Interview Only: Candace Owens Unfiltered

Yesterday, I had the opportunity to speak with the one and only Candae Owens. For those of you who don't know, she's a far right to pundit who's not afraid to speak a mind on a variety of topics, even if her stance is controversial. She's an African American with conservative views. They usually don't sit well with a whole lot of people, and I want to talk about that before we play

I say all of that to say on this show, this platform.

I pride myself on being fair minded. I'm not an officionado when it comes to politics. I'm just a conscientious observer. I read the news, I watch stuff on television. I see what I see. I wonder about what's going on based on the facts that are disseminated to us. I'm able to deduce balls and strikes and how to call it, and I go from there. With some people, that's not good enough, my response is you're going to have to

I don't agree. With them.

In the case of Candace Owens, we're gonna do that. I got off for twenty five minutes. She's already promised that she's coming back on and we're gonna have a more lengthier discussion about all the things that entails Candace Owens, what makes her who she is.

But why would I be interested in talking to her?

It's not just because she's opposite to say, somebody like a Roland Martin or an Arreva Martin, who have been analysts, left wing analysts.

I might add that blessed me with their.

Presence on this show, but it's also to pique my curiosity and it edify me to some degree. You see, when I think about blacks who are conservatives, I see a guy like Officer Tatum out there. I want to meet that man. I don't want to talk to that man. In terms of black conservatives, like an Officer Tatum, like a Canvas Owned, and various others. They piqued my interest. Do you know why? Because they deviate from the norm.

The people in a black community are going.

To vote democratically. Data has always unnerved me for a few reasons. Number one, I remember when to B. Johnson was quoted as saying, before nineteen sixty four civil rights legislation was placed in the law. Put this through, Push this legislation through. It will have the negroes vote for us.

For the next two hundred years.

And I think about how divided society can be, how divided communities can be. You can be Hispanic, you could be Dominican, you could be Cuban, you could be Guatemali, you could be Venezuelan, and you could be Puerto Rican, you could be Mexican. It doesn't matter. You can't go to all of them and say, oh, excuse me, we got their vote.

You can't take them for granted.

You can't go to white too, are Catholics, white to are Jewish and say oh.

We got their vote.

You can't go to the Asian community and say, oh we got their vote.

We got that a lot.

But somehow, some way you could say that about us. So, on one hand, we have a party which is a democratic party, which at least some people in the black community believe has taken us for granted because they know they.

Got to vote.

And then you got folks on the side of the Conservatives who's saying, there's no way in hell were going to get the black vote, so why worry about them? And as a result, we end up being a disenfranchised community.

That's the argument we were making before this passed election back eight years ago.

Nine years ago, Trump looked at America, Black America in particular, and said, what do you have to lose? Fast forward to twenty twenty four. He didn't have to say that, because we saw a Democratic Party leaning significantly to the progressive left with the rhetoric they were spewing, and it

And with young voters.

And for the first time in twenty years, a Republican won the popular vote, not just the electoral college vote. Sometimes that should give you cause to pause and to stand up and pay attention and no wonder what's the.

Other side thinking.

Rather than challenge them on every single thing they think, feel and spill, step back, simply ask the question and listen to what they have to say, knowing there's another day to get into a whole bunch of other stuff.

That's what I decided to do with Candice Owens. Say what you will about her.

She's smart as a whip, highly intelligent, very articulate, and doesn't play. There will be times in the future where hopefully she and I can get together and butt heads over one issue or another, but this interview wasn't the time for that. It was my first time ever meeting her and speaking to her to my knowledge, and I simply wanted to ask some questions out of curiosity, to get her response and let that response be heard to the masters, no judgment, no pushback. There would be another

I'm just interviewing.

I'm just listening and hearing from the other side.

Per Se. Buckle up with the seat belt for this.

One, because my next guest is considered a controversial figure known for her provocative statements and conservative views. She's built a successful media brand, which includes a popular podcast and a new book called Make Them a Sandwich Why Real Women Don't Need Fake Feminism. Despite facing criticism and controversy, she remains unapologetic and continues to push boundaries with her content and her opinions. Please welcome to The stephen A. Smith Show, the One and Only Candace Owens.

Candice, how are you? Pleasure to meet you? How's everything?

