Special Operations, Cobert As Espionage, the Team House with your hopes, Jack Murphy and David Bark, Here we are twenty twenty three Year in Review episode. Is this the bullshit throwaway episode at the very end of the year where we're just filling space because we don't want to be here on actual New Year's That's what it definitely yeah, yeah, but however, but if you're joining us for this episode, it's the most important episode of the year, it
kind of I would say. The thing about this is we do a lot of episodes and probably some of them get lost in the mix, and so if you're wondering, or maybe you just found this channel, we can give you a quick overview of who was on the show this year and you can figure out which sound the most interesting to you. That's my pitch. That's the best I got. I'm there with you, there for it. I'm there for it. I mean with my TV ies. I'm lucky that I
remember the episode we did two weeks ago. So fortunately for you all, Jack leads these discussions, well yeah, with three pages of notes because I couldn't remember all this either. So a few channel statistics to start off with, guys, in twenty four, I promise you I'm gonna figure out how to get Jack away ahead. Great. So some this is a YouTube statistics. There's other podcast statistics that actually I didn't even look at. Maybe maybe
you did. D Well, pull them up if you want sometime during the show and we uncover them at the end. So on YouTube, we had eighteen million views, sixty one thousand new subscribers, and we did a total of sixty eight episodes. Our top episode in top live stream was our interview with Gary Harrington and our top short was Mike Edwards. So this was like a good year, man, this is a good year of growth. Like I remember, I think the last last time we did this, we're talking
about the goal was to make one hundred thousand. I think we're at fifty. Yeah. Last year we were like our goals to make one hundred thousand, and we're at like almost one hundred and twenty five right now. Yeah, so we overshot. Good problem to have, yeah, yeah, overachievers, you know, you know how we roll. And so we're looking at spreaker here. D The one annoying part is this is our audio stats. But our audio stats are split because we changed through right. Yeah, so
okay, so it's not giving you a yearly total. It's not going to give us a yearly total. Give us the last ninety days, gotcha. But wow, it just in the last month eighty eight thousand downloads and over a million impressions over the last thirty days. Yeah, not bad, not bad? Is that three million dollars? Yes it is. No, Yeah,
you're getting the baby giraffe. Yeah, finally. And the know any thing about Speaker is you have to go to eat No one can see this because it's like it shows how much money with me, but you have to go to a single show like so you know you hit one specific when it gives you the downloads. I think the biggest downloaded one we have audio wise is Gary Harrington. It's like in the thirty thousands, and what do you think the split is the between YouTube and the podcast, Between the stream and
the podcast. I would say on average it's probably close to uh now, I would say it's probably sixty on average sixty forty video views to listens. But on YouTube we have the opportunity like first show like Gary Harrington's that's got like nine hundred thousand views, a show like that'll probably do like thirty, like I said, thirty thousand listens, which is like double what we normally we get around fifteen thousand listens on average per show. That's awesome. Yeah.
YouTube is the place where, like we have the opportunity for a show to really take off and like gain some grunt like gain some like legs. Is that because of the algorithm they'll throw our should you might also like I think so, I think it's partly that, and I think it's just people who listen to podcasts, they don't really get those kinds of suggestions, right, Like they don't have like an algorithm like that. They might get some
suggestions depending on the platform, but it's not the same. Like YouTube just wants you to continue to watch shows, watch videos no matter what, so they'll try and feed it right. Yeah, But audio wise, I think audio is like you're an audio listener, you consume your podcast via Spotify or ipe Apple podcasts, and the YouTube stuff is a little different. I mean, I'm sure because I watch I listen to pods and I do watch some
pods too, so mixed. Yeah, So I think I would say on average, an average show, a show that does around thirty five thousand views and listens. It'll be about sixty forty views the audio. That's awesome, man. I mean I don't know how you guys feel, but I think this has been like a really good year for the show totally like came into its own and like now we're a mid sized podcast. Yeah totally. We're not Joe Rogan, but we are a mid sized podcast. We're out there.
We're out and about a mid sized podcast with small size sound. Yeah exactly. Yeah, we're still trying to figure out the sound. I think we're there. I think we've gotten there. And I'll take this moment to also just thank all the people who support the channel, especially the people who
support us on Patreon and all the those who do. They get ad free episodes plus some bonus episodes also, and I mean that's what enabled all of this really and this year, like I think we finished everything we ever wanted to do with the studio pretty much. Yeah, now it's time to move a few. Yeah exactly. You know they started. I heard, I heard they were kicking. I was texting Jack last last episode freaking out about it. But I mean, this, this place is this place is awesome
I'm really happy with how it came out. We uh we updated our TriCaster, got a new TriCaster this year, which for those who aren't like super tech guys, it's like it's a computer. Yeah exactly, like like me, uh, that's the computer that is basically the brains of the whole live stream, Like all the audio, all the video goes into that and de produces the show live in the software, the TriCaster new tech software. So yeah, so if you see like you're seeing me not switch through the the
camera angles, that's me doing. So some of you guys start yelling at us, like why don't you just record the ad reads later and then insert them? And it's like it's a live show, and like, oh so you mean all those things that pop up on screen and the intro and the camera cuts, that's all just done live. Yes, yeah, yes it is. That's why sometimes it's fucked up. Yeah yeah, no exactly it is. Yeah, fuck it, we'll do it live. So I love it live. I really do prefer it live. Yeah. No, me
too. I couldn't imagine going back going the other way. I don't know, what do you think, Dave? As far as like other things, like before we get into like a blow by blow episode review, like things that went down in twenty twenty three, happy with ambivalent about yeah, happy and ambivalent. No. No, I mean the studio really came together. And again it's unfortunate because we do have some challenges with our neighbors in this
yeo, there there's no way we could have foreseen. There's just there's just in the future we will ask. We'll ask future landlords if there is a church upstairs, a church upstairs, upstairs services. It was funny to you last week. Uh so I was texting with the neighbors upstairs and she sends me the flyer for their service, and I sent it to Jack, like, check out this flyer. You want to go to the next one because they started at ten o'clock. So, I mean, they do push it
for us. I gotta give them some credit. But like sometimes they do like a sound check or whatever. So like throughout the episode last week with Mark, I was hearing them upstairs, like, oh my god, they're gonna start fucking rocking soon. I think we should all do mushrooms and roll up there one day, Yeah, and just enter the service. Yeah, I mean, it's it sounds like a fun service. It does sound like they're having fun. It sounds yeah, because it is. It is like
an African Christian church. So they are just rocking like you know this Africa music. It sounds so good. But the drums, you know, the speakers, everything is on the floor, so it all just vibrates down through you know. I mean, honestly, we should buy them like rubber pads to put under all their ship or like a new place to do this. This is like one of one of the big cultural differences is like black people have fun at church unlike us. Yeah, we're like repressed fucking church.
