The SEC & ACC Questions Keeping Us Awake (Part 1)

Welcome to the solid verbal Hell that for me.

I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well, I want to be happy. You want to be happy for day Ato State?

Is that? Whoo whoo? And them and tie Dan Rubinstein. The calendar has officially turned to July.

I notice.

I notice because ESPN updated its college football standings page, which I that's it might as well be like somebody in Bristol or whoever runs their website, like we're seeing a lot of unusual activity from the north shore of Chicago because I'm on that page every day, Like, oh right, Cincinnati's in the Big twelve. Oh right, Army made the move to the American Oh and so like when we are thinking of show topics and like organizing teams and

Oh well, I've been going to that page now, Yeah, for the last five months, waiting for him to update it. Yeah, the new conference structure and all that, just as a reference point. Like you said, we do this show sometimes you got to call up a page quickly just to remember who is where, especially now with everyone being elsewhere this season. And yeah, so officially ESPN has updated it. You know our adage here on the show, at least my adage. Once you turn the calendar to July, that

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Which we can discuss momentarily. If you are new here, Hello, Welcome.

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Still a little early, yeah, start talking about things like that, but we're working on it. We will get back to as soon as we can. At a verballers dot com, Dan, what is this episode today? Exactly?

It's too glad you asked two parter.

You know how when you're at a party and you meet your usual suspects and somebody works in finance, somebody works for blobby bla, somebody's a teacher something. You're just like, cool, great, nice to meet you. That sounds cool. But then you come across somebody who says, actually, technically horse dentist, right, And then you say to yourself or you say to that person, I have so many questions. How does one become a horse dentist? Do you have crazy horse dentistry stories?

Like?

What are your hours like? Specific breeds and types of horses? All horses?

Do you go donkey like?

There are a lot of questions when you come across something that or somebody that is particularly interesting. And so now again nobody praised like the solid verbal as we enter into preview season. This is not a preview episode, but this is just back of our head what we've been ruminating on, what has been keeping us up nights when we're thinking about the Mountain West, what has been keeping us up at night thinking about Arkansas's twenty twenty four.

It is for sure what's been keeping the question, to say the least. I mean, as we get into full on preview mode here, I think the intention is we're actually going to answer some of these questions or try to answer some of the questions we have now. But being so, it is a little bit early. Being so, we're just trying to get reacclimated with who's on which teams, which teams are on which conferences, things of that nature.

We're breaking it down by all sorts of different regions, conferences, teams, stories. I don't know where you want to start, but I feel like we should start asking.

We should what is of all the questions that you jotted down? So we full disclosure. We kind of split this up a little bit. We went conference by conference, We did a group of five, We did some bigger picture college football stuff sort of all over the map.

I wrote down what do I do with my love for usf lasts longer than four hours?

I have a USF thing here too.

I don't know we want to start there, but man, Alex Golish and I staying up nights thinking about Byron Brown. He's really fun. Actually, maybe we don't start there. Okay, So I was assigned or assigned myself the see we can start there. So these are my big picture conference questions and you can decide which of these you want to attack.

Okay, this is your choice. Okay.

What will the SEC feel like without Nick Saban? What are just the vibes going to be? Because even with Georgia's recent success, Nick Saban is unquestionably has been the alpha of that conference for as long as basically we've been doing the show. And even as Georgia has been that alpha, h Nick Saban beat him twice in the SEC championship games Nick Saban in Alabama.

Sub question to that, how will he be on game day? Hmm?

Will he be a goofball when they're doing like a weird cheese it mask thing with Pat McAfee, Like, what vibe will Nick Saban bring to the game day set? I think that's kind of interesting. Which team had it good in the old SEC? Or will we feel that about come you know, Halloween time that because they were in the SEC East and their schedules maybe have been fortunate for whatever reason. Now that the SEC is a more wide open schedule, we're like, oh man, they had

Divisionless now yeah, divisionless?

Right?

Is there a program in the SEC that will become a program that just sort of is They're not amazing, they're not terrible, Like who are the candidates to just sort of exist and coast along? Like they plug holes when there's a leak, But they're also not zooming on anybody. Who will be the first media member to gleefully tweet quote, welcome to the SEC. When Texas or Oklahoma struggle, I've got my candidates. I'm sure you do too. Tie one

To break the platforms. Yeah, on which we get them.

