Ted Lasso | S2 Ep10 Part1 "No Weddings And A Funeral"

Welcome to our Ted Lasso talk , the Tedcast . Welcome all Greyhound fans , welcome all you sinners from the dog track and all the AFC Richmond fans around the world . It's the Lasso way around these parts with Coach , coach and Boss , without further ado , coach Castleton .

Okay , welcome back everyone . Happy days everywhere . Happy 2024 . We are exploring season two , episode 10 of Ted Lasso no weddings in the funeral . Let me give you a brief history of what has happened on this podcast . Once upon a time there were three Ted Lasso diehards who decided to start talking about Ted Lasso , and that was right .

Oh , that was quite a beginning . That was quite an open for the . I smiled quite wide when that episode started . That cracked me up .

Yeah , man , that was that's that's well , we're gonna get to it , yeah .

Let's also do . Solid 90s reference . Solid 90s reference .

Oh , so good , Color me bad . And with us is our boss , emily Chambers .

I got shingles , not not , I'm not gonna sing at you , I just have shingles .

I just wanted everybody to know .

No , no , I just need everybody to . While you're listening to this podcast , I had a cold and then I got shingles and then my cold came back . So now I've got the talent of shingles and a cold . So that's . That's where I'm at today . Well damn , I'm still gonna be energetic . Don't worry , I still have all the jokes .

You're like half the age , maybe 60% of the age , of someone who's supposed to have shingles just to sort of level set here .

And I also think a lot about how I'm Mr Burton's disease from the Simpsons , where all of the diseases are trying to fit through the door at the same time .

And that it's the Three Stooges disease they can't get through .

And he's like so you're saying I'm invincible ? And he's like no , no , no , no , no , no , a swift , stiff breeze could absolutely kill you . Invincible , so that's where I'm at .

Well , thank you for suffering through boss . Today we are . We are going to walk everyone through season two , episode 10 , no Weddings in the Funeral , written by Jane Becker , directed by MJ Delaney . This title is obviously a reference to what boss ?

The movie Four Weddings in the Funeral Correct Four Weddings in the Funeral which I believe . Andy McDowell's . Yeah A .

Few . Grants which starts with it's funny . I really love that movie and I showed it to my kids and it just sort of barely doesn't quite hold up the way I wanted it to . And I think it's because it starts out with like 17 fucks , I think is the first 17 words are fucked .

But that's a fascinating experience . I don't know if I shared this , but we watched Housepart . It's a different kind of movie , but we watched Houseparty with the kids .

I told you I was so excited to show my kids the Big Lebowski . And my daughter , who has lived through school shooting drills her whole school existence , couldn't get past John Goodman calling a handgun and a bowling alley over a nothing thing , which was hysterical to us back then . It was like I'll look at this crazy Vietnam vet . Of course he's whacked .

Just highlighting this , and we'll get to it in the episode I feel like they don't forgive it , like they don't forgive whatever the it is . That is a skew . So I think both our generations learn that like yeah , but you know , sexism it is .

Well , and also just inherent in that it was a different time , means okay , well then it's not applicable today anymore . But in both cases you can't say like oh no , it is still funny . Even if I think it's funny , I can be like oh no , that's not funny .

I get it . That's a good point .

Good point , but we can't tell the kids that it is funny If they're like no , we're children , we know , we know more than you do .

We were raised on the internet .

For sure yeah don't watch movies with your kids is really the don't spend time with them .

Don't rule why ? Right , it's starting with a stupid reading .

Oh , read to your kids . It's not just that movies are outdated or or the political climate has shifted , it's also . We have a . We have a family movie that we watch on Christmas , which is the ref . Have you guys seen the ref ?

Yes , oh but like a while ago what's who's ?

in . This is Dennis Leary . No , I have , I know what you're talking about .

I know exactly what we will be doing ?

Dennis Leary , I have seen none of your movies . You know what ?

You just , you just signed up for a very special episode . We're gonna , we're gonna . I want to watch , you watch . Here's the problem with it it holds up . It is timeless and brilliant . Ted the great late , great Ted Demi was the director . My god , it's a great . It's a great script . It's a great movie . Also stars Kevin Spacey .

Yeah .

Yeah , and he's amazing .

He's amazing .

And the talent is so obvious and you go . My god , what have we lost ? What have we lost , coach ?

So we're ever that innocent ? I don't . I don't want us to sidetrack into this , because I really don't want to go there with that today , but I feel like someone suggested that some case was adjudicated and he's not canceled anymore .

We better check our notes . Yeah , I think he's canceled the fuck .

I'm keeping him there .

Okay .

I well , I don't know about the actual case itself . What I do know is that Anthony Rapp , who , among other things , was in Rent and then the also the movie version of Rent made some pretty serious allegations when Rapp was like 16 .

Yeah , is that the see who was in the apartment with them after some party ?

or something like that , yeah .

That was a really ski V story .

I remember family guys season three . They made a joke about , oh , trying to kids trying to escape from Kevin Spacey's basement , yeah . And also like didn't he just do like an interview ? We got to look , we got to move on . I thought he just I thought he just was on Tucker Carlson's podcast as the character from House of Cards .

Oh Jesus .

Christ .

So I'm like okay , whatever , it doesn't know the point is the point is there ? We talk about this all the time . This is a great . I mean , I'm gonna . I definitely want to hear from the Butter Cups in our , in our online community . This is it's like do you stop listening to Michael Jackson ?

How much of my life is defined by Michael Jackson music .

Oh , my god , like so . Anyway , this is . This is the whole . Can you separate the art from the artist ? I know it's very difficult Someday when bosses canceled . What are we gonna get rid of this podcast ? I don't know .

I don't think I was ever subscribed .

I don't know if I can be canceled . You can't unsubscribe when you haven't subscribed .

You're off the grid . You're off the grid , boss .

We open up to we start the TV show that this podcast is about 11 minutes in . That's pretty good for us .

That's pretty good for us , boss . Well , let's . We got a new year . This is usually at the 25 minute mark by now . We fade up . This is over . I want to sex you up by Color Me Bad , put me in a great mood . Over titles right Black . Over titles like oh man , this is . This is some quote . We talk about how this is a show .

boss , I was just going to say . Now is the 30 minute segment where Coach Bishop talks about Hannah Waddingham's back in great detail .

I've decided to make that a bonus episode because that's at least a 45 minute conversation . But yeah , I was suffice to say I was fully into this episode immediately .

I'm going to do the companion episode . Ross is howling laughing . I'm going to do the Toe M G Mo . Holy shit , this guy is hot Companion episode because , jesus Christ , how is he adorable and like sexually attractive at the same time . How many people can you say that about ? Go ahead , list them , list them . How many people can do cute and hot ?

I think you accidentally just quoted Steve Carell's character about Julianne Moore's character in Crazy Stupid Love . Is that the one ? Oh , holy shit , this is Ryan Reynolds . I think that's the exact line , nice . So , apparently only Sam and Julianne Moore .

