¶ Ted Lasso and Controversial Discussions
Welcome to our Ted Lasso talk , the Tedcast . Welcome all Greyhound fans , welcome all you sinners from the dog track and all the AFC Richmond fans around the world . It's the lasso way around these parts with Coach , coach and Boss , without further ado , coach Castleton .
The sound you hear is Boss processing that . I'm gonna kill Coach because we just had half a fucking episode of great shit that he refused to press record for . I want the audience to know it was magnificent .
We share a lot , baby . What were you saying about Bill Cosby being your idol ? No , seriously , totally changed my life .
Like became like the model , Like was like okay .
You're talking about the Cosby show for those two . Oh my God .
Yes , oh my God , that became my model . I was like hey , drink this honey . No , jesus , no no , no the . Cosby show . The Cosby show became my model and so , yeah , when this all went down with it , I was like you fucking robbed me . Like I felt like I should be able to have a civil suit against Bill Cosby for what he has .
Like the emotional distress he caused me by taking away the like I cannot , anytime I've even tried to watch , like , yeah , sure , I can try to owe the artist different than the art . It's called the Cosby show . It's not even called the Huxbuff show . Yeah , I can't do it . I cannot do it and I was going to do .
I wanted to have 75 stage shows in my head , which clearly I'll have time to perform before I die at the age of 350 . And but one of them was Good Night , bill .
And I was just going to like , almost like , and I thought , like you know , he told all those stories and I was like , almost like a bedtime story , like I'd have to like say good night , like I got to say goodbye now , like you can't , I can't take you on with me , I can't fucking believe this , but I was , I mean , devastated does not begin to capture how
I felt to find that shit out . And then it was even worse that people were like oh , it's not true , it's because he tried to buy NBC . I'm like are you , I'm going to jump over something , so goddamn tall .
What was true ? I thought it was because he tried to buy , you know because he tried to buy NBC . What is ?
the . What are you talking about , Anyway ?
Hi everybody , hello beautiful people , hello friends , hello Butter Cups , hello Ted Lasso fans . You have caught us in a moment of of just chatting it up before we started talking about the podcast about Ted Lasso .
We got into this because coach was talking , we were talking about nobody will listening , will be interested in this , but we were talking about how how a boss a boss was saying that she made a list . Every time she goes away , she makes a list and , and a week ahead of time .
And I responded by saying that that sexually arouses me because it gets so excited . That kind of order it's not even . It's not you know . I was like nothing to do with boss . Oh geez .
No , definitely not That'd be weird .
Harvest the thought . But it has to do with that , like , oh , the semblance of it's Camelot , you know , for me I go , oh my God , there's order in the world . And then we started talking about how I wish , I wish you could chart the synaptic patterns , the , the , the , the way that the mind processes these things . And why does it end up in the ?
You know , I think , like humans are a mess anyway . So why it ends up in the realm of , of pleasure or or that sort of area , who knows ? But then coach was saying coach , I'll let you say it about the , the , the Fanny thing .
Oh yeah , when they released the note that DA Fulton County Fanny will have sent to Mark Meadows basically saying you get no extension , you get down here and get booked right now , I was fanning myself . I could wow .
That was I mean wow , like yeah , that , that , that tour , that that just was hot to my hand holding my phone I was just like , oh my God , fanny , please stop it . I got to get worked on today .
And then you mentioned the Claire that that that originated with , like the Claire Huxson phenomenon . Yes , and that's how we got into the Cosby show .
Yes , that that brand of I am done with your bullshit and , as a woman , I am now going to take control because this is ridiculous , this , that tone , yes , yes .
I almost said that you were fanning yourself . But I want to be nice to Castleton because I'm going to be so mean to him today .
That is so bad . That is a terrible , terrible , terrible wordplay I know , I know , but still , I have to say I know . Everyone . You guys can't . No one can see it . We got to get this . We're going to .
We're working on getting the video version of the podcast up , which is it's going to be a little weird because coach never wears a shirt , but that's not true . Can you imagine ? Can you imagine it's only a shirt ? I don't . I don't .
I'm a gentleman after all .
Okay , well , it's Donald Duck and it like Jamie Tart and so yeah so . But boss has a huge smile on her face because she has been looking forward to assassinating coach and myself over our rapid reaction response to Ted Laszlo , season three , episode 11 . That is mom city coach , and I had a very positive reaction to it Before .
Our esteemed editor Luke found it to be the greatest episode of television of all time . Wow , boss is covering her mouth in shock and horror , wondering why they allow prepubescent men to talk in the microphones . Boss , you want to . You want to start with your opening salvo , which I'm sure will contain zero information worth anything .
Well , listen , you just said that you really enjoyed the fact that I have notes and that I plan things . And also I should mention one of the best things I've ever done in my entire life is purchase a dedicated toiletry bag . That is only for going on overnight trips , so it has my face wash lotion , toothbrush , toothpaste everything .
And I just keep it under my bathroom sink and grab it and then I don't need to think about anything because everything is in there and I do want you to understand . Unfortunately , none of the butter cups will be able to see it , but I have this note ready to go . I don't know how much that is showing up Like .
I have notes already and it does include the fact that they misrepresented lame is in this episode Like .
I have . Oh , my God , I forgot . This is the , this is the oh yeah .
Yep , yep , I have bullet points . Oh , you're cool , I have bullet points .
I have shit ready to go . There's a really good chance , in fairness , that I am going to highlight the excellence of certain parts of this particular episode that are not excellent just to make you mad , boss .
That's fine , that makes sense . I also I genuinely try to be fair in my criticism of the show . There are often things that I think don't work for me , but not everything needs to be for me . Like , if I don't care about Jade , that's fine , it might be good for somebody else . I have to warn everybody .
I think that there are a couple of things that they do in this episode that aren't just not good but are actively bad .
Like I think it is bad for society that they put forth a couple of the ideas and points that they included in this episode , and I'm going to have to take , like some pretty strong stances against those , because I think they really fucked up a couple of times . Okay , yeah .
I appreciate you saying that it's not true , but I do appreciate you saying it . And on behalf of our listener community , we're going to fight the good fight . And I want to say listen , we get emails and DMs and you name it .
All the time communicates from the Buttercup community , from our listener community , where people say , yeah , you know what you're wrong , coach Castleton . You're wrong , coach Bishop , you're wrong , boss . The first two they are probably wrong , but boss is often wrong .
And I will say that in all seriousness , we all only can see this show through the lens , that we can see it and certain things make complete sense and certain things don't . And listen , it's as simple as the human mind is so wonderful and amazing and sort of poorly conceived in certain ways . Like , why is it when you knew somebody growing up ?
Let's say you have a friend , they have a baby , they don't tell the name because they're smart until the baby's born . And they go okay , yeah , we decided to name him Bruce . And you go shit , I hate this guy , bruce , that I grew up with . So you have a connection in your name , right ?
