The missing 411 - Appalachian Beast Tales and UFO Mysteries

Welcome to the Missing 411 Spooky Ellen Radio Case Files , because I feel alone in our home .

It was just , yeah , so much fun . And maybe wink-wink Shauna . We need to do a bonus episode of some sort again where we do that . I think we're planning on , like making pumpkins and doing like the ghost head , pumpkin head trend thing get some photos of you know kind of pumpkin down , sticking one on our heads .

So we're going to go pick some pumpkins next month , carve it in my house and then you'll get a photo . So maybe while we're carving , we'll do a bit of a special episode , because I've got to say one of my most popular episodes was actually the one I did with Shauna . So , yeah , I'm sure everybody would love to hear from her .

So , yeah , come round , tell some spooky stories and get tipsy and we can head to the crown and get really drunk and still at home at 1am with our head spinning and feeling like shit because we're over 30 and we're old and we can't fucking drink anymore .

Yeah , the crown for those of you who don't know which is probably all of you except Shauna and Mark who listen is the local pub . To me it's like a shit old man pub and it's terrible , but drinks are cheap and , yeah , it's got a nice beer garden . It's by the canal . It's crap but we like it . So , yeah , that's what the crown is .

But also , when I started Spooky Island Radio and I looked at ways to diversify because obviously , you know , my podcast had to change because I wasn't telling stories with someone anymore , it was a solo podcast , you know I started to diversify and add sort of campfire tales into the mix , and these episodes are great as they were short , like shorter than my , you

know , my main Spooky Island Radio episodes but all I did was source some ghost stories and put them together . It was really easy to make , but because of this I felt like I was pushing them out for the sake of it and to keep my download up , and then so , yeah , so that's sort of a bit of history of what I've been doing these last 50 episodes .

But then I was pushing them out every week and I was starting to get like you know , a bit deflated of it all .

So then , just by chance , I did an episode on a misinformable one case and it just exploded and it had such an incredible response to it that I thought maybe this could replace my campfire tales , because they weren't giving me as much joy , you might say , as because they were so easy to put together and shorter and so easy to knock out that , even though

people liked them , it wasn't really giving me any pleasure and I thought what's the point in me doing this if I don't get anything from it ? So that's when I decided to add in the misinformable one case series instead of the campfire tales . Yeah , so a little bit of history and a bit of mentality on what has been going on these past 50 episodes .

And yeah , if you remember from my previous episode I also mentioned I was going to try and get a video podcast going , which I am still working on in the background , but there's still a few moving pieces I need to sort out and stuff like that and I didn't want to rush it .

So maybe in a few weeks I'll be ready to take that next step , which brings me on to last week and I hope you all enjoyed the last episode where I spoke about the Appalachian Trail and some of the disappearances on the trail itself and , like I said , I kind of left you on a bit of a cliffhanger about some rules that people on the Appalachian Trail live by

. So let's play that bit back from last week , shall we ? So , yeah , what is the reason for these rules ? Last week was more about the disappearances and the facts and strange tales , whereas this week is going to be a bit more classic , spooky , other radio , given it's the 50th episode , but mixed in with a bit of a missing 411 .

So whereas last week , like I say , it was more about the disappearances themselves and the facts , this week I'm going to look into the supernatural or unknown side of the trail . So get your tin foil hats on and add the ready guys .

But just before we jump into all that , I've got a couple of sections of shout outs that I wanted to do , just given it's my 50th episode . It's quite a big milestone and I want to highlight some podcasts that have helped me keep going over the last year and a bit . So yeah . So the first podcast I want to shout out is Lauren and Olivia .

Lauren and Olivia . Lauren and Olivia over at the Is this Place Haunted Podcast . Now , you may know , we've done a couple of episodes together and actually just have the best time talking about that Fielding , derek , cora and X Factor , fails and Bravo . That was quite a good score shot , I think , and eventually we do speak about spooky stuff , which is great .

