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Ted Lasso | S3 Ep10 Part1 "International Break"

Jul 31, 20232 hr 20 minSeason 3Ep. 48
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The Tedcast is a deep dive podcast exploring the masterpiece that is Ted Lasso on Apple TV+.

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Ted Lasso Season 3 Episode 10

Speaker 2

Welcome to our Ted Lasso talk , the Tedcast . Welcome all Greyhound fans , welcome all you sinners from the dog track and all the AFC Richmond fans around the world .

Speaker 3

It's the lasso way around these parts with Coach , coach and Boss .

Speaker 2

Without further ado , Coach Castleton .

Speaker 3

Okay , welcome back everybody . It's so great to have you here Today . We are going through Ted Lasso , season 3 , episode 10 , international Break . Oh my god , episode 10 . That's almost episode 12 . My name is Coach Castleton . I'm your host with me , as always is . We call him Coach Bishop , but I want to stress that he is Orlando fucking Bishop .

Coach , great to have you here .

Speaker 2

What's going on ?

Speaker 3

And with us as always . We call her Boss , but she is Emily fucking Chambers .

Speaker 1

So you're trying to take over the accounting duties here . We're on episode 10 . We're almost episode 12 .

Speaker 3

There's a lot of math there Just run the books .

Speaker 1

Why don't you ?

Speaker 3

I , um no , I graciously , I graciously bow out of that responsibility Are superior to me in every way where it comes to being a queen in the sheets .

Speaker 1

Exactly , that is exactly right . What's the mug you have Freakin' the sheets with an Excel page ? Yes , freaking the sheets , it's so painful .

Speaker 3

I hope that's the earn that they bury you in after you .

Speaker 1

No , I'm full on taxidermy You're gonna be shot into space . No , no , no , full on . Taxidermy sitting up pointing at somebody .

Speaker 3

Just like accusatorily . Oh my God , that's fantastic . Yeah , yeah , who gets you at the end ? Who gets ? You , I don't care Whoever , one of the five maybe .

Speaker 1

No , Well , I mean I'm gonna outlive you . Let's get real .

Speaker 3

That is true .

Speaker 1

Yes , we need to acknowledge that first . What are we talking ?

Speaker 3

about . I know all of my plans to have you killed have come to , not at this point .

Speaker 1

Yeah , although , um , I do know at least the year of my death already . So as long as you can stay alive until I hit 81 , because that's the day after my 81st birthday I'm going out regardless , I don't care what happens . Bottle of whiskey , bottle of sleeping pills , 12 cheese croissants . I'm calling it a day , that's it .

So if you can live to then you can't see that , but I don't know . I love it .

Speaker 3

No , no , there's no , no , no prayer in hell of that happening , but I'm excited about the croissant thing .

Speaker 2

I like that . I do I like figuring like I'm really about to die ? Like what am I ?

Speaker 3

What's my last meal ? I'll uh a prisoner on death row .

Speaker 1

Oh yeah .

Speaker 3

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Oh , do you have this .

Speaker 3

You have this loaded . You have this locked and loaded , both of you .

Speaker 2

I could see .

Speaker 3

Boston that because she's twisted and has no children .

Speaker 2

Oh , I don't have it , I'm just saying I like it , I love this . She has it .

Speaker 3

She's a perfluous . Oh yeah , you just like him . You don't have it , coach .

Speaker 2

No , no , I don't have that planned out , although my my , my funeral , I have thought about and I wanted to be like a blowout party , like I want people to go absolutely nuts . I want people playing cards , dominoes like maybe a DJ . Yeah , like crazy . Yeah Like people in the street , people jumping all cars and shit , like I don't know Go crazy .

Speaker 3

Yeah yeah , that was coach and I had a like a true bonding moment .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 3

When remember Biggie's funeral , the real Biggie Smalls , not the , the celebrity Biggie Smalls . Which , who is the ? Is the current , uh , dog owned by a coach ?

Um , but uh , yeah , the funeral going through the street and it was like really somber or whatever , and you remember that one moment , what's the one moment coach , when he played the music and everybody just went . It was like specifically hypnotized oh my God , of course , yeah . It was like the first few notes come out from a window up top somewhere .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah . And then it wasn't part of anything , it was like somebody just was like yeah , like this is what we should do .

Speaker 3

Yeah , and then it turned into the , the biggest block party you've ever seen . I was like wow that's what his life was . That's what it ended up being . That's how it ended up . And we can talk forever about what it was and what it might have been and we can cry oh God , there's so , so many , so many themes .

You know we should do a deep dive podcast on something . What do you guys think ? Yeah , maybe .

Speaker 2

What I'm slowly realizing is you and I have been doing deep dive like since we met , like we've now just figured out a way to you know share with others .

Speaker 3

Yeah , that's true and we've been trying to catch . We figured out how to weave a web that catches awesome people . Yeah .

Speaker 2

And me You're like a liability of the web .

Speaker 3

You're like oh man , if you buy the 10 , if you need the 10 style strength , you've got to have some kind of adhesive .

Speaker 2

You won't like it .

Speaker 3

It's not going to smell good , but it will work . It's the way that it is .

Speaker 1

Yes .

Speaker 3

And that is the our boss , emily Chamber .

Speaker 1

I could join in on the biggie deep dive conversation to make sure we discuss the dance that Julia Styles does at the party in 10 things I hate about you because that is my cultural reference when you say hypnotize , that's where I'm coming at I man , you come in with those white girl , takes that , I just . The white shit .

Speaker 3

I'm surfing in on a wave of mayonnaise .

Speaker 1

Absolutely fucking wild .

Speaker 3

You said Julius , I was like wow , okay , yeah , wow , that's your biggie . You know I could talk about Tupac , but I'm going to put it in the sentence with Casper the friendly ghost . Well , I mean , that's not fair .

Speaker 1

Obviously , if you're going to be talking about Tupac , it's going to be more of a . Sarah Jessica Parker , Jennifer Jason Lee I don't know why you need three white girl names for it , but you do , yeah , no , no , I love that .

Speaker 3

That makes . That makes Sarah Michelle Gallard probably that that's probably . I don't think she's got three names . Fine , I just want you to give that graduate speech where you like , tap the mic and go . I don't think you can talk about properly . I'm going to go with Casper Tupac Shakur , with the first mentioning Sarah Michelle .

Speaker 1

Gallard . Lose the entire audience except for the one , emily Chambers , in there .

Speaker 3

that's like wait , you have my attention Continue .

Speaker 1

Exactly , that's exactly right .

Speaker 3

All right . Well , we're going to go right from this cultural appropriation . Just , you're going to just erase some of the best musicians we ever come out of the black community . Right , we'll roll it right up into a cigar called Ted Lasso and we're going to smoke it for you . Today , nice , we international break .

This is a period of time where the Premier League takes an international break so that players can go to their respective international teams , where they're from points of points of call around the around the world and play with their national squad in an effort to typically qualify for the World Cup or the Olympics .

I want to apologize because in our what I tend to do is I say , hey , let's run through this on the rapid reaction and then we'll really deep dive it . Then I cheat during the rapid reaction and I tell long stories that while you two are suffering , and when you talk I say hurry up I leisurely just abuse my power with the microphone .

But I did say that Canadian women's national team I was talking about Bev Priestman coach , that I absolutely love and I was like , yeah , then they won the World Cup . I don't know why I was saying that they actually won the Olympic gold , but I'm doing an Emily Chambers here and fixing what I had said in a previous episode .

Because , anyway , when you're a soccer team , a football team , these are the two sort of that . You want to win gold at the Olympics and then you want to win gold , so you're always in this procedure of trying to get on your national team and qualify for some tournament or other . So that's what we have this episode as we open up .

We are soccer Saturday and boss we walk us through the whole . You know , we start out with crew members , standby , camera , one over black , and then we start with Jeff Stilling and what does he say ?

Speaker 1

Hello and welcome to soccer Saturday . I'm Jeff Stilling and here with George Kartrick and Clinton Morrison . Now the hottest team in the country is clearly Richmond on a 10 game winning streak , on the back of some inspired play by Sam Obusania . Jeff , you have to think Sam Obusania will make his Nigerian debut or the world's gone truly mad .

Speaker 3

Right , that is Clinton Morrison saying that . And when you say something like that , you know that the natural result of that is one boss , and you're saying that's the world's gone truly mad . Yeah , he's not making a team . Yeah , you set it up because the world has gone truly mad .

I can point to any one of the foundational structures of our modern civilization oh , you mean this world ?

Speaker 2

Oh yeah , this world and that world . The writers room for this whole . The amount of coke being done in the writers room for this season of America is unbelievable .

Speaker 3

Unbelievable . Yeah no , you wouldn't believe it .

Speaker 2

You know there were murder hornets in the last few years . Nobody talks about it . You know why ? Because that shit is like 898 on the list of crazy shit that's going on in the last five years . Murder hornets yeah , it's come on , man yeah .

Speaker 1

And no , we couldn't even pay attention to that .

Speaker 3

I saw . I saw I'm holding my hand up for the camera here that you guys can't see on the audio version . But see how big my palm is . I'm not bragging . Oh , I thought .

Speaker 2

But I want to say that we were .

Speaker 3

We were in the house the other day and there was a murder . Hornet flew onto the glass window it was as big as my palm and our whole family was there . We just all stared at it , right . And then it just landed right on the sliding glass door and there was a buzzing around for a second .

No one said a word , just the kids are staring , juliana staring , I'm staring , and then it . And then it flew away and the kids look at me like , like scared , like whatever . And then I did what all good dads do and I said that didn't happen , that was it . And then it didn't happen , that's it .

It was all a shared hallucination , because there's no way there's a fucking hornet as big as my palm at our house .

Speaker 1

So can I tell you what the ant reaction to that is ? The giant murder hornet flies up to your house and tries to get in because it's the size of your hand , and you say that didn't happen . And what I would have said was after pointing at it and then turning to the children and that was a baby , just to see how much I could freak him out .

Speaker 3

That is just to see . I really love , by the way , that you say ant because I I'm very upper crusty and I say ant because less we , less we conflate the two . One is an insect and one is a is your , is your mom's sister .

Speaker 1

And I like to say it , it could be either sibling . It's not that sisters only have sisters .

Speaker 3

No , it is .

Speaker 1

Moving right on .

Speaker 3

No , no , that's it . That's all . That's how it works . Boston , read a book . Read a book . Okay , right , right . So the world's gone truly mad . We know out .

Sam Obesanya is not going truly mad , but our top story , okay , oh , I wanted to point out a very little , just this kind of bumped rattled around in my cage when I watched this for the 14th time or whatever . The hottest team in the country is clearly Richmond on a 10 game warming streak on the back of some inspired by Sam Obesanya .

Okay , great , I think we forget we miss something in there , because we get to Sam Obesanya and it's like something shiny being flashed in front of someone with ADHD , like , oh , sam , yeah , I love him . I'm like you know who doesn't have a 10 game winning streak ?

West Ham , west Ham or man City , right , right , if they're the hottest team in the league in that time that they have not lost . Other teams have lost .

And so I just go , oh , yeah , okay , like Wonder Kid , specifically like coach , you know , did his thing where he did the ballet of death in his , in his antechamber by himself at night , right , talking through and fucked up like because they didn't win every game right , or else they wouldn't be , they wouldn't be able to call Again . I know this is not .

Speaker 2

No , no , no , no , no definitely fiction .

Speaker 3

But I'm saying you're right , yeah , no no one else .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it's not like oh , they've both got winning streaks going and when are they going to meet up and blah , blah , blah ? No , he's definitely lost . Now a 10 game winning streak strikes me is pretty impressive . So you could be , you know , seven and three in your last 10 , or whatever , and still be doing fine . But yeah , no , you're definitely right .

Speaker 3

Yeah , no , historically you don't get like . Very rarely do you get like a straight run . You know you have Liverpool will lose to Brighton Hove and Albion . You know you like whatever it'll , you'll get that . They played against the Lofa . There you go .

Speaker 1

Nice , very nice , that's it .

Speaker 3

Ben Jarvis , green , ellis . Yeah , lester City , somebody will come in and and and bite you . That's what you can lose on any on any given matchday . Our top story of the mysterious managerial vacancy at West Ham United . The club has suddenly parted ways with the wonder kid , nathan Shelley . It's a shocker , jeff . Okay , so we open up with this .

I would say neutron bomb being dropped on us .

Speaker 2

Yeah , For sure , You're like wait what . Right .

Toxic Masculinity and Acquiring Power

Speaker 3

And let's talk about the lead in , the lead in , for this was what , coach ? What's the last time we , what's the last thing we saw with the wonder kid Nathan Shelley ?

Speaker 2

Oh shit , I'm sorry coach , no , no , no you know what I said ?

Speaker 3

you know it's so funny . I said I shouldn't throw this to someone with ADHD because how the hell is he going to remember this ? I said we just recorded it the other day so he'll remember that , jade , that he got invited to boss , why don't you tell him ? Just freshen up coach's memory .

Speaker 1

That was the girls at the bar , libby and whoever the other one , that it was the opposite , kelsey , libby , whatever , yeah , and he left strengths with Rupert to go to Jade . You had the idea about the orange of her apartment versus the green of the hallway .

Speaker 2

They okay , got it . Yep , I'm back .

Speaker 3

I just want to point out what an unfair advantage it is that people can remember things Right , coach , that's some bull shit right there .

Speaker 2

Right . Sometimes my brain just is like yeah , no we , we , we erase that and I'm like we erased it , like that just fucking happened . What's going on ?

