Your boy stephen A. Smith one on one with Candice Owens. Do I really need to say anything else?
Steven A. Smith Show in the house. You know what time it is. What's up with Ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome to the latest edition of The Steven Nate Smith Show, coming at you as I love to do at the very least three times a week over the digital airways of YouTube and of course our Heart Radio.
As always, I.
Like to pause to take a moment to thank my subscribers and followers to continue to support the show the millions of downloads we received over the last few months courtesy of iHeart Radio. Not to mention, though more than one point twenty four million subscribers over the digital airways of YouTube, the show continues to grow and grow and grow. If it were not for your support, it wouldn't happen. So I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Keep the love coming, and I'm gonna keep on coming.
To continue to like and follow the show, just click the bell and get notified for all of our newest content, and you too shall be considered the latest member of the Stephen A.
Smith Show family.
And while you're doing that, please make sure to pick up a copy of my New York Times bestselling book, Straight Shooter, a Memoir of Second Chances and First Takes, now in paperback. Just go straight shootobook dot com to get yourself copy. Once again, that would be straight shoot a book dot com to get yourself a copy.
Me now, and then.
I do a show and I sit down, and it's really not much for me to say, because the words coming out of somebody else's mouth is incredibly potent, obviously controversial, definitely disagreeable in a lot of people's eyes. But nevertheless, you find yourself edified and intrigue all at the same time because you want to listen and you want to learn more, and it certainly encourages you to hear from the other side. And that's what today's show is about.
You know.
My guest today is a woman by the name of Candace Owens, married with four children, very very popular conservative pundit has been for years. She's been incredibly controversial along the way in the eyes of a lot of people. She has spoken out of against the B two movement, she has spoken out against Black Lives Matter, she has spoken out against some people within the conservative community. She definitely has made her voice heard about what she believes as it pertains to the Democratic Party.
The list goes on and on. You've heard of.
Blexit, which she's created when she created years ago.
You've heard of other things that she has done.
She's the best selling author as well, and she has a very popular podcast that's now eclipsed more than four million subscribers. But she's not a fan favorite in the eyes of a lot of people, and in this particular day and age, certainly not anybody from the Jewish community in light of her comments about Israel, specifically the leadership
of Prime Minister Benjamin net in Yahoo. She has spoken out fervently and feverishly on many many occasions, and with this sit down interview without much prompting, she certainly didn't hesitate to do so this particular moment in time. And as I think about that, I think about all the things that I want to discuss with her. I think about the controversial issues and challenges that she has faced.
I think about her views about Christianities, her views about politics, her thoughts on immigration, and how these views has led to her life being threatened. All of these are things that I was looking forward to talking to Candice Owens about It's not the first time I've spoken to her.
I sincerely doubt if it will be the last.
Candice Owens with Stephen A. Smith up next. Trust me, you don't want to miss this. All right, folks, I need you all to stop what you're doing and listen up right now. You know I love this time of year. The NBA Finals are in full effect, and with all this action jumping off to Steven D. Smith, Show wants to make sure you take advantage of it all. That's why we've partnered with Prize Picks, the best place to
win cash while watching sports. The app is really easy to use, you know, just pick more or less on a few player stats and you can win up to two thousand times your cash on a single lineup.
Best of all, Prize.
Picks will give you fifty dollars when you play your first five dollar lineup would lose. You'll get fifty bucks for playing, so use promo code sas and download the app now again, Download the app and use code sas to get fifty dollars instantly after your first five dollar lineup.
Priz Picks, Hey, Hey, rant your game.
The Oklahoma City Thunder lead the series three to two against the Indiana Pacers, which will head back to Indiana for tomorrow night's Game six. So I'll be giving you my picks for Game six. So let's start right now. First up, we'll Shay gil just Alexander score more or less than thirty three and.
A half points.
He's shave butter, as my colleague Malik Malika Andrews coined, Okay, Shae Butter, He's gonna do his thing now. The Indiana pace has showing an inability to stop this brother's averaging over thirty or forty six percent shooting, particularly over the last three games. I see more of the same. I'm gonna go with more on this one. Next up, will Jalen Williams score more or less than twenty three and a half points? Did you just see him drop forty?
Did you just see him get delaying at will? Did you just see the fact that he's unguardable by anybody on Indiana? Have you seen his jump shot of starting the flow now after coming into game five shooting twenty one percent from three point range. I'm gonna go with more on this one because I think Jay Williams is flowing right now.
No doubt about it. Next up, will.
Pascal Siakam scored more or less than twenty one points.
He has shown up.
He has shown up for the Indiana Pacers, especially with Halliburton being out, You're gonna have to use him as a four point even more. He's got to be your number one offensive option. I think Ricarlile knows that. As the coach of the Indiana Pacers. I think he'll get him the ball more.
And I think.
Pascal Siakam will answer the call on his home turf. He's gonna score more than twenty one points in game six. And finally, when aaron NEI Smith score more or less than eleven points, I'm gonna go with more of this as well. For the same reasons haller Burton being hampered. He's not gonna be out, but he's got that cash trained. MRI is showing us that. So bottom line is he's gonna be hampered, to say the least.
TJ.
Mcconald's gonna come in off the bench. He's gonna be the little engine that could to do his thing. But in the end, if you're the Indiana Paces, it's gonna have to win by committee.
That's what you're gonna have to do so.
Obie Topping is gonna have some say, Matthoin Benedict Mathermin is gonna have some say. All right, them Hard is gonna have some say. But the top two scoring options for the Indiana Pacers should be Pascal Siakam and of course Nie Smith themselves.
So I'm gonna go with more on this one.
So the rehash, No, that's more fashe Gil just Alexander, more for Jalen Williams, more for Pascal Siakam and more for Aaron Neith Smith. We love saying more on Prospects because that's about more money in your pocket. And by the way, go to Prospects app and check out the steven A. Smith Show Community play. It's boosted twenty five percent.
You heard me. Welcome back to the steven A. Smith Show.
My guest is known for her shop with her candid opinions as far as I'm concerned, highly intelligent positions. She hosts the popular YouTube show Candace Please welcome back to the show to one and only Candace Owners.