But , yeah , they're really in the flow with their latest series . I'm loving it . So go give them a listen . You won't regret it , and maybe at some point when I'm in Scotland , we might have a good night out with them too . So , yeah , that is this Place Haunted Podcast . And secondly , I wanted to mention Jason over at Odd and Untold , a podcast on YouTube .

He also has a YouTube channel , sorry , so go find him . He has an incredible podcast and , yeah , jason's just so passionate about all things that's strange and spooky and this comes across in his episodes .

He talks about like a load of different things , like ghost experiences , bigfoot stories , alien encounters , and he has loads of different guests on , including , within the next few weeks , yours truly . So , yeah , definitely look out for that one . But yeah , I mean we've spoken quite a lot over the last year .

He's such a great guy and , yeah , we're just yeah , it's nice to have people that have made connections with , like the girls from this Place Haunted , you know , like Jason and a few other people , and podcasts over in America and over the pond and stuff like that .

So yeah , so yeah , go give him a listen at Odd and Untold or a watch on YouTube or both , you know , up to you . And another podcast I highly recommend is from the word ghost podcast , and each week Aaron tries to convince his co . I knew I was going to fuck that up , right that game . Each week Aaron tries to convince his skeptic co host , jamie .

That's me . That goes surreal . I shouted that's me , because that's like their intro . But yeah , spoiler alert , it hasn't happened yet . He hasn't . Aaron hasn't managed to convince Jamie yet . But , yeah , their podcast is a little different .

Might not have you gripped on the edge of your seat in terror , but they're banter's top level and , yeah , just really puts a smile on your face . Also , go follow Jamie's account at death underscore , stair underscore designs , as he did me huge favor earlier in the year and created me my new podcast logo , free , gratis , and it's just incredible .

So thank you to him for that . And , yeah , which is really helped my podcast go to the next level , right ? You might be saying Andy , right , come on , get into it . We're like 10 minutes in , let's get into the spooks , right ? So here we are , let's jump straight in . So , thank you to those guys and go give them a follow and listen .

Right , let's get down . Let's get down to business . Although we ain't defeating no huns on this episode , we're just . You know all about the ghosts and spooks Well , not ghosts , but you know , missing four , one one . She's in that . Anyway , stop rambling and you get into it , right .

So with that first letter , show out out the way , let's jump into the main meat of the episode , if you'll pardon the pun , because I think , firstly , we need to talk about the apparent meat eating cannibal wild men that are apparently out there .

And after a minute , when looking into this theory and why people are going missing on the Appalachian Trail , one name kept springing up on every page and website and that was Dennis Martin . So you might remember , there was a famous case from my previous episode and it was basically this young boy with his brother and a few others .

They were camping with the dads and stuff like that , in the group of people and they went to play a prank . They went to hide together and , as everyone else jumped out to scare the adults , dennis wasn't there but he just literally seconds ago been with his brother , was never found . But there were certain things that happened .

I would go back and listen to last week's episode , so I'll put a link in the description of the episodes you can just click on it . Couldn't be easier . Just click on it and not take it to it and you can hear it here . All about that case .

But yeah , he sort of went missing right from under everybody's nose , which we know is something that is sort of correlates with missing form one cases . But yeah , go back and listen to that . Anyway , back on topic . I suppose my first real idea of these wild men came from watching Wrong Turn , which is a bloody great film . I can love it .

I remember watching it years ago , like I went back and watched it only a few months ago and like the kills and it's so good , like , and I like how this bit says basically wrong turn .

If you haven't seen it , it's about these group of people get stranded on the trail somewhere , Car breaks down or hits a deer or something like that , I can't remember , but basically these people get stranded and there's these three cannibal , inbred , wild men hunting them . Yeah , and it's just , it's a really good film , like it's not too long .

They give like the three wild men , like the three brothers or cousins whatever they are , I don't know what they are Distinct personalities . That's good . The kills and it are really good . So , yeah , go watch it , it's great . But yeah , it's basically set in West Virginia , in the West Virginia wilderness , which obviously is part of the Appalachian Trail .

And another incredible horror film set in North Carolina , which is in the heart of the Appalachian Mountains , is the descent . I probably prefer the descent over wrong turn , but it plays a sort of similar films . So the descent again , if you haven't seen it , is about a group of women who go cave diving in the Appalachian Mountains .