It is great and I'm actually so excited. I kept this from your producer because it's too good for me not to have told you as we're running live, because this is a full circle moment. But I've actually met you before. Okay, and my ex boyfriend many years ago was a huge stephen A Smith. So we watched you and Skip every single morning, and then we went to a Knicks game, and.

He was like, do you think you can get a hand get him to give you a handshake?

And you were coming in under and like after the game had ended, you were obviously in the front.

We were not that close. And I was.

Like, Stephen I Smith, Stephen I Smith, please please shake.

My hand, and then he caught it on camera and then you gave.

Me a high five, and it basically made it made our whole life, just.

So you know, well, listen, I'm glad we have a farm memory together. But it's a pleasure to meeting you. And just for the record, you are not in enemy territory, so I've.

Got a lot of questions to ask you.

But before I even get into all of that, I hear congratulations as an order mother of three expecting a fourth child.

Is that true?

That is correct? Eight more weeks to go here. So it's just a factory over here. And thank you very much. It's a blessing.

Absolutely congratulations to you and you and you and your hubby and your family and everything like that. Wishing you nothing but the best. Let's get right to it, Candice. First things first, you know, when you saw the election results take fold and you saw Donald Trump win the election, popular vote, electoral college vote, et cetera, et cetera. What were the thoughts that ran through your mind when you saw the results transpiring?

You know, I think that the first thing I thought was that old school expression, it's the economy stupid. You know, we've done a lot and everyone's screaming at each other all the time. There's been all these social movements and key versus her and black versus white. But at the end of the day, people just weren't living well under the Biden regime. I call it a regime, but it it gets down to how was I living? What were the gas prices? How expensive are groceries? Are you willing

Do you know what I mean? Like the media constantly selling.

This guy's this, this guy's that, she's this, she's that. I think we're all just tired and that's kind of a good thing.

Do you believe that Donald Trump won the election or that the progressive left and their thought process, their policy, some of the things that they were spewing. It was more product of them losing. That's what I've been saying. It wasn't about him winning. It was about America saying, nah, he's closer to normal than what the hell we're hearing over here.

We don't like this, and that's what transpire. What do you think it was?

You are completely on the money with that.

It was really more that the left lost, and it was a weird. It was very strange to watch Kamala run. I will say that because she really only ran for one hundred days, right, Trump had been running throughout four years, basically kind of up a loss in twenty twenty, and she kind of just comes in and.

It's almost like a coronation, which I think.

Was disrespectful to the left leading voter base, Like it was just, well, he has kind of said he's knighted me, and therefore I am the person that you should be electing. And she didn't really work for and rather was I think quite accusatory. If you don't elect her, it's because you have an issue with women. I don't think Obama's speech to the brothers, the quote unquote brothers helped him any.

You know.

I want to transition to Trump back to Trump in this regard.

I we just saw it a world just so it wasn't a press conference or anything like that. I don't call it that.

Him with Ukrainian President Zelensky and how he went at him and what have you now Zalinski. If I remember correctly, you didn't speak too highly of him, am I. I want to make sure I'm calling you act accurately. You called them a homosexual actor?

Is that true? Did you call him that?

I also just called him the neighborhood crackhead kind of just goes around asking for money.

I've called him a welfare queen. Ghetto. This is the thing. The media kind of had me depict it throughout.

BLM as this person that uses these words to describe black people.

I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, let's be very clear.

When I am calling somebody like Zelensky a welfare queen, there's a reason for that. You come here with your handout, asking, asking, asking, making demands. It's funny because I was having a discussion with my husband about this, and you know, it's people that tend to need the most that make these sorts

His wife is shopping in Paris.

The oligarchs in Ukraine are all buying yachts, and yeah, I have absolutely no respect for him, but I want to say I have not respected that man since day one.

This is not something that's new. I just I just saw him coming.

It's not something that's new. But what about Trump and Dvance and how they conducted up sols. You and I might disagree on this particular issue because I don't disagree with what you're saying in terms of I was on the record saying, listen, you're coming with your hand out.

You need money. You might you might not want to be confrontation.

You might want to be a bit more diplomatic Zalisky, because you're the one that's in need. And Trump wasn't wrong when he said, oh, you don't have any of the cause. You don't have any of the cause. The flip side to it, however, is that the press conference in.

The Oval Office.

We know if this is the White House, this isn't, this isn't some place in Ukraine. And he's got broken English, and you got the Vice president interrupted them, you got them.

I thought, somewhat bullying him.

