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Technology and Democracy in the New India

Today’s guest, journalist Rahul Bhatia , has written a book that is part journalistic account, part history, and part memoir titled The New India: The Unmaking of the World's Largest Democracy . Reviewing the book in The Guardian , Salil Tripathi writes that “Bhatia’s remarkable book is an absorbing account of India’s transformation from the world’s largest democracy to something more like the world’s most populous country that regularly holds elections.” Bhatia considers the role of technology,...

Aug 17, 202547 min

A Conversation with Jeff Horwitz on Meta's Flawed Rules for AI Chatbots

On Thursday, Reuters tech reporter Jeff Horwitz , who broke the story of the Facebook Papers back in 2021 when he was at the Wall Street Journal , published two pieces, both detailing new revelations about Meta’s approach to AI chatbots. In a Reuters special report, Horwitz tells the story of a man with a cognitive impairment who died while attempting to travel to meet a chatbot character he believed was real. And in a related article , Horwitz reports on an internal Meta policy document that ap...

Aug 14, 202524 min

Daniel Solove on Privacy, Technology, and the Rule of Law

Daniel J. Solove is the Eugene L. and Barbara A. Bernard Professor of Intellectual Property and Technology Law at the George Washington University Law School. The project of his latest book, On Privacy and Technology , is to synthesize twenty five years of thinking about privacy into a “succinct and accessible” volume and to help the reader understand “the relationship between law, technology, and privacy” in rapidly changing world. Justin Hendrix spoke to him about the book and how recent event...

Aug 10, 202548 min

Through to Thriving: Advocating for Change with Nora Benavidez

Through To Thriving is a a special series of podcast episodes hosted by Tech Policy Press fellow Anika Collier Navaroli . With her guests, Anika is imagining futures beyond our current moment. For this episode, she spoke with Nora Benavidez , senior counsel and director of digital justice and civil rights at the nonprofit Free Press. Anika and Nora discussed the past and present state of platform accountability advocacy, the steps of building a campaign, the possibility of forming a creative age...

Aug 03, 202549 min

Unpacking China's Global AI Governance Plan

On Saturday, July 26, three days after the Trump administration published its AI action plan , China’s foreign ministry released that country’s action plan for global AI governance . As the US pursues “global dominance,” China is communicating a different posture. What should we know about China’s plan , and how does it contrast with the US plan? What's at stake in the competition between the two superpowers? To answer these questions, Justin Hendrix reached out to a close observer of China's te...

Aug 02, 202549 min

Considering Trump’s AI Plan and the Future It Portends

Yesterday, United States President Donald Trump took to the stage at the "Winning the AI Race Summit" to promote the administration's AI Action Plan . Shortly after it was published, Tech Policy Press editor Justin Hendrix sat down with Sarah Myers West , the co-director of the AI Now Institute; Maia Woluchem , the program director of the Trustworthy Infrastructures team at Data and Society; and Ryan Gerety , the director of the Athena Coalition, to discuss the plan and what it portends for the ...

Jul 24, 202554 min

Centering Disability Rights in US Tech Policy 35 Years After ADA

This weekend, the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) turns 35. Signed into law on July 26, 1990, the law provides broad anti-discrimination protections for people with disabilities in the US, and has impacted how people with disabilities interact with various technologies. To discuss how the law has aged and what the fight for equity and inclusion looks like going forward, Tech Policy Press fellow Ariana Aboulafia spoke with three leaders working at the intersection of disability and technolo...

Jul 24, 202546 min

Through to Thriving: Finding Balance and Resilience in the Trust & Safety Field

Tech Policy Press fellow Anika Collier Navaroli is the host of Through to Thriving , a special podcast series where she talks with technology policy practitioners to explore futures beyond our current moment. For this episode, Anika spoke with two experts on Trust & Safety about balance and resilience in a notoriously difficult field. Alice Hunsberger is the head of Trust & Safety at Musubi, a firm that sells AI content moderation solutions. Jerrel Peterson is the director of content pol...

Jul 20, 202555 min

How the EU's Voluntary AI Code is Testing Industry and Regulators Alike

Last week, following months of negotiation and just weeks before the first legal deadlines under the EU AI Act take effect, the European Commission published the final Code of Practice on General-Purpose AI. The Code is voluntary and intended to help companies demonstrate compliance with the AI Act. It sets out detailed expectations around transparency, copyright, and measures to mitigate systemic risks. Signatories will need to publish summaries of training data, avoid unauthorized use of copyr...

Jul 13, 202522 min

How US States Are Shaping AI Policy Amid Federal Debate and Industry Pushback

In the United States, state legislatures are key players in shaping artificial intelligence policy, as lawmakers attempt to navigate a thicket of politics surrounding complex issues ranging from AI safety, deepfakes, and algorithmic discrimination to workplace automation and government use of AI. The decision by the US Senate to exclude a moratorium on the enforcement of state AI laws from the budget reconciliation package passed by Congress and signed by President Donald Trump over the July 4 w...