They go off the map down some different cave systems that they shouldn't . They collapse is , they get trapped . They're trying to get out . That's basic premise .

But there's these sort of spoilers , these sort of humanoid golem , like creatures living in there that are basically blind because they live underground but they use their you know these the ears and stuff to hear pray and stuff like that . So would , is it plausible that there's a creature like this that lives within the mountains .

Yeah , of course , like if they got a food source , you know , then then anything's possible and a habitat that they can live in and adapt to . So , even though these are films , I find like quite a bit of reality in them . But , yeah , it has a great ending to the descent .

I remember I think we watched it for my A Levels Film Club , something like that , and the ending just had everybody just shit themselves . Yeah , it's great , let's go watch it .

But , like I was saying , is this what happened to Paul at Dennis Martin , you know , taken by something a man that did report , if you remember , from my last episode , a couple of hours after Dennis had gone missing , a couple of miles away from where he went missing as well , was the sound of a boy screaming , and a witness said he turned to see what was

screaming , to see a man , a shoddily looking man , retreating in the woods holding something . So could this have been a wild man who'd taken Dennis ? Yeah , it's just something to think about , just another little onion , another onion layer , like Shrek would say yeah .

And then remember the heroin story of Eloise Lindsay and her two-week ordeal where she stated that she was stalked by wild men . Now , don't think it's possible that there are communities of feral people able to live in the mountains , of course , I mean , like before we evolved .

It's how we survived as cavemen , we lived outside , we hunted , we , you know , we got to where we are today , but we still started there . So are they really like they are in the film , like just out for human flesh ? No , I don't think so .

I think it's possible that their opportunities stick on us and maybe if they see something they can take , they'll take it , especially maybe times when food is scarce , such as like winter times or something like that . You know , just like any other predator . So , yeah , it adds the possibility to your list of things to be scared about when you go hiking .

Remember your bear spray and your wild man spray too . All right , and yeah , like I say , I'll be putting links in the show notes to this really cool website that I found , with stories on there from missing persons , cases from all over America .

So , yeah , so check the description down below and it will have a link to that website , because it's really cool site , right ?

So , from a theory that I think is actually possible , to a folklore of an animal or cryptid or being or something like that , that is apparently out there stalking and killing people on the Appalachian Trail , and this is , I believe , what those rules are referring to the hide behind .

The hide behind is a knock-a-turn , or just the hide behind , you know , I have to say it like that every time is a nocturnal , fearsome critter from American folklore that prays upon humans that wand the woods and was blamed for the disemparances of early loggers when they failed to report to camp .

As its name suggests , the hide behind is said to be able to conceal itself , so when an observer attempts to look directly at it , the creature quickly hides behind inventive an object or behind the observer , and therefore cannot be seen directly .

Now , the hide behind supposedly uses this ability to stalk human prey without being observed and to attack them without warning . Said victims , including lumberjacks and others who frequent the forests , are then dragged back to the creature's lair . I'd love to have a lair , wouldn't you ? I'd love to have a lair where they would devour the prey .

The creature subsists chiefly upon the intents of his victim and has a severe aversion to alcohol . I'd be alright then , which is therefore considered a sufficient repellent . Tales of the hide behind may have been used as an explanation of strange noises in the forest at night .

Early accounts describe hide behinds as large , powerful animals , despite the fact that no one's able to see them . So the information contradicts itself . If you can see it before it's too late , how can people survive and give a description of what they saw ? You know , that's what I think about it . It just seems like you're contradicting yourself .

Anyhow , not going to spend too much time talking about this cryptid and there's not too many stories regarding it , shockingly , as it apparently is a killer machine , but I thought I would throw it in there .

But , yeah , there's a really cool short film I watched learning about this cryptid called the Hide Behind , which is obviously a very , very creative name for a film about an animal called the Hide Behind . But despite the fact that it is a good watch , despite that fact , sorry , it is a good watch . So , yeah , about 10 minutes long .

