#218: The People vs Nickelodeon

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Derek is gone today. He was uh he was on his way to the podcast and he was abducted. Uh we he was. I watched him walking up the street up to my house in an ice cream truck, just swerved up to the sidewalk. He yanked him, didn't even stop. A really big long, a really long hand crept out of the window and grabbed him by his hoodie actually no two hands, grabbed him by his ears, by

by by his ear lobes because he's got the handles in his ears. And then he yanked him into the into the uh, into the ice cream truck. And we haven't heard from him since. We texted him. He was like, hey, I saw you got abducted by an ice cream truck. I hope you're doing all right. Let us know when you get back so we can record the show. He never got back to us, so I don't know. He may be he's gone. We've assumed he's gone. Ready, Yeah, I mean we'll give him another uh, we'll give him another

week and then uh, and then maybe we'll call the police. I think at that point we'll be like, hey, you know, maybe he might be this might be something that you should probably look into. But or maybe not. You know, I don't know who knows. We just split. Here's the thing we have. We have a situation here at the podcast where we all kind of of we all contribute like a very specific role, and so we each carry like like Sweeney handles a lot of like the back end

kind of business stuff and emails. I kind of organized the show and write the show and organized questions and do some Patreon stuff, and then Derek edits. So we all kind of split evenly like everything that we get out of the show. But with Derek Gohn, it's just kind of I mean, it's kind of like a pay raise the way that I I mean the way that I think about it, Like if he died, would friend Yeah, But I mean it's I mean, yeah, you know, I mean it's

he'll be bad, He'll be fine. It's just an ice cream truck abduction. Like these things happen all the time. I don't even turn my I don't even turn to my phone when there's an amber alert, you know, because I know they'll be fine. That's crazy. I tried to silent my phone. Did you see that thing where they had like, uh, this is a while back. To be fair, a couple of weeks ago, at least a couple of months ago. I think maybe max max two months

ago. We're like these two girls like saw an amber alert go off, and then they went and tracked it down. They actually like did it. They actually like found the car and saved a kid. I was like, don't tell me that, I'll never do that. Don't tell me that. That feels so bad. I feel so bad right now. I know, doesn't it make you feel like a worse person. I feel so bad.

They took a minor initiative and they saved a life. Well, to be fair, they took pretty extensive initiative, Like, I don't think they had anything else going on that is probably that that probably plays into it in some way, but like it would have to be convenient. What you're not bad to make me feel no, because that means how many times could we have

probably saved the kid's life? What I mean, I don't want to think about this is not I don't want to think about that because because really it's like, oh, a child's missing, you should up and at him and go for it. Yeah. Yeah, let's move on from yeah, you know you're you're right. Let's move on from trial and dangerment. Let's talk about the Nickelodeon Ductum. So obviously there was a documentary released on I think I think I saw it on Max, but I think it's in other places

too. It's called Quiet on Set The Dark Side of Kids TV. It's a four part mini series. I think, I don't know if there's any

more parts. It ends kind of concisely, but I also like it feels like they released two episodes and then they released another two like a day later, So it feels kind of I don't really understand what's going on, but I think it's over though, and it basically details a lot of the just a lot of the ship that went down behind the scenes at Nickelodeon, as far as like they're live action, like there's thankfully there's no SpongeBob Rapist or

anything that would have been that we know that we know of yet. And so I talked about like a lot of the kids shows that like I remember growing up watching, Like I don't, I don't know exactly what the age range for this podcast is as far as like audience goes. I don't look at the metrics because I don't I'm not metrically minded. I don't care really, but I have to assume that there's at least some large percentage of the audience that is our age, you know, twenty eight, twenty nine,

thirty thirty one. I have to imagine that that's like a at least thirty percent of the of the audience, if I were to estimate. So there's all these shows like Cousin Skeeter and all that, and and and there's all these shows that we used to watch, the Amanda Show, Drake and Josh, and I remember watching these shows like pretty not religiously, but like a lot, you know, Like I I like sincerely really enjoyed the Amanda Show.

I really really enjoyed Drake and Josh especially, I'd really fall I didn't fall into I Carly or Victorious. Are those like that was like I liked I liked Victorious and I Carl. I enjoyed those. Those are about the ending of my era of like watching that was the beginning. That was the beginning of the end for me where I was like, Okay, yeah,

I see, I see what's going on. Ah, you know, I'm getting a little There was some noticeable weird shit in Carl and Victorious stuff, but even I was like, I was like that that's also true, where like I was watching it and I started to feel uncomfortable that I was watching it like as as a young as a older teen by the way, mind you, like this isn't even necessarily like I'm not twenty five, you know,

like I'm not like twenty five. I'm not like I'm in my teens still, and I'm watching like scenes in I Carly and I'm thinking, like that's scratching parts of my brain that really should not be scratched, like kids TV. So I'm gonna stop watching this. This is alarming parts of my brain. I was like, this is you know what's funny too? Like

I remember specifically like all right, we're getting ahead of ourselves. Basically, this documentary goes into all sorts of like really horrific shit that went on behind the scenes, some of it. Some of it, I do feel is brought into the documentary and makes it it. I don't know, Like there's some things where it's like there's like adult jokes in these shows, which is

like, yeah, that's true. There's certain things that happen in that show in like I Carly and Victorias specifically like Sam and Kat where like they have arian A Grande like on a bed pouring water over her or whatever, and and like and it's just very and she's like upside down on a bed and just like squirting water in a face. She's like I'm thirsty, and it's like, ah, this is I remember at the time seeing that in the in the credits or something for like one of the shows and be like,

that's this is strange. I don't like this. But then there are other examples, like on the Amanda show, like there was a character named like Penelope Taint and it's just like oh, well, taint just like you know it's and it's like, I don't know that kind of I get, I get it, I get that it contributes to it, but it's like there was all sorts of like dirty jokes and like Animaniacs and all of our kids cartoons and kids cartoons too, like do you remember that fingerprints joke from like

Animaniacs that like yes, like there's that stuff is I don't know, Like sometimes the documentary went into that territory where I was like, you're kind of I don't know if this is this specific thing is necessarily worth getting into when you have literal sexual assault and pedophiles working on the show that you could be delving into right now. But I agree, I agree, But that's but that's what happened. But I didn't see it, so I'm subtracted from to

a degree. But there was there was a point. There was a point in time where after like watching Nickelodeon, it felt because because even now I feel like they after a while they like reduct to making it very kiddy, like Nickelodeon's now very kid like. Yeah, but for a period of time it was like very much so like it was edgy like I watched Victoria.

I watched Victorious because I because I just because of the stuff that was happening Victorious, you know, of course, Yeah, these are attractive girls and this there's there's some some some ship going on. Yeah, I'm watching it. You know, I knew what I was there for. I wasn't there for funny jokes exactly. You know, like it's teacher was watching this. The teacher was talking right, and he had the lotion. He squirted loch in the face of all the girls there. Crazy that is. Yeah.

So so there's look, so there's a lot of on air innuendo like and on in show jokes that I think some of them crossed the line like a lot, and then some of them I think are just like, I don't know, like some of them, some of them I really don't see any different from like the animate X jokes, And it's like, yeah, whatever, Like if if you're if you're an adult and you're watching like TV with your with your fucking kids, there's gotta be something there to pull you into

so you don't go fucking misery. I think that's why my dad loved SpongeBob so much, because there was like a lot of stuff in there that was like not crude or lewde in that sense necessarily, but like geared towards it an audience that clearly doesn't like there's no way kids understood that scene when Squidward was trampled. Remember that scene where squid words like flat on the street and he's talking about like nobody cares about the fate of labor as long as they

can get their instant gratification. I don't know what the fuck that meant, you know, but I was just laughing because like, lol, Squidward is flat, but it quickly gets so much worse than just on air. And you know, because like Dan Schneider like he's a piece of shit. He's

like he's like an asshole boss. He likes he's like mean to people's he's there's like a bunch of conflicting things in the documentary because he's apparently like very very there for the some people and then very very like dismissive of others. He's a weird figure. I'm not exactly sure how to feel about him, because I I think he's fucking no doubt creepy and weird. But there are people in this documentary that make him look like a fucking saint in comparison,

which is wild. So one of the craziest things that I one of the craziest things that blew fucking my mind about this, right, was so basically there were not one, but three, uh basically like child molesters on on the sets of like all that, and and and and these other things, right, and they were working. Obviously, it came out later that they didn't they didn't hire them. We were like, oh, you're a sex

offender, come on, let's but it came out. It came out later, right, And one of them, the guy's name is Brian Peck. And this dude, he's if you remember the Amanda Show. Were all that he's pickle Boy from the Amanda Show. Yeah. So so I don't even

know where to begin with this because it is fucking crazy. So Drake Bell comes out in episodes three and four of this documentary series basically to open up about what happened to him for the first time ever, Like he's I've I know this was never known before or like what was what happened was known, but nobody knew that it was Drake Bell that was the victim of this area, and basically like this dude, first of all, let me let me

set the stage a little bit. He has parties at his house, right, and he's got the he's got a garage with like a bunch of like Hollywood memorbilia in it, and he's got this painting of a clown. And one of the kids I can't remember if it was Drake or if it was somebody else, but one of the kids goes like, Hey, what's that. That's that's not like anything else in this room. And he goes, oh, oh, you want to see. So he he takes this painting of the clown and it's like, I think behind it or like on top

of it, or like something something related to it. There there are messages like paper, like penpal messages between this dude, Ryan Peck and John Wayne Gacy, the serial killer, and he was just showing this to everybody. He like, this is not this is not like, it's not like a secret. I'm not even from that. So much more insane than that is sign than I would have ever guessed that to be what is going on?

Right? No, you, I was My mouth was a gape when I saw I was like are You cannot be fucking serious that this dude was like communing with a serial killer and like people knew, like it wasn't even like a secret, Like he was showing this off to people as like memorabilia, and it's like, what the fuck had so that that that didn not raise

any red flags is crazy? But so, I mean, the documentary goes into it a lot more in depth, obviously, but like you know, he he ends up driving a wedge between Drake and his dad and basically kind of makes himself Drake's guardian for like a while, and so he's like at his house all the time, and there's all this like really horrific shit that happens in that time, and it's, uh, it's crazy. It's like

it is one of the craziest things ever. And there's like stuff about Amanda Bines in there, but Amanda Bines doesn't speak, she's not in it. A lot of it is kind of tangential or like third like you know, third party, yeah, just kind of talking about like yeah, it's it's weird. They were really close. I don't know if anything happened really,

like I don't. I don't the way that I feel about Dan Schneiders, Like I don't know if he's I don't know if he's like a pedophile, but like I think he's really fucking creepy, and I think he's an egomaniac. Is kind of the that I got because like he he did like try to help Drake out of that situation. So like, I don't I don't really know how to how to view this this dude outside of the fact that I just wouldn't want to be near him. It's just the safest way to

go about it. But dude, I really you I know, I spoiled some of the stuff here, like with like that John wayn Gacy should fucking threw me for a loop, like like really discombobulated me. But and the crazy thing about this too is like after all this happen after after he's convicted, by the way he's he gets sentenced to sixteen months in jail for raping a fucking fifteen year old like repeatedly crazy, Uh, he served sixteen months

in jail and then guess guess where he ends up working? Where he ends

up working on the Sweet Life of Zack and Cody. You're out of your your eyes after after and then like in court hearing, there was like all these people who like like when he went to go get sentenced or whatever, like there were all these people, like these famous people like on his side of the court to like support him, while Drake Bell was just like up on the fucking like next to the judge and like talking about like, you know, how is it why there's so many people like all these people like

there's a bunch of people who wrote letters defending uh, the Brian Pack and all this stuff. And it's like James Marsden is in there. He wrote a letter, the guy from fucking Sonic the Hedgehog just the strangest. It's such a strange, fucking it's wild. So I I really do highly recommend watching that documentary. It's depressing and it will probably sour a lot of your memories of certain TV shows. All that has definitely kind of fucked up.

