Ted Lasso | S3 Ep12 Part7 "So Long, Farewell"

With me , as always , is Coach Bishop .

I'm hopefully am going to continue with the deeper tone I seem to have struck because of my illness , so I'm just going to be down here in this register .

This is our identity . We are the team that's admired in mediocrity , so may suggest that maybe they , you know , grow up and raise a family , which semi horrifies all three of them , certainly , but Paul to be sure .

You know you will find something that changes your course . Holy shit , that happened to me . You get to the lightning mountaintop and hit by lightning . Okay , good , all right , if I'm ready for it , then what ? Well , then , you'll figure that out . What about if I'm not ready for it ?

Mm , hmm , okay , all right , moving right along , we have , of course , oh , back in the United States . Who is getting ready to watch here , boss , oh ?

But it is a very common refrain from people who have grown up on basketball and football and other sports where there's a tremendous amount of scoring Sometimes . Sometimes you get a nil-nil tie in soccer and you go oh my God , that was like one of the best games I've ever seen . But you have to be passionate about the sport for that to be the case .

And even when you are passionate , it still kind of sucks at nobody's .

Therefore it is stupid or it is boring , rather than I find it boring and it really makes me want to rip people's throats out Like I just I'm like using the other sports because I know them better .

I was just listening to a podcast and I thought my head was going to explode because this guy was fully making the case that any and all safety rules , everything should be . There should be no thought given to how much it benefits the offense .

So there's like a certain kind of tackle that people are talking about now because there's always something people have to be making a fuss about . And he was like they should just outlaw it . And I'm sitting there going . So how are people supposed to tackle each other in a game of tackle football ?

And his react , his case on the podcast was oh , more point , that's what people like , that's what the NBA gets . Now there's 150 points . I'm like well , that may be what people like , but when I watch that bullshit , I think I wouldn't put a fucking seventh grader on the floor playing defense like that . You goddamn jokes . That's what I think .

They've been up , they've been down , mostly down , and in the club's history they've never come close to what they could achieve today A Premier League title Fate is not entirely in their hands . Their adversaries in Manchester have the final say .

But the Richmond faithful are here to applaud their team for what they've already accomplished and see if this miraculous season can become transcendent . And so yes . Then we see a series of people getting ready for the game , a little montage and then coach walk us into the Diamond Dogs . It's well , can't be . Diamond Dogs Is Diamond Dogs here .

Technically , the door is open , so I think it's just not yet it is the members of the Diamond Dogs , but it's not an official gathering quite yet .

So , first of all , two years ago we played so bad we had to drop down from the Premier League to a lower league called the lower league . That was called the championship . They respond See , that don't make . No , that don't make sense , which I'm kind of with them , but you know all right .

Now , this year we played so well , we qualified to get into another league , and that one's called the Champions League Entirely different league , pretty much the same name , though . That don't make sense . And now y'all are telling me that to get into the Champions League you can finish as low as fourth place . That don't make no sense . Why ? I enjoyed that .

I feel like a standup comic wrote that , because that is just the kind of dog with a bone behavior around the premise that I feel like a standup comic would provide . So they're all going for it . And then we get the clear answer is everyone sort of wonders and thinks and tries to play with the language and Roy says money .

Okay , see , now that makes sense .

I don't know , there's more , there's more to that , I thought , than in some of the other . You know we're glossing over this stuff , but we did see that helmet to helmet moment with with beard Nate . That was , was very powerful , except for boss .

I wish that they had had more time to differentiate between first season Nate drawing and developing and becoming a new not a new character , but developing aspects of his personality and returning to form while still knowing that stuff , like I understand what his journey sort of was internally .

But it does feel like there's a little bit of he started the beginning of season one being shy and unable to talk to people as a kit man and now he is shy and has difficulty talking to people as an assistant to the kit man . So he had a lot of movement to end up in a very similar place , in my opinion .

There's a reason why his sister looked at his mother and said , oh my God , he's just like dad , who was also a big old weirdo and drew you a map . But no , but . But you know , I think that so like , I like that he has grown up some and there is a difference , but he is being himself .

Yes , no , and he was not being himself when he was being the manager over at West Ham . Yes , he was figuring out like how am I supposed to act ?

But I I think I'm so selfish in my desire for everyone to get along at AFC Richmond that I just kind of gloss over and be like , okay , nate's back , yay . But really I'm like like there was a .

There were so many points where I was like , yeah , I don't , I'm good with Nate not being back , like after the call and speech , after bloodstain and you cover bloodstain and some of the other , when the person didn't say hi , good morning , coach Shelley , and he didn't say hi , I'm like God , like okay , like that can also be you not know .

And listen , I don't want to dwell on Nate , God knows , we've spent enough time on Nate this this season . But I think the more important takeaway is how much , how nice it feels , to which this is something that Higgins sort of reflects upon right here . And what does he say , coach ?

Why don't I step out and let you guys have proper reunion , to which Ted says what boss ?