I just don't think it's that . I think it's a trick . I think it's a trick . I don't think it's very common , although , although you know Juno Temple , although I kind of feel like , she .

I kind of feel like she more so alternates effectively , quite effectively .

When you're in a love scene , kissing scene , onset . So it's funny to look at this with a protractorial eye because you know first of all their clothes . Underneath all that stuff , you know they just lay down and she's got pasties on her front Like it's like sort of stickers that go over her front . You cover as much as possible with the audience .

I , I do love this relationship and part of what I love about it is the , the stark contrasts of it . I mean , you've got the age difference . I mean even physically , looking at them , like he's a dark dude and she's you know , not just that she's white , but her skin is light , and then she's got all that , the hair . You know what I mean ?

And you say that it's an improbable relationship or unlikely , whatever I forgot the word you just used but that is true and this day and age it is . But it shouldn't be . But it shouldn't be and coach you and I talk all the time about how you have this dynamic .

It works , looks like . So I'm curious , boss , do you have a reaction to that side of it ? Just the age difference dynamic older woman , younger man versus older man , younger woman .

You know , I'm actually over here wondering why Mark from accounting is catching all these strays when he didn't do shit , he didn't do it . He didn't do anything . All of a sudden Hassleton's coming for him . It's fine

Remember when Rebecca went out without talking to Sam in front of everybody at the company and said we're cool dating and we're cool with it , and that's it .

That's funny .

It took me a second to figure out what you were doing . Oh , we can't , we can't , we can't .

We can't . Yeah , I was going to say don't go any further For those who are watching or listening , in order .

Yeah , that's right If you're listening in order . She never did that , folks , so we're going to . We're jumping in here in this really wonderful moment . It's a good way to start an episode as far as I'm concerned . Sam's got his . He's running his fingers through Rebecca's gladriral hair .

I also . I liked and it's been years because you know I got married and then we had kids , so that's that . But that like you get to know somebody and then you're hanging out , you end up spending whatever it is the weekend or whatever , like you just kind of like , end up lounging around and enjoying hanging out .

Yeah , we get into it differently and it is right there is a . There is a sort of relaxing kind of you know they're both happening very clearly , Both happy to be in this relationship . The question is , do they talk about this relationship to everyone ? What Sam says , what boss to Rebecca ?

says very directly , should we tell people about us ? And Rebecca says oh , I'm enjoying the secrecy .

Right . Usually that's because . That's because some . You know that's tough when one person wants to be out about it and one person doesn't . That puts some pressure on the relationship . Why do you want to be , you know ? Why can't we tell ? Are we doing something wrong ? Are you embarrassed of me , do I not ? You know there's the term moped boyfriend .

That's funny Wow .

I mean , I just I mean , come on .

I didn't make it up , I'm saying there . That is a reason why you have that sort of . That's one of the reasons . So you know it's this dynamic here sneaking around at work . Doesn't it feel scandalous and fun ? Rebecca says this is maybe her , unless you've got a little little little secrecy kink . No , it's so stra I laughed out loud .

I thought to and I don't know if you made anything of this , as she , as Rebecca's , figuring out what it means to be boss is , is some of this like oh , so this was the kind of fun Rupert was having , and it just struck me as as as you were sort of talking about like is she in a way , she was like the victim of this kind of thing ?

No , actually , and that makes

I think that's a great insight and I've been told before , like in terms of rules , you know , I've been told before , don't get into relationships . You need to keep a secret , which I understood the wisdom of .

But I think you're right . But then you tried it and it was a lot of fun .

Yeah , well , yeah , but no , but really I think . Yeah , I think you make a great point , which is sure that's one of those rules that probably works for most of the time , but there are times where you're like , yeah , it's not everybody's business . I stepped to this and I won't go too far down this path .

Yeah , no , no , it's true . And we have these two kissing and he says I'm going gray . She says I have not seen one gray hair anywhere . And we look at his , we look at his hair . He doesn't have gray hair . And of course I was like don't . And of course they do . I'm the , I know , I'm the resident crude . I was like oh my God , how , how dare you ?

Oh , that's not . That was my experience of that in the least .

I get to pull my own damn hair . Listen , I just think it hurts to pull hair . So it's funny because it made me .

Have you , have you had that experience before .

Oh , tell me Bob .

You've been pressured into having hair removed at the root in order to maintain a certain physical .

Well , coach you , you kick that hornet's nest , enjoy I can't , I can't empathize .

I'm not allowed to be an ally here , boss .

I mean , actually I'm not even worried about that , because what I keep thinking is people who didn't start going gray at 22 , like the chambers do , like my dad was in high school and had gray hair and pimples at the same time . Because fucking , of course , out Armpit hair , nothing . Nobody cares about a gray armpit hair .

If you ever see a gray eyebrow hair .

you feel free to pluck it . I'm giving you permission , Yikes .

I've not . I , my beard has fully signed on with the gray movement , but I don't recall gray eyebrow , yeah , but gray beard on men is a whole other thing .

Just means more people 40 years younger than you call you , sir Right .

Yeah , no , no , it's not big enough . It's like ridiculous yeah .

You're like a wise old fucking Gandalf or something like I'm like , I'm still pretty stupid , okay , but I'll be sir to you . Yeah , thank you , gray beard . So she thinks that .

You know it starts shouting a lot of stuff about how you shall not pass . I would like to see that I will .

I will shout that all fucking day .

That's great . That's great .

We cut to these guys in the kitchen and real quick , I just wanted to say the pulling of the , the armpit here , which is not a sentence . I ever thought I would ever start a sentence with that phrase , but there we are . No , I should Struck me . Struck me as another way of showing another level of intimacy . You know what I mean .

I don't know , they're just so comfortable with each other , and this is where we you know what I mean .

I just again , I like that they were establishing . This isn't just like , ooh , you get me off , which pretty clearly they . They're good at that part too , but it's more than that .

Yeah .

Yeah , that's either one of you guys . Do you pick at stuff like fingernails or skin ?

Yeah , I'm the worst .

I'm so terrible at it , I do it all the time . People that I like , especially ones whose bodies I have access to , I will pick at their skin too , and it's gross . It's super gross . I'm sorry , I said it out loud .

I understand how gross it is . No , yes , go . This is interesting .

It's actually , it's like a , it's like a very common thing . The last word , it's a primate thing . They call it grooming .

Yeah , yes , yeah , I fucking . I thought that . I was just a gross weirdo who was like oh well , I am , I am , I'm like I'll let me listen , I'm going to get that back here I'm going to get in the addition to that .

It's going to be amazing , but I grew up .

Yeah , no , I'm I . It's like people are like can you not do that to me please .

Well , if you , you know , I've I've championed chimp empire before and there's a whole political like , yes , it's grooming and taking care , but it's also political Like , if you're around the crew and nobody's grooming you , you might have , you might have fucked up , like you might need to .

You don't have any boys . Yeah , yeah , you don't have any boys Exactly .

I'm going to hug you .