Yeah, of course. I'm just telling you now, if you're going to see Nick Saban put on h Moana mask on game Day, it will be the most full circle solid ripoff moment that has ever occurred.

There will be a moment where the third quarter is sponsored by Mowana two in theaters.

Now, of course, of course there will be.

And it'll be best when Sean McDonough does the promo Moan.

Too Molana Dell and then now, yeah, of course.

I think the question to me that jumps out the most outside of the Mowana one is the void left by Saban. Yeah, at Alabama. And I've been saying this exact same thing now for months on end. After the Saban news went down, and after we heard about him going to Game Day and Kaylin de Borr was hired, We've had all these things that have transpired the last six months, seven months or so. Sabin leaving that conference,

But TV's different. TV is like he's gonna have to be entertaining quickly. He's going to have to make a point and support it with likability, even if he's saying something bad about your team. Like it's a different animal to speak in those types of bursts. Right, Leek Horso has had his stick. Pat McAfee has his shtick, you know, Desmond Howard is smiling and has his thing. Kirk Herbstreet

No, I think that's all fair.

But I'm really curious to see what that dynamic is like, definitely, because typically when you've got a guy who's had such a long story career like Saban, when you put a guy like that in a booth and you give them an opera in a studio in this case, and give him an opportunity that just sort of upload all of their information to you, you get a lot of really interesting nuggets out of that. And I think Saban's going to be really, really good in that role. I'm excited

And there's the really interesting and I think makes game day more watchable than it's been recently. And I don't say that because I dislike anybody on game day or anything like that. I just my life has changed to the point where I don't want, don't have the time before the games to really watch a pregame show. The Tony Romo thing where he's played and game planned against so many of the teams he's now analyzing so recently that it's going to change three or four years down

Bring that, Yeah, he can absolutely bring that.

It's you look at the rest of the game day set and they either haven't done that recently or the guests don't feel free to speak freely about those types of things. Whereas Nick Saban, even though I'm sure he's loyal to coaching, friends and stuff like that, Like, here's what you have to do when you play against Tennessee, here's what you have to think about in the back

Who is the SEC team though, that's gonna just puts along.

It's going to coast.

Yeah, my guess the most competent, like aggressively competent, but nothing like terribly above that or terribly below that is probably Kentucky, Kentucky.

I'm looking right at it. I was thinking Kentucky. Maybe Auburn in a year or two.

Like Kentucky may have missed its window to have that. I mean like they had a special year a couple of years ago, three years ago, now, whatever it was they had that special year. I just think their opportunity to have that special year every so often, that window may have closed. And it's quarterback dependent for them. And maybe that quarterback you know is on their roster this year.

Yeah, I could see I can make a case for Kentucky. I guess I could make a case for Auburn.

Ole Miss, by the way, is the flip Ole Miss could be the big beneficiary with how aggressive they've been in the portal not playing every SEC West team, And we'll see what that actually means in practice moving forward. But I think they're probably the big winner out of all of this because they don't have the annual rivalry with Alabama. Mississippi State in the short term is rebuilding like they're I think in a really nice place. But I also have with Ole Miss in terms of a question.

I have here.

Let me make sure I get my word incorrect here. Oh man, where did.

I lose there?

It is?

Will it ever get better for Ole Miss than it appears to be right now? And like the old Andy Bernard quote, I wish there was a way to know you were in the good old days when you were actually in them before it's too late with what they bring back, with what their schedule looks like right now, with where their rival is in terms of a rebuild like this is kind of a great time for ole Miss, and I hope they appreciate it.

Well, I'm sure they do.

Ole Miss, I think, is one of those teams that we have mentioned frequently in the off season as Yeah, definitely a beneficiary of the expanded playoff system. The path is wider. I keeps saying that, I feel like I've broken record, but the path is wider for teams like

I do wonder though, with regard to Lane Kiffen, if he sees this as everything's pointing to this year and if ole Miss really does break through, if this is what he uses to sort of vault himself to a

I mean the question I would have to that though, which big jobs are going to be coming open?

Which big jobs are on the precipice of fuddy you never know?

