Ted Lasso | S3 Ep8 Part3 "We'll Never Have Paris"

We suggest you go back and listen to parts one and two and then go all the way back and listen to season one , episode one , and then go all the way through , at which point you will be nauseated by the amount of times we tell the same stories . I am your host , coach Castleton . With me , as always , is Coach Bishop .

I will say that I found , from this point on , i found there are some points in the episode that I thought improved , and I know we've been very God .

We don't try to be down on any episode , we really don't , because we love the show , we want to see the see the beauty and positivity and everything , but this one , this one's a tough one , and so , but I will say , i think , going forward , there are going to be some moments that I personally enjoyed and hopefully we'll be able to shine a light on them .

We have left off with a very isolated Colin took the wind out of our sails , we left everyone sad and morose , but now we're going to pick it up with Rebecca and Keely and Rebecca's office . Why don't we have ? let's just blast through this scene and then analyze it .

I won't even have to tell you who's who , because I know one of the two of you is very non keely , esque , so I'll just leave it there . Right , bishop ? We'll take it from the line . This whole thing is so fucking upsetting , let's do it .

I am always the proponent of not shying away from the darkness and talking about the bad things that happened and being willing to acknowledge them , because them existing does not nullify good things happening , but this did feel like a moment where , in real life , i feel like Rebecca should have been like Oh my God , did he go to jail Because your teacher shouldn't

have released a photo of utopolis ?

I don't know , coach . I'm looking at you . Look at Coach . Are you frozen , coach ?

Even so , you would think that at the very least it's bad form for a teacher or someone in a position of authority to pass around the topless photo . Or , who knows , maybe it was stolen off as well . I don't really know , but it was a . It's a very Ted Lassoy attempt at a joke .

I had a redirection joke , but for some reason it wasn't , as it felt a little like okay .

I'm saying that's , but I think that plays into this .

I have it drilled into my kids that , like , whatever you send will be there forever And you have no control over it once it leaves your phone or leaves your computer or whatever . And recently one of my daughter's friends did just this pasta make a picture of herself to a boy .

And then everybody in the school saw it , and my daughter , and said to her I wouldn't do that if I were you And the poor girl had obviously destroyed by this . And it's not funny and it's not whatever , but it's different . This is a girl who her mom .

When my daughter and her started to be friends , her mom came onto my front porch to pick her up from like they were hanging out . And this is they were 16 . So , pre being able to drive , and I remember I was saying , god , i'm trying to manage , like all the books I have .

And because she saw me carrying out a bunch of books at the end of the year And she goes , i just burn them . I know You remember I told you about this lady . Yeah , and I was like I was , like it may have been the first , you know , i don't know if people on the show can tell , but I can talk a lot And I was speechless Like I did .

I was like you're a book burn , like you burn books . I was just like staring at her and she saw my reaction and has not talked to me since this moment And she's like I don't know if I want you to hang out with you know , my daughter It was that kind of thing . She saw how horrified I was And I didn't know how to recover . Usually I'm pretty quick .

I can say Oh , i can play it off as a joke , i won't let you know how I feel about something , but I was like , oh my God , all I talk about is libraries and the written word and books and how you know , i think my Twitter feed says books are everything Like , and this woman on my property is saying like , yeah , just hail , fucking burn them , baby .

I'm like Jesus Christ . Anyway , whoo , all right . So this was a , and her daughter was the one who passed around , made pictures and had a terrible year And just the whole thing was yeah , it was rough , rough , rough , coach , is what I'm saying ? Yeah , yeah , all right . So Keely says I'm not an idiot , let's take it from there .

A year later my mom had to get everything re-upholstered . I blamed it on the dog . Well , that was smart . Yeah , we didn't have a dog .

And so to me that is her saying I love you back in a way , Yes , definitely , and also I liked it a lot more that it was .

I've had you guys read a lot of scenes before .

you want .

you know it's like , let me , rather than I know there are tons of , okay , it's that tonal thing where you say are these two people ? do I believe this is how they talk , or does this feel like a PSA ? Does this feel like it's instructive ? Right , i know there are tons of topist photos of me online , but those are my choice .

Absolutely , it makes a huge difference . Yeah , is there anything I can do to help Restructure society ? So , when I'm not going listen , yes , restructure society , and we've deep dived this several times about the hypersexualization of women and all the pitfalls around that . But I felt like God . It didn't feel what authentic .

It didn't feel like it flowed in the same way other Keely Rebecca scenes have flowed .

There's a lot more of that bearded . you know , i know what you're going to say . So to me I think almost you could have cut a couple of these lines in half and let one finish the other one's thought , and I think you would have had a really different experience of this scene . But there is a ton of we got to make sure to say in the dialogue here .

Because it's all just like half callbacks to jokes that we've been making our entire lives . I feel like Keely and Rebecca are in a position now where it would be like oh and salsa , and salsa would be a thing that they understood , like , oh , you're in Emily's house now . It is also a thing that my friends would understand , because that's a common enough joke .

I feel like they are explaining too much to each other to be as good of friends as they are .

Obviously , here we are dealing with and actually now that I say this , they're in the same position they were in when Rebecca shows her that picture . Huh , oh , wow , i didn't catch that , but they sure are . And what a difference , right , i mean that was . I have this picture . It didn't get published , it wasn't all over town .

I don't have to feel like I need to explain it next time I go into a store so they could have fun with it , whereas now this is a nightmare .

power and proximity to people in power , and that Keely didn't have a heads up and was powerless to stop it because nobody tipped her . She wasn't a big enough player that somebody would say like , hey , this is coming and you need to watch out for it .

I think it does raise some bigger issues because let's say that in real life there were a Rupertish person running for the equivalent of Prime Minister And that person had the access to the owner of the sun to stop stories about you know , the new Rebecca's in his life , and then he became Prime Minister and it was a shit show .

I'm just saying something like that could happen . I'm not saying it has happened or that there's any present court case regarding that scenario . All I'm saying is it could happen .

? It's caked in lawyer ick .

So I've heard ick , you like I had a bunch of ick on him , and then I've heard ick used as a feeling like a feeling of disgust , or You know like there's also like the thing it's sick combo of sick and ill is ick . So anyway , i just thought like Uh , whatever disgusting or horrible kind of kind of thing , it whatever .

But it was so let's cake in lawyer ick . I was like okay , she's trying to say this is just gross lawyer stuff . But you're imagining actual lawyer vomit yeah , i don't know why I was like , i just think there's a better way to say it . But it's fine , it's okay . It made me feel like worked for two out of three of us .

And then I think , is there a methodology where This is a big thing about ? You know , there should be a place where you teach young women to masturbate properly , like that's the thing . There should be and and and men , more so men , because they need to control their testosterone in some fucking way .

