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The Stone Chapel Podcast

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“The Stone Chapel Podcast” is a weekly podcast of the friends and staff of The Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center in Houston, Texas. It is hosted by David Capes, Director of Academic Programming of the Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center. David is an engaging host, a respected New Testament scholar, and the author of Rediscovering Paul and Matthew through Old Testament Eyes.  “The Stone Chapel Podcast” features theologians, scholars, and thought leaders from around the world for lively, informative, and educational discussions. With over 200 compelling, uplifting episodes that are valuable for all spiritually curious listeners, the Stone Chapel Podcast provides an unique, weekly refresh and renewal resource for pastors and church leaders. In case you're interested in going deeper and want more educational content, most of the Stone Chapel podcasts are associated with The Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center’s public lecture series, programs, and classes. Please visit our website for videos and panel discussions with many of the podcast visitors David has hosted, as well as all our resources and opportunities! You can find all “The Stone Chapel Podcast” episodes on your favorite podcast platform. “The Stone Chapel Podcast” is now part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network. Copyright Lanier Foundation
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Episodes

Encore: 'Jesus and the Powers' With N. T. Wright

This is an encore edition of an early episode of "The Stone Chapel Podcast." David Capes talks with N. T. Wright about his book, " Jesus and the Powers " (Zondervan). Wright and his co-author, Michael Bird, are deeply concerned about the political polarization in cultures now across the globe. And they are more disturbed with how Christians are responding in the midst of it. Wright and Bird address these issues with wisdom and theological clarity. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the Church...

Jul 15, 202525 minEp. 252

Bible Reading Is Up! With John Plake

Dr. John Plake has an important job with the American Bible Society. He is tracking the current up-tick in the purchase and use of the Bible in our culture. Why is it happening? Is it happening in places other than the USA. John joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to talk about some of these issues and more! "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network . For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-bibl...

Jul 08, 202523 minEp. 251

We're All Corinthians! With N.T. Wright

N. T. (Tom) Wright returns to the Lanier Theological Library and "The Stone Chapel Podcast." His topic this time is how we are all Corinthians. What does he mean by that? Well, stick around and see the challenges he issues to us who sit easily in our Western, comfortable churches. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network . For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-chapel-corinthians-nt-wright To listen to previous ...

Jul 01, 202520 minEp. 250

Salvation Wars With Matthew Bates

Matthew Bates returns to “The Stone Chapel Podcast” to discuss his new book: Beyond the Salvation Wars: Why Both Protestants and Catholics Must Reimagine How They Are Saved . Dr. Bates is a life-long Protestant who earned his PhD at Notre Dame and went on to teach for 14 years at Quincy University. So many great topics and angles accompany this book. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network . For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/po...

Jun 24, 202521 minEp. 249

More Men Than Women? With David Kinnaman

David Kinnaman, president of Barna, has some interesting and surprising things to share with the Stone Chapel audience regarding the in-depth " State of the Church " research. He joins David Capes on the podcast to talk about his upcoming visit to the library to speak, along with Ed Stetzer, Nicole Martin, and John Plake. For details about the event June 21, 2025, 5:30 to 9:00 pm, click here . "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network . For a transcript of this epis...

Jun 17, 202521 minEp. 248

Walk the Ancient Paths With James Hoffmeier

Dr. James Hoffmeier joined David Capes on “The Stone Chapel Podcast” to talk about his book, " The Prophets of Israel: Walking the Ancient Paths ." Hoffmeier came to the Lanier Theological Library to teach a course for the Lanier Certificate in Theology and Ministry on the prophets. In this podcast, he answers some basic questions about prophecy. If you’re interested in taking this course, consider signing up for the certificate program. For more information click here . "The Stone Chapel Podcas...

Jun 10, 202523 minEp. 247

'Thinning the Veil' With Shane Wood

Shane Wood did part of his research at the Lanier Theological Library as he was writing his new book, " Thinning the Veil: Encountering Jesus Christ in the Book of Revelation ." This young scholar is worth watching and following as he pulls back the curtain on a book that is often misunderstood or neglected. He joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to discuss aspects of his book and how thin the veil is between us and the world to come. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchL...

