Adam Ottavino

take me to gamblers anonymous, promise me. Okay, thanks. I knew I could count on you. But for now I'm talking to athletes and sports industry professionals about what they're doing in quarantine, helping to figure out if famous competing as much as I miss watching it. This is the No Sports Report. Adam Mottavino was a New York as

buying a heat lamp Street Pretzel. Born and raised in Brooklyn, his grandfather founded a stone and granite company in the city that helped build landmarks like the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Monument at Babe Ruce's Gravesite, and the base of the Statue of Liberty, and not shockingly alongside the story passed with the City that Never Sleeps is a die hard fandom of the New York Yankees. Sure, when he was drafted in two thousand six by the St. Louis Cardinals,

his major league baseball dream came true. And when he was traded to the Colorado Rockies and clock thirty seven scoreless appearances and thirty one innings a franchise record, it was obvious he was becoming a bona fide bullpen superstar. But there was always that real fantasy in the back of his mind, the goal of becoming a New York Yankee. And in two thousand nineteen, when he became a free agent,

it all happened, and now he wears pinstripes. The hometown boy returned and put together an extremely effective first season, but continues to fight through some postseason roadblocks that threw him right into the fire storm known as the New York sports media. And so while he should be participating in another year of achieving his childhood dream, he's now stationed at home with his wife and two kids, waiting

for the call to get back to her. We chat about his d I y mentality, hanging out with Garrett cold during lockdown, and finding safety from obsessive thoughts. We get into this and more with Adam Ottavino, the New York Yankees number zero on this No Sports report from Adam Atavino to accept Press one. Hey, how's it going? Man? Hey going good? Thanks for having me. I know you are extremely New York through and through, so I think I know this answer, but I have to ask everyone

where have you been quarantined? And with who? We live north of the city, New York City. Um, and just been with my wife and my two daughters. And how old are your daughters? Four and a half and one and a half. That's quite an attack. Yeah, we're in the we're in the trenches. But we love each other and they're cute, so it's okay. I know if they were cute, it would be torturous. What have you done for fun to keep them entertained? That an age, it has to be watched at all times. What are you

doing to make the time pass so? Um? For fun? You know, we have a yard and chace them around out there, put them on swings. Um. We inflated a bounce house in the basement. So they can jump around down there and I play music rell out, We go on family walks, you know, we watch a lot of movies and read a lot of books, that sort of thing. But you know, that's about it. They haven't seen anybody in a really long time, just through zoom and things of that nature. Yeah, it's like it's a sci fi

movie at times. At one and a half and four though, that is a very repetitive movie age. Are you at least getting them to not watch Frozen over and over again? Yeah, we moved on from Frozen to a while back. But it's true what you say. I mean, um, usually whatever they're into it gets played three times a day for about a week until it switches. Right. So right now we're currently on the mixture of Inside Out, Ugly Dolls and my older ones and so this teenage musical zombies movie,

so we're into that now. Well, there's worse things in inside Out. I'm into that. I'd watch that a couple of times a day. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's a good one. There's there's been something ones along the way. But we're doing all right right now? Good do you have to home school the four year old is there is there even a curriculum to follow. So her nursery

school does zooms money through Friday. Just it's just like half an hour though, and then she has some extra curriculars that she's able to do the internet as well, Like she does her ballet and her chess and guitar. But that's it. The little one's got one little learning thing that she does once a week for a half hour, and other than that, we just kind of read to her and try to do you know, colors and letters and all that all that good stuff. Well, chess in ballet.

I was like at that age, I was like picking my nose in Little League, Like those were my two hobbies. That's a very smart kid. Yeah, we really threw our

oldest into everything. We had an apartment in the city up until recently, and so we were there most of the time, um the last year or two, and you know, she it was running between a lot of extra cogeler she had two ballets a week and that's her favorite, and then she was doing guitar, chess also, like extra learning class, gymnastics, just a lot of different stuff because we wanted to keep her busy and stimulated as much as we could. Yeah, true New York Renaissance women. Uh,

