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How are you feeling tonight my love? If I'm being honest, all right Honest sure. Let's let's try honesty. Let's see where honesty takes us. I'm a bit exhausted exhausted still I did a double workout today. My shoulders are killing me. People were really excited when you said, I did a double. I know. They're like, ooh, tell us more Mrs. Sweets workout at the gym. Do you want to, do you want to throw a shout out to your gym? What's
your gym? Oh, my gym. Who's my gym? You always tell me have a good time with Jim and then when I come home You're like, did you have fun or was it hard? And I'm like Jim's always hard He's always hard I I do orange theory fitness Workout at orange three fitness do it take the classes. I don't know what you want how you want to say it But yeah highly recommend if you're looking for a gym. It's always hard. It's worldwide Give
a little little background. What is it? It's like a circuit training kind of like circuit hit Hit training. Okay, so it's fun. It's a good workout and you broke some records today I didn't break records, but you broke hearts No, i'm proud of you you said you got top or you got five fifth place out of Probably 120 130 people and yeah, you're yeah the 12 minute distance thing we did That's pretty dope save some energy for me though. Yeah, that was yes that was Two days ago. Oh,
I thought that was tonight. No tonight was No, they just result. They just sent their like they put their results on Instagram. Gotcha. So today I just saw the results, but it actually was I Might have even been a week ago. I can't remember
they all run together. No, it was on Tuesday I think Monday or Tuesday that I did that today was a double class I did 50 minutes strength training gotta flex these arms so buff so buff I gotta live up to my apparently my Popeye tattoo Beard called my new tattoo a Popeye tattoo because it's a it's on my But not in the same place Popeye had his but it's on my forearm. It's on the outside of your forearm. On my wrist forearm kind of area and it's an anchor but with a music note.
It's the cruise we went on. It's the treble clef. Yeah, so we went on music in an anchor. Yeah treble clef and on the anchor because we went on the 311 cruise, which we really haven't talked about but we got tattoos on the cruise ship. Yes, we probably won't talk. And I had my little tattoo boyfriend. tattoo convict. He looks like he was fresh out of cell block one. Okay, stereotyping. Oh, I'm pretty sure he was on parole. But that's that's that's another story. He was good vibes.
He's good. But prior to when I did my tattoo, yeah, he's the one who did your tattoo. Prior to doing that, we went to Secrets, which we talked about. Are we just skipping over our drinking? Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, I'm drinking something I've drank before. All right. I'm doing my drinky drinks. We're gonna pull back the curtain tonight, folks. We knew we had to get a podcast out. Pull back the curtain. We had some big ideas for some big elaborate drinks, but we got lazy. and tonight
we're just going with the basic margarita. And I'm just going with the tried and true vodka sprite. I had like a whole drink I was gonna do. It was a pretty fancy drink, but we're gonna save that for tomorrow night, because we got a little bit of a bunko party tomorrow night. So I'm gonna be making that. Just pulling back all of the curtains. That's right, folks. Bunko. Cheers. So this particular Bunko is gonna be an interesting one. We are blending worlds on
this one. A little bit. I hope it's not interesting, actually. We are blending vanilla. We with our with some of our LS friends now the the LS friends that are coming over. They're all very well -behaved Yeah, they they know what I never invite my un well -behaved LS So So I'm gonna I'm gonna save
my big my big drink for tomorrow night. Yeah So, um, yeah, so you we so we recap secrets and we fucked up We didn't fuck up we know we miss just a couple we miss some things and I think I was I was telling you I was like, you know
what we were at a disadvantage. So clearly Carlos and autumn remembered much more than we did Yeah, some of that had to do with the drinking that we did and some of it had to do with the fact that we were taking in a lot more Sensory information and everything was new to us Whereas they had been there before so they kind of knew the ropes They knew you know what to expect where to expect it what where to go what to do. Yes Everything
was brand new to us. So I think on top of like taking in everything it's like you kind of Forget or Not forget, but like you just miss run over stuff when you're recapping it. And then also we I don't know when they recorded, but I feel like they recorded much closer to the time when we went. Then we did because we had we were. We went to Secrets, the first part of our vacation. We had a whole nother week and a few days until our vacation was over. So we had gone on our
311 cruise. We had burned so many brain cells, drinking every single day. Drinking every day
there. Staying up all the time there. Yeah Exactly, we didn't even take naps so Which typically if we do all day shit we take naps but just cruise is like it's concerts like concerts non -stop constant music music that you want to go see and things you want to go do so it's like you can't You know LS people at LS events the ones we've been to for the most part they understand you need that downtime if you don't like people just burn out quick and so because everybody's
partying they usually will kind of almost schedule like it's stuff we've been to that's been all day it'll be like okay there's a there's a day party there's a two to three hour lull and then there's a night party or longer sometimes but It but well, yeah, there was no so there was no downtime. So we really didn't nap So anyway, we had that whole thing going on and then we had all of our travel time How many cups of coffee did you have tonight? Because you're on oh, yeah