How are you, Candas? How's everything everything is good?
You know? New baby? So I'm barely sleeping, but it's of course a blessing.
Well, first of all, you don't look at so compliment to you. That's number one. Number two, I mean, you're just getting back into action. Before I get into some of these questions, because I could have wait to talk to you about this stuff. How long have you been out? How long have you How much of a break did you take?
I took six weeks and made a couple of appearances because some stories were just so big that I felt like I needed to respond to them. But other than that, I've just kind of been in baby world.
I got you. Well, listen, I'm glad.
I really appreciate you taking time out of your schedule because I definitely wanted to talk to you about a couple of things, and of course yourself. But let's get right into it. I want to have you back on to get your perspective. With some trending news headlines, you called the escalation between Israel and Iran a propaganda war. We all know what's been going on between Israel and Iran. We've heard President Trump speak about it. You've been on the record calling it a propaganda war.
Explain that, Candice, Well, it was very obvious that this war was going to happen because the American foreign policy is dictated by Israel, and it was problematic that Bibina and Yahoo was increasing his rhetoric against Iran. And this is after they have effectively seized land in Syria. They were cheering what happened in Syria. We knew that it was going to end up wind up with Christians being mass murdered, which is what's happening right now. And what's
happening in the Middle East. For those who aren't clear on this is Israel is simply is expanding its borders or woether that be by carpet bombing women and children, which we have not had a person with power effectively say that this is morally wrong, of course, and now it seems they also want to annex the West Bank.
What's happening in the West Bank, which has nothing to do with Gaza, is the individuals that live there are being traumatized by the IDF And so if you're paying attention, it's very clear that they have become increasingly radical and they are effectively, as they always do, using the American military to fulfill their foreign policy interests because they are a small nation and they don't have the bodies to
be able to accomplish that. They need the might of the American military to accomplish their foreign Middle Eastern objectives. And so yeah, it was very I am on record saying this for the last two years. We're going to war with Iran one way or the other. Because what bb Net and Yah Who wants is what bib Net and yah Who gets.
How is that? How is that the case?
Because listen, I'm watching the Daily Show the other day and I'm watching John Stewart, who obviously is to support of these Jewish and he's support of the Jewish community and Israel, of course, but he spoke out about how Net and Yahoo was saying the same thing recently that he said in twenty eighteen, that he said in twenty fifteen,
that he said in twenty eleven. And what's surprising to me is that this seems to be a community divided within the on Jewish can But you have some people who are about being isolation this which is something we'll get into later, and don't necessarily support this. And then you got guys like conservative pundit Mark Levin, who I know that you know a thing or two about. You know, I know him, I've known him for years, and he is fixated on this. He believes that America should be evolved.
He believes that Iran is evil and that they need to be wiped off the face of this earth. And essentially the threats that they've made, not just Israel, but death to America as well justifies the kind of things that we have been seeing. Do you know, do you take that into consideration when you're giving your thoughts.
Absolutely, And I think one of the things that the public needs to recognize is this intentional conflation. And it's completely wrong of Israel, the foreign nation which is being led up by Prime Minister bibing Net and Yahoo and Jewish people. That would be an absolute nonsense. If I sat here and I said, well, you know, whatever happens in Nigeria, it means that if you critique the Nigerian government, that you're somehow against black people in America, that we
would all say that to nonsense. But this is they have been very successful in this idea that if you critique what is happening in the Middle East and what actions are being led by bb Net and Yahoo's government radical government, then you're somehow anti Semitic. So it shouldn't surprise you to see that many Jewish people have taken to the streets, not only Jewish, but by the way Israelis because, as we know it in America, you can be an American and not support what the government is doing.
I am not supporting right now the decisions that are being made by the Trump campaign as it pertains to Middle Eastern policy. But they have the disagreement. You have Israelis taking to the street, boycotting, protesting, bbing in Yahoo. And similarly, you have Jewish people who recognize that there has been this wrong conflation as if all Jewish people agree with the NonStop campaign of bombing in the Middle East, which has essentially been in effect since nineteen forty eight,
since the creation of Israel as a nation. And so I'm not conflicted or confused about what's happening. I find it to be as disingenuous as attaching. Well, if you critique Black Lives Matter as an organization, this means that you're critiquing all black people. Know it doesn't doesn't mean that whatsoever, I'm critiquing the Israeli Prime Minister. I am critiquing their actions. Really their actions, which have began since nineteen forty eight. The more that I become educated about
the topic, it has always been this despicable. It has always been a campaign of burming, of carpet bombing and theft stealing lands. And when people notice what they're doing, they say, well, you can't say that because of anti Semitism. That's ridiculous. Okay, you know how I feel about this, especially as someone who's been called an uncle Tom and Nakun for critiquing things that were happening within the black community.
I am not going to respond to name calling. I'm going to respond to the facts, and the facts are Piebat and Yah. Who is doing in the Middle East is a terrorist campaign.
When you I saw a recent episode, I forgot who you were talking to. Forgive me for not knowing his name, but you were showing highlights of Dave Portno, you know, for Barstool and how he was going at one of the individuals that I think was he employs, and he went ballistic because of a joke that was being aimed in his direction or what have you, and I don't remember the joke, So I apologize for that, but you highlighting his reaction because you were pointing out how he
could joke about some things. But if you joke about anything at this particular moment in time, it's going to be labeled anti Semitic. Is that something that you feel fervently about, that you feel adamant about in terms of you just can't say anything? Is such a lopsided thing, because when I think about the Jewish community, of of course I'm looking at some of the things that are transpiring.
I don't like it one bit.
In the same breath, I'm thinking about October seventh, from a couple of years ago, when they were attacked and people were kidnapp people were killed, et cetera, et cetera, and the retaliation on their part was predictable and in the odds of a lot of people understandable.
That's where I come from with it. Where are you coming from with it?
When I use a port no example or others, as you allude to anti Semitism, which is obviously a grave concern for the Jewish community at this particular moment in time.