what's been the most surprising part for you? Being with your family seven when you've mostly been on the road at months on end. But this has been probably a new thing for you. You know, it's kind of similar to the offseason for me. Uh, we carve out the time of the day that I work out and do my training and all that. But you know, the big difference right now is that we're stationary. So I wouldn't say anything it's too surprising. I mean, it's kind of

what I expected it. But we're doing well. I mean, we haven't had too many horrible days. You know, it's leundane, but I think for the most part, we're doing well and we still like each other's that's good. That's that's ideal. Uh, you are no stranger. And this might be one of the reasons that you don't feel it's too different is that you know that do it yourself mentality that a lot of athletes and just nor me's have had to adapt during the pandemic. In the past, you rented out

a storefront in Harlem to get your training in. Can you tell people about what this pitching layer that you created. In the past, you had your own like bat cave for athletics. Can you tell us what that was like? Yeah, you know, in the past, I had trained with a group and I was out on Long Island and I just became you know, when my throwing partner moved away to Tennessee, and um, it just became tough for me to really um budget the time well and I feel

like I was rushing. So you know, we were able to get our own space in Harlem and I just kind of put everything I needed there and I was able to train, you know, morning or evening pretty much whenever it made sense that day and kind of get away from everybody and rebuild myself on my own and just kind of, you know, take a day by day. But it was really nice to have that private space to kind of do what I needed to do and

keep my mind in a good place. And it's playing off now because all that equipment from that place which has gone now I have here. So we've been able to do stuff in my basement and and outside. And you know, there's some stuff that I thought I would never use again because I had had been training at Yankee Stadium the soft season, but that's off limits. So here I am using that stuff again. So it's kind of nice. So what was the size? Was it like

a Best Buy size or something. The storefront, well, I mean, I'm imagining like a bodega, and that's that's a crazy thing to think. It was eight ft long wide, very much where a bodega would go. The previous tenant in the space was a nine West shoe store. It was right outside a bus stop Subways on the corner. It's on a very traffic block. It was on the sink list between one and Harlem, still block away from the Apollo,

so it's exactly what you would expect. Luckily, the ceilings were about twelve ft so I could do throwing out to the eight feet without any problem. And you know, we turfed half of it and I put a net dead at the end like a screen so I could throw into the screen. And we just kind of figured it out as we went along, Like we dealt with some lighting issues and some other issues, but overall it was it was really awesome. Cameras all set up, that's

basically what you brought out to your house. Now, so what is the current set up at home? So my gym's in the basement. I have like all the workout equipment there, and then I have all my throwing stuff in the garage and I just pull it out and

throw in my yard. I have a bullpen catcher for the Yankees that lives about half hour away, and he drives over and we we throw, you know, my yard and throw off the mound once a week, and I have my cameras and all that set up, and you know, we just try to make the most of it, trying to stay ready so that when we hopefully figure something out and get going here, then my build up won't be too long. I can just kind of get right

into it. And you've involved others. The Yankees made a massive offseason move picking up a Scarrett Cole, and you've been lucky enough to be able to train with him a little during quarantine. How did that come together? I saw an Instagram pick that showed him at your place. Yeah, we just throw a bullpence together that one day a week, So we just try to align our throwing to match

up for that day every week. And he throws most of the time with with our manager because they both live up in Greenwich, so they throw together up there in Connecticut, and that's about fifteen minutes from here. On the day of the Bullpens, we come down. I mean, I have the turf mound that I had from my gym, and that's kind of the difference maker of why I ended up posting everything. But um, yeah, it's been great.

I mean it almost feels like a game day, bullpen day, you know, he comes rolling in and we challenge each other. We try to make each other a little better and work on our game together, and it's been nice to get to know him during this time. Yeah, did you know him before or was it just like a sort of set update for you guys to work out, never meeting and stuff. Well, I knew him a little bit, and um, I knew him from like some Players Association meetings and uh competing against him and I had we

had some mutual friends. And then um, this year when he signed, you know, I was at stadium during his press conference because I was training that day at stadium. And right before spring training, he uh moved in in Connecticut, so we trained together for about a week at the stadium before heading off the Tampa. So really it just kind of been in the right place at the right time.