And even better , you can watch it on YouTube for free . And again , I will leave a link to it in the show notes . You guys can just click on it after my episode finishes and go and watch it . And also , the guy in the short film is yeah , I mean , there's no animals in this film but it's good looking bear in it .

So , yeah , if you know , you know , and if you like , go watch it . Yeah , it's great . So I'm going to kind of use this halfway point to shower you all with my second and final group of shout outs and recommendations of podcasts for you to go listen to .

So now , like I said , I have some more podcasters that I want to highlight through the last 50 episodes . So the first is a podcast on YouTube channel called Crime and Paranormal , who I'm incredibly jealous of , and , yeah , layton from Crime and Paranormal actually got to speak to the Queen of Spooks herself of her fielding on her podcast .

So , yeah , I was so jealous but , like , I'm going to be hopefully recording an episode at some point with them and yeah , so , keep keep listening up for that .

And they have like a YouTube channel as well , called and like , like somewhere they go sort of to sort of haunted locations and they have something called Late Night with the Ghost Hosts where they talk to people like myself and speak about their experiences and our experiences . So , yeah , go give them a listen .

And also , maria and Jessica got in touch over at the You're Creeping Me Out podcast and I've asked me to let all my listeners know that they need listener submissions for their podcast and your very own scary stories . So please , if you do have one , send it over to them at YCMOPODcom .

So that's YCMOpodcom , and go give them a listen , cause it's a great podcast . It's just like spooky stories . Yeah this is , yeah , the guys on there . They just got such a great rapport . So , yeah , go give them a listen .

And yeah , so onto my last shout out and that comes , we're going back across the pond and to Michelle and Alicia over at the Ramblin Broad podcast . Now , I previously spoke to Michelle on a previous podcast of hers which was called Paranormal State of Mind , and she's amazing to speak to . She's so kind and generous .

She even sent me a sticker which proudly sits on my laptop with all my other stickers . So thank you again for that , michelle . But , yeah , go listen to these two . They have great chemistry and again , just makes those long car journeys enjoyable .

And they asked me to highlight in particular that they have 31 days of Halloween coming up , I presume starting 1st of October . So , yeah , which reminds me actually I need to start mine . Like I've got things planned for my Halloween , what I want to do and stuff for the channel and for the podcast , but I should actually probably plan it out like last year .

But yeah , oh , sorry , that wasn't my last one . I have one last one and that is from some Aussie girls over at the they Don't Stay Dead podcast and they tend to focus on real life ghost stories and they have just the right level of banter , so it's not too scary . But , just like me , it was their 50th episode this week , which was a huge milestone .

So well done , girls , and keep it up . And everybody , go give them a listen . Friendship Boop boop Podcast really does bring people together Like I've met so many people over the last year and a half you know that wouldn't have been speaking to and , yeah , it's a great community .

So go give all those podcasts and YouTube channels I've spoken about a listen and a follow . I'm sure they'd love to hear your stories . Well , so , yeah , back into the latter half of the missing 411 cases this week , right .

So onto quite the hot topic lately and an idea that I think be more believable than some of the cryptids that have said to been found on the trail , and that , of course , is UFO encounters and abductions .

I mean , just personally , I find it more plausible and beings like the hide behind , which could just be native American folklore , total loggers and other people to stop them taking down trees . But yeah , alien life and UFOs , in my opinion , are 100% real , just given the amount of other galaxies , planets , universes , blah , blah , blah , that sort of thing .

I've said it all before in podcasts that I've worked on UFO stories before . But yeah , I found this incredible story of a couple in the 60s apparently abducted by aliens and in my research it said to be the first ever credible alien abduction story . So let's get into it . Betty and Barney Hill both worked long hours in Portsmouth .

Also , I've just got one thing to say Right , did America ever come with any names themselves or places Like every single place I can think of in America ? Or like I've been looking over the map , like Google Maps , of America , and I should be like , oh , that's an English town . Oh , that's an English city . Oh , that's in Europe .