Speaker 3

Yes .

Speaker 2

Yes .

Speaker 3

It's gone , gone Boss , can just , oh , at a moment's notice . Nope , let me quote back what you said about the thing you forgot . Okay , anyway , welcome to neurodivergent city . We're all , we're all friends here . So , yes , our top story is that Nate has left .

We saw that he had a altercation with well , not altercation , he , he , he pieced out of of the potential champagne . You know there's . What is Chris Rock say is no sex in the champagne .

Speaker 2

The champagne room yeah , but there's sex and this is not this is not a true problem . I'm a feeling there is sex in the champagne room , in this setting , where we shall see . Yeah , all right , yeah .

Speaker 3

I tried to when I was watching that I tried to think of we're good boys , we try to be good boys . I don't know if we all will succeed , but we try to be good boys . Coach and I can't speak for boss , don't think she knows what that would be like Nope , like chaotic , neutral or something .

And but I would say like , oh , like , what I do is I get escorts and I take them back to a back room and then I , and then I do it up with them and I and I go , and now I'm going to look down my nose at somebody that doesn't do that with me and I'm like how , like what ? I don't even understand . I don't know what it is , I don't know .

I'm trying to wrap my brain around , like how I would look down my like when , when the , the withering gaze that Rupert gave to Nate in that moment , were like really man , like like you're not a man maybe or like you don't get it , bro , Like this is , this is what you , why you do this .

Yeah Well , you do everything is to get to the level where you can go , do that . I'm just like wait , that's the . Those are the trappings of whatever you think this is . I'm like , oh my God , it just feels like like . It feels like human trafficking to me .

Speaker 2

But I mean think of it in the context of like , excuse me , people will say , like I don't trust a man who doesn't drink . What the hell ? What are you talking about ? You know , you like I , yeah sure , great , if you drink , great , and if you don't drink , also great . Well , I , you know what do I give a shit ?

I probably shouldn't have had as many drinks as I've had . To this point , I mean like , but there's , that's a thing , that's a real thing that people believe in and use as like a way to figure out who to trust and who's like a real man , and it's weird . It's weird .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I think it's pretty much wrapped up in a form of toxic masculinity that thinks of itself as being more upper class than other versions . Rupert is not going to get into a fist fight . That's not how he does his toxic masculinity . He does this in the version of we . I have earned the right to act in this despicable way .

And because he's , well it's more like it's .

Speaker 3

It's a yes , that's right , you're a hundred percent right . Part of it , I know , is unfettered acquisition of assets , whatever those assets may be . Yep , you know what I mean . So it's like I think part of it is like I can get everything that we talked about this . I can speed when no one else can speed , I can . I can .

I get the insider trading tip before anybody else gets it . And when that stock goes up , I already knew about it . I'd already bought in even before anybody knew . You know , at the company knew it was going to happen because I golfed with the CEO . It's that . It's that fast lane of access to acquiring humans , possessions , wealth . It's a .

Speaker 1

Well , I think that there's also an element of it that he believes everybody would act this way if they were able to and if you have the ability to and choose not to . It is because you are stupid , because everybody else will do this if they got the chance . Yes , you just obviously don't understand how the system works , I think was the look that he was .

What he was giving me Like . Oh , you have no idea how this is .

Speaker 2

But I'm with you totally that he has that . I also think , though , that underneath that , in an unspoken way , if you don't do it , you shine a light on my choice to do it .

Yes , if we should behave this way , then that , and if you notice , there's a , there's a subsection of our , of our nation and , I would think , probably the world in some form or another , where arguments around how we should behave lead to .

Well , everybody does , everybody inside or trace , I mean , come on , everybody , I mean because there's a safety then I can't really be wrong . Wrong because everybody does it .

I think part of what Nate did is like truly call out Rupert because , like I'm going home to my girlfriend , you do what you got to do and I , you know , I don't think a guy like Rupert can stand that .

Speaker 1

No , definitely not . I think that it's the same way that when dirty cops take money or steal drugs or do whatever else , they need everybody on the squad to do it in order to make sure nobody can get it . Nobody's going to rat him out .

Speaker 3

I mean , listen , listen . I remember I said I grew up with a guy who was a , who was a made guy , like he wasn't made but his family is made , but it was one of the tenets of business for him . He's like you got to get everybody a little dirty , everybody . You make sure you pay everybody . He's like you cannot get greedy .

He's like you make $100 and you think I should get $98 of those dollars . You've already fucked up . Tell me this point blank from his dad teaching him this you take $50 and then you give somebody 20 of it . You give somebody you know left over $50 , you give somebody 25 , then you give another guy 10 , you get another six , you give another guy two .

So every time he pilfer something tiny , he gets two bucks . And then his boss gets eight bucks and his boss gets 14 bucks and all of a sudden they're bringing in all that stuff . You don't have to . They want the two bucks and all and you don't have to pay anything . You get your 50 bucks for nothing .

He's like everybody screws it up but you have to make sure everybody has their fingers in the cookie jar . You don't need a loan . Yeah , there's a , there is . Everything you guys are saying is fantastic . It's 100% right . That light is shown on Rupert by Nate's Choice .

There are people who get in power in this country and other countries who immediately turn into a kleptocracy and they cannot imagine absolutely inconceivable that someone have an altruistic reason for public service . Public service is to rip off the government coffers and anyone that doesn't .

Not only are they stupid , but they're like a fool and a child , because that's what you do and they can't conceive of somebody having a higher sort of calling .

Speaker 2

There was something that people were saying online and the phrase is not coming to me , speaking of memory issues , but it was sort of like damn , it was like value posing , but that's not the phrase , but essentially , if you said you got it , you got it , boss , virtue signaling . There it is .

Speaker 3

I had it too , yeah , boss .

Speaker 2

So , so virtue signaling like that strikes me as like a version of what you just described , because it was like , let's say , I would say , hey , we should probably , like you know , stop cutting women off when they're talking and sort of listen to the whole sentence . And then it's like oh , this guy virtue signaling .

So it becomes it's not just you're different than me or think a different thing , it's you know that you're a man , you think the way I think , because that's the way everybody thinks .

But now you're just saying that to look good , which is quite a twist on what is going on , like somehow now I am the one lacking morally , because I would , I'm all I'm not , I'm now a liar , like I'm a fraud , because I'm saying this thing that doesn't line up with what everybody thinks .

Speaker 3

Well , in fairness , I , you are a fraud , definitely .

Speaker 2

Like . I don't like . What are we talking about ?

Speaker 3

Yeah , there's come on . And then , second of all , like cutting off women while they speak is one of the great joys of the patriarchy . So why would we ever right , boss , am I right ? So what I'm thinking about ? Oh , be quiet , boss . So thank you .

Speaker 1

Nice job you , we did it , folks , we did it , we did it , yes , we did it we did it Right , totally in sync .

Speaker 3

Oh my God , that was like a Vulcan mind meld boss , we need one of those alley-oop gifts just to somehow superimpose on the sound . Yeah , yeah , it's terrible , it's terrible .

But anyway , the reason we have gone down this , this rabbit hole , is to try to let's , let's , calibrate what Nate might be thinking in the off season , in the hiatus between episodes where he apparently tendered his resignation .

Speaker 2

Well , right and so well , at least all the elements leading up to it , right ? Well , we don't know that , we don't know what happened . All we know is he is no longer there , but they don't say Resignation , they don't say firing , they don't say he got hit by a bus . There's a job over at West Ham . Wait what ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , but they parted ways , not how they parted ways and . I think the first time that I watched this I can't remember if I included in the rapid response , but I think that I thought Rupert must have fired him , that there it must have been a series of small things , and Definitely where I went .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , that's definitely where .

Speaker 3

I think later in this I correct me if I'm wrong . We'll look at , we'll check the show notes . I don't think we'll get there today but I think in a couple episodes we're gonna get to the line where J Nate is lying in bed and Jade says oh are you sad that you quit , or something .

Speaker 2

Oh yeah , no , no , no , he does . I'm saying at this moment yes in the show .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I didn't think that we do . We don't know . We don't know at this moment . Okay , got it . I ain't too good with words , so I'm glad you clarified that . It's a shocker , jeff . They were having a great season ,

Coaching Hierarchy and Recycled Coaches

yeah . But look , here comes the beautiful Bill Fellows as George Cartrick . I actually I've become so enamored with what a great job Bill Fellows did with George Cartrick because it's so repellent and gross that I'm like I kind of dig Bill Fellows . I'm like I should go back and watch some of his stuff . I went to his IMDB page .

I'm like it's a lot of tea , a lot of British TV . So I'm like I , what I ? Where can I dip in and just catch some of this ? But what does he say here , coach , this is , this is so good and you love it because it's so unabashedly . Oh , there's a , there's a reason he says this and read it first and then tell us the reason .

Speaker 2

Rupert Manning is the brains behind this operation and in real time . Watching this I was like way to interview for the job like Un-bullied you know who's excellent ?

Speaker 3

Jeff Bezos , yeah , but look nature , he isn't the reason . West Hammer in second place . I mean wonder , kid , come on , he was my kit man . For God's sake , I'm gonna .

Speaker 2

I'm gonna jump on that too , in that there's a fair amount in this episode and some of it will get to in this and as we go through the rest around who's viewed how based on status . I mean that's throughout the show , but I feel like it is heavily in this episode .

And Think about the , the , the , the judgmental , not curious of Saying that because someone was a kit man . They are obviously in cable . Well , it's not like , wait a minute . They are incapable of ever being the gaffer . I'm like , wow , that is so far from Ted . Right , ted going . Hey , good idea comes from anywhere .

Guys literally empty in the , my garbage can Pocket pulled out of play . We're using it .

Speaker 1

Well , and it's also such a weird thing to say like , are you only supposed to give coaches coaching jobs ? Because at what point do you become ? What is the starting , what's the entry point there ? Maybe , it's not a man , but it has to be like . There needs to be a way of working off .

Speaker 2

It's just that he is simultaneously Upholding this hierarchy that he believes in , because coaches are supposed to be coaches , while also denying that Anybody is supposed to start at the bottom of that and I love that you point that out because Specifically in coaching but I think we see it in all sorts of places and people Ruin companies and get hundreds of millions

of dollars to go home and think about it , the number of coaches who get recycled . I'm thinking specifically right now because football seasons coming or American football .

Speaker 3

Oh my god , yes , the coaches who ?

Speaker 2

get recycled . It is infuriating and you're like oh my god , he has been mediocre . Three times We've watched him be three times over over 25 years .

Speaker 3

He's getting head coaching gigs .

Speaker 2

Yes , you know what I'll do . I'll just go hang out down in Alabama with Nick Saban for a year and then that puts the shine right back on me and then I'll be right back in the league fucking up some other team . It's unbelievable .

Speaker 3

I love that . Yeah , this is a little bit inside baseball to international viewers , yes , but like no , no , no , no , no , don't be sorry , I'm saying I'm just gonna explain it . Nick Saban is a Multi , very decorated college football coach who I wouldn't cross the street to piss on if he were on fire . Nothing is a bad guy , but he's such a dud .

Some of these guys that are just like you're like oh God , there's just nothing there . But yeah , they know how to make a winning football and once you get the recruiting down , yeah , if all the best kids want to come to your school to be with the other best kids like Alabama .

Yeah , I mean listen , speaking as a former athlete , the only thing I ever wanted to do was end up in Alabama . God bless you .

Speaker 1

Alabama . There's not a lot of reasons people would say that like . Yeah , I grew up in a town where you would have a lot of similar reactions From the people around us , or Aurora , oh , okay , so . I'm not really not not trying to dog Alabama , but that is . It's one of the few draws I have to admit . I'm sorry . Alabama , I love you .

Speaker 3

Yeah , there there are . Listen up , I've been through Alabama . It's great , the great people , or whatever , but it's like it's not exactly , it's not London . So so , yeah , it's I .

I got in trouble for saying that , remember , I said that about Kansas City and then , and then boss immediately like tweeted hey , kansas City , here's coach Castleton shitting on you and saying you're not London . So , yeah , I can't wait for those incoming tweets from the good people of Alabama . But , um , yeah , still , listen , the the we get .

We get George Cartrick applying for the job . But also , I just want to point out Bill Fellows , as George Cartrick does a fantastic job of . In the same way , last episode he was able to tinge his criticism of Isaac going into the stands with the ever-present Sheen of beautiful systemic racism . Like he , he's an animal .

You know that kind , that type of you know what I mean , that type of vibe where you don't say it , but like you're just going , I'm a bigot . And then I get that same thing like he's my kit man , like , like , he's obviously like , not a white coach , he's a kit man . Hi , hello , you know what I mean . Like he's got that . It's very subtle .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , no , it's , it's in there , though you do kind of feel , yeah , no , I get it he just has a way of baking it in .

Speaker 3

I think and you know it's , it's , it's nauseating Ruben man is the brains behind the operation . Let's turn attention . Oh , it's funny . No , ruben man is the brains of the whole operation . If you watch this again , watch how Jeff goes . Okay , I was like Jeff , you just rolled over baby .

Speaker 2

I noticed . I noticed it . Yeah , he it . When I took from it is . He was like I . I could respond to that , but this is soccer Saturday and we need to go the next segment . I like I don't like . I felt the gears go and he was like , yes , moving on we got to keep moving .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I am .

Late-Night Talk Show and Birthday Mishaps

One of the great joys in my life is I look forward to someday . I Picture when they're looking to fill a late-night talk show . They will . They will hire , the show will be taken over by what I like to think of as coach and boss , and it'll be .