She's good , she's good . So we're in the kitchen . Rebecca is in her bra . It's going to be too much for coach to talk about , so I'm going to say just keep , keep going here .

She is .

she's right and he is . He is lean and mean . He is looking good . I mean just saying these are beautiful people . There's a reason that why they're on television . So he's she's making some coffee . He's like , you know , if we told people about us that I could do this in public kisses her neck . You're not going to let this one go , are you ?

Oh , it's Rebecca's mom .

How about Greece ? Why , I don't know when ?

How ? But now , thanks to you , I can't hear Greece without thinking I am Greece . So thanks for that .

Yes , now that I am .

Greece . Yeah , that's good . Yeah , we got to get you to Greece .

Mama Casalton with the . I am Greece .

You guys would . You guys would love it . It is . It is beautiful . I'd love to . Yeah , it's great . I don't know why she says Greece , but she says it . Is this a reference to anything that we're aware of ? No , we don't know . Okay .

It just seems like a good vacation spot .

Yeah , I was going to say is that like if the money English people do that , I would have less than no Very much to yeah .

no , no , it's the Florida of .

Oh so .

Oh yeah , well , there are several places , not just that , but historically it's been affordable and gorgeous . And there are certain islands where people just come back over and over and over . They kind of claim an island and then you know , we're always in mykonos , we're always in the San Dereini , we're always in , you know .

It's a pleasure to formally meet you , deborah . I sincerely wish I wasn't in my boxers right now , right .

I mean , what's he ?

gonna . I mean , what do you say ? I mean , in fairness , is that the smoothest line ? No , I challenge anyone to produce a smooth line for this moment , like you are standing in your drawers , but he's still polite . Oh no , he's , he's , he's , yeah , he's , he does the best he can Like . This is suboptimal , to say the least .

But at least at least he's authentic about it , you know .

I would like I've told some stories about my mother before . She's great , I really like her . Uh , you know it's questionable things here and there , but by and large we get along extremely well .

That was great , I was just great . I was telling you to know that , kathy right there Exactly .

She , she gave no fucks . She was like , no , we're going to meet this guy If anything . I get the sense that she was like what an opportunity to really just create the most uncomfortable shit ever .

I'm not passing this up . She's like I actually have some place to be .

Fuck that shit , I'm not new , I mean in her defense . I understand like I would take that joke too .

I would also do that . It's awfully tempting .

I mean , come on , it's all for those watching in linear order , we will see a parent in the future , ted Lasso , that really thrives on awkward situations and like creating that funny . One of the best characters on the show coming up . Deborah says box of briefs and like clunky exposition they leave very little to the imagination .

So it is an inside baseball . I also thought she is so enjoying this , like it's good that you told that Kathy story because she could have made it less awkward . And she definitely chooses not to . I mean , she basically says love , how it's hanging there , sam .

I mean like God damn like . I was like God damn like .

I get it , I get it . You can see balls , like I didn't need you know what I mean , but like she just is , like let me not , you know , leave this unsaid . So yeah , I thought that was funny .

Well , she doesn't even leave the room .

I mean seriously like they are not closed . I'll see you in the living room .

We talk about the different types of comedy . I really appreciated the physical comedy here of Sam just crouching .

Yes , like . What can he do , like he's ?

like I guess like past the line of the counter to just break line of sight . I thought that was really good , that was really funny , really well done , well directed , well acted .

Also I bought that . He thought of it in that moment , because he does it kind of like well , what do I I ?

well , I don't know how to disappear .

Like it's very like . Okay , I just this is the best .

We have . He says I'm so sorry , I am so sorry , and Rebecca trying to normalize the situation . Very well , mother , what has father done this time ? And to which Deborah deadpans he died . And we get a shot of Rebecca smile fading . And this is all now .

So hold on before we , before we go to the next scene , because I think there's some significant stuff in this moment .

I think that's great coach . Yeah , no , it's a good , good catch and we'll probably get people who have finished season three will probably have more insight into that specifically with Sam , but his relationship with his parents and that stuff is explored later on .

Also , I love so much that you're like I don't want to sound judgy , but also when Deborah pulled this shit like yeah , no , you're completely dead on . That's so cruel of her .

Right , absolutely .

Not even not gentle . It's like actually like harsh Are you , are you ? Are you making a joke about how my dad just died Cause you need to wait at least five years ? I'm telling you from experience it's five years , and then you could start joking about that shit .

But not when it happens . It's so deep that you have that number figured out . And I know you didn't just snatch that number Like I do the thing where I tell jokes and I know like certain numbers sound funny but I can tell no , that wasn't that , that was you . Having done the work , you could show us the math . Right now it's five years .

How , how , who ? Who's dad has been passed away longer out of you ?

My dad passed in 2001 . Oh yeah .

No , no , no , no , my dad was 94 . Yeah .

I thought , yeah , from the stories .

I thought you know , four weddings in a funeral came out in 19th . Oh , wow , yeah . I don't know if we mentioned that on a podcast .

And I graduated in 19th . There we go , okay .

So we are now in the coach's room . We see the team huddled together . Beers got to feed on the table , higgins standing behind him . We see Nate's hair is starting to turn gray . It looks like . For the first time , we're noticing that there's a quick shot of Ted . There's a lot of shared looks , but no one is saying anything .

If this scene needs to be written , this is the way it would be written . Yes , correct . Like again , I might have done different storylines right .

But if they want to present the scene , yes , Okay , I'm saying you would know you would be able to . Yes , yes .

The characters are so well drawn in general that you would have some insight into you know what you think , how you think you would have done this .

Yeah , if you asked me where I thought Roy Kent thought people went after they died , he would say nowhere , right , like nothing happens . Yeah , you're just then you're gone .

It's funny because I was watching this and rewatching it before the podcast this morning and Juliana came and sat down next to me because she had somehow fallen off Ted Lasso before this point , and she's like , oh , I've never seen this . And as she's watching she went ah , yeah , okay , she's like it's perfect . And I was like , what do you mean ?

Yeah , you know , actually that's interesting . I love that she said that . I love that she picked up on that .

You do nothing to my credit score Coach . Do you believe that people like that ? It's so hard for me to so listen . My friend and I were playing a video game and there's like a morality sort of code in the game . It's hard to . Whatever it's . For people who know it it's called Baldur's Gate 3 .

I love so much that essentially a robot , a binary code , with absolutely no idea about the outside world was like you bitches are boring , yeah , I gotta go . I gotta go find something more interesting . Look at your health economy . Fuck your health economy . That's great . Listen , man .

All right , so I'm looking for a help myself . Economy .

And now I was only going to say that I played the Witcher 3 . It's one of my favorite games . I love it so much . There's a scene where you save somebody and then after that they start telling you a story about how grateful and wonderful you are and some other stuff .

I love that . This is all totally foreign to coach , but yeah , I'm the person I have on multiple .