And Josh crazy is that Drake worked for them for so many more years after that too. Yeah, that makes it so sad. He was he was working with them until like literally like maybe like two thy like ten, he was still working with them, dude. Yeah, it's it's insane. Yeah, it's it's really heartbreaking, like because he's like Drake is talking, but he's like kind of staring, like he's very like it's very it's very obvious, I mean like traumatized. Yeah, but like he's very much so traumatized.

It kind of puts into perspective, like because there was this kind of narrative going around. I don't know if you guys remember like the there's like a Drake and Josh thing where like Drake wasn't invited to the wedding or Josh's wedding, and and he was kind of mad about it, and there was like a whole falling out thing that that kind of happened. I remember this years ago because I remember, well, yeah, it was like it was

like maybe like three four years ago. Yeah, and it really that was like a kind of a nuanced situation because on some level, there was a lot of I remember thinking like, yeah, I mean, Josh wants to move on, Drake is kind of living in the past. It is there is some level of like I don't know if it's necessarily pathetic, but like just wanting just wanting to cling on to somebody to that felt like it just felt like it's just dude, move on, Like it's like whatever, Like

you worked on TV, it's not that big of a deal. But like with the context of this and knowing that, like like being on Drake and Josh uh happened after all of that, and it was kind of like if it was m literally yeah, no, all that ship that was going on with him, He's finally found a place where like I'm not being hurt, I'm I'm safe here, and he had a he had a place where he could go. He had like a work relationship that was good, he had

a you know, a set experience that was good. He was working with somebody that he liked and respected. After all that, I think like that recontextualizes a lot of things, like Okay, it's still there is a clinginess to it that is still kind of like probably unhealthy, but like I totally fucking understood. But the thing is, we don't know if Josh knew what. We don't know what Josh knew. Well, that's another thing, Josh I don't know. Man, Josh is fucking weird. He's he's very weird

now and he's been with for a while. He's been like the second he started doing stuff with David Doberg, I'm ever being like mm mmmm, you're strange. That was that was like my first kind of inkling that things were kind of off with him. But yeah, dude, like he did this

video like I think two days ago, so like after the documentary. I think it was like he was he was lip syncing to some audio where he was like, if I haven't talked to you from twenty if I haven't talked to you since twenty twenty three, take the hint you're dead to me or whatever, and it's just like, I don't know, it's not the best thing to not the best, not the best it is for sure. S Yeah, now shouldn't noticed. It should be noted that, I mean,

Drake Bell got into trouble too. Yeah, we did talk about that on the show, because he did he I think I think the way that I remember that I remember it was that like he was talking to or like he was in communication with somebody who was underage. And then if I remember, yeah, and if I remember correctly, I think there was like a court case and I think when the age was brought up, he like cut contact

or something, but that but he still had the conversation. So like he was kind of like you know, he's like, hey, al right, hey, you know I did this or whatever. Fucked up. Not good. But I've seen some people being like, isn't it wild how Drake Bell had all that stuff him and then like he went and did it again,

And it's just like, well, that's tech. That's often the case often, but it's not no, no, no, But like there's he was viciously raped for many many many, many many many months on like constantly, and he there's a did there's a pretty fucking thick distinctions, like there's a

massive degree in separation there. I'm not saying it's good. It's a bad thing that he did that, and I'm glad that he at least, like you know, fucking you know what is it, because he did his like time or whatever at the very least, but like he got caught, he got caught, and he got what you call he got caught, and he what you call it. He he's no longer repeated it, and that's that's good. It's sad that he did it. Obviously, we don't condone's fact

that he did that. That's the man, he should he should face consequences. But like the there is we've gotta we do this constantly, where like this reminds me, It reminds me of the Ase's I'm sorry and and uh Bill Cosby thing where it's like, listen, man, none of these things are good. But you cannot possibly You cannot possibly and good if you know anything about how serious this kind of thing is. Like there's you would never

in good faith make these make these things. Is that that people people don't know how because what happened is that people say things a lot and they don't experience stuff. So that happens is that when you say those words, when you put those words on people, people don't. People understand this, They don't get it right. When those words touch you, even if they're not true, it stains you. I could have done nothing wrong. Period. If if those words are brought up for you, your life is ruined.

Your life is a ruined. Especially with these famous people. They're like that's and that's the way we can bring them down. You know, they're like birds flying above us, and we can take them down if we take these rocks or these horrible meanings at them, We throw them in at them with it, you know. So it's like it's really I guess it'sn't sorry situation. If I'm not mistaken, If I'm not mistaken. What happened was he just had a really terrible day and he was trying to get laid afterwards,

right, Wasn't that what it was? He was, well, he was, he was. He was very inappropriate, and I think pushy or something like there was there was it's not okay, but it's not you're not akling champion, it's not it's not. Yeah, but it's not drugging hundreds of women for decades, like I don't know, Like you remember, Chris, remember we were looking together and the numbers just kept going up, and numbers

just kept going up and going every morning it was like four more. I was like, dude, I thought it was maybe alive the first few, but now there's more than years I've been alive. It's insane. And I was like, yeah, his count was insane. So like, I don't know, I think there just needs to be not so much nuance that you excuse everything that's that's happening, but enough nuance where you can like delineate between

like this. I mean, these are very different things, and I think it's just worth bringing that up. Like, I feel bad for Drake Bell, Like, sincerely, I don't think it's cool that he did what he did. I hope that, you know, he can just exist in a better way from here on out. I like, I hope that this helps him heal or whatever. And I, uh, you know, but you

know, you shouldn't have had conversations with the miner either. But that that but that guy, that guy who's that pedophile, who, by the way, is apparently I think as of maybe not as of the dropping of the documentary, but as of at least a couple of days before, was still working in the industry. So crazy that guy can that guy can die like that guy can. That is fucking crazy that that guy was just working there.

Insane, insane, insane, he made insane. I can't wait till a Disney one comes out, because one of those things to come out. I know they've probably got so much shit going on and they're trying that they hired a convicted pedophile to work out the Sweet life of Zach. You cannot, at the very least for Nickelodeon, They at least they didn't know that he would like at the like, at the very lea like the slimmest bottom of the barrel defense that you get is like, look, we didn't know

that this was happening. I didn't yet. Disney knew, and they were like, just keep an eye on him. I guess he's a good pa. Don't leave him with Zach and Cody with the twins. There were there were some things that really pissed me off though, like in that documentary too, because like they were they're like, some of these parents are fucking inept.

These parents are fucking dude. One of the first examples is like one of the like the first predator that got caught was like some young p a on on I think I think all that where he was like sending messages. He was like he was an emailing the kids, and he sent this one girl like a like a naked photo in email, like through an email, and the mom was like, well, I don't know if I should And the mom was like, I don't know if I should call the police there,

because they're going to think that I'm a bad parent. They're gonna think I'm a bad parent for for letting my for letting my daughter fall into the situation. It's like no, what makes you a bad parent is having your kid fall in that situation and then not calling the fucking police. You had evidence, you had an email of this dude crazy. There's like, I don't know, I don't I don't have I don't have kids, right, I don't even really like kids at all, really fundamentally speaking. But that

enraged me. Like when I saw that, I was like, you, I cannot believe that there are people with kids who are that fucking just like they do. Do you just not care? I I was fucking speechless when I saw that. When she was like, oh, you know, I thought they would think I was a bad parent. I didn't want to, Like, I didn't wanna. I didn't want people to think that of me.

And he's like, well, I'm sure that worked out because now millions of people fucking do Now millions of people know you did this or that you didn't do anything more accurately, Like who the fuck would fault Like, first of all, who the fuck would fault a parent for calling the police on

a on a pedophile? Those fucking those stupid ass parents have their kids in the situations where they're making money off them, right, so their kids are their form of money, right, so they're like instead of instead of protecting their kids, which is somehow possible people can do this. It's like I want to protect my money more than my child, and that is outrageous because that just I don't know how this Like we we both read and and listened

to the whole thing with what's your name? The girl that played Sam Pucket, her mother is outraged, like that was yeah, yeah, she was just she was just means of money to harress her family, and it was

just out of this world that parents like that exist. And I think people that are willing to put their children in the show biz, I guess mathematically have to be more like that than people that Yeah, you know, it is inherently more exploitative because there's no way like this unless your kid like literally displays an interest in it at like a young age where it's like hey,

I want to do this. That's not really what's happened. I can't imagine that's necessarily what it is what's happened for some people, like I know Drake Bell wanted to do it and like that was like, you know, him and his dad were like really close and then they had like a really good relationship. And even it's really heartbreaking listening to Drake Bell's dad talk about it because he was like he literally like he knew that something was off about him.

Well he yeah, well he knew that something was off about him, and he was like he sounds like he would tell people like, listen, Drake wants to be immense, he wants to go his own way. He wants me to not be a part of his life. I understand that, but don't let don't leave him alone with this guy. And everybody was telling him was like, you're just being homophobic or something like. That's what they would tell him. It's like he's gay. It's just like he's not.

You're just you're just being home home. He's like, what the fuck? And so it's it's really fucking sad, but like he got so hard. Bro, Dude, that's so hard. That is so heard. That is so heartbreaking that you're you're you're defending your child and people are calling you a homophobe. Bro, that's crazy. It's that would make you a homophobe. That would do it. If if there's anything that would do it, it

would be that. Yeah, I don't know, I saw that I saw that that parent talking about that, and I was just like, I I didn't know. It was always up in the air for me. It's like whether or not, like because like I said, like, I just I don't. I don't like kids like I don't. It's not even that I hate them necessarily, it's just like I don't have anything. I don't have anything to I don't have anything for this, you know, I got nothing.

Uh. I thought, like, I don't know, would I would I like, would I be like as a parent, Like, would I would I be an attentive parent? I remember I've thought this and I always thought for a while I was like, probably not. And then I saw this and I was like, oh, well, I'm I'm no, I think I'd be all right, because this is fucking crazy because even as somebody who hates kids, you can see how obvious, like, dude, I

don't, I don't. I fucking cannot comprehend how you would not call the police in that situation, or at the very least report the fucking guy to the company at the very if you're not going to like call the police on it, which I think is the most responsible thing to do just to protect other people at the very least go to the fucking higher ups Nickelodeon and be like, Dude, this dude sent this photo to my fucking daughter. Uh, he shouldn't be working here at the very least, the very minimum.

My heart would. My heart would. I don't. I don't have like I I often have the moments where I have to sit down and think about what I do, whether I want to become a parent or not. Like I do it pretty often when I sit down, like all jokes, as I clear my mind and I'm like, am I capable of doing this? Am I capable of being a parent? Like cable being strong enough to be like because your child is going to go through hardships, you know that is

a part of existing, basically creating a person. You're basically creating a suffer to suffer, Yeah, suffer, you know. And I have to like really look in myself and be like, will be able to do things? Can you deal with knowing that your kid will go to school and be made fun of for things that they can't control, are things they'll understand, or

there are people that might be able to harm you. And it scares me because it feels in with such a wild amount of anger, Like I'm ount of anger that I'm not, Like I'm not an angry person at all, Like I'm not, but I'm not angry, you know. And I'm like, I don't know if I can deal with that, Like I don't know if I can deal with my kid coming back and saying the kid's bullying them, you know, Like I think about that. I'm like, I'm not gonna let's go beat up this kid. Let's go be to this kid.