Tequila is the only liquor. That's an upper. That's true. Yeah So anyway, we went on All of this stuff. So so we also didn't record until we didn't record that until I think three weeks after We actually went three weeks. It was two to three weeks. I don't know. I think you're I think a little bit longer. I think two, two. Yeah. OK, maybe two because we got back from our vacation and we didn't even do it until like four days after we got back. So at least at least
two, I think was longer than that. But anyway, so so I think they recorded. before they definitely recorded before us, but they weren't putting it out before us is what they basically said. So they had that advantage. But anyway, that being said, there were some things that we missed that we. Yeah. Definitely remember and listening to their side of it. I'm like, oh, yeah, that was a lot of fun. Like the lap dances between you and the girls and in the dungeon area. Like
that was a lot of fun. Yeah. And. Oh, and I didn't realize because actually, OK, so I think Carlos listens to us. So, Carlos, if you're listening, I didn't realize that that Mr. Sweets had said something to you or to Autumn about, oh, don't say anything on your podcast about. You going on stage about Carlos going on stage like you claimed it for our podcast. I didn't realize
that. I remember that. No, you did, because in our podcast, you started talking or maybe it wasn't in the podcast, but when we were kind of like recapping separately, you talked about it. And I said, no, that's I said to you, you can't talk about that because that was, you know, his thing that he did. You know, they need to talk about that first. So I stopped you from even like. putting that out of your head. Like,
don't talk about that. Yeah. And then come to find out you actually claimed it and they were waiting for us. And so we screwed that up. But yeah, you basically dared him to get on stage with the girl that was like dancing. He was clothed though, though. Right. I think you dared him naked. But then he had his shorts on. I remember him being up there dancing naked. Yeah. No, he
had his shorts on. yeah so that like that was my fault because i didn't hear you claim that and i was like no you can't say anything about that that was that was their whole thing and then the other thing that i realized while i was listening to their side like their podcast was um autumn was actually the queen of hearts not the rabbit which makes sense because she didn't have ears but it just was a white it was white and it had the um clock i Think it had
like a little clock on it, which is what made me think rabbit versus that or dude that one guy from Public Enemy The guy that always wears the big clock. No, it wasn't like it wasn't like that I know and he had a that guy had a um He had a reality TV show too. Yeah, I'm having a brain fart. Well, that's good thing. There's Google base. Hello. Can you go? I don't even know what he's saying. I just remember seeing him from something of love or some sort of love
show. What was it? Rock of Love? No. Hold on. Yeah. Who is the rapper? I know people are sitting in their car like screaming at us. I know they are. That's wonderful. The clock. Flava Flav. Flavor of love. Yes. Flavor of love. All right. Flava Flav. We digressed like a mother. Yeah, we did. Anyway, it wasn't that kind of clock, but she had like a little... It was like sewn into the costume and it was like a little... I should probably edit that out. I'm pretty sure
that's what it was. No, don't. Because I love that people were in their car screaming at us, Flava Flav! Or wherever they're listening. Anyway, so... It was so that's what made me think it was the rabbit. But again, she didn't have ears on so clearly that was a misinterpret a miss like Interpretation. Yeah Anyway, and then the only other thing I had to say I made notes cuz I was like, I don't want to forget because this
is what happens. Um is after hearing Their side or autumn side of like going into the playroom with us. I honestly don't know how she missed us to be frank because I thought maybe we they went in first like before we went in because we were closing our tab and stuff and I thought oh maybe we just took longer than like we thought we were going to take. And then by the time we went in there, they had already looked for us.
I mean, but that didn't wouldn't have made sense because you would have had your phone on you at that time, I guess, thinking about that in hindsight. But anyway, that's kind of what my first thought was, like when they said they like they couldn't find us. I was like, oh, maybe it was because they went in to look for us first before we actually got in there. And then after hearing you realize how fast you're talking right now. Really? It's blowing my mind. And then after...
You're like, I'm tired. Like the Micro Machine commercial back in the day. You're like the small print guy in a... You might experience diarrhea. That's why I'm not talking because I'm like, I can't fit in anywhere. No, because I wanted to get through these things that I had written down. All right. So I thought... So that's what I thought. I thought maybe they went in before us looked around, couldn't find us and then left.
And then we went in after them. That's like kind of what I was thinking probably happened because I was like, how could they have missed us? So but then hearing her side of it where she actually saw us walk in and then went to the bathroom and then went to go look for us. I'm like there. I really don't know how she missed us, to be quite honest. She might have went into that room because we were way at the back of that room. She might have just went in and did a quick scan.
