College Football Week 9 Recap: Backups Better Than The Starters?

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Then and tie? You know, we did our week nine preview, Dan, we called it still into You Saturday. Yeah, I'm wondering if we're still into calling it still into you after we saw the influx of backups and the impact that they had in week nine, after we saw the influx

I'm good? What about Sideline getting loose Saturday for the number of backup quarterbacks Marcel Reid Drew Pine. I think it was what Brendan rose for Utah after they Sir Isaac Wilson was benched the number Bo Pribula Penn state the number of backup quarterbacks, either because the starter wasn't working out, Connor Wagman, Marcel Reid comes in, or there's an injury Drew Aller. Was it a knee situation?

For it was ankle? They said knee on the broadcast, but there's no way it would have been a knee if he's just standing there kind of willy nilly on the sideline. So I'm going with ankle my official diagnosis.

I think Baron Morton went down for Texas Tech. So sideline getting loose Saturday it was, Yeah, it was a survival Saturday. There's a lot to talk about here. I'm doing great. I hope you're doing great. You're on little to no sleep. Which greatest show we've ever done? Worst show we've ever done? You better stay tuned to find out.

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I some Liberty won and comm Accord was super accurate. I don't need to go through it super closely.

Yes, No, may want to hold off on that asside. Okay, Fy, what was the big story for you after having watched everything in week twelve or week what was the big story for you after having watched everything in week nine?

Is it week twelve already, Oh my god, Top twelve week nine, you know, yes, yes, yeah, Top eleven or twelve things week nine. I mean the theme is survival, right when you look across the sport, when you look at Ohio State, when you look at Texas, when you look at Kansas State surviving, I don't know, they made like a ninety one yard field goal. I don't know what these number. These numbers are getting cartoonish right now.

Well, I actually had the Marcel Read performance against.

He was the best reliever. I mean it is World

Yeah, I had that as kind of my top thing, which we'll get into. I also had Penn State up at the top. But since you brought it up, why don't we talk about the Ohio State and Texas situation because that was about as close as I think we got to actual upsets. Shout out to Roger Simon's father and Woe a Blue Car.

Okay, those are.

Two of other ballers who are out an active out on college Football Reddit who were posting about this, and they said it best win your clunkers, Dan, win your clunkers. So Ohio State did win over Nebraska. The game was at home, twenty one to seventeen. It was a bit of a nail bier, which is why yes by off bye with Penn State on deck, which is to say, of course that Nebraska had the ball with the chance to win late they did not. Ohio State intercepts it game over. But if you zoom out and look at

So Ohio State down there. Starting left tackle for the season, Josh Simmons went down against Oregon, obviously not playing against Nebraska. They lose another tackle. They're shifting things all over on their offensive line. Will Howard looked like a Heisman caliber quarterback in the very game, and Chip Kelly from the booth saw ah Man. Will Howard is nailing it man,

Yeah, I saw the meme going around on social media, the two guys kind of arm wrestling. On one side Penn State fans saying will this be good enough against Ohio State? And on the other it's Ohio State fans saying will this be good enough against Penn State?

Right?

Right? It was one of those weekends for sure in the Big Ten. So how State does win? I take away from whatever you want or take whatever you want away from that win. The other one that we should

That he's good, that they are a good football team.

Yes, they're good, they're ranked football team. Diego Pavia is a bit of a giant killer, right, he has that reputation, And there were moments in this game where didn't feel like, especially later in the game, it didn't feel like they were going to be able to conjure up that magic. And then lo and behold, they friggin do it. They freaking do it again. They find a way to score late. He somehow threads a needle to get the score late to twenty four seventeen in favor of Texas. Eventually they

You can go in a couple of different directions with this. The offensive line struggled again and got pushed around. They got pushed around by Georgia, and Vanderbilt was able to find ways to pressure quin Yours. I came away being impressed by some quin Yours throws, but having the same concerns I think a lot of us have had these past couple of years where he seems to tighten up a little bit and the quality that you would love to see. And look, he has a playoff quarterback he

Yeah, I mean to the point though, on Quinnewers. I'm looking at this Texas rushing line right now, Yeah, and I see Quintravion Wisner Wiser with seventeen carries seventy nine yards with a long of twenty. I see Jayden Blue ten carries forty seven yards long of twenty three. With the exception of basically a couple big plays, Texas didn't run and if they were gonna win, this is going

I agree, I agree, And Vandy was right there. There was an on side kick right for Vandy to try and tie this game. Lights that's where we were in this matchup. Texas was favored by how many points eighteen and a half points Dan eighteen and a half points. No, the story to me is Vanderbilt's continued wave of quality against anybody and everybody they play, and Texas not fully adapting over the course of these games. They seem like Texas was going to slow, like maybe a crockpot situation.

Well, let's stay in the sec then, and let's talk about Marcel Reid please. Marcel Reid is sort of the flag bearer this week for is the backup better than the starter?