But what I shouldn't say more so it's just that that I think more destruction tends to come from the male side of the of the equation . But yeah , where is that ? where is a place where it's healthy and To do ?

you know , you have , you have genetic mutilation in half the world And you have , i've had it happen to to people in my direct family and It is horrific , it is absolutely horrific . Mm-hmm . And yeah , like firsthand experience , i've , i've , i've heard from family members coach , that coach is like holy fuck , yeah , right you know what I mean and you just go .

Yeah , so . Yeah , how do you know that ? Yeah , health , health , sort of healthy respect for the sex drive , the libido of both Men and women , is something we , at least in the United States , don't do a fantastic job with . But I did like that . Rebecca was trying to find a silver lining in this whole thing .

If you were a parent and you feel like you're uncomfortable having conversations with your children about all of the specifics . Please , for the love of God , at the bare minimum , tell them that porn isn't real and not to copy anything in it .

If they're gonna watch it , that's fine , like you know , try to make it ethical and whatever else , but please don't think that that's what you should be doing in real life , because you should not . Somebody's gonna get hurt , somebody's gonna get . I mean that There is it .

There is a tick tock of a young man , i want to say like late teens , maybe early 20s , where he has video game controller and he is jabbing at the buttons as quickly as possible and Trying to show off his sexual prowess to women .

I believe what he thinks is he is going to do that to a woman's clitoris and that that's going to be an enjoyable Experience for because he could move his hands , so so , so , so fast .

And then there's a stitch where a woman late teens , early 20s takes the same video controller and takes the joystick and slowly rubs it in a very normal paced circle and then drops the controller . That is , go watch that video if you want to do anything . Don't watch porn to get tips . The end .

I will . Any question you have , you know I'll answer it and it'll be funny and we'll have a good time and it'll be a blast and and . But yet so many people don't have that and they find they look at porn and God forbid if they find the wrong .

You know piece of Pornography to study from and you go Yeah , you get button masher's Anonymous over there and on top of it You just get it's super unhealthy and super well not if you get at your health points .

Oh you know , back down really good , yeah , yeah cutting edge . I went back and it was so , it was so sad . We're like , really , this is what we thought , what ? anyway , it was a great , great game called City of Heroes , where you got to make your own superhero and make your own superpowers and God we .

I really it would be very illustrative to remember what you made and what were your powers , what you chose .

But but from him , you know , someone growing up in the era of Brandon Hunter , jason Sudeikis or me , or coach , you know these would have represented very , very unattainable , nearly impossible sort of I guess , sexual , i guess achievements , for lack of a better term . And He says good , also French sisters , spanish twins , mom and daughter in Mexico .

Miss you all , merci . Now we cut to Keely , exiting the . That's it . That's it , boss . You saying something ? No , you're just nodding .

But good old Colin , i Sure agree . I know exactly what you mean . Vagina is so wonderful . I bet that was just wonderful .

So this is the existence She's living right now , sort of exemplified by how she's clothing herself . She says thank you Are so high to someone . Leaving the facility very sheepishly or entering the facility , there's a woman with , like Rebecca platinum hair and I was like , wow , there's , there are two like like white platinum blondes in this building .

Like that is She got . She walks over to her vehicle , which I couldn't place . Do you guys wreck ? are you car people ? I couldn't place that vehicle . I was like is that a ? it's like a Miata , but I'm like that's got to be like an alpha Romeo or something .

It's a good she's got her own convertible , sort of , but I couldn't place it and I tried to pause it .

. It's fucking shit , yeah on so many levels .

That's right , even catch the is fucking shit , joe .

I Want like a Wild West showdown Where I get to walk out with spurs , with keely hazel and Dylan moron and And just look at them in the eye on the high , on the high street and say , like you think you're gonna Run , run my boy , roy Kent , right here , like you don't get to write this line , you do not get to write this , like out of the blue .

For what reason ?

There's a . There's a movie ordinary people came out in , like 1980 , something like that , but anyway , yes , amazing film . For those who haven't seen it , very much worth it . I love that movie . Anyway . There's a . There's a .

There's a moment in the in the film , where one of the main characters turns to another and says if Nothing had happened , we would have been fine . But they , they , they had a catastrophe come into their lives and that catastrophe exposed Her shortcoming .

But if , if that catastrophe hadn't come along , they'd be taken pictures by the tree and attending graduations and everything would have been cool .

But that's not how it played out and and I feel like Roy is learning and Dealing with when something hurt his feeling and all these kinds of things , but he , it's not like he's just devoid now of What came before , and so I appreciated this , as he would have been cool , But for the fact that he is envisioning that she made this thing . For who , jamie ?

and it's making him fucking nuts , and when we're under stress , we revert .

I say the wrong thing . My larger issue is we never talk about it , like Roy and Keely never address it in the show . It's not cleared up in this episode and it's not discussed later in future episodes , like he just does it and then they never discuss the fact that it obviously visibly hurts her feelings .

Sorry , i want to make sure that we're not that , that we're not Sort of maligning the great Jane Goodall here . I just want to say that by mit he had been on this trajectory of improvement and I was here for it . I really enjoyed it . And when I say Keeley Hazel and Dylan Maron , let's be very clear about something there the writers of this episode .

But it , every single word of this , was approved by . Jason Sudakis And so he has the final say and I think he fucked up . I just think , in this case , i don't think in the long term , this scene where Roy and and Keeley have this , this sort of terrible beat between them , was great for the , the show writ large and So that's it . I .

I didn't like it . I didn't like her reaction to it because it like when she just like bowed her hatched about her chin and Okay , so let's finish reading and then we'll go over the rest of it . Okay .

But one of the I Guess one of the great sort of Points of light of this series was gruff sort of really , really emotionally closed off . Roy can't coming and becoming , making his emotions accessible , naming them , working on them becoming a better man and and at the , at the 11th hour , to have this Kind of thing happen .

This has always been a thing And and so I I understand why it's upsetting , but I actually did . When it happened , my stomach dropped , but it didn't drop , i think , in the way that it dropped For you , coach , in that I thought You just made a mess .

Now I do agree that and I see we're like here and with that Michelle moment of Confrontation that there's some things that we sort of like plant a seed and never come back for the harvest there and I get it . But I thought , i believe I really believed it .

I thought this guy if there's one thing that he's carrying around with him , i mean , think about it when he says , hey , the teacher asked me what was what and I didn't mention you basically she says Jamie Toby , he loved me . And It is awfully clear who just got the most devastating news . Like those were not equal , like they , they ratchet it up on that .

So I , so I bought it and I think Also , she's off somewhere sucking face with Nate I .

She's like damn right , i thought you was on Rebecca's level , but don't we ?

And you and I have a thing , and here's what This show always , especially in season one , it did everything that other shows don't do . So it's like if there's a generic response , it'll let you know .

It's smart enough to know what the generic response is , but never We talk about how , man , this movie wouldn't even existed if someone made a phone call Or if people How many scenes , like everything . The entire script of Downton Abbey was someone overhearing something at a doorway . You just go , oh my God .