It gets to know the guy. And and then when we got broken up from spring training, we talked and I told him, Hayley, like, I have them mount at my house, and let's let's utilize that, so you know, whenever you're comfortable with we'll figure it out as we go, but um, let's not be strangers. And so we've kind

of kept that up. And also, you know, his wife's with him and she's pregnant, and she comes and just kind of hangs with my wife and they watch from a distance, and I think it's nice just to see

some other people. Yeah, it does seem We interviewed Zach Plisack and he had the same kind of relationship with Clevinger, Like it seems like some guys have paired off who lived near each other, who can sort of bunk up, uh and and get some practice in rather than just I think it's throwing against a wall or hitting into

a net. So that's good. Yeah, And also you know, he's really smart, So I mean, ultimately we kind of vibe in that way because we're both into the same stuff with baseball, and so it's nice to be able to kind of feed off of each other and it's made for a good time. You know, it's nice to get to see one of the best up close like that. And Aaron Boone stopped by you said that he practices a lot with with Cole. Are you in touch with

your teammates pretty much straight through this endemic? Yeah, we we have group chats going and we had we had one zoom with the whole team. You know, like I said, I see the bullpen catcher. I seen her and Boone, so chat a little bit. And you know I have friends obviously that I texted the all time. So yeah, we're in touch. You know, most guys did go their separate ways. They're still a group in Tampa and we get checked in with the training stats almost every day.

So I feel like we're together as you could be, considering we're all a part. Yeah, well, who's the funniest in the group chat? Who's the funniest Yankee? I have my money on Luke Voit. You know, it depends on the type of humor. Like I think, just the biggest overall ridiculous characters, Tommy Kinley's and other relievers just insane bundle of energy. But you know, Brick Gardner is really funny, all right, tells he tells great stories, and so I really like to be around him. But we have a

good group. I mean a lot of a lot of funny guys. There's not one dude just hitting the memes over and over in the group chat. No, I mean it's not really. I mean a little bit here and there, but overall not really. Let's talk about the pressure of

being a Yankee. It's certainly different than Colorado because even during the coronavirus when I was researching you, the media is like wildly concerned about how you're keeping warm, and all your teammates, like you get your own articles like here's how Adam is keeping fit Like that definitely wasn't happening in other markets for you. How do you deal

with that difference in scrutiny. Well, I think I had a good advantage just because I grew up a Yankee fan, so I kind of know what that side of it is. I was a die hard Yankee fan growing up, and I understand that they're watching everything that we do. And basically, the thing I always tell my teammates is you just

have to understand the Yankee fan perspective. Like all they really expected and I'll start every position and for and for perfection with your performance, so you know, the expectations are what they are. But I think a big key for me was I matured a lot during my time in Comarado and ultimately realized when I came over here that I needed to tune it all out and just kind of focused on my craft my own way and

left the chip while what they may. And you know, I think it's an honor to be scrutinized as much as we are and wanted to be a Yankee and wear the pin stripes. So I just tried to enjoy my teenmates and focused on the game that we have that night, and I think it worked pretty well for me last year. Yeah. I mean, you have quite a background and a family tree of people. I mean I think it was your grandfather who helped build New York

City in general. Uh. I wonder what it was like for the first time walking into that stadium as an actual member of the Yankees. I mean, that must have been a real pinch moment. Yeah. The craziest moment for me was right after I signed a contract, got called in to the stadium for like some head shots and some stuff that I had to do there. So I went in and when they told me to step for the head shot, I needed to wear like the jersey of the hat, so they had me put on the

hat and the jersey for the photograph. So I commented right away to the clubhouse manager like that this jersey felt heavy to me. I never felt I could kind of feel the weight of it, you know, like the weight of being a Yankee in that moment, And you know, it definitely felt different than any other moment my career because I wore a Yankee stuff obviously growing up, but it was more like fashion. And then all of a sudden, It's like, this is what I'm gonna be wearing for work.