No, she said she walked all through it. That's what I'm trying to figure out. The only other thing I could think is when we first went in... I had a mask on. No, when we first went because our even our locker was up at the front. So you had like if you went to your locker, you had to walk by us if we were in our locker area,
because we were like the first locker. So the only other thing I can think of is when we first went in and this is just how this is just you and I, we went into the shower room really fast. Yeah, we weren't in there very long. I mean, it was a quick basically just like rinse off. Yeah, just. make sure that we're not sweaty in weird places, which we probably weren't anyway because it was cold. But anyway, that's I digress. So that's the only thing I can think about that
room. The shower room was so big and open. It was like and very bright and super bright. It was like prison bright. It was unsexy bright. Super unsexy. If anything, secrets. If there's anything you can improve on is maybe put some dimmers. Dimmers in the shower. Yeah, that shower was like locker room. It was like ain't nothing going to happen in here bright. It was like so unsexy bright. It was. And for a lot of people, that's where you would start your night. You
were going to go do a quick rinse. Yeah. Well, a lot of us people, I mean, that's how we do. But if there's an opportunity to shower, we're there. Yeah, yeah. I want to wash my butt, you know. But yeah, it's it was it it started. It set a tone really quick. It was like, oh, yeah, it was super bright. Like I was walking to like the intake of jail. Yeah. No, that's what I'm saying. And the and the shower itself was like
a prison shower. Not that I've been in a prison shower, but I've seen plenty of prison shows. You watch a lot of prison shows. Yeah. So it was enough. Orange is the dark. Yeah. It was like stark white tiles and like, like you said, super fucking bright. So anyway, if she had even piqued her head in there, if we were in there, she would have seen us because other than the walls, we were the other the next brightest thing in there. Yes, I am not very tan. We were butt
naked and yes, we're super fucking white. So that being said, now I'm really confused at how we missed each other. You know what? Just it happened. Yeah, just whatever, whatever it was. Strangers in the night. Yeah, it's wild. But anyway. I hear they're coming. I hear the tickets are really cheap to come to California. Yeah. And I can promise you that your drink bill will be so much less at one of our places. Oh, a thousand percent. Because you're making your own damn
drinks. Because you're making your own drink and you're bringing it yourself. Yeah. So actually. They're not as nice, though. You know what? All that liquor money paid for that $90 ,000 like pool system or whatever it was. Yep. that paid to filter all that and upgrade their upgrade of their tiki bar and all their bars and their sound system and their light system. That's what all those that liquor. I know our liquor bill at least paid for a speaker. I'm part owner of
a speaker. It's got another speaker because of our liquor bill or one additional laser. Yeah. Or something. Anyway, so that is my recap. Recap. And my recap is I think I need to retire my spanking hand again. Oh, yeah. You heard the second recap and that was. Yeah, you didn't listen to that yet. So yeah, I didn't listen to that one. So, yes, I was giving out spankings. You're a spanker. I told you you had to slow your roll on that
before. I enjoy spanking, but. Women ask me sometimes, and we have a couple of friends that take the best of what I can give. And I have to understand that not everybody can. Yeah, you have to start off slow. And then if they say, oh, that was weak, then you can give them a little more. You can't start off with like the biggest. Well, see, that's the thing is I did one and I said I and she said, OK, and then I'm like, all right,
do another. And that's the second one is the one that got her because I took it up a level. Yeah. So, yeah, apologize for that. What did you do this? So we were at, we went to LUS this past weekend. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you have anything else you wanted to recap before I moved on? Because it had to do with the spanking. So that's why I transitioned. No, I think I think we've we've we've covered secrets well enough between our two podcasts. And yeah, yeah, I feel
like we had a great time. Yeah, a thousand percent want to do it again. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Good vibes. Okay. So speaking of speaking, speaking of speaking, speaking of spanking, speaking of spanking, that's like a hard thing to say when you're speaking really fast. Speaking of spanking. We went to lust. You're laughing at me. I can't with you. You're like exhausting me right now. We went to lust and This past weekend and we hadn't been since I think October That sounds
about right. Yeah, so It was a good time. Yeah We haven't hung out there for a while. Yeah, there's a lot of new faces. We met a 20 a couple that was in their 20s. Yes And we actually told them to listen to our podcast. Yes. I don't know if they're listening, but hey, y 'all, if we're talking about 20 year olds, it's you guys. There's only very there's very few 20 year olds in the
lifestyle, which is what we told them. Anyway, we can talk about that whole thing because that was like a whole nother conversation about age and all that stuff. But what I was what I was going to is we had friends, some friends that we. Do know who regularly are there like I said a lot of new faces But there were some people who we had seen we know our friends and she likes to be spanked hard She's got a lot of good padding they all booty. She's gotten to the point now
where she just kind of laughs. She does funny That's cute. You're so cute. That was a great great try there mister nice effort But the next day I did some spank ins I spanked a few people that night. I was taking a shower the next day and I was just washing my hands and I look down and I see some like... Discoloration. Discoloration. It was a dark shower like I didn't have the lights blaring so I put more soap on and washed more. I thought maybe I had makeup on my hand or something.
I freaking bruised my own hand. Spanking her butt. Yeah, I bruised my middle finger where the knuckle is on the bottom and then I bruised my whatever that part of the hand is. So, Autumn or Carlos, if you're listening and Autumn, just know he got paid back from spanking you. He got someone else paid him back. Someone spanked my hand with their butt. That was a first. I'm in construction, so my hands are fairly... worn. Like it takes a lot to just bruise me. So oh,
she did it. Yeah, she did it. But um, yeah, so we did less party. That was the party that uh, I used to do sound and stuff at yeah, like you said, we haven't been there since October. We went out there had a great time. Like you said, met some new faces, met some new boobs, new masses. You got your dicks that surprise surprise. Let me see lest and then uh, what else did we do?