Jul 13, 202530 min

Protecting Privacy and Dissent in an Age of Authoritarianism and AI

Helen Nissenbaum , a philosopher, is a professor at Cornell Tech and in the Information Science Department at Cornell University. She is director of the Digital Life Initiative at Cornell Tech, which was launched in 2017 to explore societal perspectives surrounding the development and application of digital technology. Her work on contextual privacy, trust, accountability, security, and values in technology design led her to work with collaborators on projects such as TrackMeNot, a tool to mask ...

Jul 06, 202546 min

Considering the Human Rights Impacts of LLM Content Moderation

At Tech Policy Press we’ve been tracking the emerging application of generative AI systems in content moderation. Recently, the European Center for Not-for-Profit Law (ECNL) released a comprehensive report titled Algorithmic Gatekeepers: The Human Rights Impacts of LLM Content Moderation , which looks at the opportunities and challenges of using generative AI in content moderation systems at scale. Justin Hendrix spoke to its primary author, ECNL senior legal manager Marlena Wisniak ....

Jul 06, 202542 min

Interrogating Tech Power and Democratic Crisis

If you’ve been reading Tech Policy Press closely over the last three weeks, you may have come across one or more posts from collaboration with Data & Society called “ Ideologies of Control: A Series on Tech Power and Democratic Crisis .” The articles in the series examine how powerful tech billionaires and authoritarian leaders and thinkers are leveraging AI and digital infrastructure to advance anti-democratic agendas, consolidate control, and reshape society in ways that threaten privacy, ...

Jun 29, 202536 min

Through to Thriving: Honoring Our Elders with Dr. Timnit Gebru

For a special series of episodes dubbed Through to Thriving that will air throughout the year, Tech Policy Press fellow Anika Collier Navaroli is hosting discussions intended to help us imagine possible futures—for tech and tech policy, for democracy, and society—beyond the moment we are in. The third episode in the series features her conversation with Dr. Timnit Gebru , the founder and executive director of the Distributed Artificial Intelligence Research Institute. Last year, Dr. Gebru wrote ...

Jun 22, 202553 min

AI Companions and the Law

Concerns about AI chatbots delivering harmful, even profoundly dangerous advice or instructions to users is growing. There is deep concern over the effects of these interactions on children, and a growing number of stories—and lawsuits—about when things go wrong, particularly for teens. In this conversation, Justin Hendrix is joined by three legal experts who are thinking deeply about how to address questions related to chatbots, and about the need for substantially more research on human-AI int...

Jun 15, 202555 min

Addressing Questions Over Europe's AI Act, Digital Sovereignty, and More

In Europe, the digital regulatory landscape is in flux. Over the past few years, the EU has positioned itself as a global leader in tech regulation, rolling out landmark laws like the AI Act. But now, as the much-anticipated AI Act approaches implementation, the path forward is looking anything but smooth. Reports suggest the European Commission is considering a delay to the AI Act’s rollout due to mounting pressure from industry, difficulties in finalizing technical standards, and geopolitical ...

Jun 15, 202544 min

Through to Thriving: Journeying to Joy with Dr. Desmond Upton Patton

For a special series of episodes dubbed Through to Thriving that will air throughout the year, Tech Policy Press fellow Anika Collier Navaroli is hosting discussions intended to help us imagine possible futures—for tech and tech policy, for democracy, and society—beyond the moment we are in. The second episode in the series features her conversation with Dr. Desmond Upton Patton , who has long studied the intersection of technology and social issues and advised companies developing technologies ...

Jun 08, 202541 min

Technology, Labor Rights, and Political Power in Kenya and Across Africa

In this episode, Justin Hendrix speaks with Nerima Wako-Ojiwa , director of Siasa Place , and Odanga Madung , a tech and society researcher and journalist , about the intersection of technology, labor rights, and political power in Kenya and across Africa. The conversation explores the ongoing struggles of content moderators and AI data annotators, who face exploitative working conditions while performing essential labor for major tech companies; the failure of platforms fail to address harmful ...

Jun 08, 202545 min

Canada's Post-Election Outlook on Tech Policy

Canadian political leaders are in a precarious moment. Fresh off the resignation of former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and ascendancy of his successor, new Prime Minister and Liberal Party leader Mark Carney , the nation faces a brewing trade war with the United States and a deteriorating relationship with its president, Donald Trump . In addition to managing those global tensions, Canadian leaders have a long to-do list on tech policy, including figuring out the nation’s approach to artificia...

Jun 06, 202540 min

Taking on the AI Con

Emily M. Bender and Alex Hanna are the authors of a new book that The Guardian calls “refreshingly sarcastic” and Business Insider calls a “funny and irreverent deconstruction of AI.” They are also occasional contributors to Tech Policy Press. Justin Hendrix spoke to them about their new book, The AI Con: How to Fight Big Tech’s Hype and Create the Future We Want , just out from Harper Collins....

