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The Strong Towns Podcast

The Strong Towns Podcast is a weekly conversation on the Strong Towns movement, hosted by Strong Towns Founder and President Charles Marohn and frequently featuring special guests. The podcast explores how we can financially strengthen our cities, towns, and neighborhoods and, in the process, make them better places to live. Join Chuck in examining how everything from urban design to economics to systems theory to psychology helps inform this core question.

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Episodes

Why Strong Towns Won’t Cave to Election Year Pressures

It’s Member Week here at Strong Towns. As a special treat, we’re publishing three new episodes of the Strong Towns Podcast . In this episode, Chuck explains how election years affect a nonpartisan nonprofit like Strong Towns. It’s kind of ugly, but it doesn't change our mission. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Become a member today! Chuck Marohn (Twitter/X) ....

Nov 15, 202428 minEp. 633

From the Bottom Up: How Members Built the Strong Towns Movement

It’s Member Week here at Strong Towns. As a special treat, we’re publishing three new episodes of the Strong Towns Podcast this week. In this episode, Chuck is joined by Norm Van Eeden Petersman, Strong Towns’ director of membership and development. They discuss the history of the Strong Towns movement and how members have brought it to heights Chuck never could’ve imagined — including spreading Strong Towns ideas not only across North America but across the world. The movement’s grown so much, ...

Nov 13, 20241 hrEp. 632

To Build Strong Towns, We Need To Change the Cultural Conversation

Today, we’re kicking off Member Week at Strong Towns. As a special treat, we’ll be publishing three new episodes of the Strong Towns Podcast this week. In this first episode, Chuck discusses the cultural shift that the Strong Towns movement is striving to create and why that shift is so essential to building more prosperous and resilient communities. This is a bottom-up movement, and it needs your help to succeed. Join the ranks of people building a stronger tomorrow by becoming a member today. ...

Nov 11, 202428 minEp. 631

5 Things the Next President Should Do To Build a Stronger America

Strong Towns is a nonpartisan organization that’s focused on starting change from the local level, not the federal one. However, Chuck was recently challenged to come up with five things that the next president, whoever they end up being, should do once they’re in office. In today’s episode of the Strong Towns Podcast , he shares that list and explains why each item is important to building a stronger America. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES “ 5 Things For The Next President To Do ” (article). Chuck Maroh...

Nov 04, 20241 hrEp. 630

Prioritizing Safety in Street Design: A Conversation with Melany Alliston

On this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck discusses street safety with Melany Alliston, a project manager and civil engineer with Toole Design. They cover the role of engineers in creating safe streets, Alliston’s work with Toole Design and her experience participating in a number of Crash Analysis Studio sessions. To hear more about street safety, join us on Tuesday, October 15 for a virtual press conference where we will release the report “ Beyond Blame: How Cities Can Learn From Cra...

Oct 14, 202453 minEp. 629

Rethinking the “Moonshot” Approach to Complex Problems Like Street Safety

In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck talks about V2X (vehicle-to-everything) technology and how it’s an example of a moonshot — a big, risky gamble that promises an equally big reward. He explains why these big gambles often fail when applied to complex problems like street safety and how the Strong Towns approach differs. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Register for the virtual press conference where we will release the report “Beyond Blame: How Cities Can Learn From Crashes To Create Safer...

Oct 07, 202448 minEp. 628

Has the Highway Trust Fund Outlived Its Usefulness? A Conversation With Beth Osborne.

On this week’s episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck is joined by Beth Osborne, the director of Transportation for America, to discuss the Highway Trust Fund. They cover its history, how it affects federal and state transportation policies, and its potential future. Before joining Transportation for America, Osborne served as a deputy assistant secretary and acting assistant secretary in the U.S. Department of Transportation. She also worked in multiple congressional offices, served as the ...

Sep 30, 202453 minEp. 627

Exploring the Role of Religious Institutions in Community Development

At the Table is a podcast that discusses how community-based ministries can contribute to the common good via mutual relationships, spiritual practice, simplicity and an awareness of God’s activity in communities. They recently invited Strong Towns President Charles Marohn to appear on an episode. It was a great conversation, so we’re sharing that audio with you here on the Strong Towns Podcast , too. Up for discussion today, the Suburban Experiment, the role of religious institutions in communi...

Sep 16, 20241 hr 4 minEp. 625

From Crime to Common Practice: How Fraud Dominates the Housing Market

In this special episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck talks about fraud in the housing market. He discusses how it manifests, how it gradually saturates the market and how it’s connected to housing bubbles. He then explores how fraud plays a role in the current housing crisis and how federal and private organizations are trying to combat it. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES " The Housing Market Is a Bubble Full of Fraud, and It’s Going To Pop .” Chuck Marohn (Twitter/X) ....

Aug 28, 20241 hr 2 minEp. 624

From Boring to Brilliant: Making Municipal Finance Fun With Michel Durand-Wood

In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck discusses municipal finance with Michel Durand-Wood, a longtime Strong Towns contributor and local budget aficionado. They talk about the importance of the average person understanding municipal finance, the obstacles that can make such understanding difficult and how their approaches to discussing finance have changed over the years. If you want to hear more from Durand-Wood, he’ll be co-hosting a Local-Motive session with Chuck on September 19...