It's past we've done. Oh, we had a we've had a couple of pool parties in between all this craziness Oh, yeah, we had a pool party and then we did Sunday fun day Well pool party was Sunday fun day and then we did another Sunday fun day. Yeah It's hard to keep up with all these things
a lot going on but um We had a good time. So but before we go any further, um we've been getting a lot of text messages and like I said before a lot of pictures and keep them coming guys it's fantastic but our our our sweet side of life sex phone number is 951 -226 -5261 oh excuse me once again 951 -226 -5261 that is the quickest and easiest way to get a hold of us You can also email us at the sweet side of life podcast at outlook comm The thing about the email is the
emails come through a lot of times They get sifted into the junk mail and I don't see them for three or four days The text messages or the voicemails I get immediately so there's a good chance I'll respond and then you know, there's been a couple people we've been talking with giving some advice to Stuff like that, but it kind of brought me to one of the most recent messages I got So we have a listener his name is Ivan and yes, I got permission to use his name and His content I
don't know if it's his real name, but that's that's how he introduced himself. He said yes So he's been hitting us up for a little bit now. Put out his phone number, just kidding. If you can reach him at. So he's a loyal listener and we've been going back and forth and his last message, one of his last messages said, Hi, this is your number one fan. He didn't actually say that word. This is your fan Ivan just wanted
to say thank you for the last episode. And now... he wants to visit a tiki bar to see what it's all about. Because obviously we talk about tiki bars. So apparently Ivan's never been to a tiki bar. Such good vibes. I don't know where Ivan lives. But you got to let us know and I can turn you on to some good tiki bars in your area. If it's an area we know. Yeah. Looking at the phone number, I'm thinking he's somewhat in our area, in our SoCal region. So I could probably point
you in the right direction. Then he also said, where are we at? Okay, he asked if we are ever thinking about doing an episode on how to tell your loved one that you would like to join the lifestyle. It's something that he has no idea how to bring up to his wife, but he would appreciate any advice. Have a great day Your number one and number two fan So this kind of takes me to a broader subject, um, we've been toying with the idea of kind of Doing like an intro to the
LS. Oh like like you're What to expect? Because we've actually had quite a few people ask that. Like we, from our first podcast, if you go all the way back, we talk about how we got into it. And our podcast has always been more of a story -based, a personal journey, journey -based and experience -based podcast. It's never been much of a lesson. It's like, it's not a how -to. It's never been a how -to because we're still figuring
out how to. But I think, I think we've. We're experienced enough now we could probably kind of go in and structure some, you know, first timer expectations. Yeah. What to expect at your first party, what to take to your first party, et cetera. However, before you get to any of those first parties. Yeah. You have to have the conversation. You have to have the conversation. So, Ivan, um, I don't know your exact situation. However, the biggest, the biggest thing. in LS
is communication. That starts way at the beginning to where you're at right now. Yeah. And there are some of the stuff I'm going to talk about right now is not directly related to you, Ivan, because obviously, I don't know your situation. But I'm just going to reflect on some things that I've seen. We're in a bunch of like swinger groups. Facebook groups, my space groups. So we so we see a lot. So we see a lot of examples
of how not to do and how to do. Yeah. So we're going to touch on a little bit of that really quick. So you can touch on how you brought it up with you. Yes. So You and I are slightly I don't know how it I don't it's it would be it would be easier to know To give somebody advice on this if you knew what part of it intrigued them, right? Cuz yeah for you. Yeah it was Kind of like the watching and the stories and the
hearing. Mm -hmm but the you and I were a little bit different in a sense of When we weren't even like well if you listen to the podcast from all the way begin beginning We were going to like a sex club before when we were just boyfriend girlfriend Yeah, and we had zero play with anybody else, but we had been in that that environment environment So I don't think for me to bring it up to you. It was as difficult because I already knew you were open minded to a certain level
of activity. Like you were cool with being watched and watched. Like, so that's what I was already there. I'm kind of saying it's kind of hard to give somebody advice when you don't know, like, like, is it like where? Yeah, exactly. Their starting point. Like, is their starting point like? Prude Mormon Church like they're wearing their underwears and they're not even like having sex themselves Because the approach could be
completely different. Yeah a thousand percent or are they at a point where they kind of Like we were like, okay We kind of like we like we know we like being watched like we we are in this sexy atmosphere We enjoy that part of it You go to clubs you tease each other like it's like Like regular clubs like yeah, whatever go out and you're just like, oh Are they comfortable with you? Commenting on somebody else or are they do they literally lose their shit with if
you say anything about anybody? Yeah How is your relationship like do you compliment your wife? All the time are you guys having sex like are you guys doing all that stuff? Like I don't it's like so hard to give advice when you really don't know Yeah, cuz I could tell you personally something, Ivan, that could blow up your whole relationship. Yeah, because your starting point is so different. You know, like your baseline is so different. So I think the I mean, like you said, communication
is 100 percent like he. Yeah. But I think it would be like you you have to think about why do you want to do this? Yeah. And then think about what it will bring to your relationship. And then I think start implementing some of that into your relationship. Just between the two of you. Yeah. So if you think, oh, it'll bring more communication, then try to communicate more. If you think it's going to bring like more sex,
then try to initiate sex more. If you think it's going to bring make your your significant other feel sexier, because maybe they're not feeling as sexy, but you see them as sexy. help them feel sexy by telling them they're sexy or buying them stuff and asking them to wear it for you or things like that. Like, I think the first step is kind of like knowing what you're wanting to get out of it and first try and implement implement that into your relationship. Yeah.