Yeah, yeah, white people. I got some luve on Twitter about like the fucking what I was saying during Mark's episode about like the church upstairs, Like I was freaking out about it, and I was like talking about the Greek Orthodox Church, which I can do because I was born and raised Greek Orthodox, because I guess marked a speech for them in Chicago, and I was like saying how they like embezel money and stuff like that, which they fucking do. It's not a it's not a joke. It was hilarious,
and you got you got heat on Twitter somebody like that was funny. Oh yeah, yeah, it was funny. Though these are funny, dude, you they should have a few shows of his own. I can't handle that. I can't handle the pressure. All right, I could do it, so uh develop any for the thoughts will come back. We'll revisit at the end. Jumping into the episodes we started the new year. We started twenty twenty three with episode Pat McNamara. That was That was a good one.
Yeah, that was a really good, great episode. Pat's a great guy. I had never met him before the show. I mean I had heard that he was a great dude, but yeah, really great to do. A great story too. You know, he had the best origin story we've ever heard, I think on the show about how his older brother was kind of a pun Oh that's right. Yeah, Pat like took martial arts, was like in the gym lifting weights and came back and whooped it. Yeah. Yeah. It was like a like a Rocky montage. Yeah yeah,
that's awesome. Yeah. But also, you know, like his post service life and that dip he had, you know, the feeling like divorce and
everything and and you know, and then it's come back from that. I think you know, I really like those types, not those types of stories, but I really appreciate when people who have suffered something like that and come back from and are able to talk about it, because it shows that even for a machine, you know, somebody like Pat mac who you know, you think of it this this next higher level how you know, humanity hits us all. You know, life comes at Yeah, life comes at you.
Yeah. Pat was somebody who people had requested we have on for a long time, and yeah, I don't see. Pat's done quite a few interviews, but I don't remember too many. Were like he really told this whole story like that, you know, it was awesome. I really liked it. The one crazy part I remember specifically was he uh he was doing a static line jump and she got caught. Yeah, like that was fucking gnarly. Yeah, he has a he has a free fall story too that
he told me once. So that was pretty wild. We'll get him and get him to tell that another time. Uh. So episode Ken de Cleva, who was a State Department and CIA psychologist. Uh that was a cool episode too. Was that was a year ago? Yeah? Man, Yeah, that was like a whole interesting perspective of like working in Moscow and who was taking SYSTEMA courses. Yeah, fighting with like g r U guys and stuff fighting like martial arts, you know training. Uh. That was That
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awesome. Man. I remember that one got fucking copyrighted because which is crazy because we didn't even play like the music or the audio from that is, whether it was a History Channel or A and E like the documentary about Lerps that Larry was like that he was in and he was like, we're reacting to and it got copyright striked. Yeah, that was kind of bullshit. But it was a great interview, really good. Larry's a great character too.
And then episode one was Alex Hollings talking about some aerospace stuff. Alex is always fun to talk to. Yeah, he's always like super into it. Alex is killing it too, you know, I mean, honestly, Alex. With Alex's personality, he could be into like pig farming, or geology or or or just like clumber, Like he could talk about different types of lumber and it would be fun because he's excited about it. I want to love something as much as he loves, like aviation. Yeah, in
my life. Yeah, a person thing. Yeah, yeah, I wish this is This is a here's a sidebar. Have you ever seen, uh, this is an RPG thing? Have you ever seen Matt Coleville on on the YouTube's No, I don't think so. He's an RPG designer, has
like a small company. Now. When he starts talking, he's like so excited and so in check him out and he'll go off on these He was talking about like the history of D and D and then went off on a sidebar, the history of synthesizers, and it's like, I know nothing about that. I don't know why you're talking about it, but it's really interesting.
I hope you'll keep going with. Yeah, Matt Coleville remind yeah, he reminds me of Alex Episode one eight Mark Denbow, who was a Gitmo lawyer and uh Mark, yeah, Mark, yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot his name on the I forgot I couldn't recall his name on The
Andy Stump Show. That was an interesting episode. I mean it was for me, it was a challenging episode because you know, Mark was there protecting people and rightfully so I'm you know, there, but he was there to you know, ensure the civil rights or human rights of of you know, people in Gitmo. And I didn't have you know, many fond feelings about the people in Gitmo. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean these public prosecutors and so forth, and public defenders, I mean they're a necessary I don't
want to say necessary evil. I don't think they're evil, but right, you know, somebody has to make sure the government's doing the act right. Absolutely was ish Vie guess uh Op I'm pronounced his name right, He'll come beat me up. Uh was CCT. He had some awesome stories about Afghanistan. That was a really good one. Yeah. One ninety was Jesse Betcher. And Jesse was like that generation of operators that was like in the thick of it, like in the mix of it for years and years. Yeah.
Yeah, Jesse was great. Yeah, he had some awesome stories too. Uh. One n one was Joel Funk MH sixty or no MH forty seven pilot. He was really good. One was a little off beat for Us, Chad Michael Collins voice Actor, Extraordinar voice actor and Call of Duty and uh in the Sniper series, the Sniper franchise, and Sniper Grit is out, that Sniper ten is out and it's coming to Netflix and h this month. Actually so well, we need a carboff a day to do a
Sniper marathon, I think absolutely. And you should react to watching Sniper. It can't be good movie. I know you like it, Jack, but it's gotta be. You gotta like accept it for what it is. That like, it's a it's a fun, campy, kind of over the top. There's jokes in it, and at the end the good guys win and you'll come away from it like with a good feeling. It's not like watching Shindler's List and you walk away like, oh fuck man. It's like it's
like wanted. Right, nobody can bend bullets, you know they can't bend bullets, but that you believe in this world where people can bend bullets, Like it's just fun. I look at it in the same vein as like die Hard, Right, you know I'm not I'm not looking for like total gritty realism, you know from the from a film like that, and Chad said he wanted to do another show and I told him, yes, but
you have to come in studio. Yeah, through New York. He's boys with my friend George, So like I'll tell George to like that, tell tell him to hook us up with the voice actress from Balders gates Gate so that we can also supposed my friend George because he's like all plugged into the Hollywood shit. He said that they're gonna be making Snipers now like every year for the next twenty years. Bro, Chad has fucking hooked it up. Man. Yeah, he's got the gig. And you know, I bet
I know why that is. It's because when they put those films on Netflix whatever, the deal was, like they were like number one, number two on Netflix for like weeks and that's got to be a huge Yeah. No, I think they got like a ton of streaming hours, like it was like another level. That's why they're doing it, only because like it blew
up on Netflix. I have for them. I haven't seen like the ones that you guys were talking about, like now that they have sort of like the team stuff, but it almost sounds like it almost sounds like somebody doing like g I. Joe or Suicide Squad, but doing it short of in their in their own way, for their own reason, Like they're creating this team, this fun team, and they're not beholden to any prop They're not. They're just making a good movie. Yeah, in each one can be
and it is pretty different yeah one another. Which that's a hard thing I think with with genre of films or books, is that you don't want to write the same book or maybe the same movie over and over. On the Return of Tim Winer, Oh yeah, that was a good one. We talked about a lot of different some historical stuff, but mostly I think we got into more contemporary stuff. Oh, Iraq, you remember net centric Warfare with Don Rumsfeld. I remember kept circling back around to that one. Tim's
awesome. I had dinner with Tim like two months ago. I don't think he'll mind me saying this. He's like two thirds of the way through his book. He's writing the sequel to Legacy of Ashburs So when when he's done, when that book is published, we'll have him back on the show to talk about it. For fantastic Oh was Aaron Brown, former ranger and CIA officer. He had some cool stories. Yeah, that was a really good one. I enjoyed. Aaron Yeah, yeah, he's a very smart guy.