Now I'm going to wear this suit , just like I wore the suit Ted gave me till . They embarrassed me for that . I think that was a costume . As much as the other suit might have looked silly on them , it was a costume . So I think he was playing at being this other kind of guy and just like you know .

And then , you know , got to the bar and realized oh no , I want to be with my girlfriend , not with these two women whose names you are confusing . So I think that's relevant to part of why they went with this .

I agree with you that it's a bit extreme given what we've seen out of him , but I think that's the way it landed on me is that now he's going to be himself and share his football knowledge , you know , and do all that from as Nate , though not as his picture of what it would be to be a powerful gaffer .

I think we really want him to be , I think we really want to get back to the . You know you can never go home . You never go home again , coach , and we really all want to be in season one , but why did he weep ?

So he is all of those things and I don't think we can cherry pick the good ones and leave the bad ones out to make us feel more comfortable about it . I think he is the product of all of those things . Boss , what do you think ?

Like we think of ourselves differently from what we do sometimes Everybody does . We protect our own egos because only you know all of the crazy shit that goes on inside of your head , and so we do need a way of sort of rationalizing our own worst thoughts by saying well , that's not really who I am . That's just sort of the thing that I thought .

I think that the bigger issue is that doing good things doesn't negate the bad things , like you need to actually make up for the bad things in order to negate those .

I'm going to leave this guy a sprig of whatever you would call it of lavender and set up the locker room so that he knows that I know that I was an asshole and I'm sorry about it .

You would say that child got upset , didn't manage their emotions appropriately , and now look what they've done and you could show them that like hey , is this who you are ? Like that you would want to destroy this thing ? No , that's not why . So you have to do some work to not behave that way . If that's not who you see yourself as being .

I think the fact that I think when he didn't wave to Henry , he wasn't like fuck that kid . If you go back , he's kind of like what should I do ? Which is also reflected in him wanting the text back . Hey , it's no big deal if Ted comes to the game , that's fine by me .

And then realizing like oh , I'm not allowed to say shit like that around Rupert and the human . I have to like fall in line with being a dick . So that's my point .

When my son was little , he was like four years old he went up to the plasma TV with one of those and he just went like this is tiny little puck and the whole thing shut and it and to this day we call him destructive and whenever there's a hammer near him , a hammer or a drumstick people slide it away as a joke and he goes .

I was four , like so yes , so I guess I am prone to to label people for for their past misdeeds . But but yeah , no , coach , you make . You make a great point and and I know that I guess we're probably saying the same thing in a different way I think you have to go through these things in life and it's not like any of us are perfect .

It's how you react to those , to those moments , and the the path you choose after that . And you know it is .

It is wonderful to you know , I don't know that without being excited about being a waiter at Taste of Athens and really digging his job and being like the best damn waiter that Derek's ever had , he wouldn't he would be able to be the best assistant kit man in the world . Like , like that part I can like , okay , like he's .

Just , you know , we've identified , like , whatever he does , he does it to to his best and now he's got the ability to recognize the importance of the team around him and and that he's part of something , and how important that that is , whether it's his father once .

Once we saw the montage of him patching things up with dad and then , you know , laughing at breakfast or playing cards or whatever it was the next day .

You know he now is part of something there , he's part of something here and he's part of something jade , and these are all things that he has figured out are more important than the amount of , you know , personal credit he gets . So , yeah , it's a , anyway it's , it's been , it's been a long road with date .

And then we get from the least likely human on earth to utter these words . Can I be a diamond dog from the great Roy Kent ? Stunning and okay , hold on one second Wait it's just singles of everyone .

Yeah , that's where I'm at , which was funny , and he had yeah , everybody's like yeah , of course , because this makes no fucking sense . I'm not fucking around here . So now it's like oh , okay , like yes to the fact that you finally want to be in , but also we respect that . It's time to get to work as Diamond Dogs .

Okay , diamond Dogs , mount up , let's go .

Boss , that was a hop from a better time , correct .

I'm not trying to say that that is unoriginal . What I'm saying is that this is part of the human condition , I believe .

You know , no , we get a different opinion from someone who has clearly changed over the course of the show . And what does Nate say , boss ?

I think that , in my experience , the issue is you do things in order to change , in order to become a different person , and then you become that different person that you now are , which is to say like , if I have been okay , sorry .

In March of 2020 , my work said we are going to send everybody to home to work from home for two weeks so that we could help the city of Chicago flatten the spread of COVID .

And that was three years ago when we haven't gone back full time to the office , and what I said in those two weeks was I'm gonna spend the extra time where I'm not commuting or getting ready for work , getting shredded like Sarah Connor from the Terminator , specifically Terminator 2 , let's get it out . Specifically Terminator 2 , I was gonna get that shredded .

I have not . I have not done that . I did buy the work out of equipment and I have , in small ways , improved my working out habits a little bit over time . But now , instead of thinking like , oh , I did get shredded . I think , oh well , now I'm a person that goes for walks more often , which is to say , like I changed .

I did change a little bit , but now I just am that person who goes for walks . I don't consider that me being different now , because now that's who I am , and so I think there's a little element of wherever you go , there you are , that you can update your habits so that you act differently , and then you become the person who does those habits .