Oh , my God , that's this little town in Europe . That's a little town here . That's a little town Like I know . It's like not the oldest of countries , I get that , but like Portsmouth , there's a Portsmouth in the UK . I'm not gonna go any deeper on my rant , but yeah , come what was , I was , I was there in Washington , anywhere I don't know .

But yeah , that's my beef with America . That's all I'm gonna say , my only beef , to be fair . So , yeah , I do love America or otherwise , just not in the place names . Oh right , digress . Betty was a social worker who handled child welfare cases , and Barney was a postal worker who often drove 60 miles a day and worked the night shift .

In addition to their full-time jobs , the couple also volunteered frequently and as an interracial couple . Before these those unions were fully accepted , the Hills were passionate and advanced in advancing the civil rights movement . They volunteered at the local church and were both members of the NAACP . Yet AACP won't let me be , won't let me be on MTV .

Oh , what Hot . After that , after deciding to take a well-deserved break , the Hills planned a spontaneous road trip from Montreal to Niagara Falls . Though the couple had been married for 16 months , they had never been on their honeymoon honeymoon and viewed this trip as the opportune time .

They got in their car and impulsively left for the three-day trip , without even stopping by a bank to get extra money . And before we go any further , can we just say hooray for Betty and Barney for breaking down those barriers and their passion for civil rights , like whoop , whoop , yeah . Good on them . But this is where the story starts to get spoopy .

On their last night of the trip , the Hills departed at Dinah in Vermont around 10 pm , hoping to make it back to Portsmouth around 2 am . However , as they drove they noticed a bright light in the sky that appeared to be following them . With every mile they drove , the light grew bigger and brighter .

As a World War II veteran and a plane enthusiast , barney Hill did not think much of the light at first , as it was the middle of the night . He figured the light could be coming from a commercial plane or a helicopter and just assumed it was a satellite that had gone off course . Something like that . Pretty reasonable .

Nonetheless , the light continued to follow them Even as they drove through the winding road to the White Mountains . Sometimes the light moved behind the trees and disappeared , only to reappear moments later . Eventually , the couple grew so curious that they decided to pull over and investigate . Never a wise idea .

Through a pair of binoculars , betty realized that the light was not a satellite but was actually some kind of object spinning in the air , presumably a flying saucer of some kind . Barney also grew concerned . As a pragmatic intellectual man , he was skeptical of any extra-terrestrial explanation , but he had no alternative guess as to what the light could be .

The couple continued driving until he reached Route 3 in Lincoln Route 3 . When the object hovered just about 100 feet above the car . Barney abruptly stopped , got out of the car with a handgun and saw something that was as big as a jet , as flat as a pancake .

Behind the windows of the object were beatings in grey uniforms who told Barney to put down his binoculars . He tried to raise his pistol but somehow found himself unable to Realizing that he was about to be captured . He ran back to the car and sped off .

At some point , betty and Barney Hill heard strange beeping noises from their truck , felt drowsy and eventually lost consciousness . The next morning the couple woke up in their house in Portsmouth with no recollection of the events that occurred the night before .

However , barney's shoes have been scuffed , bay's dress has been torn and both their watches have stopped working and trying to piece together what happened , betty spent hours in the library reading about the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena , a civilian UFO group , and she filed a report to the Air Force concerned by radiation .

In the next couple of years , the couple suffered from disturbing dreams and anxiety . They began seeing a psychiatrist named Benjamin Simon , who helped them piece together what happened on that night . And again . This is where the tale gets even stranger . Through months of sessions in hypnosis a popular technique .

At the time the couple began to recall what happened to them and I just want to throw in there , before we get into what they do with these regression sessions they thought they saw . I want to plug another film called the Fourth Kind . It's this similar sort of thing .

It's apparently found , it's like real footage and they've cast actors and stuff to play the people in the footage and they sort of play it side by side and that's the film and it's basically about alien abduction .

I think it's like people who think they've been abducted and they're sort of interviewing them and they're like regressing them like this and hypnotizing them . Yeah , it's a very strange film . It's actually quite creepy . They say like it kind of ruined owls for me .