He had a good rundown, like the TikTok of what went down with ubl raid and how he like snuck into the room and ship like he wasn't supposed to be in there. Some of those meetings must have been pretty normally. It's gotta be crazy, yeah, they like the tensions gotta be like pretty high. Was Dave Madden Navy seal one of the few that has slipped through the cracks because we're se haters. Yeah, but Dave. Dave was great man. He was awesome mostly his trips. As I recall, he
was doing village stability operations in Afghanistan. Yeah, Dave's a great guy. He's doing good stuff out there. He had a really good description of a first firefight and what it's like for guys who've never been in it, right, and how fucking insane it is. It was pretty pretty not pretty cool. Yeah, man, Dave's a good guy. And he hooked us up
with that cider too. Yeah. Posterity uh episode one nine six was Vivek Jacob, who served in nine para Indian Special Operations Forces, and that was a good episode, like something like again like kind of like offbeat for us because it was about his military career, but then like his post service time and like this sort of spiritualism or spirituality that he got into right kind of
helped him make sense of his life. And we have people commenting all the time like, oh, you need to get more you know this nine PARA officer, this officer, this guy. And then I'm like, I'm open to it if you if you guys want to put us in contact with We're excited to have foreign special ops guys on the show. So yeah, I
mean keep the recommendations coming. One nine was Gary Harrington, who's a Special Forces guy and then a CIA officer, and that that episode was the one that went like pretty viral for us and almost a million views on a full episode, on like a long form episode. Yeah, and I mean he was he was great, I mean great stories and and that's why we invited him to come back again pilot. Yeah. He was fucking awesome. Yeah, that was great. He was awesome. Yeah, episode two hundred,
where do we even begin with that one? Well? How can you? Yeah, I don't even know how you talk about it. I mean, are my least favorite episode. Don't be a hater, b I mean there, if you want to know what it's all about, just go check it out and skip forward, like yeah, every hour to see if you're interested in the content that's going on that hour, because it's like fourteen hours. Yeah. Yeah. And what's interesting is like YouTube, when you're live streaming,
cuts off at twelve hours. That's why it's only twelve hours on YouTube. I have the full one. The full one is up on the audio version. So what you need to do, just I guess for FYI, which we're never going to do it again, I hope to God, is like you have to stop the stream and then restarted again and you can go for another twelve hours. That's that's the rule. That's like the so so now we know how to get to our our famed twenty four hour episodes.
So that's what they did that, like a part of my take in barstool, they did a twenty four hour stream. And that's how I figured it out because they were tweet about it because people were bitching that the stream stopped for like two minutes. Yeah, and they were like we have to stop the stream to redo it because like it stopped after twelve hours. No, we won't do another. Are some super fans though, if like they're bitching at the twelve hour point. I know that. I mean, God bless
barstool. Yeah. PMT is huge podcast. I get like a million a million downloads of episodes. It's also one of those things we're doing a ridiculous stream like that people can like check it out and come out drift away. Yeah, twelve hours later, why are you still here? Yeah? Right? What is wrong with you? People? And the good thing, Dave is when you build all your national security secrets at our fourteen, it's not on YouTube, So you're good. I have no idea what you're talking about.
So yeah, no, we we will be hitting episode three hundred and twenty twenty four, but we're not going to do twelve hours. We'll probably do like a D and D game or something, and I love that for four or five hours, five hours beautiful. Yeah, that episode two oh one was Dustin ward Ranger. Yeah, he had some bowler stories out there, some firefights in Afghanistan. We'd love to have him back sometime. Also, Dustin's Light sleeper. Yes, light Yeah, light sleepers will check that
out. Lightsleeper dot com. Episode two of two was Frank McCloskey. Frank was a sf McFee sag CIA officer. He has some great stories about Central America too. Yeah. Two of three was Kateian Kate from Barstool Sports from zero Block thirty. She was here in studio. She was always fun. Yeah, she was hilarious. She just gotten pregnant too, so she couldn't booze it up because she usually gets boozed up like they do like a live show all the time called the Yak and she's fucked. They always get fucked
up on the shows. It's like one pm two during the week and they u sometimes like they do a case race where like whoever finishes a case of beer first wins and it's like a may it's just mayhem. So she usually gets fucked up. Anybody who anybody who finishes the case of beer loses. Yeah, oh yeah, one hundred. They're fucking mangled, dude. That it's like a disaster. They also get their faces painted, so they're doing it with face paint. That's funny. Two O four Roger Locksheeter, who
is a. He's a crew chief. Fine Hughey's with Magnee SAG. Episode two O five was the four hour Chris Miller epic. That's a great show. It was an awesome show. And Chris of all the way up from the DC area and then drove back that night. Yeah what what a trooper hardcore. Yeah, and we were we were like trying to keep the show short for him and because we knew he had to drive back and he just
powered through. Yeah. Yeah, we gave him the option at about two hours k we could stop here and go yeah, yeah, using the zone h two O six was Gary Noster, who's an FBI negotiator. Mm hm. That was again really unique perspective, really great insight. Yeah. Episode two O seven David Walton served with seventh Special Forces Group and trains young people to get ready to get prepared for the s fas doctor Dave. Yeah, he was great. Yeah. Two eight was our first episode with Dale Hanson.