You this is college foot well, you never know, and especially in this era where I do think playoff qualification is going to stand for a lot. Maybe Florida. I don't think Florida wants Lane Kiffin. I think they want Jed Fish. I'm going to stick with that until it happens. But outside of that, which seems to be a fairly obvious opening at the end of this season, things go the way we think. Sure don't see a whole lot of those marquee jobs that are out there. Doesn't mean

But that's a whole thing, that's the whole sport. You never know which coach is going to get on a motorcycle with a former volleyball player during the summer, right, you never know, and that and when that happens. Laane is there, Laane is there? What do you got for the ACC? The ACC the All Costco Conference. By the way, it pains me that when we did our episode a few weeks back talking about the All State twelve or the Big twelve All.

State or whatever. Yeah, Brett or Mark is thinking of naming this thing. It pains me that we did not mention the All Costco Conference. We talked about it in our slack channel. Yeah, we we have been making that joke for the last couple of years. And when the rubber really met the road and it came time to roll that joke out in a more official capacity, we forgot to. I forgot I just listened to a four hour podcast about Costco. By the way, nobody is a bigger Costco expert in this moment than I am.

By the way, I have questions about other teams in the SEC.

Not to backtrack, oh, the SEC, but I thought that was all you had, that those are the big picture conference.

Oh continue, then I'm sorry again.

I'm being introduced to a horse dentist and I got to go down a path. Ty, you tell me. I mean, is there a team in the SEC that you would like to talk about?

And wonder? What my question is? Did you do every team in the SEC?

I kind of I think I did? What are your We don't have to we don't have to go through and talk, but this is where I stand.

What are your questions about Florida?

Could it?

My question is like, are we like doom dooming Florida right now and our heads too much that like, could Florida be like a really fun candidate, Like they're not going to be great, but they could go eight and four in an entertaining way, maybe save billion Apier's job. Like they're they're kind of my ZAG team, Like everybody's shoveling dirt on Florida, Like what what does it look like? What does a Florida Zag look like?

This year?

Yeah? I thought I wonder, do you a little bit, because there have been plenty of instances over the last couple of years where you look at Florida and you know that there is plenty of talent on hand and they haven't always been super organized. But we thought maybe bringing billion Api or over would would help with that to some extent. Maybe it has, maybe it hasn't. We can talk about that more when we get into preview mode. But the talent is never really in question, and I

Sort of is given the schedule, but we're assuming things about the schedule. There are good players that play for Florida. There are reasons to like Florida right now. It's just the vibes don't seem strong.

The vibes.

The other team that I have thought a lot about going into this conference is Oklahoma. Yes, because the schedule's brutal, it's because it's a that I have a lot of respect for. I really like brand Venables. I think they do it right. I think the structure is there, the stability is there on the administrative level, which oftentimes is

Not unlike what they did last year.

They're better last season, but they would need to amplify that by at least two to three times better.

If they come out.

And go against the schedule like this, take that big step forward, that in and of itself would be a huge story. But I just don't know how confident I feel in that right now.

All right, I'm going to go through this quickly. Okay, I have pop with Oklahoma? Like where does the pop come from?

Yeah?

Like, basically, can Jackson Arnold be as excellent as he probably needs to be? They've addressed receiver, offensive line took a step back, whatever, But like that's the big thing with Oklahoma that at their best even in the Brent Ventables era with Dylan Gabriel. It's the pop that has really secured them those big wins, and so a lot of questions. Oklahoma are very excited to see it. Other side of the ball for Texas is my question, like, was Texas big twelve good or are they just good good?

How about this one?

Ty?

Can Kalin de Bor build a race ready boat in Tuscaloosa? And by that, I'm using the phrase boat race because Washington won a bunch of like weird clunky games last year they did. You can't do that in Tuscaloosa.

Now.

You can't just get away with beating Arkansas thirteen ten every year because you will start losing thirteen ten as well. No, so that to me is interesting. I have down here is Mike Elko America's most helpful hardware store employee that you go to a hardware store and you're like, all right, here's what I'm working on with my deck, and I am just lost. And then there's there's a guy named Steve and he's like, you're looking for a reverse box sander and I know exactly where that's in row fourteen

If I do like that, I was just at the hardware store the other day. Did you have a helpful employee?

He may actually have been named Steve too, with every single hard work with the vest on, Yeah, with the vest very helpful.

He's like, no, what you're looking here, you're looking for a finishing lacker, and what you're doing right now is you're looking for a soothing lacker, and it's totally different things. You would never want to use that on a deck. I just made up all of those.

I have.

Can Mississippi State quickly become fart spray?