Now?

Is that where we're at. I don't think Marcel Reid is the passer that Connor Wigman is or sometimes is, or sometimes is Noah, But there is no denying he gave them a pop. Yes, when he came in, he scored led a scoring drive. I should say on all five of the second half possessions that he took part in. Four of them were touchdowns, one was a field goal. And they brought him in at a moment in this game against LSU. They're at home. LSU seemingly had the

Was a no no, no, no, no, yes throw. It was at Noah Thomas who caught it up the middle about fifty some idrs.

Beautiful throw just sort of like lurches back and guns of deep hit him in stride is beautiful. But just the ability to bring him in for Mike Elko and offer something of a change of pace. The way it flipped the game and how quickly it flipped the game is really really interesting to discuss here. If I'm a Texas A and M fan, I'm wondering, now, what does

If they're in that conversation for sure, given their record and the way that they've beaten teams, as led by their defense and defensive improvement over the course of these games.

Yeah, so you find yourself, I think if you're a fan of the team wondering what is the game plan?

Now?

Do we go back to Wigman? Is it again one of these deals where we're gonna play two quarterbacks. There's gonna be a package from Marcel Reid. His ability to step in in a relief effort, yes, and dominate LSU was incredible.

It really was. And look it's at home for Texas A and M. But the atmosphere was foreboding, right, the vibes were down when LSU was up what seventeen to seven, Garrett Nusmeyer making big throws. LSU receivers was Aaron Anderson who had the long catch and run. Like there was a lot going right for LSU. They showed the clips of like guys getting into it with each other the pre game, the lsun A and like things were getting chippy.

Very pedantic. It seemed. It seemed very like I was expecting either a full blown fight or it was aggressive nudges. Aggressive nudges. Yeah, it was very strange.

There was like Garrett Nussmeier sort of taunting A and M players into personal fact, like there was all sorts of stuff happening, and the A and M defense.

Got filthy tie over the.

Course of this game. They got physical, they were hitting, They got bigger and angry over the course of this game. And you're right about Marcel Reid that comes in with his legs, with his arm, not as much perhaps as his legs, but just the general I don't know, the general mood of this A and M offense lifted so much when he got in there. Connor Wagman was struggling

Know, but.

He seems to move the ball in the correct direction more often, and so to me, if he has more reps with the ones in practice, if Colin Klein can say, Okay, this is the new shape of our offense when we have Marcel Reid, and as this season goes on, they become pretty scary. I mean they are pretty scary. They are pretty scary. It'd be pretty scary down seventeen seven they win this game. What thirty eight twenty three, I don't know, man, that's a that's a pretty nice night if you're an aggie.

Yeah, I mean it's it's almost as if Brian Kelly had no answer. Almost they had no answer when he came in. I mean, they just didn't they they couldn't stop them. They didn't know how to stop him. And it looked like BK was ready to pull his hair out. Yeah, on the sidelines. And you know, the same is true

And you were like, you know, call me crazy. I could see Drew Aller getting hurt right before halftime, and there's gonna be Boprabula a little spark off the bench. Yeah, that's what you said in the preview.

Continue Drew Aller did injure something, some sort of lower leg injury. Now is like I guess we refer to it in college football. She kind of drives me crazy. Yeah, I don't know if it was a knee tweak. I don't know if it was ankle. James Franklin, I think we know by now will not tell us what it is because he's prickly about these sorts of things. But whatever it was, Drew didn't come back in the game,

Yeah, on the other side, Wisconsin's offense, I don't know what you do at this point. It doesn't seem like a passing game will exist against a quality team in the near future. For Wisconsin as much as they move the ball in a balanced way, I believe. Against Rutgers and Purdue and to a lesser extent Northwestern, he scored twenty plus points. That counts to something against equality defense.

Well, the irony is that he did have guys open in this game, and well.

Yeah, drops in it.

Yeah he had guys open. He was horrible.

He's yeah, he's.

Try not to use language like that, but throws well, let's just call it what it is. There were moments in this game where he I jotted down in our note sheet that he like forgot to do the firmware update. Right, he was like glitching really bad. One hop Charlie's airmailing it.

Like air mailing like six yard outs. Yeah, it was really bad.

The interception, the pick six that he threw that kind of swung momentum in favor of Penn State. Yeah, I don't know how. I mean, they're wearing white, all literally all white in the middle of threw it right close. So I just I, you know, maybe he's not the dude, right clearly, I think he's kind of made that case and he's not the dude, but given circumstances, he has to be. I think you're right, there needs to be

Or did desbon Ridder make this guy's entire career? Yeah, I hope not, because I still am a believer in Luke Fickle, because I think this defense is improving and should turn into one of the Big ten's better defenses. But and look, this is a backup quarterback. It was a backup quarterback last year, was a backup quarterback this year. It's a tough watch.