Yeah, imagine if a person hurts my child, you know, like I'm gonna be like, I will kill you. I have to have to. I have to not immediately go buy a gun and wait outside this guy's house for hours till they go out to a shopping and then hurt them. So I'm like, I don't It just makes me feel insane. Yes, waiting across the street behind a car for hours, they get out the side and I just let them have it. It's insane, dude. And then imagine

trying to do that and being called a villain for doing that. That's where it's even more wild. You're villainized for wanting to protect your children. It's this world is insane. Dude, And I am not a person that he just said it all the time. But it's really we live in such a wild version of reality that it's just like I need a breather every now and then because it's just yeah, madness. Yeah it really it really is.

It really is crazy. Like I don't know, like I get uh, you know, like I mean, like I said, like a lot of these shows did like they were geared towards you know, Victorious especially is is is very like for for a kids show, it's it's pretty adult oriented, you know, Like even Drake and Josh was in some ways adult oriented. Like I remember seeing I remember see stuff on Drake and Josh where I was like, Drake is just making out with these women with no and it's it's

just like this is a kidchen. I don't understand what's going on. But I don't even think that's like that's not even the problem. The problem is it's just like, how do you have that many how do you have a way how do you have a set full of adults watching people squirt lotion in the faces of uh teenage girls and no one strange, no one kind of was like, look, I don't like that adult jokes, fine, like there's nothing wrong with an adult joke snuck into kids TV. But like,

this isn't even subtle there. There's like there's not even any there's no room for interpretation here. This is just straight up what it is, and everybody knows it, because how could you not. I don't think, like my brain's tainted. I think it's just obviously like I mean, dude, like I don't know, it's I don't know, it's a wild fucking experience. Watching that documentary, no one says anything about it. I would have been

like, this is insane. Anyone I was laughing was laughing really hard though, because cousin Skeeter came up. I don't I don't remember how. It was like a very loose, tangential kind of thing. I think I think you're like the I think the pedophile also might have worked there, but there was no stories from cousin Skeeter. I think he was probably just like you. He just wasn't interested in the black kids, and so there's so no one no one had anything to say. Yeah, right. Sometimes see,

sometimes racism comes in handy. Sometimes it's a shield bro. Sometimes it's a garb man because I gotta say, like like pretty much everybody, all the all the all the victims in this in this scenario, they were they they did happen to be the the palest motherfuckers, like sorry, it's sorry,

it's it's sorry. But to the point where they like they did kind of they did kind of go into like certain other I don't know, it's it's somewhat unfocused because there's some parts of documentary where I feel like I don't know if this is like I don't know if this part is necessarily like I don't know, there are certain parts of it them I'm like, I guess this is important to paint a larger picture, but like you know what it is.

It's like it's like the Halo Show, where like the world is ending, but also there's like a political squabble on this planet, and it's like that's not the point. I understand that there's a political squabble, but like there's kind of like rampant pedophiles running running around. Like there's one part where there's like two female writers share shared a salary. Uh, they basically have

two writers for the price of one. But like that's not like I don't know I don't know if you know any writers, but like that's not necessarily like the most uncommon, like you especially if like I know, for like I know some writers who like their first time in the industry, Like if it's like their first go, like they will sometimes share a like it's not cool, it's not good, but like they'll share a salary with another first time rider for the price of one as a way to like that's insane,

but it is. It is insane. It is crazy, but like there's a pedophile running around. So like I don't I, with all due respect, I don't care that you're not really making as much money as you wanted to make. With all due respect, I wouldn't say I don't care, but I was like, hey, look, we'll get to you after right after this, not we don't care, like I like, right right after the bigger problem, you know, like you know, like your first problem

is get out the cave. Then you worry about getting sun eat. You know that is there, that is, as soon as we get out this cave, I got you. But right now, let's get out this cave. You know, then we'll worry about exactly that stuff. That's what you got to say it. Don't say I can don't care, because that makes it seem so much worse. Well, you know what I mean though, Like in comparison, the level of severity here is just like I mean,

dude, we gotta we got to allocate some resources here. And I feel like I remember, like there's points where the documentary was dragging a little bit and because they were focusing on this, all this sudden like I really hope this isn't it, because this is not this, this is not it's not good. But it's not even a fraction is It just doesn't even come close to even some of the stuff that I've seen in like YouTube videos about Nickelodeon,

Like oh, they shared they hire writers at a split salary. It's like, okay, it's been crazy that they could do that. Whether you can do that is insane. Yeah, I mean, so you experience being a creator in the world is insane. They try to fuck you every way you can. Yet that it has never got paid for pieces they did, It's never got paid for them. Oh yeah, I know, And I don't like it. I don't like this piece after that, I know, I know, I know at least one writer who did that who shared their

salary. I know at least one same, so it wasn't that. And he was a guy too, so it wasn't like I don't think it's necessary. They were kind of framing it as like a gender discrimination thing. I don't know. I mean, it could be like in that case, it might be, but I also know that that is like a that is a practice that has happened. Oh yeah, yeah for sure. But then it goes from that, It goes from that, and then and then it cuts from that to like Brian pet letters from John Wayne Gacy. So he got

letters from John Wayne Gacy and everybody knew about it. No one said anything. It's like what, okay, all right? One of them. That is such an alarming red flag. That is such a powerful that's like the moment where Spider Mass Spider sense goes off and he's like, ah, this is something wrong with this versus that is a that is a crimson tarp, that that is that is beyond a red flag. Really like that, that is that is so not that's fire. That's when I'm laughing because I'm I'm

nervous like this, I'm not laughing. I think it's funny at all, I'm laughing because I'm obnerved. That's you just started the tutorial and your screen is getting redder and redder before you before you've even seen anything. It's like, whoa huh, john Wayne? Why is John Wayne Gacy connected to this at all? When you said, I was like, what, Yeah, it flummes me man Like I lie down on the ground and stared because I was just like, you've got to be joking. But anyway, quite on

set, it's crazy. I highly recommend people watch it. We've talked a lot about what they go into here, but there's there's so much more that I didn't get into, and and it it loses a lot of the heft when I'm just talking about it. You really have to see it to really get the full brunt of like what all this is. And I do think it deserves to be seen. I think Nickelodeon has a lot to answer for. We were talking, we were talking a little bit before about whether or

not we feel like this is like the end of Nickelodeon. I don't think so. I think we're living in like a post Trump world where you can kind of say anything and get away with anything as long as you just continue to not care. So like, I just I don't really see this being like a long term that I think a lot of their stars might exodus, but I I or like might leave. But I do think like there's a

level of like on the animation side. I'm sure the animation side of Nickelodeon's like, well, we don't have anything to do with this, so the like they had to be fair. The animation side of Nickelodeon has had its own fair share fair share of controversy too, like they had John K the creator vend and Simpy was was fucking crazy, but that was a while ago.

That's a long long time ago. Everything you hear about Nickelodeon from the animation side post John K is pretty positive, Like Stephen Hillenburg was was by all accounts like a great person, and Jordan Vazquez was like a fucking Jordan

Vasquez is a freak, but he's like not like an evil dude. Uh So, like, yeah, I don't know, I don't know what happens from here on out, but like I'm really fucking fascinated about what's going to happen with all these like reboots and stuff, because I know I want a Disney one too, like because you know this, dude, they've been doing live action stuff for way longer. I feel like right about this about the

same time. Why do I feel like they probably the Disney it's the Disney Channel original movie thing that has me kind of because I remember those earlier than than live action NICK shows. But I could be wrong. Man, Demand Demand, Demand demanded. I really hope she's okay. She's somebody that I And it's weird to me that Ariana Grande has said it, like like I don't know. Part of me wonders actually, like because Sam's like, what

is it Janet mccurty talks about. Man, I would really love to get Janet McCarty on the show, not not just for like the joke reasons where like like we've talked in the past about like having crushes on or whatever, Like I mean like genuinely like I would love to interview this person because she

talks about having been offered basically hush money from Nickelodeon. She she talks about being offered three hundred thousand dollars if she was to you know, move on and not say anything bad about the creator who everybody's kind of assumed is Dan Schneider or talk about her experiences on the show. So part of me does wonder man like Ariana Grande is like one of the biggest pop stars in the

world hasn't said anything. It is a question like she I feel like because you could, because you can very likely could not say that she hasn't been could just work there and then left. God did George got it right? But there's so much I think about this, so much, so low. There's so many videos of Ariana Grande, specifically doing strange fetish shit like sucking on her own toes and like squirting water over herself and fucking like squeezing.

It's it would be impossible for me to believe that Ariana Grande doesn't look back at that with some understanding that that wasn't okay. Uh And it's technically an adult already by then. I mean, no, I don't think so. I think they were all like maybe sixteen, seventeen, maybe max, because by the time it came out, I'm pretty sure they were all my age, and I was about I was about like fifteen when I was like sixteen. I think she's thirty years old now, she's our age. She's my

age. Oh god, yeah, no, no, no, no, there's no way victorious, way in hell when was victorious twenty eleven or twenty ten? Victorious first episode episode date twenty ten, So that's absolutely not Yeah, yeah, so I'm in I'm that's that's me. That's my junior year in high school at oldest. No, it's my senior year. It's my

senior year at old as. She was sixteen seventeen. Yeah, no, I mean she could she she could be eight eighteen, but still that's still kinda Look, it's not that you're not an adult, right, It's not that you can't like, it's not that like I get it, but like, it's just weird to me that she hasn't said anything, and it kind of begs the question to me where it's like if Jane mcurty was offered hush money, Ariana Grande was certainly offered hush money, and so to me,

it's it's weird. It's weird that she she she ends up becoming like this massive pop star and then just says nothing about any of this when it's like obviously the talk of the town and it is obviously I don't know, man, it's it's bizarre. It's bizarre as fuck. I think there's something up there personally, but that's entire that's all speculation on my behalf. I can't prove any of that shit. I would I would never even necessarily claim that

it's true. But it feels like a very plausible It's the it's Ockham's razor to me, you know what I mean, It's the simplest explanation because like, because if I'm like one of the most famous pop stars in the world, I'm not worried about Like I'm not worried about like what the fuck I'm gonna say about like some old show that I used to work on that like I might owe some level of like loyalty too, But like at the end of the day, if it's pedophiles and shit working on and it's like fucking

abuse and all this stuff, like why would I not like what what would really prevent me from saying anything I fucking wanted to? And by the way, what would prevent me from saying anything that I wanted to and being praised

for it? Like no one would be like fuck Ariana Grande for like talking about how shitty Dan Schneider is or like how shitty the experience was working on Nickelodeon in response to all of this crazy shit, Like there's no social cost to it at all, there's in fact only a social there's in fact only a social benefit to it, which is like a shitty way to think about it, but like truthfully, like I mean, there's no reason why you wouldn't say anything about it unless, in my opinion, you got you either

signed a contract that was very very legally binding, or you accepted hush money that has certain stipulations applied to it and that might be conspiratory. Or you

could be trying to leave that part of your life behind. Yeah maybe that, I mean, that's that's also valid to but like I don't know, even just a vague like you don't even I don't even think you have to say anything about at it, But you could just do like the the standard kinda address it without addressing it, like even if she just tweeted, even if she just tweeted like not surprised with no context, I just something.

I think it's just simply like either she took some sort of money or she wants nothing to do with it. A for thinking that it's it's plausible that she took money. I think it's true, but it's it feels money. They very like these uttered her money as well because they were on the same show together, you know, yeah, and she was like the bigger star. So like there's no I don't know, like it doesn't it doesn't attract to me, like logically, like it makes no sense for for that not

to be at least on the table. Maybe I hope that's not the case. Yeah, experiencing that, I hope she hoped she made it through that that fire Scott Free without any sort of bruises or anything. But at the same time, reel is real and where she was working, she gotta be you gotta tell the truth, man, Like, hey, very likely she could have ran into some really unsavory ship while she was there, and it sucks because no one deserves some wild shit like that at all. Yeah.