So that was a moment where I felt that type of things for real. And then, you know, I think I got a lot of the other feeling out of the way during training, getting used to being a Yankee and having these teammates and you know that media coverage all that, and then by the time I got to the actual season, I felt pretty comfortable and so was kind of a bonus, I thought, hand with a single digit number, Yeah, yeah, that was a whole another thing. I mean, I didn't know if that was going to

happen or not. Funny that that ended up going down. You had a tremendous below to e r A last season, ran into a bit of a snag in the postseason. And I know that you've changed up your delivery and improved your off speed stuff. You had a very good spring before it was shut down. How antsy are you to go back out there and prove yourself in a new season to these Yankees fans? You know, I'm not

really thinking about it from that perspective. I just know that our team has a really good chance to do special things if we can get back on the field. We have a really good group coming back. So you know, I just want to go out there and do my singing and then get another opportunity, you know, in the post season. So you've got to get there first. I don't want to short chance the process. You gotta work really hard to get to that opportunity and then try

to see the moment. Yeah, and as a middle reliever, your workload is always monitored to avoid over usage. Does a lighting season with less games does that excite you at all? Or does that does that kind of frighten you for for what they normally watch you. Innings wise, it doesn't really scare me. I trained the throw more than they end up having us pitch, and I feel like I've been pretty well conditioned the last few years.

But I do think that if people think that you're gonna throw maybe less because of the shorter season, I mean, it could be naive because they might use it as Okay, there's less games overall, so we can push you a little more often. And I think that's totally reasonable considering if we do play a half season and each game would be double the value. Though, I'm just gonna try

to go for it. I think one thing. As a relief pitcher, especially somebody who pitches towards the back end of the game, you kind of take pride in taking the ball and always being ready. So I think that's the mentality we'll take when we go in with double headers. Mess you up with that, I mean, I was trying to think about that. No, I mean, you know, I've pitched in both ends of a double header a few

times in my career. It's fine, it's just like then you can't pitch the next day, so you know, I think luckily for our team, we have so many good pitchers and we have some good young ones coming that we were able to help each other out and lighten each other's loads and get us where we need to get to to be fresh for the playoffs. I thought

they did a nice job with that. Last year with us, nobody really got burned out too bad, and so I'm sure that would be the same plan unless you know, obviously things change and situation is a little more dire and then we have to get the foot down. But I feel good about our our overall, our overall team. Yeah, and you guys have a stack bullpen. Really only Chapman is locked in for a role. All you guys can come in in any inning. I think like there seems

to be a lot of versatility on the staff. Is that something that you've noticed and there's something maybe the Yankees organizations went out of their way to not have this is the setup, this is the this is the one pitch guy. This is I mean, is it is it on purpose? By committee? In that way, I think that the team tried to just get as many elite arms as they could, and then I think once they

were already had a good baseline of that. Then maybe there was a little more like, Okay, we're lacking a little bit of a special scan one way or another, Like I know what I got signed. You know, one thing I was communicated to me was that most of their pictures in the bullpen were actually better versus left handed hitters the right handed hitters. Obviously I'm better versus right handed hitters, So that was kind of where I was initially thought to fit in and with this group.

And I think the other thing that's awesome about our group of relief pictures is that pretty much everybody on our team could be a closer anywhere else most other places, but everybody's kind of put that to the side. You know, Britain was All Star closer for several years with Baltimore, and for him to come and accept a different role, that just shows what kind of guy he is and what he really values. And that's kind of the way I felt. That's great more with the Yankees, Adam Ottavino

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Now this clearly spoke to me. I suffer from something called obsessive thoughts disorder that I've dealt with, for God, since I was twelve years old. I've I've taken medication to to really feel somewhat cured about it. I read that you use a journal to help calm yourself, and that does a lot for you. Much of the world is getting to our level right now with everything going on.

People used to look at us and go, how do you have how do you ever reoccurring crazy thoughts and now we all have to because we feel like the world is ending at times. Has the pandemic spiked these thoughts for you at all? No? I actually think overall, all of the baseball mental training that I've a mental evolution that I've gone through over my careers helped me

deal with this scenario. I mean, you know, we've become really good at paying attention to what's important right now and boiling things down and being in the moment and really training your brain like about what's what are the things that you want to think about, you know, really controlling that side of it. And I think that serves me well now because if you focus on the stuff that does matter in the moment and stuff that you can have a piece of the And I think that's

a little safer of a mental game. And I think it's tough right now because there's obviously, you know, a big urge for us to get back to normalcy. But you know, because I don't control it and I can draw back on my training for pitching, I think it kind of plays into that. Yeah, it's crazy because you say those things and say that you set them to me. A couple of years ago, I would have been like, well, that's impossible for me. I really truly would have I

would have been like, he's bssing me. But you know, you found journaling, and I'm sure you found some other techniques as well, and I found you know, breathing and meditation and medication, you know, in my case. But I truly when you find your rhythm, it does actually just sort of cut a lot of those thoughts out and finding that rhythm is extremely difficult. Like did it take you a long time to find your coping methods? Yeah, there was an evolution and a lot of people held me.