First and foremost, I can think of nothing more anti semitic than two years of bombing the Palestinians, who are Semitic people. That's another thing. They just decided they're the only Semitic people, which is absolutely absurd and it's erroneous. But further to your point, there was this media effort and we've all seen over the last two years, it's
been this increasing slur of anti Semitism everywhere. Like people who have been in the public space forever and have never been accused of being anti Semites are now being accused of being anti Semites, me being one of them. I worked for two Jewish organis before I was suddenly being accused of being anti Semitic. So sometimes on its face,
you have to ask yourself a question. And again I will use the example of BLM, where suddenly it seems like everyone is being accused of racism, to the point that it was becoming a parody, like someone would braid their hair and they'd be like, cancel this girl, because this is appropriation. When you start to see that increase,
and what people are actually trying to do is control speech. Right, this guy said, I think it's okay if someone jokes at you and calls you Rabbi Dave port Noi, you should be able to take a joke, right, welcome to the Internet. Everyone's called different things, and he has a meltdown and asks him. Dave Portner says, how many Jews have to die before you stop joking? That's an emotional manipulation tactic. Okay. Nobody dies from a joke. Okay, nobody
dies if somebody tweets at Dave Portnoy. Hey, your Rabbi, Dave Portnoy. Now as they're critiquing you, and you only do that. You only start to come in on speech and to demand all these rules and these cancelations when you have something to hide when you are wrong. Okay, Because when you're winning on the basis of your ideas, when you're winning on the basis of the argument, you don't ask for more censorship. I want the debate. When I know I'm right about something, I'm not going censor
the wrong guy. I'm like, platform the wrong guy, get me across from him so i can embarrass him. So we knew this was coming on the basis of this increase of smearing people as anti semites for asking rational questions, and so I'm not surprised that we've arrived at this point.
Well way, I would push back on that canvas is that's you.
You're highly intellectual, very very articulate, very researched, exceptional at defending your points, etc. And so that could give you the I don't want to say the motivation, but the ability to be calm and collective in articulating a point of view to refute something somebody else is growing and
throwing at you. But if you're a Dave Portinal, just to use this example, and you're a Jewish individual who emphatically believes that this anti Semitism race raving through this country, if not this world, at this particular moment in time, you can't.
Understand why he would react.
And I'm not saying he should have gone as far as he did, but can you understand where he's coming from when he's passionate about it, Because to me, it's coupled with a fear that the Jewish community is feeling at this particular moment in time because of what they're doing and to use your words, because of the action of their own government in Israel.
I can't understand it, not even percent, okay, And nothing is more obnoxious in having somebody as successful a multi millionaire probably doesn't even touch his own door handles, pretending that he's just so terrified and he can't go outside. That's a nonsense, Okay. He is trying to hype up his victimhood because he does not have an argument to make, and that's what people do. They lean into victimhood when
they cannot rebut an argument. It'd been very easy for him to calmly explain, this is the reason why this is wrong, and so and so died because of this joke. Someone fell over and died because someone tweeted Rabbi Dave Portnoy. But that's nonsense. So he went with screaming, and then in this weird leave owner vibe tells him I own you, and I pay you what I own you, Beth, which is just quite frankly despicable.
Got you, got you? You know what I gotta keep I've gotta keep in mind the candace. When I'm talking to you, I'm gonna make sure I don't raise my voice or anything like that.
Have you got me?
You gotta be wondering if I did the wrong things a boy raising my voice talking sports for crowd out loud, because that's a good oline like that. Let me look at myself, Let me check myself just a little bit more in the future because.
Candas is bringing up some very valid points. I got it. I got it.
Let me move on to Tucker Calls and while I have you here, and I want to get into you a little bit later because I want to talk about some things involving you directly, but right now I wanted to touch on Tucker Calls in the form of Fox News host got into a fiery exchange on Tuesday, you know, with Senator Ted Cruz over his support for President Trump and his posturing towards Israel. At least that's what Tucker
Callson claims it to be. I want to show you this clip right now with Tucker Calls and getting into it with Ted Cruise.
Take a look at this, Candas.
How many people living around By the way, I don't know the population at all.
No, I don't know the population.
You don't know the population of the country. You seek to topple how many people living around ninety two million?
Okay?
Yeah, how could you not know that.
I don't sit around memorizing population tables.
Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the overthrow of the government.
Why is it relevant whether it will because ninety million or eighty million or a hundred million.
Because if you don't know anything about the country. You didn't say I don't know anything about Okay, what's the ethnic mix of I wrong? They are Persians and well presuminantly Shia. Okay, you don't know anything about Iran. So okay, I'm not the Tucker Carlson bird on Iran. You're a center who's calling there the one government about the country.
Eight.
No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump.
I'm not saying that.
Who can't figure out General Solamoni and you.
Believe they're trying to murder Trump?
Yes, because you're not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation and if.
They really believe that carrying out military strikes today you said Israel was right with our help. I've said we Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them.
Well, this you're breaking news here because the US government last night denied the National Security Council spokesman Alex Feiffer denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity.
We're not bombing, then Israel's bombing that you just said we were we are supporting as I says.
You're a senator if you're saying the United States government is now we're with Iran. Right now, people are listening.
Candice, you saw it a What do you make about that? Face off? Right there? Your thoughts?
So, first thing I want to say is I greatly respect both of these men. I very much like Ted Cruz as a person. I have had nothing but positive relations with him anytime that I come across him. But in this clip, it really embodies everything that I think the American people are so frustrated with. Right, you have a person who is keen to go to war with Iran, and he is suggesting that it is I guess, a form of trick to ask him, what is the population
of Iran? If you're going to make a vote that we should go to war with this nation on behalf of Israel. And it is a fact that Ted Cruz accepts a lot of money from APAX, so they lobby, and you know, the Israel pack lobbies. He's one of the senators that takes a lot of money from APAC
every year. You would imagine that you've made some estimation in your mind that A there is a imminent, perceivable threat to the American people if you are in fact America first and it's front of out Americans, and B that if we go to war with them, we can win. And so in going through that line of questioning in your head, can we win this, like is there a threat to American people? You, of course are going to assess the population size, like we're a nation of three
hundred million people, how big is our military? Their nation of how many people, how big is their military? And he hasn't done that. He's omitting like, hey, I actually don't even know the population size of Iran. I do expect you to know the population size of Iran. That'd be a pretty basic thing if you're going to vote yes to going to war. And the reality is is he can't answer that question because, like many people in Congress left and right, they vote according to how they
are lobbied. So if it's Big Pharma, they're voting for everyone to have to take the COVID vaccine because I took X amount of dollars from Big Pharma, right, or I took X amount of dollars from this pharmaceutical company. If it's big war and you're dealing with the NonStop war. There's always been a threat in the Middle East, right, and we've lost all of those wars. Right. The Taliban has our weaponry. There were no weapons of mass destruction
in Iraq. Generation nine to eleven has grown up. We are demanding that all of you be able to answer some basic questions and to explain why a threat which tulsy gabbered the Director of National Intelligence eight weeks ago sat down in a congressional hearing and testified that there was no nuclear threat eight weeks ago. Now suddenly, eight weeks later, there is one. Right when Israel decides that
they want to bomb Aron. It's a nonsense. And I am tired of being gas lit by our politicians to pretend that we don't understand and can't perceive the threats. The threat Actually, frankly, it Israel because we go to war and it only benefits them.