It's kind of like figuring out the why. Yeah.
And so basically some of the things I'm going to say right now are not necessarily things To do but it's gonna be more in the thing of things not to do what not to do and that's easier to say than to Because that kind of encompasses exactly that is like that's like across the board like just don't do this like this is Terrible, but like I said things to do is a little bit more difficult because it's definitely more personal and there's definitely more personal reasons
why people get into this like I have a lot of friends who've gotten into this because they're the female part is bisexual and she wants to explore that. So maybe she brought it up, you know, but if it's so it's hard to say how to bring it up when it's when we don't know the why. But it's easy to say what not to do because there's definitely some things that are definite no's and go against everything. So here's here's the first don't. Don't try to use this to fix
a marriage. A hundred and ten percent. If you guys. Again, when I say you guys, I'm referring to everybody. If if you. Have like a sexless, loveless marriage and you think that introducing this is going to provide a spark. Don't. It might work for one percent. But the thing about the LS is it's going to highlight the goods and the bads. So if there's a lot of insecurities, it's only going to make those bigger. If there's problems, it's just going to highlight those even more.
But if you have good things like your communication, it makes your communication better. It can highlight everything, but When you're first starting, you have to make sure you're on a very solid, solid ground to start. Yeah. Which is why I said, which is why I said in my like, why is you have to whatever you want to get out of it, start that in your current relationship before you try to start it with other people. Like if you want more of something or you want to enhance something
in your relationship. enhance it first together. And then and then once you've been like, OK, I'm comfortable like this is fun, like us doing it together. Maybe it would be more fun if somebody you know what I mean? Like you have to bring whatever you're looking for. You have to bring it first to your relationship because it's definitely not going to fix your relationship. Whatever is for sure. So one thing I've seen in all those groups I was talking about is More often than
not, it's a guy that typically initiates. I mean, it definitely goes both ways, but it seems to be more the guy. The guy typically thinks this is going to open up a whole new world of sex to him. And what he doesn't realize... Is that the the woman typically is gonna get much more attention. Yeah, and a lot of times the guys aren't ready for that. Yeah, so We always say
swinging is like such a woman's world. It is like we make the rules we decide you know, yeah the situations like who is mostly decided by the women and like it's very much like female -dominated kind of like mm -hmm so So you have to kind of like going back to the the why you have to figure out what your approach is and It could be you know There's a lot of scenarios where it's a hot wife thing where you want to see Your wife with men other men you want to
watch her you want to do this you want to do that? It's you that just want to you know, get out there and do that that could work as well But everybody in the the dynamic has to understand what is going on. Yeah, so one of the things I will say not to do is to Dive into this world by yourself for an extended period of time and then bring it to your your wife or your your girlfriend or whatever it is because See a lot of this in our groups is some guy will post.
Hey me and my wife Are you know, we're a couple from Alabama and you know, blah blah blah How can I convince and they'll post a picture and be like how can I convince my wife to be in the lifestyle? It's like bro. You've already made like three big errors Hey more you're posting you're posting in a group. No community pictures. No communication. Your wife has no idea what's going on and How can I convince? It should not
be a convince. Yeah, it has to be a very much agreed upon mutual We're going in together on this journey Yeah, because if if if you guys aren't both on the same page or at least in that within the same book Yeah, it's gonna get ugly quick fast there's going to be resentment because even when you are in the same book it it gets initially i mean at least in our experience it can get messy oh yeah like people make mistakes boundaries get crossed things happen that you
didn't know were gonna happen um you're going to have feelings that you didn't know you were going to have, like, and they can creep up on you. Like one scenario with somebody can be 100 percent fine. You're like, that was the best night we've ever had. And then it can be a very similar scenario. But with somebody else and all of a sudden it's like other feelings creep up or whatever, or you're just not feeling a certain like it's I mean, the human emotions
are so, you know. Vast and just like unpredictable that it's very much like even if you're in the same book It's you can still get off the same
page. And so if you're not even in the same book Like yeah, your starting point is already like you're fucked And not in a good way and you're gonna experience it not in the way that makes me want to call you daddy Exactly And you're gonna expect to experience Like you said all all different levels of emotion from jealousy and more often than not jealousy is is kind of more of an envy thing a lot of times because You like you said you could both be in one situation
and if one person is getting more attention Then the other person get can get jealous, you know quote unquote, but it's more of an envy Whereas if you were both equally doing the same thing equally that jealousy would be a different feeling So there's there's a lot of things to you know, think about prepare yourself for that but I think Like the way I would I would suggest it the way we kind of you and I Kind of got into it which seemed to work and what seems to work for a lot
of people is I definitely I started listening a podcast before you Yeah, I wasn't in groups and I wasn't on web pages and I wasn't posted on my space and I wasn't I Wasn't interacting with people. Yeah, I knew better Like I'm not like no, this is very much. It was an informational dive for me and then once once I've started diving into it and I kind of wrap my head around it. That's when I brought it to you. It was like hey Let's talk about this Listen to this podcast.
It was called the sweet side of life At that time it was a diary swingers diary Swingers diaries, which they are defunct. They are no longer around but they were a very good intro podcast. Mm -hmm.