Fart spray? Yes, Mississippi State continue.

Their schedule is super sandwichy and they may not be good, but given the speed at which they're probably going to run their offense, they get a bunch of teams right after, right before, like in awkward spots. Can they be that disgusting spray that you see on social media being used at like fast food windows?

Far I have not seen this social media trend.

Oh, it's horrendous. It seems horrendous, but that's what I'm looking forward to. They're not going to be good in the short term, but they have like a bunch of advance spots on their schedule this year.

I feel like all the all the hawk toot stuff has crowded out any kind of farts.

I don't understand that reference explain it in detail tonight.

We'll continue.

All right, Okay, much quicker?

TI Are we sleeping on the fact that it's reasonable to look at Nico being a superhuman bound for New York.

I texted with friend of the show Tim Murray A Viisen, Yeah this weekend, and he's all in on Nico. Ah Man, I feel like I'm in on Nico too, just unlimited highlights that I saw from the spring game. Definitely looks the part. Definitely looks the part. Seems as if he gives that offense a little bit more flair. We won't know until we actually see him out there in September.

Really I have down here for Miszoo that is there a team that is more qualified to be the SEC's if should team, if Miszoo is in fact Miszoo, they should win this game. If Missoo is in fact Miszoo, when you look at their schedule in mid October, they should win this game. Right That to me is I would think, yeah, that is my if should team LSU is super fascinating. I mean everybody like I have down here for LSU, like they're the multiverse team of the SEC.

And be like bick to that.

It all makes sense, totally, totally reasonable and my favorite one of all tie. And I'm not going to dwell on South Carolina. We've done, We've had South Carolina conversations. I want Vanderbilt. And my question is should Vanderbilt fully lean into being the SEC's snake bite program? Do you know what a snake bite is with regard to NBA players. I know, I only learned it this morning, so I give you full credit.

I know I know what it means to be snake bitten like Mark pryor totally former shot that cub snake bitten with injuries and that sort of thing. But beyond that.

No, Sometimes you hear about players being dirty in the NBA, like everybody's like John Stockton, totally dirty player, and you're like,

Given like their squeaky clean image of academic institution that may or may not have the stadium.

Jerry Kill coming in as like a consultant and offensive assistant or assistant head coach Timback, but not the Tim Back coming in as the new offensive coordinator. So it's like the the zach kittleisation. Yeah, from Houston Baptist to Western Kentucky. I think from a few years ago Bailey's appy. So they're like bringing the whole crew back and now to Nashville. Like, could they just lean into the like villainous whatever, nothing matters. We might all be out of

Dan?

Could they be that for me? We shall see.

Shall we talk about the ACC next?

I think you had the acc and I did have.

A west Like, where do you want to go next?

While I'm on a roll time? Yeah, while you're on a.

Roll, give me a few more questions that are really keeping you up at night?

Will we get incredible travel graphic maps during these games?

I have in part two when we get to part two of this, Yeah, I have a similar thought.

Like it's I don't know, like fran Brown's head atop a cartoon plane traveling across and back and forth the United States. We're gonna get a lot of those like this is how many miles Virginia Tech has traveled this year?

A lot of spreadsheets, making the rounds on college football Reddit, that type of ying.

Yeah, which new team will make the biggest dent in the ACC? That they will be the ones knocking. I don't know if any of them will make a big dent, but if there is a team Stanford, Cal SMU, the most obvious call is SMU because of where they were last year. But they haven't necessarily built Power five lines all the time, so that could be a new thing for the Mustangs. And to what extent will Florida State and Clemson litigation wanting to leave the conference the future

You know, the one constant over the last couple of years as being a college football fan and podcasts like you and I are. Yeah, it feels like every time we let our guard down and feel like every time, oh okay, we have clarity on this. Now we can move on. Every time, especially in the preseason, especially through July and August. It's happened the last two years. Now

Mean, look, we're due for any sort of it's college football. So as we enter July August, like, I just will never be surprised if four days before the season starts, Smack Brown retires, right that, Like, there's just going to be something like, oh, he's done.

That's it.

Not a break will be that thing, right because there's a thing every year like that, Yeah, what will be that thing that we got to break into kind of our normal schedule and record an emerge a pod or something because people want to hear about this this news item.

There will be that thing.

I you know, whether it's the ACC or not, it remains to be seen. But I'm mindful of this now. I had been burnt too many times. As we said, Earl, I'm ready to be hurt again.