It hasn't happened as much because we don't go as many parties as we did in our 30s , but Daphne would laugh all the time because I'm the person who , like we go to a party and someone's parent happened to be in town and so everyone's partying and I end up in the corner talking someone's mom . For two and a half hours she's told me her college years .

She's like you're a crazy person , Wait a second I'm like no , really , Did you just ?

equate those two ? Did you equate talking to old people at parties with nuts ?

I wasn't equating it , but I see , I see how you got there . But no , I see it is just like it's part of the I'm just in the experience , like to me that's the experience , like that's what I'm doing right now .

Okay , I'm watching the show .

So I'm watching the show . If I'm talking to this person , it isn't like , oh , I'd rather be over there , you know , playing bear pong . It's like , no , I'm over here talking to this person right now and I'm curious . I'm actually curious to hear what they have to say , or yeah , Is there any part of that ?

that is also that you don't want the person to feel overlooked because they're putting in a certain amount of effort , like if somebody comes to town you're like , oh well , this person isn't here all the time . I want to fucking talk to him . And if somebody is in the credits , you want to be like they worked on the show .

Like I want to acknowledge that yeah , I think there is . Yeah , I think there is some . Yeah , I think I would have to think through like the you know detail of it , but I think you're on point there that that's part of it that does resonate with me and I , if I'm with other people , I'll let it go .

Of course you do . Oh , you're the sweetest .

I thought I was nice , but I don't . I skip credits . So I see , I don't think credits are an inherent part of like a title sequence . I think it's utterly unnecessary and sometimes it's only contractually necessary . It's only there because of the way the industries run and certain people already have it in their ride or they need . You know what I mean .

You know what I mean , yeah no , I totally get what you mean . I think you're probably with , you know , the majority of sane people . I don't pretend for a moment that that's normal , but yeah , that makes sense .

So all right . So we're in the jar of the reunion or home . Roy doesn't think you go anywhere after you die . Ted says you know , you know . Growing up I used to believe if you did good things you went to heaven . Did bad things you went to hell . Nowadays , I know we all just do both .

I mean you may have , I mean it feels very . It feels very Castleton , like this reaction and the fact that like you weren't like oh , I have questions about that , but like I , was like what ?

And I'm looking around like are you ? And they're like , yeah , like everyone's like huh like hell , like yeah , it's bad , bad place , we're naughty . And then the pastor this is a Lutheran church . The pastor is looking in , like the assistant teacher went to get the pastor .

No .

Oh yeah yeah , yeah and listen . Martial punishment was part of my childhood . This was not a typical , but this was it , this one where it was like we're not even waiting for you at home , you getting it . How fucking dare you , how dare you in church question anything ? You shut the fuck up and you listen .

I now I do think like I remember this in a general kind of way , or maybe you didn't tell that last , I don't know . But because it is kind of coming back , because I started to tell a story and I was like , and I think I've told this story , so I'll do an abridged version , but short version .

I was brought to apologize to the pastor for the . I was brought to church to apologize to the pastor . Wow , my dad stand behind me , me in a chair , looking at the standing pastor in front of me .

So these two men are standing over you as you apologize for asking about .

No , no , no one behind me , one in front of me , and I thought I was seven years old . I thought he already gave me his best weapon I'm not fucking apologize . And I just sat there and there's a scene in a river runs through it . I don't know if you've ever seen a river in a street . Ever seen that scene ?

I don't remember , I don't . I mean , I saw it Young Brad Pitt , literally . They all .

It's a very religious , very religious family . My father's a preacher , played by Tom Scarrett , and the young , the young Brad Pitt character is the younger brother , a very stubborn , and they sit at the table and he's not eating his oatmeal . Little boys know he's home . He said you'll sit at this , so you'll .

What am I apologizing for ?

I asked him a question . I'm like , no , we're not . So anyway , I would just say like there's , I guess it was the same way when you say , hey , that's not how you find out how your father died . I was like , wait , that's not how you find out You're gonna burn in the tunnel .

Yeah , that's not how you find out .

I'm gonna burn in eternal health . I'd say a lake of fire .

Yeah , can we discuss this Like what is happening ? Yeah , holy shit .

And everyone just goes along riding down the all , down the burn in eternal life . I'm like what is going on ?

I fucking I number one . I cannot believe that . That was how you like . I don't remember learning about the concept of hell , but I cannot fucking believe that it was like that , or it was just like yeah , no you might . You might spend all eternity in hell . Also , I can't believe that the two of you have both been kicked out of Sunday school .

Granted , I didn't go to Sunday school . Yeah , that should have been kicked out . Who's the badass now , boss ?

Yeah Well . So here's the thing I was iffy about religion in general in afterlife , like not sure about it . I didn't get tricked . I was not tricked . But a friend of mine was like hey , do you want to come do summer camp with us ? And she met church camp and that's fine . She was like there's like some church stuff but it's like not that big it was .

Yeah , that's a whole thing .

It wasn't even the worst church ever , whatever . I just I was not like . At some point in the week I was like these people are fine , like I don't have an issue with it , but I'm still not sure about all this .

So it's just that , huh .

It's that .

Ah , I mean , that was very nice , that was very nice Wait .

I don't get to do anything . Fun my entire life because Jesus doesn't like it and my reward is that I get to do that .

No , no , thank you . Well , but you just had that internally . I remember being in those types of things and then back then , if you were like you know , even as I got older , you'd be in rooms like whatever various rooms . Life puts you in these rooms with a lot of religious people , whatever . And if you're like like , oh , and Jesus , jesus , jesus .

I'm like , how does ?

he know I'm going to hell . How do I know that you're not going to like who I'm like ? I don't understand . This is all crazy .

I didn't even know there was a hell until 20 minutes ago . Yeah , now I'm going , cause I asked .

Now , cause I asked a question that was in high school . I asked a question . I said , oh , you know , how do you , if no one's ever died , and come back to like tell the tale out of curiosity ? How's anybody like why can't ? I just say , but ? And they were like what Are you crazy ? Like you know what I mean .

That's their energy and they're not willing to just say , all right , fine , mom , fine dad , you say that , then okay , right , they really are just like no , that doesn't make sense . And what the fuck's ? The lake of fire , anyway , but the the a lion . That struck me and we more .

I don't want to be judgmental boss , but like you , not enjoying a lily white evangelical , all whites only picnic Boy . It doesn't get much better than that , you know Really .

Yeah no , I know it's so much mayonnaise , you wouldn't fucking know it's so much mayonnaise .

They put on music . There was not a rhythm . No one had rhythm for 300 miles . Yeah , any direction .

Just a bunch of awkward hips . You know , what's fucking amazing is that those bastards found non-buttermilk ranch . They were like no , that's too much tang , we can't have that much flavor we need , we need plain ranch .

That's like what do you eat no nuts ?

That's fine All right , we find out what Ted's take on this is . We get Higgins . I'd like to imagine a heaven where animals are in charge and humans are the pets and Keely makes like a . Keely is in favor of this . He says I'd like to spend eternity curled up in front of the fire at Sidney Crawford's feet , which is sweet .