You know , there's always the desk is on the right here looking at camera and the desk is always on the right side .

Speaker 2

I'm like , what if there's a talk ?

Speaker 3

show right . What if there's a talk show where Orlando , coach , orlando's on the left side and Coach and then boss is on the right side . Okay , and Somebody in Hollywood dreams up like this is gonna be the best late-night talk show . It's coach and boss . I get fully fucking eliminated .

Speaker 2

Eliminated . I love , even in your fantasy you get jerk thrown over . No , it goes .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I know it goes for me and then I will someday look forward to being George Karchik and being like they were my fucking color commentary . Now they're the biggest thing in late-night . Don't fuck yourself . This is my dream , this is , this is our concern , dude .

Speaker 1

I mean , I understand where you're coming from with that . I do need to say , though , the ideal Combination is actually going to be Amber Ruffin and John Oliver . They're already late-night pros , and I would watch them do anything for any amount of time , regardless of how good it was , because it would be oh yeah , no , they're amazing .

Speaker 2

I agree with you on both fronts . Amber Ruffin , though , has perfected Something that I just like . There's certain kinds of comedy right that , just like that works for me , and there's something about fake Doide innocence , as the person says , the most outrageous shit you've ever heard .

Yeah , that always fucking lays me out , and I'm like if I said the thing she just said , oh my god , the cancellation would be in motion before I finish the sentence . And she says it . You're just like oh , it's really , you know again .

Speaker 3

We don't want to throw , we want to throw as much love as we can at Seth Meyers . But wasn't there a segment called like jokes Seth ?

Speaker 1

jokes yes , yes , can't tell with Amber . Ruffin and Jenny .

Speaker 3

Hey , yeah , yes , yes , thank you , boss . I love your encyclopedic knowledge of late-night sketch comedy . It is fantastic .

Speaker 1

Still don't know my best friend's birthday with that I remember there's so much wrong with you .

Speaker 3

You texted this to us the other day . Curiosity do you guys know your best friend's birthday and we're like , yes , duh and their kids , and you're like this couldn't have gone better for me .

Speaker 1

Thank you , yeah , no , yeah , I was . I was texting with a friend of mine and she and I got into this hilarious discussion and I think I'd mentioned on the podcast before , but there was a woman .

Speaker 3

I can't remember if it was a .

Speaker 1

Twitter thread or if it was a stand-up or something . But she was saying that she knows two guys who also know each other , like they are friends and she is also friends with each of them . And the three of them went out to lunch when she was in town or whatever , to catch up . And she says to the one friend so how was the wedding planning going ?

And their buddy goes oh my god , you're engaged . And she was like do you ? Do you two not talk to each other ? Do you like , do you just do nothing ?

Speaker 2

You told me .

Speaker 1

What is happening ?

Speaker 3

But , we also . Yeah , I don't know , you did say this and I told you . This is very common . Yes very calm . So , like Orlando and Daphne , you'll be doing something . Orlando gets like oh , he had to get rushed to the hospital for his pancreas right . Daphne tells Juliana hey , just a heads up . Oh sorry I haven't called you , it's been real busy .

Orlando has whatever with his pancreas right . And then I'm on the phone with Orlando for three hours . Juliana goes .

Speaker 1

I'm like what yeah ?

Speaker 3

why would we talk about that ? We were talking about fantasy football . That's stupid .

Speaker 1

Yeah , no , I just that's stupid , I don't know . I think that I the reason I texted you guys is that I actually needed a group of men who were friends Like , not just couple friends . So I feel like that's also such a gender thing . But the woman will take over , be like , oh , this is when their birthday is .

So I would like to say the responses I got were not only perfect , but also Absolutely what I predicted , like no question .

Speaker 2

Really .

Speaker 3

Yes , I Want to point out . I Want coach to say I was offended .

Speaker 2

Because , I was like is he gonna let this go by ?

Speaker 3

No , we're side-stepping . Coach , coach , why don't you say can you read what your text ?

Speaker 2

I'm pulling it up right now . So , boss , do you have that ?

Speaker 3

in front of you . Can you read what the actual question was ? And then coach , I want you to read your response . Yes , for our listeners , and I thank you To all our friends , all our friends in Romania , all of our friends in Ethiopia .

Speaker 2

We have friends all over the world . We're not doing a deep dive of our text threads .

Speaker 1

So that's fascinating I just want everyone to hear what my life is Awfair so I said apologies for the random text , but I got stoned to celebrate the possibility of Mitch McConnell's demise . Yeah , that is what I did . It looks like he had some sort of seizure or stroke and I'm sorry .

I am enjoying that and I am now having a hilarious discussion with one of my five , one of my five

Friend's Birthdays and Ted Lasso

friends . My question for you is Do you know your best friend's birthday ?

Speaker 2

To which I responded November 13th Jamal . December 9th , Demani . June 25th asshole and who's first ? Day was what's wrong with that ?

Speaker 1

Who's birthdays , june 25th .

Speaker 3

Here's . Here's the thing about that . I am a lot of things , but like I feel like the asshole on this podcast is boss .

Speaker 1

Absolutely .

Speaker 3

But yeah , no , that was , that was how and it took me a second . I must be getting old . I'm like , oh yeah , jamal , oh you bet , okay , yeah . And then asshole oh , he's got the same birthday as me .

Speaker 2

That really happened anyway amazing .

Speaker 3

Ruben men is the brains behind soul operation . Jeff says okay and also in the okay is I hope your job interview goes well . I would love to get you off this show , right . Right , let's turn our attention to the international break . National squad announcements are trickling in which players will get the honor of representing their country .

All right , fellas way to play out there today . Congratulations on yet another victorious outcome . The team cheers and applause . I was like , oh , victorious outcome . I was like Something about that . I'm like is this Ted lasso ? Is this the lasso way ? I guess it is . I guess once you roll into victorious outcome territory , you can just say victorious outcome .

I Don't know something about .

Speaker 2

It was like Formality of it , or what do you mean ?

Speaker 3

Does it seem Ted last week you like , just on first blush , you're fine with it , right Like that's .

Speaker 2

It struck me as like he's doing a thing . I don't think . He generally says you know , we have , you know , eight victorious outcomes this season , but I took it .

Speaker 3

I guess , like he's , like I don't care about you know , I don't care about wins , I just care about making these boys the best they can be , and so I'm like okay . So that was . Is that the is ? Have you now gotten onto the ? We should be winning train ? Is that what actually has beard successfully , you know ? Smack some sense into you .

I don't know , I don't know . I don't know what it was , but something about it it wasn't a hundred . I wasn't fully there with that line . Whatever , I promise you , it was written by somebody on fucking no-dose at 4 am . It's the throwaway line . They just had to get to it . But go ahead , boss . What are you gonna say ?

Speaker 1

Well , it number one . I think it might be indicating that they have won so many times that he needs to switch up how we saying it , so he doesn't want to come out every time I say Congrats on another win . The other thing about your . Does he actually not care about wins and losses ? I don't really care that much about award shows .

I feel like they have gotten so many things so wrong so often that the best picture Oscar , like it might be a movie I love . I'm not gonna say that it's necessarily the best picture of the year . Um , however , I do want people that I like to win those awards even though I don't care about them .

So I think that there could be a way that he enjoys the win , even if winning isn't the important thing for him . No , but actually I have been noticing that too . I can't tell if it's that I need to get closer or further away . I think it might be something about the .

I have three actual screens up right now , because I've got my work laptop and my laptop and then a second screen , so I think it's some combination of extremely bad lighting . I might need to get one of those ring lights or put on makeup or something I'm not going to be myself .

Speaker 3

Oh , no , no , no , you look fine , but usually , like you usually start out , you know , like a corpse from a movie and then , as you get more and more tired , you get that beat red hue and I always get the like lingering sense that , like it's barely contained rage directed at me , sure , and so the redder you get , the more .

I think we got to wrap this up , because oh no , I think you're you know what I mean .

Speaker 1

I think you're mistaking my Irish for rage , which is easily to understand because they are often the same things . That's not far apart at all .

Speaker 3

But I don't get the no . I appreciate that I don't get the same cues from from coach , because he has he has black skin . Well , you know what I mean ? It's just , it just doesn't show that real . You know , I look at it , I can't tell anything .

Speaker 2

It's like Usually , yeah , if I'm mad I'll start a right or some shit , you know right , yeah , I like that .

Speaker 3

No , there's no knowing it's going to come . It's just pure calm , serenity , exactly .

Speaker 2

And then I'm just spikily throwing a garbage can .

Speaker 3

I've actually been in those rooms with your coach .

Speaker 1

Yeah , okay , okay .

Speaker 3

So Victoria's outcome . That's right . Oh , hey , quick reminder because they're breaking our schedule to international play . There's no game next week , all right , hey , look , kind of hurts my feelings . Y'all don't want to spend next weekend with me , if I'm being honest . But I am strong , silent type , so I'm going to like , going to let you know .

But I'm also loud and weak because I , like all humans , contain multitudes , am I right ?

Speaker 2

I think that's far more than a throwaway . I mean , it's a very Ted kind of like I'm just going now right , like I was just like where's the next vine for me to grab as I go through this .

But I think the show big picture and in this episode , with some stuff that we'll start seeing in a moment , it's really true , like you really watch people change roles , you know , on this total thing .

But in seriousness , like in the context of this episode in the next couple , I feel like you really watch one minute somebody's the person was completely lost and needing a mentor . The next minute they're the mentor , the next minute somebody else . It's like really about their story and other people assisting them . So I think that's .

I think that particular line is there very intentionally .

Speaker 3

I think that's great , coach , and maybe that ants in your pants sort of take on the non-platoing nature of continuing relationships is what ended up pissing me off with some of the late season storylines , where , because you're saying like , hey , listen , somebody needs it right now . Okay , now they're fine .

And then , oh , now this other person needs it , now they're fine . And so , instead of just leaving the characters fine that I thought were fine , sometimes they're like oh , now they're having a hiccup of they're having a crisis , of something . I'm like , no , like they don't need a crisis , they're fine , they're done yeah .

Yeah , so they , yeah , but yes , we all contain multitudes , am I right ? And great speech . Anywho , we want to say good night and good luck to that's a good night and good luck is what .

Speaker 1

The sign off or the movie , because it was both .

Speaker 3

Both what , what ? Yeah , say it up boss .

Speaker 1

So the sign off . God . Why am I blanking out his name now ? I'm supposed to be the encyclopedic memory one , but the news anchor from the fifties . And then George Clooney did the movie starring David . What the hell is that guy's last name ? Is anybody Googling any of these things for me at the moment ?

Speaker 3

Yeah yeah , david Stratham there we go .

Speaker 1

Shit , I love him actually I can't believe I forgot his last name . Yeah , good night , good luck . The sign off that during the McCarthy trials Edward Armour , there we go , edward Armour

International Soccer Representation and Changing Perspectives

. I used to say that good night and good luck when he was signing off , and it was not the best time in American politics , but one that we might look back on fondly , unfortunately , sometimes .

Speaker 3

Oh my God , yeah , oh , it's amazing , it's here . It's fascinating to see when people had principles yeah Mild , yeah Crazy . So good luck to the fellows on our squad that have been chosen to represent their home country next week . Coach , who are we talking about ? And boss , what does Beard say ?

Speaker 1

Just up the way at Wembley making his debut for England . Jamie Tartt Taking the plane to Toronto to play goal for Canada . Van Damme .

Speaker 3

Yeah , he's got a plane ticket , here we go .

Speaker 1

Who will be going up against Mexico and Danny Rojas ?

Speaker 3

Yeah , so Canada is playing Mexico in the Conca Calf Final , in the Conca Calf Call of Fire , and so that will come into play Canada versus Mexico . Woo .

Speaker 1

Okay , keep going . Bumpercatch , holding it down for Switzerland .

Speaker 3

Yes , my guy , Wait , hold on , Bumpercatch . You're Swiss and Bumpercatch says what ? Coach ?

Speaker 2

Sorry , I was checking something . Just throw it to me again . Sorry , I was overheating the doc . It just when you guys are like ah , ah , ah .

Speaker 3

That's shit . I wish Luke just leave it in , because it was so great , his facial expression was so great , and sometimes I don't want to throw it to Coach because I'm like I don't think he's with us , I don't think he's here , I think they're gone .

Speaker 2

I was searching the doc right then , but no , I'm here , let's do it .

Speaker 3

Ted says wait , hold on Bumpercatch , you're Swiss .

Speaker 2

Yeah , look at me .

Speaker 3

And then Ted does I really do love this about Ted . I really like when and I think he's done this with Bumpercatch before this is like a very Bumpercatch , sort of Bumpercatch related response by Ted , because this also is like yeah , I chew my cereals or whatever . What does that eat my cereal without chewing ? In case there's a race war or whatever ?

Right , what was he saying ? Not a race war A ?

Speaker 2

class war .

Speaker 3

I'm hanging around with Coach too , but goddamn race war on the horizon , class war .

Speaker 1

Class war . He needs to save his energy .

Speaker 3

Yeah Right , save his energy . And Ted says , oh yeah , you know , yeah , I get that . And so he says when you look at me , he's like , oh no , you know you're right . And there's also another one earlier . And what is it ? Does anyone remember ? God , this is like season one-ish , when somebody says something to Ted .

It's like oh God , I feel like it's in Rebecca's office . Our buttercups are going to be furiously .

Speaker 1

Just shouting at us right now .