Aug 26, 20241 hrEp. 623

Build the Damn Train: How To Bring High-Speed Rail to the United States

In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, Chuck discusses the report “ How To Improve Domestic High-Speed Rail Project Delivery ” with one of the report’s authors, Eric Goldwyn. They discuss the advantages of high-speed rail over other transportation options, the challenges that building such a system in the U.S. would pose and five key recommendations for overcoming those challenges. Goldwyn is a leading urban scholar and program director at the Marron Institute of Urban Management, as well ...

Aug 19, 20241 hr 3 minEp. 622

The Traffic Enforcement Futility Loop

In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast , Chuck takes a look at a recent fatal car crash that took place in Ontario. Unfortunately, deadly car crashes occur all the time across North America, and this one might not have even stood out if not for a tweet released in response by local law enforcement, which held the promise of a team that intends to investigate the crash…but for all the wrong reasons. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES " Why Traffic Enforcement Isn’t Enough To Save Lives. ” Chuck Marohn (T...

Aug 12, 202457 minEp. 621

Why Local Leaders Can Address the Housing Crisis but Federal Programs Fail

In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast , Chuck discusses the feedback systems that created the housing affordability crisis. He explains why federal and state government policies can’t solve the problem and that local leaders are the real key to addressing it. He also lays out some of the concrete actions local leaders can take to address the housing crisis in their cities. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES " Federal and State Programs Can’t Fix the Housing Crisis, but Local Action Can .” Chuck Marohn ...

Aug 05, 202449 minEp. 620

Oh Crap! Dealing With Sewer Upgrades Is a Complicated Mess

Maumee, Ohio, winner of the 2024 Strongest Town Contest, is facing a big sewer infrastructure challenge. It needs to update its sewer system to comply with EPA regulations — an extremely large, expensive project. To handle this problem, the city is requiring residents who want to sell their homes to pay for the needed updates to their sewage systems, which is generating backlash from residents. In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast , Chuck explains the history of sewer infrastructure, how ...

Jul 29, 202458 minEp. 619

The Truth About the Suburban Experiment: A Response to “Contra Strong Towns”

In this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast , Chuck responds to a recent Substack column that criticized the Strong Towns stance on the Suburban Experiment and infrastructure spending. He corrects some misconceptions from the column and discusses the ways that cities handle (or fail to handle) their finances and how that can lead to financial insolvency. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES “ Contra Strong Towns ” (Substack). “ What Strong Towns Really Says About Infrastructure Spending .” Chuck Marohn (Twitte...

Jul 22, 202455 minEp. 618

How To Escape the Housing Trap: A Special Q&A Session

Can your city escape the housing trap simply through blanket rezoning? Is completely eliminating zoning compatible with an incremental approach? How should your city handle historic designations that are blocking housing development? Strong Towns President Chuck Marohn answers all these questions and more in this episode of the Strong Towns Podcast . This Q&A session comes on the heels of a member-exclusive event where Chuck discussed his and Daniel Herriges’ new book “Escaping the Housing T...

Jun 17, 202444 minEp. 617

Member Drive Week Special: Most Public Engagement Is Worthless

This is the final episode in the Strong Towns Podcast 's special Member Drive series. Every day, Chuck has read one of his best articles that you might’ve missed. Today, he’s reading one of Strong Towns’ most popular articles, “Most Public Engagement Is Worthless.” This article explores the typical methods used by city planners when collecting feedback from the public and why they often fail. Instead of focusing on what people think they want — since most of the time they don’t know themselves —...

Jun 14, 202413 minEp. 616

Member Drive Week Special: If We Made Shoes Like We Make Housing, People Would Go Barefoot

This is the fourth episode in the Strong Towns Podcast 's special Member Drive series. Every day, Chuck is reading one of his best articles that you might’ve missed. Today, he’s reading “If We Made Shoes Like We Make Housing, People Would Go Barefoot.” This article is an excerpt from Chuck’s most recent book “Escaping the Housing Trap,” coauthored with Daniel Herriges. It discusses how restrictions on types of housing have caused massive price spikes, wiped out starter homes and made any housing...

Jun 13, 202411 minEp. 615

Member Drive Week Special: How Fannie Mae Puts a Chokehold on Local Home Financing Solutions

This is the third episode in the Strong Towns Podcast 's special Member Drive series. Every day, Chuck is reading one of his best articles that you might’ve missed. Today, he’s reading “How Fannie Mae Puts a Chokehold on Local Home Financing Solutions.” This article explains how mortgage financiers rose to dominance through an “orgy of debt and price appreciation” and how they continue to twist the conversation around housing to further increase prices and debt. Make sure to check back in tomorr...