Or you don't like a name because of an actor that had that name , or you don't like you know , and eventually the child will , if you're close will , take over the name and repurpose the name or whatever , but it's something as simple as that .
We do these things where we have these preconceived notions and we come in with them and , depending on the type of person you are , if you're a person who's judgmental and not curious , you will use those notions to arm yourself and prove why other people are wrong .
Now , with regard to what Boss is saying I'm actually really excited to hear I really wanted to jump in and share that . For a decade of my life my Pavlovian response to the name Nicole was yeah .
Are you serious ? Yeah , my dad tried to name me Nicole and my mom stepped in and was like no there you go , mom prescient no , I am now fine , but I had to work through that .
But yes , for like from 16 , you know , 25 , 26 , I'd say maybe around there , you know , you get married , you grow up a little , but it was , yeah , it was Visceral , like I would have to remind myself . You can't just not like this person because their parents named them that , like it was that .
Yeah , yeah , no , it's true . It's true , I have the coach . Weirdly , I have the exact same feeling about that name . Yeah , is that for real ?
I should specify .
My mom's name is Nicole . Yeah , oh my God .
Okay .
It is starting to go . Oh , oh , yeah , yeah , yeah , she can be a bit of a handful for those people who are joining us for the first time . Yeah , she can .
I will say though , and I wouldn't even say in defense , just in full disclosure absolutely charming in the small dose I got . Now I was a raised buyer . But , oh my God , just a delight ? No , I don't .
Yes , it's seriously amazing . It's amazing to watch , but also we're going to talk about it this episode I was so I felt so seen by Dottie Holden Court . Like my mom does that , she does the thing that Dottie does . Oh yeah , it's just you know what I mean .
Like look at when you met her . She probably was .
Oh yeah , she probably tried to feed you . She probably was huggy , super huggy , super touchy . She'll grab your arms . She'll tell you how she . You're the son she's never had . She is seriously amazing in a room . It's like unbelievable . She just turns the entire room around .
When she used to go to a group , she's Greek Orthodox , grew up in the Greek church and they have these dances and things like that , whatever every couple of few times a year and she would be first one out in the dance floor and then she'd go pull other people onto the dance floor with her and she'd get the party going . Really .
Sometimes she would pull , oh yeah , oh , my God , every time Unfailingly the center of attention should walk up and take the microphone from the priest and talk and go . Okay , everybody Like yeah , I'm , yes , I'm saying I get it , I get it .
But also I don't know if I've ever gotten anything more than the faces and body language of Ted when his mom first was in his apartment , kind of looking through his , through his cover . We'll talk about it as we get there . But she's like , oh , look pretty sparse or whatever , and like those comments on Ted , my mom does that .
Now She'll come over and she'll say one little thing and it's got such roots to it . You know what I mean and I know the roots . I haven't , with all my ADHD . I know exactly what she's saying , no matter what she says . So you can say with a smile but those are iron teeth . So we're going to talk about all that .
Boss , before we do this , should we have a safe word , you and I ?
Possibly . I'm wondering . I think it would be more for you than me , Because I'm going to try to be very nice . But also I'm not , so that's a problem .
Got it ? Yes , I I . Right now I'm the .
Kermit the Kermit the Frog meme with the when he's anxious , that's me right now . No no .
I think I can make this not personal , but I definitely do .
¶ Ted Lasso and Les Mis Representation
I don't want to ruin anybody's favorite episode . I just have strong feelings on a couple of their choices and I will try to keep that as like , fair and clean as possible , while still calling out the the they misrepresented Les Mis . I'm going to have to talk about it . I don't know , it is like that .
But because of my child and my wife both loving musicals generally and both loving Les Mis , I specifically I can understand why that is horrendous . I can understand why that is just egregious and unacceptable .
I'm interested to hear about this .
Yeah , me too .
All right , so listen . If you're at home and you disagree with any of this , it's okay . That's what you're supposed to do . You're not supposed to agree with us on everything .
We don't agree with each other , so feel free to write into us , feel , yeah , feel free to you know , hit us up on social media and or whatever , and we'll , we'll , we'll , chat , chat , chat .
Honestly , it was the middle of season two before I agreed that we were talking about Ted Lasso .
If you want to know the truth , folks , I just kept showing up and wondering what the fuck's going on . White people talking about the hell .
I thought we were what's happening . I thought we were here to discuss good times what ?
Good times . We should do . We should do some talking about about good times . We really should .
Yeah , it's Gilligan's Island in the ghetto , but we'll talk about that another day because it's true . And the first time I was said to me , a little bit of my brains dripped out of my ears because I was like , oh my God , that's a hundred percent the truth , it's Gilligan's Island in the ghetto .
And I just it's funny , it's crazy and it's true , oh my God .
Okay , I'm processing that right now , right yeah .
They're always like , oh , we're going to get out of here . Oh , no , sorry . Oh yeah , wait , thelma's marrying an NFL player , let's celebrate . Oh , we fucked up his knee . Okay , well , I guess we'll just live here . Then He'll just sleep on our fucking couch Great .
Okay , yeah , we'll need to do that . That'll be a very special episode .
Yeah , yeah , all right , I'm sorry I'm going to stop . Here we go .
Yeah , coach , we only have like four black listeners , so try to keep it as white as possible , coach . Coach , take your microphone off , because people are going to hear just silence . Oh , thank you , jesus Christ . People cannot see you .
I was tackling over here . You're right , though . Like if you just hear the silence it's like oh God .
Oh shit , oh my God , coach is so racist . Coach is hate each other , trying to keep it as white as possible going forward . Oh , I've said a lot of good things in my life , okay , so we open over black . Ted is walking , walking , the walk , and he oh , this is written by Joe Kelly and directed by Declan Loney .
We are , we are just doing walking through Richmond , exactly like the walk after Trent's story .
That's right .
Yep , panic attacks . We get hey Wanker . He's saying hi to everybody and it's just a . It's just a . You know , it's like sort of a bookend on on the . This is like the final walk . It feels like right that we're going to see of this nature , right , and like we said , with the last three episodes they're playing their greatest hits .
Everybody gets a curtain call and so I went . The girl that ran by . I mentioned the rapid reaction that I was hoping it was Shannon , but I don't know what happened to Shannon , so maybe they couldn't figure it out .
I think Shannon makes a very quick appearance in the finale , in the in the series finale . I will point out where I thought that happened and I guess I could just check the credits . But yeah , I think I think Shannon shows up just very quickly , coming to come in to see what old Richmond going to do that day .
Oh , is that right , since that episode hasn't aired yet . As far as anybody knows , he's listening to the podcast coach . So how do you do you have a crystal ball coach ? How are you so ?
plugged into the future Time travel .
So we have Ted just saying hi , and then he walks by the , the faded bench , the bench where , what ? What has happened on this bench ? Coach as our resident historian ?