So when you are smart enough to nod at those tropes but then make a different choice , you're respecting your viewer . And so for me , i thought okay , coach , i hear everything you're saying , and , boss , i hear everything you're saying . And the fact that you two are aligned does not surprise me at all , it's what our brand is .

I just would say respectfully I disagree And I would say it's a choice I really didn't like And I don't think it served the show in the long run , And that's it . That's all I'm saying . And now boss is agreeing with me . So what the fuck is up now , coach ?

What I really wanted to was to see Roy say , like I did something really unacceptable and I want to take responsibility for that And I'm sorry that I said that to you .

Tell me who you sent this to , and I'm going to go kill him . And I thought that that's the level of respect I have for Roy Kent , because I love Roy Kent . I love him And why would you do him dirty like this ? Like so , anyway , it doesn't matter .

If you go back and listen to our rapid response on this episode , which I did , we talk a lot about how the beats that they want you to feel for Nate are not aligned with how we feel about Nate , because we didn't see him take accountability for his actions , The things where we with Jack , where we see , OK , these moments with Jack or whatever , we don't see

any accountability . When you have a PR nightmare where Keely is caught in the middle , you don't even one time , not even one time throughout this entire episode and throughout this entire scenario where she is being mauled in the press . have her view . this from the perspective of a PR professional Like whose job it is to redirect nightmares .

Jack comes in , says babe in here . Jack says hey , how you doing ? Kili says better , worse , everything , which I thought God , it feels like I would really have liked that line in another episode . I was like God , better , because she's like better , worse . And I was like hey , yeah , yeah , she's like everything , i'm like okay .

I feel like this was probably a paragraph and they kept going that's not quite right either . But look , just listen to how they say better .

I'm like , oh , she's doing everything . Like I was like okay , whatever .

That's one direction , but the other is when you know that they are not listening at all And so they say the response to a different greeting .

We always used to make fun of him because people would say whatever they would say , it didn't matter what they would say . His name was Carl And they'd say , top of the morning to you , carl , and he would go good , good , and we were like what the hell is good , good , psycho , like okay , how you doing Carl , good , good , okay , it worked .

There you go Check , you got it right . Hey , how have you been Carl , good , good , good , good worked so much that he just used that was always good , good And funny , yeah , but that's the , yes , that's the . So I definitely know what you're saying there .

When Rebecca dies , i'm going to say it , that's what I say . So you know , i get it . Carl was like . It was like having all black t-shirts in your closet . Just simplify it Good , good , that's it . I'm on Carl's side .

Ah , okay , yeah , yeah . So now we're getting to the nitty gritty , right . Keeley doesn't waste any time And she says yet you had Barbara , give it to me . And Jack , operator , that she is smooth as hell , does not miss a beat . Well , i tried to pick the most sensitive empathy person I know . That is a very wow .

That is a magnificent line for a mustache-twisting evil villain to redirect the importance of a conversation right , like it really served to change . Like Keeley was like I'm ready for a fight , keeley was like I am ready , i'm ready to address this like an adult . And Jack really sort of changed the tone .

She is , they are across the table , so to speak , from each other And she gets , and Jack is like I got to get over on the same side of the table And she does it with the language and she does it physically . She's like I don't want to , i didn't come in here to be across the table .

Well , it's not active . It's active in that you theoretically have to deal with it , but it's now this nebulous shit that is the focus of the conversation and not the paper that I tried to have you read , because I'm a corporate goon . I'm sorry that you have to too .

Now , keeley is , as a natural giver and a generous soul , and as Glinda the Good Witch she is now . Yes , i'm also sad for you . Now it's tapping on the part of Keeley's personality that is kind and loving and generous and giving , which is most of Keeley , frankly , now they kiss again , a pretty decent sized kiss on the kiss meter .

That reminds me of Princess Pride . They have been five kisses in the history of time that were rated the most pure the most beautiful , whatever . There's not really a rating of kisses , but when I looked at the size of the kiss , when I looked at it , it was like okay , this is huh , all Jack has said is a joke about Barbara .

And then I'm sorry , you have to sort of deal with this shit . And then Keeley responds in kind . And then Jack remember we always say whenever there's real stakes on the line , jack moves in for sort of sex or something amorous , and Jack says how about ? for the next few hours we pretend that none of this should happen . And Keeley says what here , boss ?

really it was much more of like when we're in Amsterdam and Roy goes barreling off the bus and Ted's behind him in the seat making fun of him to beard , like I think , from I don't know the energy from Keeley . Yeah , you know what I mean .

Like that felt like the three of them are friends on , at least on some fundamental level , and she was saying , haha , yes , as I would tease Barbara herself , barbara can be a bit of a , you know , a stick in the mud .

I didn't think it was nearly as genuine from Jack , so I thought I think that's worth knowing they're together , but not really They're not doing the same thing .

That's fine . But I found really ironic is that Barbara was so much more sensitive in the situation .

Yeah , I don't think anybody matched Barbara on that .

My whole life I went to school with people who you you know their last names because they're the products in your kitchen And and like you just wouldn't believe the last names and like like .

If I add someone to my life , like I have a friend who said Hey , i'm going to help you take down the jungle gym because it was got old and it was kind of crappy and it was an eyesore , that helped me , i was like very happy to have this friend help me .

He's like a neighbor and and he just said he was over one day Said you want me to take that down for it . It's great , yeah , that's wonderful . Um , jack never has to worry about that . The jacks of the world , they , they are full on every single category . They don't have to be nice to their neighbor in order to have them take a jungle gym .

If they want a jungle gym taken down , it's as simple as a phone call to someone else who will make that happen . They don't even have to make it happen . They have accountants , but when they're in the womb , they have their own accountants . When they're in the womb , they have trust funds They have . They never have to worry about , uh , buying a property .

They never have to worry about um , can I afford this car ? They never have to worry about should I lease or or buy a vehicle . They don't have to worry about any of these things . Okay , so what they do have to protect is their reputation , because that is something you cannot buy . You can approximate the purchase of a reputation .

You can put yourself in situations , you can start a foundation and you can have a PR agent who gives you press for cutting the ribbon on a new , uh wing at the hospital or and we're talking about ultra wealthy .

We're not just talking about , like , oh , someone who's a new vorice and making money and their dad is , uh do , doing well as a you know , low end , uh local bank manager . We're talking about , uh , generational wealth . So for Jack , there's almost nothing worse than her girlfriend being the butt of salacious gossip .

That is devastating , and I'll tell you that it is totally unacceptable inside the places where , uh , you know the Kennedy compounds of this world , there would be a discussion and then the patriarch or matriarch would say it's got to stop And that's it . And this is how it happens .

I remember being in the Upper West side with one of my friends and he had , uh , his , his sister was just starting to be an actress , so she was getting these roles . This is fascinating . Um , she was getting roles in Whit Stillman movies .