What the ?

fuck Nate , oh wait , and , and , and we definitely get Ted going . Hmm , like , okay , that's a lot . I think it's also not because there could be different versions of that tiger . Right , there could be the version of that tiger that protects everyone , I love .

That's exactly the type of power that you want a person you want to talk to , oh yeah , exactly right , I mean like 100% .

So , yeah , that's it's . It's quite a glimpse , all right .

Yeah , it's . It's interesting , ted notices it . Beard is sort of non-plus . You know , if you weigh a person's body right after death , it's 21.3 grams lighter , and some say that's the way the soul says beard . Isn't that the movie ? 21 grams , let them .

yeah , yes .

Roy , I love this . Roy says what here boss .

Whoever figured that out ? Clearly weighed someone , murdered them , then weighed them again . You live , you die , you're done . Good night .

I love that . Yeah , whoever figured that out clearly weighed someone , murdered them and then weighed them again . I mean yeah .

Like how well , unless you're murdering somebody on a scale , how else are you actually going to be able to figure that out Exactly ? 21 grams , 21.3 grams . You , you could tell the difference between a 0.3 grams from when somebody's alive and when they're dead .

It makes me want Because then you murdered them naked .

You murdered them naked . You put , got them naked , put them on a scale , weighed them , murdered them , weighed them again , murdered them . And also also , depending on the murder , you're going to have blood . Like , how do we not know that it's just the regular blood loss that's going out ?

Murder , murder , murder . Change the fucking record . That's from a hot fuzz .

Oh , I was like what it makes this has I know that's a good guy got it .

Yeah , yeah , this has given me shades of the neck . You ever see the neck , the show , the neck .

And that's where I you put that on my list . I haven't made it there , but you did put that on my list .

Yeah , once upon a time , that feels like the type of place where this experiment would you know , Mrs Jones is about to expire . Let's get her on the scale . Let's get her on a scale . Okay . So Roy walks out After his . He just he doesn't cotton to a lot of banter about this . You live , you die , you're done . Good night , good night everybody .

He's on his period .

I'm curious if you made anything of that joke . I felt like it was one of those like I can say that because I'm a woman was kind of like the way it landed , like if anyone else in that room said that it'd be like whoa , whoa , whoa , whoa .

Yes , I think and I don't know , I am much more forgiving of some jokes when you know where the humor is coming from . There was , you know , during the Black Lives Matter protests and everything else .

What was that Right right , right why did ?

we need this moment . Right .

Wait , blackface is wrong . It's a thing that we learned in 2020 .

Coach , actually my daughter's favorite a Marvel superhero . My 10-year-old is a black panther and I called Coach . It's cool for her to wear a black panther , right ? Yeah , it's a superhero , and he's like I mean just , you know , man , no blackface Like Coach I'm not gonna , that's . He literally said that to me , you got it .

You got to , just if you're listen , if you were the person who was gonna vouch for the costume , if you're gonna be like , yes , no , I am approving that . You need to include every candidate .

I was saying , orlando Bishop said and this was fine , yeah , it was so funny .

Here's his number he said , it was fine .

Coach was so exasperated like come on , man , I'm further along than that .

It was fine . He's like don't kill any grandmas . No , I'm not .

I don't know . I know I've done a little work . What if she accidentally killed a grandma and then he doesn't wanna get stuck with that ?

They're vile , terrible people . That is the point . That is the point .

When Mac says oh no , no , no , I can do it because I really care about the character you're like hey , Mac , you're a fucking idiot . I love you so much but you're an idiot , anyway .

So my point of all this oh sorry , go ahead because I have another example but say yeah , go ahead , sorry .

Only that when Keely says it . If Nate , right after saying I would be a tiger who would kill people , had said something about Roy's period , entirely different vibe . Her saying like oh , by the way , actually men get hormonal and bitchy and he's on his period is just funny .

Agreed and I thought that two things that came up during that time that I was like see , this is why you can't just have bright lines . But then there are people who , of course , if you don't have a bright line , we'll always figure out how to be assholes .

Wait , wait , wait , coach , coach , hold on . You left out that you buried the lead . You have Tracy and Jenna doing each other or basically white him doing white woman , you can't talk about that at work anymore .

Yeah , yeah .

Ah , they doing each other , yay , yay .

But

Yeah , Jenna .

Yeah , and Jenna shows up in blackface and she's doing like Silver Streak , richard Pryor , gene Wilder , kinda like shit . And I'm sorry , man , like say what you want . That shit was funny . It was funny and , like you're pointing out , the entire point was these two are insane . This is not a way that we have this conversation . So to get rid of it .

Yeah , yeah , yeah , you gotta look at intent .

You gotta look at intent , yeah , also before we go to the next topic , real quick , tropic Thunder was a fucking classic and I know a lot of black people will hate that . I said that , but it was funny . And again , what do you mean , you people ?

Oh , what do you mean ? I'm like what do you mean , you people , oh yeah , oh my God .

Come on , man , no , no , no , so good , so good that's the most popular take .

These are all listen , but it's I like being honest about these things . I'd like to talk . First of all , talk things out . It's good . This is what my problem with hell was when I was in second grade . Secondly , it's nice to we can talk about these things without it being hostile .

Yes , another level , yeah .

Then you think of Westworld . He's so . He's brilliant , he's a , he's a . He is a black author and they show he's like what is black . What do people want ? Whatever , and it's , they cut to another author reading on the stage and this was what's insecure .

What's her name ? Issa Rae , issa Rae . Yeah , it's a great clue .

And she's like I'll be saying that you know , like whatever , like death Exactly . And then the person that shoots up in the audience is a gray haired white lady , and so and claps that one shot is enough . I almost died .

I laughed so hard .

It's great , I thought I was going to pass out .

That's just the trailer . Yeah , no , it's great , so it's like , okay , yeah , let's talk about this . Like , why is it that ? And and so yeah , once you squelch the people trying to make a statement about it from a position where the intent is not sort of detrimental , you go all right .

Like , let's just get real here . Like fucking Trump , throwing a tantrum over every goddamn thing all the fucking time , cannot control his emotions whatsoever . And not the first Like Trump is the most recent fucking George W Bush . He was a little bitch and he would just get pissed off and go to worse places and do shit .

I love that unprofessional could be used there , like somehow , like that's in the same , like that gets categorized alongside not responding to email , forcing your subordinates to come into the bathroom while you shit , or blind copying the wrong people .

Yeah , you didn't clear the printer as often as you should have been , you just left that shit on there .

You made me watch .

You take a shit .

That's why you just can't have . Yeah , because women were so erratic with their periods . I was going to reference a Supreme Court , a current Supreme Court justice who they're hearing was crying and carrying on . And you're like I if this was a woman over game over , yeah yeah . Well , they get disqualified before they even get up there .

You know what ? Sorry , I got very quick rep my actual for real nerd street cred and tell you that there was an episode of the TV show sliders which I'm pretty sure I have possibly Jerry O'Connell's mom watched , and that was it , nobody else .