Uh and we were suffering from some technical issues. So back to the whole like streaming nature of the show, Like, there's some things we can control. One of them is not the other person's internet connection. So we asked Dale to come back which we'll hit up in a minute. Don Bentley two nine is author a Panty Pilot after Red Wings happened. And then speaking of Red Wings, Ed Derek was a journalist him with the book he was
Episode to ten. Two eleven was Nelson Miller Seal Team six. He was a chief master chief, right he wasn't an officer, no no, no, no, yea master chief. Yeah. Yeah. Nelson Miller was awesome. Yeah, it was great. He had a lot of seals this year. To twelve is Ward Carol. Ward has his own podcast. Uh is it called the like the Ward Carrol Channel. I think it is. I think it's just called War Carroll. Yeah, and he does he does aviation stuff, so go check word out. He also hit I think he just
hit five hundred thousand subscribers. Damn. Yeah, he's doing good. Yeah, good for him. Man. I like briefly worked for Ward, like way back when, and it's cool to see. I mean both of us have kind of like gone off and done other things, and well now we're both on YouTube, so we're not really doing other things. We're doing the same thing. Two thirteen was Michelle Taylor FBI agent and now she's with is a trench coat, trench code advisors. Yeah, French code advisor with Holden
triplet holding. Yeah. Michelle was really cool. She was awesome and she was an intelligence officer and first yeah uh and then no relation. But episode two fourteen was Mike Taylor. So Mike was a Special Forces veteran. He uh became world renowned when he allegedly smuggled Carlos going out of well, I don't think we have to say allegedly anymore. He said he did, and Japan threw him in jail for it. So I think I think we're okay with Yeah, I think the cats out of the back. Yeah, he's
okay if he smuggles out Carlos going again. Yeah uh. And that was a really interesting episode for you know, one because of his stories, but to you know, learning about our own justice system that, to everybody's surprise, I'm sure doesn't even follow its own rules sometimes because they sent him, they extradited him to a country that did not meet US standards for imprisonment, and they're not supposed to do that. I don't know if there's I mean
there, if there isn't a law, there should be a law. But we have an extradition treaty with Japan. But that's the problem. And just this week they released that it was a naval officer who's being held. He was in prison in Japan and this guy he went hypoxic at the wheel and tragically killed two people and they put him in prison for three years, and the Biden administration, I guess requested put pressure. I don't know what the backroom dealing is. Yeah, but they just released him this week. Yeah,
sent them home. Now. It's interesting. It's with with Mike Taylor. It's very interesting because allegedly, you know, like what he said is that he technically didn't even break any laws in Japan is they were butt her and so we went to jail for he embarrassed, he went, Yeah, it's a it's a shame. Imagine living in a country where you can go to jail because the country feels but her. They can arrest you over and over and over again, and they can hold you like indefinitely basically without charging
the crime. They can give a subject to to sleep deprivation, pull you out of your cell day and night to be interrogated by prosecutors. Yeah, like, yeah, it doesn't meet like an American standard for sure, and that was always my problem with his extradition. Two fifteen Andy Milburn here in studio. Good old Andy. We love Andy. Probably what is third or fourth appearance on the show. Yeah, this one might have been his third, all right. I hope we can get Andy back one of these days
when it's come through. He's great. I think we'll be able to get it back. Yeah. To sixteen Justin Sapp and Toby Hornden. So Justin was the first Green Beret in Afghanistan with Team Alpha, the CIA's Team Alpha, and Toby Hornden wrote the book which is called First First Casualty, Thank You, and so we had them both here in studio. Both great guys. We've had both of them on previously. So if you haven't read First Casualty, you know, I definitely suggest picking it up. To seventeen was
Philippe Peters RRC, the Regimental Reconnaissance Company. And Philippe he's another like fascinating, interesting guy, like his whole life story of he was a Mennonite, right yeah, and born in Mexico, not speaking Spanish, speaking their language there, it's like a I guess it's a derivative of Dutch. I didn't even know that, that's fucking yeah on the show. Yeah, I forgot that. Yeah, I know he's a menya night. I don't know.
That was like one of their party tricks. Yeah. And uh and then he you know, of course, immigrated to the United States and joined the Ranger Regiment and had a wild and interesting career. Yeah. And yeah it's a cool dude, Yeah, super cool. Uh. And then there were a couple here I missed. This was when I was on vacation in Iceland. So you guys tell me to eighteen with Steve Forty, which, yeah,
thing is the most views. Yeah, like I take off and the ones that you're you guys, go and you're doing, just find it out. Besides that Gary Harrington and I'll give you that one, yeah, because I wasn't here for that. Oh that's right. Yeah. Yeah, Steve was fantastic. It was a nice guy. Yeah, special Force. But then also you know, talked about talked about resilience, talked a lot about resilience and you know, strategies for postumatic stress, strategies for maintaining resilience soldiers.
Fantastic, like, great episode. And he's a Chief Wellness Officer of this hospital for special surgery. Good for him. Yeah, that's great. Uh. Nineteen was Mark palam Moreopolos and the guest guest host was Andy Milburn for these Yeah that's right. Yeah, he was staying in my voice. Yeah, uh, Mark, who I just want you to know that. Oh yeah, he's got a beef with you. He's got a beef with you. He's like, why is Jack avoiding me? Yeah? Two episodes
in a row and you haven't been on the show. It's it's the other way around. It's like I can't come on the show. So I tell you, guys, it's on you. You figure out what you want to do for the show, and you're like, oh, I don't know what to do. I'm just gonna call Mark. Yeah. Mark's always welcome. Don't get me wrong, I'm not I'm not trying to skip out and Mark, No, you that's not how we're booth three months out. You're not like we're not on those ones. This last one with Mark, we booked
him like three weeks ago because somebody dropped out. Yeah, but I think this one during the summer, I was not here. I was on vacation. You weren't. Yeah, but you didn't just go. I think we have figure it out. We call Mark because you like, he was already scheduled. I had my vacation scheduled like six months in advance. No, no, I think we had Mark's schedule for like at least a couple of months in advance. Steve Forty was a guy who popped in for us,
because right, Steve was the last minute focus somebody. But Steve was somebody who was on our He was on our radar because of the book. Well, I was talking to Steve about maybe booking him. I think at that point we needed a book for like September October, so I was looking to book him. Then the big table, big coffee book. Oh yeah, it's that one. Yes, twenty years war. Well, yeah, that's Blakely. Yeah, we'll get to him in a minute. But yeah, no, I don't care about Mark, but I am. I am.
