say like I know it's funny . And then if you moved to LA , like where Coach lives , you live in LA for a while your blood thins and you're like , and it's like 60 . Tonight it's going to get down to 68 . You're like ooh , bring that jacket .

Yeah , it's true . It's true . My friends from New York laugh at my ass and I'm like that's fine .

Well , and there's also like , unfortunately , because of a lot of body consciousness , la has an extraordinary number of very thin women . I have to imagine they just need to be wrapped in blankets and shawls at all times . That's funny , because they have no fat to keep them warm If it dips below 72 , they're all .

There's a lot of men and women , but also LA's climate is changing . It's not . It's funny , it's not what it used to be . There's like .

It's not how it used to be . It's a little fragile . Yeah , there's like shit .

that was when I was there last time . I was like , wait a second , what is happening ?

Like why yeah , no , no , no , we broke the earth . I think I'll do this .

Yeah , Like you , guys don't actually have air conditioners , especially if you're like the unit's really close . I was reading something about how one of the Santas I don't know bitches have so many Santas out there One of them like the building codes and none of Nobody has any central air because it was apparently not that hot .

Yeah , it's a thing . Yeah , Now people are like oh my God , please , I'm dying , fix it .

Oh , you poor bastards . You have no idea what you're yeah that's right .

We're prepared here in Chicago and Boston .

So here's a rant that I'm not going to do fully , but I do need to flag because I'm . Sports spreading , the schedules spreading . I hate it . There's such thing Like America is such a If some is good , more is better society , and I hate it . The World Series used to be called the October Classic that's how Reggie Jackson got the name Mr October .

I feel like somewhere in here there is one of those Hallmark Christmas stories where it's like what if we had Christmas every day ?

That's it , yeah .

I mean the way sports works . Now , if you're a fan of sports in general , it's like being on drugs all the time because you go sport , to sport , to sport and then every few years , you get a . The more you can incorporate , the better . So in my case , I do things that a lot of Americans don't do .

Why is Ted Lasso catch in shrapnel ?

I'm saying that we never got to talk with Spaniards . Ultimately , literally , I call them the Spaniards because we never heard them talk . So I can make up whatever I want . They could be Martians . We never heard them speak , sadly . So I feel badly for them because I'm like , oh , this show , this iconic show . They're like oh , I was on that .

I mean they're dishbacks who brought pink panty droppers Like that's all you need to know . We don't want to hear them say any more words , exactly , yeah , no , they're inconsequential .

But we fast forward to back to Brockton . We see Orlando walk in and he is looking for something . He opens up a toilet stall . And who is in the stall ? Boss ?

It's the principal In his defense . It's the faculty bathroom . Tom Cole's supposed to be in there . Nobody else is Right .

Yeah . And he's like what the Get out of here ? And I was like I'm sorry , Are you done using the bathroom ? No , I wasn't . And he's like looking down , my pants are up , I'm just sitting here and it's so funny , it's got just a cope . It's so funny how people cope at work .

Yeah , no , just having someplace where you can't sit .

But even just at home . Oh , I'm sorry , boss , go ahead . No , no , no , you go ahead . I was going to say even just at home , like when my kids were . You know , kids , kids . I sometimes just go like I'd be just leaning back against the like counter , like I wasn't in any way using the facilities .

Those are great things . Those are fantastic . That was just you sitting on the toilet thinking coach . I remember that .

Yeah , and I would say I just do like a rant about you know the price of Starbucks or Race in America , and I was like totally just like , this is where I get to think . So come on in , I'll tell you what I'm thinking about . Anyway .

So I'll say one I know a number of especially new moms . You know , once the kids are like three , five around there , when they're a little bit older , the bathrooms are where you can lock yourself in and they are theoretically not able to come follow you .

Right , it doesn't always work , but that's an idea , oh yeah , no , they'll be . They'll be like banging on the door , but at least you have a barrier .

Yes , it's not like they're dogs . When they're dogs , they have to come in the bathroom with you . When they're children , you could kind of be like you just stay out there . And also , just in case your daughter's teacher is still upset about it , when I was in grad school , when I went back a few years ago , I went to the library at my college .

That reminds me . Oh sorry .

No , just when you went to the same college . Amazing Me , and that girl .

Door knobs work differently from different sides . It's amazing what people , what people like , if they haven't stopped to think about it . Sometimes people just don't . You go , okay , how does this actually work If they stopped to think about it ? I don't know . I turn the key and then it goes on , but yeah .

I want to say it was Fat Albert . It could have been from something . I remember as a kid us repeating this joke , but that your mother's so dumb . She had a flight , she went and it said airport left , so she went back home .

Yes , holy shit . Yes , I do , I do enjoy a good . Your mother joke .

Yeah , that one stands out . The out of order door made me think of that level .

Yes .

What is happening ?

This is the faculty bathroom . Tommy Cole says how the hell did you get in here ? And Orlando goes yeah , I have a key . He holds up like a full janitor's level set of keys . Yeah , you're in the bathroom just breathing in this nasty air is what he says . Like I'm just sitting here . All this nasty air is so funny .

A picture of the , the twins , with bat , promising to kill Wayne .

Yeah , carl and Teddy Luchetti . They're going to go with , of course , bobby , their father . They're on . Whatever they don't say . It looks like Instagram kind of thing . It's like a knockoff Instagram , so they don't have to pay .

But I also like the like the , the , the ridiculous ways in which people use social media . Like Jays recording their interview with a minor and putting it on Instagram . These guys are promising to kill somebody on Instagram , Guys , you know people . Other people can see this . Right , right , is it worth the likes to confess to a murder ? Very , it's .

it had six likes but I was like , oh , that's so perfect . They're going with bats , coach . They're going to go with bats . Maybe they're baseball players heading the floor to kill that motherfucker Wayne . You know many times I tried to help that kid , how many times I thought this message I just gave to Wayne really hit home .