They were and You and I started listening We were trying to listen to the same ones on the same day so we could kind of compare notes Yeah at the end of the day or we would send text throughout the day like oh that was pretty oh I haven't gotten there yet and spoiler alert, you know, yeah and It very much became a a couple thing a journey. Yeah together and then That in my opinion was damn near perfect like how we kind
of went in together. Yeah But some of these, some of these people that I'm seeing, they're like, they're in it and they're posting pictures and yeah, that's going to be a mess. And then they're asking, how do I convince? And 99 % of the people in the chat are like, dude, leave this chat, get out of this chat room. This chat
room doesn't exist to you start over. So I would say like what we were saying from the get -go is if don't use the word convince, that is a very, um, almost a forceful way of get on my mind. Yeah, get on my level. No, we don't want to convince anybody. Yeah, it should be 100 % like everybody's on the same page and convincing somebody. You never know if they just did it because you forced them to do it or if they did it and it'll end terribly. That's going to be
messy. So I think the keys are stabilize your relationship. Yeah. If you're doing this because you're rocky, don't do it because you're rocky. Figure out your relationship first because A, nobody else wants to deal with your drama. No. There are plenty of great people within the communities that are there for support. And at some point, everybody's going to run into problems. Yeah. And those people which will become your friends will be there to support you during that time.
But you just got to make sure your initial intro to the communities and stuff is not drama, not drama, a very honest approach within your relationship. And on the same level. So yeah. So if you're hard to give advice on this whole thing, I can't give like straight personal, I can just very vague. Yeah, because I've been everybody's journey is different. I even if you want to send me more of your more of your info, like more more your backstory, maybe we can kind of give you a little
more. And I was gonna say send a picture of your wife. Exactly. That completely is opposite of what we were just saying. But yeah, just saying. Then, you know, maybe we can tell. You can also use this part. I mean, but I would like to know kind of their backstory, but you can also use this podcast to like he could say, hey, I came across this podcast. This couple has an interesting, you know, lifestyle that they live and it's intriguing. And I mean, you can always use other people because
it's safe. um to say like you're not necessarily saying i want to do it but you're like it's intriguing it's stumbled across this it's fun to listen to you know you should listen to it and then that kind of opens the door for conversation um i mean like i said it's different because you you're you opened it up by saying like you know Well, obviously you said you kind of I mean you already knew like I was open to more sexual stuff because of what we had done when we were
dating but That still could have gone sideways because we had a long different journey between that time I think I pretty much did it the perfect way Tell me more. Tell me more how perfect you are. Well, it all started back in. No, I think I mean, I think I've for the most part followed my advice, because the other thing I was going to say is one of the keys is is a lot of a lot
of this starts with fans fantasies. Yeah. So fantasies can be derived from like your personal fantasies they can be derived from porn they could be derived from you know whatever the case may be um but in our our case and which i think is happens with a lot of people is you know i i was asking you like have you ever thought about dot dot dot like second another dick or whatever the case was be and you kind of like insert that thought there and you kind of create that that
fantasy Actually, I know this is how Carl or son autumn Kind of got into she like right when she was like really hot. He would say something like oh What would you do if there was like another
guy right here? And she's like I'd suck his dick while you're banging me and then he's like she's like And then he's like well, I can get a guy over and she's like what no So you kind of you like you kind of start with stuff like that and then you just kind of get the mind going and you get the ideas in there and it's like a worm, you know, it kind of goes into your brain and and In the heat of the moment, you know, it's fun to talk about yeah and then the other thing
to do is to also kind of gauge where the your partner's at is to watch porn together and Comment on the porn that you're watching Like comment.
Oh, you know, I really like her breasts or look at her ass or look at his dick or whatever, you know stuff like that to get to the point where You you can kind of gauge where the other partner's at Yeah, like if if it doesn't bother him or her that you're looking at another person sexually that that kind of works the situation and because I mean If you're sitting there watching a porn And you say, oh, I like the way her ass looks or the way her tits look and she or he gets mad.