Jun 03, 202526 minEp. 246

The Stats Will Surprise You With Ed Stetzer

Ed Stetzer, dean of the School of Theology at Biola, joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to talk about new research that shows young men curious and returning to the faith (among other things). He and his friends—Nicole Martin of Christianity Today, David Kinnaman of Barna, and John Plake of the American Bible Society—are coming together at the Lanier Theological Library on June 21, 2025, to talk about the “State of the Church.” Registration is open at https://www.biola.edu/leadthewa...

May 27, 202518 minEp. 245

New Evidence About Jesus and Josephus With Tom Schmidt

Josephus, a Jewish historian born not long after Jesus’ crucifixion, may well have had connections to people who witnessed the “trial” of Jesus in Jerusalem. That is part of the findings of a new book written by Tom Schmidt (Oxford University Press, 2025). Schmidt, a historian of early Christianity, goes back to the Testimony of Flavius Josephus regarding Jesus of Nazareth (Antiquities 18.63-64) and interprets it against the exegetical grain of recent scholarship to give us a more robust and acc...

May 20, 202525 minEp. 244

The Riddles of Daniel With Aubrey Buster and John Walton

Drs. Aubrey Buster and John Walton have been hard at work for seven years writing a commentary on the book of Daniel. They join David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to talk about some of the key questions surrounding the book. Daniel is one of the most colorful books in the Old Testament. It is often misunderstood and misapplied. Buster and Walton will solve every riddle! "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network . For a transcript of this episode click here: h...

May 13, 202520 minEp. 243

She’s Not Who You Think With Jennifer Powell McNutt

Historian and Presbyterian church leader, Jennifer Powell McNutt, joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to discuss her recent book, " The Mary We Forgot: What the Apostle to the Apostles Teaches the Church Today " (BrazosPress). Mary Magdalene is one of the earliest followers of Jesus. Through the twists and turns of history, her backstory has been obscured. She’s not who you think. For McNuttshell Ministries, click here "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast N...

May 06, 202523 minEp. 242

What’s Missing in the Modern World? With Mike Woodruff

Mike Woodruff, Senior Pastor for Christ Church in Chicago, joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to talk about a unique ministry of their church, Lakelight Institute. The institute hosts events, talks, research, trips, and resources (web and print) to help serious Christians go deeper in their faith and love for God. For more information about Lakelight click here . For years, pastors and church leaders have been feeling the need to dumb things down. Mike and his congregation are seeki...

Apr 29, 202518 minEp. 241

It’s All About the Kids With Mark Lanier

Mark Lanier has written a series of devotional books on the Scriptures, and it all started with his five children. Now he turns his attention to his grandchildren (12 at the time of writing!) to write some special things for them in his devotional books. Listen to find out what it is. Perhaps Mark’s ideas will lead you to leave something behind for your children and grandchildren to inspire and thrill them. His most recent book is " New Testament Letters for Living ." "The Stone Chapel Podcast" ...

Apr 22, 202518 minEp. 240

Hazael, Action Hero With Lawson Younger

Dr. Lawson Younger is Professor Emeritus at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School outside Chicago, Illinois, and joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to discuss a little known, but extremely important adversary of Israel and Judah around the time of Elijah and Elisha. His name is Hazael, and he reigned over the Arameans in Damascus. He was a scourge to the Hebrew Kingdoms, but apparently God had a purpose for him. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network ....

Apr 15, 202520 minEp. 239

Who Did Paul Think He Was? With Scott Hafemann

Dr. Scott Hafemann, retired reader in New Testament from the University of St. Andrews, joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast." He was at the Lanier Library to teach a course for the Lanier Certificate in Theology and Ministry. His topic: Paul and his letters. In this podcast, they cover a lot of topics: new covenant, Paul’s thorn in the flesh, his suffering, the law, the role of the Spirit, faith, and Paul’s self- understanding. Among other books, Dr. Hafemann has written " The NIV App...