I love that . That got said .

Right Isn't that good it was really important .

That was funny .

That's what shows like this don't do . They don't do that beat , they don't the right , they just don't touch it yeah .

Yeah .

And everyone's like well , and then everybody who wants it ? Goes yeah , what the fuck Like you can't do that , and so you know he's just like . Basically , the concept is no matter what Orlando says , tommy Cole's out , no matter what he gleaned , although that was the one moment where he did get a little pause .

Well , you , I also found myself feeling for a principle cold , because he is fighting the good fight , like he shows up here every day and he deals with the kid whose teeth got knocked out , and and he deals with this other kid who decided to bring the magazines and he right , like he is actually trying as best he can to shepherd these kids through this part

Yeah , that was good .

You don't have a wife , no kids , no girlfriend , no dogs . Now Everyone knows , no offense , but you ain't got shit .

Hey , watch your language , I do have shit . I have a thing , mr no at all he establishes . By the way , it's like spring break in two days . I have a thing , mr no at all , an important thing actually . I do have shit , so glean that man . Orlando says what do you got ?

Says hey , north Carolina is on the way to Florida .

To which Tommy Cole gives him a frustrated look and he's like oh , we'll look at that . You know geography . Like I can't believe we did our job .

Right , like the one thing somebody learned around here . Screwed me .

Yeah , exactly yes .

Right , that's exactly right . Your buddy Wayne , in case you have a notice , you can take care of yourself . Me , on the other hand , can't take care of my dogs . Then they walk out , and there's this great moment where they , of course , right when they walk out , Of course of course there's another .

Yeah , coming out of the bathroom , not great .

You guys ever play Uker Card game Uker .

Yeah , we don't call it Uker , though . We call it something else , but yes , oh , all right . Well , no , there's different versions of it , but it's yeah . Yeah , I've put yeah .

So one of the rules and I don't know if this is universal or just the extremely militant woman who taught us the rules in college , but we used to play all the time like go to the bar and play cards all night and one of them is , if it goes around the table and nobody calls you , it could go around the table again and then you get to call whatever you

And now they need to call yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , fuck them , you have to call yeah .

So we're playing one hand and it's a red ace , which is great , and I have both of the black aces and I'm the dealer , and so I , in this case , want nobody to call anything . I want to be able to call this because I can then go alone . It's gonna be a badass move .

No , super , super fun . I love when , that , yeah , that's great . When , right , when the restaurant gets quiet , is when you yell the dumbest thing .

The dumbest shit you possibly can . I didn't shit in your bed , I promise .

Perfect love that . Everybody heard that Exactly right . We get a little scene here where Wayne and Della are arguing about whether they want to hang out with these college kids . We get a nice Oshkosh but fucking gosh reference . We also have yeah , and Coach is kissing his fingers .

I really liked . In this moment I was very much with Wayne . This might be a personality thing too , but I was like we can't be partying and shit . We're doing a thing . This is all very and so part of what I liked about it was it coming out of .

Yeah , this is where we get the line where he's the goddamn beacon of truth and you can't lie . And then this she goes into how you should lie . Choose a character from last movie you saw , take part of their story , and then it's just like he tries to go .

Yeah , yeah , we saw him reading the last episode , yeah .

She's like you can't walk into , part of being like what's up , I'm Conan the Barbarian . He's like it would be kind of cool , though , because he must think Conan is cool in this day and age . The key with this is tell a big , fat , juicy lie . Know the important one you need him to believe .

Yeah , no , that's great advice . You don't want to change things so much that you can't keep track of it . You just you tell people 98% of the truth and then whatever you need to lie about , you make that part little , part up . Simple , don't give too many details , don't make it too wild . You say I had car trouble , I'm on my way , that's it .

Yeah , no , I mean yeah , okay , I mean okay . So here's the thing yeah , right , right , right , no , I'm not gonna . I will definitely not spar with you about the proper way to lie . I'll just assume you know more than I do .

I don't wanna , you know , break my arm , pat myself on the back , as they say , but I felt very dialed in that he ends up with the name John Wayne , because I felt almost immediately in this show that he was a cowboy Interesting and so I was like , oh , look at that , it's showing up again .

Yeah , I mean , that's the big thing . He named himself John Wayne because he can't think of . He's just not a good liar . You gonna have a bomb with us , or watch John Wayne and Dale looks up . And now we cut to back to the . This is so funny . Cut back to the principal , tommy Cole , and this is such a great little speech here .

So I just want to make sure I'm hearing this right . You , the voice grant guardian is authorizing me an adult male you've never met before today , who's never raised any kids in his life , to take your grandson across multiple state lines hundreds of miles away in a shoddy tourist to find his friend , who may or may not be a criminal .

Right , yes , to which the grandma , like we cut , we pivot and we get the shot of the grandma opening her purse and she's like how much money you guys need for food , which is what I just want to make sure I'm hearing this right . An adult male I've had . Adult male was so funny . An adult male you've never met before today .

Also , I think it's telling that this is obviously not Orlando's first month of school , so the fact that she's never met the principal just continues to speak to the kind of school we're dealing with here . Oh yeah , like we've never met before today , right cool , uh-oh .

Yes , now we get this , we get the scene . We cut , we cut back to uselessness . At the at the motel , you know it's standard truth or dare . One of the girls has no top , another dude is wearing her bikini or whatever .

I just thought I found myself as a viewer trying to figure out what percent bullshit we were dealing with , and so I guess I may have projected that on to Wayne , like in addition to the vibe you're describing , like also in the reasoning away part . Wait , am I jealous of a bullshit lie , or am I ? Or is there really a guy but it wasn't a Zamboni ?

Yeah , yeah , no , it's a , it's a . Yeah , it's a weird thing and it's definitely shades of the Patriot , not shades , probably like a a very if you , if we , if we peel the onion , it's probably some terrible thing where women are possessions of their partner and therefore no one else can have them , or some some horrible thing .