Anyway, that's uh, that's quite on set, not particularly funny, but wild. And I don't think that there was really I couldn't think of anything else to talk about really, like, there's there's nothing really happening that is that had to be spoken about considering everything that went on that you have to. You gotta bring that shit up, you know. Yeah, And it's

still kind of ongoing. I know. Dan Steiner gave like some interview with He gave like a twenty minute interview with the with uh what's his face? Oh my god? The guy the guy on I Carly who had the donuts on the stick a lots of Is that him? I don't know Lotso and Flotso, there's no way that's his name. I forgot his name name he it was the black guy. Yeah, his name is Lotso something like that. I think of Teddy Bear from what you call I might be wrong Toy

story. Yeah, I yeah, I don't. I don't know this guy's name. But he gave an interview in response to it, basically, and I watched all of it. I watched all twenty minutes because I was really curious as to what he would have to say about it. And he said, I really like I said, like I was watching it, I was like, I really don't know what to make of this guy. I really don't know what to make of this guy at all. Is all wrong. His aura is all wrong. Yeah, I don't know, he looks like

it's I like it. He looks like a hut. Yeah, yeah, I don't know that's a week because on one, on one hand, it must really suck. Like let's say, for example, like let's imagine, let's say for the sake of argument, very little of what people have to say about Dan Schneider is true because that has happened, you know what I mean, Like that has happened before, Like people have like lied x like

exponentially about like celebrities and famous figures like that has happened. So part of me is looking at us just like man, like, imagine you are Dan Schneider and you genuinely this let me give you no let me give you another examptly no example. Yeah, there's no way someone can lie about something like that involving me and they could have any strength behind it. Well, no,

you're you're totally right. I guess the thing that is the thing that, yeah, you know, where there's smoke, where there's where there's smoke, there's fire, there's often fire, you know, one hundred percent,

hundred percent. But I come at this from the perspective of having been like, like, dude, I've had people call me a literal nazi for years, and people believe that unquestioningly, and there's like really nothing I can do to convince people otherwise I don't really care to do that because like you know, it doesn't really matter to me, but like I've seen it, and so to me, it's like what really fucks me up about it is Drake

Bell, because Drake Bell talks like he was like really like the biggest victim in all this or like at least until we know anything about Amanda, and from his account, after talking about all this stuff, he really talks about how Dan was there to like help him, and so that kind of fucks me up a little bit where it's like, man, that sucks. So for my my read on Dan Schneider is that, like in two different places involving him right now, you're like, yes, guy's sketching me out.

But also at the same time, he's been a herold to so many people, but this guy sketches him. He's he's been a villain to people. He's been a villain to people too, So like I guess, for me, my read on Dan Schneider is like I would never trust you, and I would never I don't know, I would never. I would never want to hang around Dan Schneider. But yea, yeah, that's a very it's

a very safe thing. But at the same time it's hard not to It's it's hard to watch Drake Bell talk about all this and not feel like somewhat appreciative that he had somebody there to go to bad for him in that fucking situation. So, like, I don't know, humanity is a tapestry of complexity. I get it. There's very few people who are pure evil and

pure pure good fair. But like, generally speaking, Dan Schneider should probably never work in TV again because ultimately a lot of this like go live your life, go fucking I don't know what, I don't know what it is. He's made a ton of money. I don't know what the hell he's doing now, Like just chill, retire, fucking exist, but never work Good Kids TV again because, like you, he's made a bunch of money by now, right, there's a lot he mustn't he must have made he

must have made a lot of money. He must have made a lot of money. Right, a nap, We'll take a nap. You made a bunch. Yeah, Ultimately, like he just should never be rent like the environment that he fostered. There was so fucking crazy. The fact that I'll put it this way, the fact that somebody, the fact that most people understood that this guy had a fucking signed letters from John Wayne Gacy and no one said anything about it or that didn't like raise like red flags or concerns.

Oh, that's that's not Snyder. Snyder. No, No, no fact that I should clarify. I should clarify. Brian Peck is the guy who had the letters, but he was working under Dan Schneider and like this couldn't have been like, dude, I am adjacent to the entertainment business. Okay, like we know we we both know people who are in this space. No shot that in a pre pre social media world, a story like

that doesn't come up, Like there's no shot shot did you hear? There's no shot that you don't go to like a party at somebody's housing, Like, yeah, I got these letters from John Wayne Gaycy and that doesn't make its way back to the entire staff on some level. No shot. When you're not distracted by Twitter and like fucking all this other ship, that's all that happened that you happen, Probably you have to tell somebody about that ship that we don't have to tell you about it. Like, guys, yeah,

do you hear about this guy? He's got like this letters from John Wayne Gaycy and he showed them to everybody. Isn't that weird? Did seething like that? I don't know, that's mad? You know what I I you know what I equate it to. I I equate Dan Schneider's evil less in an active capacity, but more like more like in the way that it's it's evil to neglect a child, you know what I mean, like to

to like, you have a you have a kid. You don't have to beat him, you don't have to like verbally abuse him, but you can neglect. You can neglect a person to the point where it's abuse. And I think that's kind of that is the that is the kind of evil that I think Dan Schneider is. Ultimately he's been. He's a neglected evil.

He's he's a neglective evil where like he's like and also to be fair, like there's no evidence that he's a pedophile, but like, uh, he just he walks in a room, in the room's energy changes, you know, I feel, yeah, I know, I don't know there's room videos, there's videos of him, you know, playing around with they don't they're not the most video and they're not the same. I wouldn't make those videos personally, so like I don't really understand the mindset of someone who would.

But like, regardless, you are so you are so oscar for grouching this right now. Bro, you are so lightly skimming this. It's insane, Like I wouldn't do that. I mean just generally and generally empathy is kind of dangerous. I'm trying. I'm trying to make sure that i'm I'm I'm what is it aiming my empathy in the right ways? You know what I mean? I really hope that there's nothing further going on. In suition, I hope this is something else. I hope for everybody's sake, this is

it. We know that it isn't it, though, because we know that Amanda Bynes, dude, Amanda Bindes could blow the ship all open then and and the problem she's went through it is her life. Oh god, that's that'll that'll be nuclear. I want to get Linda hands too, dude. I want Disney so Disney's would be so juicy, it would be so they'd probably kill the person before they like, I feel like Disney would have them shot and killed like that guy. Huh do you hear about the bowing guy?

Which one the boeing was born? Like I got put to sleep. He told his wife. He told his wife like listen, listen, they're probably gonna say that I killed myself. I did not do not believe that shit. And then he and then he killed himself and it's just like, whoa, Okay, I'm probably gonna say I killed myself. I absolutely did not. I'm too scared to do that. Yeah, so I don't know

everybody watched Quiet on set. Uh fuck Dan Schneider. Ultimately, at the end of the day, I'm trying to I'm trying to be like as empathetic of a human being as possible, but I can't. I can't get myself to not say fuck Dan Schneider because it's just so obvious. Like I don't know how you. I don't know how you put so many people in that position. But uh yeah, let's let's let's got on some questions from our

audience over at patreon dot com slash the Snark Tank. We've got simp Lord Supreme wrote in he says, not a question, but I'm a longtime listener. I've just woken up from a fever dream in which Sweeney laughed so hard that he died in the middle of an episode. Derek and Chris continued on without much care and uploaded the episode as it was. I awakened from this laughing hysterically and immediately decided to give you money to tell you this. That's

all I really have to say. Take care. That's crazy. If if one of us died mid episode, I don't think we would post it, but I would render. I think it would be funny for a moment. I would render the episode. It'd be a moment of real comedy where we would like laugh about it, and then like it'd be like, oh, that person's dad. We would laugh about it years later. I think.

I think because because and statistically moment where you're like, you guys all meet up after everybody's then and be like that was fucking I mean, give you guys, give you amount of podcasts, give me the amount of podcasts that I do. It's not even necessarily statistically unlikely that I might let you die during a podcast. Yeah, because it's kind of it's not like a sizeable

percentage of my time, but it's not a negligible percentage. Like it's you say, simplest four hours, four hours plus sometimes that of may we do two hours of snark tank, then we do two hours. Yeah, we do four hours of SNAr tank a week plus the extra animals nine hours, nine hours a week. It's not nothing that'd be funny, it'll be it's actually sometimes more. It's actually like sometimes twelve or thirteen. So like it's a it's a portion, it's it's portion sizeable portion. I don't know,

I don't know percentage, math in my head all that. Well, but like that's how many hours you said about what is the max hours? Thirteen thirteen out of thirteen hours out of a week? What is seventy two hours? That was seventy two hours? Seventy two hours? No, it's not seventy two hours four twenty four, twenty four, does it makes sense? Twenty four? So sorry, it's seventy two weeks. And is it seventy two weeks in a year? Is that what it was? No, it's

fifty two weeks in a year. I'm thinking fifty two instead of seventy two. My brain's wrong. Okay, So twenty four forty eight forty eight times two is there's one hundred and sixty eight hours. There's one hundred and sixty eight hours. Twenty six there's one hundred and there's one hundred and sixty eight hours in a week, So that it's about nearing like nine ten percent. It's a lot. It's a lot, yeah, man, ten percent. A yeek is podcasting, man, I mean you might die, you might

die live. It's yeah, dying live sounds funny as fuck. It sounds funn until it happens tripping. Let me prefay this. Somebody tripping during a live stream and blowing their own brains out with a shotgun. That's kind of wild, like during black and everybody just watching that happen like whoa yeah, I mean yeah wild? Is is? I showed speed, really had a cue that was quick, that was quick speed. And the question is boom.

And the question is if you do you think Dan Schneider could win in like if you threw him in like a like a coliseum with with other pedophiles. Do you think he do you think he has the gumption to survive? Canonically, who's the most powerful pedophile I've ever seen? That's a good question,

like canonically, who's the most deviously powerful pedophile? I mean it's debatable, but Michael Jackson Michael Jackson case is, so that's such a faulty one, you know, because like, yeah, I mean, nobody does make sense. This also doesn't make sense. I don't know. So that's a that's a really weird one, right because I choose I hope it's I hope. I'm in the very middle where I hope it's true and it's not true,

because hope it's not true. Obviously a person I really love their music and that I had hate to have his his idea, like his history be spoiled like that. But I hope it's true because if it's not true, those people just lied and tried to terminate this innocent man for no reason, and that is hainous. That is the most hate. He's like, oh, this guy is innocent and he's he has a lot of childlike faults.

We could use that to make money. That part of me does feel like a lot of Michael Jackson stuff is kind of cope, like there's no chance, Like I really don't think there's any shot that he wasn't a pedophile, Like, it just doesn't. It doesn't make sense today. I think one hundred percent he had he he I think it at were at best for me, maybe that he was genuinely a man child, generally a man child, and there was still an appropriateness, but it wasn't it wasn't sexual at all

aim towards them. It was just inappropriate behavior between an adult and and underage people. I think that's the best I can hope for. Yeah, I don't know, I think but because there's because there's so many people that are like the cases you've seen all the fucking boss it's so heavily conflicted. There's way too much confliction on that. It's like to the point that as a case they had to throw it out because of how much conflicting shit there is.

Yeah, but there's there's I don't know, there's conviction. There's confliction about Dan Schneider too, based on like Drake Bell's testimony and certain other testimonies where it's like, I don't know if I don't know if confliction is enough. I don't know, if I don't know if there's I don't know if confliction is enough to necessarily a swage, a swage the concerns, you know what I mean. Because like it's funny because Dan Schneider's like dance Snider's like

really implicated on vibes alone, like like purely just just down vibes. Like I will say that, before I knew anything about Dan Sneinder, I saw a picture of him. I was like, that's a pit. It's so mean to say, but like he just looks horrible, I know, but like he dude, like look up Dan Schneider, like he looks he just he's got the penophile armor. Don't don't drag us down with you. No, that's not okay. I've never No, honestly, really I don't.