To some degree. I just didn't think it was necessary. It was a good look. That's where I'm coming from. Am I wrong and feeling Yeah?

No, I think you're perfectly.

I mean, these are your feelings, they're valid, right, if that's how you felt for me, I felt it was refreshing. I'm so tired of politics. I know they always button it up for us. They're constantly telling us, oh this, and saying things that sound good but don't actually result in good things. And I think it was sort of the frustration of how much he has taken from America to not come with some respect.

And I likened it too.

Even when you go to your granddad's house and it's your birthday, your mom kind of makes you.

Wear something special.

You know he's going to give you a car and slip some cash in there, one hundred dollars. Granddad's always good for that, and you just come with some decorum and some respect. This dude is wearing he has been wearing military fatigues for like five years. Now, okay, put on a suit. As soon as he gets out of the car. Trump's like, well, he's drum addressed up.

This should let you know.

It's just signal to the public that what he's doing is an act. Why give me a scenario, a reason why he can't put on a suit, even if you're in the midst of a war, Why can't you put on a suit?

When you're coming to ask for money.

Well, because he wants people to see him as a guy that's downtrodden in the trenches.

And he's not that.

This guy's been on the cover of Vanity Fair, he's been on the cover of Vogue, He's been on the cover of Forbes. He's doing photo shoots, he did a three hour podcast with Lex Friedman. He asked and was declined a spot to go to the Oscars a couple of years ago.

And so this is making a mockery. It's just making them put on a suit.

See you.

Now, this is why, this is why people gotta be careful about messing with you, Because I was.

Getting ready to disagree with you until.

You threw out those last thing. I didn't know he tried to go to the Oscars. I didn't know he tried to be uncomfort I didn't know that stuff. Candas, I honestly didn't know. Okay, that does change it a little bit.

It's a literal actor, by the way. You know that that I know.

That, I know that, I know what.

I will say this on any sympathy for the fact that Russia did attack his nation.

I mean that that there's some sympathy for that.

Right, we see the rubble, we see the catastrophe that is Ukraine. We've seen Putin bombing them for crying no, and we've seen that happen, right.

Yeah.

So the thing for me is, and the reason why I say that I've been I've had this opinion since the very beginning, is I don't rely on politicians.

I think all politicians lie.

And so I was reading the transcripts leading up to this moment of Putin's speeches and Biden's speeches and trying to discern what the truth was, and Putin was saying, you guys gave us assurances that NATO was not going to expand one inch eastward into our territory. Essentially, NATO is a military. We were putting a military on his border.

Now?

All of a sudden, we're saying that Ukraine is going to join NATO, and he's saying this is unacceptable.

America can't keep changing its mind.

And so when I was able to validate what he said and to read the speeches, you cannot walk away from that without an understanding that we are the aggressors. Everything that we say Russia is doing, recreating the Soviet Union.

We are doing that. What is the European Union? What is NATO?

And we've been getting away for it for too long under this guise of quote unquote spreading democracy. So I fundamentally disagreed with what I saw as Western propaganda trying to paint Puntin as a monster for holding us to our promises and not telling the public that he just randomly woke up one day and just said I want you know, I want to do hood rests up with my friends and he went into Ukraine.

That's not that's a fairy tale. That's not what happened.

And not beyond that, like you saw when he sat down with Tucker Carlson, he asked to join NATO himself. Why are we not having a productive relationship with Russia.

I call that Cold War hangover.

People that grew up under their desks afraid of a nuclear bomb can never see Russia outside of being villainous and quite frankly, I think Zelensky is a He suspended elections, he's locked down churches, he's locked up nuns.

I'm a Christian. I don't like this guy at all.

Can as always being quite honest, I get that part. Let me transition to you, specifically to get to the real reason I wanted you on this podcast. First, before I even get into that, I want to ask you. I know your voice is very, very powerful. For those of you who don't know, top ten on Spotify, I mean, you're one of the top podcasters in the nation, if not the world. I know everybody tries to listen to you,

Than it was right before the election.

Am I wrong in saying that? And if I'm writing saying that why was that?

Yeah, so there were some life changes.

Obviously, I was pretty publicly fired, so there was a lot of things that I was just doing, trying to start my own business and to get back onto the airwaves. But going back to what I said earlier, I have had sort of a fatigue with politics, you know. I was quite bored really with the same arguments. I need a little bit of a challenge, and for me, I just I like people to argue things honestly. Whatever your opinion is, it's totally fine, but just let's argue honestly

Oh, everyone who supports him is a racist, is sexist. I'm just bored, you know.