Did you have a react ? Oh sorry , go ahead . Go ahead coach . No , now I was going to say , boss , did you have a reaction one way or another ? Because I , I did . I am noting that the two guys are going back and forth on this particular moment in the show .

No , I think it's a lot of it . I think number one this is a , partly a , but Keely has her own sexual history Right Other people , and that's not okay either or they can't remember the exact line .

Only me though , boss , oh bone , only me .

No no no .

No , actually what I'll say .

Bill Lawrence , who , of course , helped out on season one of Ted Lasso and , I think , part of season two on scrubs . Dr Cox and Bill Lawrence's real life wife , trista Miller , who played a name that I'm not remembering right now , but I will think of it . They were together and they broke up .

Big applause , really enjoying that one Very evolved their extreme Jordan .

Her name was Jordan . Extremely evolved yes , I had forgotten about this .

Yeah , I forgot about that whole dynamic . That was very funny .

Yeah , yeah , there's , no , there's no way . Thank you for everything you taught her .

There's no way . I had a friend who called me , says I was at my wife's , we went to her college reunion and then she introduced me to a bunch of her friends or whatever , and there's one great guy like I hung out with them all night . We were like best friends , like best dude ever .

There's 20 years .

And I was like , would you have felt better if , um , if um , you know ? She told you like hey , tonight we're going to meet this guy and he's got it . And he's like , I don't fucking know , I'm like I'm going to be angry either way . So this is about you , though . That's good , that's like as long as you make sure your anger is the key element to this .

I thought you were going to ask if he , uh , would have been happier if he'd hated the guy . Like , it tells me something that the guy that she dated in high school and the guy she ended up getting married to had enough in common that they got along all night .

He's like oh , it's the best dude ever . You know , I don't need that kind of pressure .

I'm like dude , you're the best dude ever , but it's also it is good that she's got good taste .

I have to admit like I don't understand this aspect at all . Like people who your partner have been with before , I don't know I did . That is not a thing for me .

So weird , so weird , it's just weird . I yeah , okay , all right , I'm not saying you're doing the right thing here , boss , but uh , but I like that you do it with a , with a lot of personality .

Number two he doesn't like lying . And she is essentially asking him to do both of those things . So it's maybe not necessarily just the sex aspect of it , but also that he just doesn't like it . If they didn't hang out with these assholes then they wouldn't have to lie , and he doesn't want to do either of them .

Well , I would add to it and I'm not sure this is there for Wayne , but I'm always weird , okay , as an example , people who will tell me all of somebody else's business . I'm always like so I'm pretty confident . That means every fucking thing I've ever told you has been spread far and wide .

And so yeah , so can I .

You know what I mean . And so if I were getting to know someone and she lied with what I viewed as great ease , it would make me at least wonder like yeah , like boss .

Yes , yeah , absolutely .

Lies and steals , that's really your thing .

It's like we're like oh , let's make a podcast with a like lying thief .

Yeah , I mean . The only thing is that eventually I do develop enough trust with people that they know I will never lie about anything significant . But that's about as close as we're getting Like . Especially if you're wearing bad pants and you ask me if your outfit is good , what are we supposed to do ? You can't change it , we're already at the event .

That's funny . Sometimes it's just a risk of whatever . I saw this I think it was a meme with Keanu Reeves or something where he's like I get to a point where you just don't want to . I'm conflict diverse . So someone's like , hey , man , one plus one equals five . He's like , yeah , it is 100% . Have fun with that , Like you do . Like I refuse to .

Oh yeah , Now we're going to shoot the living room too .

No , no , we can't afford to shoot the living room . Put them on the stoop . We'll use the outside lighting . We have no fucking money .

There's several choices like that throughout , where I'm like I get it , I get it .

Yeah , shoestring budget man , I love it . It's scrappy , we get a , we get a book . Into the banana joke , or he's like no , Wayne took his banana . He's like no , I have another one , it's at home . So he offers maybe have some flat soda or like a banana , and Jay's like I'll take a banana , officer . And Geller's like Jay . So this is what's interesting .

Yeah , the different values .

It's that , it's that era of office supply machinery . Anyway , he says , yeah , it's Wayne , Okay . And he said , yeah , it's a , I solved the case of your dead dogs . I was like what ? So now ? Okay , so we're trying to piece together this Sergeant Geller , right ? And it's like okay , we thought he was sort of mid right .

Randolphson leads us afternoon . Dug up the toxicology reports from your vet and shared them with Patricia and forensics . Looked up some noise reports from your neighbors , found some hospital records , ran a few background checks . Jay says I helped with those . He said he did Thanks . Short of it , you didn't kill your dogs . Your next door neighbor did .

I mean Jesus Christ , this guy Wow .

Now that's some pretty good policing when you consider like that that would never get any sort of love . You know what I mean . This kind of this type of thing you just imagine , especially in the town like Brockton , like no one's going to take the death of your dogs very seriously . But this is like solved , this dude solved it , yeah , no .

And like legit police work , like we might think like , oh , it's a dead dog . Like to think like oh well , who made noise complaints ? Oh wait , how the toxicology reports on frigging dead dogs Like , wow , okay , yeah .

Well , and also just the idea that someone would have four dead dogs over the span of eight years . They all seem to go without explanation , like how come Principal Cole wasn't picking up on this , other than the fact that he blames himself ? Like , at what point are you like Jesus ? Why the hell are these dogs saying so quick ?

Yeah , it's a bit odd .

I love .

So , now that you've had the proper amount of time to process this , I'd like to talk about something important which , on the one hand , he's taken all this time to talk to Patricia and to put this all together and to figure out the case and to come in with an answer , and then he brushes the whole thing upside as unimportant .