It's real, it's a really tough watch. Yeah, but all due credit to Penn State. Penn State changed its game plan. They did it out of necessity. It'll be interesting to see what they look like next week, because it wasn't just alar denied. Dennis Sutton was out for a good chunk of the second half. They also had a lineman get hurt. So at this point in the season, it's gonna be Week ten. Everybody's a bit nicked up.

I like by the way that you're like, maybe pol Pabula is the guy who's next for Penn State. Congratulations, Bo Pabula, you might be the guy maybe if Drew Aller's injured, especially Ohio State.

Yeah, I don't like those odds. Yeah, frankly of Bo Pribula going against that defense. And I still think Drew Aller's the guy. But the ease with which he helped move the ball down the field with this offense. I'm only a simple man. I hear it asked that question. If this is a team that you care.

About, here, who's a I was gonna say, not the guy for Penn State. Anybody in that receiver room, not pass catcher Tyler Warren is the guy for sure. He is the offensive weapon, or at least was after the USC game. And I still think has the highest ceiling of anybody who can catch the ball or do whatever with the ball on this team. There's no receivers. I tweeted out, where are all these five ten dudes? Where's kJ Hamler, Where's Johan Dotson? We're all these dudes. I

Look, I'm with you. And I don't know if it was the threat of the run that opened things up down the field, but we saw Harrison Wallace get more involved, Liam Clifford get a little bit more involved. But yeah, right, I mean Julian Fleming has basically been anonymous this season. He's had a couple good catches, had a really bad drop this game, but all things considered, that remains the question, just as it was at the start of your Penn State wins by the way twenty eight to thirteen.

And we're sitting here picking up our Penn State. They were down for a chunk of this game and slowly paced their way to a comfortable.

Win before we talk about more escapes because we do want to talk about Kansas State and SMU. Why don't we talk about some teams that did not have to pull any kind of escape acts. Sure, let's talk about your Oregon Ducks who won in resounding fashion at home over Illinois. We can talk about BYU going on the road as a dog man and just taking it to UCF and what that means. We can talk about Notre Dame wrecking Navy. We can talk about Bama blanking Maszoo

I mean, I think Illinois is a decent team, but I don't think decent cuts it against number one team in the country right now with how they're playing, especially in that first half. Oregon came out and absolutely shelled them both on the ground and in the air. They weren't ripping off huge plays on the ground, but it's third and three, they're picking up six, right. The drives are just going and going, and then Dylan Gabriel would find Patrick Herbert or Tesz Johnson or Jordan James out

Answer is no, Dan, I know, the answer is no.

But like over it, Audtin, like the student section emptied out before, like the shout between the third and fourth quarter, like this is just not a resonating I know, poor number one team in the country, Tye, I know, but it just feels off to me, Well, we're gonna be in ann.

Arbor next yees for that Michigan game, And so for those who are watching this live, it will definitely be a more abridged version of our Week ten recap episode. We will do our best to put something out for everybody who I know is very active in the chat and care about the midnight stream, So we'll do something. We're still figuring out exactly what that is. It may not be as all encompassing as a show like this, but Oregon at Michigan really is kind of a big one.

Wisconsin is interesting, but we just talked about We've just talked about Wisconsin.

I don't think they've got what it takes to go toe to toe. They close out against Washington, which, okay, kind of a rivalry in the Pacific Northwest, but still given the state of Washington. Right now, I feel like I like Oregon a whole lot more. I'm looking at my projection sheet now. They're a healthy favorite in that game.

It's what Minnesota? Is that what you're saying that Minnesota. Minnesota's dropping half a hundo tie, it's a new era.

Minnesota looked really good this week.

I think Minnesota against Maryland it's Maryland. Whatever Maryland beat USC. Minnesota may have outscored themselves in their final three games from last year. Tonight, they looked really good. They looked really good in Maryland. Nice even performance continue in.

That Maryland game. Yeah, Maryland a week after knocking off USC. We thought there might be some letdown potential.

There was.

Notre Dame wrecked Navy.

Dan.

Yes, we saw this coming. Did you tell me that Clatt picked Navy out right?

I think so. And let's be clear, with regularity, I picked games confidently incorrect.

Yeah, we did it ten times this past week.

But this Navy Notre Dame game, I didn't. It didn't keep me up at night. I'm just Navy didn't have the defense and they hadn't played a team like Notre Dame, and the just Notre Dame defensive players just hit Navy harder than they were used to being hit these first few games.

Here's a different Here's what I would tell people. Yeah, we look at forty fifty I games a week. Yeah, even if it's not the kind of thing that we're talking about on the preview, we're looking at the numbers, we're looking at the teams. We're looking just for points of interest, right, so we know all of these as they're coming up. We pay attention to this stuff. The Notre Dame Navy game Dan truly, as we look at our spreadsheets, that was one that jumped out to me as this is a huge mismatch.