You know, you sound very, very disgusted. I'm wondering where the word I'm wondering where the word fear comes into play. I believe I've read or doing my research, I was told that you feel you need you needed security. Obviously, some of the things that you say are incredibly polarizing, particularly in this day and age right now, whether it should be or not. As for somebody else to conclude,
I'm just telling you what they're saying. When you take that into consideration right now, as you look at your life, you just had it just it was on maternity leave, you got four kids, you're happily married, et cetera. How comfortable is life for canvae Owens right now or lack thereof there?
I say.
We I want to be honest. I have tremendous fear of God. And that's why you have to tell the truth. Right If you do Christ's kingship, and you truly are a Christian, then your number one fear is of God, because this is not it. This is we get eighty years in this life and then we're and then we're in the next. And so when you see these people who pretend to be Christians and they look at what Israel is doing, they look at the NonStop campaign of starvation.
You can look at the videos of them bombing children, the children crying, shooting children as they try to run for food, and you pretend to declare Christ's kingship. And yet what you're actually fearful of is saying that that's wrong because you don't want to be canceled, because you don't want to lose your job, because you don't want people to call you an anti Semite. You know, I question your sincerity. It's what I would say, can't I
don't sit in the seat of judgment. But what I say to people is you are going to one day meet your maker, so you better start doing the right thing, which is to tell the truth unapologetically. And I want, in terms of my family, I want my children to inherit that for me, you know, passionate, to be passionate for the truth, which is to be passionate for Christ. Right that that is what Christ is. Christ is the truth.
You have to follow Christ at all times. And I've made my position very clear on this.
Who are you saying is pretending to be Christian? Just for clarification, because you alluded.
To all the argument that has been made by people. And Tucker Carlson just released further parts of this interview with Ted Cruz and he says, you know, why should we follow Israel? And he says, well, the Bible says that if I, you know, bless Israel, then I will be blessed. That's what Tucker. That is what Ted Cruz says to Tucker Carlson about why we should be following them into this war. And Tucker Carlson, who's a Christian, pushes back on that. He's like, well, let's get into
the theology of this. You think that you are going to be blessed, And I'm filling in the blanks here, but essentially, what Ted Cruz is offering is that you will be blessed if you allow this nation, which was created in nineteen forty eight, that Genesis is referring to this modern nation of Israel, a right to bomb, starve, kill, take land whenever they want, blackmail our politicians, Jeffrey Epstein, a lot of questions about who shot JFK and why
we couldn't get those spots. You're gonna be blessed if you keep supporting this. And that is the reality is that there was this incursion after the Schofield Bible. And this is what I really challenge people who believe this heresy to look into the history of a Scholfield Bible, look into who funded that Bible, to teach Christians how to view the nation of Israel. The Bible is not referring to the modern state of Israel and bb net
and Yahoo. God is not calling upon you to support the slaughter of women and children perpetually and is going to award you with heaven because kids are crying and starving and dying in the Middle East. I mean, you do have to have If you don't have religious fervor or religious understanding, please just have a little bit of common sense. Okay. God does not support the NonStop murder of innocent lives. That's just like a Christianity.
One on one back to you, do you have you heightened your security?
I asked you that question because I heard I heard that you you've spoken about that.
I'm just asking, I don't know, interested in it? Have you?
Well, let's be let's be frank. I have not heightened my security to answer your question, and the reason for that is because I understand what kind of demons we're fighting, and I just have I put my faith in the Lord. You know, my protection is prayer, and I try to live my life very honestly and let people know what's going on in the background. Obviously, I don't know if you saw this, but while I was on attorney leave, the FBI called me there was a group chat with
forty Jews in New Jersey plotting my nation. This really happened. Yeah, a man was arrested. And by the way, the irony of this is we are told because he was upset that I'm speaking against the state of Israel. We are told that in Iran we have to invade because they're religious fanatics. Right, Well, look what we're dealing with. People that believe that this state has the right God has blessed them with the right to murder and kill people. And we also have their supporters now trying to kill
Candice Owens. That's a fact. You can go book this up, FBI. Candice Owens, the guy who's been arrested. And by the way, he pled guilty. This wasn't like, hey, he got caught up in some plot. He pled guilty to trying to murder Candace Owens. Yeah. I think that that really does say it all. We are in quite a paradox here.
Hold that thought, Candace, Hold that thought.
I got more to ask you, but not before I pay these bills back with more in a minute. All right, everybody, listen up all the big time sports action that's happening each and every day.
The Stephen A.
Smith Show wants to make sure you are taking advantage of it all. That's why we partnered with Prize Picks, the best place to win cash while watching sports.
The app is really easy to use.
To make a lineup, all you have to do is pick more or less on a few player stats. Choose from any of your favorite players Tyrese Haliburg, Shay Gilgess, Alexander Pascal Siakam all in the same entry to sit back and watch.
The list is really endless.
You can play Prospects in over forty states, including Californi when you're in Texas. Best of all, Prospects will give you fifty dollars when you play your first five dollar lineup.
Wanna lose, You'll get fifty bucks.