It does feel a little bit like what is important for him is number one , whatever is important to him . So if the cancer , if Wayne's dad had cancer , cancer is now important to him , but the other thing is almost just doing the work instead of what the crime actually means , like how do we find a good point ?

That's interesting how we win people over , because I thought that Dell buying the chips was act like in some ways , like I said , you know , let's go hang out by the pool as we like have scond off to Florida was kind of interesting . But the buying the buying the chips as a like , hey , let me , let me , let me grease your palm a little there .

Yeah , well said , it's funny because , as I was trying to , I got to look up . I'm going to do this before we record next time . But Sean Simmons does such a great job with Wayne , I'm like , okay , I know he , I know he went to , I know he did this , like , I know he experienced this . You can tell , like this , he knows what he's talking about .

I got that . I liked that . There was and you pointed this out in other places , I was raising it here that there was a black woman college student and zero was made of that , like she wasn't the one who put the rap music on and she wasn't the one who said something sassy to Wayne , like she's just one of their friends .

She wasn't the one drinking a 40 .

Yeah , exactly , you know like , and he's my bet for it .

You know like let's put it up .

I love that you're like she's not the one with the rap . It's so fun , right , it's exactly . You just like okay , good , I do like that . The show does a great job of that . But yeah , it's . Yeah , it's weird because there is . You don't see the character . Sean Simmons and the team here have a very , very .

Well , I wonder too if some of it is Wayne's perception , like it's part of why we're viewing them as so generic , that Wayne sees them as so generic . That's his experience of them . Like they're vapid with their panty droppers and their bullshit like kids , like blah , blah , blah . Can we get the fuck out of you ?

Yeah , I mean to be perfectly honest . I don't think that he should be preventing Dell from hanging out with people , but I absolutely understand why he wouldn't want to hang out with them , If that's we're getting that through him . Yes , that makes a lot of sense .

All right . So Sergeant Keller says you know , your neighbor doesn't like you . He obviously we've talked about , he obviously thinks it's one neighbor , but it's not . It's not the next door neighbor on his side of the street with the sort of manicured flowers , it's , it's the guy across the street .

Well , what was actually funny to me is that he says in one of the earlier scenes there must be something in the water , so he understands that it could be an outside effect , that something is happening that is outside of his control .

Right , that is true , he does say that , yeah .

But even in that case , then he would still blame himself for not knowing that there's something in the water or for not giving his dogs bottled water or whatever else .

Yeah , no , it's really amazing .

Sorry , coach , that felt untarget to me , boss , and I guess there's a I think there's a way of just feeling like I'm just cursed . You know , it's like that whole if I didn't have bad luck , I wouldn't have any luck at all , and I got a sense of that that , yes , it might be the water .

Yeah , you can get into a rut like this in your life . I know , when we got the murder hornets , we're like , are we just not allowed to have good things ? Like we have to be constantly persecuted by you know , like these , these giant hummingbird size , we're like , oh my God , it's just terrible . But you can get into a place like that and it's .

Yeah , I mean even to the point . I live in Chicago , as I've possibly mentioned before . I don't know if I've brought it up , but I'm from Chicago . Last week I had well , the past two weeks I was having issues with my landlord not fixing the furnace , so my heat wasn't working , and that's October in the Midwest , so it's not super warm .

Yeah , it's so crazy . I'm the parent of autistic children and as I was growing up well , once I had my children , I realized and they had their diagnoses I realized that my father was on the spectrum , and so I've mentioned this a lot and I remember so one time that we had this like sort of decrepit old wooden factory building .

I thought it , but I

There's another dynamic , though , that ends up at play after that . There's like the after game , which is we . You and I both have a friend in common who , when I tell him , I'm like , yeah , you know , you know , coach , coach , bishop and I both have that diagnosis , and he's like but he just doesn't believe it . He's like oh , you're not .

Okay , awesome , that's that's one .

So you know , just in order to ADHD explain you guys to you , because obviously that's the thing . Also , I'm going to be talking about the Cosby show . Obviously , I should be explaining that to you , coach Bishop . Yeah , there's the episode where Theo gets diagnosed .

Yes , yes .

And Vanessa says to him something along the lines of all those years that you weren't good in school and mom and dad called you lazy and she was like oh , that dad must feel real guilty about that , it's like well . I don't think he did . I think maybe he still thinks a little bit that you were just too lazy .

Yeah , and that's yeah , and that's , that's . That is complicated , but yeah it's a super real it's a super real thing . He says 20 minutes out from his Adderall dosage and ready to rock .

Yeah , yeah , there you go , coach , there you go , that's good . Yeah , no , no , it's , it's , it's there . There are levels to all of it . Anyway , we see that initially we mentioned that Tommy Cole jumps out of his chair , blames the wrong guy and then finds out that it's the guy across the street , the . You know , and I like that .

What the fuck did I ever do to that fucking guy ?

Absolutely right , coach . Now we get this , this . We get a moment here where again we're back to the college students . It's less interesting . We talked a little bit about how listen they can't , they can't all be home runs people . It's still an awesome show , but you know , this is this was a little undercooked for my taste .

Nope or is there a different one ?

No .

Oh , oh , oh oh . You mean the vagina , word that people usually use to mean weak , but what we have replaced it with is scrotum .

Right , he's a real scrotum . He's a real scrotum , right . Thank you , boss . So then Wayne tells the story . We push in . We always tell you , you know when the camera pushes in , you know it's important . We push in on Wayne telling the story about him being thrown down the stairs and blacking out and he died for two minutes , and then his brother Van Moest .

So yeah , sorry just in order to make it very clear this is his brother that beat the shit out of him , not his dad . His dad was away on work and his brother ? Did I just say dad ? No , no , no , no .

You do . I mean lots of questions after like wait , what , how , what , but whatever the case was , that is , that is what was going down in that household . You got to be pretty pissed . I might throw them down some fucking stairs .