Roy says I'm the same fucking idiot I've always been , to which Ted , right away , says I'm a greedy to disagree big guy . I mean , come on , man , he's piped up on an orange and finally has to become a diamond . No pretty big change , If you ask me , right , fellas . And everybody agrees . And what does Hagan say to that ? I'm sorry .

What does Beard say to that ?

We pivot from movies to Trent's hair , which is a hell of a leap , and Nate says , oh God , yeah , trent is shocked . Thanks everyone . Not at all , boring Grace Kelly's eyes the other side of the pillow .

Best we can do is to keep asking for help and accepting it when you can , and if you keep on doing that , you'll always be moving towards better .

Are they trying to be a perfect show or are they trying to be a good show that continues to get better ? And I think a more reasonable answer is that the second is basically all anybody could ask for .

And that's okay . People just continue to do their best . Sorry , I read that last line in Ted's voice , but that was Higgins saying the best we can do is asking for help and accepting it when you can . If you can keep doing that , you'll always be moving towards better . Coach , what is I mean ? They're sort of at this point .

You know this is , I don't wanna say after school especially , but it is a self-referential in the moment because they're aware , oh , this is ending and this is a big deal . Go ahead , coach .

But for the same reason that he could tell Keely , hey , a good mentor right , a great mentor expects you to move on , for the same reason that he could talk to Jamie and say I learned to forgive my father for who he's not and love him for who he is Throughout .

I've thought he's the moral guiding voice and I think as much as Ted says , I hope we don't get judged by our worst moments . That's one side of that . But I think another angle on that piece of information is all we can do is our best and if we just try to do better tomorrow than we did today , right . So I think that's true .

I think that's true in life , but I also think it's true in sports .

I'm sure I told the story before about the girls basketball team , my high school team . I was going to start the program , or I did start the program , and literally in our first practice , a girl caught a ball .

It was like all right , let's play a little and see who's who Caught a ball and just started running with it , and I realized that I needed to teach them that you're not allowed to do that and that you have to dribble to get from one place to another . Hadn't occurred to me to explain that in high school basketball practice , but that is where we were .

But what I then used to say to them all the time is , I told them where we would be in three years if they listened to me and did what I said . And every time we were doing anything it was like brick by brick . We're going to build this thing brick by brick , right ? And so they got a customer hearing that from me .

So when we played a team that had blown us out like 60 something , four , whatever the fuck it had been , eight or whatever it was and we played them the next time and we held them to 12 points in the first half my halftime speech you would have thought we were blowing them up , because my point was I told you we were going to build this shit brick by

brick . Now it's going to take you a lot longer to learn how to dribble , pass and shoot . That's going to take you to learn how to run this defense . I'm teaching you to drive people crazy , but you just held a team that scored 60 something points against you , and scored at fucking Will three weeks ago , to 12 points in the first half .

I told you we're going to build this thing brick by brick , and I think we can do that in our lives as well . So for me the message resonates and is very much in lockstep with everything we've seen , as we've been also told oh , these imperceptible . I'll leave the Trent voice to you .

All right , now we got to move him a little forward , like I think we've watched this happen throughout this entire process . That's what we watched happen was everybody get better and better and better , one step at a time .

The asking for help part presupposes a supportive crew around you , whatever that may be family , friends . Sometimes that's not the case and so then you can't . Anyway , whatever it is , I think it was probably a little bit overly simplified for my liking , but I did like that message came from . Boss is Smiling .

I'm not trying to destroy the last Diamond Dogs thing . It's so hard to make it all tied at , wrap it up in a nice bow . You know what I mean , boss . It's like what are you gonna ? You're gonna have the last Diamond Dogs . Is Roy joining the Diamond Dogs ? I mean that's like , how do you even ?

Well , that was a far off dream once upon a time , you know .

I think the other issue with this is there isn't any piece of life advice that hasn't already been covered , as far as I know . I'm not saying that there's nothing new , that there's no creativity or anything like that . I'm just saying that , like I don't know , man the gambler already told us that the best you could do in life is die in your sleep .

So do we need any additional advice other than that Like ? Either you come off being trite and cliched to an extent or you end up introducing a brand new idea that people are like well , what do you mean ? That the secret to life is worshiping the Gator Sun , god ? Because I am not familiar with this Like .

Either it's an entirely new concept or it's something that we've heard before in a different way . I think that they said it as well as it can be said , and so I'm happy with that .

And then you get there and you're like , oh wait , shit , I'm not happy . What the fuck happened ? Yeah , well , what happened was that thing was never going to be . The thing that makes you happy Like working on learning to become content is what's going to make you happy .

Obtaining a thing isn't going to do it , even when what you obtain is all over , even when you get to touch mat burning your shoulder at the national concert . Then the next day you discover that the set list from the Philadelphia show on August 1st is one of the best set lists in the entire world .

And then you're going to be unhappy that you weren't at that show , even though you have friends in Philly and you could have been there . So then you're going to have to just keep going to more and more shows until eventually the whole is filled . Eventually you'll get to the perfect set list and then everything will be great .