Yeah , no , that's not at all a thing .

Crazy , crazy , crazy . But sliders actually was one of the good things about . When you hear about sliders , they're like oh , it's actually smarter than you think and a little bit ahead of its time and cancel too early is what I heard , but I only saw like half of the episode .

Well see , you were part of the problem If you had been staying home on Friday nights watching TV like you're supposed to be not having friends .

So he's on his period . When we cut the boys in the locker room they're all sitting around . Jamie's got his icon hat on . Isaac speaks up . He says they're all going to go to the funeral as a team . This means he points to people like he says ties , shirts , and he points to Jamie which is a great .

I mean they always leave in those in there for , like , we know you're a real fan , we're going to give you , we'll give you a little something there .

Oh yeah , yeah , jamie would be in a jacket with no shirt , no shirt , just great . And no trainers and everybody groans no trainers . There's a raw ass . Whoa , whoa , whoa , whoa , whoa . Okay , but what does he ask here , coach ?

What if they're really nice ? Yeezys , which made me laugh out loud Like I was like put on some shoes , but I also get it Like I get . Like it is so rare that I decide an occasion really merits like actual dress shoes , like if you see me in some dress shoes , like all right , we are no longer fucking around here Like it is a serious situation .

Yeah , I can't remember the last time . So I it would have to be like a yeah , something , but right , this come , this moment .

that follows it right . So I , what color he's like ? All right , I wasn't prepared for that question . You know , I'm willing to hear you out . The roses bright red . But the best part of it is he says it really , thinking bright red is a selling point , like he , he really , and , and Sam raises it , his eyebrows like huh , huh .

In a different , in a different time , like it's . Like I'm sure this is how I'm sure , right .

No , he doesn't mean , I don't give a shit . He's like oh , I want to look my absolute best . Yes , yeah .

Do you know how hard it is to write ? To rock bright red shoes Like you need a level of style in order to get there . This is when he is showing up .

Yeah , seriously , yeah .

So Isaac just stares at him , stone golem , and he deflates . He's like , all right , I'll wear some dress shoes . And Sam Sam Patts him on the shoulder Like thanks for taking a shot . You took one for for their , all of us , for the team . Danny Rojas says where do you get their shoes ? And Colin , this is fantastic . This is a really smart insight .

I don't have time to stand in line at midnight and wait till morning to buy new shoes , which , again , that is what this is , yeah .

These guys like you , mean we got to buy special shoes .

I mean , that's what we do for special . I just thought that's how you get .

That's where that's from . Special , special shoes , yeah , spring .

I mean , what do you think ? Like Zorro just walked in 354 on some Wednesday afternoon and got bright red Yeezys , I think not .

like you got to get in line brother , and Jamie from Manchester says you don't have to do that for shoes like this mate . For the shoes like these mate , nobody wants them .

This was such a simple it was such a simple joke to set up and you know we'll talk about where it goes from here that it really struck me as brilliant , like it was totally appropriate to what's going on . I believed it because of the characters . It's actually real , a real palette cleanser so far we know like somebody's father died .

For sure .

So God , god damn , doesn't get much heavier than that .

It was like I just hate you have to wear . Yes , it's like the only time in my whole life I have to wear shoes . Yeah , you know what I mean . You just have that feeling and then they ran with it . But it was appropriate . You're right , it softens the mood a little bit . It gives you a little insight into these guys .

Like what shoes are these ? What's happening , yeah ?

Yeah , like shoes , like it's totally foreign to these guys .

I want to call something out . You mentioned it here . I thought it was cool in the opening shot with Rebecca and Sam in bed or a couple other things , and the direction .

I agree with you , coach , and there's ways to do establishing shots right . The standard way is a certain like eye level , medium shot , right , and you're , and you're , it's a locked off shot , it's just locked , yeah , static static . You might have somebody walk through frame to give it motion or you might , you know , like a pedestrian .

I mean it's got that vibe to it . I mean you shall not pass man Like , yeah , that's the thing .

Right , right , it's very true . Rod Irongate and walk us through the scene . Voss , we have Rick Astley singing . Never Gonna Give you Up .

Yeah , god bless the internet for creating Rick Rolling , because it allowed me to find out that Rick Astley the person is actually maybe not that bad . Specifically , he did Never Gonna Give you Up with Foo Fighters not too long ago and that was awesome . I mean , I'm a Foo Fighters for that . Yeah , no , no , no .

He's doing all kinds of things . He's like great . And he is . He's like showing up all over the place doing all kinds of things , playing drums for a different band , like no , he's like super fun , oh great . And that was like that was right . During the pandemic he had this , the rick-a-sons , or something like that . That's funny .

Yeah , I mean it's like if Charlie Bit my Finger became like a huge humanitarian , like it's just fucking weird that these are the times we live in . But so we are in Rebecca's bedroom and it's actually panning down from the wall like showing this this is her bedroom from when she was a teenager . Like it hasn't been updated since she left to go to university .

It is not . I think it's you . Go ahead , it's not who .

Well , it is not Devon Sowa or Jonathan Taylor Thomas , because I was very familiar with all of their Tiger Beats and this was not one of them .

No , I think it's my first .

I don't know .

I'm just .

I was just looking at the still image here . I think it's from the Blue Lagoon , Christopher Atkins is that his ? Name .

Actually H ? Is that the Blue Lagoon ?

Can you look up Blue Lagoon boss ?

What's his ?

name Christopher .

Yeah , I'll check that in a second . Also , before I forget , it's John Rhys Davies is the name I was trying to come up with Gimli and Lord of the Rings and Sala in .

Indiana Jones Sala in Indiana Jones , yeah , run .

Yeah , oh , my God .

Man , I should re-watch that movie Famous .

Please , I can't be in this movie .

Yeah , so , hey , man . So Rebecca in bed is shouting oh this fucking song , mother , turn it Off . Deborah shouting hang on , hang on , I can't hear you . And she says of course you can't fucking hear me because the song is so loud . And then , as she's coming in , she says what did you want ? Rebecca says why are you playing that song ?

This exchange I thought was incredibly important in terms of their relationship . Well , first of all , this is from my own work . Whenever I start hearing the word should , I know there's some bullshit afoot , somebody's bullshitting themselves or the people around them . That's just my . That has to be true for other people .

I'm in the best emotional . Sorry , go ahead . I'm in the best emotional place in my whole life and I'm happy like four and a half percent of the time .

I mean maybe five , that's what .

I want to know Right right . No , no , no , listen , yeah , no , you should .

Like also why does it playing ?

It's the same song .

Why does playing it where you are not ? It's almost like the spirit of the song , like infuses happiness , right , like , if you like . If my alarm goes off and it plays my favorite song , I think that's different than having like the house PA system blasting whatever song it is .

Like , even if I were there alone , I would think that yeah . You know what I mean , just because , yes , that then it's less about hearing the song and more about the song being present .