I don't. I look at him like that guy looks odd. But that's about it. I don't think, oh, that guy's a pedophile. I don't think that. My brain doesn't go there. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that I thought he was necessarily from vibes alone, but I will say I don't know. It's like how when you you ever see like a face in the dark in like a shadow, you know what I mean. Like we're like something like, I get scared because I don't know what

it is. But then I see the face and I'm right. But like most people don't react like most people don't trigger the reaction of face and the shadows. You know what I mean? When somebody, do you know what I'm saying? Do you know what I say? Like when for some for somebody to automatically trigger the face and the shadows response, I not, you don't mean this. I know you don't mean this. You're just scared.

You're scared, your your what happiness, your fear response is taking over because you see someone that looks bad to you, right, But the thing is that I don't do that. I don't look at something and think you're I think that you may look more like that than someone else does, but that doesn't mean I think you're that. You look at somebody and be like, oh, that person looks more like they like this, they look more like somebody that I just I just I just mean like and look, I understand

this is not cool to say. I get it. I understand. But if you were to place bets on people m in that scenario, if you were to if you were to place bets on a pedo pool, like, who is most likely? I feel like I feel like a lot of people would just based on picture alone, I feel like people would make that bet. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just saying like, it's it's interesting for someone to have that immediate just to be clocked on vibes alone.

It's just fascinating to me. Anyway, Let's move on. Oh man, I don't think I'm wrong, by the way. Uh Chris getting spit rose by Dark and swine Right says, Hey, my little suck boys. Ever heard of the movie Suki Yucky Western Django. It's a wild West movie from Japan with Quentin Tarantino having a cameo role in it. I've never heard of this in my fucking life. So Yuki Western Django. Uh Taranto, it's a Japanese movie. That's so weird. Is he speaking Japanese? He

probably says the N word. M right comes to the under real quick, guy, I'm god, here you go, have a good night. I Quentin Tarantino is the only white guy in a Japanese movie with a cast of Japanese people, and he's the only one who speaks Japanese. In it.

That's that's crazy, that's awesome. Quin Tarantino is so weird, Like he's such a he's such a I feel like Quentin Tarantino is so clearly like divergent, he's very Yeah, yeah, that's a better way to say an he's one hundred percent or divergent, like looking at that guy, like yeah, that guy. Let me see, this's nicest way possible. You If you reorganized his furniture in his house, he would sell and buy an house. He would sell his house and buy a brain. I think so yeah,

I mean I would do that too. I could not live he could not live in that rearranged house. I can't be here. Yeah, but I don't think that's necessarily like prove like I would do that too, Like I don't think I would. I would just put my stuff back different because like no, because you didn't move it to where it where it is now, so like moving it back is like it's not even really yours anymore. Yeah, you see, look, you see you and Chris say you might have

something that's coming. You know, it's not uncommon because I would just I would be like that's weird as long as it wasn't an entity, i'd be able to put it back. It's crazy, you know, it's crazy. Actually, I didn't notice this until recently because I've had ever since i've lived on my own, I've had guests kind of periodically stay for a while,

and I I have notebooks and like sketch pads and stuff. And somebody drew in one of my notebooks or somebody wrote something in one of my notebooks, and I I stopped using, like I bought a new notebook because all of the pages were in my handwriting except that page. And I was like, I can't, I can't continue this, like I need a new notebook. And I was like, oh, that m gonna make fun. I'm not going to make fun of people like you, because you guys are the backbone

of our country. Yeah, I bet. I bet garbage Maan, I bet every single garbage person is like that. I would I would wage your money. Like they can move people's garbage. You've moved their garbage. It's over. It's fucking up. Mind. Yeah, I'm fine with sleep, but I can't sleep. You've moved my garbage, you reorganized my house. Why would you do that? Why would you win? Why would you do

that. Let me know if that, let me know if that's normal in the chat, if any of you also abandoned notebook because of other people writing them. You're asking chat, You're asking unless a thing, unless the express purpose is a collaborative effort. Like if it's like inherently like kind of like whatever, notebook, I don't mind it. But if it's my notebook, dude, if it's my sketch pad, I can't. And I understand some of you will be like, well, you could just rip the pages out,

but then that's like an incomplete that's like an incomplete notebook. Then I might as well. You are you are? You are very much so selling this. Uh this does that not make sense? You're selling this, uh this form of yourself very much so. Your wife. Let's move on. That was a mean shot. That was just I want to hurt you back. That's all that. Wass are devastated. Yeah, yeah, your wife drinks pea. Yeah, Papa getting owned, loser, Papa Jesus wrote,

and he says, what's good? My boys. I'm sure at least one of you saw the right wing freak out over Sidney Sweeney's tits and how it was the death of woke and other stupid shit like this. What is the most inane, insignificant thing you've seen turned into some kind of political talking point. This is is definitely one of them. I this is probably it. I think this is probably it, honestly, like because because it's literally just a woman's tits. Oh you know what. Actually, she's come so far

based on just her breast. Man, I'm proud of her. Yeah, I mean I'm proud to do that. Man, I'm good. Good for y'all. Dude, make your money, you can figure you make these idiots pay you for having breasts? Man, Like, just do your think she's really a mid act. I've been watching her. I think she did good

in Euphoria because those roles were just well written roles. But I well, that's every She was very able to play like the teenage girl that was having a fucking mountdown because she was trying to get this boy that fucking hated her. But like, I don't know, I think I watched another movie and it was really made. It was really mad. I don't I don't know if I buy that because there not not that what you're saying is true. I just think that I think it's a lot. So here's what I here's

what I'll say. The fact that she's good in Euphoria is proof that she is a good actor, because like, there's no you can't pull a great performance out of an actor who is bad, but you can pull really bad performances out of actors who are good, and that is the job of the I agree and discreem. I think that I think that some people have aptitudes built for Some people are built with certain appts, but we can play certain things, like I think genuinely, some people are meant to be funny actors.

You know, some funny actors have for certain roles that can play that are serious. Some I these are meant to play roles that are not as serious, you know, Like it just depends on what your forte is. Yeah, like Jack Black, I don't think Jack Black could be in a very serious, serious drama movie. I think he is in fact a great actor. I don't think he'd be in a very serious drama movie. But then there's certain actress like you probably don't You probably might have not heard him.

Does actor called Sterling K. Brown. He's from a black panther. He was in this, Yeah, he can play any role period. You can give him anything. He can be at all, you know, And that's the kind of some people are like, he's like he's like a Lance Reddick type where literally, let's could be anyone. You've Lance anywhere. You can put Steve Keith David anywhere too. There's some actors that you can in any kind of role and they will succeed in any kind of role. I

don't think Sidney Sweeney is capable of that. Granted that doesn't mean he's a bad actress. I'll take that back. That's what I mean. That's what I mean, like because I because like I said, like like you said, like Jack Black is a great actor, but yeah, he couldn't be You couldn't put some people just some people can just play anything, you know, and that's not everybody Like like Kristen Bale, Christian Bale could be in any sort of acting role. Same thing with like Robin Pattison as well.

You can put those motherfuckers in anything and they they'll thrive in it. They'll they'll just like I can do this, yeah, but some people can't. Usually they're women. Just say no, Ricky Gervais can't can't be in anything anymore. Can't be a serious actor. He has. He has some of these shows that like try to be a little bit more serious and they're just like this, it doesn't work. But yeah, no, I know. I mean once. There's a show I watched recently called This is Us.

It is a drama show about a family. Please everybody watch it. That's no show has made me feel the way that tries like. I think there's more exciting shows. There's more show that's like that, are more exciting shows that are more like really triumph to watch. But that show made me feel harder than any shover or watched in my life, to the point that I finished it and I feel sad that I'm done watching it, not because it was such an great experience, because I just love the character so hard.

It is heart wrenching. Finishing that show, I cried like four times, like sobbed for real and went to bed because of how fucking in just visceraled. Everybody should watch it. You're not selling me on this. You should watch It's really good. It's so it's such a loving series, dude, It's such a love filled series. I think I think it would be good for you to watch that show. Actually, I think it would be good for your heart. Actually I think it w was. I don't, I

don't. I don't need to cry. Really, it's not crying because you're sad. It's crying because how beautiful it is. Yeah. No, no, anyway, I'm saying, man, you should watch it. It's really good. Maybe maybe in a couple of years. Uh, make me in a few decades, I'll give it a try. Maybe. Uh, but he said, but yeah, like I don't know, Like I don't know cidny s Meaning's range. I think she was great in Euphoria. I think

she's she's a I don't know if. I don't know if she's got like a ton of range necessarily, but I think that makes her bad actress. But as far as like I did want to say, like what he brought up, Cidy Smith's tits is like like that weird kind of right wing thing where it's like, oh, look at me, she's hot and she's successful and everybody likes it and look at that. It's it's a death knell to woke And it's like, I don't know, man, Like I'm a little

bit I am. I am liberalist fuck and I I admire a nice parentits I have no problem. I'm so I don't get it. But like I there is one thing that I've seen that kind of blew my mind lately, which is like there's a political politicization going on with architecture. I don't know if you've seen this. So and to be fair, I understand what the

point is. I just think people are going like really overboard with it, where it's like they're comparing a lot of buildings from you know, the nineteen twenties and the nineteen thirties and and you know, like the eighteen hundreds, and they're comparing them to modern day buildings and where there's all this conversation going

around. It's like, man, architecture used to be so beautiful and so like, uh, you know, we put a lot of love and care into the artistry of these buildings because they were a reflection of us as a society. And you know, you know, we used to take pride in that and we used to it used to give us like aspirations. And and they're they're making buildings big glass boxes on purpose to crush the human spirit so that you're depressed, and you know, the it's it's like, I don't

know, it's getting weirdly political. And I did want to bring this up because I understand, like I don't, I don't disagree that having nice architecture like what we used to have is generally like a positive thing for us, like mentally and socially. Like I do think that is a I do think that reflected itself in a positive way. And I do think there is a degree of sadness to see cities kind of becoming copy pasted meccas of big glass

boxes. That is sad, and it is way more depressing than having like really really nice buildings that are like in and of themselves works of art.