Well , that's certainly . That's where Beard was waiting after the the post Trent article walk , and I believe it is also the bench where they toast with the beers after Michelle leaves with a boy boy why did my Henry I want to say Harry so bad ? But yeah , we're left with Henry and so , yeah , this has been sort of a central space for for old Ted Lasso .
Yeah , and and boss , we mentioned , on the rapid reaction , that you have visited this area and we wondered if you had . Have you sat on this bench ?
Not on that bench , because it was broken when I was there , but there's another bench that I sat on that one instead . So yes this specific bench , was they needed to repair it ?
Oh , if I ever hit the powerball , the three of us are going to sit on that bench together , just so you know . Yeah .
Well , I and I want to make sure that I mentioned I went to London to see a play . I didn't go specifically for Ted Lasso , although I definitely took advantage while I was there Ocean at the end of the lane , based on a Neil Gaiman book . It is still running . I will go back at any point if , like , let's do it , it's fucking roll . We can .
I think it's an Edinburgh right now . We can stop there and then we could go to London , absolutely .
I appreciate that . That's great , I coach . Isn't it funny , remember when she went to London the first time , when it was like season one , like real fresh , and she's like I'm going , I'm going to like do the Ted Lasso fan tour , I love it and also catch like a Neil Gaiman play . Look at her .
Look at her . Look at her , look at her lion lion I have .
I have the texts where I was texting with friends and I was like is it wild , is it a terrible idea ? Because this was January of 2020 . So like , still in pandemic , sort of vaccinated , but still in pandemic I was like , is it fucking wild to fly to London to see a play based on a novella by Neil Gaiman ?
That is like this weird fantasy , sci-fi type stuff . It's like the nerdiest shit that I've done in a really long time . I can send those to you . You will not slander me now . Actually , technically , I oh yeah , no , this is slander .
I do . Yeah , I slander you no matter what . Well , I wanted to make sure it wasn't liable .
No , no , no yeah .
All right , I appreciate that I am . Here's a . Here's a glimpse into the ADHD mind . When you said , oh , that was a , what'd you say ? January of 2020 or something , yeah , the fact that you are able to recall months and years is stunning to me , Stunning . I literally can't do it . I don't my kids , so my kids have have diagnosed me with .
They say it because I'm time blind . They call it dystempia . It doesn't exist . That's something they call it like oh , dystempia , because I cannot tell you .
I couldn't you say like , like I know , like I could generally tell you when I graduated from certain places and I could generally tell you generally when I lived in certain cities , generally , but I couldn't tell you a month or a day or even a season .
So I wanted to save this because I needed to see your faces . When I told you earlier it maybe was even last week and I forgot to mention it I had noticed the week prior that one of my credit cards had gone missing . I checked and there weren't any charges . So I was like I put it someplace .
I just need to figure out where that is or I'll reorder a new one , this is no problem . And I spent like five days trying to track back through what I had been doing and then , as I was getting into bed , I thought , oh , you went to that show . Maybe you stuck it in your little purse that you only use when you go to concerts .
You should check there in the morning . And then I woke up in the morning and I checked and that was where my credit card was . Like I thought about it enough that I figured out where it was , and then I remembered over several hours to go back and look for it .
And then it was there and I was really proud of myself and felt like that would be something that you guys might be slightly impressed with me .
I am totally impressed . No , really , because let me tell you something , the number of times that in a conversation and it's embarrassing it actually happened to me once I was running a room .
So we're breaking this story and my brain's going and I'm trying to track everything and I'm up at the board and someone made an idea and then a couple of the people were building on the idea and then I earnestly repeated the original idea no bullshit . Thank God it was a man who said it , so I didn't have to .
You know , fucking go , no , no no , no , no , it's just my fucking dope of me . And , um , no , literally was like hey , I've got an idea . You said five minutes ago and totally said it .
You know , and there was just this odd silence , and I knew that must be what I just did , and so then I started to retrace it like okay with how I fucking do that , yeah .
Yeah , that is no , that doesn't surprise me . I mean , like , coach , we were buying , we were buying M&Ms to go before our draft you remember this with the draft . And we're just , we go on like a shopping trip before we do this fantasy draft every year and like it's like a , we go to like a you know big box store or something .
Whoever has like a BJs or Costco membership , whatever it is right . And so we're in there and coach is deathly allergic to nuts which I know and he's like , all right , let's get some . Uh , we get some M&Ms and and he's like , yeah , just let's get some playing M&Ms . And I'm like , oh God , I just like peanut M&Ms , so much more .
And and then so I'm looking for peanut M&Ms and we had just said he's allergic to nuts and it just vanished from my brain . It's a ADHD brain , okay , but listen , the other side of that , it's .
It's so fascinating because I remember I was shooting a movie one time and I went up to the director and I said , if you don't get this one shot , you will not have this scene , and because I was able to project forward and start piecing the editing together in my mind right and it was a very , very specific shot he needed .
And oh , I got in a big fight with him and it was a whole thing . I was producing , he was directing , it was a , it was a thing . And he finally like huffed and puffed and did this one stupid little shot . And then you know , seven months later , we're in the room . He's like oh my God , thank God we had right , but only it's so .
It's like it's not , like your brain doesn't work organizationally . It's just that maybe the time thing is . I don't know what time is anyway anyway . So it's crazy , but yeah , so anyway , this is the walk from Ted Lasso . He is a goodbye walk . He walks by the bench , and who's sitting in the bench ? Boss ?
Apparently his mom . We see a shot of her at first . I need to mention again Becky Ann Baker , who is amazing and I love her sitting there quietly looking at him . He says hey , how's it going ? And then comes back as the double take and says mom . And she says hey , teddy .
I like Teddy , I feel like it's . I feel like , generally speaking , it's kind of a nice touch when mom you know , whatever . But I think , particularly this relationship , the guy he told you know , roy , the mom , sorry , he told Roy , would you know tell him something nice or show him something nice before she had some bad news ?
Of course she calls her grown son Teddy , of course . So anyway I like that as a way to get going with her .
Yeah , we're going to talk a little bit about through this episode , about mother son relationships or mother child relationships , and there's a uniqueness to it and I'll say , like , as a father , I've always tried to project like I'm the safest place in the world , you know , like you come back to dad and you will be fine , like I , whatever .
But there is an absolutely unassailable thing about moms , and it's not a competitive thing , it's not like , oh , your dads are people too , it's not that , it's just your mom is your mom , and it's such a so these amazing moments where you see you see , in this episode you'll see some of them , and then I'm interested to appeal the onion with boss on those .
But these are relationships that are so foundational to how someone gets launched into an existence on this planet that you almost can't overstate the importance of it , and so we've spent a tremendous amount of time on this show , on this podcast , talking about something that Ted Lasso has spent a tremendous amount of time on , which is , he said , from the mouth of
the creator himself . He said this is a show about bad dads , right , and so it's nice to see the sort of dip our toe into into the world of moms here a little bit , especially since they are a way to understand someone's crazy . Yeah , it's like a map .