We have this sort of beautiful ending .

He's made his business to say I am not a part of it all and I think he is actually , in this moment , submitting surrendering that's the word I was looking for Surrendering to the reality , which is I can't just do it by myself and I do want and need to be a part of a supportive group , like you were describing that you would need around you to live this

way . I actually , I actually do want that , and that requires being the kind of guy who maybe you know , wears a red , orange and yellow tie-dye shirt because it's the right thing to do as a team member , not because it's your favorite piece of clothing ever , and you might have to do that .

And then sometimes you might just have to humble yourself and I don't know when he's going to tell them he got in a scrap with Jamie like a couple of seventh graders over Keely and then marching over to her house and gave her an ultimatum like a couple of idiots , or if he's ever going to tell them that . But on some level he realizes me .

Just processing this on my own and following my gut isn't necessarily going to take me all the way to where I want to go , or even on the path I want to travel , so we don't make it a destination .

Celebrate the imperfection and again , try to do your best in all things , in all places , and hopefully you'll be on a trajectory of growth . And I think that's generally what is said here .

Although it may be the least effective Diamond Dogs message or meeting , they say really yeah , I just think , like in general , like I think when somebody I don't know , maybe because they were pressed for time , it just was like real quick , like a listing off , a list of perfect things is probably less helpful as a you know like it's like okay , great , but that

wasn't . He's really saying like hey , man , I'm really low right now to the point where I've asked to join this ship of fools that I've always avoided . That I thought was really stupid and you know like I really need to help out and there was a lot of vagary and a lot of just a lot of platitudes without a lot of specific guidance .

But again , it's a TV show . It's okay .

If Higgins had all damn data answer him , I think this would still be Higgins response , but maybe you know I could be , I might be off on that .

Honestly , it feels like I have had the least insight into Roy's journey than anybody , in that he actually I was thinking the other day about how , at the beginning , maybe even middle of episode three of season one and it's to piss Jamie off but there's an extent to which Roy is already starting to buy in and that he says I don't know , it's the funniest thing

I've seen since stepbrothers , Like he was choosing to head side almost immediately .

But I never got the idea that he had any sort of deep seated damage that he needed to overcome , and so it came off to me as a I don't know what was happening with Keely or why he felt the need to push her away . I didn't understand the reluctance to join the Diamond Dogs , like what it was there .

If that was something about him or he's like I'm not a joiner , I'm not doing this . Or if it really was a , I'm afraid to let people in and so I can't connect with you guys . Like I thought that there was issues that he needed to work on .

I didn't see it coming from him that he would say like I'm still a piece of shit after trying to change after a year , and this is not what I expected from him .

About the you know , about the Jamie piece , or whatever , I guess , I , for me , that struck me as like that's the piece he has to deal with and why , like the ultimate crushing thing he could be told before they took those magazine photos was a hey , guess what Jamie still in love with me .

So I , for me , I was like , oh , this is like , this is the thing . I guess this is his . He really wants us to work and he's trying to figure out and you know , I'm not , you know , I'm a grown man , not a , not a baby , child or whatever he said , which I'll remember shortly .

So I think for me , this was him , this was , this was definitely a hurdle that showed up in different forms along his path dealing with this dynamic .

these different things that he's been through riding a bike , you know , coming to terms with you know , sort of sort of his gruffness . We never thought , oh , he has no emotional depth , because we knew about Janice and the yoga , the yoga ladies , and so we knew that he had the soft side and was was amenable to these types of things .

We never well , not never . He didn't play out in the same way when he was with the boys , kind of thing .

He had a horrible facsimile but he tried to create it and he wanted to talk about this perfect girlfriend of his . He's been waiting for this moment . Oh , there's life , apparently . So that smile is a real smile .

But one of one of the other most lovely characters in the show , rupert Manian , and Rupert is a full , full dark fader . At this point I just want to highlight oh , yeah , yeah , no , he is , yeah , it's , it's , yeah , he is , he's limping , he's got a limp full black . Attire you guys ready , he says .

And George says George , who's just man , he's a clever guy . Don't , don't you worry , I won't let you lose to your ex-wife . I mean , I mean your first ex-wife , I mean your previous , most recent , you know what I mean . Rupert says just beat them . And now we get the . We get a wonder of Rupert walking towards frame .

And what is the Arlo speech here , boss ?

So again , essentially well , who cares what he did in private , if his album still really rock Like hey , if he's still winning , does he not get ?

Every time you think you topple it pops up somewhere else to talk , like that .

It's when he comes into the , when he first arrives at the auction and steals the show , and Rebecca concedes Everybody loves him , you know , this is like his superpower .

And so when he walks into the room , he says ah , so this is where they've been hiding all the beautiful people and , of course , sycophants toast him and no one's going to say anything to his face . And then Rebecca and Sassy walk in Hello , rupert . Rebecca says , Rebecca , hi , sassy . Rupert says and Rebecca says something here , there's so man , it is .