You just look at the size of the defensive players that they played this year.

With your huge mismatch on paper. They don't play the games on paper. But no, all the data that we had at our disposal, it looked like a huge, huge mismatch. This is the four straight game that Notre Dame scored at least thirty points. Their offense continues, I think to get better. What was uncharacteristic in this game for Navy, and that could be because they were going up against maybe the better defense. Are the best defense they've seen

It just seemed every play for Notre Dame was positive in some way. That Riley Leonard was ripping off like eight yards of carry, Jeremiah Love was ripping off eight yards of carry. By the way. On the other side, I think it was relatively early on Blake Horvath, who I think was limited handwise, he had a bum thumb coming into this game. Sensational touchdown run oh field fifty sixty yards out, weaving in and out of Notre Dame. He just needed to do it fifteen more times for

Sometimes the best of times the worst of times.

Yeah.

If I were a BYU fan right now, yes, I would not be sending us comments akin to do you believe in BYU yet?

Right?

You're gonna pick BYU next week? What do you have to say for not picking them this week?

Who do they have next week?

Et cetera, et cetera. Hold on Baltimore Ravens Okay, finish, Okay. There are teams like this every year where you and I are unconvinced. TCU most recently went to a national championship. We weren't convinced of TCU all year. Sometimes the occult forces of the bowler hood are ever in your favor, and so if I'm a BYU fan right now, I'm

Use explosion plays against Iowa State.

Yeah, well, great against Iowa State, even though they lost that game. Please keep doubting us, because whatever we're doing, I used to do this to my own team. Frankly, the reverse jinks, it's working, It's really working. BYU was frigging dominant. Dan, they were dominant. They were really good.

They were really really good Jack Rhet's laughs, really good spreads, the ball around runs really well. Had a great touchdown run saw that. I appreciate me personally. I've known you for some time now that you have both doubted BYU and are taking credit for BYU all in the same book. That is some classical.

Well, I'm not playing I'm not taking credit for anything, but I'm just saying, no, you're saying the occult forces of you not believing in BYU is well, you don't either, responsible you don't either.

Oh I picked against them, but every time I watch them like, oh, they're good, and then I pick against them because I think it's a tough situational play and I'm wrong, and I'm happy to be wrong if I get to watch good football as a result of it.

So BYU goes into and off week, now, okay, yes, but after that they've got the Holy War on the road at Utah. Utah lost by the way to Houston seventeen to fourteen. Bad, really down bad. I don't have much hope that Utah. I mean talk about the story of the year kind of on the other side of things, with Utah just bottoming out the way that they have. They're not winning the Big twelve. They're not gonna be anywhere close to winning the Big twelve. Right, They're a four and fourteen.

But what do you do with these rivalries?

You throw the records out. I know you gotta throw them out. But coming out of that bye week Holy War against Utah, Yeah, home game against Kansas on the road at Arizona State. Arizona State's plucky, they're fun, They're fun close out the year against Houston. Is it time to talk to our kids realistically?

Now, hold on, you're talking about Utah or BYU?

No, BYU?

Oh yeah, realistically twelve and oh BYU? What would you be most concerned about if you are a BYU human a Byuman?

Maybe that Arizona State game.

Where's that game being played?

It's at ASU.

Is there a kickoff time?

Not yet?

Okay, I agree with that. I think that's a pretty dangerous spot.

But on the road at Utah's a rivalry, and rivalries are always weird. We know this. I don't with the way that BYU has been trending as of late, the fact that they've got to buy before that Utah game. They might not cover the spread, but who gives it? Damn, you just want to win that rivalry game. I'm looking at that Utah game. That doesn't frighten me at all the way it did at the start of the year. Not even close Kansas. Kansas is having a rough year.

Said, by human?

Yeah, keep doubting us and look at the schedule, and you gotta feel pretty good about it.

Yeah, you have to feel good about it. And look, here's the other thing, Ty, it's just big picture. If they are as good as you say they can be the rest of the year, even if they lose Arizona State, they could still obviously win the Big Twelve, end up in a Big Twelve championship game playoff wise. And again I'm not talking about looking ahead of everything to say, oh, who could they play against? Just in terms of a visual we could be getting December twentieth in Provo, that's

There are only two teams in the Big Twelve right now that are unbeaten in conference. One of them is BYU, the other is Iowa State. Kansas State had its own survival act. The twenty nine to twenty seven needed a late field goal to upend their rival Kansas and the Sunflower showdown Case State is four and one in conference and currently a time of recording, both Cincinnati and Colorado are playing. They're both one lost teams within the Big Twelve. Colorado was winning at present.

What's the score right now?

Cod is? I don't know what the score is.

I thought it was maybe twenty four to fourteen the last I checked.