Like I love owls , like after reading there's a book in the UK called Are you Afraid of the Owl ? Who's Afraid the Dark or something like that , like my childhood book Love Owls . Right , that film ruined them for me .

And they say basically there's like owls , these people , after they apparently had alien encounters , would wake up at 3am to owls looking in the window at them . It turns out that owls were the aliens . I can't remember how they explained it but , yeah , ruined it for me . So , a Go Watch the Fourth Kind . It's a great film .

That's your third film recommendation , this episode . And B would I ever do this regression ? Would I fuck ? Absolutely no . If I can't remember it , can't remember it . Yeah , don't care , would not be doing it because I don't think they particularly liked what they found . So let's carry on .

According to the hills , the UFO had landed on the car as they were speeding down the mountain and put them to sleep . Afterwards , the grey beings they had seen earlier had led them up a long ramp into the spacecraft . Once inside the hills , were separated and individually tested .

They were asked to climb onto a metal table and remove their clothes , where the grey beings would pluck their hairs , take clippings from their nails and peel off parts of their skin . Each sample was placed on something that resembled a glass slide , and the grey beings also probed needles into their arms , legs and heads . Imagine a needle in the head .

Jesus Bet , you recalled that one needle was even inserted into a stomach as a pregnancy test . Throughout the ordeal , betty and Barney had claimed that one of the beings was the leader who was observing the process from the side , and later , along with the leader , betty asked the craft where the craft had flown .

Under hypnosis , she replicated the star map shown to her on the ship and years later a woman named Marjorie Fish attempted to interpret Betty's reproduction on the map and concluded that the beings had come from the star system Zethereticuli . No idea where that is , but you know Through . The story of Betty and Barney .

Hill was not the first tale of alien abduction there's was the most well documented and feasibly legitimate . After this encounter , betty Hill continued doing research on UFOs for the remainder of her life and the story of the hill became one of the most widely publicised alien encounters in history .

It even shaped the way alien encounters are discussed today in the media and how they featured on spooky alien radio . So , yeah , now the sky's the limit for their legacy right now . Because , yeah , I really like this story , because I think to myself what have they got to gain from it ? Like you know , it's just why would you tell this story ?

I just don't get it unless it happened , and then like to have it all documented and , going from this regression , I think it's yeah , like other people at the time , I think it's quite credible story . And is this what's happening sort of more widely in America , in the national parks , there's reports of UFOs from all over .

This was just the story I got from this area . Okay , now , starting to wrap up the episode , I told you you needed tinfoil hats , didn't I ? We're wrapping the episode up a little bit . I do have another encrypted slash USOFO thing that has been seen at Appalachia .

And yeah , this story was so strange when I was reading up about it , as it seemed like there were multiple witnesses who saw something fall from the sky . And this , of course , is the story of the Flatwoods monster . And yeah , the story goes as follows it wasn't , it was tinfoil hats off . Just yet , it was almost fully dark .

On the evening of September 12 , 1952 . Edward May , freddie May , neil Tully and Tommy Hire All young residents of the town of Flatwoods were playing on the lawn at the Flatwoods Elementary School . Suddenly a bright light streaked across the sky overhead and appeared to crash into a hillside on G Bailey Fisher's Farm .

The boys ran to see what they think they saw in the sky the Mays homes on the way and they stopped to tell their mother , kathleen May , what they had seen . Kathleen called on National Guardsman Eugene Lemon . Why should I have a surname Lemon ?

I'm really sorry if your surname is Lemon and you're listening , by the way , it's hilarious and the family dog , Richie , to accompany her and the boys to the crash site . Now , upon reaching the crash site , the group saw a pulsing red light .

Lemon shined his flashlight up the hill and the group witnessed a terrifying sight A 10 foot tall creature with a head shaped like a spade that was what appeared to be in a dark metal dress . The creature's hands were twisted and clawed and what seemed to be his eyes glowed in an eerie orange colour . It appeared to levitate off the ground .

A strange , sickening mist hung in the air . The creature hissed and glided away toward the witnesses . The group then turned and fled in horror . Yeah so would I . Some of the members of the group suffered from throat irritation , vomiting and nausea which persisted for days .