I have is Dabo the worst hardware store employee in America. He's he's the Brent, He's the Gary where you're just like no wrong Isle, Like, no, we don't. We don't carry lugnuts Gary in what still ales Clemson? And last year it was on the road. It was the horrific start against Duke with the red zone struggles. It was

Dabo, Yeah, doesn't doesn't know what ale the laquer is in, but definitely has some thoughts in the political climate, like.

That's what you'll get the lacquer industry.

Yeah, if you if you ask Dabo a question, where's the lacker? You're you're going to get a little bit more than you bargained for. Yeah, absolutely, nice, nice guy. Don't give me a nice guy. But isn't as helpful as the aforementioned Steve with the vest.

You asked him about wrenches, and instead of telling you which wrench to get and where the wrenches are, he just has thoughts on the idea of using a wrench.

The idea behind the wrench. Yet right, exactly you know where the wrench started? Exactly?

I have down here? Is col playing the weirdest schedule in America? They kind of are. I don't know if you looked at it, it's so weird. It's so weird.

I have down here. I just don't understand the luve. Does that make me a bad person? I don't know, but I've been hurt before by the time because experience.

Is this because of the conversation we had on our bonus episode about Papa John's Instagram feed.

Oh it is a great feed. Let's be very cool.

He quotes himself probably not a great guy, maybe not, but quotes himself every third Yeah, posting.

I have down here? Winning as a skill? Is it one Brent Key possesses m I wonder about that, losing close games, winning close games, Like, will they win close more than they lose close this year? Like with the experience they bring back, especially Haines King.

We're really high on Haines King here on this show. Yeah, we're King makers.

I'm a little bit.

Worried about how high we are on on Haines King.

I have Can Manny Diez be defensive? Tedford like he just needed to find his place, right, Jeff Tedford found what the San Joaquin Valley Fresno State now different parts of their lives, of course, but like given the pressure he faced at Miami as a head coach, getting the time at Penn State, given that there won't be nearly the pressure at Duke, given that you know so much of the roster has turned over, a new quarterback, knew

I don't know. I haven't seen him, but he seems like if he is as advertised and we only saw him here and there, but he looks like a god among insects. He is a monster of a kid. I am dying to see what he can do in the ACC. I mean, if he is half as good as we thought he was going to be last season, again limited action, I think he could take that conference by storm. It could be very interesting, especially if they have that defense.

I have, well serious, well serious, Will Syracuse be the ACC's weirdest team, Like, given how they're probably going to play on both sides of the ball, given Kyle McCord, given you know, bringing back an old transfer in the secondary from you know, to LSU, back from LSU, all those types, like, will they be an extremely weird team in year one under Fran Brown?

I assume yes. I assume yes.

Like I assume Syracuse will beat somebody terrific and inexplicably lose to like a clear non bowl team by twenty That's what I assume Syracuse season in year one, Fran Brown will be like, I have down here, what is this year's nine and three flavor for NC State? Boison Berry losing on a fake field goal? Like, what is their nine and three flavor? How do they get to nine and three?

Yes? Like it's preordained, right, it's it's been.

You're almost reverse engineering because you know how it's going to end up.

Correct. It's just a matter of how are they going to get there? NC State?

To me, if I'm being honest talking about Malik Murphy, the Grayson McCall thing has, oh, of course captivated me because I thought he was going to leave before last season, not to say he was going to go to NC State, and I think there were like Florida rumors. I think there were Auburn rumors for Grayson McCall. It didn't obviously work out. He stuck around with Coastal Carolina, got hurt,

Yeah, they'll win at Clemson. Plot twist M Night Shamalan, M Dave Shyamalan lose to Stanford and Calan back to back weeks. Right, that's you know, that'll be the fun plot twist for NC State. I have down here. Can Virginia quietly shift to winning close exclusively through speed with your former favorite notreed aimer Chris Tyree. They kind of lost a bunch of close games last year. They did, they did Virginia, and I think they're gonna go with

I have down here?

Is Virginia Tech real or fake? Good SMU right place, right time? Things seem bleak for Pitt. Does that mean they'll be weirdly nine and three, ten and two this year?

Yeah? Speaking of reverse engineering the none and three? Yeah, how does it happen that Pit goes not? Yeah?