So what is it ? What is it ? Coach ? She has come so far . She is so low . Everything is low key , brutal .

It's like you know , whatever happens today , a team you love wins , first of all , like with the shit he's got going on in his life , wow . And then also by extension of that , and you don't have to travel very far . Whatever happens today , motherfucker , you lose . Yeah , to me , that's how I took that .

I took it as whatever happens today , guess what you lose .

You create all of the bad luck that follows you around because you are an asshole . So it was a like . I think that there's a part of her that is genuine when she says either way , you'll have a team you love win . I just think that that is highlighted by the fact that his life sucks right now .

They're either going to disagree with you or me , because I thought she was just so past it that she was just being nice and saying hey , you like both teams and that's it . Because she doesn't have to have any interaction whatsoever , because she's got Obama's anger translator coming up after her .

She doesn't have to do the dirty work because Sassy's about to mop the floor with him .

You know she's trying to shame her at the barbecue sauce scene . You know like saying some horror , like you know I mean .

When it's presented right in her face that he's having a shitty week , Say like , oh hey , so you're having a shitty week . I don't think that she's going to put a lot of time or effort into being concerned with him . But well , I think I've mentioned this before . I ran into a guy that broke my heart in college .

I don't care about him anymore , but when I saw him I did call him the wrong last name on purpose , Like I don't think about him .

A woman like the Rebecca of today would never I would hazard this guess A woman the Rebecca of today at the end of season three of Ted Lasso would never be attracted to the Rupert of today .

But she , Sassy , heard the details of this from somebody and I don't get the sense that it's all from news reports .

She spent her adult life with him . It didn't work out , but I think she's got . You know , I think she feels like . I don't think she necessarily , I don't know . Again , this is , this is where people are going to be yelling at the screen .

I don't know if she wants to be the instrument of his demise at this point , as much as she wants to not be affiliated with him anymore and be able to just go on and do he's going to , he's going to continue to fuck up and I think he's a flawed person .

She knows that and she's happy to fly above it in a different plane of existence where she's trying to help people and be kind and do the right thing , because he was an anchor for her from a moral standpoint and you know she's past it .

I tell you right now , if I'm where she is with Rupert not necessarily like a divorce , but somebody who has caused me that kind of fucking misery . And now it's on Like even if I didn't participate in your demise , I very , very much appreciate box seats and I will watch that shit and eat my popcorn and just have the time of my fucking life .

I may not do anything to make it happen , but I'm sure it's not going to help you get out of it and I'm going to enjoy every goddamn miserable while I watch you go down Like that's just , that is that is truly me and I'm thinking about . And then that's true for me . Now I say it out loud that's true for me on a lot of fronts .

Like there's a quickly , there's an NFL quarterback who was accused of some horrific things like basically sexually abusing , you know , massage therapists . It was just hard . So he gets an all this shit and blah , blah , blah .

And another team comes along and gives him not just like a big contract , but like the biggest contract , like now people are talking about this as like the contract that set a precedent . Every other owner in the league is trying to make sure never sticks because it was such a and there's just all this man .

I thought like that's fucking horrible , like whether we think people deserve a second chance .

I don't think you should go from probably did some horrific , horrific shit to best paid player in the league , like somehow that doesn't sit right with me and so I have openly just wish tipped the fucking worst , and even in fantasy football I can say it now , so almost the end of the season , I try never to tip my hand on stuff like this .

But for I just didn't want anybody on his team , on my fantasy team , because I didn't ever . I thought about it this way .

I said I don't ever want to be in a position where I am , even indirectly , hoping for one good thing , like even if you just threw the ball to my player or you just handed the ball to my player or you just benefited from , I don't want anything , any good thing in your life to connect to the good things in my life , because fuck you .

I don't want any negativity , I just want I would love for everybody to do well , and if they're the worst person in the world , the best thing I could wish them is for them to turn it around and then become awesome and figure it out and get it squared away .

Now do I think it's likely ? To happen no .

So , but I don't want to wish anyone , even even the people I , even I , would say I don't want to be in your bed . It would make me feel like I'm being chased away . I I would say I do not want to be chased away . Bye , bye , bye , bye , bye , bye , bye , bye , bye , bye , bye , bye , bye , bye , bye , bye , bye . I thought I did . I thought I did .

I really thought I did . I will say that I do not like Mitch McConnell as a man . I never have , but when I saw him up there having a senior moment , I felt sad . I didn't feel like , yeah , fuck this guy , I don't have it in me . I felt like this is terrible . This is sad .

It's sad for everybody , it's sad for humanity , it's sad for everything that this is like elder abuse and , yes , he has left a wake of destruction In my opinion just my opinion . I don't I disagree with his principles and his what he's done for this , you know what I would . I perceive as as he has not helped the country and the world at large .

But I don't actively wish pain or suffering on it's just . I don't have it in my . I don't know what that is , but I'm happy , boss .

I don't like some aspects of his politics . I don't like shitty things he said in interviews . Fuck that guy . I fucking hate Tom Brady . And Castleton's response has been oh , he's just a schmock , don't waste your time on it . Don't waste your time hating him and I'm like it's not a waste , it just happens it has to go somewhere . I might as well .