I remember and , and the parents just didn't like it , they didn't like seeing this blue blood daughter working as an actress . And I remember watching them talk to her and say like listen , we're not , this is not what we do .

You know , we didn't , we didn't send you to the Sorbonne So you could parade around and get three lines in a in a Whit Stillman movie . If you want your own movie , we'll buy you the movie . We'll make you the director , we will , we'll get .

You know , harry , my friend Harry , that I went to Oxford with He , uh , he's a producer , he runs Paramount or whatever . I'll call him up . He'll give you your own movie . We're not , you're not going to be this low tier . You know , it's like , it's like an embarrassment for our family when they ask where , oh where is she now ?

Oh , she , well , she's was in this movie and they see that you're not a featured player , so we're not doing this . And I remember there's a huge fight . You know the daughter was right . you know righteous indignation and trying to make her own way and trying to not follow the tenets of of this type of society .

But for the parents it was inconceivable that she would do that . She wouldn't use her birthright and her advantages and all the things that uh had been decreed upon her by the good Lord himself and and uh , and the power of of , uh , uh , you know , an empty , uh , sort of never ending bank account and take her rightful place at the top of the pyramid .

So I bring this all up because when we sometimes look at the Jack character , we'll say God , what a jerk , what a jerk . But we may lose sight of the fact that she has all these pressures coming at her that are not shown on screen And they are .

I'm not saying that makes her a good character , i'm not saying it's something oh , we can really empathize poor , poor , poor , little rich girl . I'm not saying any of that . I think at least they , whoever wrote this , has a sense about those pressures . And they're not .

They're not maybe conveyed as well as we might hope because , um , as this goes on , we don't necessarily get to see the bind that it puts Jack in , which would , which would inform some of her later decisions .

And if you're a girl in the bathroom and some you know teacher administrator is getting a little too shitty with your friend who got busted smoking , you need to come on out of the stall and back them up .

And if , right , like , and if you're Rebecca and one of your players says , uh , yeah , I can't really work for this company because they're destroying my home country , you got to figure out what to do .

And I think , my , my , my great disappointment in Jack , you know , for all her , I don't care if people know we're dating , right , no-transcript , You do care , you have to care . And then just be who you are . Then , Like , tell the fucking truth . Like , you do care , you have to care .

And so I , what I found myself resenting about Jack was that she and I feel like I know other versions of Jack she gets to play both . She gets to . Okay , I'm gonna , she gets to . We had an awful , actually , I'll tell this one , then I will shut up about this . I was in Atlanta at the time . This is what I remember .

We were making dinner for two and Daphne took our child , who has done dance since the age of three , to dance . Our other child was in the car . At this point , let's say it's , they're like 13 .

And so this guy who favored red caps yeah , Brown skin person of color , but favored red caps decided , saw my son in the car and decided that my wife had a 13 year old , had irresponsibly left him in the car , which was so dangerous , so dangerous He's like in a covered parking area . This guy called 911 .

Like I literally said , if the burn , if the building is burning , save yourself , do not say shit to my wife . And so he , you know , i was like I was , i was Daphne was concerned , angry , like oh God , i lose my husband , i visit him through glass now , and so all this happens . And the school then you know , oh , we're so sorry all this bullshit .

So then , but they handle it horribly . Then , when the thing happens , during the lockdown now and we've got George Floyd , the school puts up like a black box . And I wrote and I I commented on their black box and I said keep this same energy when your clients are calling the police on black people for no good reason .

But when it comes down to it she's like listen , what ain't gonna happen is you ain't gonna fuck up my money . So we can be all cute and whatever here and I'll kiss a girl and I don't care , but you ain't gonna fuck up my money . And that burns me up Like I just go be about that then .

But don't pretend you're a revolutionary , don't put up the black box . And then next time you're getting resumes , go . I can't pronounce that name , i'm not hiring that person . Like I just can't take it .

i mean , come on , i can protect you , but not if you are sending videos to other guys , i could be there for you , but not if you are gonna fuck up my money . That's not a natural ally , That's a . you are vacationing here . You are a fucking tourist until you have to leave and go back to your safe house .

I can't def , i can't because you have a point You're like you're not necessarily wrong based on the what we're seeing here , and I'm not gonna pretend like those lines didn't come out , but I'm so mad about it , but there is an interesting thread it creates in that I'm trying to go through quickly .

So whether that's Jamie Roy , ted taping right out of the gate over her picture , nate deciding oh , you're being nice to me , i'll plant one on ya , jack , i mean , there's a lot of like yeah , i love that you're bubbly and free , but be bubbly and free for me .

This one is all about her having an enjoying sex basically Like that's the entire album And for what I've heard , it sounds great . So on the most recent album cover and with some of the album artwork , she is topless And God bless her for it . Like , if I looked at the way that she did , you would not get close on me , it would be impossible .

She looks great and I am thrilled for her . And there is a segment of Twitter that was saying like , oh , what does this mean ? that she's been pushed into being sexualized ? And I'm like , no , she's a 37 year old woman , she is not being sexualized , she is sexual and she is expressing that .

And so there's all this concern trolling , where it's like , oh well , what does this mean ? Is she being forced to do this ? And I'm like , did you ? bitch is not listen to pink , because that was all about having sex with women , like this is an evolution that she's been on . Yeah . So fine .

So it's not that she's being forced into it , it's that , oh well , we're concerned about what this means for younger entertainers that might feel like they need to be sexualized in order to be successful , which is fucking garbage , because 17 years ago , when she put out her first album , when she was 21 and probably was vulnerable to coercion by the entertainment

industry , she decided that she was going to wear only black and white tuxedos , reminiscent of her parents' uniforms when they were at service jobs , because she was trying to like interview to that .

She's not going to get big because she's not as hot as Beyonce and Rihanna or whoever else right now . That was a fucking shit . They told her 17 years ago And she's steadily been becoming more comfortable with her sexuality over the years To where , as now , she wants to have her tits out And now she's too sexy .

But the fucking problem is every goddamn step along the way she was either too hot or not hot enough . She got it from both sides every time that she did anything and she's getting more sexual than she should have been Or she's not as sexy as she should be , because society is not set up to judge a woman based on her actions .

It is just set up to justify the shitty treatment that we give her after the fact because of what she already did , like she's never going to win in these situations because that is not what we're going for You meant getting it from both sides .

That argument is valid wherever you put the line . It's going to fuck you over because somebody's going to be bitching that that line is wrong .

And it's 62 old men , old white men , and you're like what in the fuck am I looking at ? Like it's so crazy . But , boss , listen , coach is usually the one that gushes . But that was fucking beautiful And I loved every word of it And I might print the whole thing out and make a T-shirt .

And you're right , but it needs that sort of rage and that sort of ranting because it's exhausting . It's fucking exhausting , it's fucking exhausting . And when is it going to stop ? It's in many places . It gets worse And then you get some fucking fascist , neo-conservative strong man into whatever . And it's not listen , this is not limited to the United States .