Right , it's like , yeah , it's like the song's a character now in this . You know , welcome back song , you know anyway .

Listen . I think it's great if people are happy every day . It's not realistic , so maybe this is aspirational . I love what you said about should . By the way , coach , I don't want to gloss over that . I think that's good and I think people should listen and think about that in their own lives , because it happens all the time and people miss .

That's and that's . Yes , it's a shorthand where we don't have to say because we would all feel more comfortable if you , or because we've all decided that parents are always right or because we've all right . It always has that , but you don't . Part of the key is not saying the other part , so it just becomes like , yeah , you should do that , don't you know ?

Yeah , I think , especially when you're talking about something that you believe somebody else should do because then the unsaid part of that is you should take me out to dinner , or else I'm going to be pissed at you , or else I'm going to be unhappy with you , and I think that both of them are talking past that .

Rebecca , do you want to talk ? About that they both , as you point out that , like Rebecca , could have said , well , I don't feel happy today , or I shouldn't feel happy today , and as well Deborah could have said , well , I try to feel happy every day , rebecca , and it'd be a far healthier , clearer conversation .

We've called out Deborah's narcissism before and this is very me centric and I am happy I don't need to talk about anything . The old Rebecca used to love that song . I was like isn't that funny how they worked in .

Old Rebecca , and that means a different thing . It's like such a Now . Old Rebecca is young .

Yeah , exactly , old Rebecca is a young Rebecca , but not Bex . The whole world used to love that song . Then we heard it at ad nauseam and now we're over it . Rebecca says well , I don't work that way . Once I love something , I love it forever .

Well , and I don't want to overdo it , but Rebecca describes a coming of age moment right there and I think it's deeply significant . But , like the whole , you know what I mean . She's like we were talking about church earlier when I was a child . I spoke as a child . She's like , yeah , that was then like I also don't wear parachute pants anymore . It's over .

Yeah , Very , very true .

You know you can change , and just I'll go ahead and Sorry but not to time travel too much , but because of something that we find out later in the episode . It's also that the song was good and that it was ruined for her in the same way that what she associates with that song she loved , and then that was ruined for her also .

Boston . Yeah , okay , you know you can change this room to whatever you want . You don't need to keep it like this for me , says Rebecca . No , it reminds me of when we were close . I want it that way , which suggests they are no longer close .

but yes , was that intentional ? Yes , I think it was intentional .

I hope so .

I didn't hear it until you just said it . I was like , oh my God , they dropped another reference into the dialogue . What's that ? Yeah right , I mean we do boy band shit , Boy band shit , Like I'm not wrong , right .

Oh yeah , no , no , no no .

Can you ?

just sing to tell me why part , please .

Tell me why . Oh my .

God , I couldn't . You could have a German Luger to my head and say sing those three words , and I couldn't do it .

I just I want everybody to know , unironically I love the Backstreet Boys . I fucking I love them .

I genuinely .

I purchased and listened to Black and Blue their album that came out after the one with . I went it that way . Yeah A lot I could recite for you . Get another boyfriend Right now . It fucking slaps . I still love that shit .

Can I tell you you could have won so much goddamn money off of me If you were like list a hundred musical acts and if you guess the one that we're about to say about Boss , I would have 100% lost my money .

Really , I fucking , I fucking love them . The one , their song , the One also lost this album . I believe Millennium , it fucking , it's so good .

Listen . If it's good , it's good If you can take yourself out of it . This is the thing We've tried to destigmatize boy bands because there's some good in sync songs , some good Backstreet Boys songs and then they just end up in our family play . So once upon a time it would be like me playing playlists in the car or something .

That's a lot of .

Deborah . It sounds like Deborah , but it's that thing . I can't help but shake my shoulders or whatever when I hear it , so it just kind of helps . What's mean ?

I think , wow , this is so . So a couple of things come up for me . One is and I was just watching the Ted Talk If I can , I'm sure I can find it , I will find it and I will share it in the community .

Yeah , we don't even dig into it any deeper . That's how it is . No , no , no , that's about as deep as it goes .

Right , Well , no , and I like

Oh , 100% . All buddy movies are . It's 100% Like . That is how you feel . Close , I make fun of them .

Oh yeah , I mean you got to make fun of them a little bit , but they are not mocked in the same way . When there was a commercial that I saw once where I thought what I was seeing was a car being dropped out of the plane so like it had a parachute obviously they're not maniacs , but a car being dropped out of the plane Right every evening Exactly .

It's going to be cool .

It's not going to make you go faster , it's not Ford , like being in fourth gear , is not going to make you a bigger rally . But either way , we don't mock those in the same way . It's an air clutch .

No , except for me . I think it's significant generally and I'm glad we've touched on it , but I also think it's significant in the context of this episode .

As a rule , people should listen to whatever the hell they want to , absolutely . The kids always talk about yucking each other's yums . Yes , it's like , just let people like . Whatever the fuck .

I like that phrase . By the way , I was introduced to that phrase , probably by a Gen Z or , and thought like exactly , someday we'll discuss the fact that I'm a fan alone . Yeah , I said it , that man can sing . The fan of who ? A fan alone ? Barry Manilow , that motherfucking can sing . Oh , oh no , no , I love him . He can sing no Barry's classic .

Oh , no , no , no , I am for real he can sing .

Like I'm like say whatever else you want , the music might whatever . Okay .

He does flares nostrils when he sings .

Yes , but still he can sing .

That dude can sing .

The after . He thinks that's like the funny shit ever . She just cannot believe that Orlando Bishop , like I , still like , at least 25 years after , because he knew when we were married . It's still . It still cracks her up that I love Barry Manilow singing .

I all right . So this is , this is your backstreet boys . Yeah , I never would have guessed that .

I absolutely would have guessed that .

Yeah , Absolutely not . Number two I don't want to knock Barry Manilow whatsoever . I just want everybody to know sometimes you get those jokes and you can't , even though years later you're like , well , that's not really funny . One time my father did say like he heard the song and he was like , oh wait , who is this ? Oh , it's barely man enough .

Wow , I don't want anybody to laugh about it . That's got dad joke all over it and also all the things .

I know that it's not funny still , but every once in a while I'm like oh wait , he made that joke like for real . Like he , he dadded it up , he put on his big dad pants and he was like I'm going to tell the daddest joke that ever dad . It's not that good , but it is the first thing that I think about every single time I hear Barry Manilow .

No , that's great , and but generationally it's probably very close to what we've been describing , right , like he had .

no , he would have had no reason to have a beef , absolutely With the back three boys Like where does he fun care at that point .

But when he was , when he was at that stage , yes yes you see what I'm saying .

This is exactly right .

Really interesting , barry .

Manilow Wow yeah , barry Manilow . I don't like it , I don't like it .

No , I don't like it .

We had to talk , I think in season one , about what were appropriate drinks for men to drink . We were talking about that ?

Yep , yep , yeah , 100% blue .

Yeah .