And I've always, by the way, been very passionate about culture, vaccines. I'm also a mom now, so in the beginning I was married, I had no children. Now my interests have naturally shifted since becoming a parent, and so I think people are seeing more sides of me.

And in many ways, I'm growing up.

Publicly, and it's been refreshing, you know, refreshing to kind of take people on the journey and to show people that I'm not just a Trump supporter, which the media did a very good job of painting that caricature of me.

You don't think that's an act. You don't think that's an ad.

I don't want to call it a caricature, but you don't think that's an accurate description of you as being a Trump supporter.

No, I am a Trump supporter, but I'm not just a Trump supp And I think in the beginning they kind of made it seem like I was always angry, always talking bad about black people, which is like any person that listens to my podcast, white people get it ten times worse. But the media will only pluck a clip when I'm speaking about a black issue and then it's, oh,

It was completely wild. It was out of it was out of control.

Well, listen, this is the thing, and this is the thing that gets me in trouble because obviously me being a black man, b being a centrist sort of center left as opposed to center right. I've been one that was inclined to vote democratic, you know, at least for the presidency for the vast majority of my life. If it was anybody other than Trump, I think I would have voted conservative this time around, I'm sort of becoming even more enlightened.

I'm gonna use that word.

Because I was so disgusted with the left and what I saw. My patience is run thin at times. And then I've listened to you over the years and the things that I didn't like is like, will you just describe what people would say about you? And I'm saying, well, wait a minute, is she wrong? What is she saying that you disagree? How Come you can't say you disagree with and make your points as to why like she does,

Nobody better how asked this question than you.

Honestly, it's a hell of a lot easier than it was when I first got into this back in twenty fifteen, because people that was the first time they saw Trump and people just could not see past how could this possibly happen. I think the media had a stronger hold on people's minds then that it does now.

Now we've seen the explosion of independent media.

People are able to get their voices out outside of the New York Times and CNN and Fox News, and that's helped tremendously to defeat all of these media caricatures that are being created.

But I find it now it's pioneering.

To put it in a nice way, and I think it's the most rewarding thing ever, when what I have found is that if you just stand for truth, even in the beginning when it's really hard and people say terrible things about you and I've been called everything you could possibly imagine, then there's that moment, even if it takes years, where they they do come back and they

You know, I wasn't. My sisters did not like where I was at when I started.

How many how many? How many sisters do you have?

I have two sisters and they're they're my best friends. So one is a year older, ones a year younger.

So I grew up. Were like a trio.

They stay with you, they gives you, they stand with you. Huh.

Well, they just didn't really care to me. That's Candice.

I've always been different, you know, and they didn't know what I was on or what I was thinking. And now this last election, they voted for Trump, which is crazy, Like that means they were fully on the left and they just sort of saw it, and so it's just been cool to see that and they now like my podcast.

Before they didn't even listen to it, but we always had.

I grew up obviously in a not obviously, but my family's has a great sense of humor. And that was one of the worst things they hated about BLM is that I've always thought that black people culturally like we're like, we're the funniest, We're the funniest. You always want to go listen to Chris Rock, Chris Tucker, and you saw that removal where everything was just taken so seriously, were so easily offended, And I hated it that I thought the best parts of what the black culture represented to

You know, it's always a joke.

Yeah, And I get it, And I guess for me because I think about it, and I remember when you showed up.

I believe it was in Paris.

You were with Kanye West, and you were wearing the White Lives Matters, White Lives Matter shirt and what have you.

And I said, damn, And I was upset. I was actually upset at you.

And here's why, Candas, because I looked at it and I said, no, don't give the ammunition.

Don't give the ammunition.

You can sit up there and you can talk to folks about your views, what you know and educate folks without them being closed minded because they saw something and visualized something and automatically deemed that you were.

Against us as a people.

So I mean, as you reflect on a moment like that and you talk about the black community and politics, how.

Do you feel, how do you gauge what's the.

Right thing to do and what's not the right thing to do?

You know, for me, the discussion and polite discussion, it doesn't work. I have found that you can go back and watch me on stage with TI and Killer Mike, and it doesn't work with the black community. And I have a theory on this, and I think partially it's because we have this instance of father absence, but that we.

There's a lot of attitudes.