Okay, So it stands to reason that after this week, we're going to have a clear amount of separation banding going on within that conference, and we will know kind of who the contenders are. We're have pretty good sense for it as we turn the page go into November next week. How do you feel about k State?

Well?

I feel good because they played an a rivalry game and they pulled it out despite making a ton of mistakes. I thought the way they ended that game, especially on defense, We're like, just send dudes at Jalen Daniels that they can't They just can't keep up with this pass rush and sending pressure, and they were forcing Jalen Daniels to scramble and throw on the dead run or try to pick up extra yardage, and you had a big fumble at the end that Kansas State turned into a law.

Yeah, I don't know. It's it's a very interesting conference. We've been saying it the whole way through that it's, by for my money, the most interesting conference. It is, Okay, and maybe the SEC has a claim to that title given some of the new storylines that have emerged there. But the big twelve of them where that is headed,

Yeah, I mean, I don't know how great it was. Pankell the receiver for Duke who cover the I mean he was the go to dude. He is the go to dude. Caught the overtime touchdown and they go for two and don't get it. It wasn't a ton downfield from Malik Murphy and Duke. How hard is it to turn the ball over six times and win a game on the road against a pretty good team. I don't know how many times that has ever happened. Where I

Yeah, go on out to merch dot soliverble dot com and pick up a win your Clunker shirt It Colick, you tie yet to listen. I'm a pros pro a pro move. Here's the other thing. I'm going to reiterate

By the way, you just keep saying the word pick it's a real tough time to be a little too pick prone for Kevin Jennings against Pitt coming up, who three pick sixes in the first half Thursday night, all by linebackers, all by linebackers.

It was five picks total. Yes, for Kyle McCord.

Pit's a good team. You gift Pit three touchdowns on defense, They're a pretty difficult team to knock off. I mean, I mean.

If you look at the box score beyond those five interceptions.

No, I watched the game.

Yeah, if you look at the if you didn't watch the game, it if you just look at the box score, the stats do not sing anything Pit right. It was truly a function of they scored twenty one points via turnovers. They got two more turnovers. Field position was very much in their favor.

No, they game g need this TI, I.

Mean it was it was like a total hack. Yeah, and the game came off the swivel pretty quickly for Syracuse. Syracuse is not that bad of a team.

Obviously, they had a worst the worst night of the year.

This was like their absolute clunker that we saw on display and pitch just sort of all they needed to do was not screw it up, and they didn't.

Well. And it's also it's especially bad because there weren't I mean, it was this and was Liberty Thursday or Friday? Liberty kind of saw Liberty was Thursday. Yeah, there are a few games Thursday, Friday. Everybody's way right. This is peeing your pants during the homecoming King dance, the home whatever, the prom court. I was not a homecoming King tie like you no excuse me?

Yeah, okay, doing a podcast, believe me. I wasn't homecoming King.

No, it's everybody watching. It's everybody watching it in slow motion, and it's you know, it's their worst night. They'll bounce back, They'll be okay.

So we'll see what Pitt looks like next week. They're not going to get They probably won't get five interceptions off of Kevin Jennings.

He did throw three, but he through three tonight six total turnovers.

So perhaps they'll learn something that is meaningful. I think for our purposes here, you mentioned the Kennesaw thing. I'll

You can't lose to arguably one of the seven worst teams in FBS football.

Yeah, Liberty came into this game about a four touchdown favorite. I think it was twenty seven at close. They end up losing this game to Kanasaw State. Is Kanasaw State's first win at the FBS level. It's almost unprecedented that this would happen in the manner that it did.

Was that candisaw.

But still you wouldn't expect Liberty is going to drop a game like this.

No, it was real ugly too on Liberty's behalf.

Yeah, very very ugly game on their part, almost as if they didn't take it seriously.

So that's as if.

That's that's another one that will have some playoff implications, at least in the G five level. Yes, and G five thoughts too.

It's not even implications, it's a conclusion. Liberty is not going to the playoff.

Liberty is not going to the playoff.

No.

The one team we have not talked about is Alabama. Yes, correct, we have not. And this game against missoo so, Brady Cook gave it a go. Brady Cook hurt his ankle pretty badly a week ago, one of those deals again where he went to the hospital during the game, got the MRI, came back, got some stray looks from people who are out in the parking lot, like let's see what's going on here, ends up going back in the game. They get a hard fought win against Auburn. Fast forward

Well, I mean with regard to where the headspace was last week of Alabama fans after losing to Tennessee, we learned that it was a nice weekend for Alabama fans. It was a nice day for Alabama, especially on defense, to beat up on a wounded team. And so no, I don't know if we learn anything necessarily new, especially with how Miszoo struggled against A and M on the road a couple of weeks ago, a few weeks ago. But I only watched a little bit of this game.

Be Clemson.