Yeah, like we're not there yet. You are not there because trust in a room that is not going to. Yeah, they probably don't. And the person probably doesn't feel secure. Yeah. And so that's where I said, like, build, build him or her up. Yeah. Make sure you're building your, you know, spouse or significant other up. In a way that like they
feel secure. So if you both feel secure then making little comments about somebody they're never likely to meet or yeah, you know, like is not gonna shouldn't cause like trauma or like them to be so upset about it because a lot of the I don't know. I I guess I mean obviously we have a different way of thinking but I think a lot of the that stuff just comes from insecurity. Like, oh, you saying that means that they're better than I am. Yeah. But realistically, it's
like, why can't we? You can both coexist. Yeah. Can't we all just get along? Like, why can't you enjoy that ass, but also enjoy my ass? Exactly. You know what I mean? That's exactly where it is. It's not just one. Yeah. It's just this is like this is yours. This is mine, whatever. And
then you add sprinkles. Yeah. And I mean, it's a very basic way of thinking, but it's a tough way of thinking too, because you have to feel you have to know that like, to like, for you to me or whatever that I'm more than just an ass, whereas that's just an ass. You're also a great person. I have a great personality attached to my ass. So it's again, it goes back to being secure in your relationship and feeling confident
in it. And understanding that like, just because somebody looks at an ass doesn't mean they're leaving you tomorrow for that ass. It's like, that's not likely, you know, exactly. And then you take those lessons that you're watching them, the fantasy talk, and then you got the porn watching. And if you succeed, you can't watch porn together. You definitely can't do this because I mean, it's live porn. It's live. And yeah, if in the lifestyle, it's live porn. I don't I don't want
to I don't want to participate. Like I don't want to put a definite like there's no way. But you have a lot more to work through. It's going to be tough. Yeah. You have a lot. You have a longer way to go. Yeah. Yeah. It's a long way to the top. If you want to rock and roll and quote Jack Black. But. No, actually that was a CDC. All right. Well in in the school of rock
it was Jack Flack. It was yeah That's true. I Agress like a motherfucker So yeah kind of using those lessons to go with the porn and then and then the other thing is to ask your partner I wouldn't say do this while you're sitting in the drive through at Jack in the Box, but while you're in the moment, while you're having relations, inquire about her past or his past sexual activity. Like what they liked or what they've done. Describe
situations they've been in. Again, if that drives you crazy with jealousy, then take a step back. Yeah. And then work on other things and then try that again. Because if you can't have some level of enjoyment with that, I don't see progressively moving forward. Yeah, it's going to be hard to then see them actually performing those sexual favors on somebody else. Exactly. You can't even talk about it. So there's there's so many levels to it, but it's it's steps. It's all about steps.
Yeah. And I mean, some people literally just go out and they just jump right in, jump right in and they have a fast text and it works and it works for them. But I would say that's probably very few. And and and I would say people say
that's what they did. But there had to have been some sort of like Something before that because I don't even understand how you would literally just go to like go from like not talking about Anything not having any conversations about other people not having any Dialogue and literally just one day like oh, we're gonna go like we're just randomly fucking this other couple like that just It's there was probably some sort of They probably had a threesome when they first
got there, right? I feel like there had to have been and maybe I'm wrong But maybe not like a full like you're never wrong. Maybe not like a I know maybe not like a full conversation about it, but there are both freaks or so there's yes something but That is not typical. No, so the thing about the thing about the getting into the LS and and you know talking to your your mate about it is take steps, take baby steps.
Everybody's different, but take steps. And the biggest thing they say is to go as slow as the slowest person. Because there's always a gas and a brake. And, you know, the gas wants to move to the next level and the brakes like holding back like, you know. And it can change in different like dynamics. For the most part, I've always been the brake. but some situations You like you you open up the engine you like push them You've always been the breaker. You've always
been the gas. I'm normally the gases. Yeah, I said the other way. Yeah, normally I Normally I'm the gas But not I don't over gas it Um, but yeah, there's sometimes you surprise me and I'm like what shit? Yeah, and then you have to put the break. I'm like break hold up but um So, yeah, you know, take it steps. There's some people that it takes years to get to the point where they can go to a party. Yeah. Some people are a couple of months. You know, everybody's different.
The other thing we did as this isn't really how to get your spouse into it, I guess, but more like a slow slide into it as we tech like we texted guys. And. Like three like three -way texted like he'd be on the text. I'd be on the text and a guy would be on the text. Oh We played around with reddit for a little bit Yeah, and then you would like we would send pictures or they would be flirting and like we'd all like there was kind of like this Almost like a digital
threesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and that that again that forces you to like look at your boundaries and get comfortable with being uncomfortable almost like there's some things that you know would come across your screen and you're like yeah okay yeah and you kind of have to you know you know suck it in yeah not suck it in but chew on it for a bit no chew on it ingest it no don't adjust it so yeah but everybody's different so the biggest thing is communication Get on the
same page Introduced into our podcast Have her send me pictures Yeah, and then just kind of go from there and then You're gonna you're gonna you're gonna hit many consent consent Make sure she's consenting before you're putting her pictures on. Yes Don't yeah for everybody that for everybody
that does that in the chats man. Come on Your wife has got to know that you're posting pictures and you're playing these games Yeah, I if that role was reversed and I got blindsided and I found like that you Were like part of all these groups and that's how you introduced me To the idea. You're just like hey already deceitful. Yeah, it's already deceitful and you know honesty is one of the biggest things, you know, in the
LS. So if you're starting on that, like pull back, leave the groups, leave the group right now, kill your, you know, kill your screen name, pull back, drop back the truck up, get her in the passenger seat. And, you know, take the drive together because that's the only real good way
to do it. And even if you do it all the right ways you are still gonna hit speed bumps mm -hmm and there's gonna be sometimes the tires come off and you have to get out you got to change the tire and Just be ready for it because it's a it's a bumpy ride, but it's a hell of a ride.