Yeah , are pretty fucked up , Like you have rage issues . You are angry . You might not be angry at that person , but you are fucking angry for you to throw somebody down some mother fucking stairs ?

That's , that's , that's deep into the course . I like , I like .

I like hearing like the mathematical analysis worked with coach and he's like , yeah , then actually let me put the where does that go in the level of yeah , no , that's pretty high .

I'm serious , all right , so we get through that thing , the kid .

the kid . The front point number three stands toe to toe , face to face , with Wayne . We get a side shot of that where I'm like I , this is a guy who has a hammer . I'm not sure you want to do that , friend , but yeah anyway . Then we cut back to Tommy Cole . Back on we mentioned you know , locations cost a lot of money .

I really enjoyed this because for the first couple lines I thought I was the odd man out Right . So I was like , wait , are they talking about the dog , Are they talking about Wayne ? And I was thinking I was playing catch up and then I realized , oh no , I'm not going to catch up .

I also appreciate , like in the I love that coach . I also appreciate that they he's got to sit on real shitty chairs . Like real shitty chairs there's like the one that Geller is sitting on , is the old basket , woven shitty plastic , colored strips on like wafer , thin aluminum . Yeah , yeah , you know what I mean when it has like a latch on it , that's .

Oh yeah , that's a , that's a finger , just a finger .

You know what I mean ? That's all . That is A finger trap , but yeah , anyway . So they get back on , on on point , and you know , we now , now we get a little insight into , into Wayne from from Tommy Cole . And what does he say here , boss , what is this describing Wayne ?

You're going to base your investigation solely on what's in your police files and interviews with people from around the town , you should probably just go find him and lock him up right now . Shit , I could have thrown him out of school two dozen times , but I got to tell you something the kids never got a chance .

Yeah , the Gellar says the world's a cruel place and he says , fucking , a reddit is how .

I like , I like that he said all of this and I felt like we have a thing we do where we put people in . We we put people in desperate situations and we punish them for their desperate actions . Yes , right , and it's you know , sort of systemically , systemically . Yeah , we do this .

And every arena of modern , of the modern world , especially with marginalized or yes , or people with less money .

Yes , we put we kick them down , and then we know , you , know you read stuff about how expensive it is to be poor or whatever , like we just all sorts of things and all sorts of reasons , and whether it's race or we just do it , we just put people in these impossible circumstances and when they behave in desperate ways then we punish them for it .

Yeah , and this isn't real life . But one of the weirdest things I've watched happen In real time is the reaction to the show . Shameless , because when it started , fiona Gallagher , the oldest sibling I actually did way too much research in order to determine that I think at the start of the show she was about 19 years old and all of her siblings were younger .

This is my big concern with the pandemic is with everybody . All these kids , the entire generation of kids , got totally railroaded by this thing and then no one did any damage control .

What just I mean that was that was literally a global trauma , so , but there's a phrase you use , boss , that I think really speaks to how this all works or doesn't , which is nothing happened , and I love that you said it that way .

Yeah , we don't need to belabor this point . But number one I read something about a school district in Texas that was turning their libraries into detention centers for the kids , which feels really productive and like a great idea .

If you're demanding , I wear a mask . I just want to say it's not safe to breathe your own CO2 , which I did learn on YouTube , it's very true .

Yes , did some research . I did my own research .

I did my research .

So , yeah , we get through all that . That speech , it is true , and everything you guys have said is positive .

So how much vacation time you got saved up .

Yeah .

Because it is not official police work . It's not going to chase after somebody who possibly abducted a teenage girl , or possibly just a couple of runaways , but this is no longer in their jurisdiction . So this is them doing it on their own .

It's , yeah , it's interesting . Something about that speech seemed to really it may have been maybe that Geller was already leaning that way , but something about this like this kid never had a shot Right and this whole through line of second chances , it really sort of lands with Geller . And did you see this coming ?

I was looking for that . I was looking for like what is this ? Because , yeah , it was at this moment that I realized that was what you just described with cannonball is what they were doing .

Yeah , it's multiple road trips , it's not just a road picture .

Yeah , I was like , oh , and then it's going to be chaos because we have the idiots who are already in Florida , then we have like just groups of specifically idiotic people going down there to bring more insanity . So yeah , it was fun . The minute he said that I shook my head . I went oh God .

Okay , I love that . Okay , so now we get this little tiny , we're going to again gloss over the less important elements of the some of these subplots . You have the , you have the teenagers and with Wayne , and you know this guy , Tug , who is the ringleader of the college students . This is Truth or Dare .

I loved that he said the quiet part , like , of course , I think I'm better than you . You're some guy in a shit gray sweatshirt and I'm on my spring break , haha . We drink and do drugs with abandon because no one's going to stop us toward , and so once she got a little tense , I mean it took him two seconds to pull out that .

to do with anything . Yeah , that's the male Karen version of . I want to speak to your manager .

Yes , yes , yes .

I will say that I , the authenticity of this moment was lost on me because I didn't . I didn't believe it . In my experience and again , one man's , one man's experience the , the townies , always have more to lose . So this is coming from a prep school kid who had a best friend in .

Yeah , yeah , yeah .

Yeah , yeah , ok , so we continue on , and now we have a scene where coach walk us through this . Right here you got Tommy Cole walking through to get his , to get his next dog . It looks like right what's happening here .

Yeah , we're at the rescue . Clearly we've got individually caged dogs and he walks directly over to what I think even as a now dog lover , I could describe as a snarling monster , and I was like whoa , the dog is like I mean , this is not a dog anyone should want to have near them . And so he goes straight to this dog .

Right , yeah , yeah , yeah , I'm such a like that . You know , you know the type of coach . Coach has a little dog guy , but you know every dog , or you know , at least you knew my last one . But I like the . This is like a shepherd mix , like you , look at that dog that's jumping around like crazy and I'm like , oh , I would .