To even like have that inside of me would be problematic , so I go all right , whatever , and it's not like oh , I don't get mad . I get mad all the time .

You believe in a great friend , um ? But I'll say , daphne and I have had versions of this conversation . It's funny to observe it because I was like oh , there it is , because you know , I can run a little hot from time to time , um , and Daphne's reaction is often well , this can't be good for you . You know , blah , blah , blah . I'm worried about you .

And I'm like , oh , don't worry about me , I'm good . Like right now standing here ranting saying that I'll kill that motherfucker . He come over here again . Oh , I'm Jim Dandy . The shit that I think takes days off my life is when I'm supposed to bite my tongue and not say that , or I'm supposed to feel whatever . I'm like . No , I don't feel that at all .

But if I hear that dude that followed Daphne from the park got hit by a bus , I'll throw a barbecue . Like I'd be . Like what are y'all doing on Saturday ? Like we celebrate , like fuck them . And it'll be from the heart , like I'll hire DJ , like that would be from my heart , yeah .

The only thing that I have sort of a hard line on is I will not judge somebody for having negative thoughts , even saying like fuck that guy , like fucking . I was thrilled when Tom Brady's wife left him . I was like great , you fucked up big and great and your supermodel life left you Great .

Um , I will never judge somebody for having those thoughts or saying those things . I think what Rebecca did in the first season that was bad was not wishing that , uh , rupert would get fucked with a broken cricket bat over and over again like a gift . And nor do I think that actively trying to hurt him was necessarily a bad thing . I was fine with that .

It was that she hurt Ted and the people around her in an effort to make that happen .

. When Sassy says I'm going to put on red and dance at your funeral like , oh my God , great , that was .

Like that is some cold ass shit to say to somebody . And I was like , yes , I am here for it . Great , he , he , but I but , and and I and I hear what coach is saying Sorry , grab .

This is that guy is such an asshole that me being such an asshole is going to be like hey , you fucking suck , you fucking asshole .

Um , I don't have any , you know , I don't know Tom Brady Uh , I don't know his wife or ex-wife Um , maybe it , maybe it's better for everybody .

Um , I uh , yeah , it's okay , it's , uh , I do think that , uh , what you're advocating is what I talk about all the time with the show , um , uh , that I love from Australia , which is , uh , mr , in between , where I talk , it's , it's , it's . You know , why are they ? Why are there so many assholes out there ? Because people let them get away with it .

Um , so , yes , it's , it's . I do understand that , uh , that philosophy and that point of view . Yeah , uh just takes , just takes a lot out of uh , out of people . And there was , there was one , you know , after my divorce I was very mad , I remember , and I was thinking , oh , I really didn't like my ex-father-in-law .

He funded you know many , many , many ways of trying to get to me and , um , and it was . Uh , I remember thinking I was like , uh , you know , like angry with him and oh , I'll do the thing with sassy , says , when he goes I'll be , and like I just ended up not thinking about it . And uh , you know , my , my , my , this is .

This is somebody that my daughter , uh , has a relationship with . It's her grandfather , it's like you know . And when she tells me , oh , I did this , and I say great , that's , you know , there's no , I don't just like whatever , there's no bad blood . Uh , I know there's bad blood for me . I know it goes the other way .

I know they wish , wish bad things upon me or whatever , and I go all right , well , like all right , but I don't actively . It's weird .

But you know what I'm saying , like cause I'm not saying you should act the way I act . I'm not even saying I think it's good for most people .

I would look , I'd be like I'm going 10 miles over the speed limit . I don't like I'm already speeding and you think you're going to tailgate me . I would instantly fuck with that person . I'd be like all right well whatever , I'd stop short , I'd go real slow and make sure they couldn't get behind . It was I would be like you're a dick , so fuck you .

I would , I would do something about it . Now I pull over and let him go by , cause I'm like I don't want you in my life . Go ahead , you must be . Maybe you have to get to the hospital , I don't know . But like I don't want , there is no , this is the there is no us thing .

And there's also like there's no time in my day for for I just don't care . Like , once you pass me , once I decide like , okay , I don't care why , you came up right on my bumper like a dick , it's a total dick move , but I'm just going to move over and get on with my life . And let you get on with your life .

Um , I never have to think about them again , whereas if I mess with them and they shoot me or do something stupid cause the world we live in is full of you know , at least in this country , you never know when you're going to bump into the shark . That way , um , I just go all right . Well , you know it's again . I don't know why .

I don't care enough to carry hate around . If I can help it and and if you were a shithead to me , the best thing that can happen is not that something bad happens to you in repayment for that , it's that you see the error of your ways and you get straight and you figure it out and you don't do it to the next person .

Um , so , and it's funny , what I've worked on with that and I'm much closer to where you are on that , which is like just just fucking go , like I don't have energy for this is that person did not matter to me before this moment and they're not going to matter at all in my life after this moment .