I talked to a lot of people about what they think about while they're performing and at other times, you know, how do they control the mental side of the game, Because for me, I always felt like I was just getting to a point where I would kind of overwhelm myself. And that's the worst feeling for me is the feeling

of being overwhelmed. So for me, just over time, I got a little better at understanding that my mental control my physical in the game, and like, if I was thinking certain thoughts during a game where I performed well, I wanted to keep trying that that way. I felt like if I had a consistent mental approach, it would help my physical approach, you know, become more consistent. So it was hard though, I mean, failure played a big role.

You know. Sometimes you have to be in your lowest moments where you really doubt everything to really put the ownest on yourself to make a real actionable change. And that was kind of the case with me, Like a lot of coaches would tell me something, and maybe I didn't buy in until I failed so bad that I bought myself. And if that makes sense, no, yeah, sure, sure it is. It's a it's the mind. The brain is a very terrifying, beautiful thing. And that's amazing that

you were able to sort of grasp it. And I feel lucky that I was too. So I hope others maybe listen to that and understand there's there's ways around that that sort of obsessive thinking. Yeah, and it's still

an ongoing thing. I think that's another thing. It's like I used to be very obsessed with getting to a destination, like getting to a place where then I wouldn't have to like maintain things anymore, Like things would just things would just be and I think once I said that that's not real life, Like real life is about creating good habits and constantly evolving costly improving on things. I think that helped me too, because then I just kind of fell in love with the process of things, is

opposed to always obsessed with getting to some destination. And I think that really helps mentally too. Yeah, it's the journey more than anything. It's like I had an audition this week for something, and in the old days, I may have just sat there and thought about it the whole time, and instead I said to myself, I'm just gonna do this because I know I could do well. And it happened and I did my best, and I think I did really well, and then then you move on.

It's in baseball. I feel like in sports it's a similar thing, which is like, you know what your job is, you'll try our hardest. You know you're going to still have those human moments of doubt and human moments of obsession, but they're different than the ones you can't control. Yeah, I think that helped me when I moved to the bullpen. You know, when I was a starting pitcher. In my whole life, I was pitching good, I would ride that high for the whole week, and I have no problem

with anxiety for the next game. But I think if I pitched poorly, then I kind of obsessed over it for four or five days, and then by the time I up to the game, I kind of be mentally already spent, you know, emotionally spent, And in the bullpen, I'm able to kind of just tune out and not really lock in until the moment of truth, and then basically I just tell myself, like, you know, I'm gonna do what I can here and do what happens, and that way it doesn't put as much pressure on everything,

and I'm not in a constant state of angst, So I think I think that kind of helps too well. Speaking of angst, I talked to Justin Turner this week. I asked him, You're gonna be the first a L player that I get to ask this question to. Do you think the break in play is helping the Astros

or hurting the Astros? Do you think that we are giving them some time off and that's going to get people's minds off it, or you think you think baseball fans don't forget anything I don't think people are going to forget it, but I think it's helping them because that was the story of spring training up until the virus,

that was all day, every day. It was already to the point where it was exhausting, and I think that once the season started they were going to be in for a lot of hatred from fans around the country. So to me, I think this is helping. Especially when they come back. They're definitely not going to be any fans and stand so since it helps them. I mean, some of them have kind of come out of the cave and went back on social media and doing all their stuff, and you know, good for them. Power to them.