We've known , we've , we've , we've , we've had this idea floating around us for a while in the show .
Yeah , so now we cut to a taste of Athens , boss , we walk us through a taste of Athens , please , yep .
¶ Discussion
So we walk in , there's an overhead shot , we come up on Jade's back and as she's walking to the back of the restaurant we find out that Nate has taken on a job as a waiter there or as a server of some sort , not exactly sure .
They have a little chat about patriarchy obviously a big thing this summer , especially with the Barbie movie and also just the general state of the world .
It's a great . It's a great little beat there , though , because she first of all he says I don't think the cleaner cleaned the floor , and she says they're out . Then why do we put the chairs on the table ? And Jade says just the patriarchy which is , which is a perfectly reasonable answer for anything crappy . I don't mind .
I don't mind Jade defaulting to that one bit and I'm like where's this Jade ? I wish I knew this Jade was like from the get go . I would have been in a different place .
They could have accomplished some of the other things with a bit of that . I just wanted to point out that they had Nate do a bit of a jack in the box kind of surprise entrance , and I thought that definitely was intended to amuse . I just wondered if either of you thought it had anything else to it . It seems so .
I don't know , I didn't , unlike everything else where I'm like that's in season one , that's in season two . That was actually kind of a unique moment in terms of the blocking , but I don't know .
Yeah , I'm trying to think if there's any other time . The only thing I could sort of think of is Roy in the ice bath in season one , but that's not exactly popping up . That's more that he's just hanging out . That was more Oscar the Grouch , but in terms of people in containers it's sort of similar .
All right , boss , keep going , walk us through the rest of this taste of Athens , please .
So after Nate says fair enough , I'll go get a broom , Jade goes to the front and we've got Collin , Will and Isaac who are standing there and she says we're not open for another half hour . Would you care to wait ? Not here .
Magnificent .
And Will and Isaac both turn to leave because they're like oh yes , nope , absolutely . You were being an in charge woman and telling me what to do , so I'm going to do it . And Collin is the only one that's like , actually we're here to see Nate and so , as she's saying , no such man exists .
Nate comes whistling up from the back and he's like oh yeah , oh God . All right , you guys are here and I'm pushing a broom , so this is where they have a little chat . They said oh God , it's true . Will says how did you go through the money so fast ? Did you get addicted to the limelight ? And Nate's like no , I just wanted to work here .
It's what I'm choosing to do right now . She's spending time with his girlfriend . She's right . Oh well , she was right here because Jade apparently ducked out right when he was trying to be like hey , look at my lovely girlfriend who I get to hang out with all the time at this place , this job that I'm working , and she's gone .
We'll bump into this otherwise . And I mean , obviously I get what's happening here , but it's interesting to consider that it is truly unthinkable , like it is unthinkable , that what Nate said could possibly be the truth .
Yeah , I'm not broke , I just , you know , I saw this job and I thought it was , you know , relatively interesting , and I didn't have anything else to do , so I'm doing this , but it's like no , no , no , no , no . You would only do that if you were in dire financial strength .
It's a very interesting like the tone of it is very , you know , everybody's like oh my God , he must have really screwed up his life .
It's not an easy job , I will say being a waiter is not at all . I have done it . I worked waiting tables . Again , it's crazy to be someone with ADHD and try to remember God , but yes , no , it's something that it's tough . You're on your feet , you're fast moving . It's a lot of stress , a lot of pressure , really hard work .
But yeah , I mean to go from one of the top you know managers in the world to waiting tables in tooting seems like a . It's questionable . I want to point out here that Nate does something I really love , which is a callback to when Beard was in his office and said you were weird about calling and he's like now , get out or whatever .
And he says it would ever and then he turns back and he's like it's my office and Beard was gone and I called it out in the rapid reaction . I called it out in the episode but it was . Nate looks for beard and then looks up . I don't know what his instinct is to look up . That's funny . He's been around in this scene to look for Jade .
He also looked up , I don't know where he thinks he's around a bunch of them .
What does it that the evangelicals say when they think , like you know , god's going to sweep on by and just pick them up and leave the rest of us here and like they get raptured or something like that ? Oh yes , the raptured . Maybe Nate thinks there's a little rapture action going down .
Maybe that is what happened . Yeah , jade got raptured right there in the taste of Athens , okay , so yes , she was right here . That was my girlfriend . What are you guys doing here ? And , boss , what do they say ?
We want you to come back to Richmond .
Now , okay , great Boy , I would have liked to have seen that meeting . Totally cool . Not going to harp on it , but in the world of choices to do things off screen , I say kind of kind of , would have enjoyed seeing that you do . Yeah , bro , because this year should hear a sad as fuck . And oh , I hear doorbell . Who is it , boss ?
Yeah that's me Probably . Amazon over there .
So , while boss is running off , this should just hear a sad as fuck .
Well , it's also what Anastasia or Anastasia said about that place .
She did say it's sad yeah .
So you know , I think you know she didn't say sad as fuck . No , not as well , but yeah , she said , this is sad , so yeah , so interesting that when the truth serum is in play .
Coach . What makes a place satisfied ?
I think in part if it feels like the fun of it is behind it , time wise . So like like , I've definitely walked into places and immediately thought like , like some steakhouse or even a diner or whatever . And it seems like , you know , probably 25 years ago this place was kind of hopping .
I bet they were like teenagers making sure to swing by here on the weekend . It's all over now . Now we're just , you know , selling three day old lemon meringue by slices , but once upon a time this was the perfect place to be .
I'm trying to hone in on the feel of it , because you get that thing , you go into a place and you know this feels and like what I again I don't know what it is . Is it a combination of the aesthetic quality of the place ? Is it the general vibe of the people who inhabit or work at the place , like ? Is it the lighting ?
Is it the combination of all of those ? I think lighting is big Right .
I think I think when a place is physically dark isn't necessarily make it sad , but I think it can contribute . So I think the physical darkness Also . If you hear that gnawing sound , I'm not sawing through someone's femur . That is a biggie . Going to town on this bully stick , that is how I get quiet around here .
So I love it as a coach's dog be smalls . Who is how many pounds is a biggie these days ? Coach .
He is a scale tilting eight pounds .
Okay , nice , nice .
He'll be one year old and less than a month , so don't see him getting to 50 , but we'll see . We'll see how it plays out .
Okay . So all of you , you want me to come ? Yeah , it'll be good to have you back . The whole team talked about it . It was unanimous . Again , boy , I would have liked to have seen that , except for bummer cat , who understand , because he's passionately anti-democratic . So that makes him a socialist . Is that what it was ? He's a socialist . I'm trying to think .
What he is in in Switzerland , what would , what would he know ? If he's not an authoritarian , he's not a , so it's got to be .
I think he's mostly a chaos agent is the sense I get .
Oh , anarchist actually does make sense .