But I do think that there are people who are , either directly or to someone we love or whatever it might be , they act . What they've done does matter . Rupert fucking humiliated Rebecca . Then he went out of his way to try to make sure that she lived in that humiliation for the rest of her fucking days .

I mean we can all talk about oh , white knight and Ted , straight in the mountain saying he's going to throw the dart at him in a crowded room . He said to a woman he was married to I never thought she would fuck a whole foot Like I mean we can get in a slut shaming and all sorts of other conversations . That's fine . That is like out of line .

Doesn't even begin to run over that .

She tried to help his miserable ass out .

I think that what you're saying is it is even more vengeful for her to be so completely done with him that she is going to genuinely say good luck with both of you , and what I'm saying is that I don't feel comfortable making that sort of judgment on other people .

I have no idea what sort of attachment she has to Rupert If the way that she keeps herself happy is by having an attachment to the level where she's going to say , hey , fuck you , buddy , your life sucks right now and I'm happy about that . If that makes her good , then that's good .

Like , what I am saying explicitly is the version that you think is the most over . It is not necessarily the best for everyone . It is the best for you and for her . It might be something else and I'm not going to judge that .

No part of this was Rebecca attacking Rupert . No part of his current circumstance was she contributed to the whole thing . He tried to . Not only this , but after all the stuff he tried to steal Zava at the last second . And then she went and pulled a miracle , you know , pulled a rabbit out of the hat .

So she can , I think she can safely , um , uh , again , internally , if she ever had any doubt about what role she played in this , she can say all right , well , whatever , like I , I wash my hands of this , I don't . This dude is like incorrigible , there's no there .

Even even when I said don't do this here , whatever , he went and right and did it in me exactly in the same way and he got himself into this despite my warnings , despite me saying you know you're , despite me pointing out the pattern . We all talk about pattern recognition when it comes to coaching and therapy .

And you know , and he wasn't able to , to wean himself off of whatever that that need was or that that uh , you know personality defect was . So you know , it's okay that she's and that's again , it's one way , it's one way to handle it .

If , if , if she was sassy and she gave the speech that sassy did , it would be equally morally okay . I'm not making a moral judgment about it . I'm saying whatever she chooses is okay because she has , she's gone , she has gone past it . He's the one that has to cope with the results of his actions .

You know , like I'm saying , if you give the lines from sassy to Rebecca , I wouldn't think less of her , I would like probably laugh , I'd be like , okay , jesus Christ , yikes , you know what I mean , because they'd be equally .

And what I'm saying is , if what she wants , if her goal is I don't care about that motherfucker , but when shit happens to him I'm going to laugh in his fucking face then that is good for her . But what you have said in the way that you said it is the goal is to be over it .

You said however she gets there , however she gets over it , she should do .

She has an actual attachment to Rupert and I think she chooses , inside of that attachment , to always err on the side of kindness .

When she points out the point , the thing about how a child , a little boy , rose up and bought the team , when she says to him even here , I hope that you're a lucky man , whoever wins it , she's always saying even when he was trying to steal his oppa , she was polite and kind and not attacking him .

I need , in your personal opinion , you individually , you , coach Castleton , is it better for her to be over it than for her to have an attachment , positive or negative ? Which one is better Of the two ? Which one is better ?

Like , if there are ways in which I know for me it's better to have an attachment with somebody , a negative person , if I am not actively over it because I am thinking that person's a fucking dick and I need to remind myself that person is a fucking dick so that I don't get caught up in their bullshit , like even if what the attachment is is to keep them

at a distance , if I know that I need to think fuck Tom Brady , I hope bad things happen to him . For whatever reason it is that I can't get close to Tom Brady , that's better for me , and so what I'm saying ?

So I remember that that person's a dick whenever I see them and I'm saying , ideally I would craft my life in a way where I wouldn't see that person .

And part of what makes me so bristle at this is that for most of my adult , even teenage , life , the idea has been you move past your anger , you get over your trauma . You do all of these things in a very kind of Oprah-y way , like pop psychology told us .

You need to process through all this other shit and then get over it and be done with it and have a detachment from it . And I am saying I don't think that that's always the best way of doing things and I don't think that it's necessarily good .

I think that the idea of oh , I'm so past it as being always the mature , adult , better way of doing things is bad . If some people function really well in their anger , staying in their anger is emotionally and mentally healthy for them , and so I don't want to like I know that what you're saying is you personally choose to not be angry .

What I am saying is the idea of society that we have that being angry is a bad thing . Like we have the fucking anger management movement where we're like don't ever be angry and only be angry in these ways . No , like fucking , you get to be angry in any way that you want to , as long as you're not hurting other people . Being angry is not bad for you .

It is okay it might not work for everyone , but being angry is not objectively bad .

He respects it , like and that's exactly the word I meant and that's exactly the word I use he respects it . Now , should I be raging out where I'm like , well , what did I say ? Like , no , I got to work on that , how that gets expressed , where that plays out , how that plays out .

Those are all whatever , the fact that A , b or C happened and I found that unacceptable . And so I am angry , okay , like , just like , you know , if I was sad , if I were happy , if I were pleased , if I were proud , like , okay , so angry . And I guess part of why I jumped when you brought it there is .