You don't care about Mark, markiners, you don't care about I am sorry that I am sorry. I missed out on episode two twenty though, when we flew Dale Hanson down from Alaska. Yeah, that was good. I am sorry I missed that one. Well, how to go? I feel bad for Steven Mark now because Jack doesn't feel bad about missing them. No, I feel bad that I miss Steve, I said, I don't care
about missing Mark. I mean we got we grabbed lunch with Mark too, like a month ago, two months ago, we did the Greek Restaurant. No. Dale was fantastic. It was a great show. I'm trying to remember. Uh do you remember some of the highlights of that. I mean it's long, it's like three hours and twenty minutes. So he goes through a lot of his ship like it's pretty crazy, Like you know, he talks about how he lost his fingers and stuff like that. I did read
his book pretty his memoir is Born twice. Okay, that's right, Born twice. Yep. Yeah, ye, And I'm glad like that. Like the McFee sag Ones do pretty good numbers wise, like that one has over four hundred and thirty thousand views. Oh and speaking of which, I'll give him a shout out on here. Bud Gibson runs a podcast. I think it's called the Recon Podcast or something like that. I think so. And he's a young young guy and he's like super into you know, the same
thing we do. Really trying to like interview these mac v Sad guys and get their stories and get their history, and he's done an incredible job. And in order for you know, that legacy to continue to live, it's really important that like younger people younger than me and you you know, for sure kind of like get passionate about it. Yeah, you know. So I'll be doing Bud's podcasts next month. I don't know what he wants to talk about with me. I was not quite that old to be mac VI
Sad. But maybe he thinks you are could be. It could be the great I mean, you're a boomer, could be. But no, go check his podcast out. He's doing really good stuff. I two twenty one
Mark Graney, we had him in studio. You know, ironically, I had been like trying to get Mark for years and Mark was like more elusive than like these super spooky CIA people that I'm trying to like, you know, find them, and then I finally get a hold of them, and it takes me like time to convince them to like maybe this is going to be a cool thing. Mark was so hard to get it to nail down. And I had like friends of Mark, I had like other authors.
I'm like, oh, you're at this writer's convention, go to Mark Raney and tell him that Jack Murphy's tired of you avoiding him or something like this, and eventually we made it happen. And I only say this out of love because I'm I'm a big fan of Mark Rainey's work. He writes the gray Man series. I think he called him out on Twitter too, did I probably did numerous times, And you know, I again, I only I only do it because I because I love Mark, and I think,
now, is he the one who you like? Who you like? Good idea of ftter or like sent the well actually email to yeah on the on the SR twenty five. Yeah, it wasn't a It wasn't a will. Actually it was like as like market so he was a Galley copy so it's before publication. I was like, great, book mark, one thing you might want to fix. He said. The SR was five five six or seven six to two, and he's he's holding on to that, he's hold
onto it. Oh yeah, yeah he should, okay. Episode two twenty two was Frank the Elisio UH former DA agent was under infiltrating over the satanic drug dealing motorcycle games fantastic neo Nazi motorcycle gangs, like holy shit. Yeah, people got a little upset about that one. People were always a little upset. May Good I thought. I thought Frank was great, and we're gonna have franken studio in twenty twenty four, and I believe he's bringing one
of his DA friends with him. Now I'm sorry, not d A ATF JTF. I'm sorry if I said yea earlier, I think you did. But it was ATS ATF agent, yeah, which it was, which was really interesting because I knew the DEA did a lot of deep cover stuff like that, but obviously almost all you hear from ATF is sort of the bullshit. Yeah, and to hear about them infiltrating these gangs and really doing this deep cover stuff, and I mean hanging it all out there, really,
you know, hanging it all out there some lunatics. Yeah, it was fascinating. Episode two twenty three, that was the Andy Stump episode. And he was great. He's great, guess he's and he's just a lot of fun. He's fun to have on. He's you know, uh, I like him as he has a pretty dry wit, but he's pretty you know he's really quick, but yeah, it was. It was a great episode.
Uh and then you know, this is jumping around in time. But you and I flew out the Montana and we did the Andy Stump podcast out there in uh Callespie Yeah, callispell calis spell uh and uh yeah, So you guys can go check that out if you want. Dave and I are. That was a lot of fun too. It was just kind of sitting around shooting the ship. Two twenty four was the h to complete the Worp trifecta. Gary Lenderer. Yeah. So yeah, Ken Miller, Larry Chambers,
Gary Linderer. They wrote a series of books. I think it was Phantom Warriors about the Lurps, about their platoon, and so Gary Linderer was the last of the three, and I mean he was great. He was Silver Star recipient in some huge firefights in Vietnam. Episode two twenty five was is Berry. She's the novelist. She wrote The Peacock and the Sparrow, but she was also a CIA case officer and that was like one of my favorite novels of twenty twenty three, The Peacock and the Sparrow. I hope
you guys will check out the episode. Go check out her book too. It was a really good read. Twenty six was Gary Harrington on for a second time. We had him here in studio and I was fortunate enough to be here that time out. Yeah, that was fun. The best stories were after the after he wrapped. Yes, that's true. Spilt some tea, some amazing tea that can never get out there. But oh this secrets we know that. Uh. Episode two twenty seven, I want to say,
this isn't this is when I missed Nate Karachia. Is that the I think it's Karnakia. Karnakia remind me of Nate again that it was a special for hold on. I'm sorry again, Like I said TBI is oh yeah Nate, Okay, no go back? Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah No, Nate was awesome. Yeah, I'm sorry I missed him. So go check
out episode two twenty seven. Uh. And then to twenty eight was Aaron hale e O d uh technician who got really really badly injured in Afghanistan, totally blind and now death too right because he and my infection led to him losing his hearing right and then he had didn't he had the implants and stuff yeah, yeah, so you can hear a little bit. Yeah. Incredible guy. Yeah, fascinating and still super I mean, such a testament to like the human spirit. I mean, my back hurts and I won't get
out of bed for three days, you know. And you know, and here is a guy who's blind and partially mostly death and is like climbing living life. He does a podcast. I went on his podcast was fun. Oh you went on his podcast? Yeah, that was a clip that I told John R. Jack laughed at the clip for me talking shit about like what I was going to do with my life. What's his podcast called Point of Impact? Cool? Yeah, go check it out. Yeah, Aaron
was really cool. Man nine Ranger Hall of Fame inductee Tommy Shook. Uh, Tommy was he was in Vietnam and then he was with the Rangers. Uh, he bounced there. It was interesting that he uh, back in the early days before like a lot of these things were formalized. Like Tommy's one of these interesting guys who his career, he was able to jump between Ranger Battalion and Special Forces and do a little bit of both. And he
was on the green light teams also at one point. Yeah. Episode two thirty we had Aaron Schwartz Baumb here in studio for an update on Ukraine. Aaron is a Russia expert. Uh. That was a really good episode, needed after you know, the previous episode. It was a year prior, a lot had happened between. It was just after Pregosion got smoked. Yeah yeah, yeah. Uh. Two thirty one was a former HRT sniper,
Chris Whitcombe had him here in studio. Man, that was another one of those like mega four hour wild rid So yeah, four hours and twenty minutes. Yeah, yikes, and we could have got another four hours, like yeah. Episode two thirty two was Hudson Sullivan, who was a you know, American foreign fighter in Ukraine. And actually we're going to see him at our Christmas party this Friday. He's coming down. Uh. Two thirty three was Dan Blakely Army ranger. You want to grab his book there real quick,
Dave. Yeah, some great ranger stories. And he also put together this great like photo montage, photo and essay book. Really yeah, it's basically a great coffee table book, but it's it's you know, it's vignettes basically maybe two pages or three pages where it just talks about you know veterans, you know, combat or wartime veterans and what they're doing today, like how their lives have transition things like that. And it's also Steve Is in
this book. Oh cool. Yeah, it's a it's a fantastic book where it just has you know, incredible photography, you know, these portraits and then just their personal stories about what they did after the war. You know, what what what life looks like after that. Cool. That's really cool. Two thirty four. David McCloskey, he's former CIA analyst, the author of his latest book is Moscow. X had him on the show. We actually talked a lot about his time working Syria when the Civil War was happening.