There's a plague of fascists and strong men all over the world . And then they just go back and they revert as if the big problem is controlling women . Like , oh my God , it makes me physically sick . But that was beautiful , boss , that was beautiful . I almost don't want to have a podcast after that Because it was so good It might have been . I loved it .

I loved every word you said . Well , i think to .

Yes , that's what Jack is saying , that's what Roy is saying , that's what the people online who are , you know , oh , she just did it for money , she just did it for this , she is . That's what they're saying .

You did a thing , i had a reaction to you , and now I want you to be responsible for that reaction , and that's what all the cover up stuff is about , and that's what all like it's , it's , and you know , there's something to be said for being able to , you know , see Janelle Monet in a wet t-shirt and go on with your day .

So if we could just get rid of that first part where it's like , oh man , janelle Monet looks amazing naked . I am super happy . She wanted me to see that , fantastic . And then you just move on with your day .

it just goes back to that , that personal sort of choice thing where other people are trying to put limits on your own sexuality wherever you are in the world . And yeah , it's infuriating .

But we and I think , really opening up , i was working on designing a coaching thing for couples And what we talked about , what we kept saying couples , couples , couples , couples , couples , couples And then somebody said , well , what if it were a thumple who came to us ? And I was like , yeah , well , yeah , but we but you know what I mean ?

It's almost like flesh-colored band-aids , like we keep saying couples , and so we went back and we changed everything to relationships and partner or partners or whatever you know , because , yeah , like that's what we mean , but we just say couples all the time because we're just used to saying this .

I think constantly checking ourselves is also critical here , that we not get too comfortable And , as they say , break our arms , pat ourselves on the back , Just keep looking out , for where am I doing this shit ?

Now it's what I do . I pick listen . You always want to be the dumbest person in the room as a leader , so as we go back to the show , we got the line I bet she's a party animal . You actually have no idea , really . Oh yeah , and then we're out of the Jackie Keely scene . Now we cut to Ted reading in bed to Henry .

He is reading from Marcus Rashford's book The Breakfast Club Adventures . Rashford was one of the players who missed a shot and penalty shot , and Jason Sudeikis ended up wearing his shirt to the I think was the MAs , wasn't it With the players ? names on it . He did mention that Marcus Rashford is such a . He's the guy that I just love to watch play .

He's on the English national team . He also plays for Manchester United . He's 25 years old . It's really fun as a soccer player because or a fan of soccer , because there's such a great rivalry between France and England And France has this superstar . I'm going to say the name And I'm curious if either of you have ever heard of him . Do you know ?

if I say Kylian Mbappe , do you know who that is ?

And so if you're a Brit , you look over the across the channel and you say like God damn it , the French have this like generational superstar And he's only 19 . What do we have ? And Marcus Rashford came up through the system . And now it's kind of fun because Rashford Rashford is 25 . Mbappe , i think , is now 24 . So they're both roughly the same age .

But now the Brits have this equal super , this absolute , just So . He's a beautiful player to watch , he can strike , he's got great feet , he's got great . What's the thing I look at that ? you guys know . If you're a fan of this podcast , you know that I look at one thing when that happens first . That's it . I look at this Now .

Juliana reminded me of something that I want to bring up because you will be blown away by this little de factoid . Her and I were talking the other day about one time I was on the Pajama Writing Stash I still am and it was on the Pajama Writing Staff in the past And we had a meetup in Maine And there was this outdoor , i don't know . We were outdoors .

I brought Juliana And it was basically just a bunch of writers getting to know each other because you work together online but you don't know each other And it's just whatever . So it's weird when you finally meet people and it's great And , knowing that I am a huge fan of HIPPS there was this outdoor .

We went to this outdoor sort of seafood place , whatever , and they were playing music , whatever .

And I remember I was sitting with Juliana and Dan Hemmerer , one of the writers on staff , one of the best people in the world , and I was watching the dance floor and people were dancing And this one writer , who I didn't know all that well , was dancing and had the craziest hips just hips that were so oily And this person was moving around so well .

I literally made the joke . I looked at the hips of this person . I was like I'll be right back And I started to get up to go approach the and Juliana hit me and Dan said will you stop it ? And that person was boss .

But yes , boss , so congratulations on having tremendous hips . That's phenomenal .

I know boss hates the shades of the peerage and all the knights and bullshit , whatever , but there's this most excellent order of the British Empire . It's the lowest tier because you know , certainly you don't want to give him anything higher . It's just a football really . But there's like the MBE , the OBE , cbe and the GBE .

Gbe is like your knights and then CBE's commanders , obe's officers and then MBE's members . But he has been rewarded for his efforts to reduce child poverty . He's 25 years old And he wrote a children's book , the Breakfast Club Adventures , in 2021 . So am I saying that I want Marcus Rassford to marry my daughter ? Yeah , yes , i am .

And the worst part is , coach , remember when you told me you were like , oh , lebron , i found out on this show . You were talking about LeBron . We all love LeBron .

I didn't know that he married his high school girlfriend And Marcus Rashford was with his high school girlfriend until like a couple of months ago , and then he just broke in , I was like God , they were engaged . And I was like yes . And then they parted ways And I was like God it drags .

Clearly you have gone out into the world and you've seen whoever and you've decided no , no , no , this is my cup of tea , whereas I think sometimes it feels other ways . People tell the stories like oh , you never left the square you grew up in And so you don't even know that there are the people out in the world you could be relating to .

Yeah , he reads a little bit in the book . We stop here for Cliffhanger . How was your flight out ? good , yeah , you know I have the most air miles of any kid in my school . That don't surprise me Things . Your school good . You and Doug back on track . and all that Doug , if you remember , was the student that Henry was bullying . We're about .

We're starting a band . That one strained credibility because I never hear about kids starting bands anymore . I just don't think it happens . But if it's starting to come back around , that would be really cool . I just never hear about kids . Don't do that .

My town we used to have , the one that I know of locally was in my town , tiny , little , nowhere town where I grew up in in Massachusetts , Wonderful town , but no one's ever heard of it .

But we had the guitarist from Extreme , nuno Betancourt , who would just play his guitar in his garage and everybody would go through and listen to him And then he ended up doing it . So whenever you hear people starting a band , you're like , oh , it feels like something that's anecdotal to Gen X or even millennials .

I don't feel like as much Once you had the advent of social media . It's like , oh , should I start a band or should I just watch TikTok for a while ?

And I'm like I've never seen anything like it . It just shows up in my feed And I go , holy shit , oh my god , it's tremendous . So , yes , right , you can get access to people all over the world . Well , he says what instrument are you going to play ? Drums . Your mom's going to love that . Dave Grohl learned to play drums and pillows .

We don't tell your mom that right away . Now we have generic dad stuff . You get homework done . I have to , or I can't watch TV . There's this beat here , coach , where he's like of course , you know how it goes homework , dinner TV time . Did you have the sense that that was a Ted and Michelle creation , or was that a Michelle rule that Ted learned ?