Speaker 2

They're rolladex at the scale .

Speaker 3

But there's a moment where someone says something to Ted like hey , it's not quite the unpacking , it's not quite that early , but there's this , was it ?

Speaker 2

the Akufo when he doesn't shake his hand , because he starts to tell Sam oh , he has a shake hands and then he does a whole , he gives Sam dat and then you see him kind of go like , all right , that's fair .

Speaker 3

Wait , you see Sam do it or Ted do it .

Speaker 2

Sam and Edwin dap each other up . So Ted has been told he does a shake hands and so he's kind of like all right , that's fair , I get it . You guys have a special thing going on here . You could just see him kind of decide to let it ride .

Speaker 3

What was on Key and Peel ? Wasn't there that moment where Obama greets all ?

Speaker 1

his donors .

Speaker 3

And he goes through the line and it's like right Coach Walk is so fucking good .

Speaker 2

Because he shakes hands . He's like hey Lou , how are you doing ? And he gets so black , he's like my man , and then he's going to get his hands on it . And then he goes there's like some black woman , and he's like come here , come on come on man . It's so good and so funny and it's obviously his comedy , so they blow it out . But it is kind of true .

I'm thinking of times that , you know , I'm like , yeah , that's right . I would think it was weird if I met Obama and he just gave me straight up hello , how are you ? I'm not saying that we're going to break into some routine , but I would expect something that says yeah , I see you .

Speaker 3

It's funny because I never liked Dion Sanders , Never liked him . Prime , when he was fully on , the best cornerback shut down corn in the NFL . For those people outside the country who don't know the national football league , I just don't like a real show Bodie kind of guy .

Speaker 2

I was going to say he is the prototype of what you don't like .

Speaker 3

Yeah , no , I just plain don't like . I appreciate his skill . He is a . He was a God on the field . You could not beat him , you could not throw at him . He would punish you every single time . It was amazing .

So I'm not maligning his skills , but just as a litmus test to show how far or how different I don't say how far I've come on a brag a little bit .

Speaker 2

Look how great .

Speaker 3

I am now , but I remember once upon a time hearing he used to have this series of camps football camps , these clinics and he would make them I think they were even free or something Like you would just go and like little boys all over the whatever was like in the Atlanta area to start , and then it was whatever .

And I remember reading these threads where fathers would say , hey , my kid went to the camp and it was really good . But then he would call kids up and put them in the front line and he would walk up and talk to them quietly . He didn't know what was going on and he realized he was prioritizing all the black kids , Right .

And I remember being like , oh , that's not cool . This was like what to whatever 15 , 20 years .

Speaker 2

Like oh , that sucks Like that . And then I thought wait a second .

Speaker 3

That's probably the only place in their lives at that time that anybody made them in the front row Prioritized yeah , right here , yes . And I was like , oh , my God , oh , and so for me . I'm like now I look back , I'm like , oh , good job , dion Center and now retro .

Actually I'm like , yeah , I know , I've always been kind of into Dion and kind of like this thing , but it's just how your perspective changes over the years . And then the trickle down effect . I want to tell you guys this I will brag about because this is something I'm very proud of . It just happened .

The other day I got an email from my nine-year-olds teacher . This is the summer . Right now we're in the summer , we're in summer break . And she says Thor , I forgot to tell you something the last day of school . I talk about how my kids are not real athletes . I was a big athlete . They're not into it . They're not .

It's not something they do Whatever , but they don't do it . It's not their thing . Totally fine . But my daughter is one of the people who she's not the first kid picked on the schoolyard . When you have captains and then you pick , she said , thor , I'll tell you this , but I knew you have . All people are going to love this .

I made your daughter on the last day . She was one of the captains and she proceeded to pick all the kids that got picked last .

Speaker 1

Hell yes . Hell yes , so what was ?

Speaker 3

happening was she was getting jeered . The teacher says they were jeering her because she's picking all these kids that never get picked . She goes bam , I'll take the kid that . This kid's clearly on the spectrum and he's always picked last where she's like that's my number one draft pick . And the kids mock , jeering Like oh my god , are you crazy ?

And then they pick the superstar athlete is what the other kid picks , right ? And then she goes and picks the second worst kid on the team and they're like are you out of your mind ? Like they're overtly mocking her for her picks . And she just stood there , resolute , and just went right down the line and picked every kid that doesn't get picked .

And I said this is you know what . This is a credit to Dionne Sanders , because I was you know what I'm saying In a tiny , tiny way me noticing that little thing on a message board years ago , then having coach fucking educate me for 20 years about racial inequity and like you don't see it if you don't see it , and then one day in the field .

So now that little boy that got picked first for the first time . The teacher says the only time he got picked first all year . Now someone has modeled good behavior to him and I think , like this is all we need to do is just keep it , keep that train rolling . But I didn't tell you guys that and I was very proud of it .

Speaker 2

You should be . That's why you should be . That's awesome yeah .

Speaker 3

Isn't that cool . Nine years old .

Speaker 2

That's great Hell yes .

Speaker 1

Also , why the hell are schools still letting kids ?

Speaker 2

pick out kids like that . Yeah , I mean it feels like , yeah , it's just Split them up , just split them up .

Just split them up , man Like come on and I actually , in practice , one thing I would do , because I do have , you know , like , especially because football is like , well , I need , if I have two quarterbacks , like I put one on this squad if they're going to scrimmage or whatever .

I got to kind of think that stuff through , but I used to make a lot of those lists ahead of time and then that way it's just like this name , this name , this name , this name , this name , this name run down there , this name , this name . You know what I mean . Like you don't have to like shine a light .

Speaker 3

That's definitely the right way to do it . Yeah , no question . So yeah , bombercatcher , you're Swiss . Yeah , look at me . No , no , no , you're right . Yeah , all right , that's how we got into this . Was trying to figure out how Ted .

He just does this thing where he like OK , yeah , but I really like this about Ted because it is really prime curious and not judgmental . Go ahead , boss .

Speaker 1

Is it the leftover rice you got to warm up ? And Danny says something about how he got diarrhea from it or something for a season , oh , I think Sam says he was throwing up , he was sick from both ends .

Speaker 2

whatever he said and then Danny says the body really is a miracle .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and Ted's like all right , all right , yeah , no , that is true .

Speaker 3

That is true . The body really is a miracle . Oh , fucking Danny , so beautiful . Yes , that's exactly right . Yes , boss , thank you , great save . That is what I'm talking about . These little beats where Ted just goes OK , yeah , I'm like that is a good . Default response is to just go along with it Because you're not hurting anybody .

You can just say , ok , sure , yeah , At all .

Speaker 2

And what's interesting , too , is I've been back to watching these Stoke videos and all of a sudden that's coming up all the time . But one thing that they talk about you don't have to have an opinion on everything .

We kind of live in a world right now with social media , but where it really feels like you should , right , some people do it jokingly , other people really like seriously right , like they're going at it about everything . I am so worn out on some of the sports debates that won't go away .

But this is where we are and I like that idea of being like I don't have to have an opinion on what the fuck Bumbercatch eats for breakfast or why . I don't have to Like OK , that's what you do , ok , moving on , I think we feel like we have to speak on it , or we have to have a view , or there's a way to do it .

This is how you eat your breakfast . God calm down .

Speaker 3

I'm certain I wish we had our Queen of the Buttercups here , jenna , who could tell us far better than I could with her 12 advanced degrees . Jenna , by the way , is down under , I think , right now .

I haven't checked in with her in the last couple days , or it's been a couple , like two weeks , but or three weeks , something like that , since we've traded emails . I think it's been a little bit , although I lose , I'm time blind , so it might be longer , but we remember that Jenna was going down to watch the Women's World Cup .

But Jenna would tell us something like , I think , last time I said oh wait , doesn't an ACL mean you won't tear it ? And she's like no , actually that's the opposite . So I'm sure Jenna would correct me .

Wherever you are , jenna , I'm not trying to falsely attribute this to you , but I'm sure that I've read somewhere that the human brain is literally not designed to keep track of the amount of information that we take in and just literally not biologically designed for that , and once upon a time I don't know was seen as a demerit in a boardroom , in whatever

various places . And now I think it's kind of a cool low-key power move when you're like I don't know and I'm OK with not knowing . I just don't know . Why would I know everything about everything ? I'll read for you . You guys know that I'm in a gaming group and this is one of the members of my gaming group . This is what happens when

Ted Lasso and Character Relationships

I go to game . Now this dude , who's the son of two philosophy professors , just talks like this the whole time in my year while I'm trying to shoot things . It's like tangent . But my buddy's take from Peterson there is social Marxism inspired by readings of Focult , focult , f-o-u-c-a-u-l-t , focult and Dorita that have got the kids all hopped up .

After he delivers the words , he heard Peterson say how many people do you personally know and have read Focult and Dorita , excluding me ? Oh , zero Cool , yeah , me too . Cool social theory . To which I responded duh Duh Ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha ha , duh Ah . He says this is him doing a take down of the internet incel hero , jordan Peterson .

But I'm like I don't know , man , I don't read Focult . I feel like it's Focult . I feel like a Focult , is it ? I feel like something feels wrong to me .

Speaker 1

Thought that that was it , Although God Whatever .

Speaker 3

Listen , I'm gaming tonight , so I'm going to hear him fucking . Yeah , I'll talk , I'll report back . I'm sorry that I'm not up on this , but again , how could we be ? I can tell you how to tie your laces when you play soccer . I cannot tell you a lot about incels and modern takes on Dorita . So , yes , I don't know . Is it an OK answer ?

Being curious about it , I like leaders that'll say yeah , I don't mind being the dumbest person in the room . That's why I hire great people Like happy to be surrounded by experts everywhere . It's like there's no ego to it , it's something feels very Ted Lassoy . And Ted's response to yeah , look at me from Bummercatcher Swiss feels so appropriate .

And so Ted Lasso . And in my heart of hearts , as we finish , we come to the end of the show . These are the moments that I will take with me as I think about the show in the future , once we stop directly podcasting . 22 episodes per Ted Lasso episode . It's these really pretty moments where he's just curious and cool and easy , and it's real Ted Lasso .

Ok , good , now , I really love it . I really love it . So , ok , wrapping Whales , colin Hughes . Take it away , boss . Keep going there .

Speaker 1

Wrapping Whales Colin Hughes , and then the locker room gassing everybody off . Let's go Boyle . And then nothing from Beards . Ted says . Is that it Beards says ? And that's it , which is the obvious . World gone mad because Sam's name was not called .

Speaker 3

Yeah . Yeah , that's crazy . Sam's having the he's playing out of his head . Ok , all right . Well , let's go ahead and wish our friends safe travels in Godspeed or whatever narcotic your deity chooses to self-medicate with . I like that , Joe . You like that for Godspeed .

Speaker 2

I like it . I did , I know , I knew , I heard it and I was like I'm going to be on an island , but I've got to be true to who I am . That one kind of made me chuckle .

Speaker 3

Rest of y'all . See you on Monday . And now . This is just a stunningly beautiful moment If you go back and watch how Jamie treated Sam . Deriding him , mocking him absolutely is terrible . And he goes up says , oh 24 . Coach , walk us through this .

Speaker 2

Oh 24 . They fucked you , man , I'm sorry . And Sam responds it's OK . Hey , congrats to you , though . And then Jamie's response is listen , you're good . Yeah , and he really wants to know if he's good . When he asked him that , I got the sense .

If Sam had said , oh man , that's you know I always it was my dream I think Jamie would have walked into the weight room with him and they would have talked about it . I don't think that was like you're good , because I'm about to go celebrate and I don't want to be . That was sincere .

He was like I want to check on you before I go deal with everybody else . I really like it , just as a character thing .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I felt like it was similar to season one , when Keely goes to Rebecca's office and Rebecca doesn't know about newbacks yet and when Keely is leaving , she says you've got this , like you've got this , and if you don't , you can call me , but you've got this . So I think it was checking in and saying like are you good ?

But also like you're good , you can handle this . I believe that you can handle this . If you can't you , let me know , but I believe in you that you can .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I love the element of it where it's not checking a box . We keep saying , oh , checking on you . We're using the term check a lot , but it's not like , ah crap , I want to celebrate , but this guy over here got screwed , so I have to go do this .

Speaker 2

Oh , not at all .

Speaker 3

It's not that at all . It is genuine .

You think about when West Ham beats Richmond and Ted goes to shake Nate's hand and Nate is so hopped up on his victory that he doesn't even like he's so self-focused or just all consumed in his thing and never even occurs to him He'd be like , oh wait , my friend Ted , whatever , or my mentor , or the guy that got me off shit-taking duty or whatever .

He was just lost , like whatever . This is what's part of it when you build this relationship . It goes in that way . And then the duality of both people looking out for each other is Sam equally here is like , hey , congrats to you , like he actually is very happy . It doesn't diminish . Yes , he's disappointed Totally fucking blows . It makes zero sense .

In that moment he's got to be like what ? What do I have to do ? This is a crushing blow . Let's not glide past the fact that this is his life stream .

Speaker 2

This is all he has told us . So , yes , he has told us . Yeah , we know this , yeah .

Speaker 3

He was destroyed by this information . And after Jamie leaves , we get a very rare view like a little shot of Sam going . Oh man , like just deflated and I don't say deflated , like really deflated is not the right word the look is what ? How would you describe it , boss ? What does that look ?

Speaker 1

Pained , I think would be the best word for it that he really is upset about it that he would turn away before he would let anybody else see , because he doesn't want to ruin anybody else's mood . I think is actually the biggest reason why he wouldn't say anything .