There's a lot of attitudes, and if you try to come politely, you're just gonna get disrespected. And so in terms of the white Lives Matter shirt, first off, Kanye, that's how he communicates. He communicates with art. That's like, this was Kanye's thing that I was stepping into. But I understood what he was saying there because he is someone that does not like no one puts Kanye in the corner. No one tells Kanye what he has to be.

Your life matters.

Too, Like oh yeah, like white white lives matter too, and I want you to know that white lives matter, your life matters. He never liked that, uh yeah, the patronization of it. And so I and I felt the same way, and we communicate differently. I usually am using more bombastic words, but that moment, to me, especially as someone who grew up and really Kanye's music kind of gave me the courage to be myself, to have to be an archetype of what a black woman should be.

It was.

It was a moment for me that I reflect on very fondly. And yeah, it broke the internet and there it started a lot of conversations. But imagine if black people were just like, yeah, every time I saw a white person, I'm with your white life matters.

It's just there's something about it. I just don't like. It wasn't from me.

You brought up the use of bombastic words.

You used that with George Floyd as well, who was murdered by a police officer in Minnesota, and obviously a lot of people in the black community had a real problem with you as it pertained to that.

That brings me to this question, when you take these positions, does it enter your mind.

I don't want to use the word vitriol because I think that's a bit too strong and that's unfair.

To you and I don't want to do that. But when you consider the fact that so.

Many people in the black community have voted democratic senis the civil rights legislation in nineteen sixty four.

Remember what Linda B.

Johnson said that, you know, did you pass this legislation and we'll have the negroes vote for us for the next two hundred years.

Remember that statement. I know, I remember that statement. I'm wondering, because of.

Your knowledge of politics, your obvious knowledge of the issues, when you speak on these things and you take positions about you take such positions, particularly if it's antithetical or the antithesis of what the black community will point to, do you think about it and do so on purpose? Because dare I say you're disgusted with us as a community for being hoodwinked by the Democratic Party in your eyes?

Is that possible?

So that's a very good question, and disgusted would not be the right term for it. Frustrated, yes, and constantly trying to give people the facts so that they understand and that we Lyndon Bange Johnson was an avowed racist and he hated us, and yet we are doing everything that he wanted us to do.

We are reacting emotionally and not rationally. We seem to be a stereotype of irrationality.

Actually, all we have to do is make them feel something and they won't react.

And I want to be clear, it's not just Black Americans.

The Me Too movement was another manifestation of that very you know, That's why I'm doing with Harvey Weinstein series.

But what really does upset me about the black.

Community is that the manner in which we defend criminals, you will not find this in any other community. Okay, so black, black, white, white person gets shot killed unarmed. They're not coming out. White people are not coming out and burning down their own neighborhoods.

Right, they're gonna be.

Did you see the black community attack me for going off about oh JB is celebrated.

Did you see that?

Yeah, yeah it is.

They conditioned us to actually defend the worst in our communities.

They just will let it go.

You think Chinese people are gonna run outside if they're like, well this and this guy was high on fentanel, he gotten to brush up with police officers and he died. Chinese people will be like especially Asian Asian moms are just dead serious.

They'd be like, you idiot, you know, good for you, So you're you're an embarrassment. Never come home. This is how Asian women are.

They have a standard you think Jewish people are coming outside and gonna, you know, rally around, and you know they all know that they think of as like a natural process. We don't want to associate with that. And we have the exact opposite mindset. And when I say the exact opposite, I mean also the reverse of that, being that the most educated and the most accomplished people in our community in terms of their intellect.

We reject. How can we ever get ahead?

Right?

Oh, Conda, Liz a Rice. No, she's a trader. She's an uncle Tom. Clarence Thomas, Supreme Court Justice, He's a trader.

He's an uncle Tom.

Doctor Ben Carson, a literal brain surgeon. Black people will call him stupid.

It's crazy.

So there's no way Black America can get ahead with that, With that backwards mindset where you put you put George Floyd on a T shirt and you denigrate and disrespect someone like Clarence Thomas.

I'm just not with it. You know, you got a.

New platform called Club Canvas, and I'm wondering how important is you.

I know it's you're.

Going to speak your truth. You have proven that time and Tom and Tom again. Okay, but in the process of doing. So, as you have this new platform, how important is it for you, if at all, to reach and resonate with the black community or to really really provoke change all across the board, particularly in the United States of America.