Does it like follow the money , the hay I want to see the court of justice and the hay . I don't know , I thought it was just he has to be .
Yeah , no , that feels kind of like a not an anarchist in terms of absolute chaos , but anarchist in terms of this system is completely fucking broken and needs to be overthrown , not rehabilitated . I feel like anarchist in that way kind of makes sense .
Aren't we all in that ? If that's the definition , well , yeah , I mean , that's fucking true , jesus Christ . Ok , so , so what ? Ted asked you guys to come here to get me to come back , and this is a very hopeful look on Nate's face .
I would posit that some of the best acting from Nick Muhammad and the most subtle acting from Nick Muhammad came in this episode . I really love his facial expressions , his body . Here he's always good . I will you take that to the bank . He is an amazing actor .
We saw him , I think , being directed to go a bit over the top with certain things , walking across the street and throwing the box in the air and huge smiles . Evil Nate versions of himself that were big , but I think the best actors can do subtle very well .
And I think , if you look at his body language , so he holds his shoulders , his I made fun , in the rapid reaction , of the sheer amount of hair dye they put in his eyebrows , which just seems like comical to me . But yeah , but still , he is . He is excellent . No , ted doesn't know about it .
We wanted to ask you to see if you wanted to come back before you approach Ted , and right away he there's this , this glimmer of hope . Which is what does hope do for your coach ? Kills you . Yep , it's hope that kills you . And then , boss , he has this glimmer of hope . And then why does he say , ok , well , sorry guys , right away
¶ Discussion on Nate's Abusive Behavior
. What is that in these personnel ?
Well , that feels like the externalized need for validation that he doesn't have internal self-worth and he's constantly looking for other people to validate that he is good enough or that they want him or that they like having him around in those types of things .
I'm sitting right here it seems like something . I mean , oh , you meant Nikki . I'll go back on me . Sorry about that .
I mean , that's actually the thing . Like it's , I understand it , it's fairly common . I have , I don't . It's not necessarily an external need for validation , but I do have a the Emily show that I put out Like I do want people to think , oh , she's smart and funny and tells a good story . Like I have my own version of this .
I know nobody . Nobody thinks that . Nobody thinks that I keep failing . It's really interesting that .
I can see you know , over and over and over again .
And find some of us think that .
That's fine . Yes , so everybody has this to an extent , but his is extreme or media Cute . I'm not sure exactly how you would like this but but boss .
But boss . He patched things up with his dad last episode , which means he's right .
So everything is fixed . It's one , it's always one big conversation and then everything is fixed .
I feel like I was told not to egg boss on and then that just happened .
Yeah , I know , I know . Wait what if there's any . If there's any , the gold standard of this show is do as I say , not as I do , coach . I think I've established that with a low character and forgetful nature , coach going to blast right through this one . Yeah , no for sure .
So I was going to say , I was going to say that I thought it was interesting that this was such a quick response from Nate , only because , yeah , he has looked for extrinsic validation and he has gone through the ringer . I think we're supposed to understand that a few weeks have passed of him being at the I could be wrong .
I felt like he had learned the ropes at Taste of Athens and that he was sort of settling into a new kind of thing . And we're going to get to how I why . I think that a little bit and some key elements .
I guess , like for me , I said this , I probably got out of my mind when we coach and I said the same thing and I think , boss , you're with us on this where we're , like , until he self identifies as wonder kid and owns it and admits it , I don't have any , I don't have time for I don't care . Like , I don't care about your lies .
You know what I mean . Like once , if you lie about something so basic that everybody knows , right , everybody knows , you can look at a man and you can say does that man weigh two hundred and fifteen pounds ? And everybody knows .
No , that man does not weigh two hundred , and fifty , you can look at you can look at Nate and you can say he said wonder kid on camera in front of millions of people and we have the tape to prove it , and he's as till . He says , yes , I did , I did , I own that . Then there's no , it's like , it's like a sort of a waste of time .
So we're going to talk about this as we keep going forward , but he says thank you .
You know it's interesting , I just want to jump in on that . You know it's a big thing to be able to face your flaws like in a real way . It does like just as a as a grown up right , like just you know what you're describing . We've all had that moment where we just had to eat it , right , like we just had to admit like yep , I did that .
That was pretty fucking phone headed , sorry about that . And in a way , I think the hope that we saw from Nate in this scene was oh goody , ted's done my work for me . I actually don't have to go eat this bowl of shit that I'm rightfully needing to eat , right , because if Ted said everybody said come back .
Oh OK , ted said come back , everybody said come back , it's all good , everything's fine . So no , no , no , no , no , no . You're still , you like , you still have a bowl of shit to eat . And I think his oh thanks , but no thanks is , in part , him still not being able to say I said wonder , kid , I rip the sign . I spilled the beans . Ted , I am sorry .
But yes , coach , yes for sure , and Nate engineered this and they didn't write will a email . He , he invaded the Richmond locker room , like , physically , put himself on the premises and to make . Now , listen , I like the choice , I'm not I'm not disparaging the choice . It's a good choice and I think it was a long time coming and I think it was a .
It was a good move and I think we'll recognize it for the good move that it was and in the spirit of what it was , and it was signed properly , had a sprig of lavender , I don't . I think it was a masterful sort of move , but you can't argue with the fact that that's where he did the move .
So he must have been longing , even if it's subconscious for some , some beat of .
I want to be back in that place that gave me so much joy and it's not lost on me that the , that the movement that starts based on that , based on Nate's initial sort of inciting action , comes via the players and will , and that that's powerful because it's like , it's almost like a , like a low , low key uprising .
You know it's not coming from man , it's not top down right , it's coming from from people who have been sort of schooled in the lasso way . Right or go ahead , coach , whatever your thought is , go , go .
So this is actually another example of them being able to go out on the pitch and do it on their own . They get it right . So before Ted had to say , look , I had a , I had a dad , sam had a dad . I just watched Jamie's father throw a cleat at him .
So , yes , he can come back because he deserves a shot , right , and he doesn't have to explain that to Sam anymore , he doesn't have to explain that to the team anymore , like they now , independent of him , say that's Nate , he's our guy , he fucked up . Let's , let's , let's go , let's go get him .
That's not who he is , that's what he did , let's go get him . And so I think this this has , this is like a step for them as a group , and I will take my tongue lashing off air .
Oh , you saw my face . So one of the things that I think the episode doesn't do a great job of and I'm not sure if this is that the writers don't have the experience or their understanding of it is different . But what I have read from Nate's behavior in retrospect now , throughout the entire series , what I believe is that Nate is abusive Like .
Actually he is abusive to will . He tries to be abusive to Colin the betrayal of Ted is a bit abusive . So there is a very big difference between somebody fucking up one time or even a few times , somebody like having a fuck up , and you saying like hey , jamie , you can like come be with us . Like at the beginning of the show .