But the idea that it's being done but can I say, hold on, But the idea that this is being done purposefully to whittle down like the human spirit, and not just because hey, it's cheaper and more efficient to just build a big box than it is to spend an insane amount of money designing the most beautiful building you've ever seen, just so it can become a train station. Like, the idea that this is anything other than just cost and money is fucking batch. It insane. It gets cost money and it's just

natural evolution like that is how, that's how everywhere. Like obviously, once upon a time we built very much. So the early parts of our design culture were very European, you know, very Victorian still because we were British, you know. So that's why you go to the East Coast, particularly because because these people probably have never left America, because they don't, they

don't, they don't know what they're talking about. So if you go to the East Coast, I've been to London, the buildings look like London's buildings, just they're taller, they're much higher up than they are in London. When you move further inland and over here, you meet more architectures that's mixed with people that were the natives of maybe probably Mexico, or people that were the French that have designs. If you go to New Orleans, you know,

it's a bunch of mixing of things. I think modern architecture all over the world is more of the giant high up a more open line, because it makes you feel like you're outside even though you're inside of a place. That's why Dubai's architecture is like that. So Architch in Italy is like that architecture in fucking France and London. They all of them shared that kind of idea because it's the nature of this evolving because more cultures interact with each other

and you want to see more. You know, there's more higher buildings, and like obviously a high up view is always a very expensive, like very drawn thing. So it's just that's that's so stupid. Granted I understand that, yeah, you know, like a Victorian uh uh, some buildings in New York with the gargoyles and stuff like that looks sick. They look really really really cool because of the esthetic they're displaying. But like, that isn't

it isn't political, It isn't breaking the spirit right. First of all, an open building is more spirit through enthralling, I think, than a fucking big old stone castle, you know. But the idea, I think, the idea that people have is like that it's all glass to kind of to kind of convey the idea that you have no privacy, which I don't know, that's not really I don't believe that. I think it really has everything

to do with natural light and all that stuff. But I but I don't I don't necessarily deny, Like I do think there is a depressing aspect of going around and seeing like, oh, hey, this building exists in New York and intell and in la and in fucking Austin, because it's just like copy pasted architecture from all over the place, and there is like a difference that is kind of everything everything I know. I know, but that's what

I'm saying. It's like, well, we're talking about this from the perspective of American anyway, so like and in in the country, like you a lot of and I'm sure you've seen this a lot of like the luxury buildings that come up, like the luxury it's all the same, And that is I don't know that is depressing that there is like no matter where you go,

everything is kind of the same. And it is kind of like saying, and there there really is no hint of artistry or style in the same way that there used to be. I don't disagree that that is probably like I don't think it's like I'm massive. I think ultimately the biggest, massive contributing factor to the reason why everybody is sad. It's just the way that

the world is. It's not necessarily the architecture or not. I think we'd be a lot happier with a happier world and the same architecture that we have now personally, But I do think it's like, yeah, it is depressing, but the idea that it's depressing on purpose for that reason and not just because. Look, it's just we could spend fifty years building the most iconic looking library in the world, or we could build a big box and fill it with books in ten months. Yeah, for like a fraction of the

cost, And that's what it is. I think ultimately what it is is like we don't really value We don't really value people enough to give them something beautiful for their community. I think that really is true. I don't think we valueating the nail on the head in a very harsh way that people don't like thinking about because they're too pissing and over things that are way stupid than

that. Yeah, so in some ways it's it is accurate. It like they we are very uncared for and your mental well being is not really important to people. But the depressive architecture is a side effective them not valuing enough, not valuing you enough to put money into the community to build something that could potentially be inspiring or be something that could be you know, looked upon

as like a you know, a totem of the of the community. I think that's really more of it as opposed to a direct like let's make this building a box on purpose because it's depressing. Like they wouldn't do that if it was more expensive, If it was if it was less expensive to design, like a Gothic cathedral, they would do that every time, and you'd probably get sick of seeing Gothic cathedrals. But I will say, man, like some of those buildings in New York, like the what is it the

cathedral and in New York is fucking gorgeous. Even Central Terminal, they're gorgeous because gos was a beautiful cut. That's term was different. I think that's a different But no, there's something about that every single time where you like go in there and like that it's so fucking big, and those big windows you look up, you see all the fucking you see all the astrology signs, all of the stars all over the place. I think that is.

I think Grand Central is different though, because I don't think anywhere else in New York really looks that particularly great. They're just big buildings. Well, that's that's true. Now, I think the argument is that, like there used to be places that were more like that, well not when we were thinking, not many of them in our lifetime, not in our lifetime,

but like we I've lived to see some of them go. Like I've lived, Like there was a club that I used to go to that was built in like like this old thing and now it's like a fucking shake shack, and it's it is. It is demoralizing to see that because it was like one of the more it was one of the more memorable pieces of architecture that I can remember seeing because living in the Bronx, they were just buildings.

They were just like drab colored. We're not talking about them, you know, you know the color the well Manhattan is like the same color except for like the middle, the middle is green. The middle of Manhattan is green, and then the bottom manhat has a little bit of blue. Ye, there's still like every building is pretty much the same, like drab brick that's been old that's started to turn a little bit grey, the reddish the grayish

brick color. Then there's like the the beigeus color, or like the brick color of the building, and I just don't I really feel like it was pretty right unless or you're you're like you were near somewhere that was directly, you know. I always really like the esthetic. I like the brick and and and the Brownstones a lot, like I like when I was young. When I was young, I really wanted to bring and still to this day, honestly, like if if they built like a modern brown Stone, I

would move into that thing so fucking quick. I love brownstone buildings. And just like the feeling the stoop, Like there is something about that that is that is like it would be so nice to just come home and like I don't even smoke, but like you know, like just I don't know, just just to sit on the stoop and just like drink an iced coffee for a little bit or just and I missed my stop from upstate New York.

I missed that ship, dude, because I remember when it would snow, I would sit on my stoop and watch it snow and it was so fucking nice. Oh dude, And I can't watch that shot all here anymore. Like these are the moments, you know, Like I don't often miss New York. I don't write, but then we talk about these random moments about like being because because upstate where we lived was beautiful. It was a very beautiful place. It was just it could do, it could be there were

there, they were at times it was beautiful. Half the year it was really pretty, and then half of the year it was the worst. The most depressing thing you've ever seen. Just dead dead dead dead dead dead. No, it was only dead right before it got really pretty again. Though, it was really dead before it got snow pretty again. Yeah, it was really gross though. April and September I remember being particularly beautiful, uh

where we were winter. I love the snow covered mountains. You remember the mountain in front of my house, Yeah, that was left that covered in snow. I like the winter when it snows, but the second it stops snowing, the snow becomes it sucks. It's not even that it gets very like a gray field. Gray field. It loses so much of it when it's like and then like when when it when it falls off the trees and then you so you just have like these like gross fucking dead sticks coming out

of this white ground. It's like when the when the snow is still on the tree branches, it's it's gorgeous. And then it's like, you know, I miss it. I want to go back. So I want to now, I want to go back to New York. I want to spend. I want to spend. I want to spend a winter in New York. But the winter New York sucks. It's really not that it's it's really not that bad. When you when you you gotta you gotta go to Chicago or like Minnesota or something, and then and then you'll be like, you

know what, it's not so bad. I'm going to Chicago this year. Unfortunately, Lily really wants to go, really wants to go to Chicago. What even is the bean You might see someone someone get shot, I guess statistically, but I mean, I've never once had a desire to go to Chicago. Like, I don't know what's there. I don't know anybody who lives there. I think I think Eddie BURBECKI still live there or something. He's from there. I think, yeah, he's from I know he's from

that state. I don't know if he's you know, from that city. But yeah, anyway, yeah, let's move on comrade common balls, He wrote in he says, Hello, three little funny men in my cranium.

What do you think a future anthropologists would think of would think if the only thing left of the Internet was the Stark Tank podcast in its entirety, I think they would have a confusing amount of usable historical context given what this show is, because I think I do think we talk enough about things that are happening that I do think that there is like you, you, you you

could glean historical value out of our podcast. If it was the only you wouldn't get a lot of it. You wouldn't be hearing about like the War of eighteen twelve or like you know, or like you know, any like real serious shit, especially about world history. But you you would. You would hear about You'd know about the assassination of Kennedy. You'd know about the

assassination of shinzo Abe. You would know about the fact that there was like a children's television network that was infiltrated by fucking molesters, like you would know. You would you would know about election only you would know about only the stuff that you can make a joke out of. But everything else would be really outside the preview. Yeah, like context, that's just serious. Is

you like what that happened? Yeah? Yeah, like you you wouldn't be able to You wouldn't be able to put together a comprehensive history of the United States or anything like, you would just get really brief snippets. It's kind of like how I imagine some people feel whenever they see like those clips of like the Mexican weather women yep, you know where they're just like they're only really getting a fraction of what's of the Mexican experience here. Yeah, yeah,

like, oh well, this is not what Mexico is. What else was all the suffering? They're just these women with big boobies and big asses walking around telling you the news. But I'm pretty sure my cousins there are telling me it's horrible. This seems fantastic. If Mexico was like like how it was on the weather on their weather channel, no one would leave everywhere. It would just be sure prosperity. It'd be love and prosperity everywhere.

That's it. Yeah, there would be that they would leave. They would be eradicated about rest of the world because of how prosperous it would be. But we got to take that from you guys. You guys can't have that. That's not fair. It is about the Latin American news bro. It's amazing. It is pretty wild pouring hot sauce on Derek's gape direct him Jesus Christ. That might he might be he might be experiencing this as we speak

in that ice cream truck. Got no idea, poor guy. I don't know why they would have hot sauce on the ice cream truck, but like I think, I think people are experimenting anyway. He wrote it, and he says, I know how you all feel about having fans on the podcast, and rightfully so, but I feel like the one exception should be the King of Haphazard, especially since you've met him and can kind of sort of

judge whether or not he's a psycho. I don't even know if he'd be interested, but I think he's the only one who truly deserves it, and if not, you can always have me on. I'm cool too, at least that's what my mom says, thank you. I mean, so he was as cool as fuck. Actually he's really nice. That would that would be That would really be the only caveat that we would make. I think, is somebody like that, like I gave him that's how that's how nice

he was. You were there right when we met him and I was like, hey, can I give you a hug? Dude? Like was that at the live show? Live show? The live show was an insane experience? That was first of all that was that was an experience like no other, Like being a part of it was like just here insanity, like walking around talk taking that many pictures, like it was just it was just like it felt like a moment of surrealness, you know where it's like, dang,

dude, people really do listen to us. Its fucking awesome. You were fucked, dude. I was so mad that I was so sick. I was so furious because like we had a rough day, granted Chris, because we had to wake up earliest fuck in the morning. We had to leave the fucking airbnb that we were at. We had to get there. You had to get you had to get to the city. I remember, you had to get to the city. You're already tired. But he got there and you were like, what's going on? So you can stay with

me and Lily, you stay with us. We stayed up and watch the backroom compilas it's for like four hours and then we ate in the morning. My stomach was just ruined, Like I just like, I'm like keeled over in pain at that live show, and you could see, like if you watch it, like both the Sacred One and the Start Tank one, I'm like, I'm really barely holding it together. I'm actually astounded that I made it through. It reminds me of that episode of there's an episode not that

people would know. I only stumble across this by sheer happenstance, so like there's no reason why people should know this. But there's an episode of uh, the Late Show with Steve not Steve Carol, who the fuck is? Who the fuck is the Stephen Colbert where he's interviewing where he's interviewing Steve Plume, he's interviewing h Bradley Cooper and his appendix explodes and he's still just yeah, Colbert, Like his appendix like exploded earlier that day and he was just

like, oh man, I gotta do the show. So he's me the show and he's fine, but like a week later he's like, yeah, dude, my appendix burst that day, and I was I was experiencing toxic shock while I was in while I was doing that fucking interview and watching that live show of us the Snark Tank, the Snark Tank Live and the the

Sacred Symbols Live that we did that day. It I can see it because that's that's not what happened to me, but it's what felt like I thought for sure, like my appendix exploded, Like that's what that's what what I thought happened. And I was like, and I was like an idiot I am. I was like, I don't want to inconvenience anybody by going to a doctor. Sure, I will absolutely man, I will absolutely die. I will absolutely die to avoid getting in people's way. I think I've learned

that about Like sincerely I have. I've learned this about myself. I wodn't even say that as like a point of like pride or like it's just it literally is true. I really thought, like I was so intense that pain, I'd rather not be a nuisance to people. I genuinely believe that about myself. Yeah, where I'm like, I'll just I'll just go to bed, Like that's what like, when I'm really in pain. I'm like,

I'll just go to bed. You know, dude, there's a part in the life shout and if I don't, I don't, you know, you can see me like it's like my head's like there are certain points that like my head is down. My head is that because I'm trying to like charge up the key to keep myself going. And then at this and then at the Sacred Rue, the Sacred One, afterwards it was like slightly better, it was still so bad, like I was like leaning back in like ridiculous

ways. There's a point where I just laid down on the stage as like a I saw an opportunity to make a joke out of lying down, and I took it because I need because I needed to lie down, like I serious pain. So you seriously lied down because you needed it. That's crazy doing live shows. I was supposed to do a live show this well, the Saturday that uh we're recording this, I'm gonna be in New York. I'm just gonna lie down because I really I really really need a moment.