Honestly, that was like the best part of the I was expecting, like, oh, we're going to talk about the book the whole time, even though the book is awesome, Yeah, but I love the Siria talk. Yeah. His insights into that conflict was like it was very helpful for me to help understand, you know, what was going like, especially like what the American intelligence community was like thinking what they're looking at at that time, what to revisit that at some point and I'm sure we'll have David on
again. You know, he's still writing actually his Yeah, I think I think he announced his third book. Yeah, it's someone he was talking about where there's a mole on the seventh floor. Yeah, yeah, which sounds pretty cool. That sounds like it'll be an interesting One episode was the Brent Tucker episode. Brent was his background. He started off in a Special Forces National Guard and then he was a Delta operator. Also spent a lot of
time in Syria and Afghanistan. And uh, Brett came to prominence through his calling out of Robin on his podcast, The Anti Hero Podcast. Yeah, that was that was a great episode. Ben's cool. He seems like a super down to earth guy. Yeah, no, I really liked him. Two thirty six was doc Osgoode, author of is a book Hawk Recon. Yeah, it's right behind you, Hawk Recon again, another Vietnam memoir. Doc'saman dude. Yeah, just uh he gave us a chance to plug our
patreons on the show. Is perfect, No, he did. It's it's interesting too because uh, you know, we're we're going back to a time where the Special Operations as a concept, you know, special Forces, it was special operations. But it was it was a you know, it had a specific function. But and we talked about Macvie SAgs. But there are units in one hundred and first and the units there, units that are creating
these specialty teams, uh, that are doing special operations. And you know, so we would think today, you know, going out there and hanging it all on the line that you know, we tend to forget about. Uh, this is another one. I'm sorry I missed. Robin Horsfall s a s Yeah. Now that that was a fantastic episode. And it's so rare to get somebody from the SAS to the SBS on And yeah, Robin was just like a peach of a dude. I spoke to him on the
phone a few times. He seems like a super like, articulate, smart guy. Yeah, and we started late, We started at seven and he's in the UK and he hung he hung in for over two hours. Yeah. Wow, Yeah, I'm I'm sorry I missed that one. He sounded like such a nice guy when I talk really was it was a fantastic episode. Eight was Pasha Monroe, SBS operator. Yeah, and he was he was great too. And again another like perspective. We hadn't had an SBS
guy on the show. Pasha was so much fun. Yeah, Like he's just a dude who just has He's just like a dude, Like he's like a bloke, you know, he's like, he's like a dude you just want to sit and drink and hang out with. And Yeah, he's a great dude. Another guy who had like a very like human story. Yeah, you know, very human origin story and and really you know, through I guess just through sher determination. Yeah, really turned himself into something.
It really really impressive. Yeah, great story. No. Episode two thirty nine was Daniel Devine who was a crew chief with one sixtieth and man, that guy had some really insightful stories too. The ones that stand out for me actually are the Philippines. Yeah, because there's some stuff that I had heard from like a different perspective, and then hearing kind of like an insider from the one side, I'm like, oh, that's how that happened. Yeah, Yeah, he was great. Uh to forty we had Mike Edwards
in studio. That was probably the third time we've had Mike on the show. Yep, yeah, third two, but the first two we're remote, we're remote. Second one was with his wife, right, and then this time he is in studio, and it was just he's just such a great person, like he's he's so fun to hang out with. Yeah, Mike's solid. Yeah, always been a solid guy. Yeah. And yeah he's he's a good dude. And you know, hope we we didn't even have him back again sometimes two forty one, I think I think you may have
missed this one. Actually this was ya ya FANUSI yeah, because Jason Lyons guest hosted on that one with right wedding, Oh right, yeah, not mine? Hey, uh yah yah was a oh my gosh, I want to say he was actually an economics analyst yah ya ya, and then he spent time at NCTC. He was really good, really smart guy, really
smart. Yeah, really good story. And you know, I don't know if anyone is keeping track or even cares, but like what we're trying to do here is like establish a little sell of people who can like coming guest host on the show when like either I can't make it or Dave can't make it, or something goes really wrong, neither of us can make it. So like people like Andy Milburgh Jason Lyons maybe like one or two other alternates. We'd like to have ye who can come in again. And one of
the reasons for that it's not that neither. I mean, Jack is a far better interviewer than I am, but I can, like, I can get through it on my own. I did three episodes that are like the best sellers for the years. Well, but what I'm saying though, is one of the reasons we like to have these guest host is one it mixes
it up a little bit too. Yeah. Yeah. And as a as a live podcast, the Goat that can go to two to three hours, it's really great to have a second perspective of somebody else bring in the question. Definitely, you know, because I will obviously just talk about the color of their socks. Fascinated by that. Uh Brad Thomas, Yeah, Brad came in. He was a an operator who's a ranger. He was an RRD guy and it's the name of his band, uh, Silence and Light.