Jamie was abusive to Nate , absolutely . We also saw him start from a really terrible point of view . We also saw him start from a really terrible position and then Ted was introduced and this idea was introduced and Jamie took steps in order to become better .
He went to therapy and he stopped thinking of his own emotional needs and started considering other people's and realized that he can't lash out at other people . I have a big issue with the fact that Nate has exhibited a lot of abusive behavior to a lot of different people and hasn't seemed to reconcile any of that .
Like what he did do was make peace with his dad . What he has not done is recognized . He felt like shit when he said wonder kid . So he lashed out at will because he blamed will for his own bad emotions . Like I'm going to be perfectly honest with you at this point .
I think the next step is not that he gets better , but that he starts abusing jade , like looking down his road right now , I don't think he's done enough work where he's going to have a healthy relationship with the team and with her . I think this is going to be a repeat of somebody makes him feel good , that goes away , so he starts acting out .
Somebody else makes him feel good , that goes away , so he starts acting out . Like I'm not hopeful for Nate .
Why would you say that ?
Because I think it's true , because I know that it's really . I don't think that he's going to hit jade , but I think that he's going to do the same sort of emotional and verbal shit that he did to will to her . I don't think that she'll stand for it , but I think that he will try it .
You make some really good points here , boss , honestly Like who knows who's to say what's going to happen .
Oh , my feelings be damned . Is that basically no , no , no , seriously , it was really well .
Listen , if you really do step back , let's take the key players out of this and you go . What's different about the gesture ? Listen , if you think about domestic abusers right ? One of the hallmarks of a real veteran domestic abusers . They do the abuse , right . Then all of a sudden they buy presents and I'm honey , I'll never do it again . I'm so sorry .
What is to say that ? That isn't Nate's version of the locker room thing ? They have a moment of clarity and then , without doing the work , they go right back to the pattern of destructive behavior . Now I don't think we have enough information to suggest that that is what's going to happen and the show wants us to believe .
Certainly that is not what's going to happen , boss . They are trying to establish , especially by the role that Nate will eventually occupy , as a sort of indicator of his changed persona . But you make an excellent point and let's not gloss over it , because it happens everywhere , it happens across the world . We see it all the time and people get fooled .
So he's all flowers must mean he loves me and he's sorry , like you know we were fooled so easily .
like first season Nate we didn't register as being abusive whatsoever . He had to blow up at Rebecca at the very end and we were like , oh well , that's because he was upset , like that's out of character .
We did call it out on this .
We called it out , yes , but like we said , but I don't know how much we called it out , like I don't remember all too about season one , ever feeling like he is dangerous , right , and so I think like we all fell in love with sweet little Tim and Nate who didn't believe enough in himself . And then it was only in retrospect .
They were like oh shit , yeah , no , that was bad , that was bad stuff , yeah the speech and make Rebecca great again .
That literally made me cry in retrospect . I'm like yeah . Oh my God , that was all foreshadowing . Like this guy is rough . Yeah , yeah , yeah .
And I
¶ Exploring Flawed Characters and Life Lessons
sorry . I just want to say I definitely understand that the writers what they were going for and that that is what they want us to believe . I have a hard time with them saying this is how , this is a way in which he would now become a safe person , when I feel like in real life there is no indication that that's true .
I think you're 100% right and I also think part of the work like even almost trying to travel again but part of the work when you're doing therapy is , yes , figuring out what some of those wounds are , figuring out , you know , and the sort of cliche around oh your mother screwed you up , oh you're going to therapy , so you're asking , there's that .
But part of that work is also then looking at how that shows up in your life . And it doesn't only show up in how you react to your mother , it doesn't only show right and so so interestingly I would , I would say hearing 100% what you said , coach , about you know they've come back .
You know users will say I love you , I'm sorry , it'll never happen again . I think there is a significant percentage I won't say majority or not , or whatever of abusers who believe the shit when they say it .
Now the rest of us from the outside looking in may go get the fuck out of here .
But I think there is a sense of like oh wow , that was crazy , I really you know . But that button , that awareness , whatever it takes to be able to go , uh-oh , this feels like blah , blah , blah when I was six . I need to take my steps to not do my normal reaction . Without that , it's a promise .
They actually can't make Yep , absolutely , but the instinct is to make it .
Yeah , I don't want and I don't wanna reference too many other shows in this episode cause we've got too much to talk about but Barry had a theme of him repeatedly saying , starting now , like everything's gonna change starting now , and then he would do nothing to change it , and then nothing would change , and then he would make the promise again after some other
point , starting now .
Jade you endangered her .
So yeah , people do that all the time I mean- .
No no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no I mean it mostly , but no , I'm serious . I think I don't think so , and here's why . Here's why this is Boss is right , because Boss lives in the real world and Boss is adding real world values to a Disney show and so this is what's happening here .
So I don't think Jade is in danger and I don't think that's like saying the Gizellic man actually inappropriately touched Rebecca , it's like it's like not on this show . Yes , boss is right that as we discuss these things , we have to be mindful about this very , very common and destructive element of our society .
But it is not , and we have to see the warning signs as they're written by a staff who has the limitation of writing for television , with a limited amount of time and a limited amount of development . But Boss is not wrong on any of those levels , other than I think and this is you're not wrong , boss , but I think that's not this particular show .
But yes , I hear what you . I guess maybe there's a yes and built into this , because I absolutely hear what you're saying . I don't think in the writer's room they were contemplating , hey , does he end up being verbally abusive to Jade Big mystery like ? I don't think that .
But one of the things I have pounded the table about for this show is I do feel that there's an emotional honesty , even if sometimes it has to get condensed into story beats in ways that maybe hey , that's not exactly how that would go . But I could see the progression here .
I think that's absent and I do think it's worth noting that , truly based on what we've seen , even in the context of the Ted Lasso world , there really isn't reason to believe this behavior is gonna change .
Like Jamie goes through some things that make us go , I see that this character would behave differently Even in the context of this universe where things are great . I tend to land on , even in this context , how , why ? You know what I mean Like yeah , anywhere .
Yeah , I like to let the know . I think this is yeah , yes , yeah , and I do think that this is one of the instances where there might be lessons that I don't quite . I feel like maybe the writers need to do more work in order to establish but the lesson that they're trying to teach , I think , has been good and applicable to real life .
In this case , I feel like the lesson they are trying to teach would be bad were it applied to real life . That's my issue with the way that this is going out .
Is that ? Yes , I I .
I hear you Like , yeah , like if you are looking for the show to be sort of a moral guide into how you should treat people and how you should behave with them , this is not a good lesson . You shouldn't be engaging with Nate when he hasn't done the work and he could hurt you again . Like that's bad yeah .
I'm ready . Well , way to cheer everybody up , guys , yeah , thank you . Happy Friday . So , on that same , with that same , the same sort of that same sort of vibe that we're putting out here . I don't think it's a good idea for me to come back to Richmond , so thank you , though . They go , oh , okay , and they go to leave . Cool they're .