I had to do it. I need a moment. I was really annoyed because I wanted that show to be I wanted that show to be better than it was, and I couldn't because that was a fucking We did a good job, though we didn't do a bad job at all. We didn't do a bad job considering. I was just I remember just being frustrated. I was like, damn, I really wanted, I really wanted. I wanted

to go crazy, like I wanted to like walk around and stuff. But like I just I couldn't did a pretty I think I did a pretty decent job trying to hold it together because I tried to hold those show together, and I was like, I think, yeah, it was good. We did a good job. Man, you were just you were just dying afflict. You just afflicted, so you had to make a choice. Astro Boy wrote in it says, hello the three peeps that keep me saying at work.

Longtime fan of Chris and sweensin is twenty fifteen when he was a Gremlin and longtime fan of the pod, got a job and paid for y'alls Patreon to pay back for all the free laughs you give me. Thank you man, appreciate it. The biggest, biggest uh. The Patreon continues to skyrocket, by the way, crazy, So thanks again for all your support. Like, I think there's a potential. Let me check real quick. I want to make sure I'm not lying or making this up. But we we

very well might be. Yeah, I think we might be able to hit like two K this year in Patreon soon. Patreon just keeps growing. It's crazy. You just wait two on Patreon. Mm hmm, because we're sixteen, we're past past two k. Well no, I mean like in paid, Like I know total is two K, but like I mean, like in paid. I think, man, we might We'll see dude, thank you anyway, we appreciate it. Thanks ask for boy and and all the people like him who decide to pitch us a buck or two. And if

you don't do it anyway, do it right now? Yeah, you better. We'll give you your money. So I find you and I'll eat you. But he says, so quick. Question, what are your all's favorite Spider Man costumes? My personal favorite is the black seat Spider Man that Peter wore when he ran Kingpin. Uh first Caucasian fives. So what are y'all's favorite design? We're designed to the suit. It's good, U. I

don't know right away? Before we before we do this, did you see that they're doing the Spider Monday thing, like, oh, yeah, we're gonna go. We're gonna go see you want to go see him with us every one Monday. I would love to. I'll be I'll be gone one of them because I'll be in SD You're probably gonna be there with me. Actually you probably won't be there as well, but yeah, because my birthday stuffed for San Diego. But other than that, we're going to all of

them. So if you come by the Mondays, well we'll go and watch all of them in theaters. Yeah, I definitely, I definitely do want to do that because that is okay. The fact that they're bringing all of them back is crazy. It's gonna be one it's the fifteen. It starts the fifteenth. I cannot wait. I told the Lichs like, yeah, we're gonna obviously second not wait, but anyway, yeah, so quickly, yeah, so the name three Spider Man costumes have three? Name three?

I have three? I really like, all right, you go first because I have to think about, like I have to remember the names of them. So obviously we got the classic suit, Classic Spider Man Suit, little round Stubby Spider. It is my favorite Spider Man suit. Then we got obviously the comic black suit, amazing design, probably a little more modern one where the white tendrils actually connect to each other from the front to back around

the side. That's the one I really really like as well. And then we have the future Foundation suit, which is pretty much the white version of the black suit. This is the one I really really do. Those are my three favorites. I love those costumes. And then fourth will probably Mos Marles. I was gonna have a fourth one Mile's regular suit, but I really really liked the three black white one and then the original costume are just perfect for me. Yeah, I don't want to say I do love the

original suit. That is probably like one of my favorites, but just to keep it a little bit less of a copy paste list, I do think I do have to have some crossover because I do love that original black suit. That of that original black suit is I think designed. I think I

think that original Black suit. I can't say this for certain, but I feel like it's not I don't think it's unreasonable that it I feel like it might be true where the black Suit spider Man, the original black suit Spider Man from the comic is the suit that got me to pay attention to Spider

Man in the first place. I think I remember seeing I think I remember seeing that comic cover, and I think I remember seeing like a toy or an action figure that of that costume and being like, that looks fucking sick. I want it. And I don't even think imunderstood what Spider Man was at that point. I was like, really, really really really fucking little, so that that one always stuck with me. It's such a good suit,

dude. The patches on the hands, the white spider on the front of his bat in front and in the back, the white eyes of the black skin, and then if you're doing the one from the show as the highlights of Blue, sometimes the one is the highlights of Red and Blue. It's just it's just it's good. It's so good, dude. Yeah, it's it's just a really it's so simple. It's not overdesigned. It's like really simple. It's just a black suit and it just looks really good.

And it's also just like it feels more Spider Many to me than a lot of other Spider like, like I like the red and Blue suit too, obviously, but like that's very spider like that that entire suit, Like, I love it, even just the white glaring the glaring white logo on it just kind of reminds me of like the the black widow red thing on the back of Like this is this is so cool? The second one. This is, by the way, not necessarily in order of importance. It's really

in order of cadence for the episode. But I really like I have a soft spot not for every way that it's depicted, but certain depictions of the Spider armor Mark one. There's something about, Yeah, there's something about the fact, there's something about the fact that it is literally just the Spider Man

suit but basically medieval armor that is really fucking cool. I don't like the way it looks like in this in Spider Man two the game, Like I like, I don't like the way it looks in game, but I remember really loving the way it looked in the PS one game, the original Spider Man by never soft. I remember loving the way that it looked in certain comic panels that I remember seeing growing up, So that like that version of

it. It doesn't translate well to certain mediums or whatever, but I like my favorite version of that suit is probably like up in up in the list of like my favorite Spider Man suits, and and I I have to I know that this is like a controversial one, but I have to say this is not surprising, but like I love I love this SPI this specifically the Spider Man to Raimi suit. I love love that suit not because it makes sense, not because it it it because it doesn't make sense. It's so

high quality and so unreasonably good. There's no reason why Peter Parker would be able to make something like that. But it looks so distinct and like it it looks it doesn't look like any other Spider Man suit, but it also looks like Spider Man. And I love the like the hue of blue, specifically like the dark the darker blue on the legs. I love the I love the big Spider I I don't love it as much as I love the

British read to the brickish red to of his the rest of it. And I think what I think, what I think What makes it for me is is and this is like a something that would probably like break a lot of other suits, but I think it works really well for the suit is the

fact that the mask is like a face plate. Like I understand that it doesn't make sense, but like from like sheer like just speaking from like a visual perspective, like having that solid like there's there's an iconography to the shape of Toby maguire Spider Man's face that I cannot deny that, Like when I see a silhouettes, it's like that is even if it's just a head, I'm like, that's Toby McGuire Spider Man's head because it's got that specific shape

to it that the game doesn't have, and I think that's that's why it looks so fucked in the game. Also, it just looks ill shitty in the game, to be fair, like, I don't think any other version aside from the movies, makes it look as good as it actually does. And that's kind of like a problem with it because like every everything fails at it because because I every day personally I like the Raimi suit. I hate the Raimi black suit. That is that I have a really big and they

can't and they couldn't. They couldn't make it the way it looks in the show because of the nature of the black suit is so glossy and slimy. That's literally an alien that like you know, like like our friend Hans just like like he literally was like he called me. He was like, dude, this is why it can't work, because they told me the pictures and everything. He was like, it just can't work in live action. It's

not gonna look good. The way the light would reflect off of it would be really fucked and recording it, it just wouldn't look good if it was a slimy thing. And I'm like, I know, but the black Suit is a flawless character suit that is the best. That's the best alternate costume period and and in hero history, it is the best alternate costume. Yeah, yeah, Evil that Batman has a better costume in Spider Man, that's

true. But Batman does not have a bad And that may be true, and people people argue back and forth, like this person has the best costume, the best costume, X Y and Z, all these heroes, right, but you cannot say anyone has a better alternate costume than Spider Man without a doubt. That is an unwinnable argument. The black suit is perfect. I think the black suit is just the Raymi black suit. I don't I

don't love it. I like it in the context that like it makes sense within the within like the it makes sense in the realm of that movie. But like I would have way, I would have preferred to see the original black. I understand why it didn't work. I understand why they couldn't do it, but like even just even if they just got rid of the raised webbing, just something to distinguish it from like the original from white, that's it. Do you think like if the webbing was white that would have made

a difference. No, there's it'd be too much. It'd be too much webbing on if it was all white. You know. That's kind of the thing. I remember, how No, you know how the game, you know how it looks in the Spider Man video game, the new one, how the wives look white, and it's just too much on it. Yeah, it would just be that but black right now, the ways weapons should just be down and it should be at least a big white spider on the

chest. But I was told that filming that would not look good. It would not look good on film because having a big, glaring white piece of thing on this dead while all the lights are on him would fuck up the way it would film, it would look in filming. Yeah, it was exposure. Yeah, I understand. I understand why it looks the way it does by necessity, but like it's it's not my favorite suit at all.

But like I do, I have to say man like during there's something about the way that suit looks in those movies that it's just like it looks really fucking good, like for a live action adaptation of like a superhero suit to be First of all, keep in mind that suit was made at a time when when when we got superhero movies, the suits were like it felt like studios were embarrassed by the suits, you know what I mean, Like Batman had to be really cool. You know, it had to be like all

this. I don't know I'm saying that Batman's I'm not saying that Batman's suits in the Bail movies were bad by the way. I'm just saying like they're very not comic accurate, like because like I think there was a there was a there was a fear that like if they did that, no one would like it. Same thing with like X Men, where they they just didn't have them in they had them in the black you know, the what do

you what do you call? Yeah, and then so like it was at a time where like it was really like they just weren't doing that, and so they did take some liberties, like the eyes are sharp and that there's raised webbing, but that is a faithful as fuck costume. Like the the lines are where they need to be, the spiders are where they need to be, Like the colors are what they what they are, Like they're darker for like film purposes, but like and I just remember being like smitten by

it because I saw it. I remember seeing it in motion for the first time. It was like seeing it in in the movie made me believe like, oh this this guy could be real. And I'll never forget that specific moment where it's just like that made me like believe in Spider Man in like a way that I hadn't really quite thought of before, I understand. And so that so that suit is like really important to me. I don't think it's the best suit ever, but it's one that I have the most connection

to for sure. Black black suit is so so good, such a well designed suit. For no reason either. They were just like the guy that made it to the guy made it for like a few dollars. You say about the guy that made it for like a few bucks. Yeah, they gave seventeen dollars. Shout out. I love the eyes too, like the specific shape of the eyes. It's just they're different, they're more they're more angry. Yeah, I'm like, but they're also like they're also like more

round. It's good. Like it's it's a they're it's a good suit. And shout out to you. Also, Alex, the Alex Ross suit. I like that suit a lot. Oh, the Black Assassin suit. I don't know if it's the Black Assassin suit. It's just the thread of black if I'm on a slack assassins Spider spider Man me, yeah, yeah, it's it's like this was crazy, the red and like the black rest of the body and he has guns in his fucking wrists. I wanted so I didn't even know that. I only saw. I only saw it because it

was like an unlockable costume for the Toby Maguire for the first game. You could get the Alex Ross. It does costumes that old Jesus Christ. Yeah, isn't that crazy. It's called Alex Ross and in that game, so like That's what I always knew it as I didn't know it was like a would you call it? It's what happens is that costume where like if he was if he was trained by Wolverine Wolverine or train to become an assassin.