Jun 12, 202416 minEp. 614

Member Drive Week Special: One Billion Bollards

This is the second episode in the Strong Towns Podcast 's special Member Drive series. Every day, Chuck is reading one of his best articles that you might’ve missed. Today, he’s reading “One Billion Bollards,” which discusses the current engineering norm of prioritizing drivers’ safety over that of pedestrians — and how this blatant disregard for people’s lives is “nothing less than institutionalized mass murder.” Make sure to check back in tomorrow to catch the next installment of this special ...

Jun 11, 202413 minEp. 613

Member Drive Week Special: The Cost of an Extra Foot

In honor of Member Drive, the Strong Towns Podcast is publishing five episodes this week. Every day, Chuck will read one of his best articles that you might’ve missed. Today, he’s reading “The Cost of an Extra Foot,” which explains why engineers love overdesign and what that means for cities’ finances. Make sure to check back in tomorrow to catch the next installment of this special series. If you enjoy this podcast, or any of the other work Strong Towns does, become a member today . Be the chan...

Jun 10, 202414 minEp. 612

Megan Kimble: The Toll Urban Highways Take and the People Fighting Back

Megan Kimble is an Austin-based journalist and author who’s spent the last four years writing about urban highways and highway expansion in Texas. Today, she’s joining us to discuss her new book “ City Limits: Infrastructure, Inequality, and the Future of America's Highways ,” where she explores three highway projects in Austin, Dallas and Houston, and the different groups fighting to stop them. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Megan Kimble (Website) . Chuck Marohn (Twitter/X) . Join our email list to get ...

May 20, 202450 minEp. 611

How to Escape Housing (and Baseball Stadium) Traps, Plus a Little Disney Urbanism.

The Messy City is a podcast that discusses urban planning and design issues. Its host, Kevin Klinkenberg, recently invited Strong Towns President Chuck Marohn to appear on an episode. It was a great conversation, so we’re sharing that audio with you here on the Strong Towns Podcast , too. Up for discussion today: takeaways from “ Escaping the Housing Trap: The Strong Towns Response to the Housing Crisis ,” the logistics of building new sports stadiums, and how Disney World simultaneously embodie...

May 13, 20241 hr 6 minEp. 610

The Strong Towns Tension With YIMBYism

The Strong Towns approach to housing has some obvious tensions with NIMBYism, but what about YIMBYism? That’s the topic for discussion on the table for today’s episode of the Strong Towns Podcast, because while our approach has more in common with the YIMBY (“Yes in My Backyard”) crowd than differences, there are some nuances that are worth addressing. And if you want to take a serious deep dive into the Strong Towns approach to housing, then you’ll be glad to know that Escaping the Housing Trap...

Apr 22, 20241 hr 6 minEp. 609

Alex Alsup: How Much of the U.S.'s Housing Stock Is Locally Owned?

This week on the Strong Towns Podcast, host Chuck Marohn is joined by Alex Alsup of Regrid , an organization that, among other things, has put together the only 100% complete national parcel map for the United States . Alsup chats with us about this 10-year project and some of the data and analyses Regrid has gotten out of it—including what percentage of property in any given jurisdiction is locally owned, and the implications of these numbers. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Check out the national parcel...

Apr 15, 202445 minEp. 608

Where Strong Towns Stands As We Enter Another Election Year

As the U.S. enters another election year—one that is certain to be contentious—we know that many Americans are going to be engrossed in the conversation about national politics. And many of our readers want to know where Strong Towns stands on the issue. In this week’s episode of the Strong Towns Podcast , host Chuck Marohn responds to this question, and promises one thing above all else: we will remain dedicated to our mission, no matter what. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Strong Towns is a bottom-up m...

Apr 08, 202458 minEp. 607

Why We Need To Show Empathy Toward Drivers in Conversations About Street Safety

Bike Talk is a radio show dedicated to the idea that we need to prioritize bikes as a form of public transportation, and they recently invited Chuck to appear on an episode. It was a great conversation, and so we’re sharing that audio with you today here , as well. They discuss why it’s important to have empathy in discussions about transportation and street safety, and why leading with empathy toward drivers is a good strategy. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Listen to the original episode on Bike Talk ....

Mar 25, 202451 minEp. 605

Benjamin Herold: The Unraveling of America’s Suburbs

Benjamin Herold, author of Disillusioned: Five Families and the Unraveling of America’s Suburbs , joins host Chuck Marohn on this week’s episode of the Strong Towns Podcast . Disillusioned tells the story of five families from Chicago, Atlanta, Dallas, Los Angeles, and Pittsburg, all of whom moved to the suburbs in search of the American dream…but instead, they’re experiencing the decline of the suburbs, rather than the benefits that were initially sold to them. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES Check out D...

Mar 18, 202456 minEp. 604

What Is the Role of Philanthropy in Building Stronger Towns?

What’s the role of philanthropy when it comes to building strong towns? How do we get philanthropy involved, and how do we make good investments? How do we access federal programs and bigger resources effectively? This is a tension within our conversation, and to help us unpack it, we invited two experts who are well-aligned with these issues onto the podcast: Kelly Jin, the Vice President for Community and National Initiatives at the Knight Foundation (where she leads a $150 million active gran...

Mar 11, 202453 minEp. 603
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