But at some point we're going to have to sit down and figure out what your dog preferences mean about you as a dog owner , because the only dog that I've ever owned that's ever been mine I actually sort of took from my older sister .

The same boyfriend , not like same . This is the same boyfriend ? No , yeah , but everybody loves your boy , Doesn't he like you ? That's one of his superpowers . Is he sort of universally well he ?

is very charming , yes , but it's to the point where one time he was coming over to the apartment where I shared with my sister , I was taking the dog out for a walk and there was a very slight , like one of those you know community lawn , like townhouse sort of landscaped , very slightly sloping lawn , and as she saw him pull up she laid down on her back so

So amazing . Holy , yeah , I can picture that that's amazing .

Not the smartest dog maybe , but definitely she's right .

Yeah , no , I had a girlfriend in college and her parents were the best Part of me thinks like I was sort of with her to be with a good parental unit , like her parents were the two best people in the world and remember going to her house and they would go to the local dog shelter and say like they would pick the one nobody wanted . That was the goal .

My mom's pick is always the most pitiful one at the shelter . Whoever it is that like the most scared , the most , the least likely , yes , and he's like if they need the most love , that I need to look .

Oh , that's good See .

No , it's very nice . The one most in need of rescue is the one she rescues .

I see , I love that . That's what I that's . That's that says something Wow , yeah , that's great . Good job , kathy . Now we get to seeing here with Wayne . He takes up , you know , he basically proves the dare that . I'm sorry , coach .

I'm gonna . I'm gonna jump back in here and not not that we're going to go too far down this road , but based on other stories you've shared , boss , that that instinct to choose the dog that needs the most help and the most love , my show might have showed up in some other choices that were made . You said I was like oh well , is that interesting ?

Oh , I wonder if that has anything to do with the other choices she's made in life . Yeah , no , you would not be not be far off on that either . That is a good instinct .

Yeah , never , never gets boring with team chambers . All right , so fast forward to . We got . We have the scene where Wayne calls the bluff , does the ghost through the window on the bike into the pool like the craziest thing ever .

We dealer don't , don't sell it short .

Yeah , I really slash black black market DVD aficionado .

We call that a multi hyphenate .

Multi it is . That's what it is , coach . Now I want to point out that the , the drippy local cop , first , his first instinct is to pull his weapon .

Great point .

Number one .

where the hell did the cops come from that quick ? This was like 30 seconds later . Like Wayne goes into the pool , dell shouts Jesus , crisis , is your idea of lying low ? And then the cops are there . Where the fuck did they come from ?

We already established . This is like a , this is like a fair cop , fairy tale boss , like , yeah , that's fair . When did you know ?

when did you say he was going to call was ? Did he say the call they say he's going to call after the crash through the window ? It must have they were everywhere .

I think we got , yeah , we got a sense like he had called them already as he or something like that . Yeah , right , but they were there quickly . They do have to . Yeah , it does defy believability a little bit to have you know what's the phrase is like never a cop when you need one , right , like that's the standard grumble .

And that that Deborah put them into . We did learn her name . Her name is well .

I'd like to be reductive or the friendly neighborhood prostitute , why give her ?

Deborah , the friendly neighborhood prostitute , slash we dealer , slash notary .

But it was interesting because there was a I know we have . So our listeners are listening and not watching the show , which we're fine with , and but the bed is like , it's like a mattress on a platform , but the platform is hollowed out , so instead of being a flat platform , it's just the periphery of the platform and you have the mattress on top .

So so we're holding the leash pretty tight , which is fine . We're just getting to know the new animals . So we want to make sure that we're establishing control .

he say when he , when he closes the door , he lets a dog go in , the dog is like foaming at the mouth . You know it's not rabid , but he's a . He's a ferocious dog , opens him up , puts him up .

No , no , this is not going to go . What has ?

what has ? What has Tommy Cole named this , this particular dog ?

He has named this dog Wayne , and I just to say meet Wayne . It's not much unlike if this person met Wayne . Like if we're , if we were in the office and mid banana , principal Cole it said you know this guy across the street from me . I just found out he killed four of my dogs .

Maybe this is why this so appeals to me so much because it's it's , it is we talk about your everyone on and where they land on the alignment grid and I tend to be chaotic good and like this is the chaotic version of good , like this is very outside the law , but like you feel like was justice done here , boss ? Like truly .

I mean , this man has killed four dogs , right and thought he got away with it .

He's like a shit eating . Yeah , you know self important , asshole , murderer , killing , taking the lives of living things . And then he meets Wayne the dog .

Well and Wayne the dog , although there was a part of me that wondered Did Tommy Cole decide not that he was going to save either Wayne the dog or Wayne the person , but at least point them in the right direction where their chaos could be used for good , rather than Like the guy already has a lot of that going on ?

Certainly I'm here to be the break you never got .

Yes .

In as far as I can , yeah , yeah .

Even if that break is only like , I'm going to make sure you stay out of jail so you could keep enacting justice across the school Right and coach , I know you did not see it coming when , when , when , when , when Gellar says how much vacation you got

We did see earlier in this , in this episode , the , the fantastic interaction between principal Cole and Orlando's grandmother . He's like , let me just be clear , you're going to let me , a person you just met , take your son across ? No , not just a person a man . Yeah , a man you just met . I take your son across multiple state lines like whatever .

Be out front by six o'clock .

Yeah , be out front by . They're going , they're going . So we're talking about cannonball run . So now we have Wayne . Right , we have Wayne as the as the first one we have . The second one is is the Luchete's , the third one is going to be the cops off duty . And now we got Tommy Cole and Orlando .

Yeah , Now this is end of end of act one of this season . We are off .

Yes , exactly right . Yes , now that that's right . Yeah , that's right . The table has officially been set right . We talk about how the three act structure , and the first thing is they say put your , put your hero on a tree , put your protractors in a tree , act to as you throw rocks on Adam and him or her .