Speaker 2

But yeah , pain Awesome . I was going to say gut punch . So yeah , I think pain is a nail bit .

Speaker 3

Hey yo , congrats , bro . Now we go over to to Van Damme and Danny , and Danny turns around . Listen , all you have to do . I'm not gonna go into a deep dive on this . I because I did it on the on the rapid reaction . But he is now team Mexico . He has Mexico . He has stopped At this moment , at the point of this announcement , he has .

Now he is reverting to his , his Youth soccer , l L chapeau . What's this ? The ? What's the ? Am I saying that right ? Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah , chapeau .

Speaker 3

Mm-hmm , yeah , the El Chapo youth league for kids . Like whatever he learned on the mean streets of wherever the hell Danny's from . Do we ever find out where he's from , I believe ?

Speaker 2

Guadalajara .

Speaker 3

Yeah , it's up in the in the Christmas episode . There you go and your favorite speech from Higgins oh . Yes , yeah , thanks for bringing that up , coach . I appreciate that . So yes , I'm the mean , mean streets of Guadalajara , where he learned its killer be killed in El Chapos youth soccer league .

He turns on , says I am not your bro , we are now enemies and soon you will be my bitch . It was like oh , haha , that's funny and and again I think it's there was this thing that went around . You know , sometimes there you get a this more than ever . Once upon a time there would be what's called urban myths . Yes , remember the era of urban . Are you ?

Are you too young for that boss ? No , you had her . No , number one , absolutely remember it .

Speaker 1

Number two it peaked with the movie urban myths , like there was the Whatever horror story movie that was . That came out after stream and I know what you did last summer and I still know what you did last summer , which I have to mention . When the Commercial for that came out I was sitting with I think I mentioned before my buddy Tim .

It was High school or just after high school . And we were like he was like , oh my god , they're doing a sequel to that one , to that one . They're doing a sequel , what it's ? I still know what you did last summer and that it's like on the screen flash . I still know what you did last summer .

I was like it's great , we're fucking done , we're done with this . So yes , I continue to know , I continue to be aware of what . Things were done .

Speaker 3

Last I still know what you did last summer before .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it's fucking ridiculous and also a terrible movie . Just so bad .

Lack of Geography Education in Schools

Well , once upon a time in the era of urban myths , before there was the internet .

Speaker 3

These things would travel around just like word of mouth . It was fascinating what , what you would hear and whatever , and you'd get information this way . And then there was the onset , the age of information , and I remember I got I think it was in the Early 2000 , I'm gonna say 2006 , 2007 .

I remember reading something that said 70 percent of graduating American seniors in high school , american seniors in high school could not identify the country directly North of the United States and the country directly south of the United States . And 70 feel felt Crazy high to me . I'm like , wait a second , that's that seems like .

And then over the years I've noticed geography has really been deep prioritized . Oh yeah , it's really like they don't even like barely , they just don't have a sense of it anymore .

Kids , I don't know , I don't know what happened , but in the same way , school budgets across the world have been I won't say across the world , across the country have been cut to eliminate all the you know music programs and art program , everything .

It just becomes pared down to meet testing requirements for for uh sort of English and math , so that you can decide where your school ranks . And now people teach to tests and it's a whole nightmare . Um , but I thought , wow , 70 percent is really high and what I feel like somebody in the writing room , um , I , I was remiss because I did not .

We usually start these episodes out by me saying who wrote it . This is written by jane becker , who wrote uh , trent crim the independent and no weddings and a funeral , and directed by matt libsi .

But I was like , okay , jane becker , you know , it was like having a commentary on the difference between Uh playing against mexicans and against playing against canadiens and what that feels like in a sporting event . And I know like it's just so funny because I've had this experience .

It feels right to me , not that it not that it's like bad or insulting or anything , but it's like it's just a different Uh , it's just a different vibe and so that's . I thought this was the impetus for this .

Someone in that room it's not necessarily jane , but someone in the room was like listen , it's totally different to go and play against canadiens and play against mexicans and so , um , you know , they approach the sport differently . Um , uh , their deities self medicate with , with different narcotics coach , so um , so yeah , you'll be my bitch .

Van Ames are what the ? And then the theme music cuts in which I'm like , oh , and there's a beautiful my favorite part of this is the crazy eyes . So , uh , we don't , you know , is there outside of Earl's death ? Can you guys think of anything that where danie rojas is is , uh , maybe tulips , I don't know . I'm trying to think , like , where is danie rojas ?

Not like that . One note beautiful . Football is life , danny rojas . Is there anything else outside of football is death .

Speaker 2

Yeah , we should , yeah , we should try dutch food , but in a way that was , it felt like an extension of that . It certainly was like a level of like rage that we hadn't seen , but it seemed very . It did actually seem sort of sweet in an odd way that he was like we should try the food from this place . This is where we are .

It wasn't like his message , was it ? But you know that he had been driven that crazy bite . Um , but yeah , I guess that would be the only other time I can think of .

Speaker 3

So I guess my , my thing is like , without being a boss pointed out in the rapid reaction , this is ranny dohas , which is pain , painful , um , but , but I really like . I was like , oh , christopher nandes , he's so great , he has , he has crafted with the writing staff , he has brought this performance to life of a guy who is . I mean , we were so enamored .

Can you imagine coming in right and and , uh , hello , coaches , you know that whole thing off the thing . And jayme was shitting on him and rojas is , you know , he looks very good . You know , like that that whole thing . You like shoes again .

Yeah , so he has created like I don't care where we are , I know the three of us , but I don't care our listening base , all the fans , all the fans of the show . You could go 10 years from now and say , um , oh , we're gonna go order ice cream . What would dany rojas say here ?

And someone would be able to say they'd approximate it , because we , he , we know who dany rojas is . And that's a huge strength of this show , I mean , an absolutely , absolutely inviolable strength Of ted lasso is , if we were ordering ice cream 10 years from now , we could tell you what roi kent would say and how he would order it .

We could tell you how jayme Tart would say it . We could tell you what ted lasso would say . We could tell you what beard would say . We could tell you what higgins would say . We could tell you what rebecca would say . We could tell you what keely would say . We would know this .

That's why we we have so much fertile ground to talk about , because they have built these avatars that are so understandable . So my fun . The point I'm getting to is I I found it really charming . I know people sometimes this did not land for people . They're like what the fuck is this ? And I really get that .

But I was like , oh , it's nice that christopher nandis gets to play a little bit , because he does this crazy mother fucking eyes as he turns away and he says cheek at your mother , like Fucking your mother . He says that to a canadian , van dam . All van dam wants us to go see a sex show . He's such a fucking yokel , like sweet dumb boy .

You know what I mean . Yeah , yeah , it's great and right and and that's what it's .

Speaker 2

Just he gets to be this crate , totally opposite of what he normally is so this is what I was referencing earlier when I was saying very soon we're gonna get to really experience that we all contain multitudes , and I did think that this was teeing that up . That was sort of like be on the lookout , some things may happen here , um , so yeah , anyway .

But but yeah , danie , I'll say this I have liked this choice More each time I've watched the episode . I've probably seen it about four or five times now and I and I've liked it more each time . I think the first time maybe just threw me off , or I just wasn't ready for that , or it wasn't where I thought things were gonna go .

Um , but it's it's , it's , it's clever , it's funny and and it's well used . As we go forward , we'll , we'll talk about that .

Speaker 1

I think there's also . I found it even funnier that van dam being canadian was what was being played up here , because God bless them . Yeah , I've only known a few canadians in in my life and it is very rare that the stereotypes hold up . Um , did I mention when I was in minnesota and my uh debit card was declined specifically in minneapolis ?

I was in minneapolis , uh , I was there for the holidays . I had to run to Walreens or someplace and just pick up a few things , and this was 20 years ago . So my debit card was like you're supposed to be in chicago , why are you here ? And it declined it .

Speaker 3

It was like , no , we're not gonna give you your money .

Speaker 1

And the woman at the register goes and just makes that very small noise at me , a tiny little beep , and sort of gestures At the register , and I said , oh , is there , is there a problem ? And she goes and again makes a noise that I don't understand and gestures at it and I was like , is there a problem with the transaction ?

She's like , well , and I was like I couldn't give you cash . Do you need , do you want cash ? Is that fine ?

Speaker 3

Other means of remunerating me , like I there .

Speaker 1

It gets to a point where it's no longer polite . If I don't understand what you're trying to convey , I need you to say words , to tell me about what's going on in this situation . But she didn't want to be rude and say your card was declined , so she just Right right politely gestured at it and I was like , okay , well , I can't live here funny .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's a bit much , but that's a good great .

Excitement Over Women's World Cup Results

Speaker 3

We were watching the women's world cup the other day and I love , uh , bev priestman , the coach of team canada . Um , and and uh , my son was like how are you not rooting for Nigeria ? Like you're a huge fan of the super falcons ? I'm like I am , I'm absolutely rooting for that . I love them , I want Nigeria to thrive and they got a huge , huge victory .

Uh , coach , coach , actually , uh , texted to me and what , oh , coach , this is so good . Will you just read what you wrote , please ? This is so , this is so good . But actually , while you're queuing that up , while you're looking , I'll tell you what I said .

I was like I will never like my son's like you're the one that says that african nations don't have the same infrastructure for the women's game and then they're always playing at a deficit .

How could you possibly root for you know , like zambia I'm sorry England , let's say over zambia like they have internal stuff , like this is my , uh , my oldest , who's just looking at all the stuff and saying , like how could you ? And I'm like I just love All of the teams , I'm just always rooting for all of them at all times .

But I was like I specifically have never and will never root against canada ever In any sport . For for the as long as I so shall live . You will never hear me when , when we have NFL playoffs , I don't sing the stars , star spangled banger , but I sing oh canada , I sing it and I drive everybody fun . It's crazy in the house , that's great .

And because I have a my , all my kids will tell you . There's all these things that , like I've now indoctrinated into them , that are Only my perspective in the world . But the canadiens are the third best people on planet earth , the first being obviously the nivan , who are the , the indigenous people of onoatu are the number one .

Speaker 2

They are the best people . Yes , yes , yes , yes , yes , yes .

Speaker 3

I've said this before . Yeah , you've done not on here , but you and I have discussed this the greatest people , I mean , oh my god , the best people in the whole world , and then , uh , samoans are number two and and then the canadiens number three . So you will never find me ever rooting against any of us , for in rugby , in fencing , nothing .

I'll never , ever do that . Um , but coach and I were talking about uh Today . We were saying Coach is watching the women's world cup and he's like , oh my god , without ted lasso I I wouldn't have even . Yeah , like this is just coach , take it away on this . It's so fascinating .

Speaker 2

I had . I had there were several things , it's definitely . I felt like my sort of like Basic understanding of the game definitely had been impacted , like we've talked enough about it and the watch , you know .

So I was noticing little things like , um , I didn't realize it was Alex Morgan , but that there was a pass and that she stepped past the ball and used their heel to to pass it to somebody come and I just wouldn't have noticed that , I think , before . Um , but my , my , my shining , uh ted lasso moment .

What the uh Americans take off , you know , the ball goes long , alex Morgan gets it , drills it past the goalie and I'm like she was offside , total set lasso .

I swear to you in real time , like , as people are celebrating , I'm like she was offside and then they're like you see them like looking around and then they call it and I'm like , yeah , but I just saw it . I saw it . So I had a real laugh about that .

I was like , wow , I have , in addition to all the other reasons , I actually have learned a little football . That's messing around with this show . But yeah , in real time , that was my , that was my favorite part .

Speaker 3

That made me so fucking happy when he told me that .

Speaker 2

I was dying , I was like shut up .

Speaker 3

He's like no , no , it was just like Ted . You know the delayed response , but I was ahead of it , not behind . And and the coach also said he's like . Up until that moment I'm not sure I could have told you what offside was , but right there I was like no , that is a hundred percent , trust me .

Speaker 2

I'm telling you , it was light , ted , like I feel like I've always been like , and then in that moment I was like , yep , there it is got it . So anyway , there you go . I'm , as a side note , I am enjoying the shit out of the women's world cup , by the way , like I'm watching recorded games , I'm like I am really enjoying this . Um .

Speaker 3

I want you to keep an eye on . I love that and keep an eye on I . I could tell you who's gonna win Uh , because I can predict the future .

Uh , actually only in Ted last week , because we've already seen the episodes , but uh , but I , the writing is on the wall , and but the thing that I want you to notice is which teams are playing with actual joy , because the teams that are playing the best are playing Are having so much fun .

Oh , my god , every time they go in the pitch , they are like so happy and uh , keep keep an eye on that , because it's important . But , will you , will you , will you tell everybody what you texted ? Oh okay , the super falcons team Nigeria .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah . So Nigeria beat Australia big . You know , it was clearly the way it was presented was a big upset . I don't know the world that well , but I got .

I I picked up that like they pulled that one off three , two , and so I texted a screenshot of the score and I wrote I want Thor to picture Ola dancing in the street and I just I knew you were gonna love it . I knew when I sent that text I was like he's gonna love that .

Speaker 3

And I'm such a cheeseball it makes me so happy . I love I love that team so much . The super a shawal of the captain . She's pulled off her shirt when it was done . She's so jacked , she's so exciting to watch . She plays in the premier league . She's like a legend and and that is a that's a thing that will inspire every little Nigerian girl .