Apr 08, 202521 minEp. 238

'How Long, O Lord?' With Rico Villanueva

Filipino scholar, Federico “Rico” Villanueva, joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to talk about the tragic loss of lament in the church today. Everyone wants to come to church and be happy in Jesus, yet the reality is, a large portion of the people present are going through soul-wrenching hardships. What can we do for them? One-third of the Psalms are laments, and we need to recover those in our worship today to minister to those who are suffering and to deepen our own spiritual live...

Apr 01, 202521 minEp. 237

Did Scribes Copy the Bible Correctly? (Part 2) With Emanuel Tov

Emanuel Tov stops by for another episode of "The Stone Chapel Podcast." The scribes had an enormous and critical job to do. How well did they do it? If you missed last week’s podcast, you missed part one. Go back and listen to that now. Also, make sure you join us at the Lanier Theological Library on Saturday, April 7, 2025, for Emanuel Tov’s lecture, “The Scribes of Qumran.” Our website is www.laniertheologicallibrary.org "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network ....

Mar 25, 202519 minEp. 236

The Scribes of Qumran (Part 1) With Emanuel Tov

Legendary Dead Sea Scrolls expert, Emanuel Tov, joins David Capes again on "The Stone Chapel Podcast." He and his wife, Lika, are residents at the Lanier Theological Library in Houston, Texas. On this episode, he discusses the people who copied and created all the wonderful scrolls discovered in the Judean desert. He will lecture on April 5, 2025, at the library on “The Scribes of Qumran.” For more information, please consult www.laniertheologicallibrary.org . "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part ...

Mar 18, 202521 minEp. 235

The Untold Story (Part 2) With Frank Viola

Frank Viola is back this week with part two of his podcast with David Capes on The Stone Chapel Podcast. Frank has released a new book, "The Untold Story of the New Testament Church: Revised and Expanded." It is a terrific book that weds together the history and the letters in a fresh and reliable way. Frank’s website is frankviola.org . "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network . For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode...

Mar 11, 202518 minEp. 234

The Untold Story (Part 1) With Frank Viola

More than 20 books and 1000 articles into a writing and speaking career for the church, Frank Viola joins David Capes to talk about his book, " The Untold Story of the New Testament ." It’s a book that situates the many letters of the New Testament within a plausible history of the times. Frank has conducted meticulous research for decades to tell the untold story. All of Frank’s books, articles, and other great content (much of it FREE!) can be found at frankviola.org . "The Stone Chapel Podcas...

Mar 04, 202526 minEp. 233

'Israel’s Lord' (Part 2) With David Wilhite and Adam Winn

David Wilhite and Adam Winn are back for part two of their conversation with David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast." They have written an important book that explores the nature of Judaism at the time of Jesus and the early church. In particular, they are interested in what Jews thought about God’s Names, attributes, and his oneness. A good deal of this conversation is given to the mysterious figure of the Son of Man. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network . F...

Feb 25, 202522 minEp. 232

'Israel’s Lord' (Part 1) With David Wilhite and Adam Winn

How did the earliest Christians, who were Jews, who believed in one God, come to identify Jesus with Israel’s Lord? Or did they? Are we misunderstanding them altogether? These are some of the questions David Wilhite and Adam Winn have set out to answer in a new and upcoming series at Fortress Press. Their first book is, " Israel’s Lord: Yahweh as 'Two Powers' in Second Temple Literature ." This is the first of two podcasts on the topic. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Pod...

Feb 18, 202520 minEp. 231

Savoring Scripture With Andrew Abernethy

Dr. Andrew Abernethy, a Hebrew and Old Testament specialist at Wheaton College, joins David Capes on the Stone Chapel Podcast to talk about his recent book, " Savoring Scripture: A Six Step Guide to Studying the Bible ." As a scholar, Andy often writes books and articles for people inside the academy. In this book, he takes insights he’s gained on how to help laypeople read the Bible more effectively as a means of savoring God and his Word. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders...