They feel it feels crazy bleak. Now they hire a new offensive coordinator, they're going to try to play fast. I think Nate Yarnell's promising. They return a bunch of guys on offense. But still, and maybe it was just a like last year thing filled Yourkovic vibes were down, vibes were terrible. But I don't know, man, things seem very bleak in Pit.

I just remember some of the conversations we had about filder Kovic, and it wasn't so much you and I as it was people on our discord at for bowlers dot Com and the way that he went from promising transfer to backup order back to oh no, like he's just like not gonna play anymore.

It was.

It was such a stark contrast from start to finish that I'm not sure I ever gave myself a chance to live it down last year. It was kind of a wild turn that I didn't see coming. He's from that part of the country, He's from Western ba Like, it just really stuck up on me.

I'm gonna fully cop to something. I at one point decided to start toying with the idea of convincing you that J. T. Daniels was still playing for a number of teams and seeing how far down that road I can get to with you. But I decided not to. The other thing I have is I feel nothing about Boston College.

Will that change?

Yeah, Well, Jeff Hafley left. Now they got Bill O'Brien. I think that makes them interesting. It makes them makes them a point of conversation. Got the local kid back in.

They're running shop chin dimple.

I don't know.

That seems just like like we kind of know how this is going to end. Like Boston College maybe is that team that upsets somebody but still goes three and nine. Like, it's hard to see. It's hard to see the recruiting going in a fun, interesting place that they're competing with, you know, big schools for guys in PA or New Jersey or something like that. I just I don't know. I kind of think it's a lose lose situation. So those are my ACC questions.

I do like Thomas Castellanos, their quarterback. He had a few good games last.

Year and I have score sixty points a game.

B see, they will need to score a lot of points. Yeah, before we go on to part two here, do.

You have any acc questions or anything like that that to bookend.

I mean, my big one, My big one is Malik Murphy. Beyond that, it was Grayson McCall and I think beyond that, if we further zoom out, it was what you mentioned at the very top, and that is just the longer term sustainability of the conference and what kind of weirdness comes as a result of it. You know, like when we start seeing things through the lens of money, Yeah, you get really weird, interesting answers to like and everyone's got their own answer for how they're going to like

Up, I left off Miami and Florida State. By the way, Miami is my acc if should yeah, look, if Miami is Miami should win this game, that game, this game, that game, especially given what's on their schedule where those games are played.

If cam moart is cam Wart, if he.

Is everything that we have heaped onto him, yeah, should win that game rather comfortably. Miamis Miami has to be the.

If should, the Classic Ift should?

The Classic Ift should. And then for Florida State, I'm just wondering why it's DJU. I'm just still kind of wondering why they Florida State looked at the landscape, and I know, I truly think that if Florida State is excellent this year or even just really good, I think it's an incredible reflection on Mike Norvell and the job he will have done by that point, given what they lose.

With Carolina is a huge enigma. I have no idea what to make in North Carolina. And again it's early. We haven't fully done the research in any of these schools, but North Carolina, I have no idea what to expect from the Tar Hills.

I can tell you what to expect from Max Johnson. Oh, he will make three throws every game in which use after which you say to yourself, holy cow, that was incredible. And he will make three more throws in that same game where you will say to yourself, holy cow, why oh why did he ever consider even trying that?

Right? That's how you hear about quarterbacks who can make all the throws. You can't, no, no, he can.

It to be understood, Yeah, he doesn't make the throws the way Quin yours makes the throws. There's a lot of pop gun arm in there. He's carrying the mantle for one Bryant monies the all time great pop gun arm.

But he's had some disappointing offensive lines in front of him. He's had something like.

That.

But he's serviceable. You know, he's serviceable.

He can run an offense. He gives you some stability. It is kind of an in between time now with losing Drake May before him, you know that they've had quarterbacks come through North Carolina and be very marketable to the next level. But it's a question of is there enough balance on the team beyond those quarterbacks to really

He will give you the correct change at the hardware store. Correct, Okay, same page.

So look, we're gonna get to part two here on our next episode. You and I both also have G five thoughts, not the least of which is the USSEF stuff. Yeah, very high in USF this year. I can't deny my feelings any longer. We can start off the next episode talking about that in some other G five schools. If you're okay with that, of course, I am hit, follow, hit, subscribe wherever it is you find this year podcast. My

To meantime, stay solid, peace,