I obviously Spider Man's powers lend towards being an assassin so well that he was like, I'm just gonna train you to be in this killer and he becomes like a fucking the best hit man on the planet because Spider Man's powers are ridiculous. Yeah, you get this. You go up against this five foot like five foot ten like twig and you're like, I'm gonna fuck this guy up. And he picks you up and throws you a few city blocks and you're like, well darn or he's on your ceiling. You don't know he's

there. I love that costumes. It was very good one as well. Yeah, the one in I don't know if this is true in the comic, but like the one in the in the PS or the PS two Xbox or six or not Xbox or six PS two Xbox game has like the rounded Spider on the back too. I think it does. It's a it's a it's a it's just pretty much like the original one. Yeah, and it's got like the Circle Spiders, the Raging Did you see the Sparking Zero stuff for today? Oh dude, yes of course I did. I. Oh

god, we got to talk about that a little bit. I forgot about that questions. No, no, no, you're right. I'm so excited. It looks so good. It looks so good. Yeah, So so we're talking about we're talking about there's a new game coming out. Basically, it's called Sparking Zero. It's a dragon ball fighting game, arena fighter. It's been a long time since they've made one of these, specifically in this style, because they like they tried, like they did like Ultimate t Kaichi

that sucked. They did Raging Blast and Raging Blast two, which I felt just weren't very good. But this looks straight up like like it looks it looks like one, two three, but it looks gorgeous, like even just the way that they're charging and like the the way that or looks and they're trying to like, this looks so good. It looks it looks its like again, dude, it's just crazy even to the bar, even to the

bars they have. Yeah, you don't even have to even have you remember remember the transformation secondary bar in the below one way, like if you got to go from one to if you hold it, you go up to levels. It even Vat's back And I'm like, this is and you can deflect fucking gallic guns and common and when freaking free, but you just slaps the

common out the way. Dude, I was like, is this is probably I don't know what it says about me, but like this is probably like the most excited I have been for a game in a very long time, because I've been wanting this type of like I haven't there's no there's a lot of RPGs, all right, there's a lot of Souls borns. There's a

lot of first person shooters. There's even a lot of fighting games, right, but there's not I have yet to experience joy in a fighting game with the casualness and and the and the intensity of like when I would play like with like friends of mine, Like there was something about that time. But the music, the style, the direction, the fact that it's obviously connected to a universe that I love that like I haven't gotten in a long time.

I hated Raging Blast and Raging Blast two. I don't know, I don't even know what they just something about the controls and just the way that it looked and and uh, I remember being annoyed that they changed the bars to those bubbles, like it was like a circle. They were circle. Yeah. I didn't know I was dying. I didn't know I was dying. I was like, am I hurting now? I was like, is that my energy? Is that my health is? Is? Like? What?

Like, what the fuck is going on? So that UI shit didn't really make sense to me that other games later on had like weird like overlays over it. I didn't like Cacarat really that much the way it played. And I don't know, seeing this again and seeing it looks so much like this sure time I saw when I was younger, you know, like the image in my brain, it's that I'm seeing it again. I'm like, oh, I remember it looking like this before too. Yeah, And it's

making me. It just it just gives me a degree of excitement that I haven't had because I don't know. We lost Toriano recently, you know, it hit Dragon Ball Super. The manga just got to the point where it was like the coolest point by far, Like we just we just got like the the first time in years we got a full like battle royal from all the Saints. It was Broley versus gold Coo versus goaltender versus Gohans Johnson's vegeta.

We haven't had one of those moments in like decades in dragon Ball Z. You know, we've all these very like yeah, like, what when was your last time everyone really fought with these was if that maybe like we I don't think we ever had a moment where all the sands really just fought against each other. It's like, let's just have a let's just let this fight it really, it literally was just the same saga like that was. And that was just because it was the were enemies. They weren't even as

like just training with each other to get each other stronger. And it just felt really good, you know, and then like we lost, and then like just all that stuff happens and then compound for me. Also, I really start playing the card game for Dragon Ball because it's a card game that came out recently really fun. Yeah, and then now this comes out too, and I'm like in a in an era of so much sadness for all of us who love why he created. There's so much beautiful stuff coming on.

So it makes me feel good in my heart to see like that Dragon Ball is not dead, you know, it's it's it's not gone yet. Yeah, people argue it should be gone, but I'm loving what I'm getting from it right now. I'm loving it. It can die after this. I'm fine with it. But like, but I but I want my I

want my tank kaychi and the fact that we're I don't know. The last tan Kaichi, the last real tan Kaichi game came out in like fucking two thousand and seven or something like like a definitely long time ago, definitely nearly twenty years ago. There's there's alternate ta kaichi. But like that sucks. It's really bad. Like it's not it's not even close to Yeah, it's not. It plays it. I didn't buy it. That's how good. That's how bad it was. Yeah, I wasn't. No, I didn't.

I didn't either. I played it a friend house. It's like, oh they got a Dragon Ball game. It's like okay, And I played it and I was like this is this place itself? Literally like it like you. I think, if I remember correctly, you can't even throw beams if you're like really close to someone, like it just doesn't let you because it's just like you're not in beam range. And it's like, this is so stupid. This is not at all what tan Kaichi was. It looks

just play as Gohan. I like to play as mistic Gohan. I can't like to use my beast form. I could like to see Jack Orange Piccolo. That is something thing I want to see in that game is so big. I just want to see lumbering Piccolos standing over people. It's gonna be is gonna have a transformation that's gonna be It's gonna be exciting. Finally, I remember he had sync yet sync with Now remember it wasn't a compition. It's one of those like the you like you use the bars and you just

get like a bunch of power ups on the lower screen. He'll finally be able to transform into something. I'm so excited. Oh yeah, I can quick enough, dude, that game cannot come quick enough. Yeah I was. I was super sad to see that there wasn't like a release date at the end of it, because I'm I'm really fucking eager to play it. We have to play you understand this. Come over, Yes, yeah, just come over. We're just gonna it's gonna be in my house. We're

gonna have food where it's gonna play dragon Ball for hours. Oh yeah, dude, it looks so good, Like the movement looks good, the art style looks my last everything is dude, so flying past you, dude. Oh man, I'm really curious how the balance of like trying beams is gonna work. Like I wonder if you can if it like takes energy or like like you need it. It's gonna be timing. You remember an old ones time you could carry like the charge key blast if you just block it the

right time, you slap it out the way. Yeah, but like, I think it's gonna be really strict timing that it's gonna eat a lot of them to the face by fucking it. I think it's timing, and I think it's gonna I think I think it will consume key to do it. I think that's the only way to make that fair. Yeah, for sure, if you gotta spend key to do it, you gotta spend key to

get rid of it. That makes sense, Yeah, because otherwise you could just spam the moment, you know, you just deflect anything, and there's no strategy. I don't know. Yeah, I'm really I'm fucking so siked for it. I can't believe the way they look the designs. It's insane. Wait, how how well, like just how much clear? Like time they took in the designing the faces of local vegeta again, they were like, oh, the Super movie looked good. Let's just take the good parts

of that and put it into a fucking video game. And I'm like, yes, thank you, thank you so much. Yeah, I dude, I'm watching I'm watching it. Yes, it's hard not to like the bar His hair is brown, dud. Did you notice that Isa's hair is brown? Like when you see the light on his hair, you see the inner colors brown. Finally, oh yeah, kinda. I do think his I know, maybe it's maybe it's alternate costumes or whatever, but like his his

his armor's a little bit too black. But like it's such a minor comparison. Yeah, like I wanted to be a little bit more blue, but like that's such an complaint. It might be it might be super That's why it might be super Vegeta. That's oh, that's true. Yeah, cousin super he has, I don't know, and it's super he has because yeah, Goku's armor is a little dark, A little dark, not too dark.

I think it just might be like the color prection in the game is like the way that they're showing it is like kind of like maybe like a little bit more saturated or a little bit more contrasted. But like, dude, how much flu do you have? You're flying? You're just able to ziperroun. You guys don't get Some of you guys probably don't remember ten Kai. I think that's why you guys don't remember. I remember it coming out.

I remember the first one coming out and it being pretty fun, and then also the second one, like it came immediately after the first one. I feel like one and two came out. It was a year in like weeks of each other, almost because I was still busy playing one, and I remember in one you couldn't pick you couldn't go Super Saiyan. You had to pick Super say pick them, and I hated I hated that ship. And then the second one came out, and then two was like encapsulating for

everybody. I remember too. There was one point in a game where you're doing your story mode where you have to fight five mecha freezes where go cool and Vegeta, and that fight sucked. That was such an annoying fight. They had less life, but they were just concept. Like, yo, dude, I don't want to fight another freezer and you have to fight no mecha cooler cooler. It was a big Getty Star movie. You end kept fighting cool and cooler. My friend was like, yo, dude, this

is the beginning of the game. How can we not Now here's the thing about it. Are we gonna get GT characters in this? Very likely? I don't know. There's not dragon Ball, Zeo, dragon Ball Supers, dragon Ball Sparking Blast you know, yeah, I guess, or Sparking Zero. Yeah. I guess you're right. So I guess they just haven't showcased it. I guess I wouldn't because I guess the whole point is that they would showcase super because that's new and you'd want to know. You'd want to

know that, like Tapo is in there and all that stuff. But I don't care about Topo, honestly, I'm being honest. Well, you know what I mean, like just so just to show that like there's it's more recent as opposed to because I remember one of the Boudecai games came out before GT was finished, so like you had like a bunch of yeah, like a bunch of characters. But we came up before we finished GT, so before we were down detail over it. So we saw Mega Centron, we

saw that, we saw the Super saying four forms. Yeah. I was like, who the fuck is this? I was like, who the fuck is this guy? Because in America they kept restarting the series over and over again, so we'd get to a decent place and they'd be like, oh, I just saw Super seventeen. Who's this Dragon guy? Yea, what's

going on here? You know? I'm I'm really really really excited. Like this is exactly the kind of wholesome like thing that I think I need right now in video games where it's just like just take me back, let me play through the Dragon Ball story at like an abridged pace, Let me have these fights, let me hear these actors do their thing again. I never

get tired of it, so let me just do it, dude. I played all these games back to back basically, and I played through the same They're gonna go through super Stuff too, super Stuff too, and you're gonna if they're gonna find love for the super Stuff playing it, you know, like, you know what, I actually kind of like super I enjoyed. I enjoyed playing this stuff as ultra instance, that alter inesting fight was kind of sick, you know what I really think about it? Playing that that's

pretty I mean that that is what happened with me with Ze. I mean like I didn't know what literally, I just I just didn't know what what dragon ball Z was like. I played Boudokay at a friend's house and he was like and he was like, I remember it was my friend Michael, and I was like over, I was like, oh, this is kind of crazy. I was like, yeah, it's based on a show,

and it was like a show. And I basically like played through the entire story through the game before I even saw the show, and I loved it. But it's a dragon ball, man, Yeah, a dragon ball anyway, Uh do we have Actually, yeah, this question would make more sense if Derek was here because's very, very music heavy. So we're gonna save this for Derek. When he gets back from his abduction. Uh next time,

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dragon ball shirt. Actually, like I actually think, like ironically, like that would serve you so much better than just wearing like a bulletproof vest or like armor or anything like you would you would it would be like it would be like he's just wearing a dragon ball shirt. Like that's say you're about to get killed and you're like and they're like, no, no, no, it has that's the thing. It's like it has to be on the

outside you gotta. It has to be the first thing. That it has to be the layer one of you, of your clothing, of your person, because because you don't want any kind of miscommunication. I mean, look, I can't prove this for sure, but I have never seen a video of cartels or otherwise dispatching of people in dragon Ball shirts. It happens to be everybody who's dispatched isn't wearing a dragon Ball shirt. So I don't know,

man, I think there's a there's validity to this strategy. I think if you're gonna go to Mexico, trust me, trust me, wear a shirt with Goku on it. I I'm not even joking. I think you'll have a noticeably work like a noticeably better time. If you could peer into a different reality where you did the same trip, but you wore a shirt that wasn't dragon Ball oriented, you would leave and come home in a far worse scenario, Like you would come home with like something missing in Mexico.

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