Yeah, so go check them out. It was great having him. It was fantastic. He was so good. We're still eating the Halloween candy he brought. Were almost done with it. Even though he pawned some of those whoppers off on us, Like, don't think I don't know what you were doing there, Brad, But I enjoyed the way you don't like whoppers. No, I think we need to discuss this. I don't know if
I love them either. Okay, all right, I know there's a problem here because you guys both order turkey sandwiches when there's other meat in the dels. Go get the whoppers off the I want to stare at them to have issues. Right, We're not gonna leave until you eat the whole past. I just want to know there is beef in this studio right now, turkey and non whoppers. There are problems. I can't believe you eat whoppers,
man. Whoppers are amazing, man, especially when you go ahead days, especially when you get the deformed ones that they didn't quite like they have a density. There's a problem with you, guys. So look, don't get mad at us. Look at the camera. Thank Brad for the whopper. Brad, thank you for the whoppers, And I apologize for these jimokes. I apologize to. Forty three was Pete Blaber. Pete just wrote his third volume of Common Sense Leadership, and that book, The new one is a
lot about the Pat Tillman ambush. So we had him on talking about his career in his book. And actually I would like to have Pete on again because we we kind of cut him off at like, he didn't even get to the g WoT Yeah, exactly, because I didn't want to. I want to make sure we talked about his new book. Pete was such a for me personally. Pete was such an interesting like loop because I believe did
he say it was the S three or Pete was an officer. He had already been an officer at you know, at the unit, and then when I was a new ranger, he was an officer in battalion at battalion, and people would talk about him in hushed whispers, you know, in the chow hall. Oh he's been been behind the fence. And so it was such kind of a and he didn't know who I was because I was some
you know, nothing four at the time. But it was such a cool sort of loop to close in on right, to hear the whole rest of the story, beyond the whole restory, beyond the about this person who was this sort of mythical being when I was in range of battalion. He seemed like a good guy, pretty down at earth dude. Yeah. Uh. Two forty four was John Dovey, who served in the South African Defense Forces
and then the South African National Defense Forces SANDIFF. So when the when the government changed over there, spent like thirty five years in the South African military.
Yeah, I mean those were like incredible insights. Yeah, from somebody who spent the long time there, from like the external stuff in the in the border war in Angola and then the internal and the village unrest of It's such an education and a time that you know, yeah, like I remember, you know, the whole don't place on city, like the whole sort of you know of one aspect of what was going on in that well and not just South Africa, but you know, in that region. But so
much of it is buried and lost to history. Without these guys, I think, yeah, no, absolutely, or it doesn't get talked about, right, you know, right, Yeah, I'm glad we could have him on. Yeah. Absolutely. We had Greg Kocher on the show for a second time. Yeah, with his nine Yeah, mostly talking about his knife for cow. I mean that guy, first off, his story is amazing. Yeah. Secondly, his knives are gorgeous. And Blades for Brothers.
Yeah, Blades for Brothers his organization to you know, help veterans and first responders like develop new hobbies, new craft that it has actually helped him in a measurable way through cognitive tests and whatnot. Yeah, Blades for Brothers. Definitely worth supporting it. And also go check out his knives. I mean, his knives are beautiful. Those of you who are like affectionados who are really into that stuff, I mean, you're gonna love what he what he
does. Uh. Was William Yeski. We have his book That Damned the Valley was the name of his book. He was in eighty second Infantrymen. Yeah, a lot of Afghanistan stories had him in studio. He was awesome, Yeah, fantastic, Yeah, he was great. Forty seven was Zach Dorfman, the KGB spies infiltrating Silicon Valley, which, unfortunately, even though Dan and I were here for them and Jack wasn't, we couldn't be a part of it because we had a hot mic in the studio that we could
not yeah, taking figure it out. It was gonna sound horrible if we plugged in the studio audio, so we did. It was just a zoom to zoom interview. Yeah, thankfully, Yeah, thank god Jack. So he and I just sat in the studio giving each other massages. Yeah, well Jack talked to d or Love. Jack talked to that. Uh yeah, go check out his podcast about it. It's like a limited series.
It's like six episodes about you know, somebody who committed acts of treason and stealing industrial secrets from Silicon Valley. Episode two forty eight and episode two forty nine was with Mike Vickers, author of By All Means Available as his memoir Legend. Yeah, I mean tenth Special Forces Group CIA paramilitary officer then went on to be the Assistant Secretary for Special Operations of the Intensity Conflict and the
Undersecretary for Defense Intelligence. Yeah. And I'm really glad, And I mean he was very gracious with his time. Yeah. Two episodes and in two weeks with us. They were great. So please go check those out. Two fifty I missed it, Mark, Sorry Mark, what happened? But you're not sorry because you said you don't miss Mark. I was just like being pulling. Yeah, No, it's fantastic. You know, Mark worked
the you know, sort of Israeli guy's Israeli Hama's desk or either. That was one of the issue issues that he dealt with and during his time at the CIA, So he was very, very familiar with the region, with the politics, with the issues I mean, and you know, obviously you can see through the comments if you guys look sort of like Milburn's comments, there are a lot of people with a lot of opinions. But I feel like Mark is a very you know, he's a very bald, lunched person.
You know, he called out the problems when that in Yahoo. But also nothing of that deals, you know, matters with the Hamas attack, and so we talked about that. He caught us up on what's going on with Ukraine and Russian some of the challenges going on with the funding there, and also not just the funding, but what that funding has equated to what it's amounted to. Yeah, and he's health wise, he's doing better if you guys are are keeping up with his uh havana syndrome stuff. But yeah,
it's fantastic. And then this Friday, we're not going to have an episode. We're having our company Christmas party, but we might go Live for like fifteen minutes or something. Yeah, we might do something a little bit in the show. Wait are we not? Wait? I thought we were doing I thought we were doing Melissa's episode that's next week after that after this. Oh yeah, well we said happy, we said Merry Christmas because I thought it was a Christmas episode. I think it's the day between Christmas and
New Year's it's right episode. Oh yeah, the Christmas tree is still up. It's okay. Yeah. Well anyway, uh, if you're actually watching this episode and you've made it this far, make sure you watch Melissa's episode that's gonna it's gonna be two fifty one. Melissa Nahetta. She is a badassd awesome episode. It was great. Yeah, you guys are gonna love her. Yeah. Yeah, And that brings us up to this episode. The twenty twenty three Year in Review. What it's awesome, man, I
mean it's like three pages and names here. Man, it made it a lot. Yeah, it was a good year. It was a really good year. So in twenty twenty four, I mean we're scheduled into March. I'm trying to finalize the second half of March right now. Actually, with some really exciting people. But the people we have locked in right now. We got a MARSK dude, some Special Forces guys. We have a soft weather guy, combat weathermen. We got several ci A former CIA officers.