They'll never forget . Right , uh , ashwalla , ashwalla , freaking out after they beat the I mean unbelievably favored Australian . Some people picked I mean it's crazy , uh , but some people picked up . Listen , I know we have so many Australian fans and the thing is I love them at Tilda's . I love them so much , but they never an international play .

They always find a way to not be able to pull it off and it kills me . So I've had my heart broken so many times , just like Several times I'm like no , no , australia's got this . I should trust me . Matilda , the Tilda's are gonna come through and then they find a way not to . And this , this world cup .

They have arguably the best goal scorer in the world , who injured her calf the night , the night before . No the opening match and now she's not playing . So she's like one of the reasons that the that Nigeria even had a prayer of of of taking that game was Sam curse , sitting on the bench like crying the poor . I mean , this is her moment .

She is unbelievable , like it's pain . She's so talented and so athletic that her , her uh goal celebration is she flips . He just does a flip for no , she just goes flip like she's like a water ball Really . Oh my god , she's so , she's so strong , she's so she's probably five two . You know she's a five four problem .

She's not a big , big person but her , her Alacrity and her and her sense of the game and she also plays for the premier side and Chelsea . Uh , and she's just wins every award and the night before the fucking women's world cup , her cap , something happens or any .

Just your heart breaks for the Matilda's Um , but you cheer for the super falcons because it was such an unlikely victory . Uh , and , and my god , coach , I really really appreciate . Uh , man , think about all that dancing . Uh , five minutes , that dude had it's screen time like like isn't that crazy ?

Speaker 2

and like I remember on my notice , voice sounded like if he was standing behind me and said something . I'd be like Hola , like so clear Is that you ? Are you there ?

Speaker 3

Uh , so , yeah , it's so powerful Samuel , don't fight back , fight forward .

Speaker 2

I've thought about that in my own life , by the way , like I actually had . That's a line that I've kind of held on to , but , at any rate . So the theme music ends .

Joke Crafting and Workplace Speculation

We uh , we're really blasting through this one .

Speaker 1

I'm thinking against . We're gonna wrap this up real quick this is one of those hour ones , mm-hmm .

Speaker 3

Mm-hmm . Uh , boss , can you take it away here I can .

Speaker 1

But that tone should tell you that this was not one of my favorite jokes .

Speaker 3

Um so , after the you may infer from my hesitancy .

Speaker 1

So Ted is in Rebecca's office and he says she . He says , uh , so you're telling me it only shows up once a month and she nods eating her biscuits , and it never skips a month and she says only if you're pregnant . And he says , hmm , well , look , shoot , I got to check out this wine delivery service . Sounds like a real corker .

Speaker 2

Yes , he added a yes , so so All right . So there's a joke and a joke before . That joke was like wow , but I I don't know that I've seen this done exactly this way before because the the game of when you're writing a joke .

Jerry Seinfeld describes it as um , somebody jumping from one cliff to the other , and I may have said this one before , but like , if it's not far enough , it's boring and nobody cares , and if it's too far , people fall into the abyss , like the , the , the , the .

The beauty of it is you got to make it just enough of a jump for the fun of it and I Could not beat him , or I did not beat him to this punchline and I , I beat a lot of shows to a lot of punchlines . I've just thought about this so much . But I , I was like where I ?

I was like there's no way they're talking about what it feels obvious , right , but I could not figure out what in the world they were actually talking about in time . So I kind of felt like they got me there . And then he yeah , he definitely hit with Straight . No , chaser , ted lasso , with sounds like a real corker . I was like , wow , that uh .

Speaker 3

Coach , I have never heard that before and you have not mentioned it before , but I love that analogy of oh really of joke , joke crafting , that is . That is I'm gonna really I think about a deep dive . I'm gonna go to bed tonight thinking about wow , that is perfect .

Speaker 2

I bet I can find an interview . If I find it , I'll send it to you . But yeah , it's pretty cool .

Speaker 3

That's great , um so , uh , okay . So now we said boss , keep going . Did you hear about Nathan ?

Speaker 1

Uh , did you hear about Nathan so that I did all right , he I sorry . She says , uh , did you hear about Nathan ? And he says I did . And she said what do you think happened there ? And he said well , boss , I'm like an incomplete list of meddling cons best films I ain't got no clue , which , on the back of the wine joke , feels Like a little too close .

I might have needed a little bit , but I do at least like this joke . This one did I . Madeline Connie's great and uh clue is amazing . So that's fine , I can live with that .

Speaker 2

I'm not sure that you agrees with you is what I'm gathering by his head cock to the side , like , uh , like a oh , no , no , no , I no , no , no , no , no , no no you were in . I okay , I couldn't tell .

Speaker 3

Oh yeah no , no , no , it's not . It's not my , it's , it's a , it's a thinker . I ain't got no clue like it's it's like , okay , like whoo , but clue is so good and such a great movie and holds up so well and to the point where , uh , last time I was in LA I mentioned to one of our friends , our , our friend , pete coach .

I said , oh yeah , this is like a iconic family show where we all can quote it . And Pete was like , oh my god , really Like he was so impressed , he's like it's our family too . And then he did a quote to set me up , to test me , and I was like at first I didn't realize he was doing . I was like , oh , he said so . Then I gave him the response .

So and he's like , yes , okay , good , yes , you do . You also love it the way we love . You know , it's like that kind of that kind of moment . But , um , yeah , oh my god , clues , clues , amazing Madeline con . My daughter , my 17 year old , went to um See a jody comer play . That was on broadway , prima facie . Uh , that was her what she requested .

Listen , I got . Okay , I'm flexing a little bit . This is what she requested for her graduation present . Well , she wanted to go see this jody comer play in on broadway and the . But the first thing she did when she got to new york Was she went to find the bench in central park when madeline con has a plaque . Because it was .

There was a bench madeline con used to sit at because , because our name's tuesday , she tuesday loves Um clues so much and loves madeline con so much that she , she went to go hunt down . I have pictures of her sitting on this on this bench . So so , yes , I am into this . I'm into this joke .

Um , although it's a thinker and it's a breather , you got it Like whoo , the setup is so sweaty . Yeah , what the fuck are you talking about An incomplete list of madeline con's best films ? Like any Comedian worth their salt is like dude . You gotta clean that up .

Speaker 2

Yeah , as long as I'm doing like history of comedy , I want to say will rodges by maybe messing that up . But anyway , one of the like the you know from way back , people said that porch is too big for that house . Yeah , yeah .

Speaker 3

I .

Speaker 2

Like I'm like that's exactly right . Like there's too many words , you gotta tighten that up . Like it seems silly . It seems like , but that's the joke . It's like but If you don't cut three syllables , that joke is going to bomb . I promise you isn't that crazy , it's nuts .

Speaker 3

And then you and you go shut up , right shut . You don't know what you're talking about . The joke is perfect . Then you go up on stage and then you bomb and then you go home . It coached with like record all his sessions on stage . He's like it can't be true , it can't be , and then cut the three fucking syllables .

Speaker 2

And they and they and you crushed the room and you're like that is impossible , that is not possible , but it's yeah , it's crazy .

Speaker 3

It reminds me of , like I remember when it was once upon a time anything phil Collins made became a hit and certain comedians are like that's like , they just know the cadence . They know Jerry Seinfeldt for a long time , like could do no wrong , it just just a master , master of joke crafting .

Um , and I remember , like Phil Collins , like every song he had was like a number , one number , one number , and he was like it's easy , like I know what people want it , or whatever . I remember saying something like trust me , like I got , like I got this . And it's like , if you're in that zone , you know what I mean . You just know what the cadence is .

And uh , it's , it's unbelievable . But , um , you're right , that's it . Uh , I'm like an incomplete list of Madeline Collins best film . You're only gonna get away with it on ted lasso .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I mean this is the show for that joke . If anybody's gonna like that joke , it's gonna be this one .

Speaker 3

Oh no , no question , absolutely right . This is , this is , this is the places to tee that up . Keep going , boss , please .

Speaker 1

So he follows up and it ain't really none of my business anyhow . And she says , ted , look , I mean this in the nicest possible way , but you suck at girl talk . She says I , I know , I just don't like gossip . She says it's not gossip , ted , it's speculation . I've actually heard rumblings of an inappropriate workplace behavior over it . What , oh sorry ?

Speaker 2

I think , I think coach has to do this line .

Speaker 3

Yeah , yeah , so sorry , let me actually have been hearing rumblings of inappropriate Over at West Ham .

Speaker 1

See excellent girl talk .

Speaker 3

Okay . Sorry talk about the distinction between now go ahead , coach , you jump in , but I let's talk about the distinction between I Also do not like gossip , so I get I really get that , because it always feels like a finger pointy and kind of like shot . And Friday II I know boss is not with me on this because no , fucking no , she'll cut , cut a fool .

Speaker 1

But fucking love gossip . Well , and I think also that there are very different ways of what we qualify as gossip and what is it . And I read something one time that , basically , once human stopped being hunter-gatherers and started being , it started farming .

That our brains actually needed to encompass having a community and Relating to other people and also how they relate to each other , and that this was foundational for forming civilizations .

Because it was like in a hunter-gatherer group , yes , but if you were in one place and if you need to Build something there , then you need to know who likes who and who doesn't get along with you . And so this way that it like when women do it , it seems like it's gossipy and girl talk and gender to be kind of bitchy .

But actually this is how communities are fostered . Like if I know that my friend is having Relationship issues with her husband , I know how to address both of them . So she has to tell me that so that I know how to respond to them . So I I actually , when it's not like , oh my god , did you care about how she got cheated on ?

Speaker 3

like there can be ways where it's very destructive and mean .

Speaker 1

But there can also be ways where it's just like what's going on with everybody ? If I ask after my friend's family , I don't think anybody's gonna be asking if that's gossipy . But if it turns out that her brother is getting divorced , that might be gossipy information , but I'm asking how she's doing . So I Think it could be taken a few ways .

Speaker 2

I hear you on that

Gossip and Gender

. I'll say to I don't think anybody would really describe me as like a Gossip , but I will say that I do have several friends who will call me specifically , like one woman I'm thinking of in particular Specifically call me and be like I got the tea and I'll be like what's that , like it's like that's .

You know , that's part of our routine , and she will just literally just call me , be like I got the tea and I'll be like Come on .

Speaker 3

I love it . I love it .

Speaker 2

So I get it , I get it .

Speaker 1

Yeah , because I mentioned that it was gendered . I feel like a lot of women are able to have conversations about the stuff . Catch up , how is everybody doing ? What is going on ? Love of up . The biggest gossip queens I've known in my life have all been met Every single one of them .

There are some dudes that like not only they want the information , but also at times , they will make sure that they find the right people to tell that information to use it . And I'm like this is . This is some like Gossipy drama queen bullshit , like gay gay men , no Straight Orlando bitch straight married man straight .

Men with children father like okay , so let me tell you what's going on With Karen and Tommy . I have some stuff to tell you . Yeah , no , I swear to God .

Speaker 2

That's great . I love well here . Here's in this exchange . I Think it's interesting that he talks about it as quote gossip , because it's both like it's it's gossip in that they know Nate and they know Rupert and they are personally connected to it , but also it's like another level of gossip , that's like why ESPN can survive .

Somebody point out to me once like as much as guys will be like oh , this show and that show and how dumb the shows are . If you watch II , if you watch ESPN , it's all Say Kwan Barkley is mad at the Giants cuz he didn't get his contract , so he took he took all references to the Giants out of his Twitter . Like what the fuck ?

Speaker 3

I've heard . I've heard a categorize as soap operas from it .

Speaker 2

Yes , yes , it's absolutely sports is just melodrama that appeals to every week and it's this one's revenge game and this one blah , blah , blah , and this it's .

Speaker 3

Yeah , and also . But it's different to set up a narrative like the revenge game and stuff . It's like I mean like okay , yes , yes , but like I think we're just naturally sort of we will gravitate to Excellent storytelling as part of it , like , oh , these two teams are gonna play it .

Okay , great , that is on a scale of interesting , that is one one out of ten . Okay , these teams are gonna play for this , for the championship , and one of them is gonna go home . Oh , okay , that goes up three . And let me tell you something the player on the first team is the son of the coach of the SEC team .

You go holy fuck , and they don't talk anymore because he Left the team in a huff . Now I'm like I'm at eight , I'm like , okay , so part of it is I get where . But this I feel like once we say gossip , like there are there's a whole .

If you've written on the internet for any period of time which which all three of us have , you will eventually be like on a gossip you know website or whatever , and and there's there's a lot of that . And I remember being like talking to editors and being like God . I just don't like ad hominem attacks , I don't like to trash people . I don't .

I'm like it's not my jam , I'm not . I've literally I don't think I've ever done very , very rarely . Alexi Lallis , who is the commentator for women's World Cup , I , there is . I Don't try not to say bad things about people , but holy Baby Jesus , does this guy get under my skin ?

But in general I try to say like only nice things and the editors go no dude . Like that's what pays the fucking bills . Like you can say all the nice things you want , but I promise you the second you drop something nasty , the nastier the better for hits online . I'm like , oh , commentary on the human condition . Yeah , that's where it gossip .

That's why gossip feels dirtier to me as a word .

Speaker 2

I hear you . I , by contrast , had a and I'm just gonna go ahead and break a bunch of rules but I had a blog called the musings of a new millennium . Nigga , right around the turning of the millennium . I thought I just had so much fun with this goddamn . And the majority of the pieces started with first of all , fuck , fill in the blank .

That's like that was my like standard , like that was my theme Hello , first of all , fuck this person . First of all , fuck Jesse Jackson first of all , and then I would just go from there .