So now that they've ditched the cops , dell is all of a sudden realizing shit . She took the money . Oh fuck , they've got to get the hell out of there . Wayne revs the engine . I think we might have skipped over the part where they were talking while hiding behind the we did , we did .

Yeah , I glossed right over it . Yeah , okay , but tell me what we missed there .

So . So what we missed there is , as they're huddled , she's still yelling at him about like that's not fucking laying low and she says you know , I didn't do it right , the Zamboni thing . She said I haven't actually done it anywhere , not that it's any of your business , which I actually kind of like . There is always that , like I will tell you .

The record player . The record player part .

And you could see on her face where she's like , oh fuck . So the rest of it was not . The rest of it was the big truth . And then you made up one little lie about how it was because of the record player , which is Right Ruff , that's fucking rough .

The only part of the story . That isn't fucking horrifying .

Yeah , I mean , it would still be fucking horrifying if your brothers killed you for two minutes because you broke his record player , but at least then there's a reason . And when she says Right , so why did he beat the shit out of you ? He says I don't know , like he just did , that's just what his life was like .

Because the world has people in it who will beat the shit out of you for no good reason .

Well , part of it . I think I've mentioned on here before that people who are extremely good at recognizing tiny facial expressions , like just the minutest of smiles or whatever else , are the people who have cared for stroke victims or the adult children of alcoholics , because you need to be able to read that so well . Yeah , you mentioned that .

That's right . Yeah , that's exactly right and I think I think that's hugely important . He doesn't just turn into sort of blanket of user right , he's John Wayne .

He is John Wayne he is .

You know , he's the cowboy who's going to come to town , and all right well , if you don't have a sheriff , guess what ? You got one now .

Yeah , that's not accidental , I don't think , and you do have the continuation of that is talking about manifesting your own reality , though you know we talk a little bit about some .

Absolutely , absolutely . Yeah , I mean you definitely train yourself to see what you're going to see . It's funny that you bring this up , because I thought it in terms of coal .

Yeah , no , no , it's a good point , coach . Now , boss , we get a split . Waiting and waiting and Dell right off , and then we get it . That should be the end of the episode , right , except because this little glimpse , this little button on the episode where we smash a Chiron that says Ocala Florida and then walk us through this final scene here , boss .

So in this final scene the Sarvi is pulling up to what we now know is Wayne's car and it's , you know , like the smallest of bumps . This should not even be a thing . This should be like you wave your hand out the window and then you keep driving and you don't bother .

I imagine this is what like coach this is . This is me projecting for sure . But I looked at this and I go I bet like in some level , this is like complete validation for anyone who's not a white person , where you're like , yeah , this is , this is how I see you know . Like this is who the fuck they are .

Yeah , should make you hyper instead of not , although I've read plenty of different articles that say that's all nonsense and it's psychosomatic . If you hear it's Indica , you feel more chilled out , but the actual weed itself is identical .

Really interesting is what I've heard .

It's what scientists tell me . The weed scientists have informed me of this . Is that right ?

That's not . I'll tell you right now . That's not what . When I watch Archer and I've had some redheaded stepchild oh OK , no , sorry , it's called Redheaded Stranger Shit . I just read about it . So I don't , I don't know . I got it all wrong , but yeah , I don't know .

I know that's all the weed talking . I'm telling you that I don't know . That's your weed brain , that won't let you remember it correctly .

It's so funny . I wish I knew was more of an authority on this topic , but I'll take your word for it . I literally don't . I don't know . I don't know if that's the case , but it seems weird to me . These guys would be that high and then go and then like the smoke coming out of there , out of their mouth , it was like it is like fully opaque .

And . But I think it's also interesting because is it like this is ? So normal for them . Like we think of this as like how could you get this fired up ? But like think about they didn't have to like go find supplies . They had the gloves , they had everything ready to go . Like I was like what do you mean gloves ? What are ?

you guys doing the younger one . The step brother character is a step brother . I don't know if he's related , but the kid picks up a hammer like a ball peen hammer like , looks at it and then puts it away Like it's not sufficient to the task , before he picks up a crowbar .

Also , though , again , justice , injustice , the , john Wayne and the . There we go . The last person we saw wielding a hammer uses it , but justly , yes , right , but he's , but they are just you know I mean talk about disproportionate response . My God , my , and what that's like ?

they're things flying out of the side window .

Yes , one guy has gone inside and just .

Microwave and tossed it through the window . It's up .

Yeah , having all those things on hand at the movie .

old school has not aged particularly well in a couple of ways , but it's still funny enough that there's a scene where one of the students who might be getting expelled says my mom told me that if I dropped out of college she'd said she'd kill me .

Well , listen , if it's the , you get a sense also that this is a little wish fulfillment , where you know , sometimes if you're a creator , if you're a person who , let's say something drives you crazy and you write a show like Wayne , you can actually sort of play it up a little bit .

I mean , I last night nearly got sideswiped by some asshole in a Tesla with Ontario plates because they didn't know the difference between upper and lower whacker . And then the fucking power didn't even have the guts to pull up next to me at the stoplight so that I could properly scold him with just my face . I'd already honked the horn .

You know what happened to me the other day . I was driving my daughter to school and are you guys aware of the term , of the concept ? If the obstruction is on your side of the road , then you have to pause Right away . You give the right away to the other side because you have the obstruction .

Yeah .

So this is very I don't want to get it too far . It was a complicated scenario where there's like three cars on my side of the road and this person in another car , who has like two walkers on her side of the road , like just pulls out fully into our lane , makes the purse first person back up , won't just refuses to whatever .

This is the difference between us , right ?

Well , I just go because , well , listen , boss , I go like this , I'm like , I'm showing , I go like , like , like I'm curious , you know like what , and I am judge , and she looks at me and she gives me the finger I'm the third car . And then , listen , this is how this is how far I've come , is I ?