That's how their house worked .

It's totally fine , nothing wrong with that . I think it's great . It's good to have people in your life that are excited to be around you , especially if you know it's someone who makes your mom happy and all that which he seems to do . You guys get along all right And he looks and Henry has passed it .

Oh , and then he chides himself and says come on , man , i almost wish , as the only member of the team here who has been through this and had children and they've gone to another house and you have to have silence in your house after never having silence in your house , it's a terrible thing . But if it's the division , how do I say this the right way ?

There are times where you're supposed to run things by your co-parent . You're supposed to be like hey , i'm starting a new relationship , here's why I was going to . But if both parties are not mature , especially if one feels wronged , they'll use all the basic rules to stick it to the other party .

And so the net result of that is Ted doesn't know , he doesn't have a working , functional relationship with Michelle in the same way where he's like she did not tell him . Hey , i'm thinking about Dr Jacob , and what's your take on this . So Ted doesn't know the answer . He's sitting there . You wonder , henry has gone for a month at a time And he's gone .

Jeez , who is the influence in my child's life ? Because if the other parent is not properly up to date , then you don't know . In my situation I remember writing . I would write notes . I would say we did this , we did this , we did that , and I'd send it in my children's backpack , a little note for my ex , so she would know and could continue the like .

Ok , i would say , hey , we got ice cream on this day , we did this , we don't have to do that , whatever . But I wanted the kids to feel some sense of continuity . And then in court that sort of thing was thrown back in my face like I'm being controlling . I was like , oh , i was just trying to communicate , but this is the kind of thing .

And I remember my lawyer saying yeah , you seem a little crazy . People don't do that . I'm like all right , like I'm trying to be a OK , you know what I mean . And the judge didn't like it . And so I was like , oh wow , like I was just like all right , i was just trying to do that communication Because I know how it feels on the other side .

But it doesn't . It's just a very weird dynamic And it's tough because Ted doesn't know if Jake is reading to him And now he doesn't have a sense of it And you hope that he could ask Michelle .

But in the fact that Michelle hasn't talked about this or she hasn't been forthcoming with this type of information , he just sort of ends up this very low key questioning of Henry and kind of hates himself for it .

But I think he you know , like just I guess I know the feeling of when you want to know something , just because you want to know it , And oftentimes that is a signal that I should leave it alone , Because the only reason for knowing it is because I want to know it .

Maybe it's not my business , But this is kind of his business , right , And who's around my kid ? And so it gets complicated , Which struck me here . Oh sorry , Yeah , Because it's a difficult situation .

You cannot fool them , i promise you . They know it , they can feel it , they understand it on a primal , like biological level . So I love that . Ted says it's totally like , does he read you this thing ? It's totally fine , nothing wrong with that . I think it's great . It's good to have people in your life that are excited to be around .

If I had to tell you how many times I said this about , you know whenever my ex would bring somebody new into the equation because your children feel like they're cheating on you if they like the other person And you don't want them to have that feeling . I keep saying listen , not keep . But once upon a time I would say this is great .

This person obviously has great taste , because I'd want to be around you too . So I think this is wonderful And you should take advantage of it . You should never feel like you're hurting my feelings . You should never feel like , oh , if I'm nice to this person , it doesn't mean I love my dad anymore . This is not .

These are not the same thing , it has nothing to do with each other .

Like , wherever you are in this world , i want you to feel joy and happiness , and if someone besides me is bringing that to you , that's a good thing , that's not a bad thing , and never , ever feel like it's harming me at all , because what I'm rooting for is you having the best life possible , with or without me , and so I loved that .

Ted said this And I think it's really important And I think it's something we gloss over and we don't talk about . And when I got through with my divorce , i thought I had that feeling like maybe I'll dedicate the rest of my life to helping people get through divorce because mine was so bad .

It was like that thing where I was like I felt a calling , like , oh man , i should , just because I made every .

There's all these mistakes you make and you don't know , and it's this weird thing where it's emotion but it's also law , and I'm like , oh , it's like it's just this terrible , very , very difficult thing to navigate , and I know we have listeners out there who have gone through this and are going through this .

There's single parents out there doing the best they can . There's just a lot of people who don't . They don't know necessarily . There's no script and there's no real good book about this . So I think it's really great that that Ted mentions this as part of the conversation .

Unfortunately , henry is not awake to hear it , but I did want to call out that I thought it was very mature and there's a right choice for Ted .

So I think actually that's interesting to me , that they consciously show where , when he disconnects some and Henry , it's almost like Henry can feel it and Henry reacts to it Like you're saying , has that natural reaction to it .

I'm impressed that with what you said to your kids about divorce Cause I said , if I should ever not be with your mother and she brings another dude around , put bleach in that motherfuckers water . Obviously , i mean , what are we talking about here ? I'm your father . You goddamn ingrates .

happy . I wouldn't say that it's the same dynamic across feeling generally come in the other way but that's okay . That's okay . That's like everyone's got to make their own sort of sort of make their own bed And you just want your kids to get as little friction from it as possible because they're innocent . They didn't , you know they didn't .

Well , it's hard enough to not have your parents love each other anymore . And you know , especially in our family , we have a mixed family where my children with Juliana are in the same house as my children from my ex-wife and they see the difference And and and . When we talk about it we go okay , like here .

You know , because there's a difference , it's just sort of a different feeling And it's hard . The whole thing is hard and mixed families are very difficult And , like I said , i really appreciate Ted trying to vocalize this as part of the conversation .

And that's why I said come on .

This is another one of the instances where I'm not sure why they decided to have Michelle dating their ex therapist . I don't understand that choice . I feel like if there had been any man that Michelle brought around Henry without cleaning it with Ted first , it would have created this friction that he would have needed to deal with .

I want to imagine that the additional betrayal of Michelle dating the therapist would have led to something , but I'm not sure that it does . I don't feel like we ever get any resolution on why it was this guy And it's so out of step with the rest of the show in terms of it's absolutely against all professional standards for Jake to be dating her .

The law in Kansas you get your license revoked if it's within two years of seeing them . So even this timeline is fucked up . It doesn't make any sense . It doesn't work , All of those things . The fact that Ted is trying to address it in the way that he is only highlights , for me , the point that having him be .

Dr Jake the therapist was a wasted choice And I don't understand it .

But I see and this is a trade-off , obviously , as we've discussed in some other places if you're doing the other things you're doing , you don't have time to mine this and have it be three seasons and and , and and and . They did like the degree of difficulty keeps ratcheting up around this .

You could have , you could mine that for a ton of comedy , And Henry loved him . You could mine it for a ton of comedy and a ton of reaction and a ton of fun without it being like , oh , now Michelle is like a literal bad guy . Dr Jake is the sheriff of Nottingham , you know , and Ted has been victimized by this .