So just use promo code says and download Prospects Now again. Download the app and use code say Yes to get fifty dollars instantly after your first five dollar lineup.
Prospects, Hey, Hey, run your game.
I want to transition to MAGA because when we think about the MAGA, we thought about the MAGA right now. I watched you, or watched a video of you from years ago in your definition of MAGA, and you were saying,
it's counter to what we're witnessing the day. So on one side, you might see a conservative commentator like a Mark Levin, you might see a Ted Cruise, you might see folks like that, and you look at Donald Trump and some of the things the president is doing in this day and age, and you juxtaposed that to a Steve Bannen, a Tucker Callson, even Marjorie Taylor Green, she spoke about this as well. You seem to be on that side. And just to make sure that I'm clear,
but what I'm talking about this is a quote. There's a tweet from Marjorie Taylor Green on X Tucker Caulson. It's one of my favorite people. He fiercely loves his wife, children in our country. Since being fired by the neocon network Fox News, he has more.
Popularity and viewers than ever before.
He unapologetically believes the same things I do that if we don't fight for our country and our own people, then we will no longer have a country for our children and our grandchildren and foreign rewards slash intervention slash regime change, put America last. Kill innocent people are making us broken, will ultimately lead to our destruction. That's not kookie, That's what millions of Americans voted for. It's what we
believe is America first. How do you feel about what Marjorie Taylor Green tweeted there on X Do you completely agree with her?
Is there anything that you disagree with?
Well, let's be clear right now. The people applauding Donald Trump are Megan McCain, Ted Cruz, Ted Cruz ran against Donald Trump, and John McCain with his dying breath. It was an ever Trumper with his dying breath. And I remember Megan McCain standing at his funeral saying this country was always great, it never needed to be made made great again, to take a stab at Trump even as
she was giving words for her father, which is remarkable. Right. So, if Trump's aligning himself with the people that didn't support him, and the people that did support him are saying what he's doing is wrong, that doesn't mean that Maga betrayed Trump. That means that Trump is betraying MAGA. Okay, Maga is
a term make America great again? And it was because the America people felt like our country was in a steep decline while we were being told that we had to build up every other country with programs, we had to spread democracy in the Middle East. That's been a remarkable failure. And at the same time, our veterans are coming home and they're being treated like crap. We talked about the farmers, she talked about the ranchers. That was the vision that Donald Trump painted that made me get
behind him. And I took a lot of bullets for that, a lot of bullets for that, especially as a black person is not allowed to vote Republican. And I don't regret voting for him in twenty twenty and voting for him and telling people to vote for him because I truly believe he was the better candidate. And I still don't regret voting for him against Kamala Harris because I still believe he was a better candidate. But this is a betrayal, plain and simple. There's no other way to
say that. And I believe what's motivating that is he took one hundred million dollars from Miriam Madelson and these people you're talking about, Mark Levin, they are Israel first. Okay, Megan McCain, she is war machine first. How's that trust fund going to get topped up? What did John McCain do? These people are neocons because they support NonStop war because
that is how they enrich themselves. And if that is what Trump is aligning with, if that's what he wants his legacy to be, you know, I came in fighting neocons, and now I've aligned with him, then that's on him. That really is. I can't tell him what to think or what to say, or who to support. I just won't support it.
That's fair. But does that surprise you?
Because listen, in fairness to you, like I said, I haven't spoken. I only spoke to Trump once since he's been president, and that's when I did the whole town hall thing on News Nation with Chris Clawlmore and.
Bill O'Reilly and those guys.
Prior to that, I'd never spoken to Trump since twenty fourteen.
But before he ran for president, people.
In the sports community knew Donald Trump very very well. We used to go to his fights and is you know, the casinos and the hotels and stuff like that.
We used to see him at basketball games.
Talked to him all the time, and that Donald Trump we knew was what folks, maybe not you specifically, I don't recall this, but most folks classified the mass candas he was a deal maker, you know what, whatever way, whatever it took to get what he wanted, he was cool with it.
And so for me, this is.
Not a surprise when you talk about him Verren left in terms of varying wright actually when it comes to some of the things that he's elected to do. But most people with MAGA seem surprised, and they do feel like they are words like betrayal.
To me, it's more the same. It's who he is.
He's going to lean towards getting what he wants, and it's just that simple.
Okay, that's a fair assessment. I would say, why we're surprised, it's because we had him in office for four years and he wasn't a warmonger, he wasn't aligned with the neocons. He was fighting them tooth and nail the first four years that he was in office, and it seemed to us that and I think anybody would agree the country was getting better. I mean that I think that's why
he increased his margins in voting. If we look at the demographics, like you know, more black men, more black women voted for him this second time around when he got into office, because the rhetoric fell on deaf ears when people were like, oh, he's going to do this, He's going to bring us into war, we go. He didn't do that for the first four years. So yeah, it has been a shift in how he behaved in
the first four years of office. But to put two and two together, big money wasn't behind him the first time, right, that was the whole thing. Nobody wanted him. It was a never Trump movement that was led by the McCain type. He can't get into office, and so did he buck to them suddenly when he took that chet from Mariam Adelson and then change his motivations. Perhaps we're having to do some internal soul searching for those of us who have voted for him second and third time to wonder
what is the sea change? But I think you have to admit that there has been one. He wasn't putting us into wars from twenty twenty twenty twenty four.
Are you fearful at all that the Trump presidency is in him as in terms of him being the fourth seth president of United States, that it could end up being worse than anything you ever imagined if Kamala Harris had won the election.
Is that possible?
No. I think Kamala Harris it was going to be similar to Joe Biden. The advisors and people that were around her were going to be running the show. We can disagree on this, but I've never thought that she had the cognitive capabilities to be running the office. If you just look at her record and how she really got into office. And I'm seeking about her Californian record. But with Trump, I do I have a fear of World War three? Yeah, that's why we're speaking up and
saying this is unacceptable. Right, That's why we are saying what you are doing is wrong and letting him know that we feel betrayed. We went along with it and said this is fine, we just trust the process. Then I would probably be more fearful. But I think it's becoming clear that the basis fractured, and hopefully he'll respond to that.
Kennice, where do you go from here?