So , yeah , I get it , I get it and I get where you're coming from too , because it does feel like we , at a certain point , just like sully ourselves and it's all we see in each other . And you know , I saw I think it also online .

Speaker 3

Online it turns into outrage blindness , like , just like , okay , yeah , you have to be outraged about everything , yeah sometimes I read these posts and I'm like this is Give me a fucking break . That's not something to be outraged .

Yeah , yeah , this is how they're raising their kids or this is a I read one recently about something like this is how they're parenting . Can you believe it ? I'm like go fuck yourself like a parent over the fuck they want a parent .

There's no , you know what I mean , like they're not hurting the kids , it's just a choice or whatever , and I'm just like enough with the fucking outrage . But Musings of an NMM Was inspired and I still smile thinking about it . Coaches , broadly and deeply talented in so many formats . Yeah , it was absolutely stunning , beautiful .

See , I held back from an ad hominem attack coach . I just want to point that out . It's not gossip , tatted speculation . I've actually been hearing rummism of inappropriate workplace behavior over at West Ham , and Rebecca says what boss ?

Speaker 1

See excellent girl talk .

Speaker 3

Right , hmm . So chaps , what do we think Nathan capable of being involved in something like that ?

Speaker 2

nah , I like that . I feel like it harkens back to Higgins taken off for the red light district . Yes , with you know . Absolutely , that's great and I and you know like also , you know your people . Like a friend of mine said , like you ever hear I stole $20 , you know that's a lie .

Now , if you hear yet I stole a million dollars , I might have done it right . And I was like you know what , I Know , you and I get that and that is correct and I think you do kind of have a sense of like , well , if so-and-so gets in any trouble , it's much more likely to be in this direction .

And yeah , I could see Nate being horrible , but I really couldn't see him like Locking the door behind some unsuspecting Intern or something create . You know , like that , not that I could see him being horrible , but not that brand of horrible .

Speaker 3

So I I mean , he was like real incel douchey .

Speaker 2

I get , I get what you're saying .

Speaker 3

I go , I'm not saying like I see him that way . I mean , listen , it's a credit to the show . That again , we've already talked about this that Baked into the DNA of each character is a sense about what they would and what you wear their boundaries are right . And so even the characters in the show go yeah , he wouldn't do that .

You know Higgins is going to the red light district with will . Yeah , you know I don't know what's happening , but I know what isn't happening . You're like , I know I can't exactly put my finger on it , but I know what they're not doing there . Good morning , hello Leslie .

So I heard some Interesting scuttle , but last night , oh , I don't like awesome , but my butt don't mind a little scuttle . I .

Speaker 2

Didn't get that . Like I got that he was making a Joke and I thought it was good to see like Rebecca has just grown so accustomed to the Ted lasso isms that she kind of like Just sort of flicks on the side she's making her way through a conversation . But I was like what ? Like it's got a lot that .

Speaker 3

Big . No , no , let's talk about the DNA of joke crafting specifically with compound words . So this is what . What is the thing ? Oh , I thought you didn't like horse radish .

Speaker 2

No , it's just horses and radishes , yeah .

Speaker 3

I didn't love that . Same thing . It's they take a word . This is like when they're pressed for time . I don't mind those scuttle , but oh , that's got the word . But it , my butt , don't like to scuttle . Hey , there's a joke and you go wait . It's like whoa , just cuz you , just cuz you broke up the compound word Godspeed .

Speaker 1

Why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway ? It's like yeah , no , words are weird sometimes .

Speaker 3

Yeah right , it is there that kawanky dinky kind of thing . You go , okay , but it's not , it's not . Do you believe in ghost Ted ? No , it's not that I will toss in , and that's the highest form of the art as far as that . That thing , yeah it has , like that , three meanings . It's razor focused or laser focused and you go oh my god , that's the .

That's the top of the mountain , I think yeah that's what you want to get to , and so this is I .

I spent a great deal of season two , but I didn't break it down in the compound word thing , because I think it's more obvious right now and maybe in season three , where it's like in lieu of a , I'm a proper Sort of Like statement there , but they'll default to let's . Let's just take apart a common compound word .

No one's done that before , and Ted lasso can get away with it in this format , and so it's an easy , easy thing to throw in there so , but where I was gonna go is you said the thing around the compound words and a so like sort of tangent .

Speaker 2

a tangent to that is for me , is when people create acronyms for things so like the one that always makes me laugh is like basic instructions before leaving earth , right , oh no , how ?

Oh , you know , I'm like yeah , but if you say it in fucking French , like it doesn't work , I think like there's no hidden meaning here , folks , that is , you just stared at some fucking letters until you figure out a word and how to make it a sentence , like I'm all for it , but let's not like imbue it with all sorts of like power and meaning like you

just made that shit up , like that's not , that's not what it means .

Speaker 1

Oh man , I gotta tell you you and I are from so far apart on this spectrum that it took me a good couple seconds to be like what is ? It's not NASA . What is so , when you're going to the moon , what do you need to ? Oh , oh , the Bible . Oh , I got it , that one , that kind of leave .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , yeah , my youth included a lot of Bible . Yeah , I find that a little shocking .

Speaker 1

Yeah , you might be shocked at how little minded I think I know that I told you about my sister the big letter T . She has continued this tradition because her daughter I was walking around the neighborhood where my mom lives visiting grandma and I think she was four , maybe five , at the time . And the church bells start going off .

And she said what is that ? And I said oh , they're the church bells . They go off at the start of every hour to let you know what time it is . She was oh , okay , who's church ? Now it's like fuck . Yes , yes , okay .

Speaker 2

Wow , that's , that's .

Speaker 3

No , that's a . David Hawking was a very impressive little boy , or whatever like .

Speaker 2

Right right right , right right right so out of touch with . You know what I mean but whose church is exciting .

Speaker 3

Mm-hmm , who's ?

Speaker 1

church . Yeah , that's great .

Speaker 3

Yeah , go on , leslie . All right , boss , take it away Edwin a kufo is back in town .

Speaker 1

Apparently he's sniffing around about trying to create a super league of some sort .

Speaker 2

And there's lots of reaction Mm-hmm , mm-hmm . We feel , we feel that and uh , yeah , I thought I , yeah , this was , yeah , this . There's a joke coming up that I'm kind of I'm cringing because I get tired of having to defend everything . But here we go .

Speaker 1

Where did you hear this ? Well , rebecca , I am director of football operations and a bunch of us DFOs have a little jazz band we called the director of the bebop operations .

Speaker 2

Hmm , there it is . I believed it , though I kind of worked because they would be those guys , that is what they would call themselves .

Speaker 1

That is correct .

Speaker 2

Yes , yeah , definitely , but it was , it was rough that you .

Speaker 3

I'm not . I'm not saying that they should be Like executed for picking that name , but they should definitely . Yeah , they should be . You know when you like you what like you drown someone till right to the point where they when they expire . When they come up with that you go hold on a sec . Somebody . Can somebody start a bath ? That's funny .

Be be bopper , I mean I that is that . I love a pun and that one hurt me .

Speaker 2

It was yeah , yeah .

Speaker 3

I love a pun and that . That was a lot , that was a lot and I love a pun , but Any reaction to the fact that we are two episodes , three , you know if we're in the middle of this one , but like two episodes remaining in the broadly publicized end of Ted Lasso and we're reintroducing Edwin a kufo , I didn't .

Speaker 2

But I think throughout the season we've kind of had this Tension not like a tension between us about a tension between the choices where I think you have experienced it acutely , aware of the impending end , like , as you're experiencing the story that we're running , like I'm gonna run on a runway or whatever it is , and I think I'm I .

For me , it was more like this is what's gonna happen next .

Speaker 3

So , yeah , it didn't bother me , but given You're saying I was along for the ride you mentioned . Oh , this is like the end of a musical , where everyone gets to say one thing as they go out the door . You mentioned that yeah , I thought , that rapid response like it's this . It's like everyone take a bow .

Speaker 2

That's . It felt that way to me . I felt like we found ways to get characters back in and we'll see some more of that as we're going on and people who had less impact than Edwin , a kufo as well , but I , yeah , I thought it had that Feeling to me of characters being , you know , given a an opportunity to take their bow .

Speaker 3

Yes , I saw it . I thought oh my God , here's the thing . Edwin Kufo is great , I think of the three of us I was raving about his physical comedy . Sam Richardson , who plays Edwin Kufo , is , I mean , phenomenally broad . His range is astounding . I mean he can kind of do anything . That's the guy from Veep .

Speaker 2

Yeah , Veep , man . What are we talking about ? How ?

Speaker 3

is that the guy ? How is that ?

Speaker 2

the same guy , yeah , yes . And then he's in those like oh my God , the mystery , whatever , Siri , oh after party . Yeah , after party I'm like oh , my like , wow , wow , he's brilliant , he's legit .

Speaker 3

He's fucking legit , and so when he does , when he did like the out , you know out the door to punish Sam shitting on everything . And coach says this whole season's about shit . But I was impressed . But I was like , oh my thing , a super league of some sort .

I'm like god damn it , because you're in the writing room , right , you got your whiteboard , you got your whatever and you're saying like , hey , coach , and you know how this goes , coach , you've written on TV and bosses watched a lot of TV . Where you go hey , listen , I'd like to get this into , I'd like to wedge this into the season .

Somebody says hey , I Keely Hazel , a writer staff writer , trying to make her bones on Ted Laszlowski , says hey , I actually had a photo's leaked .

Speaker 2

Oh , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 3

It would be cool to have a photo's leaked , kind of thing . Somebody says Brendan Hunt maybe says you know , when I was living in Amsterdam there was this guy's , la Tanne . I'd love to make it like a Zava character that you know what I mean . Somebody else says I used to work with the craziest bitch in the world and she had like crazy bitch energy .

And they go oh , let's bring Shandy . You know what I'm saying . This is how you get these sub posts . People throw out ideas , and one of the somebody was like I fucking hate that they keep trying to make a super leak , ok , and now we're trying to make a I'm like you don't do it in episode 10 .

You do it in , like , season two instead of 100 other things , whatever , but anyway , so that's the only thing . I go , oh God , and yes , and they're right , and I like their love , love , their position , their position is the right position and we're going to get to that , probably next time .

But like I was like , oh , apparently sniffing around about trying to create a super league of some sort , and you go , oh , I get it , I get it .

Speaker 1

It felt very much like an episode of TV when we had 22 episodes , seasons , like if this were a throwaway on scrubs it just so happens that Colin Farrell . they just posted some pictures of him at the actor strike showing up looking as Colin Farrell does . Incredibly good . Thank you for that , Colin , I really appreciate it .

And then we were , of course , reminded the one episode of scrubs that he showed up on randomly at the height of his early career , Like he'd just gotten done with the recruit . And he just randomly shows up on an episode of scrubs and of course everybody's falling all over themselves in love . He's not Colin Farrell , he's just a hot Irish guy .

That kind of episode works extremely well . Where you're like we can get him , let's go ahead and throw him in when you were telling a convent story . Over only what is it ? 34 episodes altogether you can't just throw in random . I have an idea on this that doesn't work .

Speaker 3

Yeah , and this became from what we hear through the Great Vine .

This became a point of this type of thing , became a point of contention between creators Bill Lawrence and Jason Stakis , to the point where Bill Lawrence wasn't involved in season three , partly because I think he was like wait , when you see the runtimes go from 30 minutes to this one's over an hour , you go like , ok , like now Apple TV plus is not going to

go to Jason Stakis and be like , hey , man , you got to . Whatever I went the other day to , it was . We are now in July of 2023 . And I went to . When did Ted Lasso end ? Three months , was it three months ago ? Two months ago ? Was it that long ago ? Eight weeks ago ?

Whatever it ended , it's been more than six weeks or it's been a month or so , at least more than a month . I don't know . We can look it up , and so Boss is going to look at it while I'm making this point . You go to Apple TV plus and it's still their top episode . It just got knocked off by the Idris Elba plane hijacking thing .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it's still number two .

Speaker 3

Yeah , I saw that Are you there right now looking Coach , yeah , so this is a money wagon for them . They're not going to go and say , hey , you got to , what the fuck is this with these runtimes ? And he's like I don't know . He's like I may never get this again , so I'm going to just ride this fucking money train .

And that's what you do , because , as a creator , this doesn't happen . Look at the writer strike right now . The creatives are never , ever in charge . It's always . You're always kissing the ring to have the production budget . You need to try to get your vision on the screen and yeah , so yes .

Speaker 2

I also . Sometimes , when people do push boundaries , let's say as stars , I often , at the very least , try to remember that for every the famous one about what color M&Ms can be in that whole thing . There's part of me that gets that . Oh so when I was a fucking extra and somebody threw half a turkey sandwich at my head and that was my lunch .

Speaker 1

Jesus .

Speaker 2

Christ , you know what I mean . Like they're like , yeah . So they're like , yeah , now I've got the fucking . Like the rabbits got the gun . Like I think that's the feeling I get from some of these stars . And like the shit they demand is like , yeah , fuck you . Like this was torturous getting here . And yeah , now I want all orange M&Ms . That's it .

Speaker 3

Coach , can you we've mentioned on the show before , but for anyone who might be joining us for the first time , or can you mention what you're talking about , the rider that accompanies Rock Vans Historically I think it was at Van Halen .

Speaker 2

It was one of those Rock . It was at Van Halen . But yeah , bon Jovi , yeah , they famously had a thing about I think it was orange M&Ms , but at any rate you could only have a certain color , or there was a color you had to eliminate . It was pretty insane .