They're like oh , that's a bummer . Isaac says can I have 75 kebabs to go ? No , yeah , no , of course , chicken , polka , lamb , and of course that that actually was pretty good Dumps , stumps , isaac .
Oh yeah , Absolutely no way to figure this out .
No , no , no methodology to do that , or 25 each Nate offers and huge smile by Colo McKeeley . I love this guy's face so much . Biggest smile ever . Snatches fingers , points to Nate the Great and listen . It's a nice moment . It's a nice moment to remember when he was Nate the Great . We all loved Ted . Lasso in perpetuity .
When he the great Roy Kent speech , I mean , this was epic , it was gigantic when he was Nate the Great . Right , he can get back to that just by properly splitting up even segments of kebabs . Then that's not a high bar , but I think as a yeah , as a beat , it's a nice beat , I love it too .
Yes to everything you just said , and because there's so much around status . But Isaac's love for Nate the Great is about loving who he is essentially right Like . Nate was always figuring some shit like that out . Nate , you know what I mean . Say what you want about Nate .
No one ever said oh , I went to my locker and my towel wasn't where it was supposed to be . Nate was on his shit as you know what I ?
mean , and I think kind of remembering that part of him , the best of him , really speaks to as much to Isaac as it does to what he's remembering that you know , for everything that's going on , good old Nate the Great solving problems being the smart guy .
Yes . And who doesn't love an ?
appetizer sampler .
Absolutely . I want to point out , coach , you've said now twice in this segment you mentioned , you know , status is important and you mentioned why are we so hesitant to admit our flaws ? And I want to point out that it's because they're because they're perceived or framed as flaws .
The job of working as a waiter has every bit as much honor and there's no lack of morality in working as a waiter as opposed to a Premier League coach . There's no . The things that people in society deem to be quote unquote flawed are because of an absolutely ridiculous perception of what humans should be .
There are , you know , we have body shaming and job shaming and you know parenting shaming , you name it . Everybody's got a position on how everybody else should do everything else and the thing is like , the fact that they are misconstrued as flaws is why people have a hard time owning them and talking about
¶ The Burden of Societal Expectations
them . You know . You just , it is so wrongheaded to aspire to a false . You know this sort of amalgam of avatars that leads to the perfect , you know . But the Barbie movie did this fantastically . But it's like what are we aspiring to ? And who set that as the aspirational , like goal ? It's ridiculous . We're all perfectly fine the way we are .
We all should be accepted for who we are . You know what ? Some people don't want to be a motherfucking Premier League manager . They want to be a waiter because it's like in their wheelhouse and they like working in restaurants , like there's nothing wrong with anything that anyone chooses .
And what happens is society gets in and makes this absolute , you know , miasma of expectations that nobody could possibly ever live up to . And then now , all of a sudden , we're all burdened with the concern about whether or not we're meeting up to a impossible standard . So anyway , I think it's .
I just want to point that out before we gloss over it and before we move on , because it's we're all experiencing it . We all deal with it in different ways , and I mean not me , because I'm a middle-aged white man . So the world is moist , but everybody else deals with it and it's .
But it's important because you know , it's something that affects all of us in different ways , but we're all burdened by that ridiculous expectation .
So I think yes to everything you just said , and one of the things I have been landing on more and more is that what Ted what Ted does big picture , if you just watch this entire show and even other parts of his life that we hear about is he frees people . That , essentially , that's what he does he frees people .
And so I think you have to free yourself , or be freed and embrace that freedom to be able to be that person , to be that waiter or whatever it might be , and just live in that . But one of my I'll just use this as an example , but , like you know , we talked about the coaching I've done with kids and whatever .
Well , guess what I wasn't doing when I was doing all that shit , making money , that's something I was not fucking doing . And there are a lot of ways in life where you know , depending on whose scorecard you're using , I really fucked up . Like what are you doing ?
Teaching kids to reach across to grab a goofy fucking flag when there's money out there to be made ? So I have to be to assess that situation in a way that's at all fair to me .
I have to free myself or be freed on some level from that way , you know from that way to recognize yes , that's the scorecard , that's not my scorecard and that's not the way I choose to look at this piece , or you'll always sort of be in a little bit of a you'll be chasing a tail , cause it'll be . I think this thing is important .
I'm going to do this thing . Oh yeah , I failed because look at my report card .
Yeah , you know , you're a hundred percent right . You're , especially especially when we're talking about women and minorities . Like what are we talking ? Like you think it's bad for white people to live up to expectations . It's literally impossible for women to do anything right , and God forbid if you're , if you're any any person of any color anywhere on the planet .
It's like you just go , okay , all right . So so freeing yourself is fundamental . I love that , coach . There's this . There's this thing that I talk about all the time . I've mentioned on the show before , where Emily was talking about Emily . Who's Emily , by the way ? Who the hell is Emily ?
Are you referring to you guys have somebody sitting in .
Our boss , emily Chambers . Yeah , but we talked about women of a certain age becoming invisible , right , and it is shocking for women at for I would say , all women , but it was shocking for some women when they hit that thing , and then for other ones it's utterly liberating , it is fantastic . So I talk a lot about here in New England .
There's this strange dynamic where you have women . They get to a certain age . They raise their kids first of all . They become invisible on the way to raising their kids . The kids go , the kids go to college and then move out .
Now they're stuck with the man that they chose 30 , 40 years before right , typically , that man has a just because I'm speaking from from you know , friends of people I know and very oftentimes that man has a dependence on alcohol , and so it's , but it's just the two of them left in the nest .
And then , for the first time in that woman's life , she starts discovering who the hell she actually is , and it is transcendent . It is so amazing . Cause she's like wait , what do I want ?
Cause she has to add , she's not saying she's not burdened by getting her kids to school , or you know , as parents you're always oh , should I put my kids in more sports , my kids spending too much screen time on . You know , should I do all the things that ? You know ?
The rules have changed when you parent , but when you're completely freed like what coach is saying from that , that , the burden of that , you just have to decide wait
¶ Exploring Women's Experiences and Misconceptions
, who am I ? And then you have women . Start to explore . Okay , I'm going to join a yoga class . I'm going to . You know , I'm going to start to do it . I might , might , travel with a friend to somewhere . Honey , do you want to go to on a cruise with me , or do you want to go experience this thing ? No , I don't want to go . Go with your friend .
Okay , good , now you have women traveling all over the world . It right , and it's like , it's like a awakening . It's Kate Chopin , you know , sort of a awakening moment and you go . This is , this is remarkable . Why can't it happen when women are nine , 10 , where they start that process and then , at 13 , the society comes in , crushes them ?
I don't , I don't get too far down that rabbit hole , but it is something that you know , it's all part and parcel of what you're talking about , coach , and the freedom .
Well , I mean , I think no discussion of what it's like to be a woman that would be complete without both guys speaking to it , so I'm going to go ahead and jump in here .