These symptoms were passed off as side effects of hysteria , but it's worth noting that all these are telltale sign of exposure to mustard gas . So I've heard of the Flatwoods monster . I've not done a huge amount of research into it which I need to but it seems to be some sort of alien creature .

I mean , was that it's ejected from a pod of something like a bigger mothership or something , and it's just landed on earth ? It does seem strange . The day after September 12th incident in Flatwoods , another strange sighting occurred near Strange Creek , about 20 miles south of Flatwoods .

Reportedly , george and Edith Snickowski and their 18 month old son were driving through the rural area between Clay and Braxton County on route 4 when their car suddenly died . Mr Snickowski attempted to restart the car to no avail , and it was night time and the road was deserted .

While there the couple were trying to decide what to do , a foul , sulfurous smell filled the air and their baby began to cry . A strange bright light filled the darkness and the couple witnessed a 10ft tall creature hovering in front of their car .

The description is similar to that of the original sighting , except the monster was not wearing what it presumed to be its spade shaped hood . Instead , its head was reportedly reptilian and bony . The creature dragged its lizard like hand across the hood of the car before drifting away into the woods .

As soon as the monster was outside , the car restarted and the couple sped away . I'm slightly skeptical about the Flatwoods monster . There's not been a huge amount of appearances of it or reports of it by towns , people or hikers or that sort of thing . However , the town of Flatwoods does now have annual festivals celebrating the monster , the town itself .

It has museums dedicated to the monster and even diners and things like that along the trail that are filmed , themed like the Flatwoods monster brand , if you will . Why would those people make it up in the 50s ? You've got to think . This goes back a long time .

Maybe something was seen , especially this report of these people the next day seeing something similar . Did they hear about it ? It was the 50s , you've got to think . Maybe word doesn't spread that as fast as it does today . And that sulfurous smell , that mustard gas smell , was reported above .

And yeah , I think it's strange , but I think it's just been spun in the modern day . So do I believe the Flatwoods monster is part of the missing 411 taking people . No , I just think it's a cool piece of folklore and , yeah , it sort of goes with the whole alien thing because people see it crash from the sky .

So , who knows , maybe there is a Flatwoods monster out there , maybe there isn't , who knows ? But yeah , I think people have seen something in the 50s and it's just spun into this huge thing now in the modern day . It's like a selling point , isn't it ? Oh , go to Flatwoods , because they've got a Flatwoods diner , they've got a Flatwoods festival .

Yeah , flatwoods monster festival , flatwoods monster dining . You know that sort of thing . So , yeah , think about what you will . And with that I think I'm going to wrap up this episode . I know it's been a bit of a mishmash between my main Spooky Ellen radio episodes and , you know , my missing 411 cases , but I've enjoyed it .

I've enjoyed doing the research , I've enjoyed giving my shout outs to people who have been there for me over the last 50 episodes . And , yeah , next milestone is 100 and I hope you're all still here listening to me in another 50 episodes . So thank you again for listening .

I will just let you know in 2 weeks time it will be back to a Spooky Ellen radio episode and hopefully , all things permitted , I will be doing my main Spooky story and then my talk with Jason over at Odden and Told to be the listener story that week . So it's going to be a really , really good one . So tune in for that .

The film club I can't remember what the film was . I was going to be watching for it , so I'll do a new post on Instagram . So follow me to find out what that is , so you can follow along the film club with me .

Go , follow me on Instagram , tiktok , all that sort of jazz which I'm very active on those socials , and if you want to see the posts and stuff that I post about the episodes , then that's obviously all on there . So , yeah , thank you everybody who's downloaded . Even if you just downloaded one episode , I appreciate it . Yeah , I've had a great time .

Thank you everybody who's supported me on this journey . Special thanks to Mark and Shauna , who keep me going , who keep me sort of sane , sort of insane , in the membrane . So , yeah , thank you again everybody . Two weeks time , spooky on Radio episode will be out and yeah , thanks again and catch you on the flippity flip . Bye .