Because in the long run again , I don't love the choice of Roy saying who was the video And I don't love the choice of this being Dr Jake , Because in the run of the show , what real difference did it make that benefited anything , or illustrated anything But in terms of the problem you have to give that character .

So like mechanically , i think if you just make him , if you just make him that he's charming and whatever it's like , get over it , ted . But I think everyone understood watching why he needed to have a talk with Michelle about this move and he needed to be able to express his displeasure .

So I do think , like , functionally , in terms of Ted's journey , certainly through season three , if not the greater journey I don't want to reference something that happens later , but I think if he needs to be able , when someone does a thing that is out of line , he needs to be able to say that wasn't cool .

I thought it was Keely and Roy , and Jamie was like a little boy that was like friends of Keely that she cared about , but he was not in the running to be part of a . so that was it . So you're saying , oh , this is something really irks , roy , but I'm like I didn't , since when ?

Only because you chose it Only for you , i don't think he was that worried about Jamie . He had already got Keely . They were like a , i was sure , like , say , mid-season and season two , like this was it . One of the things I thought was a foundational thing we could count on was the Roy and Keely relationship . It looked awesome .

She loved the little things about him , all the right things , you know . When they first got together and he didn't tell her where she was , where he was , and then he finally told her oh , i go with these women and we do yoga and they don't know who I am , And that was where he was .

She thought he was out cheating And she's like , oh my God , like , this is a completely quantum difference from everyone else I've ever dated footballer , footballer , footballer , right . And then you have these beats about her masturbating . He goes what are you masturbating to ? It's him being gentle and vulnerable , right . So you're like , oh , this is tremendous .

Whatever they have cooking is what I understood this to be an iconic relationship in terms of what the show thought a great relationship should look like . Ok , and then now we're introducing oh , this is actually a love triangle and it's , you know , even Steven between Jamie and Roy .

So I think I don't think it's a matter of because , even when she tells him that you know , jamie told her she's not like . Jamie told me he loved me and I don't know what to do . You should probably pack your shit so I can make a decision , or Jamie's coming over , the three of us are going to be in this photo shoot , right , but he still gets mad .

So I think I buy I guess I buy that there were , there could , even after he does the work that it seems he's about to do that there could always be a part of him that if he could rewrite you know the history of the world he would edit out the part where Keely and Jamie were a thing .

He was worried that Dr Jake was always on Michelle's side And now we see that through a different lens . I understand that .

I think if we're going to make the argument that this was going to be the thing that tips Ted off , we need to acknowledge that the reason it tips him off is because he's never been good at directly addressing people and directly confronting issues that he's having To the point that the reason Michelle met Dr Jake is because he was her therapist , who she was

seeing because her husband had unresolved issues He was seeing because her husband had unresolved issues with his parents .

Like , i understand why it would be that Dr Jake would tip Ted off , but if we're going to put that onto the scales , the opposite side of that is , ted has always been so bad at this that Michelle couldn't talk to him about his issues with his parents . She had stopped somebody else .

So even now Ted trying to talk to Henry about what's going on at home feels like another instance of him failing to do the thing . Yeah . So I think it's bullshit that Dr Jake is dating his parent patient . I just think that there's a lot of context to it when you pull out and realize how everything was set up the way that it was .

And then she says double thumbs up And yeah , so , ok . So there you go , leon's . He looks happy as he stretches . And that's it Where there was a I mean pivotal . I don't know if it's specifically Emmy worthy , but it is very , very important to know that Nate's emoji game is on point . We got we cut now , so it has made you so irritable .

We cut back to Keely and Jack . It's funny because I joke about , like OK , they didn't have enough footage to whatever . It's fine From an editing standpoint . It's like , ok , this didn't do a whole lot . You know , from the like we're not removing a lot of plot points forward here with the Nate thing .

But also , if we couldn't have , we couldn't just not put anything in there because you know , it feels like we've been too close . There's too much Keely and Jade time cuts without more things going on , so they had to sneak something in . So yeah , we go back to Keely coming in and waking up Jack .

She says good morning And boss , can you take it from here ?

Julia Roberts did not have the gloves . Keely says what do you think ? And Jack says you look incredible . Keely said I mean nothing but the best for our dear uncle Bernie right ? And Jack says shit , babe , i canceled that . I just after the whole thing , i thought you wouldn't want to be around a bunch of press and cameras . I'm sorry , i should have asked .

I thought I was doing the right thing .

Yeah , you want to be out there at a fancy polo charity event with a bunch of big name people To show the world . I am not ashamed and I'm not going to hide because of this .

My new girlfriend is right , I spilled something on my new girlfriend And so she doesn't want to show her off anymore . I don't buy for a second . Maybe she can convince herself or that , But I don't buy because of Jack's behavior that the decision to not go was about Keely's feeling uncomfortable .

Oh my god , she goes . Well , keep the hat on , but everything else is definitely coming off Again , jack pivoting to definitely needing to make it sexy rather than anything else , and every time she does this , it reminds me that Jack had already planned when defacing the Jane Austen book , had already understood that this relationship would not last .

Correct , that's fine , that's fine . That part I don't have a problem with . I think more people should be like hey , listen , we are not long term , but we might have a lot of fun right now and we should be respectful and nice to each other and treat each other well regardless .

However , already planning a way out while you're in the middle of the relationship seems weird . It seems to me that Jack is significantly less serious about this than Kaley is , which makes Jack's love bombing all the worse , because what the fuck are you doing that for then Why are you making her fall in love with you if you're not planning on being ?

This is very rare . Rare for coaches to be able to unplug this way . Henry and Beard react to the oyster comment Nobody likes oysters . Well , how about the world's our shrimp cocktail ? They both say great . Ok , all right , coach , what are our options ? I really love this . Go ahead , boss , you got to do this one .

We can go to some museums . We can rent a boat , float down the Thames . They spell it weird , but it is lovely . Henry says what , coach ?

And Bill and his all heck Okay , coach , we got into games in town today . And beard , there's one . Well , there you go . And beard says but I'm going to have to stop at home first . And what does he need to stop at home for , boss ?

the club's nickname is an association with the Thames Ironworks and Shipbuilding Company , whose workers formed the Thames Ironworks FC . So , yes , the West Ham are known as the Hammers or the Irons And , interestingly enough , henry has a West Ham jersey on which I was like man that is . that is an act of love that Ted bought him that , or maybe beard .

I don't know who bought him for him .

Ted and Nate both wave and Ted shrugs like oh , here we are . Beard remains stoic behind his shades , arms crossed , doesn't give anything away , but Nate does not wave . I'll , dr Sharon Fieldstone Boy boy . This coach castles didn't have a problem with people not waving . Just honestly , you know what ?

It's one of my big things on a daily basis in life when someone lets you in and you're driving , just wave , wave a thank you . When I let someone , i pause to let someone in and they don't wave , i go . This is right out of the show Patriot .