If he doesn't respond or he doesn't respond favorably to the kind of things that you are asserting and stating, where do you go because we know how you feel about the Democratic Party, okay, and now we're hearing how you feel about this betrayal that you think that he has exercised since he's become president.
Again, where do you go from here?
If that doesn't change as it pertains to him.
Well, I think, no matter what, I'm always going to support a candidate that I believe is telling the truth or that is going to do the most good for America. At the end of the day, my day is not motive by politicians. I don't have faith in politicians, right, I have faith in Jesus Christ, and so I'm not this is not going to throw and I'm not going, oh my god, I'm going to become a Democrat tomorrow or I'm going to become a I'm no longer going to
vote for Republicans anymore. I think that if anything, if he really truly continues to follow this and does what Bibet and Yahoo wants, then it's going to bring both sides close together because we're going to recognize that everything is about keeping us warm from another while the same people at the top are benefiting the oligarchs, the war machine, and so I don't have plans to leave the Republican Party. Like I said, I don't regret voting for him. I
regret what he's doing right now. And until I see who the candidates are, I won't be able in the future. I won't be able to remark on where I'm going to go because I'm always going to follow what I believe to be right.
Does any candidates stand out there in your mind? I mean, when I think about it, they've been talking about me as a presidential candidate.
Candads get that out their head. I'm not qualified, I don't know. I'm learning stuff from you and everybody else. I don't know any better. I don't know any better. And Devin, I'm not interested.
But I will tell tell you I am interested in highlighting those who deserve to be highlighted from both sides of the isle to make sure we can do what we can to get this country steered in the right direction and see some figurative light at the end of the tunnel. Per se, Is anybody that's standing out in your mind that we should pay close attention to moving forward?
Thomas Massey of Kentucky. He has been the most consistent America first person. He has earned the ire of Trump and the ire of APAC because he does not accept their money, and he votes against every war, and he will not send a single dollar overseas. He votes against every measure to send money overseas until the American people
are taking Hara first. And so yeah, he is the person that I peer pressure the most to run for president, and I would get behind him, and I feel that he would never betray the American people because you can look at his voting record and see where he stands on the issues.
Damn, kid, this only one does. How I asked you, you got some names, you gave me one. I'm going like that. That's a bad state of affairs. As much as you know about politics, as much as you follow this stuff. If I ask you an open ended question like that and you only give me one name, I got a reason to be really really nervous candas, because that means you don't believe in any of them.
Yeah, I mean, when it comes to Israel, it's crazy to see how they vote. It's a nonsense Ukraine as well, the way that they've just been sending our money into an effective laundry mat None of this is okay, and the American people should be upset that we've been promised, Oh,
we're going to stop this. We're not going to do this, And it's always the next emotional conditioning of why we have to send money overseas while the American people continue to suffer and our cities are in the state of decline. So no, I'm not impressed with politicians on the left or the right at the moment. At varying degrees. Some are they portray us more than others. But there's no
one that I find to be impressive right now. And maybe there's some people that I'm missing, and I'm sure I'm sure I am that are outside that sit outside of DC. But in terms of people that are in DC, Thomas Nassey is the first thing that mind.
I think, Listen, it's not to me. I don't have a problem with America. First.
I do have a problem with America only because I don't want to be a nationalist to the point that I forget the global perspective, because obviously we do business across the world. Where I think about Israel, I'm saying to myself that's supposed to be the lone democracy in the Middle East.
You're looking at Ukraine.
Okay, if you don't support them, then Russia gets more empowered. I get a bit concerned about that. Again, I don't know as much as people like yourself, but those are the kind of things from a distant perspective, I look at it and I say, Okay, I don't want to just be pouring money all over the place. But in the same breath, if these other nations need our assistance and their allies of ours, I'm not opposed to that necessarily.
Do you believe in having a global impact, having our footprints around the world globally to make sure that the world is a better place or a safer place to some degree?
Do you believe in us playing that kind of role?
First and foremost, I do not support you. Do not support Zelenski. I think he's a modern day Bolshevik who's mass sending Christians to slaughter in an unwinnable war. He's just mass murdering Christians. And so if you're telling me, at least you know Putin is defending Christians at this single moment. And I don't pick Putin over Ukraine, but I know that Ukraine is more corrupt because we conducted a color revolution and we installed someone in Ukraine back
in twenty fourteen. John McCain was behind that. And this is what we do all over the world, these fake protests and then we overthrow a duly elected leader, and that's what we did in Ukraine. Ukraine is a corrupt country and it's a laundry mat of America. Israel is not a democracy by any stretch of the imagination. You cannot say it is a democracy and then listen to their absolute bs excuses as to why Gaza is treated in the way that it is and why Gaza doesn't
have any voting rights. You know, Oh, well they when we gave them voting rights, Why are you giving them anything If you're sitting here saying that at that moment, you accepted that they could run their own They could run what they wanted to in Gaza at that time. But you have the power to turn off the lights, shut off the electricity, to shut off the water. This isn'n apartheid state. This is what Gaza is. And I'm
glad you're showing images. They have been treating these people basically just above the poverty line not allowing too much food into Gaza for a very long time, and Norman Finkelstein was the person who woke me up to really how Gaza is run. It's a partheip state. They don't have voting rights, and no one should support it and keep allowing people to call it a democracy. It it's
absolutely foolish. And again that's because they keep us ignorant in America with ridiculous biblical arguments that are actually heretical and it's not what the Bible is expressing at all. But all of that aside, ask going back to your question, Yes, I am America first. I am not necessarily America only, but I am only going to be America first until we fix our issues. And that is again common sense. Right, you have a household, if you've got to feed your kids.
If I said, hey, Steven, actually don't feed your kids, and I'm going to need you to feed the neighbor's kids, I'm gonna need you to feed my kids and people are that you don't even know out in Utah first while your kids are starving, you would go that makes no sense. Of course, I'm going to make sure my kids are fed first. These this is America. Let's make sure that our people are taking care of first, that our people are able to live well, to have jobs,
and to feed their families. Uh, before we go around trying to fix the world's problems. I mean, we send dollars for ridiculous things to establish you know, trans rights in Pakistan, Like, what are we doing? That's just that's a laundry mat that's the money is obviously not going there, it's being stolen from the American people.