Speaker 3

No , you had to take out a certain color .

Speaker 2

Oh right , Because that would be even more no brown .

Speaker 3

M&Ms or whatever . It was no yellow M&Ms . Whatever it was , it was and what was the reason behind it ? Was it because they didn't need yellow M&Ms , or what was the actual reason ?

Speaker 1

I don't remember . Did we talk about this ?

Speaker 3

on the show . Oh no , no , no , no , because it was an indicator to them whether the fucking people were taking them seriously or not , they'd go there and look at the M&Ms and go , oh no , whether they had their thing or not , you did tell me this .

Speaker 2

You did tell me this . That's right .

Speaker 3

So when we allude to that , that's absolutely right . When you look at the historic negotiations , I remember the cast of Friends banding together and being like we want a million bucks an episode and that was like I'm fucking hurt , like a million each . Yeah , are you fucking crazy Like . You know what I mean and they got it .

Speaker 2

They did get it .

Speaker 3

Can't do the show without it , and so , yes , in this case , very , very rare for people to have this kind of power , and so they exercise it , and then we can analyze whether or not it was actually the execution of it was successful .

I know that I felt that in actually audibly grown , but I felt that type of reaction to like , ah shit , really Like there's a lot to clean up , but OK , so Kufa came up rehearsal . Oh , this is not good , I'm sorry . Why is it so bad that a billionaire wants to put together a bunch of superheroes to fight crime ?

Trent says , ted , you're thinking of the Justice League . And I says god , dang it . Yeah , I am . I didn't mind that joke at all . Actually , I grew up with a lot of Justice League .

Speaker 2

Oh really , I was sure that that was going to be a source of anger . It was a shrug for me .

Speaker 3

But yeah , no , I didn't mind it . I was like , OK , yeah , I was . Yeah , ok , justice League . And he says , god dang it , yeah , I am . Super League is one of the world's biggest and wealthiest . Ok , so now it's just straight exposition and you just go . Ah , god damn , they used to once upon a time , ted Lasso , there was possible again , again .

This is all the benefit of hindsight and the allure of nostalgia where we look back and say , oh , things were better when I used to walk through the rain both ways . But it felt like things like this were handled slightly more elegantly than just straight exposition . I don't know , maybe I'm wrong .

Speaker 1

No , I don't think that you are . I actually rewatched the pilot . Oh , oh oh . Just the other night I rewatched part of the pilot In order to confirm Coach Bishop was right about Ted sitting down and there being a shot from behind . It's a little off , soldier , but yes .

Speaker 3

Yeah , did you see that , Coach , like the shot of Ted blacking from behind ? You actually were right about that . You were . It wasn't the same center shot , it was off the side , but he definitely was black , like he was not lit in the back . Well , all right .

Speaker 1

There you go . But so I did watch a second of that in order to pull those pictures , and I feel like not only was all of this handled a little more elegantly in a lot of ways , but Ted himself was less jokey at the time .

It felt like we had a more realistic world that was also slightly more vulgar and meaner than it is now , and Ted was less nice than he is , less jokey , less goofy , but somehow more effective in that , and so I do think that there's been a tonal change over the three seasons .

I think the heart of the show is the same , but definitely the comparison of developing 10 episodes , 10 , 30 minute episodes of TV over eight years compared with putting out , however many , 20 hours of TV I'm not 20 , but probably around there over two seasons , like there are some differences and I don't know how much of this is intentional .

Like maybe they wanted the show to be a little bit goofier , a little bit lighter . God bless them for it . I just it's not what it was in the beginning . There is a difference .

Speaker 3

Yeah , and there's an inherent challenge to pulling off a one hour drama . You know , like we were on a little hiatus and I was stuck .

It's stuck , it's not the right term , but I am so such an arrogant , egocentric entertainment consumer , so consumer of entertainment , that one of the rights , my individual rights , that I demand is I get to pick what's on the TV that I'm watching . But I'm also again try to be a good boy .

So when I am on vacation with Juliana's family and her elderly parents want to watch something , of course we absolutely . So I am there stuck watching some shit . I would never want the one like network TV . Man , holy fucking shit . I'm just like people watch this shit . Anyway , it was a and I actually understood . It was actually kind of eye-opening .

Their show they do the Chicago things Chicago PD , chicago Fire .

Speaker 1

Chicago Home . Oh , jesus Christ , yes , not even I will do that .

Speaker 3

Oh God no , and you're the least favorite daughter of Chicago , correct ? So , yes , I would think that might be in your wheelhouse , but not even that . But the real one that they're hitting , the one like the can't miss was Blue Bloods . Ever see Blue Bloods ?

Speaker 1

Castle .

Speaker 3

Tom .

Speaker 1

Selleck Castle , you cannot . So every Saturday morning when I go over to the boyfriend's house and hang out for the weekend , he is usually on his computer doing something . He plays on a computer .

I will read or be on my laptop just hanging out , and he usually has the TV on in the background and he leaves it on the channel that plays Blue Bloods all day Saturday . And when I come in I'll talk to him and we'll catch up and we'll say our shit and do everything else and then I will hear Donnie Walberg's fucking voice in the corner from the TV .

Yes , and I will turn around and I will turn it off because I cannot do any of that shit . It's so bad .

Speaker 3

Oh my God , yeah , it is . Donnie Walberg is a key component . There is a I don't know the actor and I'm fairly maligning him , but there's a grandpa character like the old , old , whatever guy , the Tom Selleck's dad who just choose scenery and spits out nonsense .

And I'm just like , if I had the power to shoot an arrow , to pull a bow and just shoot an arrow into the television , I would kill this old man with an arrow because I hate everything he says . And then they do a thing where they go , let's have the Sunday dinner , and here's what happened .

And then you got the women characters who are more progressive , kind of fighting for progressive ideals , which I'm like oh , this is where the line is . The line is like they're like women should be able to vote or whatever . Like something that's like they're defending something that's like dude , this is a you go .

Wait , that's where they think the line is for network TV . Like so I'm like , oh my God . Then I realized , jesus Christ , I'm a fucking pinko .

Speaker 2

I'm so far left .

Speaker 3

I'm falling off this side of the world , compared to whatever the fuck this is . And anyway , you're watching this and I go oh , ok , so this is comforting , this is I see what . For me it felt like kiddie roller coaster rides at a amusement park . Before you could ride the big roller coasters , you could get on the little roller coaster and it was predictable .

It was like , ok , here comes a dip and here comes , and that goes up Because there's a formula to it , but it's satisfying . And so by the end I was sort of like in this mode or I'm like , yeah , let's see what they're going to do this time . And you know like , oh , here's the set . Who's the bad guy ?

I can't tell , but you know it's already been introduced , so it's got to be this guy . And there's an inherent challenge in doing a one-hour show . But in the case of those Dick Wolf-type shows , the Law Orders and the Homicide , whatever all those CSIs , they have the benefit of formula . They know , ok , listen , it's a formula .

They'll tell you in the room no , no , we do it just like this . It works , trust me , every time . Every time it's the same motherfucking thing and that's what people want . Don't mess with the formula . We've been on the air 22 years . We print money , we got a Brinks truck that they deliver every week , and so that's fine and dandy .

But when you go from a half-hour sitcom to a one-hour prestige , drama is what they're trying to do In this episode . We have these moments that we're going to get to , with Nate playing the fiddle , where I'm like what I was ?

Like , ok , I'm along for the ride , but like , wait , wait , huh , like the whole structure of it is like , and they don't have the benefit of being like formula , they have to make it up as they go along , and so it's that the degree of difficulty .

It's like , ok , the triple Lindy , it's adding these elements to your dive from the 10-meter platform , where you're like , oh , if they just go in straight , it's one thing , but once they start to put a twist in and then they start to pull a pike in , you go , ok , wait a second , this is really hard . And that's what Ted Lasso feels like every single week .

They're coming at it with a higher degree of difficulty and therefore opening themself up to more criticism .

Speaker 2

That's a good point . I just want to toss in quickly the triple Lindy is not a real thing . For those of you who are like the what , that is a back to school reference . Rodney Dagerfield's dive in back to school , a movie I used to love .

Speaker 3

Or I guess I still love it .

Speaker 2

I just haven't watched it in I'm sure , 25 years . But yeah , the triple Lindy . For those of you who are like the what oh , of course I appreciate you clarifying that , Coach .

Speaker 3

That's awesome , Rodney Dagerfield . By the way , talk about a joke . You want to talk joke construction .

Speaker 2

Oh yeah , no .

Speaker 3

Holy shit , joke , joke , joke , holy shit . Like , like , like a god like a god , If there's a comedy heaven he's just sitting with his feet in the pool , going like no this is how you do it . I don't get no respect . Seriously , I don't get respect , just a tremendous , tremendous machine of joke .

Speaker 2

There's a clip online of him just killing on Johnny Carson . Like he's on the couch , they're theoretically having a conversation but you just know , like Johnny's just like I'm going to toss you this and then you're going to just go , I'm going to touch you that and he is crushing . Like even Johnny is like kind of out of breath laughing .

He's so funny and he's just got a million jokes .

Speaker 3

Or had a million jokes .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 3

If you ever find that , please share it . I can watch him all day and like some of it's off color now it's a little bit , you know , some of it doesn't hold up , but still , from just a structural perspective he had , he had talk about joke construction where you have to go off there , hit the cliff man .

He I mean just every time like a god , you just go . Oh my god , how does he do this ? But anyway , boss , right here Super League is . When can you pick that up there ?

Speaker 1

Super League is when the world's biggest and wealthiest teams decide to compete against each other . So not only would David never face Goliath , but the Davids would cease to exist altogether .

Speaker 3

Right yeah , which sucks balls , and anybody that wants to do it should be shot into the ocean by like a giant . Barnum and Bailey cannon . It's just shitty , it's all yeah .

Speaker 2

It's everything that we're about to hear , which is it's everything that , rupert would you know what I mean Like . It's like hey , we're the haves , even amongst the haves , we're the really really haves . So why don't we that's like god guys , like , is it never enough ? Is it truly like ? Is it actually never enough ?

But anyway , the Davids thing Higgins thinks of , he's like this is existential for us . He , he , he doesn't , he doesn't like . That's the way that's presented . I thought I think that's worth noting , based on where the episode's going .

Speaker 3

I forget . One of you guys , I think , quoted it to me , or maybe I don't know . I thought we referenced if you watched the Animal Kingdom and one gorilla hoarded all the bananas and then every other gorilla was starving you would say like there's something seriously fucking wrong . But with humans do it . You put them on the cover of Forbes .

Yep , yeah , and you're like what the fuck is happening Like . So anyway , very , very strange . Keep going here , boss , Can you get us right through the end ?

Speaker 1

of the scene here . Sure , wow , you know , I wouldn't be surprised if Rupert was involved in this . Rebecca says , and as she is saying that to her cell phone buzzes , she goes ah , speak of the devil . And then actually turns her phone around and it does say the devil , which is great .

Speaker 2

I like that . I believe that , by the way .

Speaker 1

And she said it was Rupert and Ted goes . Oh sorry , ok , I thought it was the actual devil . For a second , ok , yeah .

Speaker 3

I like it . That reminds me of like the . That was reminiscent of like oh , if we meet in our dreams , you know , let's put me . I actually actually prefer this Ted Lasso , that actually might think it was the actual .

Speaker 2

For me . For me it , yes , and it reminded me of I talked to the owner of the sun , you talk to God , like . For me , I thought it was that kind of like , oh , absolutely . Yeah .

Speaker 3

Yeah , yeah , for sure , that was like the book Actually this is . This episode is so chock full of references we talked about this in the Robert response it is so so many bookends like they're closing so many knots it is just tying up the loose threads . So you just go , man . But yes , that that is a one for one pairing with you .

Talk to God , I thought it was the actual dough . But I'd like the . Whatever that version of Ted Lasso is , I'm here for it . It feels like mystical or something , or some like he . Like he's protected from the crumminess of the world by some invisible shielding or something , and that's why he can operate in a in the nether world of kindness or whatever .

So , anyway , ok , we're going to stop there . This is international break . We will pick it up next time from this spot . Coach , where do people find you if they want to find you ?

Speaker 2

Wherever you get your podcast . You can find a podcast on Stuck AF . We've completed the third season . I'm actually working on guests and so on for the fourth and been going great . People love it . Come , get some motivation , inspiration and people tell some pretty amazing stories about their lives . So check it out .

Speaker 3

It's great . I love it . Excited for the next season , coach , I would . I would listen to you read the read the phone book . Where do people find you ? Not that anyone .

Speaker 1

No , don't don't , don't try looking for me on Twitter wishing ill upon specific Republican elected officials , and that is dumbly underscore chambers . Also , again , people have DMs me . I promise I'm nice . I'll be nice .

If you say hi , I will say hi back and then also eventually getting around to writing some shit as soon as I could put 30 minutes on my schedule to do it at the antagonist which is antagonist , blogcom .

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Speaker 2

I was like where is he going with this ?

Speaker 3

That's probably . It is me in the salt mines , literally pickaxe hammering in the salt mines and then with fucking daiquiris like sitting on lawn chairs , just making fun .

Speaker 1

Everybody knows the salt mines are how you make a podcast . Obviously that makes a lot of sense , Jesus Christ .

Speaker 2

That's great . While we're on the topic , I did have a couple yellow M&Ms , so good , good , good . Pay attention next time .

Speaker 3

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