I was good enough to be Clemson. That's my editors. My editor's hat right now is we should also mention in audio italics good enough to be Clemson. But yeah, it was just it was not going to happen. With Miszoo's struggles this year, Missoo's inconsistencies generating bigger plays on offense, you need to be able to do that against an

No, I mean, and it's It's been one of the I think disappointing storylines this year missu because of the expectations they had a lot back. It just doesn't seem like the offense has given him the same pop as it did a year ago. Maybe losing Cody Schrader had more of an impact than people had thought coming in. I don't know what the actual cause for it is. We can unpack that at some point in the future. The SEC race, though, now by virtue of what we

Yeah, my team, yep.

Five And oh we've got four teams with one loss, Georgia, Texas, Tennessee and LSU.

And let's see Georgia plays Tennessee for sure, Yes, yep, Texas will play A and M. Who else is A and M has South Carolina. I believe on the road this comle week that is a letdown. It's not a look ahead, but is a letdown spot of letdown spot like it is of epic proportion. I agree.

We will talk about that one for sure, and of course, but with the fact that some of these teams do play each other m hm, LSU stands to.

They've only lost once, only as one loss, but.

LSU stands play a team like in Alabama, which could be an interesting game right coming up here. So there's I think a fair amount of upward mobility for some of these teams that are kind of in that next tier down that should go without saying in the SEC where everybody always beats everybody. But right now, if you're an A and M fan, you gotta fel pretty good about where you stand. It's probably beyond your wildest dreams at this point that you'd be atop the conference, especially

By the way, just because you're mentioning the teams with the fewest losses in the SEC, does not mean that Vandy does not have two top ten opponents to finish out the year and might have a little something to do with how the final standings shake out in Tennessee and LSU. Who can't wait a few.

Other things here, Dan, We have been going through our top twelve lists, items that we have jotted down that place jumped out to us this week. The Boise State story continues to be very very interesting. Yes, that game on Friday night against UNLV was Barnburner.

It was. I only watched some of it so far. I will do more of it on the Tuesday show. Continue really really good game, high level game. Enjoyed it thoroughly. Ashton gent with the go ahead touchdown late in that one to ultimately give Boise the win.

But two teams that I think probably end up meeting again for the Mount West title, and I'll look forward to that matchup. I think Boise is in control now of that G five playoff spot, especially with Navy taking a loss, with Liberty taking a loss. Tulane maybe trying to find its way back into this thing, but they've got two losses.

And two losses good law. I mean, it's what Oklahoma and Kansas State.

They would need to absolutely need to win their conference, and they would need to do so going away. But for where I'm seeing it, I think it's Boise. I also think Armies got an Interestmy's still there. Army's got an interesting case here. There's a pretty good chance that it's going to be Army with one loss after Notre Dame versus Navy versus Navy with one loss for that American title. It could happen. I do think the Navy

By the way, was not a huge factor in terms of production, obviously a huge factor in terms of attention and gravity and UNL his entire game plan was focused on stopping Ashton Gent. He never really got loose consistently, to the credit of Barry otom in this UNLV defense. But they were unable to get a Ton going consistently on their own offense, and so Maddox Madson made plays and really really impressive when on the road. I was just distracted because Freddy Freeman was dripping the heart out

Let's read some tweets, all right, Let's read some tweets play with me. Who the hell am I? We put a weekly call out across all of our socials asking hey, who are you a fan of? And how are you feeling right now? Had a bunch of those come in. I'll actually start because I'm going to role play a little bit and say, if I were a Virginia Tech fan,

I mean, if I'm an Indiana fan, keep it going. Because Tavin Jackson wasn't always all that great. I would say a lot of a lot of real short stuff, a lot of picklebally justice Ellison was he ran hard that he didn't open up a ton, but the defense got after it against Washington. I'm thrilled if if I'm an Indiana fan and I'm looking around the sports see how other backup quarterbacks fared on Saturday. I'm thrilled to get out of that with added attention. What game day

If we're going to keep plugging away here and we're going to read some of these I yess on the topic of Indiana real quick, please, How does Indiana stack up against Ohio State realistically.

After today or before today.

If we assume that Curtis Roark is going to be back.

No, I know I'm saying, but like now that we have more information after today, the vulnerability of Ohio State up front on offense, the games at Ohio State, games at Ohio State. Okay, Ohio State will not be as frustrating every week as they were this week, but they might be as beat up on that offensive line for a while. So how do they stack up? I think Curtis Rourke and Indiana beat today's specific version of Ohio State.

I do that's today, just wondering, just wondering.

This was Ohio State's worst day of the season. Now an average day for Indiana against an average day for Ohio State. I think Ohio State's better. I think they win that game by ten to thirteen points.

If I'm a Louisville fan, I'm proud of how the team came back and knocked off Boston College. Yeah, twenty one unanswered in the final eighteen minutes. It's pretty cool. Take that. If I'm a Florida State fan, I'm just like beside myself. They're one and seven at this point after getting thrown.