But what about the issuest is going on right here in this country when we're talking about the immigration issue in Los Angeles and how you've got you know, the president sending four thousand members of the National Guard, seven hundred marines to the city of Los Angeles. Obviously it sparked the protest throughout this nation. No King's protests, because you know, the left was going to be diametrically.
Opposed to his position.
It's not just stuff going on abroad, it is stuff going on right here in the streets of America. What do you say about that, because, like you said, fixing our own house obviously should be a priority in your eyes. I don't disagree with you there, but what do you have to say about that what's been going on in.
La Obviously, it is the job of the federal government when you have an incursion, as we did during during Biden's administration, of millions of people coming across the border, to get those people out of the country. Who does that hurt It hurts us, obviously, when all of these people are unaccounted for in our country and playing a part in the economy while they're not paying taxes. That's ridiculous. You got to go home. There was a legal way
to get into this country. I know because I married an immigrant and it took us seven years, okay seven years for my husband to go through the process to become a legal American. So I am especially insulted when these people pretend that there's just no way to do this. It's a long process, it's a hard process. But you can do that, and you're not going to tell me that all of these people need to stay in the country that they've been in for less than four years,
especially the newcomers under like very open border policy. Americans suffer when people are in this country unaccounted for. Sorry, adios, amigoes, you got to go home. I don't care at all. You've got to follow the rules. I'm not going to feel bad for you because you broke the law and got away with it while there was a different president. And to the extent that you're going to have then individual states saying oh no, we're going to allow people
to break the law. And yet everyone in the entire Tennessee, whether you're in Texas tency, we all have to pay for it. That's ridiculous. That's absolutely we are going to all have to pay for it. Why should I have to go to work to pay for people that broke into this country? So I don't understand it. But going back to your question, of course this should be addressed first. Right, these are uprising that are taking place in America. These are issues in the bates that need to be had
and one in America. And that is another reason why we should not be having discussions about what Israel is doing. They're always doing the same thing. They're bombing innocent people and claiming that they have a right to do it.
Please don't tell me your feelings about what you just discribed going on in LA in terms of the immigration issue.
You don't feel that way about the children, do you? Children.
I mean, it doesn't matter if it's to use the to say that the argument is that a child is allowed to break the law. Let me tell you why that's really wrong. They say, this is like the separation argument. You're going to separate them from their parents. No, first off, everyone should go home together. You should take your child,
and you should go back to Mexico. The second thing I want to say about how ridiculous sad is is we would never have the argument that if let's use an example of a black man, a black man commits a crime in America. You know, let's let's say he shot someone and now he's got to go to prison. We wouldn't say, please tell me that you've considered judge that, yeah he shot someone, Yeah he broke the law, but he has a child, so please don't imprison him. Please
allow him to be released. Back on to the treat No, no, no, you break the law, whether you're black, white, Hispanic, comfort in other country, there has to be a consequence for that. And we understand on a molecular level, of course, you're going to be separated from your child and go to prison if you break the law. It's the exact same thing here. Your children and you you should not be separated. Should all have to go home when your parent breaks
the law. Unfortunately, the children have to suffer the consequences of that. Sometimes daddy has to go to jail. Sometimes daddy has to go back to Mexico.
You're very, very popular. You don't need my help in being even more popular. But you're gonna get it anyway, because anybody that I bring on from now on that has an opposition to anything you said, I'm gonna play your clips, Candas, I'm gonna play your clips.
For them to see.
I'm gonna say, hey, did you see what she said? What's your responses? I'm just letting you know in advance. I'm just letting you know an advance. I'm gonna be like, look, did you hear what she said? Just so you know, because I want you to know this. Folks out there to think like this, They feel this way, and they're making very valid points and just want y'all to know that. But listen, before I let you get on out of here, and I really appreciate your time, I know, I gotta
let you go. I had to get back to Tucker Casta because of the war Room podcast. He had told ho Steve bann In this about his former employee of Fox News.
Check this out, Candace.
That's not by popular acclaim. That's not like their viewer surveys like we need a lot, Mark Levin unless Jesse Water's more Mark Levin. What they're doing is what they always do, which is just turning up the propaganda hos to full blast and just trying to, you know, knock elderly Fox viewers off their feet and make them This is.
This is where the here's my problem with Tucker costs In on this one canvas. I heard none of that when he was at Fox News.
None of it. None of it. Now I'm hearing this from him. Now That's my only issue.
You what you ask about, You weren't watching Tucker before he got fired. There's a reason he got fired. Tucker was standing up to the war machine. He was standing up to Ukraine. That is the literal reason why Fox News got rid of Tucker. He was anti war and he has, by the way, admitted and we are all
subject to changing our opinions in the past. When he was on CNN, actually I think he was very pro I rock war and how wrong he was on the Iraq war and he believed the weapons of mass destruction was that provided a turning point for him to be anti war when heiz is that actually this is a machine.
And so while he was at Fox News, he's covered a ton of things, but when it came down to a new war, Tucker was bringing in people online to talk about why we absolutely should not be going to war with Ukraine, and it became problematic for the execs because just what he's saying, you know, they appealed to a market of people who believe that there's a threat
around the corner. Elderly people who need to believe that they're going to be nukes are going to be dropped on them because they grew up in a generation where there was a nuclear threat with Cuba, and Tucker Carlson was not serving them.
So he had to go last question to you and again thank you for your time. I know you got to go. I got to ask you this question. I was watching a video of you.
I don't know whether it was from weeks ago or so, I'm trying to remember the date, but you was talking about, you know, watching what you say.
Because you're going to be banned but you don't care. This is how it is.
You absolutely don't mind, et cetera, because you're going to keep on going.
What are your.
Expectation for you What are your expectations for those who are as outspoken as you on these very very sensitive issues moving forward? Considering the landscape that we're living in, YouTube shows, podcasting, etc. Linear television in the fourth of State, and the politics that invaded from time to time are ever present, we all know this. What are your expectations for yourself moving forward? What are you looking forward to? What do you fear, if anything at all?
You know?