It's very fun Super fun. So there's there's a lot more we could go into right now But I just really I just kind of wanted to touch just touch the subject tonight because Just feel like we need to do a few more informational kind of You know share our wealth of knowledge amongst the peasants But that we're gonna close this up here pretty soon, but before we do that We have some things coming up ladies and gentlemen So today
is April 17th Hopefully you did your taxes. Oh shit Oops So that was a yawn that was a yawn see I stopped talking and then I'm like my battery went So April 25th, it's a Friday Friday April 25th There is a organization out here in Southern California called say less productions It's an
organization. It's a nonprofit And they're getting their tax break exactly it's a community they're on Cassidy you can find them on say less productions They're holding one of their monthly meeting greets at a bar in Murrieta called the Cove bar and girl Is it the bar and girl? I think it's definitely the Cove. I'm not sure about the bar and girl part Anyways, we're gonna be there. We shall we are gonna be there both you and I
you and I both By Sam and Cole. Yes, Sarah and Cole say less productions and we're gonna be hanging out there all night long if you're lucky You can touch my crotch That goes to the ladies not the gentleman part of the ladies and gentlemen and then after that we have a Memorial Day weekend We're not sure we're not sure exactly what we're doing But I would say 99 % we're gonna end up in Vegas Yeah with looking that way with some
friends of ours. You guys have heard on the Michigan couple We did a interview with them Tom and Liz. They're probably gonna be joining us We're gonna be doing like whispers pool parties. We might head over to flirts LV We don't have everything nailed down yet, but as soon as we do, we will send out all the information and we'd love for you guys to join us if you're out there. Join our community on Cassidy and we always post what we're doing. Well, you always post. I've not
been the best. Oh, oh. And then you're giving me shit about TikTok. Yeah. Speaking of tiktok, which I don't even have all the pictures from secrets I went to go do a tiktok on that and then I was like I have like four pictures You never sent me the one I sent you everything. No, you didn't send me the ones Carlos took I don't have the ones inside the club. Whatever,
bro. Whatever So we got that that's a big trip coming up and then we got some more information as I'm sure you heard EDR exotic dreams resorts in Palm Springs. We read them the riot act and guess what? They're reopening. So I said they were dead to me and I'm willing to forgive because as of July 1st, they apparently are coming back and they're going to be back to clothing optional. I think they've seen the error of their ways.
i'm like the the they're like the abusive boyfriend and we keep going i just keep going back to them and just i just let them treat treatment like crap but they said they're remodeling so we'll see if we can get some tiles on the fucking floor i would love some tiles but here's the thing about adr is there there is a guy there is a gentleman i don't know his last name i just know him as don don is a fairly big name in the Ellis community out here in all the different Ellis
resorts and whatnot. He tends to kind of jump around and he fixes things up and then he gets things going then he just kind of moves around but he's fairly well known. Don was in and out at EDR but Don is back. Guess who's back? Don is back. Back again. So I think Don We're wearing like a big D on his on his shirt like a superhero. Yeah Don And my goal is that he's turning EDR
Into the resort that we all deserve. Yeah So I actually was texting with EDR earlier in the week and I requested a podcast interview with Don. Oh you did Yes, and they said he will be
in this weekend. So I am gonna try to give him a call and See it here at some point if we can do like a FaceTime interview here on the podcast because the thing about the LS community is They're they're they're very big big hearts and very close -knit community, but we don't like to be burned No, and there are a lot of very upset people out there about how EDR handled everything handled everything and I really hope that Don and EDR can turn things around and get it back
to where it used to be, because it used to be the place to go for summer parties. So my goal is to get Don on here and interview him and then, you know, see what his ideas are. And hopefully together we can turn this around. And I'd love to put EDR back on our schedule. My goal is July
12th, they're having a foam party. That weekend my goal If I'm able to make it the biggest party is yes If I can get that interview and we can you know get enough people to kind of give them a chance I want to make that a fucking party. Yeah, I want to make that a sweet side of life Blast just have a good time You know do the helicopter So that's my goal We'll see we'll see my skills solid gold goal So we'll see if that works out.
But um, yeah, so look for that in the next couple weeks Hopefully I can get Don on the phone and we can yeah, have a good time with Don Diggity Don what he has to say. I Want to hear it? I know there I took all of our I don't know about all I took a lot of our EDR tick tocks down I
said fuck you. I'm not promoting you if you're not gonna be clothing optional and lifestyle Friendly, yeah dead to me and I can't put those tic -tacs back up So, yeah She obviously you can tell she she feels a certain type of way and I do as well, but I I don't hold grudges So I'm hoping that we're gonna have to come groveling If they want my heart and money We'll be back. I'm going to have to see how well they've remodeled these rooms before I agree to anything. So basically
if you go to edrhotel .com, you can kind of see what their remodel schedule is. And they're supposedly kind of in the remodel phase right now. The last email I got from them, they said they got their permits and they're starting to remodel and it says they're doing all the different blocks of rooms and they're all set to be done by July 1st, which is their reopening date. So we'll see. I'm hopeful because I really did enjoy that
place. There's a lot of great memories there and I'm looking forward to creating many more.
So yeah, on that note, I think we're going to go ahead and call it and we're going to see you the next one on the next podcast we will see we don't see anybody we will see you live on the next podcast take it away on the next one okay trying to trick you so that you'd say whatever you're gonna say that I could say okay When enjoying the sweet side of life keep your pineapples upside down believe in unicorns and keep shaking it
up. Love you, baby Love you too Stay sexy If you would like to get in contact with us, please email us at the sweet side of life podcast at outlook .com Or you can always find us on any one of our socials that are listed in the podcast links