How many points stand they finished the game with against Miami seven? Yeah, just not they scored that early, right.

Not a good show. It was a really bad game. If I'm a Rutgers fan, I wonder what's happened to my defense? Yeah, because the defense has really bottomed out these last couple weeks. So I'm a Minnesota fan, which I am. It is still bros before nos, my friend. Three twenty four touchdowns from Minnesota superstar Max Brosmer, And this was kind of the performance you were waiting for. Yeah, it wasn't just Brosmur. It was Darius Taylor, it was Daniel Jackson, those three, the Big three as we call

Oh my god, Virginia fan infuriated. Yeah, I agree with that. That was North Carolina getting right against Virginia today. Yeah, Iowa fan feeling like, are we getting better? Or is Northwestern just that bad? Two things can be true. Yes, and you did it with Benching Kde McNamara for Brendan Sullivan. Yep, I believe Northwestern transfer.

Yep.

That's a pretty good I mean, winning is good, Winning is always good. Iowa State fan, and I'm thankful it's a bye week. I think that's a great point of view. I'm a Baylor fan. I'm feeling like Dave finally binged episodes of Fixer Upper. Baylor, by the way, are they back from the dead. I think Baylor and TCU got a little bit spicier today. TCU pulled out a weird one.

It's pretty great.

If they're scoring forty a game, it's pretty great.

They do have an offense.

They have an offense.

They absolutely have an offense. The rest of the way, it's TCU. You mentioned, got TCU next week. Then they go into a buy close out the year at West Virginia at Houston Home against Kansas A.

J's a Michigan fan where this offense has been all year. Okay, So they run, they call a really successful trick play and Davis Swarren, while not incredible, completes passes for first downs. He is the quarterback that gives him the best chance to complete passes downfield and in a very losable spot to Michigan State, who started out that game quite successfully. Michigan stayed with it. I think Michigan's defense is maybe above average in this moment, and that's okay, because that's

Twenty four to seventeen is a really nice win.

Ohio State fan Alarmed Tennessee fan feeling thankful that the only the Yankees are making me miserable this evening, as I could not handle the double misery. Ty, I got to introduce you to Tommy Edmond. He is just yet Babe, Ruth Tank, Aaron and Ted Williams all in a tiny, tiny little package. I'm a Texas Tech fan. I'm feeling like we're a five and three two that might not hit six wins. That is not a great feeling.

No, that's not good at all.

The slow bleed so yeah, Baron Morton injured in this one and TCU pulling them out not always pretty. Put TCU winning record, gonna go bowling, it's pretty decent.

I don't know.

I had to watch a ton of this game. Excited to watch it Sunday or Monday.

The only thing that I'll close the segment out with is saying, if I am a fan of Group of five football, the MAC is pretty damn awesome right now, the Mac. Yeah, the MAC looks great. So we had the Bowling Green Toledo rivalry, which we are a ton of points in.

I almost picked the winner of that game. By the way, you had one of two teams to pick.

Yeah, forty one to twenty six, Bowling Green, your Bowling Green. So our Falcons knocked off Toledo. Nice win for Bowling Green. Bowling Green obviously has taken teams like A and M and Penn State to the wire, so it's was probably foolishould be to not pick them.

Well, they're better on the road too, Yeah, better.

On the road, but Bowling Green with a nice win. We had Western Michigan knocking off Kent State. That in and of itself isn't really that big of a surprise. Kent State is not a very good team. However, Western is undefeated and now alone atop the back. Yes and weaknight maction to decide their fate is going to occur over the next few weeks just kind of file that away ball State knocked off NIU, talking about the worst

By the way, did you hear he's just like a little sidebar here during the Notre Dame. I guess you weren't watching the Notre Dame game super closely today because you were in and out and watch it after the fact. It was revealed that Marcus Freeman shows Notre Dame the NIU game before every game in the late like least chill thing, Like, coach, we know it was a bad Saturday, we were there, we know it's not going to happen again. And he's like, guess we're watching, Yeah, we're watching Homeward

The beatings tough beat The beatings will continue until improves exactly works right. Thank you everybody for writing in. We

Jackson Corville? If I got that right? For ball State four or five from forty seven to fifty and fifty two, k Man Makai Hughes Tulane went for nearly two hundred on the ground and that I guess it was a shootout win over North Texas, covering by half a point. Taylor Green, by the way, should point out I know there are like popular weight loss drugs that people are taking in twenty twenty four. If you truly want to lose weight and stick to a program, play offense for

They do play for the BYU fighting Cougars. Oh? Okay. One is holder Sam vander Haarr. The other kicker Will Farren, who's a wild fake field goal? Yes, I have never seen this version of a fake field goal in my life. So to reiterate, we have seen the play. It is burned into college football lore, the fake field goal of the holder taking the snap no look, tossing it back over his head, of course to the kicker who is

And I think the kicker had the opportunity to throw it on the play as well, and he did was to run it. Yeah, he did.