Jun 01, 202537 min

Assessing the Relationship Between Information Ecosystems and Democracy's Woes

Earlier this year, an entity called the Observatory on Information and Democracy released a major report called INFORMATION ECOSYSTEMS AND TROUBLED DEMOCRACY: A Global Synthesis of the State of Knowledge on News Media, AI and Data Governance . The report is the result of a combination of three research assessment panels comprised of over 60 volunteer researchers all coordinated by six rapporteurs and led by a scientific director that together considered over 1,600 sources on topics at the inters...

Jun 01, 202552 min

An Interview with California's New State Chief Technology Innovation Officer

In February, California Governor Gavin Newsom appointed Vera Zakem as California’s State Chief Technology Innovation Officer at the California Department of Technology. Zakem brings deep experience from national security, democracy and human rights, and technology policy. Most recently, under former President Joe Biden, she served as the Chief Digital Democracy and Rights Officer at USAID, where she led global efforts to align emerging technologies with democratic values. Zakem assumes the role ...

May 29, 202528 min

Considering a New 'Civil Rights Approach to AI'

On May 29, the Center for Civil Rights and Technology at The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights released its Innovation Framework , which it calls a “new guiding document for companies that invest in, create, and use artificial intelligence (AI), to ensure that their AI systems protect and promote civil rights and are fair, trusted, and safe for all of us, especially communities historically pushed to the margins.” Justin Hendrix spoke to the Center’s senior policy advisor on Civil ...

May 29, 202523 min

A 10-Year Moratorium on Enforcing State AI Laws?

On Thursday, May 22, the United States House of Representatives narrowly advanced a budget bill that included the "Artificial Intelligence and Information Technology Modernization Initiative," which includes a 10-year moratorium on the enforcement of state AI laws. Tech Policy Press editor Justin Hendrix and associate editor Cristiano Lima-Strong discussed the moratorium, the contours of the debate around it, and its prospects in the Senate....

May 25, 202520 min

Decolonizing the Future: Karen Hao on Resisting the Empire of AI

In his New York Times review of the book, Columbia Law School professor and former White House official Tim Wu calls journalist Karen Hao’s new book, Empire of AI: Dreams and Nightmares in Sam Altman’s OpenAI , “a corrective to tech journalism that rarely leaves Silicon Valley.” Hao has appeared on this podcast before, to help us understand how the business model of social media platforms incentivizes the deterioration of information ecosystems, the series of events around OpenAI CEO Sam Altman’...

May 23, 202545 min

What the History of Internet Governance Tells Us About the Future of Tech Policy

Today’s guest is Milton L. Mueller , a professor at the Georgia Institute of Technology in the School of Public Policy and the head of an advocacy policy analysis group called the Internet Governance Project. Mueller has long walked the halls and sat in the rooms where internet governance is discussed and debated, and has played a role in shaping global Internet policies and institutions. He’s the author of a new book called Declaring Independence in Cyberspace: Internet Self-Governance and the ...

May 18, 202548 min

Between Borders and Lies: Fact-Checkers on Navigating the India-Pakistan Conflict

In the wake of the most intense India-Pakistan escalation in two decades, experts are still trying to make sense of the role that the information war played in the physical one. In this episode, Tech Policy Press Associate Editor Ramsha Jahangir speaks to two experts from India and Pakistan who tirelessly navigated the deluge of rumor and disinformation during the crisis, and who came away with thoughts about the role of social media platforms and the incentives they create, particularly in time...

May 13, 202528 min

Taking Stock of the Google Search Remedies Trial

Last year, a United States federal judge ruled that Google is a monopolist in the market for online search. For the past three weeks, the company and the Justice Department have been in court to hash out what remedies might look like. Tech Policy Press associate editor Cristiano Lima-Strong spoke to two experts who are following the case closely, including Karina Montoya, a senior reporter and analyst for Center for Journalism and Liberty at the Open Markets Institute, and Joseph Coniglio , the ...

May 11, 202534 min

xAI's Memphis Neighbors Push for Facts and Fairness

Last year, Elon Musk's xAI set up its "Colossus" supercomputer in an old Electrolux manufacturing facility in Memphis, Tennessee. Now, the residents of nearby neighborhoods are pushing for facts and fair treatment as the company looks to expand its footprint amid questions about its environmental impact. Justin Hendrix considers the state of play with Dara Kerr , a reporter for The Guardian; Amber Sherman , a Memphis activist; and artifacts from local media reporting over the past year....

May 06, 202526 min

How Venture Capital Warps the World

Catherine Bracy is a civic technologist and community organizer whose work focuses on the intersection of technology and political and economic inequality. Justin Hendrix spoke with her about her new book, World Eaters: How Venture Capital is Cannibalizing the Economy . In it, she suggests how the venture capital industry must be reformed to deliver true innovation that advances society rather than merely outsized returns for an increasingly monolithic set of investors....

May 04, 202535 min
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