Feb 11, 202521 minEp. 230

The Bible’s Impact on Early America With Cole Feix

On the second floor of the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C., there is an exhibit on the impact of the Bible in America. Cole Feix, a pastor in Oklahoma, was recently the guide for David Capes and nearly 40 college students from many Ivy League schools. The artifacts tell a compelling story of how influential the Bible was in early, colonial America. Cole joined David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to tell some of those same stories. "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLea...

Feb 04, 202528 minEp. 229

Revelation: Theology for Everyone (Part 2) With Malcolm Yarnell

Dr. Malcolm Yarnell, Research Professor of Theology at Southwestern Seminary, joins David Capes again on "The Stone Chapel Podcast." His topic today is “revelation,” the idea that God acts and speaks in such a way as to disclose himself to humanity. He’s written about this in the second half of his book, " God: Theology for Every Person ." For more books by Malcolm Yarnell: www.malcolmyarnell.com "The Stone Chapel Podcast" is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network . For a transcript of this e...

Jan 28, 202519 minEp. 228

God: Theology for Everyone (Part 1) With Malcolm Yarnell

Malcolm Yarnell (DPhil, Oxford) joins David Capes on the Stone Chapel Podcast to talk about his book, " God: Theology for Every Person ." This is part one of a two part conversation about this book. Next week part two. Dr. Yarnell insists that everyone is a theologian at some level and theology does not have to be difficult or abstract. His project is about helping people think well and correctly about God. For more books by Malcolm Yarnell: www.malcolmyarnell.com The Stone Chapel Podcast is par...

Jan 21, 202522 minEp. 227

Exodus in the New Testament With Seth Ehorn

Did you know Exodus is in the New Testament? Not all of it, of course. It’s the second book of the Old Testament. But New Testament writers often quote from it, allude to it, and take some of its key themes as a way to describe how God was working in, through, and by Jesus. Seth Ehorn has edited an important book of the same title as part of the " Library of New Testament Studies: Exodus in the New Testament. " Seth Ehorn joined David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to talk about his book. H...

Jan 14, 202517 minEp. 226

The Humble Skeptic With Shane Rosenthal

Shane Rosenthal is The Humble Skeptic and he joined David Capes recently on The Stone Chapel Podcast to talk about his own podcast and website. You can find it at humbleskeptic.com . Shane lost faith in his atheism and became a Christian many years ago and turned his love and gifts for radio into a fantastic radio/program. It’s NPR, only better. The Stone Chapel Podcast is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network . For a transcript of this episode click here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-e...

Jan 07, 202519 minEp. 225

The Mother of Jesus: Mary With Nancy Dawson

In Matthew’s genealogy (ch. 1), Mary the Mother of Jesus is the last of five women mentioned by the evangelist. As Jesus’ mother, she has a special role in the plan of redemption. Nancy Dawson joins David Capes today to talk about this remarkable woman. Some Protestants mute her because some other Jesus followers hold her in such high regard. But the Scriptures give her a large voice (Luke 1-2) at the occasion of the Incarnation. Dr. Dawson is author of an important book, "All the Genealogies of...

Dec 17, 202419 minEp. 224

The Grandmothers of Jesus: Bathsheba With Nancy Dawson

Scientist and genealogist, Dr. Nancy Dawson, is back on this episode of The Stone Chapel Podcast to talk about another “grandmother” of Jesus. Bathsheba is not named in Matthew’s genealogy of Jesus (Matthew 1). She is referred to as “the wife of Uriah.” David fathered Solomon “through the wife of Uriah.” Matthew’s comment on the genealogy echoes the scandalous episode in King David’s life when he took the wife of another man and then had him killed. Jesus’ ancestry is not squeaky clean. No, his ...

Dec 10, 202418 minEp. 223
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