They're learning how to have that thick skin, I guess, but I think it helps them. I mean, it was definitely coming down on them pretty hard before this. Well, I love that answer. I want to ask you something a little positive and something stupid. I'll give you some suggestions for quarantine, but first, is there anything that you think we've taken on during this time of the pandemic that you you hope we keep when everything clears up, something we want in society moving forward. I don't, I

don't know. I don't know. I'm just not so aware of what everybody else is doing all the time. So I think I'm sure some good lessons will come out of this for the positive. But campin point interesting at the moment. Yeah, I mean, I I've listen, I've been vocal about we shouldn't be hugging people anyway. I think hugging super weird unless your family, I guess. But in baseball, we've been reading some of those new rules that they're looking at, you know, with the maybe not even high

iving and obviously no spitting on the field and those things. Like, was there anything in that list that you were like, yeah, why do we do that? No? I understand all of it because, like that's part of the camaraderie, you know, the high fiving and sitting next to each other and you are like a family and just mixing it up. And that's one of the beautiful things about baseball. There's

the brotherhood there. And I don't know, it's definitely weird to not do any of that stuff, you know, I mean, if we power with each other, yeah, yeah, you know, it's a different thing. Yeah, I mean I agree with it's gonna be very weird. Okay, so here's some suggestions for for quarantine. You clearly have a mound with astroitur if you don't need my help. But here are some things that I wanted to throw out there for you and the listeners, things that that maybe you could take

up during the pandemic. Alright, First, there is a new trend on the internet called pancake cereal. Have you heard about it? No? Okay, social media hit a bit of a meme. It's in the food world, and it's not for anyone on a diet, so I don't want Aaron Boone getting mad at you. But it's pancake cereal, which is literally what it sounds like. People make mini pancakes,

very small pancakes to all look like each other. Then they put them in a large bowl, making it look like cereal pieces, so like it looks like cinnamon toast crunch. But it's all small, little pancakes. Okay. They add on top chocolate, syrup, bananas, whipped cream, even milk. In some cases you could put blueberries on it. Lunch midnight stack, doesn't matter where adults all bets are off in the quarantine. Wow, yeah,

not not healthy. I would try it because for me, the tough part is keeping my weight on during during all right, well, that's a very lucky thing I have. I have put on enough weight for you in the season. We're used to getting like four or five meals a day at the field. So yeah, okay, throw a pancakes cereal in the mix. Uh. Secondly, have you heard of something that's popped up during quarantine called a bear hunt? Okay, it's popping up in cities United States, Iceland, Netherlands, Australia,

New Zealand. It's inspired by a children's book called We're Going on a Bear Hunt. It's by Michael Rosen, and this could help with the children. This is an idea. Participants are placing teddy bears in their windows for children in the neighborhood to spot from you know, walking in a you know distance walks or in the street and looking into windows like they're in a safari and and

basically picking off all the bears in the windows. Okay, cute, I could see that, But it depends on it depends on how close to the window i'd have to get. I would hope for it to be pretty distance, because I don't I wouldn't want to have my kids be creepy, like right up looking at people's houses. That's true. My kid is either looking for a bear or become a very early peeping tom right exactly, I can't tell. All right. Lastly,

I know you are a big photography guy. You're very into cameras, right, Okay, have you been able to shoot anything during quarantine? Not really. I've shot some stuff, you know, related to baseball, and I've pulled my drone around a little bit, and uh, I really haven't gotten anything. And I did see a couple of shots while I was driving to go to the grocery store one day that I wanted to take, but I didn't have camera with me. So I'm thinking my care in the car and hoping

to do a little better in that way. Well, I have an idea. There's no better time to shoot socially distant portraits. And I know the first person you can shoot. Okay, I'm ready. Your former teammate the dust retired CC Sabathia. We have seen incredible drastic weight loss over the past few months. This dude needs professional shots. He needs to show off the glow up. Uh yeah, he's looking good. You could get him shirtless tank top, whatever you're comfortable with.

But here's the thing. Anytime anyone's gonna talk about CC, they're gonna show these old heavy shots and he needs he needs the fit stuff. Yeah, he does. He said he was gonna get ripped after baseball. We all didn't know if he was serious or not, but it seems like he's going for it. I do love the idea he decided to get into shape after sports. Great. It's a great guy, Adam. Your rule stay healthy and stay

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