Obviously , absolutely .
But . But I will say that when I there's a , there's a speech I guess you know spoiler alert to some degree , not really in the Barbie movie that people have been talking about , and it's basically just .
You know , the movie , in fairness , does kind of stop for a character to break down what it's like to be a woman in real life , like just and some people thought it was great , some people think it sucks .
Whatever I thought the most interesting thing about it was , I probably could count certainly without moving from my fingers to my toes the number of times I sat in a movie theater and had in front of me any question or exploration of what it's actually like to be a woman like period .
Yeah , cause right , right , and I was like so you know what I mean .
So I felt like , yeah , you probably do need . For the people who are like , oh come on , who doesn't know that I'm like a lot of fucking people don't know that ? I did . I like , I feel like I learned a little bit and I feel like I've been trying to pay attention , so anyway , and you're not wrong about that at all .
I think the interesting part is that that has happened in other movies previously , but not ones that both men and women and people in general receive . That's a lot of . Just because of the nature of being a woman in society is that chick flicks aren't seen by men ?
Right .
And so the movies where they are talking about those things , guys are like fucking I'm not going to watch the sisterhood of the trailing pants or fucking how to make an American quill . That's not for me .
Yeah , coach , why don't you watch Steel Magnolia's every once in a while ? You fucker All right .
Okay , but Steel .
Magnolia's is just I have watched .
Yeah , magnolia's first of all . Okay , okay .
Good , so obviously I'm enlightened , you , neanderthal , no me no , no .
Well , listen , this is beautiful and listen . One of the reasons we like to bring this stuff up , even as men , on a show where we outnumber the women two to one , is because one of the things we spent a lot of time on the season two we talked about just what it's like to be a woman getting dressed in the morning .
Choices you have to make for your clothing , choices you have to make for it that men do not have to make , we do not have to make it , we don't have to think about it . If I put my hair up in a ponytail , what message does that send to a man who would think like to sexualize and infantilize me ? It's if you go , oh my God , what like ?
Oh , my dudes , don't have to spend a second thinking about that .
So , anyway , I'm sorry , I'm sorry . I am sorry I don't have to share this because I was so blown away Like it was even like wow . Even as a guy I am having a hard time even finding where this came from .
So this woman posts you know some guy on you know some argument thread shares his sincere belief that women who post social media picture they're so all their social media pictures are with their kids are intentionally posting those pictures because they want guys who are going to beat it to images of them to feel awkward about it .
I was like that is the craziest shit I've heard in a long Wait what . Yeah , so I ? I mean , I'm this guy , I meet Renee , make up a name and I go Renee's hot mental note let's go look at some pictures of Renee . Because , hey , god do that .
If I go look at pictures of Renee and all the pictures are are Renee and her kids is because Renee wants me to feel uncomfortable masturbating to images of her . Like , how centered do you have to be in someone else's fucking existence to believe any of that , you lunatic .
I mean , I've heard a lot of shit , but even I am like that . That that's new for me .
I kind of like it , though If that actually is true . I'm not saying it's true , I'm not trying to say it's true , but I'm like that would be kind of clever . I don't have that .
Listen , it's funny because sometimes I'm going to do a hiring or things like that , working with writers , or they'll be like , oh yeah , I checked on all your socials and see if we were compatible . I'm like , oh fuck , I just never have incorporated that into my world . I don't kind of give a shit . I go off like , hey , do I like this person ?
Do I get right , feel so , but yeah , and then . But then you hear about like , oh , I met someone , like anecdotally , whatever , and then and then , oh yeah , then that leads to masturbation . I'm like , wow , like here , I think . I know I'm the resident prude on the podcast , but like , never once .
Like never once , never , never even occurred to me to think , to you To do that . But imagine , like you think about it .
So the next level is have the thought , do the thing , but then believe that the choices made on that page are centered around your masturbatory practices Like yeah , no , that's true what most people do Most women have kids and families just to prevent wherever that guy is from from from banging one out Like what is happening . Anyway , I had a family .
I got a level with you . That's another , like just an entire new level , because when I post pictures it doesn't even occur to me , oh , somebody is going to be jerking it to this , like . That's the level where I'm , like I just I just wanted to make a joke about Jimmy World .
Listen , as I'm sure people do for yours , especially once they heard that you're shaving your feet yes , yes , yes yes . And talking about how hot you were while shaving your feet , and I think like you have to . You have to just imagine there's just going to be an ocean of masturbators out there . You got to get some kids .
I could run a bad joke but we're going to just move on .
This is about Ted Lasso , yeah , ted Lasso . So we say , nate the Great , nice , thank you . And and there's this , this we're still rolling credits over the top of this , by the way , when this is happening . And so Nate walks away once . Once he goes to get the kebabs , he heads out back big smile . I love his body here , I love his smile .
He's very understated . He walks back broom in hand , and who's waiting there to watch him go boss ? That'd be Jade over hearing the entire conversation Right , even though she disappeared into the ceiling Right , just quick that way and and so yeah , that's the , that's the sort of opening , the opening vibe that you get from that . I .
I'm going to call it there today because I really want to focus on Dottie in a way that is Dottie centric , and we've been talking about a lot of issues and there's a lot of emotions coming up and if I have any say in the matter , I'd like to try to give boss more time to chill out before she attacks me .
Just a tactic that I'm trying to employ to defang the viper that is slithering toward me .
Yeah , and I would like the listeners at home , but I mentioned that I am medicating myself prior to these conversations . This is me like as sweet and chilled out as I can possibly get with some pretty high quality drugs . I'm not stoned right now , but I was last night . I love this .
I just love it . I'm not .
I have the same . Like I'm not a doctor but I play one on TV , that was like a very same . Yeah , no , let's pick this up . I'm very excited to get into this , this dot when we open next time .
We're going to be talking about we're going to be talking about when , like , we're going to open on Ted in his flat texting with Beardo weirdo Beardo and we're going to just jump right in and sort of knock out the next three to four minutes of Ted Lasso time frame . But listen , these are important issues . That's why we mentioned them .
They're important , they need to be talked about , and far be it from us to leave any stone unturned . Coach , where do people find you if they want to find you ?
The podcast . Wherever you get your podcast called unstuck a f , you can catch conversations I'm having with folks who are or are getting unstuck in their lives , so you can take some notes and do the same .
Also , what about you ?
Still on Twitter as of right now , although also at Blue Sky . So if you're there , same handle both places . It's Dumbly underscore chambers because the world was nice enough that Dumbly was not taken .
I need to ask about that Also .
Yeah , yeah , yeah Also I eventually writing more at the antagonist , which is antagonist blogcom .
Yeah , I got to get me a blue sky code , boss , I saw you got one and then gave it away . So thanks , actually . No , did you know you had one ? No , no , but I got to get . I'll talk about it offline .
You need another one , they need one , we all need more .
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Richmond till we die .
Awesome , we'll see you next time .