This is why I felt completely comfortable driving in LA . Absolutely no issue with that . In fact , if I'm remembering correctly , I think that there were like big signs on the actual streets themselves that were like hey , watch out , you need to stop soon . Like they gave you a warning .

like I've driven all through Europe and Naples is like another . I lived in Athens for a year and Athens , greece , and we used to use this has changed . I will say this is a long time ago and this has changed . But like people would use the sidewalk to as a , as a , not as a fully .

They would get in front of you , yeah .

So they would like pull in front , they would like nose in front of you because you're , you're ready to turn . So , like you're , let's say you're going to make a U turn , okay .

Yeah .

So they would turn . They're going to make a ? U turn next person , so everybody would go and then they would all be like , but they would end up in the order that .

I don't know .

First order yeah , yeah , no , the same order , the right order because you're first , so you , oh , no , no , you're right , it would work out in reverse order . Yes , yeah , because they would get in front of you , because they would get in front of you and you couldn't see .

Yeah , the Greeks might have come up with democracy and philosophy and whatever else , but they fucked up driving , because that is uncalled for , that . You would somehow be the first there and the last in line . I am outraged .

Yeah .

This is the most patriotic I've ever felt in my entire life .

Like fucking USA , usa See that's all you need to do Experience other cultures , and it'll just make you jingoistic . It's wonderful .

I'm so angry . I hate this . We need to end the podcast right now . I have to go take a walk .

I can't , I can't see so funny I love it , I love it , ma'am , ma'am , did you not hug ?

my car , ma'am , ma'am , oh Jesus .

One thing I'll point out here , you know my bleeding heart come to the surface is we had this whole conversation in reverse order . We've kind of , you know , wayne , the dog who in its own way is now , you know , a bit of a hero in the story for all its snarlingness , and then actual Wayne , who we established and agree , never had a chance .

At some point these guys in the trans am could have been laying but didn't have Wayne's dad to teach them that code that you don't fuck with people who fuck with you unless , like he's never fucked with anybody that's fucked with him . When the talk at the fucking pool was saying all that shit about him , he didn't beat down talk .

Listen , it is actually a , I think , a very intelligent structural and character developing decision that Wayne did not beat up talk . I think we would have liked him significantly less had he done that .

Agreed , agreed , agreed , because it doesn't . He doesn't need to hit that guy in the hallway with a trumpet Right . So I don't want to make it seem like , but someone did need to protect people who needed to protect him . Well , landon was down .

The girl with the neck brace was on the floor , yeah yeah , yeah , yeah , he was taking action based on his code .

Yeah , this was bad .

But you're saying like he didn't know , you're talking about the level of it .

Well , I'm just saying like one could have come out in the hallway and said you stop that . That's not very nice . Like he is , he is Wayne and so he his .

Murphy stand up about I'm sure you guys do , but the Eddie Mercer about when , like little white guys , go see Rocky for the first time .

Yes , yes , rock go .

Rock go . They reminded me of that really Well yeah , no , definitely it was .

that energy was like you're not , yeah , right .

And also there was the element of Dell was getting along really well with the guys . Would this be a ? Oh God ? I'm going to forget the term now , it doesn't matter . Somebody called it a peeing race at one point instead of a pissing contest . But like would this be fighting ?

You thought they didn't buy it . I think they didn't buy it . Oh , okay , that's a new development . I thought they thought I didn't think they'd question that .

That's interesting I don't know if they would have questioned it . I think that well , I don't know , maybe it's just a weird sort of Lannister vibe , but I think maybe that they knew .

Well , so you look at the first episode . We have the sort of obstacles , physical , right , Wayne and Dell are apart , they each have to manage their own thing . The second episode is sort of this like a sort of trust dynamic and a physical like sort of level of accountability .

I think it also speaks to , yes , and I think some of their shared agreement , some of the shared agreement they're going , they're developing , is how will they interact with the wider world ? Because Wayne is truly fine with existing outside of it and I get the sense that Dell is like . There's a part I've I've existed in this fucked up part .

That's a great point , coach . Yeah , I want to see what's out there .

You know , even even selling Girl Scout cookies , you know , when put I mean each in their own way has a bit of like a you know kind of childish . Like it's not , you know it's . It's more naughty than like you know . But selling the , the , the , the Titty magazine , whatever right , like Girl Scout cookies again , like she's .

Well , well , that's . I love that . You said that , coach , right . When Wayne sells the Titty magazine , it's like to mean to an end has nothing to do with his identity inside of the sale . But when Dell is knocking on doors , sometimes people open that door and think this is a Girl Scout selling Girl Scout cookies . Yeah she gets to be a Girl Scout .

I think that her glimpse into the private lives of the people that she's selling the cookies to is most mimicked by Wayne going next door to tell the kids to stop setting off the fireworks and seeing that family . But yes , I think she is more willing to acknowledge that she would like that than Wayne currently is .

Yeah , thank you Right , love it . Okay , wonderful Coach , where do people find you if they want to find you ?

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you .

Still on Twitter , although finding it harder and harder . You know it's not great . So I'm going to push blue sky and I'm also going to say I have a few codes .

Love it . I'm a natural skeptic , so I just think it's a matter of time before blue ski becomes X or whatever . I don't trust any social media .

I'm also on there .

It just seems like a nicer place right now .

I mean , Twitter is so toxic right now that it's also , you missed it , that blue sky , when it rebrands , is just going to be known as BS , obviously , oh yes .

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Thank you for listening and , yeah , we'll be back . Can't wait to keep deep diving this with you , and until next time we are .

Richmond to we die yeah .

And we might die for two minutes , like Wayne and then speak for yourself .

I'm lazy , you don't want to come back to life . What's the hallway ?

Just laid down . I just laid down .