I think this show , as I've shared , for me is all about how Ted goes about liberating people and complete with , you know , an art piece of a tattoo that covers the upper part of my torso that I'm about to get finished up , when I came to a place where I said and I actually have a talk I'm working on called Warrior One , which is Warrior WON , when I came

to a place where I was like , oh , I don't have to be ashamed of that part of me . Matter of fact , I kind of like that part of me . That part of me is kind of an ass kicker . Now we're going to stop using that part to argue with some dickhead who doesn't know how to merge , because why , like , how's the world going to be advanced by this argument ?

He's not going to learn how to merge because you yelled out of your car window that he's a fucking dickhead . So you're really just making noise and this is flailing about . But someone in my actual life or sphere who's done a thing or who I need to encounter , or who's done something to violate someone I care about or what have you .

I mean , there's a phrase you may be familiar with . This may be cultural divide time , but on site , that's some shit that we used to say . That means when I see you , that is a permanent warning .

On site , you're even to say what's going to happen , because when I see you is going down and I am perfectly happy to put somebody who deserves it on my onsite list . On site , but I could be in the middle of eating cotton candy with all my favorite people If I see you across the street .

I'm calling a timeout and it's going down and I'm okay with that .

. But in all seriousness , I do wish you the best because you're the fucking worst . Come on Richmond Like does she ? Does she lie ? Does she lie ?

Right , I think about your funeral every day . That's not something you say to a 17-year-old , because you're going to have to wait like 60 , 70 , 80 fucking years for that shit . But that is some shit you'll say to an old motherfucker , because sometimes , soon it's going to be your turn , but she has consistently been like that's what you don't want to hear .

That's why you're chasing all this young skirt all over the place , and I am going to take every opportunity to remind you that you are old as the fucking hills .

Never have , I mean , has I think about a certain person in politics , another person who I really , really don't like , and has anyone ever gone up to that man and just said has he ever heard this out of someone's ? I mean , if he has , I'm sure he wouldn't believe it , because that's what narcissism is .

But still , you just want these people to , people that constantly do harm , like Rupert . You want them to get there . Come up and share .

Oh , I will stop just about anything I'm doing to watch somebody chip , chip , chip , chip , chip , chip , chip , chip and get knocked the fuck out . I just love it . I never get tired of it . It should be a category at the Oscars as far as I'm concerned . It's so good .

It's like look at you talking about some pretty liberal minded peoples , but you're talking about a pacifist , and then you see a Nazi get punched and it feels like , oh man , whatever , I really get it . There's some horrible people in the world , but now they have social media to extend their platform and you go .

Oh my God , it is a nightmare , but I always lament whatever . We don't have to do all this , I just always go . God , how did this person , where'd you come from ? How'd you get this far ? How'd you get this far that anyone would listen to you ? And then the fact that I know that the punch or whatever is just going to embolden them .

And then now they get to play the victim card and I go oh , I can't with any of it . I can't with any of it . But Sassy does buckle Rupert's knees . He does not take this . It rocks him . It rocks him . I don't think we've ever seen Rupert . He looks down when she leaves .

So there's also like a false positive of your life that you actually think you're beloved . You're not beloved , you just bought the round .

And he said , oh , he's a guy who's used to getting his own way . It's a thing , yeah , like , oh , okay , okay , I know , I know the type Right .

Anyway , I will think of it momentarily , but I believe that is that shirt . I believe that she's wearing the blue that she wore for that , in that sequence , when they greet each other at the stadium and give each other a kiss and walk away , and so anyway , whether that's so or not , she's definitely got on essentially Richmond colors .

And then someone else who's so keen to be there is Babs . Yeah , because one ? Because we love Babs . So , thank you , we love Babs , yeah , and also I feel like Babs is a walking example of all the stuff we're talking about . Like Babs is like , check it . Here's what I like about sports when dudes bloody each other up .

Might not be what you like , I'm just letting you know what I like . I'm not asking you to like the same shirt . I like . It's very like she , but when she cheers for that kind of thing , she is being fully 100 percent Barbara . Like she's right . I think that's her , that is her real and I love that .

So I feel like she's so representative of all the things we've been talking about throughout the series , but even what they were talking about in that meeting , in that she's like just living fully as herself in a lined way , and anyway , I think the contrast is pretty clear .

That Keeley had her , you know , brought her with and it is really charming to see Rebecca see it in between Sassy and Keeley it's almost like different elements of her life but the streams can now collide in a way where it's just like it was always comfortable from everyone . I think Sassy went the second Keeley met Sassy .

She was like I love you , you're a warrior or whatever .

And then in that episode Sassy said that's not Rebecca , and from there on we get karaoke and that's like the beginning , man , and from there on we get to watch Rebecca become great again . So I think it's also fitting in that way that the three of them are sitting there .

We'll blast right into it next time , so we never do . But , coach , where do people find you if they want to find you ?

It's not just his face , I just can't figure it out . Maybe it's the hair .