As I mentioned, Frank del Nicio will be here in studio. We have pad O'donnald coming up. That's in June. That's you're right, you're right, But that's a way. Oh, that's that's a way. I thought it was in February. No, No, that book needs to come out. Yeah, we do have him booked, but that's gonna I thought it was in February. That's gonna be a ways out. We have some rangers,
another one sixtieth pilot, another macbe sag guy. There are a couple other werps that I need to reach out to and schedule who are also talented authors. Excited. I want to get that locked in for twenty twenty four. And then we went out to dinner last week and talked about, like, you know, the dream guests, like the people we want to have on and I don't know if I want to like start throwing names out there of people who we haven't even spoken to yet, but high hopes. Yeah,
set in the bar high Uh and uh. I thought that because we talked about that on Andy Stumps show too, about dream guests, and I thought his dream, his dream guest was W was a very good, you know, very interesting from the idea of what did you think about all this? Like what did you actually know what was he until you were getting in It would be absolutely fascinating to like, ye sit down with W. We're talking about President Bush and uh, like I've never heard him sit down and
do like a retrospective. Yeah, you know, just like, yeah, this is kind of how it happened. This is what happened, and then this and that, And I don't think did did did George Bush write a memoir or anything? Yeah? I think he did. They usually do as a president. Ever, Actually he sat down and talked about what went wrong or what decision what I think what I don't want to say bad decisions, because obviously a president makes decisions on the information they get. So yeah,
he came out with the memoir It's called Decision Points. Interesting. You know, I think the former presidents sometimes are very reticent to speak publicly about this stuff, including national security stuff. Yeah, partly as like some sort of like the quorum, Like they don't want to fuck with the current administration, right, guys, like if you're out there kind of like talking smacks or not talking smack, but it could like kind of undermine what they're trying to
do. Yeah, So I think it's like a matter of like not policy, but like the quorum that they normally don't go out and do that so much. It's also kind of rightly or wrongly, it might be shitting on the people who feed them their information because the president is not the one out there collecting, but you're the guy who analyzed it, right, Yeah, And at the end of the day, all you can trust is the information
you get. But I mean, now we're talking, you know, twenty plus years after the fact, that, right, it would be a good time for a historical retrospective on that. I agree, you know, that's that's very like just neutral, and you know, we don't need to the emotion has subsided at least a little bit. Yeah, there's still a lot of anger out there. But and I'm curious if we hadn't have gotten involved in Iraq, if Afghanistan would have gone any differently. That's a great question.
That's a great question. I mean, nobody will ever know, right, Like it's all it's all subjective now, it's all you know, conjecture or whatever. But it's interesting to think if we hadn't have been waging this two front, where would Afghanistan have been different? Maybe maybe not. Yeah, it's interesting. That'd be a great question as yeah. Yeah. Otherwise,
what's coming in twenty twenty four? We're still batting around the idea of doing a new intro new merch is something I need to get off my ass on. I didn't work on that. We all sit on their asses at some point, I know, I do what else? What else do you guys want to do in twenty twenty four? Maybe a new podcast different, a little bit different. Maybe we'll see. We've been batting that around talking
about it. I mean it would be and listen, we're just like spit bawling here, Like we haven't even like formalized or really like come up with any idea we're attached to. But like one idea is to like find somebody else, I mean maybe one of the people guest host for us to come in and do their own show like Midweek and they would bring in their own guests, or have their own type of content in the national security. Sure. Yeah, D and I have talked about doing movie stuff just because D
is brilliant movies and I'm and I watch a ton of them. I watch a ton too. I'm not that good. I made one movie. You did one movie these movies called Jimbo. Where can people find that? You find it on YouTube? On YouTube? Just there. Yeah, I might put it back on Amazon Prime. But it's a great like, it's a great indie heist film, it's a crime film ideal that I'd love to revisit.
The gaming idea at some point, we just need to be, you know, we just need to be We need to be I think smart in how we do it to find committed people and and and not just people who are committed in the idea that they'll be here when they said they're going to be here, but also committed in the sense that they'll read the real books like they like. They need that they engaged with it, that they that
they want to be it. I h I really missed gaming. I had two campaigns going every the same time, and and now they're they're kind of concluded or wound down. And uh, I would love to get back into it. Yeah, I remember, was it Did I make a deal or that they get taken over? Remember when I played the Warlock that almost fucked everybody up? Yeah yeah yeah, one of my online uh campaign on Fantasy Grounds, and you played in the first, very first one I think in
your character got killed. Yeah, and then I brought you back like fifty games later, your resurrected form came back. A witch had resurrected you. Yeah. Yeah, you were just like taxing that ass. Yeah, beating up the other player characters. I actually didn't kill them all intense like I was like, I was like, I don't want to. I don't want to do it like a full party, like a full party wipe here. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think the players realized until later when
I told them like that you were their lives were in your hands. Yeah. Like as a DM, I was just like, if you killed them, you were killing them. That's just how it was going to be. Yeah. Yeah, no, I remember that. That was one of the funnest parts of that campaign. Actually, but yeah, I know I would I would love to, Like, if we can work out something like that works, I have to do it. Yeah, well we'll do we'll do a game for episode three hundred, a little trial run, see how it
goes. And I don't know who the other player are going to be. H, we got to work on that one. I'm down to be a player. I never played D and D Okay, I think they would be a great player. I mean, Lina's down, are you know our former guest and you know she's been she bet she'd be down for it. Yeah yeah, Lona's fun. Yeah, it'd be a good time. So that's twenty twenty three. I was going to say in a nutshell, but we've probably gone for like a yeah. Yeah, it's a big ass nut Yeah.
But thank you everyone who like joined us in twenty twenty three. Everyone watched the show, you know, shared these episodes. So we got eighteen million views this year on YouTube. Yeah, wow, that's a lot. Yeah, it's looking at the stats, it's pretty good. Eighteen point four million views. Hello. Yeah, and thank you for supporting the channel,
keeping us going, like the team house is a thing now. Thanks for saying to us and airports when you recognize it and walk them through like I get off on the fame, all the you know, all of you guys that are you know, giving me the flash all of it and uh yeah, and people who you know have sent us guest suggestions. Yeah, like, hey, I know this dude, you got to talk to him and and sometimes it doesn't pan out for various reasons, but sometimes the results are
awesome. Yeah, you never know, so keep them coming, you know, especially I don't I'd love to feature like more women on the show. Uh so, like if you know women in the intelligence community and uh, special operations searching, I don't get that you're in relate you're in a happy relationship and I'm in a happier I'd like that. I'd like to have more
happy team house podcast relationships with expand our reach a little bit. Uh. There's there's this running joke about this place being a man cave with testosterone level. I mean it is, and there is a lot of test ustering. But look, I mean the women we have on have a lot of test like they're they're badass women. You know, it doesn't matter if they're an analyst or an operator or an intelligence software or whatever else. Like, they're
badass. So so that's it, guys. I'm looking forward to twenty twenty four. Hope you are, hope to see you here on the show. And that's it. Final thoughts, guys. I'm excited for twenty twenty four. I'm ready to go. I'm ready. Peace,