And it's that whole thing . And I remember like . So I grew up with a older brother who was gay but in the closet and so he was really conflicted about the music he would listen to . And so I was like you know how it trickles down through the kids and I was listening to his music and I'm like I still like his .

Oh you two . Yeah , it's a Josh and Tray album . Yep , yeah , I got to know that album and I love that fucking album .

Yeah , yeah , you know one of the things that mentioning that being worried about your sexuality being exposed to music or not liking things that are manly- Right , right Right .

the fuck . It just flew under the rail . I know , I know and .

I think .

I think , Wait , Elton John's gay .

Exactly .

Whoa , whoa what Hold on .

It's so wild and I guess it like .

And there's a bit of it . I'm glad you brought that dynamic up because you know there are all sorts of stories . You know it was a van Joe stories , other stories , and that's fine , and but it's almost like it speaks to what the closet really is sometimes . Yes , it's , don't make me deal with it , it's not actually . Don't be gay , yes , right .

Yeah , we can move on . This is not the point of the episode whatsoever , but the fact that you said it is not about being gay . It's about not making people who want to continue being uncomfortable with other with gay people . They want to not have to deal with it . I have mentioned angels in America before . Jeffrey Wright is in it . He's fucking amazing .

I am a powerful person .

I am a powerful man . I have the president's phone number . Like you , cannot tell me that I am gay . I am a straight man and I have sex with men .

And so , yes , like all that shit , that became a huge . I took a class called I may have already told you all this , but I took a class my freshman year called AIDS in Society . Because , mostly because there's a science requirement at Yale and I was like , if you think I'm walking up science hill , take a fucking chemistry class . You are crazy .

Um , if I want to just say I was suggested I bring some people here , but I don't think it depends on who's norubial .

I get millions of teenagers drinking . One person is a nanny type of person , so it depends on one side this class about men who have sex with men but who are not gay .

Well , no , no , but it's also his line of clerks . Like you , suck one dick . You know you can't yeah yeah , yeah , you suck one dick you suck one dick .

Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , right , right , right , right , right . But it's a really , it's a fact .

Anyway , the whole thing I find fascinating . We shouldn't have to respect other people's sexuality Not mine . We shouldn't , we should .

Wait . But I will say there is me in my astray . Disrespectful and should be , but it's . Everybody should be uncomfortable with me .

I love it , I , god , I love that you said that and I love that . You mean it , I love all of it . Like it's not , like that was a that's not a bit , that's not a bit , that is pure uncut boss , let's do it , I want it that way .

Now I know what song to play next , says Deb Suddenly sassy .

Oh , I guess we could have waited one line and we would have known there was absolutely intentional , okay .

There you go . Yeah , rolls over onto Rebecca's porch . She just roll , she just flops like a , like a perch , onto over the rod iron railing of Rebecca's porch and says , good morning , stinky . And it's so funny because I was not always the biggest fan of sassy and then coming back to watch this I was just like man , I'm like kind of crazy about sassy .

I'm like you were wrong .

Yeah , I was wrong . I don't know what it was about her , but she's sort of throughout the course of the thing she . We talk a lot on Wayne , we talk about justice porn and sort of wish fulfillment . And sassy is the one character where I'm like . I think it's because I was , I was . I've always found her almost too good to be true .

Thank you , thank you .

But like , what ? Like , when Ted is about to fuck up , she's like , oh God , no , like . And she calls herself fucked up and she and she's just like . She's always right on every so . It feels inauthentic to me . She's .

But she's she makes an entrance that I will say , always , dear God , she always makes an entrance . And I one thing I thought about her here and I used to .

Yeah , no , she , I mean she pulls it off . She looks great doing it , like she always does . You know , I wanna see if I can do it . We hear Nora yell , I'm taking my time and being careful , which is so funny and actually pretty clever .

Absolutely . It's funny , Just get detention .

He's like I know it'll never happen , he'll never do it , and so I know , and I'm like these kids . They don't drive as early as we do , they don't date as early as we did , they don't . It's just really interesting .

Oh , oh . She's falling off the wall . She's being . This is the problem with being careful , nora If you're taking your time and being careful , you're gonna fall . You just gotta sprint up there .

There's something to that . There's something to that , yeah .

Yeah , if you . Yeah , she doesn't . She looks before she leaps and ends up , ends up on her back , uh , we have them rush over to the balcony and she's laying on the ground on the on the grass , uh , but she says she's totally fine , everybody laughs and we are out .

You know I'm like , like I .

I'm so enamored of her , of , like , the , just the way she . I'm like I could never get through the world that way , I could never navigate it that way . It's so fascinating . Um , uh , I was reading this one of my favorite books . Um , there's a line in there where they equate kindness to weakness and and I was like , wait what ?

Right and I thought , wow , this is so interesting .

And and why are we talking about this ? Because I have ADHD .

Yeah , number one I like everything that you just said . Number two you're actually wrong . There is no chance that I would murder that family because she fucked up when somebody else knew where her safe house was . You don't go to a safe house with somebody . You have a safe house . If you need to bring them , you can't .

Ah , yeah , no , that's good , that's good , I like that . Oh , the reason I talked about it was because we we're talking about the later scene where sassy sort of is just like unabashedly , brutally honest with someone and I'm like , wow , that's just like , it's just another way to go Like , and that's why what I'm thinking about this character .

It's , it's interesting , you know the , the , the , the mercy and weakness point , because I had the thought , like I have , I didn't know the story you were telling , but I thought the problem is we don't know them to trust them , and so it's interesting . That's what ended up being like , what went wrong in the story or what have you . Um , but yeah , I don't .

This is . This is how the author , that's how his worldview is . His worldview is everybody's a shit , it doesn't matter . Even the best people in the world are narcissists . Even like very , very rarely do you see anyone of any moral turkitude , right , uh , in his , in his novels , which is kind of you know it's , it's , he's a brilliant writer , so it's fine .

Yeah , I mean like I cannot . God bless you . God bless you so hard , the fact that you were like how are you going to teach your kids to know when they're supposed to murder a homeless family ?

There'll be a hell of a . You think I've taught them when to kill a homeless family ? Um , okay , on that note , uh , that's that's gonna , we're gonna slide our chips into the middle of the table today . Um , uh , boss , where do people find you ? If they want to find you ?

Oh boy , um , you could still contact me through Twitter , but I am not there very often , um , but at both Twitter and Blue Sky it is dumbly underscore chambers . You look for me there . Also , I've been on threads . If you're on threads , you could find me . It should just be Emily Chambers . But yeah , I see on threads a little bit .

Great stuff . What about you coach ?

Uh , I want folks who come through . We align that's our online community for , uh , my coaching firm , uh , align Performance , and it's at wealignalignpcom . We're going to be doing a lot of new stuff this year .

Thank you , coach , and thank you everyone for listening , for spending this time with us , for joining us in this exploration of Ted Lasso . Season two , episode 10 , no weddings and a funeral . We will be back next time with part two , please , uh , tip your baristas . Oh no , what do I usually say ? I say support your local library .

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