I think last year was really kind of the test for me where I chose truth and I was severely caricatured and attacked in the media, you know, lost my job. And on the other side of that for sticking to truth, the reward has been Actually, my platform has gotten even bigger and more people are listening to me than ever before. And so I hope what people learn from that is while telling the truth is hard because lies spread quicker, a lie is quicker. It's the race of the tortoise
and the hair. At the end of the day, and the truth gets around to it. It always wins. It's more powerful because you only have to hear the truth wants to know that it's true, whereas lies have to be told repeatedly to try to convince you the other way. And so I'm gonna keep telling the truth and see where the chips land, because I know where they're gonna land. It's going to land inevitably on the side of justice and reality and truth. So that's where I'll be ken this.
I appreciate you. You know that. I love having you on the show. I love listening to you. Some of the stuff is scary as hell. Can this ain't gonna lie to you? Now? You know, as you.
Edify yourself and you learn more and more and you hear your truth is actually the truth, and a lot of circumstances, Okay, at the end of the day, it still gets a bit scary. But like you said, it calls for bravery from time to time, There's no question about that, and all of us need to stand up
and have it. So I'm certainly not going to engage in condination like a lot of people and me, I'm an independent, but I've always been appalled at the black community in terms of how we've acted towards black conservatives.
My attitude is hear what.
Folks has to say, decipher what's true and what's false, and attack them based on that as opposed to think and they're supposed to think a certain way.
And if they don't, how dare you.
I love the fact that you're contrariy in that regard, that you stand up, that you're fearless in that regard, and I really really appreciate it. I don't always agree with you, girl, I really don't, but I do appreciate where you're coming from, and I appreciate you edifying a lot of folks about what we need to be edified about. Thank you so much, and I'm looking forward to having you on the show in the future. And I must
confess I am waiting for and invite myself. I haven't gotten that from Candace on.
I haven't got it.
You're always welcome you come down Tennessee. I have you on the pod.
Will be so fun. That's right, Nashville, Nashville. Is that what it is?
Nashville?
All right? All right, I'll take you up on that. Thanks so much.
You take care right, Thank you for having me my thanks to Candide ow Is you can watch your show Candice on YouTube over four plus million followers. By the way, she ain't lying about that.
It's over two million last year, it's over four million. Now.
She's doing a thing. People are listening, making no mistake about that. Coming up, I'll share my thoughts on that conversation you just heard with yours truly and the one of the only Candace Owens.
Stick around more to stephen A.
Smith's show, or me specifically to close out the show in a minute, Welcome back to the stephen A.
Smith Show.
My closing thoughts on this conversation that I just had with the one of the only Candace Owns is very very simple.
I'm not gonna stop with her.
She said a lot of things, obviously, things that some would deem incendiary, particularly if you're a member of the Jewish community and you're support of what Prime Minister Benjamin that Yahoo is doing as it pertains to Israel and it's situation with Iran. Not to mention other things that she did not you know, she didn't avoid what happening in Gaza, how folks are being displaced, how folks are being killed, etc. You threw out ther you heard me throw out, how you know what we saw what happened
October seventh. We saw people kidnapped, killed, there's still hostages held by her mass.
We saw all of that. But you heard her response on this particular show.
It's apropos from the standpoint that she has a lot to say. It's consistent with what she said on her own platform and various others on numerous occasions spanning the last couple of years. But we're not going to stop there for the purposes of this show. That's one opinion, that's hers. We'll have opposite points of view, opposite opinions.
We're not here to support or denigrate anybody. When I'm sitting down and I'm interviewing somebody, I'm listening to what they have to say, and I'm putting it out there for the people to hear their.
True, authentic thoughts.
And I think it was important in this particular instance because she's so vehemently speaking against Prime Minister Benjamin at Yahoo in Israel at this particular moment in time. Whether it's Mark Levin or somebody else who's considered a warhawk that is vehemently and adamantly pro Israel, they'll be on this show too. We'll have Democrats, will have Republicans, We'll have folks that support Ukraine, will have people that me might be against funding Ukraine.
The list goes on and on. That's what we do here, and the Steven especially on.
Keep in mind, come first week in September, I'm gonna have my own show on a potish channel on Sirius XM once a week. So these kind of issues are the kind of issues we'll discuss and get into there as well. It's not gonna interfere with my sports show, which is gonna be five days a week on Mad Dog Sports Radio from one to three pm Eastern Standard time every weekday, re airing at six to eight pm
Eastern Standard time. That show on Potus will be separate, but it's just going to show you I'm not running from anything or any issues, and I'm certainly not going to run from talking to anybody.
We want to hear what people have to say.
Then we want to research and edify our minds and our thoughts to make sure that what they're saying is accurate or inaccurate, and from there we propel forward trying to enlighten folks along with ourselves and doing what we can to contribute to making this country in this world
a much much better place. So I know that some of you out there may not have wanted to hear a damn thing that Candice Owers had to say, but four plus million people subscribe to listen to her every chance they get, and not everybody in America or this world for that matter, can say that what she says matters, and a lot more often than not, she seems to know what the hell she's talking about. It's very rare you hear somebody says she's clueless, she don't know what
she's saying. You don't hear it about her. You want to refute what she has to say and defy her positions, you better know what the hell you're talking about, because she certainly does usually, if not always. That's why I had on the show, and that's why I can't wait to have folks with opposing views to.
What she proclaimed on this show as well. Here in all sides, enlightens us, All.
Makes me better, makes you better. Keep that in mind when you're thinking about the Steven A.
Smith Show.
You never know what I'm gonna hit you with. You never know where it's coming from, but I'm gonna always do my best to keep it as real as we possibly can keep it. That's what this show aspires to be about, and I hope today was a step toward doing that even more so, especially these steps in the future that might be antithetical to anything that came out of her mouth.
We shall see, we shall see. That's it for this edition of The Stephen A. Smith Show.
I hope y'all enjoyed it, the conversation with myself and canadae owens feel free to tune into The Steven Aate Smith Show at least three times a week over the digital airwas of YouTube. Okay, and until next time, I'll see you. Got an NBA Finals to cover here in Indianapolis.
Peace of love, everybody, talk to you a couple of days.