Where do you lie with that?

Yef?

The number one thing is for me to reach people who want to hear the truth, and so that comes in all different shapes and sizes and colors, and our demographics have really changed or just it's very mixed people all around the world like I have. Shockingly, I would say in Africa they absolutely love me. I mean, like the amount of Nigerian to listen to my podcast Daily Uganda. So it's not a color thing. It's important for me to get information out there I don't think would otherwise

And so that's really fun that we meet every two weeks.

And so it's you just getting kind of whatever goes on in this headquarters of crazy.

It's all happening at club Candice.

Make them a sandwich. Why real women don't need fake feminism? Explain that title, please.

We just need to destroy the feminist movement. It's just so toxic. And I think that on the heels of Kamala's loss. And you know this, women are unhappy because they're being told to compete with men.

We are not like men.

We are not built like men biologically, mentally, physically, we are just not men. And the idea that to be equal in society I have to have the same aspirations as a man is going to be something that makes women chronically unhappy, which is what we're dealing with today and learning the real history of feminism and I'm mimicking

You got to defend men.

Yeah, you go, hey, listen, I'm not compleatly. I'm not complay about that matter a little bit, al right. You reach interviewed former Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein from prison. Why did you want to talk to him and what was the most surprising thing you.

Got from it?

I have been a hater of the me two movementsince Stay one, even before I had sons and now I have three. I knew that we need due process and watching men lose their entire lives on the basis of an allegation, and I could have literally ruined your life, Stephen.

I could have been like he touched my.

Hand at that NIXT game and I remember this and cro you've been done, canceled over forever. And that's wrong, okay, because women lie, men lie, women lie, facts don't lie, and we need due process. And so the Harvey Weinstea case, someone brought it to me and said, take a look at it.

And I actually thought he was.

Guilty when I first got on the phone with him in prison and were totally on different sides of the political spectrum. But a friend had reached out and said, I think you'll be the only person that will actually take a look at this and tell the truth. And I've just always been committed to telling the truth and

And so I'm really excited about bringing that series for it.

Got you before I let you get on out of here.

You know, my producers and my issue mispronounced Kamala Harris's name twice.

I want to make sure you didn't do that on purpose.

No, I just don't know how what is it? Is it?

Kamala, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, Kamala.

Hass That's what I said. I said Kamala this right.

I'm just well, don't worry about it. It's okay, It's all right, you said Kamala, but don't worry about it in terms of me.

She's got an issue.

I got you.

Listen, I know you gotta go. Thank you for your time. I just want to say one thing to you. I've interviewed a lot of liberals on this show. I'm telling the conservatives they're welcome on the show too. If I'm wrong, correctly, if I'm right, agree with me, I have no I'm not in this game contrary to what they've been right about it. I like being fair minded and giving everybody an equal platform. Rest themselves, and I appreciate you taking

Thank you so much.

I would love to come back.

Like I said, this feels so full circle to me, from the high five to this, so thank you so much.

Works for me. You take care of yourself all the best. I want to get in to what we just heard from Candice Hounds. Okay, be clear, I'm fully aware. You heard her comments about Kanye, you heard her answering my question, you heard the way she answered my question about George Floyd.

Absolutely?

Are I feel she's that way unnecessarily so? Yeah, Even she acknowledged she just don't have time, the mother three, expecting a fourth kid, preoccupied with a lot of things that occupy ourselves in life, and she don't have patience intolerance for nonsense and games. That's how she feels. Everybody has their feelings. We have a right to disagree. And again, when we have a lengthier discussion, I will most certainly

I got that, and I appreciate it, because.

Here's what I want everybody to understand, and I want us to understand that we'll never get far till we learn to do this, no matter what our emotional state of mind is, no matter how turned off we might be over the things that people say and a manner.

In which they say it. Yes it's true. Every truth ain't meant to be heard. Yes it's true.

Sometimes it is about the way you say something instead of what you're just saying.

But far more often than not, the truth is supposed to usurp everything.

And when that young lady speaks, don't even think about challenging her intelligence. Don't even think about challenging her ability to articulate her point of view. You better know what the hell you're talking about when you come at her. That's what I take away, just as much as anything else. I can't wait until she and I sit face to face one day and volley back and forth about what we feel, what we believe, what we stand for, and why. Cause I'm certainly different than her when it comes to

Deal with that. If not, I get the impression she will make you