Cool guy or douche is the app everybody needs And I know people have not seen the show Patriot , but they were spitballing different apps that everybody needs And one of them was a fake app called cool guy or douche , where if you're approaching and about to make a decision about whether you should let someone in , it will tell you if that person is a cool guy

or douche and then you don't let them in because they're not going to wave . They literally say this in Patriot just to wave . Is it that hard ? Just one little wave .

So I just thought , you know , come on , nate , like just even if you think they're messing with you , like are you incapable , really , like you don't ? surely you don't think that Henry's in on whatever the plot would be . So just be nice to me Right , right .

So for us as watchers I believe we're on the he's still a shit . He's not a good guy , right now .

I mean , we see some different pieces of it , you know , and so I wonder if that's the reaction we're seeing . So we're getting the react to what he did , which is naturally what we would do , but in terms of the Nate story , is he like , oh God , like I'm being ?

I'm now being faced with this awful thing I did And , to make it worse , they're being nice to me . I mean , it's a little bit like Jamie when Ted was talking about him and saying , oh , he's a great kid I hope he's doing well . Sent him to the little army man You know what I mean And he's like Oh , he's fucking with me .

He's actually not Like I think that's what's hilarious about these moments with Ted that people you know , even Trent Crimm to some degree thought he was being fucked with . Oh , it just so happens that we're going to the school . Like . Ted is actually that good And it really throws people for a loop because they can't even conceive of it .

I mean , we've all known people like that . Right , Like you suspect that because that's what the fuck you would do . That's why you think there's a scam or you think this , or you think that because if you were in that position you would do some shit like that . But Ted's not doing it . Ted really is . Kid wanted to see the game And guess what ?

My kid wanting to see this game is more important than how I feel about Nate or West Ham or anything else . And it just doesn't even enter some people's minds that that could be the case .

I'm like , oh , this is the whole thing . You know , i was trying to look it up .

And you know this has been an ongoing concern in the video game industry about the representation of women in video games and how they're portrayed , especially when they're main characters , because you'd have like Laura Croft and she's like a super , she's like Indiana Jones , it's like , oh , why does she have to be ? you know like 91% skin . You know like .

you know , would she cover herself up ? Well , this is not a new thing . Wonder Woman , her outfits , we're talking about the posters of female characters where the dude is standing chest forward , guns in the air , whatever , and the female character has to stand in that shot , the TNA shot where it's .

here's my ass and I turn so you can also get the side of my boob like the tits , the T in the TNA And you go . why is she standing like that , like she's just stand same as the dude ? You know like .

so in 2015 , un Special Envoy on Child Protection urged the country of Japan to ban sexual images of children in manga comics , saying that the media has a detrimental effect on children worldwide . It's things like that There are . it's not like a tiny little thing , it's a known quantity .

And I just saw Keely in this outfit and I'm like God she's sometimes just has that . you know , it's like she it's . I don't know what it is , what they do with her .

I was like and I think they know this because they played into it as we go forward What were we going to say , coach ?

I mean that's a . You know , when you start thinking about the implications of that in a world that brings us , you know , r Kelly and a bunch of other shit like that . Yeah . Maybe , maybe we could go easy on the like ooh hot , ready for sex , 16 year old . Maybe that's a thing we can kind of let stay in our past .

It's really destructive to Asian women And and it's not limited to Japanese women , It's worldwide Asian women And and you just feel like , oh God , enough , like enough with this .

So some sectors are listening , But when I saw this , I was , I thought I just had that , especially with their toes together , it was no big deal , But it's like that kind of stance that you often see in anime .

I I'm not blaming it on Gwen Stefani , but I do know that in her just a girl video there are parts where she stands with her toes facing each other and heels out pigeon toad in order to convey awkwardness .

And this assumed sort of I'm just a girl , i'm little and vulnerable and I don't stand right And I might be hunched over because I'm a little bit weird and awkward . And then this somehow became a thing that girls replicated unironically .

So there were girls in my high school that , in order to be cute and attractive and maybe even a little bit sexy , would sort of like stand hunch sideways with their toes in And I'm like that is a walking developmental dislay , delay , like you're . You're walking wrong , you are making yourself walk wrong in order to be attractive , and I don't understand that .

And I used to have to wear special shoes . This was like shows you , like the kind of a humor group around . So I used to have to wear these like dress shoes . I generally wore dress shoes , unless it was the day for gym .

So I'm in elementary school and I'm in the bathroom and this kid comes in and he says , oh man , look at this dude with his hard-boiled shoes . And that was the official end of me wearing those dress shoes to school . And my mother was like oh but .

And I was like I do not care And I will not wear them , Like it was the first , like I am an independent being and you cannot send me to school in these hard-boiled shoes anymore . So , for those who are wondering , I was very pigeon-toed and I was , in fact , like Jamie , it turns out , a sexy little baby . Yeah definitely .

Yeah , you had to do it , oh God . Yeah . I don't have the stomach for it . I'm sorry , coach , but you're a fast runner now . That's great , True true , it works .

In this scene Keely says holy shit , as Jack probably drains a long ball . I don't know . Jack is in Don Johnson's Crockett gear from Miami Vice . She's just got the old blazer pants combo . It looks like no , no , i don't know what's going on there . Is there no bra happening there , bob ?

Oh Yeah , oh , you just bought this whole charade here , coach .

Definitely , and I reckon the dinosaurs are much less handsy . I know that's actually true and it makes Gross .

So for years I used to bet the Kentucky Derby as close to sight , unseated , Maybe I'd catch something on like sports center saying whatever or some local news , and I just pick a horse and bet it , just kind of like thinking of my dad . So one time I had a football game coach And so I asked my sister . I said it's an OTB .

This is how long ago this was . I was like there's an OTB down on Flaps , do me a favor , here's $20 . Go put $20 on this horse . And then she told me the story of going to .

She went in there with her friend we've all known each other as little kids And she said it was like the scariest dungeon of these , like broken down , old , smelly , maybe drunk , maybe this is just your permanent state now , men . So I always think of that piece .

But yeah , when Triple Crown comes along , i know more about the Triple Crown than we're not Triple Crown , yeah , Yeah yeah , you got Kentucky Derby , you got the weakness , you got your Belmont Steaks .

We are in the middle of this scene talking about handsy people , and I'm going to stop us here and I'll tell you why Because I have to get my daughter to a Girl Scout troop meeting and I don't want her to be the last one to make it and then have to walk in and have the social anxiety of walking in late to the Girl Scout meeting .

So I'm going to , i am going to call an audible and pause us here and I will say that if you want to find coach , you find him at the line performance and you can find all the details in his in the show description . If you want to find boss , she's still at Twitter if you need her .

That's true , and she will be also writing for the antagonist where she's coming with something of a contrarian form . I will say once again to thank everybody , to protect your local libraries and support them with all you can , protect the written word And I will say until next time we are .