So.

It was a fake field goal that kind of looked like a fake field goal was definitely a planned endeavor.

Yes, yeah, you don't.

Technically, that doesn't just happen because you're trying to make no no, no. He it was a deliberate snap back between his legs to the kicker who ran for a first down did have the option to throw. I have never seen if anybody has seen another play like this, send me the YouTube clip, send me a still image. I have never seen anything like that. I would love to meet the person that put that together.

Somebody will do a story on the behind the scenes of that fake field goal, and it almost feels like the money quote from that story will be We tried it in practice. It went horrendously bad. It didn't work, It got snuffed out immediately, but we figured, why the hell not, let's try it in a game.

My thought after seeing it was, is that something that the holder just wanted to do as a flex right? I feel like the holder makes that call if he's going to go for it or not. It's like when the gymnast is up on the balance beam and you could go for the higher impact move and decide against it. I'm just wondering if he was Sam Sam Vanderharr If you're listening, right in soliverable at gmail dot com.

Yeah, if you're going to do something, do it right with some flair.

I want to know if you had like a choice route there where you could either go between the legs or just go with the standard flip.

Over the back of the head, right, it executed it perfectly.

And last, but certainly not least, here are your week nine reverbs.

Have a listen with a game winning field goal at the end. The Bronze Stock Trophy stays in Muncie. This year ball State beats Northern Illinois. Could they beat Notre Dame? This is Derek, I'm going to Browska Prairie.

Is this Steve calling from Atlanta, Georgia?

Heyay, this is Ash calling in from Atlanta. I don't understand.

If Middle Tennessee is the worst team in the FPS, then in that Kennesaw State who was to them last week?

But then why am I saying that Kennesaw State?

Just see Liberty not today? Diego Pavia went into the skill open rules. I wish I could go back in time and tell like eight to twelve year old Nebraska fan me when they were winning three national championships in four years that eventually it would just lead me to a descent into madness and constant depression and hating myself.

I have a simple message for Tony Elliott after j Day's bleep show of a performance change or be changed. I sure hope that NBC got Tyler Warren's permission to call him inspector Gadget, because I will not be calling him anything besides inspector Gadget until further notice.

War damn Eagle.

We got an SDC wind, Birmingham Bull or Bucks. It's Jimmy from ann Arbor.

Even when we suck, We're better than Michigan Site, Little Row doing little ro things, go blue, the fighting Texas Aggies.

I could run through a wall and eat all the drywall left because Kyle got.

Me amped up. The coobs are eight and oh Flyinheim Utah fun.

They sucked.

Hey, I just got home from college game day and Memorial Stadium and wait a second, Hey, honey, get.

Out the good China Indiana eight.

No row row row your boat, row row row your boat. No row row your boat, row row row your boat.

Jill down the stream the snowdre Dame.

Just eat fifty one and fourteen sky Yuma row the boat.

Baby.

Look, it was a long day of college football. We're all a little tired. The reverbs always a wonderful sound in these years. Thank you to one and all for giving us a holler. Yes, Dan, that does it for our week nine recap episode. Hope everybody enjoyed this. It has been a long day of college football. We are going to go and do our spillover episode on Tuesday. So anything we didn't talk about anything, we need to unpack more things that we think about a little bit

There will be a Saturday night recap show of some kind next Saturday. That will be here. And if you are tailgating at the Michigan Oregon game, let us know. I don't know if there's anything you want to take advantage of listeners for beyond tailgate opportunities. TI, is there anything else that you need?

No?

No, do you need like a Shiatsu massage sometime to work out some of your your knots?

Anything outside of Michigan Stadium.

No, I'm good, I'm good. Okay, fair enough.

Tailing tailgateing will do just fine.

We'd love to say, Hi, we're very excited to go to ann Arbor. It is the first time that we are actually attending a game in quite some time. We've gone to national championship games and made stuff before games and then left for the actual game. So excited to tailgate wander around. It should be quite good.

Yeah, and we went to Northwestern do back in week two.

But we did, we did.

But we're talking real stadiums here, real stadiums that aren't portable, and you know, man have a little bit more history behind him.

Yeah, the fake stadium taking taking some strays here from Ty hilden Brand at Northwestern on the.

Lake IOK, they're not even playing there anymore.

I know they're at regularly now. Yeah, holler, we're gonna be in ann Arbor. Come come say hi some way somehow.

Week nine, officially in the books, looks like Colorado. Barring any kind of great comeback, we'll emerge victorious here. We could talk about that on Tuesday. For that guy out there, my good friend Dan Rubisin, for myself, Ty hildon Brand, thank you for downwenning, for listening, for supporting. We will talk y'all soon. S